Chat Highlights From 12/21/2011

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:19 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:20 am] Ed : good morning
[06:20 am] Mitch K: hi ladies gents
[06:26 am] Brent : good morning
[06:28 am] Mitch K: ZAGG short over, lol[06:32 am] Brent : watching VMW for a bounce
[06:32 am] Mitch K: quick short in MDT soon
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching EMR for bottom to buy
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching KMX for bottom;
[06:34 am] Kris : watching RHT for a long
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching GMCR for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching RHT
[06:35 am] Kris : HNZ long half
[06:35 am] Kris : MCD long half
[06:36 am] Kris : ILMN long half
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching FTNT for bottom
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching KBH for bottom
[06:37 am] Kris : EGO long half
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching CVLT for bottom
[06:39 am] Kris : AMGN long half
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching QLIK for bottom
[06:40 am] Ed : VMW bouncing, too late to buy
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching ARUN for bottom
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching CTRP for bottom
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching INFA for bottom
[06:43 am] Kris : starting to watch UPRO for a long
[06:43 am] Mitch K: KBH acting like dog
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching CHKP for bottom
[06:46 am] Kris : out half EGO long
[06:46 am] Mitch K: consider covering half of MDT short
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watch KMX for short on top of bounce; consider reducing your long position in KMX
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching TIBX for bottom
[06:47 am] Kris : long second half MCD
[06:47 am] Kris : still waiting just a little bit longer to add second half ILMN long
[06:49 am] Kris : careful if you took RHT long, not acting right on this bottom
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider selling KMX; worth small initial short
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching for short in INHX, advanced traders
[06:50 am] Kris : SPY selling back into the lod[06:50 am] Mitch K: CVLT trying to bounce
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching CHKP closer
[06:52 am] Mitch K: missed WFM bottom, monitoring for top to short, no hurry
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching for bottom in OTEX
[06:53 am] Mitch K: consider covering KMX short, most of it
[06:53 am] Mitch K: CTRP bouncing
[06:55 am] Kris : will watch CVS for a pullback to take long, support around 40.00
[06:56 am] Mitch K: EMR bouncing
[06:56 am] Mitch K: if anyone still short MDT, consider covering
[06:56 am] Mitch K: late comment on EMR, was watching earlier
[06:57 am] Kris : still watching AMGN to add second half to long
[06:57 am] Mitch K: monitoring QCOR, not ready yet for bottom
[06:57 am] Mitch K: WFM turning over
[06:59 am] Mitch K: INFA bouncing
[07:00 am] Mitch K: these bottoms are taking quite a long time to move up, more negative, even with SPY bouncing
[07:01 am] Kris : great job skydiver, nice trade
[07:01 am] Kris : SPY forming trendline resistance
[07:02 am] Ed : GMCR hod[07:02 am] Kris : GMCR strong today, coming into resistance
[07:02 am] Mitch K: see if WFM makes new low; looks like it will
[07:03 am] Kris : AMGN long second half
[07:04 am] Mitch K: consider covering WFM short
[07:05 am] Mitch K: anyone get GMCR long earlier
[07:05 am] Mitch K: you guys get that WFM
[07:06 am] Kris : ILMN long second half
[07:06 am] Mitch K: CVLT trying to bounce
[07:06 am] Mitch K: GMCR toppy
[07:07 am] Mitch K: i think i said that 16 min ago on CVLT
[07:10 am] Kris : looking for new hod in AMGN
[07:15 am] Mitch K: watching STJ
[07:16 am] Mitch K: for top but not in hurry
[07:16 am] Mitch K: forget CVLT long, dog
[07:19 am] Kris : move up stop on second half above BE
[07:19 am] Kris : out half AMGN long
[07:19 am] Kris : TLEO short half
[07:20 am] Kris : FTNT short half
[07:20 am] Kris : holding last 1/4 for break to new hod[07:20 am] Kris : out another 1/4 EGO long
[07:21 am] Mitch K: watching CREE for short soon
[07:22 am] Kris : moving up stop on second half above BE
[07:22 am] Kris : out half HNZ long
[07:22 am] Kris : yes mhaus[07:23 am] Kris : DECK short half
[07:25 am] Kris : out half TLEO short
[07:28 am] Kris : out another 1/4 AMGN long
[07:31 am] Kris : no falling in love here, love em and leave em[07:32 am] Kris : buyers coming in here, SPY trying to push this last high
[07:33 am] Kris : out all EGO long
[07:34 am] Kris : out half DECK short
[07:35 am] Kris : out another 1/4 DECK short
[07:47 am] Mitch K: consider covering most of CREE
[07:58 am] Kris : out half FTNT short
[08:01 am] Kris : SPY slowly approaching lod support
[08:01 am] Kris : things starting to slow down some
[08:09 am] Mitch K: CTSH bouncing
[08:10 am] Mitch K: indexes close to low of day
[08:45 am] Mitch K: watching DSW for short,
[09:01 am] Ed : advanced trade
[09:01 am] Ed : watching CEG
[09:02 am] Mitch K: more downside on CEG
[09:03 am] Ed : halted
[09:03 am] Mitch K: although daily on CEG would support a bounce; see if 35 holds
[09:04 am] Ed : circuit breaker halt
[09:04 am] Mitch K: if you are short and it halts, usually opens with more downside on situation like CEG
[09:40 am] Brent : SPY coming into trendline resistance
[11:17 am] Ed : advanced trade
[11:17 am] Ed : watching IDCC
[11:22 am] Ed : nice guys/gals
[11:22 am] Ed : out all 40.43
[11:38 am] Brent : PRGO moving
[12:09 pm] Mitch K: did any one short that DSW?
[12:09 pm] Mitch K: does anyone have designer shoes? I think that’s Designer Shoe Warehouse
[12:10 pm] Ed : oops
[12:10 pm] Ed : they never have ur size
[12:10 pm] Mitch K: Ed, I was talking to the ladies
[12:33 pm] Brent : watching YHOO, getting late in the day though
[01:00 pm] Ed : good night
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a good night, see you all tomorrow
[06:06 am] joeytsa : ORCL laid a big egg
[06:08 am] joeytsa : existing home sales at 7ampst, crude inv at 7:30pst
[06:09 am] joeytsa : gap down: ORCL,CRM,BIDU,SINA,WAG
[06:09 am] truck : ORCL ‘s miss,,,not affecting INTC…Interesting to me.
[06:10 am] doji : Hey Truck, are you short ORCL?
[06:10 am] truck : no,,, I wish
[06:10 am] joeytsa : gap up: RIMM,EXPE,AAPL,
[06:11 am] doji : It has support at 24.72
[06:11 am] joeytsa : they are just the latest company that might be telling us that 2012 is going to be ugly
[06:11 am] doji : NFLX, where it is today?
[06:11 am] joeytsa : 70.63
[06:13 am] doji : I has not moved
[06:13 am] doji : Futures dropped, the moved up in the last 30 minutes and is heading down now again… it looks to me that it will drop even further after the open
[06:14 am] joeytsa : doji: that drop was probably due to italy news
[06:15 am] joeytsa : Italy GDP contracts…signaling new recession..bloomberg[06:15 am] joeytsa : ORCL still diving
[06:20 am] rusty : RIMM looking good for now
[06:20 am] rusty : RIMM up on report that AMZN was interested in them
[06:21 am] truck : AMZN buying RIMM ,,, head fake…. Kris is the buyer.
[06:25 am] rusty : ZAGG radar
[06:27 am] doji : Hey Kris, how would you trade RIMM? I’ll wait for the open to see how it moves
[06:27 am] rusty : INHX radar
[06:27 am] doji : ZAGG increased revenue guidance
[06:31 am] pandozzi : vmw opened down 5 bucks
[06:31 am] joeytsa : yeah and dropped 2 since the open
[06:32 am] joeytsa : FTNT look for a bottom
[06:32 am] rusty : watching SINA
[06:33 am] joeytsa : IBM getting hammered..ORCL related?
[06:33 am] doji : INTC
[06:35 am] joeytsa : watching CRM for more downside
[06:37 am] doji : SPY still weak
[06:38 am] joeytsa : tighten stop on CRM if in short
[06:38 am] doji : out 1/2 INTC short
[06:39 am] joeytsa : QLIK looking ugly
[06:39 am] rusty : JDSU radar
[06:40 am] joeytsa : ES trying to find a bottom near 1230
[06:40 am] doji : Don’t chase VMW
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: technology will be weak do to Oracle
[06:42 am] joeytsa : AMZN lod..watch the $180 level
[06:42 am] doji : YEs Mike, still keeping 1/2 short in INTC
[06:42 am] joeytsa : big miss by them mike
[06:42 am] skydiver : I’m short RIMM 13.91 – slowly going down
[06:43 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on SINA long
[06:43 am] anthonyb : JOY
[06:43 am] joeytsa : yeah mitch…existing home sales in 15 minutes too
[06:44 am] doji : Watch out RIMM Sky as it could snap back
[06:44 am] joeytsa : PCLN took a dump…ran right up to res yesterday
[06:44 am] skydiver : Moving stop down on RIMM
[06:45 am] rusty : ZAGG 2M shares unlocked today
[06:45 am] joeytsa : CRM trying to find its legs..but i won’t go long just yet..looking for even more down
[06:46 am] skydiver : out 1/2 RIMM
[06:46 am] weston : UPRO turn over
[06:47 am] anthonyb : here comes second entry for MCD long
[06:48 am] doji : CHKP still dropping
[06:51 am] doji : INTC at pivot point
[06:51 am] joeytsa : trail CRM if short, don’t lose too much profit
[06:52 am] joeytsa : taking profits on CHKP short
[06:52 am] rusty : WFM registered 13M shares for sale
[06:52 am] doji : CHKP
[06:53 am] joeytsa : all out CRM
[06:53 am] doji : KBH turned up… too late
[06:53 am] rusty : INHX hod[06:55 am] joeytsa : vix sitting at 22.49
[06:55 am] joeytsa : not sure i understand that one
[06:57 am] joeytsa : 5min to existing home sales
[06:57 am] derns : RIMM continues to look weak..short with a stop above breakeven
[06:57 am] rusty : Analyst out negative on RIMM
[06:57 am] rusty : fair value $10
[06:58 am] Kris : $10 for the entire company?
[06:58 am] doji : CHKP
[06:58 am] joeytsa : where we they when RIMM was tap dancing at $70?
[06:58 am] doji : Not for RIMM and NFLX together Kris
[06:58 am] rusty : but $10 for its ip etc[06:59 am] doji : out 1/4 INTC S
[06:59 am] joeytsa : be careful with your open positions with news getting ready to come out
[06:59 am] doji : CHKP slowly turning up
[07:00 am] rusty : RIMM analysts http://www.streetinsider.com/rating_history.p hp?q=rimm
[07:00 am] joeytsa : increased 4%???
[07:00 am] doji : SPY new lod[07:00 am] skydiver : moving stop down again RIMM
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: existing homes sales up 4%
[07:01 am] anthonyb : where is your stop sky?
[07:01 am] joeytsa : interesting mike…all i hear is about people losing homes
[07:01 am] skydiver : 13.56
[07:01 am] derns : previous home sales revised down…deeper than what we thot[07:01 am] anthonyb : 13.78 for me
[07:02 am] doji : It says down Mike
[07:02 am] doji : Derns[07:02 am] skydiver : good stop price anthony[07:02 am] joeytsa : i hope you all have been playing CRM whack-a-mole today 🙂
[07:03 am] joeytsa : not sure how much more there is on it though
[07:03 am] anthonyb : i want to give it a little room, if it goes above that 3min bar at 9:51, I don’t want to be short anymore
[07:03 am] apple : no, but i should and will..
[07:04 am] doji : CHKP watching no time to wait…
[07:05 am] joeytsa : CRM sitting near 52wk lows
[07:05 am] khall : yes, thanks Mitch. And I’m in GMCR
[07:05 am] khall : out half
[07:06 am] apple : yes, thx, out half as well
[07:06 am] rusty : Sterne Agee places a Buy on General Motors (GM) with a $36 price target.
[07:06 am] dan : CVLT bouncing
[07:09 am] mikewd2 -: any news on CVLT?
[07:10 am] jsn13 : The bounces seem to be pretty weak today…..
[07:12 am] rusty : WLT radar
[07:13 am] doji : SPY moving slowly up
[07:16 am] joeytsa : AMZN lost $180
[07:16 am] derns : NFLX
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: been stopped twice on CVLT
[07:18 am] joeytsa : the ES has moved up 5pts since top of the hour
[07:18 am] joeytsa : look for weak stocks to short
[07:19 am] apple : good idea joey, that’s what i have been trying to do…
[07:19 am] joeytsa : the easy money is on the downside so far, at least for me
[07:21 am] mhaus : Kris, are you still holding ILMN?
[07:21 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on QLIK
[07:21 am] mikewd2 -: your right joey
[07:22 am] joeytsa : market trending up last 20 minutes..look for those that are struggling
[07:22 am] fxbo : both FTNT & TLEO are bear trap
[07:23 am] derns : Joey..are you suggesting a turn? if so, RIMM remains weak…feels like its waiting for a reason to drop more
[07:24 am] joeytsa : just saying when the market turns down…those stocks that didn’t move up or moved up weakly will most likely fall first
[07:24 am] fxbo : long FTNT
[07:24 am] joeytsa : the ones that did move up well, might give decent profits too..if they ran up to res levels and then turned over
[07:24 am] derns : that’s what i thot…I continue to be short RIMM
[07:24 am] skydiver : me too derns – 🙂
[07:25 am] joeytsa : tighten stop on AMZN if you shorted
[07:25 am] mikewd2 -: joey, you short on CRM?
[07:25 am] joeytsa : not yet
[07:25 am] skydiver : I went Long on CRM 94.93 – let me know when you guys short it
[07:25 am] joeytsa : CRM made a nice strong move
[07:26 am] joeytsa : gonna have to prove itself to me 1 way or the other now
[07:26 am] joeytsa : AMZN is the easy money right now
[07:26 am] joeytsa : for me
[07:27 am] skydiver : tight stop on CRM
[07:27 am] joeytsa : to me RIMM is like watching paint dry
[07:27 am] skydiver : yes – drying very slow
[07:27 am] mikewd2 -: SINA
[07:28 am] joeytsa : that’s why i didn’t play it
[07:28 am] skydiver : I’m still in RIMM, but just check it once in awhile
[07:28 am] joeytsa : if you have stops set, then you are fine
[07:28 am] skydiver : yes
[07:30 am] skydiver : CRM is treating me good this morning
[07:30 am] joeytsa : nice, i didn’t take that long..hit it short 3 times
[07:30 am] joeytsa : very impressing up move though
[07:30 am] skydiver : I would not have looked at it, but you brought it up and went for it Long
[07:31 am] Ed : it put in nice bottom, crm[07:31 am] joeytsa : it’s on my daily watch the past few weeks
[07:31 am] Ed : nice trade sky
[07:31 am] joeytsa : yeah ed[07:31 am] joeytsa : i missed that higher low around 7:10pst
[07:32 am] joeytsa : i agree kris..repeat after me ” all stocks are equally worthless” 🙂
[07:32 am] skydiver : out 1/2 crm[07:32 am] khall : it’s a sugar daddy kind of love. As long as we get what we want from them, we love them. When we don’t, we find another one!
[07:33 am] joeytsa : finally stopped out on AMZN 🙂
[07:34 am] skydiver : all out of CRM
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on CRM short – not my day!!
[07:42 am] apple : not mine either…
[07:43 am] rusty : VIX sure acting strange
[07:43 am] anthonyb : yep, I’ve had 2 full losses already
[07:43 am] anthonyb : I’m holding some winners though,….
[07:44 am] rusty : BIDU lod[07:44 am] Ed : take short break, regroup and focus on the now trade, in other words don’t look back and hang hat on errors but learn from them
[07:44 am] apple : i will, thx E
[07:45 am] anthonyb : good advice ED
[07:45 am] Brent : well said
[07:45 am] Ed : thx Brent
[07:49 am] skydiver : just got back from a short break – sorry mikewd2 – didn’t know I was going against you on CRM.
[07:50 am] mikewd2 -: np, sky
[07:51 am] skydiver : I think of us as a team – encouraging and pushing us forward to lots of wins
[07:52 am] mikewd2 -: i would like just one win today! lol[07:53 am] mikewd2 -: now CRM wants to go down.
[07:54 am] apple : EMR was good mike
[07:54 am] michael : you got stuck in consolidation mikewd2, stinks when that happens
[07:54 am] rusty : putting VXX on radar for a swing
[07:54 am] mikewd2 -: had a bit too tight stop
[07:55 am] rusty : hope they push the vix down even further
[07:55 am] mikewd2 -: i’ve been watching VXX, could be a good play
[07:56 am] rusty : when everyone gets happy it’s time to buy the vix[07:58 am] qwert : kris thx for ftnt and tleo[07:58 am] skydiver : just got stopped out of my last 1/4 in RIMM
[07:59 am] skydiver : S RIMM 13.91 – 13.61 – 13.58 – pocket change, but in the bucket
[07:59 am] qwert : nice sky
[08:00 am] apple : good job sky
[08:00 am] skydiver : thanks
[08:01 am] skydiver : Paid for Christmas today 🙂
[08:01 am] qwert : that’s awesome sky
[08:02 am] skydiver : Now just have to keep in the zone mentally – that’s my biggest challenge it seems
[08:02 am] qwert : have you read trading in the zone
[08:03 am] skydiver : yes qwert – great book – helps a lot —
[08:03 am] qwert : i love that book would suggest it to anybody that’s a trader
[08:03 am] apple : i am a consistently successful trader…
[08:03 am] rusty : congrats apple
[08:04 am] skydiver : Great apple – that’s a good chant 🙂
[08:04 am] apple : it’s from the book…
[08:06 am] qwert : anybody short bidu wow
[08:06 am] anthonyb : ES lod[08:08 am] anthonyb : a meltdown right now would be nice
[08:09 am] rusty : SIFY radar
[08:10 am] rusty : CHKP lod[08:10 am] rusty : SIFY running
[08:10 am] rusty : sudden volume
[08:11 am] mikewd2 -: Sify Technologies moves up on renewed takeover chatter
[08:13 am] anthonyb : FSLR putting up a fight
[08:18 am] derns : AMZN
[08:35 am] rusty : TLT radar
[08:35 am] qwert : anybody trade ctas today
[08:35 am] rusty : Analyst upgrades RIMM to hold
[08:35 am] apple : no qwert, did u
[08:36 am] qwert : no i jst noticed it though surprised i never saw it on my scanner
[08:37 am] apple : nice run
[08:37 am] dan : any suggestion when day trading account is under minimum requirement?
[08:38 am] anthonyb : don’t switch to futures
[08:38 am] michael : how far under Dan?
[08:39 am] joeytsa : dan: might have to switch to swinging trades and being even more careful with the trades you pick?
[08:39 am] dan : 5k under Mike
[08:40 am] derns : short RIMM a small amount with tight stop
[08:40 am] Ed : check with broker, think ur allowed 3 trades in 5 day week, or some think like that
[08:40 am] joeytsa : something like that ed…
[08:41 am] joeytsa : 3 day clearance on money?
[08:41 am] michael : some actually lock you out, I’ve heard
[08:41 am] apple : i think so
[08:41 am] Brent : yes, but I think you have to have your broker reset your day trader status. I think you are allowed 1 reset per 6months
[08:41 am] joeytsa : yeah, if you get locked out..last i remember is that it’s for 90 days
[08:41 am] dan : I am with TDameritrade[08:42 am] derns : joey…check out AMZN
[08:42 am] joeytsa : it’s on 3 charts haha[08:42 am] joeytsa : whack whack whack[08:42 am] apple : nice AMZN
[08:42 am] apple : marching
[08:43 am] khall : march on AMZN, march on
[08:43 am] joeytsa : the ES definitely in that 1225-1235 range
[08:43 am] anthonyb : I have the same kind of short running with ADBE. Just riding it down…
[08:44 am] mikewd2 -: CRM getting some volume
[08:44 am] joeytsa : nice Anthony…you adding to it or just riding what you have?
[08:44 am] rusty : CRM gets volume at highs and lows
[08:45 am] anthonyb : only one entry joey I’m not very good at adding
[08:45 am] joeytsa : down up down up
[08:45 am] joeytsa : on CRM
[08:45 am] apple : rollercoaster
[08:45 am] joeytsa : what was your entry anthony[08:46 am] anthonyb : 27.98
[08:46 am] joeytsa : was that on the way down or on that pop around 7:15pst
[08:47 am] joeytsa : either way..nice[08:47 am] anthonyb : on the pop after the break of yesterdays low
[08:47 am] anthonyb : just under the 20ema
[08:47 am] joeytsa : you made the right decision to not add…support was too close
[08:48 am] anthonyb : if I took the break down, I would have added there anyway
[08:48 am] joeytsa : VMW legging down
[08:50 am] thomasohana : how many platforms do u use joey?
[08:50 am] joeytsa : pandozzi: who do you trade with?
[08:50 am] joeytsa : thomasohana: for my day trading/scalping i use lightspeed….
[08:51 am] joeytsa : have a few other platforms for other accounts also..i keep everything separate..not sure if it’s smart, but it works so far
[08:52 am] joeytsa : im going thru ls for esignal…now i just have to trade 250k shares/month and i get it free 🙂
[08:53 am] joeytsa : watching CRM again
[08:53 am] lightning : joey, is that esignal deal thru Lightspeed?
[08:54 am] joeytsa : yeah lightning…haven’t fully checked it out yet though
[08:54 am] rusty : SINA lod[08:55 am] lightning : Joey, I haven’t heard about that deal, but if it is true, I need to call them!
[08:55 am] willm : I’m watching DSW but don’t know what signal to enter. Help
[08:55 am] pandozzi : joey i use schwab[08:55 am] aussie123 : Insiders have been jumping ship in CRM
[08:55 am] lightning : I get e-signal at a 25% discount, and then get my futures quotes for free through esignal when I linked to my futures broker.
[08:55 am] joeytsa : go to lightspeed homepage, click tools and education on top, then stock scanning link in the online trading partners box
[08:56 am] lightning : the 25% discount was through Lightspeed….ok I’ll go to their homepage. Thanks.
[08:56 am] joeytsa : which schwab pandozzi? sse/ssp?
[08:56 am] joeytsa : click on the esignal tab, it’s like the 2nd to last paragraph
[08:56 am] pandozzi : streetsmart edge
[08:57 am] joeytsa : i like sse, much better than ssp[08:57 am] pandozzi : me to man
[08:57 am] joeytsa : i use it for charts
[08:57 am] joeytsa : i like the way you can detach the pages to separate monitors
[08:57 am] joeytsa : only thing i hate is you can only have 8pgs/20charts
[08:58 am] pandozzi : yes I’m learning with the new system as i trade.
[08:58 am] joeytsa : that’s what i will be doing the rest of the year
[08:58 am] lightning : joey, I see…for each month you trade 250,000 shares you get it for free. I’ve got to see how many shares I trade!
[08:58 am] joeytsa : i won’t use sse on the new setup..keep it on my current one
[08:58 am] Mitch K: how do you like the edge pandoz[08:58 am] mikewd2 -: DSW turning over
[08:58 am] joeytsa : it’s a decent platform mitch[08:58 am] joeytsa : charting is much better than lightspeed[08:59 am] joeytsa : lightspeed pivot points are way off for some reason
[08:59 am] scalpman : DSW S @ 44.25
[08:59 am] joeytsa : but the funny thing is, that they are still fairly accurate…must be a lot of ls users
[08:59 am] pandozzi : I’ve tried a few and seem to like it the best
[08:59 am] mikewd2 -: nice scalp
[09:00 am] rusty : U.S. SUES TO BLOCK EXELON ACQUISITION OF CONSTELLATION ENERGY
[09:00 am] anthonyb : wow scalp. entry with a scalpel
[09:00 am] rusty : U.S. SUES TO BLOCK EXELON ACQUISITION OF CONSTELLATION ENERGY
[09:00 am] joeytsa : CEG
[09:00 am] Mitch K: scalpman, you are on virtual trading still?
[09:01 am] rusty : CEG ALERT
[09:01 am] Mitch K: remember that the virtual trading platforms usually take the last trade, not the true price you would get. virtual gets better pricing
[09:02 am] mhaus : US sues CEG
[09:02 am] mhaus : sues to block CEG’s acquisition of Exelon
[09:02 am] joeytsa : huge buyer at 35.82 on CEG
[09:02 am] thomasohana : Saw that joey
[09:03 am] lightning : halted
[09:03 am] scalpman : halted CEG
[09:03 am] michael : short CEG @ 37.15, thank you joey
[09:03 am] mhaus : sorry rusty. did not see your earlier post
[09:03 am] rusty : CEG near-term low ~34 from August
[09:03 am] khall : I’m short, but halted 🙂
[09:04 am] rusty : nice fill Michael
[09:04 am] willm : I shorted DSW
[09:04 am] joeytsa : re nice entry michael…hope it drops a ton for you
[09:05 am] michael : thank you Mitch, covered half but still half left
[09:05 am] joeytsa : these markets have just been nuts following them on the p&f charts
[09:06 am] michael : I’m good with what I have already joey, no pig here
[09:06 am] joeytsa : so many back and forth the past few months
[09:07 am] mikewd2 -: come on DSW fall
[09:07 am] michael : I wasn’t ready for a halt, my bad
[09:07 am] mikewd2 -: should be good for you michael
[09:07 am] derns : how long will CEG be halted for the circuit breaker?
[09:08 am] rusty : no opening time yet
[09:08 am] joeytsa : mike: if DSW loses support here you should get a nice fall
[09:08 am] derns : open
[09:08 am] rusty : CEG open
[09:08 am] mikewd2 -: still looking for first win today!
[09:08 am] lightning : wow
[09:08 am] joeytsa : but that was a strong up move
[09:08 am] pandozzi : ya think
[09:08 am] weston : wolf ,,,, CEG
[09:09 am] joeytsa : that was nuts
[09:09 am] khall : that hurt
[09:09 am] rusty : DJ DOJ Clears Exelon-Constellation Energy Merger, With Conditions
[09:09 am] pandozzi : that’s how ya go broke
[09:09 am] michael : it filled me @ 37
[09:09 am] rusty : sounds like DOJ is trading CEG
[09:09 am] scalpman : It appears the buys were ready to clobber the SHORTS
[09:09 am] khall : 37.75 fill here
[09:09 am] khall : I mean 37.35 – sorry
[09:10 am] anthonyb : wow, my heart jumped watching that, and I didn’t even trade it lol[09:10 am] joeytsa : EXC falling
[09:10 am] derns : CEG..I didn’t trade it, but that whole news thing doesn’t seem right
[09:10 am] apple : don’t laugh too hard, i bought CEG when i wanted to sell and still made over $500. lucky!
[09:11 am] michael : apple, some of my best trades have been mistakes. I’m best when I’m out of the equation
[09:11 am] thomasohana : nice job apple!
[09:11 am] apple : sold at 38.10
[09:12 am] anthonyb : you really should send that money to doji apple…
[09:12 am] joeytsa : AMZN lod[09:12 am] derns : nice intelligent trade apple..what skill!
[09:12 am] pandozzi : nice apple
[09:12 am] lightning : there’s enough bad luck in trading…you get to keep the good luck every once in a while.
[09:13 am] derns : joey..you still short AMZN?
[09:13 am] rusty : SWI radar
[09:13 am] joeytsa : i will give you 3 guesses..and the 1st 2 don’t count 🙂
[09:14 am] apple : missed EXC
[09:14 am] derns : perhaps AMZN is down because of the rumor it might buy RIMM..buy RIMM and your stock price tanks
[09:14 am] anthonyb : what’s your entry Amazon joey?
[09:14 am] joeytsa : possibly
[09:14 am] scalpman : What caused the CEG drop in the first place? anyone?
[09:15 am] anthonyb : fear scalpman[09:15 am] Kris : I think it was the news about the lawsuit
[09:15 am] rusty : headline scalpman[09:15 am] joeytsa : this time, 176.38
[09:15 am] mikewd2 -: volume dried up on DSW
[09:16 am] weston : is this mean … I should cover the position – DSW?
[09:16 am] mikewd2 -: don’t know, i’m short also
[09:16 am] joeytsa : DSW has support around 43.75
[09:17 am] willm : Any thought on DSW short?
[09:17 am] joeytsa : stopped on AMZN
[09:17 am] apple : interesting that CEG surpassed the drop
[09:17 am] joeytsa : yeah apple
[09:17 am] apple : i am skeptical
[09:18 am] pandozzi : I’m still short dsw 44.10
[09:18 am] apple : exc[09:18 am] mikewd2 -: i’m at 44.10 also
[09:18 am] apple : same with EXC
[09:18 am] joeytsa : EXC in a downtrend all month and now it wants to shoot higher?
[09:19 am] monster : ftnt interesting
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: i’m out DSW, mistake meant to move my stop, but entered limit.
[09:20 am] pandozzi : i stopped out at 44 too slow moving for me dsw[09:20 am] apple : S EXC 42.93
[09:20 am] joeytsa : PCLN looks don’t to me on the daily
[09:20 am] anthonyb : I just closed all short positions. I am now flat. I ended up losing 100 bucks for the day. Not bad considering. First losing day in a while. Take care everyone, see you tomorrow
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: made $13, first win today! haha[09:22 am] pandozzi : THOSE ARE SOME TOUGH CHARTS TO TRADE
[09:23 am] pandozzi : i hear that joey that’s where the cash is
[09:24 am] joeytsa : both taken and taken away though..bigger swings
[09:24 am] willm : Today is more interesting than the past 2 days. Something to do in the afternoon.
[09:24 am] derns : TZA approaching hod..may break 28
[09:24 am] joeytsa : willm: slow time right now usually
[09:25 am] rusty : IT radar
[09:25 am] joeytsa : the ES trying to hold 1225
[09:28 am] rusty : CHK lod[09:28 am] joeytsa : ES lost support
[09:29 am] joeytsa : needs a big push thru 1225 or next stop might be 1200
[09:29 am] pandozzi : mike don’t u hate when that happens dsw[09:29 am] joeytsa : WAG nice rebound off poor report
[09:29 am] weston : DSW gap down
[09:29 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[09:32 am] rusty : JEF downgraded by Whitney
[09:32 am] pandozzi : no lube on that one mike
[09:32 am] joeytsa : mike: what was your entry on DSW?
[09:32 am] mikewd2 -: 44.10
[09:32 am] mikewd2 -: was moving stop to 44.40, when it went as limit.
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: oh well
[09:33 am] joeytsa : oh yeah…i forgot about that limit
[09:33 am] pandozzi : look for the next one
[09:33 am] weston : I put limit 42, I hope it can hit
[09:33 am] joeytsa : was just looking at the chart…no way you got stopped
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: that’s what happens when you turn off the verification.
[09:34 am] joeytsa : and NO revenge trade Mike haha[09:34 am] mikewd2 -: nah, it was still a win. lunch money
[09:34 am] joeytsa : yeah i know…but i know you still want to put your foot on its throat 🙂
[09:35 am] rusty : CTXS radar
[09:36 am] apple : nice trip down on CTXS
[09:39 am] pandozzi : wfm lod[09:41 am] joeytsa : strong area for them today pandozzi[09:41 am] pandozzi : ya i went long
[09:41 am] joeytsa : nice, esp if it breaks the 68.25 pivot
[09:42 am] pandozzi : 68
[09:42 am] richard : Watching TDC
[09:43 am] rusty : CTXS bounce
[09:43 am] joeytsa : OPEN up tick
[09:43 am] rusty : watch for short
[09:45 am] rusty : INCY sudden spike
[09:47 am] rusty : DLTR hod[09:47 am] weston : I think i really got problem with TOS
[09:47 am] weston : super slow exc[09:48 am] apple : no kidding weston[09:48 am] weston : two them this morning took 25 sec
[09:48 am] weston : and I give up
[09:50 am] michael : BIDU, AMZN, LULU trying to bottom
[09:52 am] rusty : INCY retreating
[09:52 am] michael : would a been buying, now I’ll wait for them to test support
[10:00 am] joeytsa : nice uptrend on the ES last 30 minutes
[10:03 am] rusty : Dow would be positive if not for IBM
[10:04 am] joeytsa : that’s the prob with the Dow
[10:04 am] joeytsa : cap-weighted
[10:20 am] joeytsa : if CRM can break above $98 it might try to run
[10:25 am] rusty : DCTH worth putting on radar…up without news
[10:26 am] rusty : HGSI Jan effect play hod[10:28 am] willm : NKE chart for trade?
[10:29 am] Ed : not a lot of money in trade willm[10:30 am] apple : that CEG chart was something, just took another look at it!
[10:34 am] apple : VMW lod[10:35 am] rusty : SINA new lod[10:35 am] apple : SINA lod[10:37 am] willm : What is lod? What to do with VMW and SINA?
[10:37 am] willm : I missed NKE short
[10:38 am] apple : low of day
[10:38 am] weston : shot NKE 96.9
[10:38 am] willm : Then it means to long SINA? Its going up
[10:39 am] apple : no, it just means low of day
[10:39 am] mikewd2 -: just a note that SINA is lod, nothing really implied.
[10:41 am] Ed : willm, i passed on nke bcuz it was not enough money for me, i would be looking for at least 1% so nothing for me
[10:41 am] pandozzi : joey what a ya think about the wfm chart? I’m in at 68 2500 shares
[10:41 am] willm : Yes Ed, I tried to place short order but it was not filled
[10:42 am] willm : Just trying to trade
[10:43 am] Ed : u should never trade for sake of trading, better to give money to charity instead, just saying
[10:43 am] apple : you are so right, E
[10:43 am] joeytsa : it’s coming into res
[10:44 am] joeytsa : just don’t let it turn into a loss
[10:44 am] Ed : u want to have an edge, or high probability of trade working in ur favor
[10:44 am] willm : Got it Ed. I come to TSA to learn trading. So I want to practice. That’s all Ed
[10:44 am] joeytsa : double bottom around 67.85, in-between pivot/S1
[10:44 am] pandozzi : i got stop now 68.10
[10:44 am] joeytsa : can’t lose
[10:45 am] pandozzi : just making small scores this afternoon
[10:45 am] Ed : u definitely came to right place
[10:45 am] joeytsa : if you stop and it break thru, you can always get back in
[10:45 am] pandozzi : good point joe[10:45 am] apple : wilim, are you trading real $?
[10:46 am] joeytsa : your entry is right between those 2 areas
[10:46 am] joeytsa : break above might run 50cents, break below down $1?
[10:46 am] eyeoverpyramid : tso shorting nicely
[10:46 am] willm : paper trade and some small $. In the red so far
[10:47 am] thomasohana : willm you should read “Technical Analysis of Financial Markets” by John Murphy. When I first started, Kris suggested that to me and the book literally blew my mind. Things made much more sense thereafter.
[10:47 am] apple : best to paper trade first so you won’t lose too much money
[10:47 am] willm : OK I will
[10:50 am] eyeoverpyramid : covered tso timely
[10:51 am] pandozzi : go wfm[10:52 am] willm : Yeah Pandozzi, me too.
[10:53 am] willm : Hey Ed NKE moving up
[10:53 am] willm : Is it tradable now?
[10:54 am] mikewd2 -: WFT new hod[10:55 am] thomasohana : i thought you wrote WTF mike lol[10:57 am] pandozzi : will..nice i set stop at 68.30
[10:57 am] Ed : not for me willm[10:57 am] willm : Got it Ed
[10:59 am] Ed : matter of preference, it has given moves both ways for measly .20 or .30, but I want more and am willing to wait for it. as .20 to .30 is not a lot on $97 stock
[11:02 am] willm : Is it called SPY consolidating right now?
[11:03 am] willm : To break out upward
[11:09 am] rusty : STZ radar
[11:10 am] willm : SPY another consolidation?
[11:11 am] doji : STZ is at the 200 SMA in the daily Rusty
[11:12 am] lightning : I was just studying away on charts and thought I’d check
[11:13 am] lightning : have an oil trade on so I wasn’t just sitting around!
[11:14 am] pandozzi : where did you learn the oil trades
[11:15 am] lightning : I paper traded for a long time looking for a setup that works for me. I started with a TSA oil trading video that they sell.
[11:16 am] joeytsa : the CL makes some nice moves at times
[11:16 am] lightning : it does. I’m short at 9902, covered 1/2 already.
[11:17 am] joeytsa : haven’t followed it the past couple days
[11:17 am] joeytsa : nice ed[11:18 am] pandozzi : thx light im gonna look into that
[11:18 am] pandozzi : what hours can you trade oil
[11:19 am] pandozzi : is it by contract?
[11:19 am] lightning : pandozzi, yes. 1 contract = 1000 barrels.
[11:19 am] joeytsa : lightning..do you ever trade the QM?
[11:19 am] lightning : only stocks and oil. What’s the QM?
[11:20 am] mikewd2 -: wish google would just buy IDCC, tired of the rumors
[11:20 am] rusty : IDCC radar
[11:20 am] pandozzi : thx light. i loved oil short at 100..
[11:21 am] pandozzi : QM?
[11:21 am] rusty : IDDD patent infringement news
[11:21 am] rusty : IDCC
[11:21 am] joeytsa : QM is the emini crude
[11:21 am] qwert : thx ed for idcc awesome!!!!
[11:22 am] rusty : ITC decides to investigate LG infringement of IDCC patents
[11:22 am] rusty : out few minutes ago
[11:22 am] mhaus : TDC
[11:22 am] thomasohana : Ed what’d you mean by “advanced trade”, special strategy?
[11:22 am] mikewd2 -: good for IDCC
[11:22 am] eyeoverpyramid : got my quick 1% on IDCC
[11:23 am] doji : He means this is a quick trade, with high risk but also high potential reward Thomas
[11:23 am] doji : Need a quick connection and the right platform
[11:23 am] doji : An its’ a NASDAQ stock that correct faster than the NYSE stocks
[11:24 am] thomasohana : got it, thanks doji[11:25 am] Ed : so it’s best to trade the news trades like that on virtual until u get hang of them
[11:25 am] lightning : covered second 1/2 of oil.
[11:25 am] Brent : good one Eddie
[11:25 am] eyeoverpyramid : Ed how do you do that? Which news source?
[11:25 am] thomasohana : makes sense, thx Ed.
[11:26 am] eyeoverpyramid : Ed and Brent did you get it from PR NEWS?
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: TDC
[11:26 am] Ed : scanner
[11:27 am] doji : CHKP approaching lod[11:27 am] eyeoverpyramid : Ed may I ask which scanner,?
[11:27 am] Ed : on idcc, it just so happens i was looking at stock and notice vol. was picking up
[11:28 am] eyeoverpyramid : was it from trade ideas?
[11:28 am] willm : Do it again Ed, 2 -4 times a day
[11:29 am] eyeoverpyramid : Ed it was so short yet sweet. But which scanner. Is it OK to ask
[11:29 am] doji : If I can add something, on those quick trades, on the 1min chart I wait for the volume the peak, then wait for the second minute to confirm the previous one was the top volume and on min 3min I jump into the trade…obviously you need to see the stock reverses the trend
[11:30 am] doji : I jump into the trade at minute 3
[11:30 am] Ed : i use volatility scanner, high/low scanner and just by checking put charts through day
[11:30 am] mhaus : VMW
[11:31 am] eyeoverpyramid : thx Ed, care to tell which scanner product/
[11:33 am] lightning : i don’t know what Ed uses, but on my Lightspeed ticker alert, which shows new highs and new lows of the day, IDCC came up about about 30 times in a row. That’s what I keep an eye out for.
[11:33 am] eyeoverpyramid : I’m understanding that now. Thx apple.
[11:33 am] doji : I don’t have a scanner but if I had one, the way to find these stocks would be for accelerated price and accelerated volume
[11:33 am] joeytsa : lightning, have you tried madscan or trade ideas?
[11:34 am] doji : SPY at trendline support
[11:34 am] joeytsa : pandozzi: did you raise your stop on WFM?
[11:35 am] lightning : I use Trade-Ideas before the market opens to look for consolidating stocks (it’s free) but that’s it. I’m going to get Trade-Ideas when I get a new computer. I’m concerned that all the charts + Lightspeed + futures broker + Trade-Ideas may be one too many applications.
[11:36 am] joeytsa : probably depends on the computer
[11:36 am] joeytsa : some computers actually run faster with more stuff going
[11:36 am] lightning : yep, but mine is a five year old laptop that I have two other monitors connected to.
[11:36 am] thomasohana : does any how a VWAP indicator for ninja trader?
[11:36 am] joeytsa : gotya[11:36 am] mhaus : Lightining, it would depend a lot on your graphics card
[11:37 am] mhaus : most of the analysis is done on the server and displayed on your computer
[11:37 am] lightning : I agree mhaus, but I’ve checked into it. I have 1 1GM graphics card and 2GB ram.
[11:37 am] Ed : they are scanners i setup in tradestation, 1 has volatility, the other high/low no secret
[11:37 am] mhaus : run the task manager and see the CPU usage
[11:38 am] joeytsa : i have 8 scans running, but only rely on 3 of them for the most part
[11:38 am] mhaus : increase your RAM to 3GB id you are using a 32bit system or to 6gb if you are using a 64bit system
[11:38 am] lightning : good idea mhaus. It looks like it runs from 25% to 50% while I’m not doing anything.
[11:39 am] mhaus : I am running a dual core 2GHz computer with 3GB memory and I am running Ninja, Interactive brokers, TradeIdeas and the TSA forum
[11:40 am] lightning : maybe that’s the ticket until I get a new computer. Thanks.
[11:40 am] mhaus : my computer is an old one with a good graphics card
[11:40 am] mhaus : got the computer for $125 and the video card for $200
[11:41 am] lightning : lol…now that’s a good investment!
[11:41 am] lightning : I asked Santa for a falcon computer like Joey
[11:41 am] apple : that guy knows a bargain
[11:41 am] mhaus : NFLX moving
[11:43 am] pandozzi : joey kept moving stop I’m still in wfm[11:44 am] joeytsa : good job pandozzi, you should be golden on that trade
[11:44 am] willm : Brent PRGO staying there
[11:44 am] doji : Thomas, ask Kris, he has the application you have to upload in Ninja to run the VWAP as far as I remember
[11:45 am] Brent : yeah, not interested in PRGO here willm[11:45 am] mhaus : CTXS
[11:47 am] derns : Obama shops at Best Buy..does that mean we should short it?
[11:50 am] willm : Brent PRGO moving down slowly
[11:50 am] derns : IWM move up indicates there are buyers out there, but RIMM and AMZN appear to be weakening
[11:50 am] joeytsa : NTES dropping a bit
[11:52 am] joeytsa : not sure how much is there..steady downtrend all day though
[11:53 am] joeytsa : yeah derns, AMZN is a dog
[11:54 am] Ed : u still short joey
[11:54 am] joeytsa : i really thought they would be doing good this time a year
[11:54 am] joeytsa : no ed, i got out earlier..didn’t get back in
[11:54 am] Ed : pays not to be a pig, got out of sina yesterday
[11:55 am] apple : smart E, followed your advice, but wished i had shorted it today…
[11:55 am] Ed : next time
[11:55 am] joeytsa : only need to be a pig when its going your way 🙂
[11:56 am] doji : Hey, I just open my book “Trading in the Zone” I ordered… will start to read it tonight
[11:57 am] Ed : guaranteed to enjoy
[11:57 am] apple : heck, if you think you’re good now… just wait!
[11:59 am] joeytsa : PRGO getting interesting to me
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : just not sure which way
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : 5/15ma both sitting on R1 and on the up trendline[12:01 pm] derns : Joey..PRGO is near its all time high…would you play a break out or resistance and pull back if the market fades? I am just following and learning..want to understand your thots[12:02 pm] joeytsa : i wasn’t even looking at the daily..thanks for reminding me
[12:03 pm] derns : well..for that, if you trade and make $, give me an “atta boy”
[12:04 pm] joeytsa : PRGO daily: triple top, so it need a big push to new 52hi…so if a long, then start small and wait for a pullback to support to add on
[12:04 pm] derns : for our good friend joey, sharing of his insight is pay day enough
[12:04 pm] joeytsa : where do you send the check derns haha[12:04 pm] apple : we all help one another, thx is enough…
[12:05 pm] derns : you bet apple…and I seem to get more than I add..so thx to all for sharing opportunities and rationale for their trades
[12:05 pm] doji : Well said Apple… I am always paid with Doji Dollars
[12:05 pm] joeytsa : i just wish i trusted this market
[12:05 pm] apple : trust yourself
[12:09 pm] doji : Aggh missed FTNT short
[12:10 pm] thomasohana : yes mitch i did
[12:10 pm] apple : of course, we have designer shoes…
[12:12 pm] Ed : was doing research
[12:12 pm] apple : joey, thx for NTES
[12:12 pm] mhaus : should watch AEP tomorrow
[12:12 pm] thomasohana : yes thx joey for that
[12:14 pm] mikewd2 -: CRM
[12:14 pm] derns : any news making the market move?
[12:14 pm] doji : The SPY is moving
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : countrywide settlement?
[12:15 pm] doji : Hey Rusty, BO to shut down solar unit as industry struggles
[12:16 pm] doji : paint well for FSLR short
[12:16 pm] thomasohana : i work for a solar company it is struggling
[12:16 pm] rusty : bk and consolidation is good for FSLR
[12:16 pm] thomasohana : BAD
[12:16 pm] doji : Hey Thomas, I read that the $/watt is now at 1
[12:16 pm] thomasohana : it sure is
[12:16 pm] doji : Sorry man
[12:16 pm] thomasohana : cost on material wise
[12:17 pm] doji : My comment was generic, sorry
[12:17 pm] doji : CHKP moving up
[12:17 pm] rusty : only way for solars to get back up is with pricing…have to get rid of the excess
[12:18 pm] rusty : capacity
[12:18 pm] doji : SPY now positive for the day… it seems the market will finish positive
[12:18 pm] thomasohana : they have to stop misusing fed and state money too
[12:18 pm] rusty : right
[12:19 pm] rusty : government subsidies only works for military contractors
[12:19 pm] rusty : and petrol lobby doesn’t want solar or gas or any competition
[12:20 pm] joeytsa : lng might be the one to move
[12:24 pm] joeytsa : for lng i keep watching WPRT
[12:25 pm] joeytsa : lng=liquid natural gas, not long 🙂
[12:25 pm] rusty : Nat gas = cheap, plentiful and relatively clean
[12:25 pm] rusty : yet no one wants it
[12:26 pm] joeytsa : that’s why i like WPRT rusty
[12:26 pm] doji : Any idea why the market is moving now?
[12:27 pm] rusty : buyers doji[12:27 pm] joeytsa : if/when the vehicle change is made..they are the ones who make the engines..plus have a couple of nice deals with other companies
[12:27 pm] joeytsa : read that ups fleet is switching, plus cars with lng engines, the buyers get huge rebate
[12:28 pm] rusty : i am buying SQNS for January effect. No rush. Slow and easy.
[12:29 pm] michael : yhoo is yahooing
[12:29 pm] joeytsa : rusty: do you play the january effect both ways?
[12:30 pm] rusty : usually long only…unless a parabolic move occurs
[12:30 pm] joeytsa : stock only or options?
[12:30 pm] rusty : so many china cos on jan list
[12:31 pm] joeytsa : i mean overall, not SQNS per se
[12:31 pm] rusty : stock only
[12:31 pm] jsn13 : Joey thanks for ur NTES…..drop in the bucket….
[12:31 pm] joeytsa : nice jsn !!!
[12:31 pm] rusty : could use options but I don’t want to worry about time factor
[12:31 pm] derns : AMZN running
[12:31 pm] joeytsa : 3 month out, 75-80 delta
[12:32 pm] rusty : pls remember on Jan effect plays…do not put all your $ into one stock as much as you might be tempted. The technique works with a basket of stocks.
[12:32 pm] joeytsa : i see that derns, nice move
[12:32 pm] joeytsa : good reminder
[12:33 pm] rusty : RIMM was in the basket but yesterday’s rumor killed it
[12:33 pm] joeytsa : i always thought the jan effect was to sell the bad stocks and buy the good ones correct?
[12:34 pm] joeytsa : thinking that managers don’t want them on the books eoy[12:34 pm] doji : FTNT
[12:34 pm] joeytsa : or do i have that backwards
[12:34 pm] doji : resistance 1t 20
[12:35 pm] rusty : Tax loss selling brings about discount prices and there is often a natural rise/bounce in prices in Jan
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : right
[12:36 pm] rusty : works for market in general but i try to improve odds by looking for beaten down stocks that hopefully still have some value
[12:37 pm] derns : rusty..that makes sense to me, but I keep thinking the market run up over the past week is short covering…would that change your strategy?
[12:37 pm] joeytsa : makes sense
[12:37 pm] pandozzi : nice little run for wfm since my departure
[12:37 pm] joeytsa : VMW moving
[12:38 pm] rusty : any premature/fast run up in prices before eoy usually makes me take stock off the list
[12:38 pm] rusty : e.g. RIMM
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : yeah pandozzi, hit prev cl turned back a bit
[12:38 pm] rusty : I sold puts on RIMM the other day for Jan effect
[12:39 pm] apple : got out of NTES a little early
[12:39 pm] rusty : I bot INHX in the pennies a couple of years ago aury effect….and sold too soon of course
[12:39 pm] pandozzi : i got my stop set at 68.47 now
[12:39 pm] apple : more downside to VMW?
[12:39 pm] joeytsa : nice profit at worst for you
[12:40 pm] rusty : some of the Jan effect plays go up huge percent and some will not move at all or even go down
[12:40 pm] weston : anyone shorting YHOO?
[12:40 pm] joeytsa : hence the basket
[12:40 pm] rusty : aye
[12:41 pm] apple : but then, maybe not
[12:42 pm] rusty : http://www.siliconinvestor.com/subject.aspx?s ubjectid=58474 Jan effect thread, one of many
[12:42 pm] rusty : HGSI a good candidate
[12:44 pm] rusty : even BAC on the list
[12:45 pm] rusty : but I prefer cash rich low debt companies for my basket
[12:45 pm] rusty : usually establishes a floor in the price
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : good plan
[12:47 pm] joeytsa : CVLT making a dash
[12:47 pm] joeytsa : most likely too late to make a trade though
[12:48 pm] rusty : VIX and related etf’s collapsing
[12:48 pm] fxbo : I said FTNT was Bear trap this morning, now $20
[12:49 pm] fxbo : Out my long of FTNT
[12:49 pm] apple : good job fxbo[12:49 pm] joeytsa : nice trade fxbo[12:50 pm] willm : Doji, look at CVLT. I am trying to apply your tip as IDCC trade. Watching volume
[12:50 pm] derns : fxbo..good job on FTNT. What do you mean by a bear trap?
[12:51 pm] apple : that confused me, too. looks bullish
[12:51 pm] rusty : bears get excited that its going lower after they put paw in trap
[12:51 pm] mhaus : TRIP falling like a rock
[12:51 pm] fxbo : Bear trap: trap to kill the bear (opposite to bull short)
[12:52 pm] apple : good eye, willim, but too late in the day
[12:52 pm] derns : so you looked at it as a short head fake? After dropping, it rebounded with short covering?
[12:53 pm] rusty : SLAB radar
[12:53 pm] joeytsa : FTNT to me was more of a stock than went from a clear downtrend to a clear uptrend
[12:53 pm] rusty : never mind SLAB
[12:54 pm] joeytsa : it all depends on the chart you look at i guess
[12:54 pm] apple : i have the 3 min up – turned at about noonish[12:55 pm] joeytsa : yeah apple, on the 8/21 it’s a tale of 2 trades 🙂
[12:55 pm] joeytsa : no matter how you see it, or call it…good trade by fxbo !!!
[12:56 pm] willm : Doji I short CVLT on 3:53 pm but it still going up
[12:56 pm] fxbo : I have to thank someone here for his call of sf short FTNT, but I thought opposite so I I went long this morning.
[12:57 pm] doji : Hey Will, I don’t remember calling for a trade in CVLT
[12:57 pm] apple : agree joey
[12:57 pm] doji : How do you identify a bear trap fxbo?
[12:58 pm] doji : just curious
[12:58 pm] fxbo : just opposite of “bull short”
[12:58 pm] willm : Oh no Doji. I mean your tip on IDCC trade to watch volume to confirm the top. I applied it CVLT in paper trade
[12:59 pm] fxbo : FTNT was approaching support on daily chart, and I also watched other such as forex, bonds, for overall market
[12:59 pm] rusty : YHOO hod[01:00 pm] joeytsa : vix at 21.43
[01:00 pm] pandozzi : scalped 500 bucks yhoo at close
[01:00 pm] apple : thx MK, K, B, E and everyone. Had a fun day. all have a wonderful evening.
[01:01 pm] doji : Will, CVLT was moving up near to the close, that is not a good time to go long/short,
[01:01 pm] fxbo : good luck
[01:02 pm] apple : doji, that’s exactly what i said
[01:02 pm] doji : Well hope you can give more details tomorrow fxbo[01:03 pm] willm : Doji thank you I just trying to apply your tip
[01:04 pm] doji : no will, I think I should have been more specific, let’s continue the learning tomorrow
[01:04 pm] willm : OK see you
[01:05 pm] willm : As X’mas approaching, market will go as normal or what should we aware in our trades?
[01:06 pm] joeytsa : volume probably will dry up a bit
[01:10 pm] willm : Joey, our trades size should be smaller or as usual?
[01:11 pm] joeytsa : if you stick to the more liquid stocks it probably won’t matter
[01:11 pm] joeytsa : i won’t be trading much the next few days…
[01:12 pm] joeytsa : but if i do it will be on the bigger names
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