Chat Highlights From 12/23/2011

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[06:06 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:15 am] Brent : good morning
[06:22 am] Kris : good morning everyone
[06:27 am] Kris : the spy is coming into trendline resistance on the daily, we've had 3+ days on the move up from the lows
[06:28 am] Kris : and we have a small up gap today that could be exhaustive into this overhead trendline resistance
[06:28 am] Kris : I'll be looking a little more to the short side but will stay patient off the open and wait for the selling before I commit
[06:29 am] Kris : if we hold the gap, stay strong we could break through that resistance so stay flexible
[06:30 am] Kris : ULTA short half
[06:31 am] Kris : SFLY moving, not chasing it here
[06:32 am] Kris : DMND short half
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching SFLY for short
[06:33 am] Kris : CRM long half
[06:33 am] Mitch K: soon
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching ONXX for short
[06:34 am] Kris : RMBS moving
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching FSLR for short, late to see
[06:35 am] Kris : missed the short off the open, look for a bounce to short into
[06:35 am] Kris : SPWR filling gap
[06:36 am] Kris : looking to add second half ULTA short soon
[06:36 am] Kris : out half DMND short
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching LULU for top to short
[06:37 am] Kris : looking for 64.00 - 64.20 area to add
[06:39 am] Mitch K: consider reducing LULU short
[06:40 am] Kris : will watch for a possible long in NFLX soon, would like to see a bounce around 72.00 area
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching TRIP to short soon
[06:41 am] Brent : watching UAL for a bounce
[06:41 am] Mitch K: LULU 2nd helping soon
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching RE for top, may take a while
[06:43 am] Mitch K: SFLY finally turning over
[06:45 am] Mitch K: consider covering FSLR if short
[06:47 am] Mitch K: CRM bouncing
[06:50 am] Mitch K: looking for short on FSLR bounce; wouldn't go in full sized short, letting it move up more
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching CHS for top, low priced stock so must start small and build;
[06:54 am] Mitch K: SFLY short over; watch for bounce
[06:54 am] Mitch K: watching GPOR for top
[06:55 am] Brent : careful with UAL if long, not acting well with the bounce in the market
[06:55 am] Mitch K: getting increasing candle size on FSLR, getting close to short
[06:56 am] Mitch K: CRM bounce fizzling out soon
[06:58 am] Mitch K: MOS having 37th buyout rumor
[06:58 am] Mitch K: watching MOS
[06:59 am] Kris : SPY coming into hod resistance
[07:01 am] Mitch K: don't have to get precise on MOS, hard to do with buyout rumors. consider covering half of MOS soon
[07:03 am] Mitch K: be flexible, anything goes
[07:03 am] Mitch K: looking for 34.45 area for covering most of FSLR short
[07:03 am] Mitch K: watching for 2nd helping short in MOS
[07:04 am] Mitch K: hot buyout rumors often make higher highs on 2nd helping, open small shorts, like dipping toe in water expecting it to be cold water
[07:06 am] Mitch K: consider covering most of GPOR short
[07:06 am] Mitch K: then when you are pretty sure that a buyout rumor or any stock isn't going to make new highs, you complete your full short as soon as it turns over, see MOS as example
[07:07 am] Mitch K: watching SINA for top, no hurry
[07:07 am] Mitch K: you guys cover FSLR?
[07:08 am] Mitch K: FSLR over
[07:09 am] Mitch K: looking for MOS to start breaking down a little more on this drop, just hunch
[07:12 am] Mitch K: if my hunches start going bad, you can call me hunchback
[07:14 am] Mitch K: TRIP finally turning over, what a trip
[07:15 am] Mitch K: that was as bad as Rusty's humor,
[07:16 am] Mitch K: newer traders know we tend to post ideas and don't count on us to tell you when to get out, that's your job
[07:16 am] Mitch K: watching CHS for 2nd helping
[07:18 am] Mitch K: LULU finally breaking down, consider covering 1/3rd if short
[07:19 am] Mitch K: no hunchback yet, consider covering 1/3rd if short
[07:19 am] Mitch K: of MOS
[07:20 am] Mitch K: LULU short over, at least 1st helping
[07:33 am] Ed : trend still up Sina so far
[08:23 am] Mitch K: watching for 2nd helping short on LULU
[08:32 am] Kris : FOSL breaking out over resistance
[08:32 am] Kris : out all DMND short
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: not a big one but tradable
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: watching MJN for possible bounce
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: not a big one but tradable
[12:48 pm] Mitch K: there is that MJN bounce I was looking for. Didn't think it would take 48 minutes though, lol[12:49 pm] Mitch K: something is going on with MJN, must be an analyst
[12:50 pm] Mitch K: I would not short MJN
[12:56 pm] Brent : Have a great Christmas everyone, see you Tuesday
[12:57 pm] Ed : have a wonderful weekend and happy holiday
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: Merry Christmas everyone
[06:16 am] Mitch K: lightning is that working yet?
[06:16 am] zentrader : yes lighting - but can ESignal v11 do that with LS?
[06:16 am] Mitch K: LS and esignal linking with charts
[06:16 am] lightning : Yes it is working.
[06:16 am] Mitch K: v 11?
[06:16 am] lightning : I don't know about v11. I run 10.6.something.
[06:16 am] zentrader : on v 11 ?
[06:16 am] Mitch K: ok thanks
[06:16 am] electrader : You can only link one order entry window though
[06:17 am] lightning : that's correct
[06:17 am] electrader : when you try the second one, both link to same charts
[06:17 am] zentrader : yes, 10.6. But we've been waiting 6+ months for bug fixes and they told me they would link by this past august
[06:17 am] Mitch K: right zen, that's what i thought Joey, some sort of bugs remaining in 11
[06:18 am] joeytsa : i might just have to make a switch
[06:18 am] qwert : here's a really cool thing that i was told by esignal you can call once a year and they will give you a free month just charge you i think around 18.00 for data feed
[06:18 am] zentrader : I have it installed on another machine and play from time to time. But has been over a month since I took a look
[06:18 am] Mitch K: anyone trading off the chart with NInja? really going to squeeze more profits out of trading that way, for me
[06:18 am] zentrader : why Mitch? better per share rates?
[06:19 am] lightning : that's what I want in esignal. I can trade off the charts for futures, but not on stocks with Lightspeed[06:19 am] mikewd2 -: Mitch, isn't TS Matrix as good as Ninja?
[06:20 am] mikewd2 -: i guess you're not off the actual chart though
[06:20 am] zentrader : I still use Adriano's Heat Gauge to identify volume acceleration. it's cool. He has a sound in there that even tells you Volume acceleration. I'm going to change to voice to George Carlin or Dennis Hopper or something
[06:20 am] joeytsa : Mitch, i chart trade futures on ninja..love it
[06:21 am] joeytsa : love being able to grab stop loss/profit targets and move them
[06:21 am] zentrader : so I am opening yet another swing trade account with eTrade. for businesses looks cool. you get a credit card, checks, etc[06:21 am] mikewd2 -: that you can do with the Matrix on TS
[06:22 am] zentrader : and I got them down to $3.99 per trade! ha
[06:22 am] zentrader : I will only swing, or long term on those platforms though
[06:23 am] zentrader : I've had a TOS account for over 2 years and have not funded it yet. lol[06:23 am] zentrader : I just use their charts
[06:23 am] Mitch K: i have not used TS Matrix for 5years mike. They haven't done any developing at all and i see Ninja keeps developing. But as i remember, TS Matrix was very good
[06:24 am] Mitch K: hey zentrader, did you call them for reduction in commissions?
[06:24 am] Mitch K: etrade that is?
[06:25 am] zentrader : still my favorite charts are eSignal. There is one VWAP bands chart I like on TOS that I use
[06:25 am] zentrader : coded in that 4GL they use
[06:25 am] zentrader : works great
[06:25 am] Mitch K: hmm good
[06:26 am] joeytsa : gap up: RMBS,AAPL,MNTA,FSLR?
[06:26 am] zentrader : yes, Mitch - I haggled with eTrade until I got it down to $3.99
[06:26 am] zentrader : I keep a bunch of money with them for a SPE IRA account that I swing trade with
[06:27 am] zentrader : SEP IRA that is
[06:27 am] joeytsa : gap down:SFLY,ALLT,..nothing really jumping out
[06:27 am] mikewd2 -: wow, zen nice - i'm at 5.99
[06:28 am] joeytsa : new home sales at 7am pst[06:29 am] joeytsa : makes sense kris[06:29 am] zentrader : problem with SEP - is that you cannot short stocks with that type of account
[06:30 am] zentrader : so just us eon of the others to do that
[06:30 am] zentrader : they have crappy short inventory anyway, but once and while you find something in there that is NOT in LS
[06:31 am] joeytsa : zen: only way around that is to use inverse etfs to play wider
[06:31 am] mikewd2 -: SFLY
[06:33 am] zentrader : s DMND 30.45
[06:33 am] joeytsa : AMZN down
[06:34 am] rusty : FSLR radar
[06:34 am] zentrader : I'm short MJN too
[06:35 am] zentrader : wow out MJN instantly
[06:35 am] zentrader : done with that one
[06:41 am] skydiver : lulu bounced back - another short?
[06:42 am] joeytsa : the ES slowly trending down since 5:30pst
[06:43 am] joeytsa : CRM lod[06:48 am] skydiver : CHS
[06:49 am] joeytsa : CRM coming into an overhead pivot and down trending 15ma
[06:52 am] rusty : DMND lod[06:52 am] apple : nice call on SFLY
[06:56 am] joeytsa : new home sales 4 minutes
[06:57 am] rusty : added to RAYS short
[06:58 am] skydiver : Take over chatter MOS
[06:58 am] pandozzi : no shares available for fslr short
[06:58 am] joeytsa : gotta love schwab huh pandozzi[06:59 am] rusty : FSLR 50% short interest
[07:00 am] joeytsa : new home sales up 1.6%
[07:00 am] joeytsa : who the heck is buying..all i hear is how poor everyone is
[07:01 am] skydiver : I'm short MOS 52.23
[07:02 am] derns : joey..that has been a nagging question in my mind for the past 2 weeks...I really think it has been short covering
[07:02 am] skydiver : covered MOS 52.02
[07:03 am] pandozzi : what happened with that candle on trip
[07:03 am] skydiver : Watching MOS
[07:04 am] joeytsa : new lod on CRM
[07:04 am] rusty : FSLR 22M short/60M float
[07:05 am] joeytsa : time lag play?
[07:05 am] skydiver : gotcha Mitch - thanks again
[07:05 am] rusty : UAL radar
[07:06 am] rusty : keep in mind it's an airline
[07:06 am] skydiver : nice rusty on UAL - and good point on airline
[07:06 am] pandozzi : not too cold mitch[07:07 am] joeytsa : looking for another weak bounce in CRM then lower
[07:07 am] michael : I tried the last CRM down joey but missed by a few cents
[07:08 am] thomasohana : thanks mitch watching sina too
[07:08 am] qwert : yep on fslr thx mitch[07:08 am] joeytsa : that's ok michael..trade idea was correct, so that's a good thing
[07:08 am] jsn13 : Yup...Got .60 from FSLR....
[07:08 am] pandozzi : no shares of first solar short cost me a couple grand thx schwab[07:08 am] electrader : s FSLR 35.24 out first half 34.88 stopped last portion 34.64
[07:08 am] joeytsa : yeah schwab is great for that
[07:09 am] joeytsa : love their charts though
[07:09 am] pandozzi : me too. i need to open an additional account somewhere
[07:10 am] joeytsa : that's why i switched
[07:11 am] apple : good job elec[07:12 am] skydiver : S MOS 52.23
[07:12 am] joeytsa : if BIDU breaks below the 117.30 area, might give up a buck...wait and see
[07:12 am] rusty : UAL bounce
[07:14 am] joeytsa : 3 lower highs on BIDU, needs to hold the 117.30 area or might get a $1 drop
[07:14 am] apple : nice on GPOR thx MK
[07:15 am] rusty : Breaking News: US Senate approves 2 month extension of payroll tax cut - AP
[07:15 am] joeytsa : CRM playing whack-a-mole today..but trying to hold this triple bottom
[07:17 am] qwert : crm is great today
[07:18 am] rusty : FSLR again
[07:18 am] rusty : lower high
[07:18 am] joeytsa : CRM has been money for a few weeks now
[07:18 am] joeytsa : plus it has enough adr to scalp
[07:20 am] skydiver : Covering MOS 1/3 at 51.99
[07:21 am] storage : anyone still s SFLY
[07:23 am] rusty : RAM worth watching
[07:24 am] rusty : 86 rsi[07:24 am] chinhngo : i short ulta at 64.00 what is stop please?
[07:25 am] rusty : not necessarily a daytrade....more like a bullshort....have to be careful on these thin volume pre holiday trading days
[07:25 am] rusty : sometimes the daytraders take these cheap stocks for a joyride
[07:27 am] derns : does the market close early today?
[07:27 am] joeytsa : full day
[07:27 am] derns : slowwww 2nd 30 mins of the day
[07:28 am] joeytsa : i would think later will slow down with people leaving early?
[07:28 am] rusty : probably
[07:29 am] derns : yes...and back to your earlier comment about, "who is buying?" do you think this rally over the past week has been short covering or what?
[07:29 am] rusty : by late afternoon only the algorithms and diehards/junkies will be trading
[07:29 am] Ed : I'm surprise we have gotten as much as we have, junkies abound
[07:29 am] qwert : you mean like us rusty
[07:29 am] rusty : lol qwert, eggsactly[07:30 am] khall : ha. I hope we all don't get DT's on Monday
[07:30 am] rusty : i like these thin days sometimes you get a crazy runner
[07:30 am] rusty : that turns into a good bullshort[07:30 am] derns : go crazy runner!!!
[07:30 am] scalpman : Kris ULTA Short now....?
[07:33 am] mikewd2 -: covered MOS short
[07:33 am] lightning : watching DECK
[07:33 am] lightning : forget DECK for now, sorry
[07:35 am] mikewd2 -: VHC
[07:37 am] apple : SINA still climbing
[07:37 am] pandozzi : which way is first solar gonna go?
[07:37 am] pandozzi : sina strong apple eh
[07:37 am] joeytsa : pandozzi: looks like its caught in no mans land right now
[07:38 am] pandozzi : that's what I'm thinking
[07:38 am] joeytsa : you have pivots up on streetsmartedge?
[07:38 am] apple : ditto
[07:38 am] rusty : DLTR is a good scalper, perhaps swingtrade at these levels for anyone interested
[07:39 am] rusty : trades a little thin but works up and down
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: rusty, you ever go long on VXX?
[07:39 am] joeytsa : SINA close to res
[07:40 am] rusty : yes mike yesterday and today, VXX and options
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: nice, i should have
[07:40 am] rusty : legging in to the position...have about 30% now
[07:41 am] lightning : SINA may be saying "that's enough"
[07:42 am] rusty : mike, still plenty of room
[07:42 am] rusty : my best VXX entries are at eod usually but at some point I take a position and then average up or down as necessary
[07:42 am] mikewd2 -: I'm in now rusty
[07:43 am] rusty : welcome aboard lol[07:43 am] pandozzi : hanging in on that trip short mitch[07:43 am] mikewd2 -: at hod[07:44 am] skydiver : FIO
[07:44 am] Mitch K: nice pandoz, you patient
[07:44 am] pandozzi : joey yes pivots
[07:46 am] joeytsa : pivots and yesterdays close are always good areas to watch
[07:46 am] lightning : FIO: Rumor: Fusion-io moves up on speculation of a contract win :theflyonthewall.com
[07:47 am] pandozzi : thx for the advise joey
[07:47 am] apple : nice call on DMND K
[07:47 am] rusty : NGG radar
[07:48 am] joeytsa : not that they are magic indicators..but give you good areas to look for continuation/reversals...profit/loss targets
[07:49 am] pandozzi : the more indicators the better
[07:50 am] Ed : u say u found the holy grail joey?
[07:50 am] joeytsa : i wish haha[07:50 am] Ed : u have, it is within u!!!
[07:51 am] joeytsa : my trading has improved since using pivots in combination with the chart settings though
[07:51 am] joeytsa : i can view my r/r at a glance which helps me decide to take the trade or not
[07:53 am] joeytsa : premarket gaps i want min of 3:1, scalps i try for at least 2:1
[07:54 am] joeytsa : the higher the better obviously
[07:54 am] rusty : joey, do you have anything you can share on your r/r....it's very interesting
[07:54 am] joeytsa : sure, its not mind-blowing though haha[07:54 am] rusty : like a handicapper
[07:54 am] joeytsa : exactly
[07:55 am] rusty : next one you come up with...please show us how you calculate your r/r
[07:55 am] joeytsa : if i am willing to risk $1 on a trade, my profit target has to be $2 min
[07:55 am] khall : thanks for CHS Mitch
[07:55 am] joeytsa : you can't win in this game if you risk $1 to make 15cents
[07:56 am] joeytsa : so that's what i look at...using sup/res..whether its ma's or pivots give me areas to look at
[07:56 am] joeytsa : look at BIDU right now...
[07:57 am] rusty : ok following u
[07:57 am] joeytsa : just crossed below r1 ( 117.30 area)
[07:57 am] joeytsa : looks weak...
[07:57 am] joeytsa : if i short, my stop is just above that...with 116 and below my profit target...
[07:58 am] joeytsa : i am not in this trade..just an example
[07:58 am] jsn13 : cool joey.....I'm following ur lesson quietly.....
[07:58 am] joeytsa : i can risk apprx 30cents to make $1.20
[07:58 am] joeytsa : 4:1 r/r
[07:58 am] rusty : 116 is your profit target why? cause you target $1 profit?
[07:58 am] derns : joey..so am I ...200 ma is 116.25
[07:58 am] joeytsa : round number first target
[07:59 am] joeytsa : prev cl around 115.50 area
[07:59 am] joeytsa : only issue would be the open print
[08:00 am] joeytsa : so maybe use the open print area 1st target, then lower stop to be
[08:00 am] jsn13 : Joey did u apply it to short sfly juz now at 9.42am?
[08:00 am] rusty : tx joey
[08:01 am] joeytsa : not in SFLY jsn[08:01 am] joeytsa : the thing is doing it quickly, the pivots/ma's i take a quick glance
[08:01 am] jsn13 : but can u apply the pivots idea and maybe run through how u use it if u went short?
[08:02 am] joeytsa : that's not to say i won't take a 1:1 trade...but i prefer better odds
[08:02 am] derns : joey..on what time frame are your pivots applied?
[08:02 am] joeytsa : jsn, are you talking an example for SFLY?
[08:02 am] jsn13 : yup
[08:03 am] joeytsa : derns 1m chart...that's my main chart
[08:03 am] jsn13 : like will u short it at 9.42 am juz now? how u use the pivots to help u?
[08:03 am] joeytsa : hindsight on SFLY, the short was perfect @$25 area
[08:04 am] joeytsa : broke thru prev cl, failed 2nd attempt, then head below actual pivot
[08:04 am] mikewd2 -: CRM heading up
[08:04 am] apple : nice example, joey
[08:05 am] jsn13 : if u short at the top at 27 area then how would u handle that?
[08:05 am] jsn13 : as R1 at 26.11
[08:05 am] joeytsa : jsn: even if you shorted @$25, stop would have been around $25.15, with $24.40 area profit target...
[08:06 am] joeytsa : risk 15cents to make 60cents
[08:06 am] jsn13 : hey great idea joey.....i can see how u manage and minimize ur risk here....
[08:06 am] joeytsa : those are approximates, that's why i always say the $25 "area"..prices con overshoot a few cents
[08:06 am] jsn13 : yup sure i understand that....
[08:08 am] joeytsa : jsn: i wouldn't have shorted at the top, in-between r1,r2...so it would have been a trade that passed me by
[08:08 am] jsn13 : why?
[08:08 am] joeytsa : beyond the r/r...i try to keep it in line with my trading style
[08:09 am] joeytsa : i don't need to try to catch every trade...i look for the low hanging fruit
[08:09 am] jsn13 : so u did not jump in at all?
[08:09 am] joeytsa : nope...unless it's a crazy mover, i like trending stocks
[08:10 am] jsn13 : Ok i see ur style....that's ur rules....
[08:10 am] joeytsa : play whack-a-mole with downtrenders like CRM today
[08:10 am] jsn13 : Thanks for sharing such great ideas.....
[08:10 am] joeytsa : 1st thing traders NEED to do is develop their own style
[08:11 am] joeytsa : if i call a stock..you have NO clue what I'm looking at..well maybe you do now, but in general it's hard for another trader to take my idea like i will
[08:12 am] jsn13 : yup.....so where did short CRM? was it 9.36am bar? at juz below 100?
[08:12 am] joeytsa : for example..i might be looking for a quick 10cent scalp to pay my commissions for the day....by the time you look at the chart, I'm out
[08:12 am] jsn13 : ok i see....i have my sets of rules as well....so now try to sync new ideas into my strategy...
[08:13 am] joeytsa : i didn't get into CRM until later than that
[08:13 am] joeytsa : wish i had the 1st short
[08:13 am] jsn13 : that's y I'm very interested in all the tools that work....
[08:13 am] joeytsa : don't get indicator crazy
[08:13 am] jsn13 : so that's a good spot right at juz below 100?
[08:14 am] joeytsa : i liked CRM on the fall thru the pivot and weak bounce..even though it went back thru the pivot..the stock made a lower high
[08:14 am] joeytsa : now it actually looks like it wants to uptrend a bit
[08:15 am] joeytsa : higher lows at the moment
[08:15 am] jsn13 : yup it does look like....
[08:16 am] joeytsa : sometimes i look at the pivots just like a look at the stochastics[08:16 am] joeytsa : bottoming gaining strength, or topping and getting weak
[08:17 am] apple : i don't have pivots on my esignal -- i need to get them
[08:17 am] joeytsa : it's not really a "black box" technique.
[08:17 am] joeytsa : lightspeed pivots are set differently..hate it haha[08:17 am] jsn13 : Ok i can see how u play with it....Thanks.....
[08:17 am] derns : apple...do you know how to add pivots to esignal?
[08:18 am] lightning : i do derns[08:18 am] apple : it looks like it is with the "GET" package which i don't have
[08:18 am] apple : how do you do it, light?
[08:18 am] lightning : on an esignal chart, right click. Then open the "Formulas" folder, and you'll see Pivots
[08:19 am] joeytsa : so does esignal need a provider for data?
[08:19 am] joeytsa : just remember the name of the game is support/resistance
[08:20 am] apple : you got it joey
[08:20 am] jsn13 : Yup i won't neglect that....
[08:20 am] jsn13 : Thanks for the reminder.....
[08:21 am] apple : light, i have a bunch of stuff in there, which one is it?
[08:22 am] lightning : apple, if you take PivotPointAll.eft, you'll get the R1, R2, S1 and S2 all at once
[08:22 am] lightning : sorry, that was .efs, not .eft[08:24 am] apple : are they just little black dashes?
[08:24 am] derns : thx too lightning...when adding all of them, what is the black line?
[08:25 am] lightning : yes, they are black lines that are mathematically driven and recalculated once per day.
[08:26 am] apple : thank you so much, that's a great xmas present!!!
[08:27 am] skydiver : Was on a break - thanks joey and lightning for the lesson - just put in my pivot points. Thanks
[08:27 am] apple : now we'll really be rockin in the new year!
[08:28 am] joeytsa : can the esignal pivots color be changed?
[08:29 am] lightning : yes
[08:29 am] lightning : right click on the chart and select "edit studies"
[08:29 am] joeytsa : cool,now i just have to figure my esignal out..gonna make a few calls
[08:29 am] lightning : Then select Pivot Points from the left column
[08:30 am] joeytsa : black lines won't show up on my black background :)
[08:30 am] lightning : Check the "Color" box and select any other color in the drop down (that is defaulted to black). Hit apply and you're set.
[08:30 am] joeytsa : lightning: you have esig with lightspeed?
[08:30 am] lightning : yes
[08:31 am] joeytsa : I'm not getting chart data...got something wrong here
[08:31 am] joeytsa : gonna call them today
[08:31 am] lightning : yes, you should. I don't know how to solve that, lol[08:31 am] joeytsa : looks like i have it linked with lightspeed[08:32 am] lightning : esignal drives its own data
[08:32 am] joeytsa : just no charts haha hmmm
[08:32 am] mikewd2 -: FIO continues its trend up
[08:32 am] joeytsa : nice kris[08:33 am] joeytsa : yeah mike, FIO doing ok
[08:33 am] apple : light, hate to bother you, where do you change color -- in the studies? mine is still black
[08:34 am] derns : joey...do I read FOSL correctly in that it is above R2?
[08:34 am] lightning : right click on the chart with pivots and then go to "Edit Studies"
[08:34 am] lightning : yes, derns. that's correct
[08:34 am] lightning : Apple, then select Pivot Points, and change the color from the drop down. Make sure the box is checked next to the Color drop down.
[08:35 am] derns : thx lightning..
[08:35 am] joeytsa : strong move derns, look for it to hold support
[08:36 am] derns : joey..you mean, the R2 may act as support?
[08:36 am] apple : i did that from the beginning. nothing, still black.
[08:36 am] joeytsa : that area and also the 5ma
[08:36 am] lightning : sorry, apple. That's how it works on mine. I am able to change it to any color.
[08:36 am] joeytsa : if is doesn't hold, look for support at the 15ma or 20 whichever you use
[08:37 am] apple : got out of DMND way too early
[08:37 am] joeytsa : that move was more spike-like than trend-like
[08:38 am] skydiver : I shorted FOSL at 85.19
[08:39 am] joeytsa : maybe trail your stop sky
[08:40 am] joeytsa : FOSL just gave another nice lesson though
[08:40 am] skydiver : yes joey - thanks -- still lots to learn :)
[08:41 am] derns : so joey, is it fair to say that you like to trade when a stock price hits/exceeds a pivot point expecting it to bounce off it?
[08:41 am] joeytsa : look at that chart where it broke out of consolidation/hod[08:42 am] skydiver : out 1/2 FOSL $84.79
[08:42 am] derns : you talking about FOSL on 1 min around 8:28 am?
[08:43 am] joeytsa : right around then derns...
[08:43 am] derns : yes...volume picked up and it jumped $1
[08:44 am] joeytsa : $84.70 entry area gave about 75cents upside target...
[08:44 am] derns : would you have entered after the first 1 min green candle for that trade?
[08:45 am] joeytsa : worst case 50cent stop loss...but maybe a little more conservative 30cents on a beak of the 5/15ma support?
[08:45 am] joeytsa : yeah on the break..probably wouldn't have gotten a great fill...
[08:45 am] rusty : RAM day traders having fun....hoping they take this one higher
[08:46 am] joeytsa : worst case let's say i got in at $84.90,profit target 60 cents, loss 30cents, 2:1 :)
[08:46 am] michael : the banana volume from 8:26 to 8:33 also offered a good short indication right back to resistance
[08:47 am] derns : got it..thx[08:47 am] joeytsa : yes mike
[08:48 am] joeytsa : so you had a semi-parabolic move running into resistance and a fail to hold that new level...just more odds on your side like mitch says....
[08:48 am] joeytsa : set your stops and you won't get too hurt if/when the trade doesn't work
[08:48 am] apple : light, for ex. on 2 min LULU chart where are your pivots?
[08:50 am] michael : excellent explanations on everything Joey, thank you
[08:50 am] weston : ONXX hod[08:50 am] mikewd2 -: FIO new hod[08:50 am] joeytsa : no prob..I'm still learning too, don't forget :)
[08:50 am] lightning : apple, I show R1 at 47.25, r2 at 47.73, S1 at 46.50 and S2 at 46.04.
[08:51 am] joeytsa : if it wasn't for TSA...my trading would be totally different..and not for the good :)
[08:51 am] apple : no, something is not right, thx
[08:52 am] skydiver : Agreed there joey
[08:52 am] michael : true as spoken joey
[08:52 am] joeytsa : I've learned a ton of stuff here...and new twists to things i had done
[08:52 am] joeytsa : i never even heard of lightspeed until i came here haha[08:52 am] pandozzi : i hear ya joey
[08:52 am] michael : true again
[08:53 am] pandozzi : about tsa[08:53 am] joeytsa : honestly..trading with charts and indicators is fairly new to me
[08:53 am] lightning : Hmmm, I use esignal v 10.6
[08:55 am] apple : i will have to check it later. thx anyway
[08:56 am] pandozzi : didn't start using charts and indicators till i started at tsa[08:56 am] ryhghs3tsa -: things seem calm so i want to ask. for stochastics what is the preference exp or simple?
[08:56 am] joeytsa : slow time of day, not a rec..but CVX sitting on support, a break above the $107 area might give off a 2:1
[08:56 am] joeytsa : yeah pandozzi...trading without charts is a trip haha[08:57 am] joeytsa : on CVX, stochs bottoming..looking for macd to turn up and the break above the ma's
[08:58 am] mikewd2 -: out FIO, nice slow ride
[08:59 am] skydiver : Nice mikewd2
[08:59 am] joeytsa : good job mike
[08:59 am] derns : joey..I'm tracking your CVX lesson
[08:59 am] mikewd2 -: ty guys
[08:59 am] michael : where'd you get in again MIke?
[09:00 am] joeytsa : derns: my trading is done for the day..but i still like to watch stock moves
[09:00 am] derns : appreciate it..thx[09:00 am] mikewd2 -: 26.4 on FIO during that consolidation
[09:01 am] joeytsa : plus CVX isn't a big mover for the most part...i just happened to have it up from the other day
[09:01 am] michael : got it, nicely done
[09:01 am] mikewd2 -: out 27.17
[09:01 am] mikewd2 -: would like to swing FIO for a few days, but not going to over holidays
[09:01 am] zentrader : L MJN 65.62 will stop below 64.96
[09:02 am] joeytsa : yeah mike..tuesday seems like forever :)
[09:04 am] zentrader : I was slapped by MJN yesterday.
[09:04 am] zentrader : Let's see if today is different, but no revenge trading. I promise :)
[09:05 am] joeytsa : revenge trading always leads me to lose money
[09:05 am] zentrader : yep
[09:05 am] michael : PHH got me yesterday, and I deserved it. Fixed it before the day was over
[09:05 am] mikewd2 -: me too joey
[09:06 am] zentrader : I'm thinking we can see some good upward movement on MJN now.
[09:07 am] zentrader : I think the news is already baked into the price and they are saying the baby did not die from their formula
[09:07 am] derns : zentrader...would you consider a swing long trade on MJN?
[09:08 am] skydiver : FIO came down nicely
[09:09 am] mikewd2 -: considering getting back in sky, but may just watch
[09:09 am] skydiver : gotch mike
[09:15 am] skydiver : lulu still climbing
[09:15 am] mikewd2 -: nice bounce in RAM
[09:18 am] skydiver : glad I had a tight stop on my S on FOSL
[09:18 am] zentrader : I'm also swinging MJN long on another account - will stop below 64.00
[09:19 am] skydiver : another green day -- not fantastic day for me -- but decent.
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: is there news on RAM?
[09:20 am] michael : mike, was RAM what rusty mentioned before? that really did take off
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[09:21 am] mikewd2 -: nice consol at 2.25 then just took off
[09:21 am] skydiver : Don't see any recent news on RAM on the fly on the wall
[09:21 am] qwert : lightning a question about pivots. are yours labeled pivot,r1,r2 etc.
[09:21 am] mikewd2 -: i didn't either sky
[09:21 am] lightning : not on esignal[09:22 am] qwert : can you see all at once I'm only seeing 1 at a time
[09:22 am] lightning : what stock are you looking at qwert?
[09:23 am] qwert : ulta[09:23 am] zentrader : I'm swinging FOSL long also, entry is 84.94
[09:24 am] qwert : i have pivot at 64.85 on ulta[09:24 am] qwert : 1 min. chart
[09:24 am] lightning : qwert,yes, that is right. You can squeeze the chart so that you have a bigger range in prices and then you'll see all of them.
[09:25 am] lightning : do you know how to do that
[09:25 am] qwert : okay so you don't use the auto scale feature
[09:25 am] lightning : I auto scale off price only.
[09:25 am] qwert : it's just drag in the area on right correct?
[09:26 am] lightning : right.
[09:26 am] lightning : you should see R2 at 65.69 and S1 at 63.32 and s2 at 62.47.
[09:26 am] qwert : do you have pivots on all charts
[09:27 am] apple : i contacted esignal will talk with them later. i had 64.84 - something is not right.
[09:27 am] qwert : i see all pivots now
[09:27 am] lightning : no, i rarely use pivots, but I have it on one of my 7 charts I keep up. That way I can look at it if I want to.
[09:27 am] qwert : that's what i will do to hard with everything squeezed
[09:28 am] weston : hi guys, i have problem with TS chart, the current price is like lagging by 2mins
[09:28 am] weston : does anyone here has any clue why?
[09:28 am] apple : the funny thing is I have a number of those pivots -- definitely not right.
[09:29 am] mikewd2 -: weston, my TS and etrade are matching fine.
[09:29 am] zentrader : Is there such a thing as a retirement account (e.g. SEP, ROTH IRA) that allows you to short positions?
[09:29 am] weston : hmm...thanks mike...but mine is definitely lagging
[09:30 am] lightning : apple, I show R1 at 64.85 on ULTA. You and I disagree by only .01. Are the others close?
[09:30 am] apple : not that i know of zen -- no shorts, you have to have the cash
[09:30 am] michael : pretty sure not Zen
[09:30 am] lightning : zen, the only thing you can do is buy short ETFs in an IRA.
[09:30 am] apple : i got a bunch of small lines all over.
[09:30 am] apple : right, light, ETFs
[09:31 am] joeytsa : ira's don't allow margin i believe
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: definitely not joey
[09:31 am] apple : you have to have the cash...
[09:32 am] joeytsa : but some ira's do allow you to buy puts
[09:32 am] joeytsa : but that also depends on the broker
[09:32 am] apple : light, i have too many of those lines, they will help me remotely later.
[09:32 am] joeytsa : schwab won't let me buy puts in a roth, but optionsxpress will
[09:33 am] joeytsa : at least that's what i was told
[09:34 am] skydiver : Nice Zen on FOSL long -
[09:34 am] zentrader : yeah
[09:34 am] joeytsa : nice trade zen[09:35 am] zentrader : Thanks team.
[09:35 am] rusty : there are ways to short an IRA if so desired
[09:35 am] zentrader : I'm attacking FOSL from two different trading accounts
[09:35 am] rusty : depending on your type of pension plan
[09:36 am] apple : way to go zen[09:36 am] rusty : your pension plan can "invest" in another entity that you setup
[09:37 am] rusty : and then that entity can open a margin account with the right broker
[09:37 am] zentrader : I'm moving a bit of money around accounts, setting up for next year
[09:37 am] rusty : http://www.traderstatus.com
[09:37 am] zentrader : I've already tapped out me SEP (can't contribute any more)
[09:37 am] rusty : look around on that site...lot of info there
[09:37 am] rusty : also a good trading accountant
[09:37 am] zentrader : thanks Rusty
[09:38 am] rusty : i wanted to short my pension account before short ETF's were in vogue...they made me jump through all sorts of hoops
[09:39 am] rusty : now it's a little easier....recommend you do it with a good accountant
[09:39 am] joeytsa : finally...esignal chart data and pivots :)
[09:39 am] skydiver : good job joey - I have esignal too - now have pivot points setup
[09:39 am] joeytsa : I'm using esg11..heard it has some issues though
[09:40 am] apple : i have 10.6 like light
[09:40 am] rusty : one caveat is you have to be careful using margin in your pension plan account...it could make you liable for taxes and invalidate some plans
[09:40 am] skydiver : really joey? I'm still using the 10.6 due to the bugs in 11
[09:40 am] joeytsa : at least esig gives you the level, schwab just has lines without values
[09:40 am] joeytsa : i didn't even see a dl link for 10..maybe i didn't look well enough
[09:41 am] lightning : well, I'm sure they want everyone on v.11 so they don't have to support multiple versions.
[09:42 am] joeytsa : yeah...lightning, do they have yesterday's close as a study?
[09:42 am] mikewd2 -: RAM bouncing again
[09:42 am] lightning : Yes, joey. Right click, look in the Formulas folder and select the OHLC folder from it. You can pick from the list
[09:42 am] rusty : MJN http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20111223-vrj p-317kb.jpg
[09:42 am] joeytsa : thanks..you rock !!!!
[09:43 am] zentrader : Joey - how is MadScan treating you?
[09:43 am] joeytsa : i love it for what i do
[09:44 am] rusty : daytraders love the RAM....please take it higher you junkies
[09:44 am] joeytsa : i have 6 scans running...it's enough to find trades with
[09:44 am] rusty : so TSA can have a nice bullshort for Christmas/NYears[09:46 am] rusty : look what daytraders did to XOMA end of last year
[09:46 am] rusty : and what happened thereafter
[09:46 am] mikewd2 -: Obama fixing to discuss tax bill
[09:46 am] skydiver : Maybe he'll kick up some shorts for us
[09:46 am] michael : I looked at RAM this morning when you said it rusty, then forgot until mikewd2 spoke of it
[09:46 am] derns : is it time for an Obama short?
[09:47 am] rusty : daytrader junkies love the cheap stocks
[09:47 am] derns : sorry sky..didn't see your post
[09:47 am] rusty : let them play with it then we take a bite out of it :-)
[09:47 am] joeytsa : lightning: last dumb question..how do you zoom in?
[09:48 am] michael : what are you looking for rusty?
[09:48 am] skydiver : np derns[09:48 am] lightning : on your chart, Joey, you can "grab" either the horizontal or vertical scale and stretch it or condense it. Just put the mouse over the number, hold it down and move the mouse. Make sense?
[09:48 am] rusty : a parabolic run
[09:48 am] rusty : it's getting there
[09:49 am] rusty : the higher it goes the better
[09:49 am] joeytsa : i think so, if i have any issues i will shoot you an email thank you again for the help
[09:49 am] lightning : no problem. happy to help
[09:50 am] zentrader : watch MJN here for a quick 30 cents
[09:51 am] zentrader : be careful though
[09:51 am] rusty : RAM longer term weekly chart
[09:51 am] rusty : http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20111223-siz l-151kb.jpg
[09:51 am] rusty : RAM
[09:53 am] apple : at this point, since it's slow, i want to wish MK, K, B, E and each one of you, many blessings for all the holidays and much prosperity in the coming year. I am so grateful to be in the company of such wonderful people. Thank you.
[09:53 am] lightning : same here apple, and back atcha[09:54 am] qwert : right back at you apple merry christmas[09:54 am] skydiver : Merry Christmas you as well apple and Happy New year with great trading
[09:54 am] Ed : thank you apple and happy to know u as well, and happy holidays to you and yours
[09:55 am] joeytsa : well said apple..and hope you have a Merry Christmas and amazing 2012
[09:55 am] apple : i think 2012 will be my year!
[09:55 am] joeytsa : same here
[09:56 am] mhaus : 2012 will be our year
[09:56 am] lightning : May it be true for all of us!
[09:57 am] observer : thank you for all your kind wishes apple. We wish you a joyous season and prosperous new year
[09:57 am] zentrader : took 1/4 on MJN at 65.32
[10:00 am] desaist : ALXN...
[10:00 am] michael : rusty, 5 minute candle at 9:50 offered a pretty good entry short
[10:00 am] michael : 9:40, not 9:50
[10:03 am] mikewd2 -: MJN new lod[10:07 am] rusty : MJN trading rather orderly
[10:08 am] apple : nice on MJN zen[10:09 am] rusty : MJN http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20111223-kku d-315kb.jpg
[10:10 am] rusty : nice regression line
[10:11 am] michael : do you draw that line rusty or is it a study?
[10:12 am] rusty : hand drawn
[10:13 am] rusty : gives me the big picture
[10:14 am] rusty : now MJN is moving away from the regression line
[10:14 am] zentrader : more fear infiltrating MJN
[10:15 am] michael : rusty, how are you picking your points?
[10:16 am] rusty : through the lower tops...it's not perfect...just reminds me of direction so I trade with the trend
[10:17 am] rusty : and not try to fight it too much
[10:17 am] joeytsa : makes a ton of sense rusty
[10:17 am] rusty : and as MJN gets further from the line up or down the more its apt to bounce back toward it
[10:18 am] rusty : like a giant bungee cord
[10:18 am] Ed : reversion to the mean
[10:20 am] derns : desaist...there goes your ALXN
[10:21 am] rusty : http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20111223-tz1 2-322kb.jpg
[10:21 am] rusty : MJN
[10:22 am] apple : L MJN 64.24
[10:23 am] rusty : MJN down channel http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20111223-ox1 e-317kb.jpg
[10:23 am] rusty : roughly drawn
[10:25 am] rusty : VIX hod[10:25 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[10:25 am] mikewd2 -: ty rusty
[10:25 am] rusty : VXX pardon
[10:25 am] rusty : market up and VIX up...gotta love it
[10:25 am] mikewd2 -: obama finally talking tax cut extension
[10:29 am] rusty : http://www.amazon.com/Real-Estate-Boom-Will-B ust/dp/0385514352 My favorite real estate book
[10:29 am] rusty : from the former head of the realtor association
[10:29 am] rusty : look at the cover picture
[10:29 am] joeytsa : haha[10:32 am] rusty : KMR sorta radar
[10:32 am] rusty : new highs
[10:33 am] rusty : all time highs
[10:37 am] rusty : SPY very low volume as expected
[10:38 am] rusty : looks like near lowest volume of year
[10:40 am] zentrader : let's see if MJN can go all the way to VWAP on 1 min chart
[10:40 am] zentrader : lol[10:42 am] rusty : http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20111223-aqw l-319kb.jpg MJN
[10:45 am] rusty : regression line like a magnet today
[10:47 am] mikewd2 -: MJN L 64.34
[10:47 am] weston : question here, kinda out topic, I am just going to open the TS account, the real time data fee have to pay? extra?
[10:47 am] mikewd2 -: stop below 64
[10:48 am] mikewd2 -: i had to select the feeds i wanted, not sure I'm paying for them - but maybe.
[10:48 am] mikewd2 -: Ed, will be able to answer that.
[10:49 am] mikewd2 -: he's a TS guru
[10:49 am] bopphaley : $1 per feed. $3 for all three per month
[10:49 am] mikewd2 -: if you trade enough, do you get that free also?
[10:49 am] bopphaley : No
[10:50 am] bopphaley : Non negotiable, they told me
[10:50 am] mikewd2 -: ok, np - i like the platform it's worth it
[10:50 am] bopphaley : I buy nas & nyse[10:51 am] mikewd2 -: i selected the same that Ed had, can't remember what i selected.
[10:52 am] Ed : best to check with ur contact, I don't pay any fees.
[10:52 am] Ed : said another way, I do enough in trades that it covers cost
[10:52 am] mikewd2 -: go MJN
[10:53 am] bopphaley : My radar and monthly fee is covered. They told me markets were non neg. If you get those free I want your rep
[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: either way, i'll make up the money with better short inventory, lower commissions
[10:53 am] weston : i see, thanks guys
[10:53 am] Ed : are u a subscriber or you use to trade through
[10:54 am] mikewd2 -: especially on 200-300 share trades
[10:54 am] bopphaley : subscriber
[10:54 am] Ed : that's the reason
[10:54 am] bopphaley : Has anyone negotiated lower commission fees with them?
[10:55 am] mikewd2 -: i just got on TS this month.
[10:55 am] bopphaley : what is trade through?
[10:55 am] thomasohana : as a platform
[10:55 am] Ed : u use them as ur broker to place trades in platform
[10:56 am] michael : MJN looks like it's wedging into tighter consolidation, just don't know which way it's gonna go
[10:56 am] bopphaley : Thanks. I'll do some reading on that.
[10:56 am] mikewd2 -: i was hoping for a higher high on these bounces.
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: moved my stop up just below last low
[10:57 am] Ed : here is my contact at ts, Ilan Klein 954 652 7422
[10:57 am] bopphaley : Is anyone here willing to give a small training on small stocks? I want to love them but I am afraid of them and I know you should be mindful of putting too much money at one time as to not move the market. Thanks for the contact info.
[10:57 am] michael : one close above the 15 ma on the 5 min would give you some hope
[10:57 am] Ed : ask about any specials they may have when ur ready
[10:58 am] mikewd2 -: tell him Ed sent you
[10:58 am] mikewd2 -: i think the special is 60 days of free commission
[10:58 am] Ed : forgot that part, thx mike
[10:59 am] willm : LULU new hod[10:59 am] rusty : bopp, what small stocks you looking at?
[10:59 am] bopphaley : I've been watching RAM since you mentioned it earlier.
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: SHLD
[11:00 am] rusty : I think RAM is done
[11:01 am] Ed : bopphaley, if ur a new trader I would stay with stocks above $20,
[11:01 am] rusty : RAM is very extended and I would stay away from it long for now unless you are very fast
[11:01 am] mikewd2 -: probably a very good idea Ed
[11:01 am] bopphaley : I'm a half year old. I like $20 stocks as well.
[11:02 am] willm : Ed is LULU shortable?
[11:02 am] rusty : note the huge wick on RAM's daily candle
[11:02 am] rusty : = Danger Will Robinson, Danger
[11:02 am] bopphaley : up today - down yesterday
[11:03 am] rusty : we can only hope that RAM gets a bounce
[11:03 am] rusty : so we can short into the parabolic move
[11:04 am] Ed : willm, we have a dull market right now, and it's best not to short a dull market as a new trader
[11:05 am] mhaus : SFLY
[11:06 am] Ed : drifted from 26.94
[11:06 am] rusty : MJN hugging its regression line
[11:06 am] jsn13 : Ed did u get that short at the top?
[11:07 am] Ed : pretty close
[11:07 am] rusty : http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20111223-fqu m-307kb.jpg
[11:07 am] mhaus : dropped 35c in 6 minutes
[11:07 am] rusty : MJN
[11:07 am] jsn13 : What price did u get in? or do u still has a small piece in?
[11:08 am] mikewd2 -: bit surprised i didn't get stopped on MJN
[11:09 am] Ed : i played it conservative today, entry was 26.27
[11:10 am] Ed : normally i would hit it at 26.78 and 2nd entry 26.27,
[11:10 am] jsn13 : i almost went in at 26.20 area also.....but the price move faster than my limit order....ended up missing it cos don want to chase....stops become too wide for me....
[11:10 am] jsn13 : but when i looked back, i regretted being to stingy on the price...
[11:10 am] Ed : right around holiday time i play more conservative on entry
[11:11 am] weston : jsn, I feel the same thing many times
[11:11 am] jsn13 : i thought of that too especially at 26.2...
[11:11 am] jsn13 : have to limit risk sometimes...but at least i got the right bar in mind.....
[11:12 am] Ed : still would have been nice price after bearish engulfing pattern confirmed the change in trend
[11:12 am] weston : kinda wanna share my experience here, I am using TOS now, dun know why not able to execute my trade in time always
[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: i have a td accnt and played with TOS - i didn't like it
[11:14 am] weston : anyone here got the similar experience?
[11:15 am] mikewd2 -: at least compared to TS
[11:15 am] weston : then I was thinking to switch to either TS or IB
[11:15 am] mikewd2 -: didn't want to do Ninja and IB then have to deal with Kinetic, etc.
[11:16 am] mikewd2 -: i like the all in one package like TS
[11:17 am] theen3my : weston regarding TS account, platform fee waived for 5k shares round trip, but expect to pay about 100 for data (include LII)
[11:17 am] rusty : http://www.businessinsider.com/seafood-10000- times-more-carcinogens2011-12
[11:18 am] lightning : weston, it could have to do with your computer set up as well. If you are using a wireless connection, there's a small delay. Also, if your internet service is slower for uploading/downloading, that can be an issue as well.
[11:18 am] mikewd2 -: didn't realize it was that much theen3my
[11:19 am] theen3my : without LII only about 20
[11:24 am] weston : I didn't use L2 so far, I have 20mbps here for internet, I think should be good enough
[11:25 am] rusty : DMND lod[11:25 am] apple : thx rusty for reminding i got out way too soon
[11:26 am] rusty : people only like to buy DMND at the high
[11:26 am] rusty : at the low everyone sells it
[11:27 am] rusty : good one to sell some puts on
[11:28 am] rusty : Jan 26 Puts 1.6
[11:29 am] rusty : gives you 24.40 basis
[11:32 am] mikewd2 -: moved into MJN, just to keep me awake
[11:33 am] joeytsa : mike did you go long and short just to break even :)
[11:33 am] mikewd2 -: thinking about taking my $35 profit and calling it a day
[11:33 am] mikewd2 -: that would have been better idea, joey
[11:33 am] mikewd2 -: no risk, but the thrill
[11:34 am] theen3my : just looked basic data for TS is 3(amex,NYSE,NASDAQ), Level II is additional 11 and full market depth another 25. So 47 for full data 3 for minimum
[11:34 am] joeytsa : people do that at the track all the time..just make bets to keep in action
[11:35 am] Ed : not bad for cost of doing biz
[11:35 am] mikewd2 -: i didn't get Level II
[11:35 am] mikewd2 -: MJN on the move
[11:36 am] joeytsa : i assume that you would need to get level 2 in order to have access to level3?
[11:36 am] qwert : mike i hope your long on mjn nice pop
[11:36 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, still in
[11:36 am] theen3my : If i was a pro probably use esignal/IB or esignal/lightspeed[11:37 am] willm : MJN up
[11:37 am] theen3my : good one!! I use TS because cheap to me
[11:37 am] theen3my : but adequate
[11:38 am] Ed : actually all that u mention are great platforms for trading
[11:38 am] weston : what u use Ed?
[11:38 am] mikewd2 -: Ed, you staying on TS now that you're a TSA'er[11:38 am] theen3my : TS seems to lock up on me sometimes, particularly with a lot of charts open
[11:38 am] Ed : tradestation and esignal[11:39 am] Ed : i really like both
[11:40 am] theen3my : All I want for christmas is esignal!!
[11:41 am] Ed : been with tradestation since 98, and esignal 2years cant part with either
[11:43 am] theen3my : esignal pricing/packages is confusing
[11:43 am] mikewd2 -: i thought so also
[11:45 am] joeytsa : i just signed up and am all confused theen haha[11:45 am] lightning : theen3my, you are right it's confusing. It's better to call them up and tell then what you are looking for.
[11:46 am] joeytsa : still can't link lightning..arrggg hah
[11:46 am] thomasohana : Ed, just curious what you use for scanning software?
[11:47 am] lightning : maybe it doesn't work in v.11? Next bet is to reboot esignal and/or LS and try it again.
[11:47 am] joeytsa : trying that now
[11:47 am] jsn13 : Wow look at SFLY....bout 4% move....
[11:47 am] Ed : i use a scanner in tradestation, radarscan,
[11:47 am] thomasohana : ok thx
[11:48 am] jsn13 : Such a waste for not taking the risk.....
[11:48 am] mikewd2 -: i haven't figured out radarscan yet Ed, need to work on that more
[11:48 am] Ed : i included volatility feature for one and high/low for universe of stocks
[11:48 am] Ed : tradestation has a lot of bells and whistles
[11:48 am] mikewd2 -: i like the hot lists, 2 min movers on TS
[11:49 am] Ed : did not know, seriously
[11:49 am] theen3my : more info mike?
[11:49 am] mikewd2 -: select hot list and then the 2 min risers/fallers
[11:50 am] Ed : i still play with it and find new things
[11:50 am] mikewd2 -: rapid risers/fallers but its 2mins
[11:51 am] mikewd2 -: Ed, did you get the volume/stochastics in same chart area?
[11:51 am] mikewd2 -: definitely a space saver
[11:52 am] Ed : i may get chance to do it this weekend
[11:58 am] bopphaley : Mike, did you get volume and stochastics on same chart? I tried several times - forgot to ask phone support.
[11:59 am] mikewd2 -: you have to grab the volume and move on top of stochastics. It will ask for the axis to put the volume select left.
[11:59 am] Ed : last hour of power
[11:59 am] bopphaley : I will try that. Thanks.
[11:59 am] weston : lulu, look likes turn over
[12:15 pm] joeytsa : SPY looks half the volume of yesterday
[12:19 pm] rusty : lowest of year
[12:24 pm] willm : MJN diving
[12:26 pm] joeytsa : all linked lightning :) ver 10
[12:27 pm] joeytsa : LS/Madscan/Esignal all linked up nice
[12:30 pm] joeytsa : just have to figure out how to add/move charts
[12:31 pm] lightning : joey, you can add charts. Under File, New, select Advanced Charts. You can have as many as you want.
[12:32 pm] joeytsa : use advanced instead of standard
[12:32 pm] lightning : I do.
[12:33 pm] joeytsa : weird, when it came on//the chart was locked into the esig window..couldn't move it to another monitor unless i enlarged it..but then the esig window went away
[12:33 pm] lightning : To move a chart to another monitor, you right click on the chart, select View and then select Float/Dock Window.
[12:33 pm] joeytsa : i will get the hang of it
[12:33 pm] joeytsa : i see....and i think your idea of a 2nd page might work with linking to a 2nd OE in lightspeed[12:35 pm] lightning : seems like it could. I haven't tried it.
[12:51 pm] willm : Mitch, MJN will go like this next week?
[12:53 pm] apple : thx for MJN MK
[12:55 pm] rusty : Daytraders getting trapped in RAM
[12:55 pm] rusty : nice volume too
[12:55 pm] rusty : on radar for next week
[12:55 pm] lightning : Thanks TSA and everyone. Have a great Christmas (or weekend if you're not the Christmas-type) and we'll see you back here on Tuesday. Best, all.
[12:56 pm] Ed : take care light
[12:57 pm] joeytsa : Merry Christmas everyone
[12:57 pm] rusty : Gilbert Gottfried CNBC
[12:59 pm] michael : you too Mitch, thanks for the room
[01:01 pm] go4it : Thanks mitch for mjn! Merry Christmas! Have a great Holiday ALL!
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