Chat Highlights From 10/26/2011

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[06:15 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:15 am] Kris : HDB, DTE, BXS, ONXX, PNRA and HGSI on the short side.
[06:15 am] Kris : Today I’m watching KFT, HSY, GSK, QCOR, FFIV and AMZN on the long side.
[06:22 am] Brent : good morning
[06:27 am] Kris : 3 minutes, Time To Rock!
[06:27 am] Kris : Let’s make some money!
[06:30 am] Kris : AMZN long small piece
[06:30 am] Kris : FFIV long
[06:30 am] Kris : HGSI short
[06:31 am] Kris : NFLX short
[06:31 am] Kris : out half FFIV long
[06:32 am] Kris : out half AMZN long
[06:32 am] Kris : out half NFLX short
[06:32 am] Mitch : watching BRCM for short
[06:33 am] Kris : BRCM running off the open
[06:33 am] Kris : could setup for a good short soon
[06:33 am] Kris : out another 1/4 FFIV long
[06:33 am] Mitch : watching for long entry on GMCR
[06:34 am] Kris : AMT short half
[06:34 am] Kris : out another 1/4 NFLX short
[06:34 am] Kris : TMO short half
[06:34 am] Mitch : watching for short on top of bounce with HES
[06:34 am] Mitch : watching TEVA for short
[06:35 am] Kris : watching GMCR for a short, not going to enter yet, will wait for a bounce off support here and then a break to new lod.
[06:35 am] Mitch : monitoring WAG for bottom
[06:36 am] Kris : markets still not decided on direction
[06:36 am] Kris : will look to take CRUS long on a pullback
[06:36 am] Mitch : consider covering short on 1st helping here on TEVA short
[06:36 am] Mitch : cover 1st helping short on BRCM
[06:36 am] Mitch : double top on GLW for short
[06:37 am] Kris : FFIV looking strong, still holding 1/4
[06:37 am] Kris : GMCR short half
[06:37 am] Kris : had no bounce at support
[06:37 am] Mitch : the lower GMCR drops, the better the long bounce will be,
[06:38 am] Kris : looking for new lod in TMO on second half
[06:38 am] Kris : out half HGSI short
[06:38 am] Kris : out half ONXX short
[06:38 am] Kris : out half TMO short
[06:38 am] Mitch : watch ITRI for short, let it run
[06:39 am] Kris : FFIV new hod[06:39 am] Kris : out half GMCR short
[06:40 am] Kris : ONXX new lows
[06:40 am] Kris : starting to watch TNA for a long soon.
[06:40 am] Kris : who’s your daddy
[06:41 am] Kris : oh mama
[06:41 am] Kris : out all GMCR short
[06:41 am] Kris : out another 1/4 ONXX short
[06:41 am] Kris : starting to look for a GMCR long soon
[06:42 am] Kris : FFIV holding up, acting like it could be trendy today
[06:43 am] Kris : BXP long
[06:43 am] Kris : FSLR long half
[06:43 am] Kris : TTM long half
[06:44 am] Kris : out half FSLR long
[06:44 am] Kris : VLO long half
[06:44 am] Mitch : lost patience with GLW short
[06:44 am] Mitch : watching PKI for long entry
[06:45 am] Mitch : bottom in GMCR
[06:46 am] Kris : if we get a weak bounce and a break to new lows look for more shorts and be patient with any open shorts you might have
[06:46 am] Kris : SPY trying to put in a bottom here, see if it can test the hod on this move.
[06:46 am] Mitch : ITRI should be stopped on new high like this
[06:47 am] Kris : getting some play
[06:47 am] Kris : looking for another short in ONXX
[06:47 am] Mitch : watch SINA for long
[06:47 am] Mitch : watch SINA, looking like GMCR,
[06:49 am] Mitch : no sell signal yet on GMCR
[06:49 am] Mitch : prepare to sell 1/3rd of GMCR long soon though in your order screen
[06:50 am] Mitch : consider selling 2nd third of GMCR long on a quick bounce, 62.70?
[06:51 am] Mitch : apkt[06:51 am] Mitch : sorry, wrong window
[06:51 am] Mitch : TSS shortable here soon
[06:52 am] Mitch : GMCR still looks good to hold remaining long,
[06:52 am] Mitch : ITRI turning over
[06:52 am] Mitch : SINA moving up
[06:54 am] Mitch : PKI moving up, late to enter long
[06:54 am] Mitch : TSS a little hot
[06:56 am] Brent : watching PFCB for a bounce
[06:56 am] Mitch : consider selling remaining GMCR soon
[06:56 am] Mitch : watching HGSI for bounce, requires more precision, wait for bottom, keep smaller position
[06:57 am] Mitch : forget HGSI long idea, other ideas better
[07:01 am] Mitch : monitoring APKT for long,
[07:01 am] Mitch : watching TEVA for short here
[07:03 am] Mitch : or with SINA long and short
[07:03 am] Mitch : tell me you guys got the short on top of GMCR bounce
[07:05 am] Mitch : watching for 2nd short on HES
[07:06 am] Mitch : DPS moving up, usually slower mover
[07:08 am] Mitch : anyone hanging short with TSS?
[07:09 am] Mitch : let’s see if GMCR makes new low, doubtful makes lower low so prepare to cover most of GMCR short
[07:12 am] Mitch : cover GMCR, bouncing
[07:12 am] Mitch : SINA alert
[07:14 am] Mitch : maybe to 78 next 24 hours or so
[07:14 am] Mitch : you guys look at the SINA daily chart and it tells me there is a long ways to drop
[07:16 am] Mitch : PFCB, Chinese food bouncing
[07:17 am] Mitch : stay focused, we still got another cycle of ideas to process
[07:19 am] Mitch : monitoring HES for another short helping,
[07:20 am] Mitch : go light on HES until you know it does not make new high
[07:21 am] Mitch : still watching SINA for long attempt
[07:21 am] Mitch : wait to see if HES breaks into new highs
[07:21 am] Mitch : wait to see if HES breaks into new highs looks like it will
[07:22 am] Mitch : worth small short on HES
[07:25 am] Mitch : earliest sell signal on Chinese food, PFCB
[07:25 am] Mitch : projector not working again
[07:26 am] Mitch : looking for around 58.25 on HES this time
[07:33 am] Kris : MON short under 72.78
[07:33 am] Kris : SPY new lod[07:33 am] Mitch : curious if anyone went short TSS
[07:33 am] Mitch : TSS may not look like much but over 2% short so far
[07:34 am] Mitch : just let HES drip, drip, drip and see how far down she goes
[07:42 am] Brent : SPY new lod[07:44 am] Mitch : no bounce in SINA yet
[07:49 am] Kris : MON short half
[07:54 am] Mitch : ITRI finally worked
[07:55 am] Mitch : anyone stay with ITRI short?
[07:57 am] Mitch : if you are short ITRI, probably cover most of it here and look for 2nd helping short later on
[07:58 am] Mitch : ITRI is tradable on long side for scalp here too
[07:58 am] Mitch : so I wouldn’t expect as reliable of a bounce on a chart like TSS, even though it looks like same pattern
[07:58 am] Mitch : the difference between the ITRI and TSS chart is TSS has lower volume, not as active
[07:59 am] Kris : TNA long half
[08:03 am] Kris : out half TNA long
[08:04 am] Kris : gonna sit on this last small piece
[08:06 am] Mitch : oh poop, i missed SODA long, staff posted that to me before first bottom. but look for short helping again at top of this bounce, same routine
[08:13 am] Kris : we should get a pullback soon in the SPY, see if we can make a higher low off the lod and form a trendline of support.
[08:17 am] Mitch : monitor HES for 3rd helping short on top of this bounce, preferably over 58.80
[08:18 am] Mitch : also missed INTU bounce but monitoring for top, ideally over 52.70
[08:20 am] Kris : yes pow[08:20 am] Mitch : also missed VRTX bounce long but now watching for short entry.
[08:21 am] Kris : thanks shawnt4
[08:24 am] Mitch : anyone shorted SODA?
[08:25 am] Mitch : come on guys, what do you want us to do, trade for you? lol[08:26 am] Mitch : not expecting SODA to make new lows but good money either way
[08:27 am] Mitch : let’s see if SODA goes to new low, easily could on that daily chart
[08:28 am] Mitch : something you have to watch out for is the scaling on the right or left side of your chart. SODA may not look like good money but its already moved down 70 cents on the last short and that’s over 2% profit already. yet the scaling makes it look like a wimpy trade idea
[08:35 am] Mitch : ok ITRI short is our next target, no hurry, try for 36.50 area
[08:36 am] Kris : out all TNA long
[08:38 am] Mitch : SODA approaching new lows
[08:40 am] Mitch : new low on SODA, looking for more downside now
[08:47 am] Mitch : ITRI getting interesting soon for short
[08:50 am] Mitch : looking for around $35.50 for ITRI short
[09:03 am] Kris : SPY consolidating under resistance line, look for a breakout long soon.
[09:08 am] Mitch : watching VRTX for a short, maybe 42.10 area, want to see if new highs over 42.25 area first though
[09:18 am] Mitch : probably good time to cover most of ITRI short here
[09:55 am] Brent : I would say no victor51, VRTX made higher highs
[10:26 am] Brent : SPY at trendline resistance
[10:45 am] Brent : good eye monster
[10:45 am] Brent : IDCC alert
[11:38 am] Brent : SPY looking to test hod[11:39 am] Kris : break time, be back in about 30
[12:31 pm] Brent : SPY new hod[12:58 pm] Brent : 3 min left, if you are in any trades
[12:58 pm] Brent : 2 min
[01:00 pm] Kris : great job today everyone. have a good night and I’ll see you all tomorrow.
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a great night, see you all in the morning
[06:05 am] joeytsa : durable goods ticked down 1 notch, new home sales at 10amest, crude inventories 10:30 est[06:07 am] jewels0 : Hey Joey, thank you for all of the info you pass on to us here. I really appreciate it.
[06:07 am] jewels0 : and to all those who do
[06:08 am] joeytsa : i just grab headlines…rusty is the real news breaker
[06:09 am] joeytsa : both BIIB and ONXX had decent phase3 results…both gapping up
[06:10 am] eyes-inthenow : LNG up big time any thoughts Joey
[06:12 am] joeytsa : gap ups ONXX,QCOR,PNRA,BIIB,FSLR,FFIV
[06:12 am] joeytsa : gap down: AMZN,HGSI,CHRW,BRCM
[06:18 am] lightning : LNG is a huge gap (75%) up this morning
[06:19 am] joeytsa : yeah LNG signed a deal to export
[06:19 am] joeytsa : also a sale/purchase agreement with BG
[06:20 am] joeytsa : “deal could reap $410M/r” ceo remarks
[06:20 am] lightning : guess it is best to let that one go and focus on others
[06:21 am] eyes-inthenow : thanks for info i am out +18
[06:26 am] pmarvel : Yesterday I tried to cover my FSLR short 10 minutes before close but it didn’t go even in market price. Is it usual in live trading?
[06:27 am] trvlntrdr : call your broker
[06:32 am] joeytsa : BRCM closed gap and more
[06:32 am] doji : S LNG from the open
[06:34 am] joeytsa : PNRA nice run up..look to see if it turns
[06:34 am] doji : all out LNG…+ 52c
[06:35 am] joeytsa : GMCR closed gap…looking for a bottom
[06:35 am] doji : TZA L
[06:36 am] doji : 33.29
[06:36 am] joeytsa : german vote 503 for, 89 against
[06:36 am] doji : Good for my TZA
[06:36 am] joeytsa : nice BRCM call Mitch !!!
[06:37 am] doji : all out TZA 33.75… 45c
[06:38 am] joeytsa : watching PNRA to see if it holds support or not
[06:40 am] joeytsa : PNRA turned
[06:40 am] joeytsa : trail it down
[06:41 am] joeytsa : BIIB fell right along ONXX
[06:41 am] doji : FSLR
[06:42 am] doji : GMCR still dropping, weak vs SPY
[06:43 am] shark : AMZN new lod[06:43 am] doji : FSLR very strong today
[06:43 am] joeytsa : lowering stop on PNRA
[06:46 am] doji : GMCR L
[06:46 am] skydiver : L GMCR 60.01
[06:46 am] joeytsa : left a ton of $$ on the table with GMCR
[06:47 am] eyes-inthenow : S GLW 14.64 stopped out 14.84
[06:47 am] joeytsa : made ok $$, just left a ton…cookie cutter approach
[06:48 am] skydiver : L GMCR 60.01 – out 1/2 61.87
[06:48 am] joeytsa : ANF weak
[06:48 am] doji : 1/2 out GMCR 62.32
[06:49 am] doji : 1/4 out GMCR 63.01
[06:49 am] skydiver : L GMCR 61.51
[06:49 am] doji : trailing last 1/4 GMCR
[06:50 am] doji : again skydiver?
[06:50 am] doji : all out GMCR
[06:50 am] skydiver : sorry guys – my computer froze up funny – I’m in GMCR at 61.51
[06:50 am] doji : SPY lod[06:50 am] skydiver : out GMCR 62.67
[06:51 am] trvlntrdr : nflx near lod[06:51 am] joeytsa : SINA having a rough day
[06:54 am] doji : stopped in TSS
[06:54 am] joeytsa : ATI big spike
[06:57 am] skydiver : Thanks for GMCR – great call — although I panicked a bit when my computer went weird
[06:58 am] joeytsa : V pattern beauty on GMCR
[06:58 am] sonorant : I missed GMCR — didn’t get filled at the bottom, so let it go. Did get AMZN long at open.
[06:58 am] joeytsa : i missed the long also sonorant..eyes on other stuff
[06:59 am] joeytsa : PNRA still falling
[06:59 am] shark : DECK down,
[07:00 am] skydiver : New home sales were above expectations
[07:00 am] joeytsa : got 3 on PNRA, missed the last 4
[07:00 am] rusty : U.S. SEPT. NEW-HOME SALES RISE 5.7% TO 313,000 ANNUAL RATE
[07:01 am] joeytsa : ANF with the fleas
[07:02 am] apple : thx for PNRA joey
[07:02 am] shark : GMCR -round #2 down
[07:03 am] apple : yes MK
[07:03 am] trvlntrdr : was too scared too
[07:03 am] edgarg : got it mitch – gmcr[07:04 am] anthonyb : I did! short GMCR
[07:04 am] trvlntrdr : I did get the sina long and then out on time
[07:04 am] Mitch : no fear trv[07:04 am] shark : GMCR s 63.01
[07:04 am] skydiver : I missed it – was sleeping at the wheel
[07:04 am] skydiver : Good job guys on GMCR
[07:04 am] sonorant : I hesitated
[07:04 am] storage : got the long sina[07:04 am] derns : no GMCR shares available for short..but got the long1
[07:04 am] observer : Thx, Mitch, SINA L86.79 out 87.49
[07:04 am] truck : All over GMCR,,MK !! Thanks
[07:05 am] sonorant : yes, I got the long on SINA too storage
[07:05 am] joeytsa : VMW lod[07:05 am] observer : Thx, Kris BXP L 92.35 out92.62
[07:05 am] truck : Brent,,,,Still watching PFCB ?
[07:05 am] joeytsa : slowly trending down
[07:06 am] storage : sina l 86.60 out 87.58
[07:06 am] joeytsa : market trending down since just b4 the home sales report
[07:06 am] anthonyb : maybe another try at ITRI?
[07:07 am] storage : Thanks just trying to make a couple good trades a day
[07:07 am] truck : VMW
[07:07 am] joeytsa : that’s all you need…keep it up
[07:07 am] skydiver : yes – great job storage
[07:08 am] shark : GMCR still beautiful short
[07:08 am] joeytsa : closed VMW actually
[07:08 am] anthonyb : yes short TSS 20.20
[07:08 am] doji : I shorted again and already close at 19.93 Mitch
[07:09 am] eyes-inthenow : i am
[07:09 am] doji : flat with TSS, recovered my loss!
[07:09 am] khall : gmcr is one of those that the price on IB does not match price on Ninja with kinetick – frustrating
[07:10 am] joeytsa : GMCR with 3 nice trades so far on it
[07:10 am] ronfrac : short gmcr 62.79
[07:10 am] skydiver : great job ronfrac on s gmcr[07:11 am] dano : had a nice tza scalp…got out a little early, but finally a win nonetheless
[07:11 am] joeytsa : bookem dano !!!
[07:11 am] lightning : me too ronfrac, but I’ve already covered 3/4. Still holding 1/4 GMCR short
[07:12 am] joeytsa : SINA is ugly
[07:12 am] ronfrac : Was long GRCR 61.82 sold 62.4,63.14,62.70
[07:12 am] pmarvel : SINA
[07:12 am] Mitch : nice ron[07:13 am] Mitch : that was GMCR? ron[07:13 am] apple : good job ron[07:13 am] ronfrac : covered GMCR 62.32,62.11,61.03
[07:14 am] Mitch : you are getting the hang of it ron[07:14 am] joeytsa : great trading ron 🙂
[07:14 am] ronfrac : This was in cash acct not paper trading. May quit while I’m ahead
[07:14 am] observer : L APKT 30.40
[07:15 am] eyes-inthenow : I s ITRI BOTH TIME AND STOPED OUT
[07:15 am] candelas : i longed GMCR 2nd time got 1%
[07:15 am] observer : good trade Candelas
[07:15 am] doji : TZA crazy
[07:15 am] apple : there goes SPY
[07:15 am] chinhngo : i long sina at 86.40 underwater now please advice what is stop
[07:15 am] candelas : was not looking for much on that bounce
[07:16 am] ronfrac : Watching ovti for bottom
[07:16 am] Mitch : the general rule chichingo is when SINA made new low around 85.15
[07:16 am] Mitch : was your stop
[07:16 am] sonorant : thanks for posting candelas, I looked at it, and didn’t take it, but good to know your strategy on it.
[07:16 am] khall : had a few great trades this am – took Lisa’s advice from yesterday and slowed it down
[07:16 am] anthonyb : Joey, I know it doesn’t come close to your ES trade yesterday, but I just made 6.25 pts. on my ES short
[07:16 am] khall : got 8% on HGSI short!
[07:17 am] Mitch : nice hall
[07:17 am] anthonyb : makes up for my loss in ITRI
[07:17 am] joeytsa : khall…very nice
[07:17 am] apple : good one khall[07:17 am] doji : Watching TNA
[07:18 am] doji : TNA L 42.97, tight stop
[07:18 am] candelas : for Sonorant entry 60.79 @ 10:12est exit 61.33 @ 10:14
[07:18 am] shark : GMCR s 63.01 out at 61.33
[07:19 am] apple : good one shark
[07:19 am] doji : TNA moved stop above breakeven
[07:19 am] skydiver : great job shark
[07:19 am] shark : thx, apple. GREAT team effort here! 🙂
[07:19 am] joeytsa : 5/6 on stocks…only loss was $1k on FSLR…good morning overall
[07:19 am] lightning : covered rest of GMCR here.
[07:20 am] doji : all out TNA drop in the buck
[07:20 am] doji : 21c
[07:20 am] candelas : u get that Sonorant
[07:21 am] sonorant : get what? I’ve done SINA, AMZN, and ONXX
[07:21 am] candelas : posted my entry/exit for you
[07:21 am] candelas : gmcr[07:22 am] skydiver : watching HES
[07:22 am] rusty : SODA radar
[07:22 am] eyes-inthenow : Kris do you know were global settings are I tried to sell 1000 shares and it said max 500
[07:23 am] sonorant : candles, yes, see it — thanks, it helps
[07:23 am] joeytsa : BIDU using the prv cl as a magnet
[07:23 am] anthonyb : I have the same issue eyes.
[07:23 am] mhaus : Eyes, that would be in your broker application settings
[07:24 am] anthonyb : with IB mhaus?
[07:24 am] anthonyb : or is that in Ninja?
[07:24 am] trvlntrdr : I think it is in IB/ TWS
[07:24 am] mhaus : yes, I am with IB and Ninja
[07:25 am] eyes-inthenow : so where do i go
[07:25 am] anthonyb : do you change settings in Ninja or IB
[07:25 am] trvlntrdr : IB
[07:25 am] pow : Mitch, I think your screen is frozen
[07:25 am] truck : out half PFCB
[07:26 am] pow : GMCR testing double bottom
[07:26 am] candelas : great call Hes[07:26 am] skydiver : S HES 59.01
[07:26 am] trvlntrdr : anthonyb go to TWS– configure–presets–stocks–precautionary
[07:27 am] truck : out half VMW
[07:27 am] anthonyb : thanks trvlntrdr[07:27 am] trvlntrdr : no prob[07:27 am] scalpman : out 3/5 PFCB L
[07:28 am] truck : out PFCB
[07:29 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 HES
[07:29 am] truck : out VMW
[07:29 am] observer : Stopped APKT
[07:31 am] anthonyb : gosh, I really mismanaged my ITRI short
[07:31 am] trvlntrdr : what do you think about long in SINA now Mitch
[07:31 am] anthonyb : I payed the stupid tax
[07:32 am] pow : LNG moving down
[07:32 am] trvlntrdr : never mind about Sina[07:32 am] trvlntrdr : can’t be trusted
[07:33 am] eyes-inthenow : I did mitch still in it
[07:33 am] khall : yes I’m short tss[07:33 am] anthonyb : I am still in1/2 short TSS
[07:33 am] neuronx : TSS short 19.94
[07:33 am] victor51 : Mitch, good call on Hes short
[07:34 am] anthonyb : Short 300@ 20.20. 1/2 left
[07:34 am] anthonyb : The slow sinkers are my favorites
[07:35 am] anthonyb : Mitch has transformed me as a trader
[07:36 am] anthonyb : I used to think he was nuts, with all this fading these big moves and such. Now, I see it…
[07:36 am] rusty : NFLX might be highlighted on CNBC at noon
[07:38 am] sonorant : SINA long?
[07:39 am] ben4givn : TSS S @ 20.13 out at 19.70 for 2%. Thanks Mitch
[07:40 am] skydiver : agn[07:40 am] anthonyb : guilty I guess. But I’m a better trader because of him and kris and brent[07:41 am] eyes-inthenow : S TSS 20.11 out Half 19.92 1/4 19.97 1 /4 19.69
[07:42 am] anthonyb : nice one eyes
[07:42 am] eyes-inthenow : got really hurt on Itri thou
[07:42 am] anthonyb : I still have 150 shares short from 20.20
[07:43 am] anthonyb : Yeah tell me about it ITRI took most of my gains today. My mistake
[07:44 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 Sina L from 81.92
[07:44 am] bandit : amzn dropped like a rock this morning
[07:44 am] eyes-inthenow : ahead 90 on TSS down 400 Itri go figure
[07:44 am] scalpman : Stop below 82
[07:45 am] anthonyb : yeah, I made a big position size error on ITRI. was too proud to just reduce at a small loss
[07:45 am] scalpman : Stopped on 2nd half of Sina—smaller profit.
[07:45 am] anthonyb : That won’t happen again
[07:46 am] trvlntrdr : I guess the market didn’t like what is happening in europe– look at the EUR/USD
[07:46 am] eyes-inthenow : Same here I tried it two times
[07:46 am] anthonyb : me too lol[07:46 am] rusty : After a very weak day and closing on low, gap ups have a very high chance of fading.
[07:47 am] truck : Brent,,,,are you considering SPY,,,or just communicating ?
[07:47 am] pow : GMCR breakig to new lows
[07:47 am] eyes-inthenow : Joey look at LNG now
[07:47 am] eyes-inthenow : and to think i got out
[07:47 am] Brent : just communicating truck. I don’t trade the SPY, just watch it
[07:48 am] pow : GMCR new lod[07:49 am] truck : out 3/4 GMCR
[07:49 am] candelas : $tick hit -1169
[07:50 am] anthonyb : eyes look at ITRI now. WE should have tried for a third lol[07:50 am] doji : TZA should have been a good long today… mishandled
[07:50 am] candelas : $tick hit -1312
[07:51 am] truck : Is there another long on GMCR ?
[07:52 am] candelas : $tick trying to get positive -341
[07:52 am] anthonyb : Gosh I wish I could stay longer. I have to leave.
[07:52 am] dano : got a successful 2nd helping from tza[07:52 am] anthonyb : book em Dano!
[07:53 am] dano : …nerves are tested
[07:53 am] dano : …after the spectacular beat down I’ve experienced…LOL
[07:53 am] truck : Apple,,,how many times have you traded GMCR today ?
[07:54 am] eyes-inthenow : Ya That’s the problem then were chasseing it
[07:54 am] rusty : CHRW radar
[07:54 am] rusty : falling below 50dma on daily as well
[07:55 am] anthonyb : without me ITRI lol[07:55 am] pow : No too late for ITRI
[07:56 am] pmarvel : What happened to SPY?
[07:56 am] chinhngo : yes just short at 34.81
[07:56 am] chinhngo : sina is bounced now?
[07:58 am] candelas : $tick back in positive
[07:59 am] rusty : HGSI worth putting on low level radar
[07:59 am] rusty : based on daily chart
[08:02 am] candelas : $tick plus 200
[08:02 am] Kris : let me know when it hits +1001
[08:02 am] candelas : will do
[08:03 am] candelas : market internals (breadth)
[08:03 am] truck : out half TNA
[08:03 am] candelas : measures strength
[08:04 am] scalpman : Out 1/3 TNA from 42.09
[08:04 am] scalpman : 1/2
[08:04 am] dano : roger
[08:04 am] pow : GMCR lod[08:05 am] anthonyb : Hey, I have to thank You guys, (Mitch,Kris,and Brent) my trading since the webinar has improved vastly. I turned 44 yesterday, I think I can retire from shoeing horses next year if I decide to. Thanks guys. I will see all of you tomorrow
[08:06 am] trvlntrdr : good for you Anthonyb!
[08:06 am] Brent : awesome to hear anthonyb, have a good night
[08:06 am] dano : happy bday A…45 here
[08:06 am] truck : out 1/4 TNA 42.70
[08:07 am] anthonyb : Brent, your 3min fade webinar has taught me a set of rules that I can really follow. thanks for that
[08:07 am] truck : stopped last half..TNA[08:08 am] candelas : $tick hit 705 backing off plus 200
[08:08 am] Brent : great job anthony[08:09 am] Mitch : interesting tony,
[08:09 am] anthonyb : what is interesting Mitch?
[08:10 am] Mitch : that you are getting consistent, don’t focus on retiring, focus on consistency and execution, chart recognition
[08:10 am] chinhngo : sina bounced yet?
[08:10 am] Kris : BP won drilling permit in gulf of mexico[08:10 am] Kris : news just came out
[08:11 am] anthonyb : thanks Mitch. If you ever make it to S Florida, I’ll take you fishing on my boat.
[08:12 am] skydiver : skydiver : BP – government just gave them a green light to drill for oil in the gulf –
[08:16 am] jsn13 : Brent can u send me the link for the lesson that Mitch taught few weeks ago? It was a friday…on how to determine where is the turning point for swing ideas?
[08:16 am] skydiver : Been a good day – have to go down to my office – see you all later! Keep making lots of $
[08:17 am] skydiver : kb
[08:18 am] shawnt4 : Nice call on TNA Kris
[08:19 am] pow : Kris still 1/2 long TNA?
[08:19 am] joeytsa : the FXE had a pretty big drop from the open
[08:21 am] candelas : yea nice call Kwwwis[08:23 am] pow : LNG tanking
[08:24 am] candelas : BIIB hod[08:24 am] qwert : yep short soda
[08:24 am] pow : NO but wish I had
[08:25 am] pow : short HES @ 58.42
[08:25 am] truck : yes,,, short SODA
[08:26 am] scalpman : VRTX S 41.96
[08:26 am] victor51 : I am in for HES again but not Soda
[08:26 am] rusty : http://www.usatoday.com/money/markets/story/2 011-10-25/Occupy-app/50903422/1
[08:27 am] rusty : Occupy Wall Street Iphone App
[08:27 am] neuronx : need to get more real estate
[08:27 am] truck : out another 1/4 SODA
[08:28 am] sonorant : tell me about it neuronx[08:28 am] dano : EU news??
[08:29 am] apple : thx MK, it is a good trade
[08:29 am] trvlntrdr : my logic about more monitors is that if you can monitor more stocks, then pick up a trade Idea the monitor might pay for itself in a couple days
[08:29 am] apple : true, trv[08:30 am] shawnt4 : Mitch: I love it when you post a price that you are taking it log or short
[08:30 am] pow : NIce Move down in LNG
[08:30 am] Mitch : right trv, i think i have 15 monitors and 7 computers in this room alone
[08:30 am] shawnt4 : that really makes me feel comfortable with the trade
[08:30 am] rusty : i have 15 monitors and I’ll raise you a monitor
[08:30 am] trvlntrdr : well, I think your trading has paid for that!
[08:31 am] derns : Markets are moving up
[08:31 am] pow : watching for climax sale in LNG
[08:31 am] candelas : eu deal part X
[08:33 am] chinhngo : i set short hes at 58.8 as you advised
[08:34 am] pandozzi : on a nice itri long here
[08:34 am] Mitch : move limit order higher on HES chingo, be able to move orders around easily
[08:35 am] chinhngo : and bought bp long and option call so far so good thank
[08:35 am] candelas : nice trending stock BIIB
[08:36 am] pandozzi : got a 35.90 stop itri for a quick grand
[08:36 am] rusty : ADP radar….sorry little late….
[08:37 am] sonorant : candles, so BIIB is at high for day, and high for many days. How does this work? Will it be good short when it is so strong?
[08:37 am] dano : had a scotch last eve and wrote up some new rules. traded those rules today and 2 for 2. Shy of my daily goal by 50%, but I think i will bow out, take the win and review. Perhaps a final hour scalp. Any swing thoughts, or do we wait for the close and evaluate market sentiment?
[08:37 am] eyes-inthenow : Ya and I had s 200 Premarket Pow[08:38 am] khall : Lovin me some SODA …
[08:39 am] joeytsa : either way you are 2/2 !!!
[08:39 am] ben4givn : fnsr[08:40 am] khall : you asked me yesterday if I used kinetick with ninja and the answer is yes
[08:40 am] sonorant : I can’t remember the context anymore… lol[08:40 am] khall : VRTX looking like it might turn over …
[08:40 am] dano : if you’d like. Actually these are rules I came up with months ago and thru the course of (over)loading my head with info, I had let them slip my mind.
[08:40 am] Mitch : i forgot who is short SODA
[08:41 am] khall : me
[08:41 am] sonorant : candles, did you see my question about BIIB?
[08:41 am] khall : context was that the price on ninja doesn’t match price on IB
[08:41 am] qwert : short soda 30.00
[08:41 am] candelas : its trending higher so harder to short, plus better opportunities out there
[08:41 am] sonorant : but later today?
[08:41 am] sonorant : or down the road?
[08:41 am] Mitch : ok qwert, how low you think SODA will go?
[08:42 am] doji : Got killed trying to go long with TZA
[08:42 am] qwert : maybe 28- 28.50 area just watching
[08:42 am] candelas : just have to monitor later
[08:43 am] chinhngo : please advice sina[08:44 am] scalpman : SINA L from 82.82
[08:44 am] candelas : plus it is holding a nice trendline upwards Sonorant
[08:44 am] chinhngo : short itri at 36.50 filled
[08:44 am] chinhngo : short hes at 58.85 filled
[08:45 am] dano : sorry to hear doji. TZA was my 2 for the day. Caught two brking resist and road up
[08:45 am] pandozzi : go itri baby new stop at 36.50 for another grand +
[08:45 am] scalpman : HES S @ 58.82
[08:45 am] candelas : we hit 1003 Kris
[08:46 am] scalpman : OUt 1/2 SINA L
[08:46 am] dano : received son. They are really simple and very newbie. You probably already know them, but will send nonetheless.
[08:47 am] trvlntrdr : FFIV still strong
[08:47 am] pow : NIce call on TNA Kris
[08:47 am] scalpman : IRTI S @ 36.46 (got it earlier)
[08:48 am] scalpman : All out SINA on the drop
[08:48 am] pandozzi : I’m on a short now itri what a long ride’
[08:49 am] Mitch : anyone short ITRI, post entry price
[08:49 am] pow : LNG breakout
[08:49 am] pandozzi : 36.39
[08:49 am] trvlntrdr : s itri 36.39
[08:50 am] neuronx : 36.23
[08:50 am] jsn13 : shorted at36.25
[08:50 am] candelas : Soda bottoming
[08:50 am] candelas : or trying
[08:50 am] trvlntrdr : I had to set up a chart in TWS
[08:51 am] apple : S ITRI 36.38
[08:51 am] eyes-inthenow : S ITRI 36.39
[08:52 am] eyes-inthenow : what’s your stop on ITRI
[08:53 am] dano : ok brothers and sisters, looks like I’m gonna take my chump change and exit gracefully. Will look back at my charts and book it…
[08:53 am] eyes-inthenow : S S .29
[08:53 am] Mitch : looks like SODA short is over qwert[08:53 am] rusty : Whitney Tilson supposedly will be on CNBC re NFLX
[08:54 am] khall : well, the SODA was a nice ride
[08:54 am] lightning : Tilson will say what all PMs say when they were wrong: We were just early.
[08:54 am] pmarvel : ITRI going up?
[08:54 am] qwert : yep covered soda at 28.92 awesome call thanks
[08:56 am] eyes-inthenow : Mitch what’s a good Stop ITRI I S 36.29
[08:57 am] rusty : ADP bounce
[08:58 am] pow : consider LNG as long play. they received 8 billion contract to deliver natural solid gas overseas. GLNG are the tankers that carries this gas. with the 1000 point swings GLNG traded between 28 and 38.
[08:58 am] rusty : es[09:00 am] rusty : AVX radar
[09:00 am] rusty : low volume careful
[09:00 am] scalpman : OUt 1/2 ITRI S
[09:00 am] candelas : GMCR lod[09:01 am] eyes-inthenow : out 1/2 1% ITRI
[09:01 am] apple : out 1/4 ITRI
[09:04 am] trvlntrdr : except itri[09:04 am] candelas : gmcr get fleabag award today
[09:04 am] scalpman : OUt HES S small profit…
[09:05 am] shawnt4 : Just tell me when Kris:)
[09:05 am] scalpman : ITRI…behaving…
[09:05 am] candelas : Sonorant did u keep an eye on BIIB
[09:05 am] joeytsa : even more so than AMZN 🙂
[09:06 am] candelas : maybe a tied
[09:06 am] joeytsa : BIIB has been interesting today
[09:06 am] candelas : had on screen and did not trade onc[09:07 am] scalpman : Moving stop to 36.19 ITRI
[09:07 am] joeytsa : i had BIIB on my list, ended up playing the ONXX gap instead..both worked
[09:07 am] eyes-inthenow : QCOR
[09:08 am] candelas : onxx was a great trade
[09:08 am] joeytsa : BIIB is the better money mover today
[09:08 am] joeytsa : yeah i got 2 on that one
[09:08 am] candelas : it made u blush
[09:08 am] joeytsa : yeah made up for the loss on FSLR out of the gate
[09:08 am] Kris : it burned bright and fast
[09:09 am] eyes-inthenow : Out 1/4 35.56
[09:09 am] pandozzi : coverd half 35.70
[09:10 am] Kris : ACOM reports after the close today
[09:10 am] pandozzi : other half goes at 35.89 stop
[09:10 am] candelas : gmcr more and more selling
[09:11 am] pmarvel : Any IRTI buy signal yet?
[09:11 am] joeytsa : real glad i covered at 64 doh[09:11 am] scalpman : OUt another 1/4 ITRI S @ 35.65 (great call mitch)
[09:12 am] joeytsa : at least grapped a couple 50cent drops after
[09:12 am] pandozzi : thyx mitch great trades
[09:12 am] candelas : made some nice cheese off gmcr[09:13 am] joeytsa : CHRW been weak too
[09:13 am] Mitch : ok good scalpman, id let ITRI drop more
[09:13 am] monster : gmcr[09:13 am] pandozzi : changed stop to 35.68 itri[09:14 am] pandozzi : gotta take off for a couple hours thanks guys made 4 grand this morning.later traders
[09:14 am] Mitch : nice pandozzi, hang on to p0rofits today ok?
[09:15 am] Brent : good job pandozzi[09:15 am] Kris : good job pandozzi, enjoy the rest of your day
[09:15 am] scalpman : All out ITRI @ 35.59
[09:15 am] Mitch : when you have a good day like that, you want to think in terms of remaining trades today are all good, high odds
[09:15 am] joeytsa : don’t forget Mitch’s rule #16 !!!!
[09:15 am] pow : NFLX short squeeze in process
[09:16 am] Mitch : hey pandozzi, it’s ok to be in the 1% here, not redistribute it to the lazy, un motivated, complaining, unintelligent protestors
[09:16 am] eyes-inthenow : Kris Can I talk to you latter on today
[09:16 am] jewels0 : Took GMCR long at 56.80
[09:17 am] scalpman : Time to go 7 for 9 solid….
[09:17 am] scalpman : bye JoeyTSA, Scalpman has left the building!
[09:18 am] candelas : gmcr/soda bouncing
[09:18 am] candelas : too late for entries though
[09:18 am] apple : out another 1/4 ITRI
[09:18 am] candelas : if ur not already long
[09:22 am] rusty : CHENIERE TO ANNOUNCE NEW U.S. LNG EXPORT DEAL WITHIN WEEKS
[09:22 am] rusty : LNG ALERT
[09:22 am] jewels0 : All out GMCR on the bounce. I needed it. I’ve had a rough day of trading today.
[09:22 am] pow : LNG moving up
[09:22 am] joeytsa : they just announced one earlier also
[09:23 am] pandozzi : thanks and good advice mitch. learning everyday see ya guys
[09:24 am] joeytsa : rusty: i think that was just an update from the original deal
[09:24 am] shawnt4 : gmcr moving up
[09:24 am] joeytsa : maybe they just needed to grease the wheel
[09:27 am] monster : crm[09:27 am] joeytsa : CRM
[09:27 am] rusty : Tilson says CRM the one to blow up
[09:27 am] rusty : the next one
[09:29 am] shawnt4 : Are we long CRM
[09:29 am] eyes-inthenow : Stopped Last 35.73 ITRI
[09:30 am] joeytsa : not me shawn[09:31 am] joeytsa : doesn’t mean it won’t run though
[09:31 am] eyes-inthenow : STX
[09:31 am] sonorant : long ITI $35.44, out 1/3 at .20, out 1/3 at .40 holding remaining 1/3
[09:32 am] sonorant : missed the BIIB short — I sat there and watched it turn, and didn’t have the nerve to take it because it had been so strong.
[09:32 am] joeytsa : sonorant: profit of .20,.40?
[09:32 am] sonorant : yes, joey, on my 10 shares, and 10 shares. 10 shares left.
[09:32 am] joeytsa : nice
[09:33 am] joeytsa : CRM should get interesting
[09:34 am] candelas : it was flashing short me please
[09:34 am] pmarvel : I shorted VRTX @ 42.10 is it good?
[09:34 am] sonorant : what was candles?
[09:34 am] joeytsa : looks like the sheep just got the news on CRM
[09:34 am] rusty : CRM 11% short interest
[09:34 am] candelas : biib when it broke trend
[09:35 am] mh : thinking of shorting SCSS anyone follow this one
[09:35 am] candelas : i missed it, was in soda and gmcr[09:35 am] joeytsa : keep a tight stop pmarvel[09:35 am] sonorant : when do you know that it is safe to short a strong stock like that??
[09:35 am] joeytsa : trailing CRM down
[09:36 am] candelas : would not use word safe, but more of odds in ur favor
[09:36 am] pmarvel : Mitch said VRTX S 42.10
[09:36 am] joeytsa : out half CRM
[09:36 am] sonorant : okay, when do you know the odds are in your favor?
[09:36 am] joeytsa : stopped on last half…will look for more
[09:37 am] shawnt4 : Kris: Are you long SPY
[09:37 am] candelas : on 1min, u had a break of trend, u had bearish engulfing pattern, and doji and sellers picked up 11:45 est[09:37 am] pmarvel : Stochs start pointing down
[09:38 am] sonorant : will look. will you give me your hit on FFIV? very strong today. alert set below $100.75? then perhaps shortable?
[09:38 am] candelas : and if you use stock, im sure they started turning over
[09:39 am] sonorant : if you do what?
[09:39 am] candelas : if you use stochastics meant to say
[09:39 am] joeytsa : CRm up into resistance, lets see what she does
[09:39 am] lightning : NFLX trying to fill the gap here
[09:42 am] candelas : i pass ffiv[09:42 am] sonorant : I pass too right now, but if it headed down would it be good, if not why not? a big run up
[09:43 am] candelas : i pass on the trade all together not enough money for me
[09:43 am] joeytsa : CRM setting up more??
[09:43 am] sonorant : I see the doji candle, and I see increasing volume on sales son BIIB. Thanks.
[09:44 am] eyes-inthenow : ItRI Hit stop and kept going down
[09:45 am] sonorant : okay, thanks, I see the $$ issue on FFIV
[09:45 am] candelas : what about break of trend BIIB
[09:45 am] pow : VRTX turning over
[09:46 am] joeytsa : s CRM 123
[09:47 am] joeytsa : out half
[09:47 am] joeytsa : out rest slight loss
[09:47 am] joeytsa : what a waste of button pushing
[09:48 am] candelas : Sonorant stochastics turned over also
[09:48 am] candelas : speakin of biib[09:51 am] richard : Any guess which way SPY will break?
[09:51 am] trvlntrdr : who thinks SINA consolidating for a move up?
[09:52 am] trvlntrdr : or a move down?
[09:53 am] victor51 : Mitch, Do we have green signal for vrtx short?
[09:56 am] pmarvel : My short on VRTX stopped out Victor
[09:58 am] chinhngo : I SHORT VRTX AT 42.10
[09:58 am] chinhngo : SET BUY COVER STOP AT 42.50
[09:59 am] sonorant : candles, I got up and went to the kitchen to get something to eat — totally missed it!!
[10:01 am] joeytsa : ok CRM got you this time !!!!
[10:01 am] shark : time for some TZA anyone?
[10:02 am] shawnt4 : can somebody teach me how to trade WYNN
[10:02 am] joeytsa : all out CRM !!!!
[10:02 am] candelas : nice trade Joey
[10:03 am] joeytsa : sorry…but that’s a revenge trade haha[10:04 am] joeytsa : something to watch…CRM took about 30 minutes from the big drop, then recovery to the next drop…
[10:04 am] joeytsa : i wonder if this was the time lag for the average person to get news and sell out
[10:04 am] joeytsa : will try to remember on the next big news drop
[10:05 am] apple : good point
[10:05 am] joeytsa : that 1st drop was ALL daytrader action
[10:05 am] apple : 12 o’clock reversal or change
[10:05 am] joeytsa : i wasn’t even looking at the actual time of day either
[10:06 am] joeytsa : probably heard the news while on lunch break..added more fuel maybe
[10:06 am] derns : APKT…3 min fade watch
[10:06 am] apple : right into your pocket
[10:07 am] pow : stx tanking
[10:08 am] joeytsa : CRM lod[10:08 am] shark : CRM lod -sweet joeytsa[10:09 am] joeytsa : CRM played just like NFLX,GMCR recently
[10:09 am] joeytsa : just keep selling those pops
[10:09 am] shark : yup
[10:09 am] shark : workin’
[10:09 am] joeytsa : CMI lod also
[10:09 am] apple : makes it real easy, non?
[10:09 am] joeytsa : why try to fight it
[10:10 am] shark : The TREND is your friend
[10:11 am] joeytsa : just following this one down..not going to give up any nice profit
[10:11 am] apple : it is the only friend you need
[10:11 am] joeytsa : stop set at 121 right now
[10:11 am] candelas : the trend is my friend, the trend is my friend, and so on
[10:11 am] shark : Fist fight in the Parliament today! Cool pix
[10:12 am] shark : So they must be close to a decision…..er…killing each other off
[10:12 am] joeytsa : stopped out
[10:12 am] joeytsa : hhmmm i wonder what my next trade will be 🙂
[10:13 am] pmarvel : Same question from the morning. I can’t buy back my FSLR short yesterday even at market price. Is it usually happens in live trading? I lost nearly 1k for that in paper trade.
[10:13 am] shark : Then it will be “might makes right”
[10:13 am] rusty : EU MINISTERS ALL AGREE TO DINNER MENU; *BN ITALIAN, FRENCH MINISTERS DEADLOCKED ON WINE SELECTION
[10:13 am] victor51 : Thanks everyone on VRTX short. It should work
[10:14 am] victor51 : thankx Brent.
[10:15 am] joeytsa : let’s see how strong this reversal is in CRM …or not 🙂
[10:16 am] trvlntrdr : pmarvel, I frequently see my orders missed in sim trading if it moves fast. but I haven’t seen that in live trading if the order makes it to IB
[10:17 am] lightning : I’m liking the FSLR big move down
[10:17 am] lightning : would like the FSLR move to have more volume though
[10:17 am] joeytsa : yeah light, nice downtrend
[10:19 am] pmarvel : Trvl thnx. I am very scare if it happens in life trading I will lose big.
[10:21 am] trvlntrdr : I suppose it could happen — but then you could discuss it with the broker.
[10:22 am] pmarvel : I see
[10:22 am] trvlntrdr : It isn’t supposed to happen if the order is at the exchange
[10:22 am] pmarvel : OK
[10:22 am] trvlntrdr : you might discuss this with the broker before you live trade
[10:22 am] trvlntrdr : to get the ground rules
[10:24 am] trvlntrdr : but I have seen it a lot on NT sim[10:24 am] joeytsa : CRM getting interesting
[10:25 am] joeytsa : for those without candle timers, you can always use the clock on your platform
[10:26 am] pmarvel : In sim is OK but in real trade will be disaster Trvltrdr[10:27 am] trvlntrdr : well I don’t think it is common but I would check with the IB folks to make sure you understand how they would handle it.
[10:27 am] pmarvel : Thnx alot[10:27 am] trvlntrdr : you know the order on NT changes color once it is accepted at IB?
[10:28 am] trvlntrdr : it changes from yellow to green
[10:28 am] trvlntrdr : on chart trader at least
[10:32 am] pmarvel : No I didn’t
[10:34 am] trvlntrdr : pmarvel maybe the best thing is to trade only small amounts for live trade until you feel better about the system.
[10:34 am] trvlntrdr : just remember even on ib the commissions will eat into you for lots of small trades
[10:35 am] trvlntrdr : Kris can’t you make SINA go up?
[10:37 am] qwert : does anyone know if there are candle timers in esignal[10:40 am] Brent : I don’t think so qwert, you might be able to find one online
[10:43 am] trvlntrdr : you could help me by making SINA go up
[10:43 am] trvlntrdr : I know it is a dog today but at least it can do 1 trick!
[10:44 am] lightning : Qwert, I found this one…check the link to the efs formula down this page: http://forum.esignal.com/showthread.php?s=&am; p;amp;postid=36329#post36329
[10:45 am] monster : idcc[10:46 am] chinhngo : IDCC LONG OR SHORT?
[10:47 am] trvlntrdr : chinhgo we usually cant catch the short
[10:48 am] trvlntrdr : wait for the rebound
[10:48 am] apple : Thx MK, K and B and everyone for a profitable day. All have a super evening.
[10:49 am] Brent : you too apple, see you in the am
[10:50 am] lightning : Qwert, that timer seems to work, it just puts it on the right side of the chart…you need to move the data over a bit to see the countdown timer box
[10:51 am] shawnt4 : Brent when you say spy is at trend line resistance, does that mean to short it
[10:53 am] trvlntrdr : shawnt4 I think Brent and Mitch would say it is just a warning– could reverse or breakout
[10:53 am] duckfan : wow spy market really moving
[10:53 am] candelas : have to head out early today, see every1 in am
[10:53 am] trvlntrdr : if it reverses watch your longs
[10:54 am] Brent : right trvlntrdr[10:55 am] trvlntrdr : now if I can just put knowledge into practice….
[10:56 am] trvlntrdr : monster thanks for IDCC
[10:58 am] rusty : Arrest count: ex-Goldman Sachs directors, 1. Protesters: 2,511
[10:58 am] rusty : seems fair and balanced no?
[10:58 am] lightning : protesters winning!
[10:59 am] trvlntrdr : NFLX hod[11:00 am] trvlntrdr : Kris are you working on getting Sina to go up?
[11:00 am] Kris : yes
[11:01 am] Kris : the SPY is about to break out of this range to the high side again
[11:01 am] Kris : if it can move through the hod it should bring most stocks with her
[11:01 am] trvlntrdr : thanks I will get you a beer if it goes over 83.20
[11:01 am] trvlntrdr : next time I’m in SD
[11:01 am] Kris : you’ll get 83.50
[11:02 am] trvlntrdr : I’m long at 83.20 if you couldn’t guess
[11:06 am] qwert : thanks for the timer lightning had to step out and just got back looks like idcc gave a nice bounce
[11:06 am] pmarvel : Please explain me SPY stochs cross over and point down but price is going up. Why?
[11:06 am] lightning : qwert, I did install the timer and it works fine.
[11:06 am] Kris : momentum oscillator
[11:07 am] trvlntrdr : momentum is not the same as price
[11:07 am] Kris : see how SPY moved up fast
[11:07 am] Kris : then it was choppy trending up over the past 20 minutes or so?
[11:07 am] Kris : that is a slowing of the previous momentum so it oscillates back down
[11:07 am] Kris : that pattern is bullish
[11:07 am] Kris : because you don’t see a pullback in price with the indicator
[11:09 am] pmarvel : In DVDs the stochs cross over and point down signals reversal, right?
[11:09 am] Kris : on extreme price moves
[11:09 am] Kris : you can’t just trade the oscillator
[11:10 am] Kris : you have to include other factors to have a winning reversal system
[11:10 am] pmarvel : Please explain more
[11:10 am] Kris : you could have tried to short it on the turn but when it started going sideways, it’s a red flag caution to get out of your reversal trade cause it’s not acting right.
[11:10 am] Kris : pmarvel, email me
[11:10 am] Kris : [email protected]
[11:10 am] Kris : I’ll send you some notes
[11:12 am] pmarvel : I longed TZA 3 times according to SPY all failed
[11:12 am] derns : Kris or Brent…I’ve been monitoring/trading APKT for a few days…it consistently has erratic changes…can you offer any thots on why this is happening?
[11:13 am] Kris : big selloff on the 21st, held 30 for 3 days with lower highs
[11:14 am] joeytsa : APKT been a dog since may
[11:14 am] Kris : false breakout today, the market held or I think it would have been a nice short under that 30.00
[11:14 am] Kris : see if we get another day or 2 of consolidation and then a break to new low might be worth a short trade.
[11:15 am] derns : Thx Kris and Joeytsa[11:16 am] joeytsa : they also released earning last week…might have added to the volatility
[11:20 am] Kris : this IDCC daily chart is extra juicy
[11:21 am] Kris : if it can lose 43.75 it could really get some acceleration to the down side.
[11:23 am] rusty : PRMW radar
[11:23 am] rusty : may be on CNBC
[11:24 am] rusty : worth watching to see if it gets pumped up
[11:31 am] rusty : Italy Concedes To Full Blown Austerity: To Raise Retirement Age From 65 To 67 By 2026
[11:32 am] trvlntrdr : Kris I will email you– I also wanted to get those notes
[11:34 am] pmarvel : Kris regarding to IDCC if it goes down under 43.75 it will tank further? We should short after or before 43.75?
[11:34 am] pmarvel : Or now?
[11:35 am] khall : okay guys – i’ll see you Friday. At client site tomorrow
[11:35 am] pmarvel : for swing trade
[11:35 am] khall : thanks for a great trading day
[11:36 am] Kris : wait for the break pmarvel.
[11:36 am] Kris : set an alert above the support line to remind you
[11:37 am] Kris : this looks like a good spot to start getting out of that SINA long trvlntrdr[11:37 am] trvlntrdr : I did already.
[11:37 am] Kris : good, just making sure
[11:37 am] trvlntrdr : I took it just before vwap[11:37 am] Kris : have a good night khall. see you tomorrow
[11:38 am] Brent : have a good one khall[11:38 am] trvlntrdr : Khall you owe me one for warning you about NFLX
[11:38 am] trvlntrdr : 🙂
[11:38 am] rusty : FSLR radar
[11:40 am] pmarvel : Kris Thanks. Where is the support line, 43.75?
[11:41 am] trvlntrdr : Mitch do you have a good way of knowing the difference between a short term consolidation and beginning of reversal?
[11:43 am] trvlntrdr : pmarvel– look at the daily chart and see where resistance is on IDCC– that is your alert–just above 43.75
[11:43 am] Brent : $43.80-$44.00 was tested several times going back to Sept 27th on IDCC pmarvel[11:43 am] trvlntrdr : so if it breaks below that– could fall to 35
[11:44 am] pmarvel : Thnx Brent and Trvltrdr[11:44 am] Brent : To me trvlntrdr, consolidation is more often than not a continuation pattern.
[11:44 am] trvlntrdr : I guess I get into the consolidation when I m long and get worried it is going to reverse
[11:44 am] trvlntrdr : so I get out early
[11:45 am] trvlntrdr : Is this an experience thing, or do you just move up stops or is there another way to identify?
[11:46 am] trvlntrdr : I cut myself out early a lot
[11:47 am] Brent : so by then, when you are getting worried, you are already in profit right trvlntrdr?
[11:47 am] trvlntrdr : yes
[11:48 am] trvlntrdr : I cut my winners short
[11:48 am] Brent : what I would do, is take some profits in the consolidation, tighten my stop, and leave a piece for the breakout
[11:48 am] Brent : make sense?
[11:49 am] joeytsa : very good advice Brent
[11:49 am] Brent : maybe hold 1/4 of your position to see if it breaks out
[11:49 am] trvlntrdr : Yes, but frequently my stops get taken out and it then moves way up!
[11:49 am] trvlntrdr : But it is better than a loss, for sure
[11:50 am] trvlntrdr : But I definitely have a pattern of losing more than I win.
[11:50 am] trvlntrdr : even though the trades go my way more than 50%
[11:50 am] Brent : nothing you can do about that except by not having as tight of a stop. If the SPY is going with your trade, then you can be a little looser with your stops, but I would still book some profits if it’s consolidating
[11:51 am] trvlntrdr : yes– I have been doing the 50% off at 1% profit and that seems like a great idea
[11:51 am] Brent : perfect
[11:51 am] trvlntrdr : but it’s the other half that frustrates me.
[11:51 am] Brent : lol[11:52 am] Brent : break the other half into 1/4’s
[11:52 am] trvlntrdr : to see it shoot up 1.50 after stopped out!!
[11:52 am] trvlntrdr : yep, still need to work on order management
[11:53 am] trvlntrdr : that being said I like getting stopped out when it does reverse!!!
[11:53 am] joeytsa : trv: with over 50% winners at least your issue isn’t trade selection
[11:55 am] trvlntrdr : that is where I have been struggling. The longer I hold on to something the more likely it goes to the target I identify
[11:55 am] trvlntrdr : But I get out early!!!
[11:55 am] trvlntrdr : so I have been working on patience with the longer term charts
[11:55 am] trvlntrdr : but still gotta have faith!
[11:56 am] trvlntrdr : I type this all because I know it is a common problem for new day traders
[11:56 am] joeytsa : also keep a list of winners/losers and the amounts on both..get your average
[11:56 am] trvlntrdr : NT does that for me.
[11:56 am] joeytsa : cool
[11:57 am] trvlntrdr : I run about 60% but my losers are too much perpetuating the fear of holding too long
[11:57 am] joeytsa : seems like you know the issue
[11:58 am] joeytsa : you can have 90% winners, but if the 10% losers outweigh the winners..account will drop
[11:58 am] trvlntrdr : I trained as a swing trader for the last 2 years and got pretty good wit targets but the gyrations of intraday trading are frightening
[11:58 am] trvlntrdr : your right Joey
[11:59 am] michael : trv, exact same issue for me. Trying to wait until the 5ma turns against me and is helping with that some
[11:59 am] joeytsa : yeah, intraday things happen lightning fast especially when you are used to things taking a few days to move
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : biggest mistake i see made here, and i am guilty also..is trying to force trades
[12:00 pm] trvlntrdr : I think swing trading is easier to tolerate because you don’t see it constantly
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : swing trading was until recently with the crazy market swings to me
[12:01 pm] trvlntrdr : I agree I wouldn’t hold overnight yet
[12:02 pm] rusty : FSLR lod[12:05 pm] derns : That mistake, Joeytsa, was authored by me…I make it all the time, among many others..trying to maintain patience and discipline
[12:05 pm] joeytsa : you must have plagiarized my book then 🙂
[12:06 pm] joeytsa : even today, i tried to force a trade in CRM…didn’t work for the most part
[12:06 pm] derns : oops…
[12:07 pm] pmarvel : I did swings until last weeks but market suddenly change every day. I lost big.
[12:07 pm] rusty : http://www.thestreet.com/mad-money/index.html Loyal Cramericans[12:08 pm] rusty : input NFLX and look at Cramer recommendations
[12:08 pm] joeytsa : i took a few swing losses in the spring and realized something was changing
[12:08 pm] pmarvel : Market was down when I entered shorts but gap up the next morning.
[12:09 pm] joeytsa : been there b4
[12:09 pm] pmarvel : So I’m very scared to touch swings again
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : Mitch teaches to scale into trades
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : try to get as many factors on your side..when your entry signal hits..dip your toe in
[12:11 pm] Brent : fear sometimes can be a sign your position is too big.
[12:11 pm] joeytsa : agreed Brent…and a stop loss should end any fear
[12:12 pm] trvlntrdr : Brent is absolutely right
[12:12 pm] joeytsa : position size,stop loss all important
[12:12 pm] trvlntrdr : but it is a scary time to be in swings
[12:12 pm] pmarvel : My reference is DSR. I started small according to DSR but 3-4 positions hit me hard.
[12:13 pm] trvlntrdr : i think if we see a spy pullback to about 117 then reversal people will feel better
[12:13 pm] rusty : swings can be very profitable…. might want to re-assess when VIX comes down a bit
[12:13 pm] rusty : and try to avoid earnings if possible
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : on swings…whatever your trade timeframe…also take a look at the next longer time frame trend
[12:14 pm] rusty : MHS alert
[12:15 pm] rusty : MHS couldn’t find a bottom yesterday
[12:15 pm] rusty : now everyone wants it
[12:15 pm] rusty : please shoot me
[12:17 pm] trvlntrdr : actually maybe SPY pullback to 118.5– 38% retracement from high of the market 4 yrs ago
[12:18 pm] trvlntrdr : my mistake– from this summer
[12:21 pm] joeytsa : V nice up move
[12:23 pm] Brent : not today, but V might be a good one to watch for a break over $95
[12:23 pm] joeytsa : i meant from the $91 area
[12:23 pm] joeytsa : has a lot of res at $95 like you said
[12:25 pm] joeytsa : AMZN lod[12:26 pm] rusty : http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297 0204777904576653022926782608.html?mod=markets _newsreel NFLX out earlier
[12:26 pm] eyes-inthenow : VLO
[12:27 pm] joeytsa : NFLX has a little support around 79
[12:27 pm] eyes-inthenow : Brent you think VLO would be a good 3 min fade
[12:29 pm] Brent : I’d like to see it move higher but yes eyes
[12:31 pm] eyes-inthenow : S 25.32
[12:33 pm] eyes-inthenow : Stopped 1%
[12:33 pm] trvlntrdr : market moving against you
[12:33 pm] eyes-inthenow : Goodnight Everyone
[12:33 pm] sonorant : market running again
[12:35 pm] sonorant : Kris, I would also like whatever you are emailing to pmarvel. I will email you.
[12:45 pm] shark : GMCR vol spike -moving up
[12:52 pm] michael : QSII big drop
[12:57 pm] shark : nice one MICHAEL!
[12:58 pm] michael : thanks Shark. Like usual, bailed after getting .50 and left about another .50 on the table
[01:01 pm] shark : Thanks Brent! I lost track of time. That statement could not have come at a better time. 🙂
[01:01 pm] pmarvel : Thanks MK, B, K and all. Good night.
[01:01 pm] sonorant : good night everyone!
[01:02 pm] shark : Thx Michael. Some pocket change for the weekend QSII
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