Chat Highlights From 12/20/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:08 am] Mitch K: you guys see that big drop in SI this morning?  silver futures
[06:09 am] Mitch K: over 100 tick drop in silver, thats $2500 per contract
[06:14 am] Mitch K: yes apple, ICE bot NYX for $33.12
[06:15 am] Mitch K: metals dropping because economy grew, market seeing a budget deal is close
[06:23 am] Mitch K: watching MDCO move up
[06:29 am] Ed : Conference started in NY, re: HLF
[06:31 am] Mitch K: monitoring HNZ
[06:31 am] Mitch K: monitoring AEE
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching MXIM for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching BBBY for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching PAYX for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching NDAQ for trades both ways
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching MDC for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching EQT for top
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching ET, TEG for top
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching NYX for bottom, should be decent long
[06:34 am] Ed : monitoring CTSH
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching CTSH for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching PII for top
[06:35 am] Mitch K: dont forget about NYX long scalp
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching MLNX for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching AUXL for bottom
[06:36 am] Mitch K: monitoring ACN
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching ILMN for bottom
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching TROX for bottom
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching YUM for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching TIF for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching RGLD for short on top of bounce, take time
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching CBS for top
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching  GBX for bottom
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching HLF for bottom
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching KORS for bottom
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching KORS closer, same with ACN
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching ICE for bounce, already started
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching DECK for bottom
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching BBBY closer
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching SODA for bottom
[06:43 am] Mitch K: take time
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching SLCA for bottom
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching RGR for bottom
[06:46 am] Ed : HLF currently trading in range
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching MHK for top
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching SODA closer
[06:52 am] Mitch K: monitoring MDC
[06:54 am] Mitch K: consider selling MLNX if long
[06:54 am] Mitch K: watch HNZ to cover if short
[06:58 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[06:59 am] Mitch K: monitoring ES for bottom
[06:59 am] Mitch K: CL, Crude oil cycling well
[06:59 am] Mitch K: excellent moves with 6E  Euro
[07:00 am] Mitch K: sorry
[07:00 am] Mitch K: wday
[07:00 am] Ed : GRPN monitor no hurry for potential short if we get some buying
[07:00 am] Mitch K: watching NG< Natural Gas for bottom, take time on this
[07:01 am] Mitch K: monitor
[07:01 am] Mitch K: HLF falling apart quickly
[07:01 am] Mitch K: monitoring WDAY, slow
[07:02 am] Ed : Im out 3/4 and trailing last 1/4 short on HLF
[07:02 am] Mitch K: watching WAC for sell point, gradually, best price
[07:02 am] Ed : If u shorted break of range would cover some here on HLF
[07:03 am] Ed : getting some short covering in this candle on HLF
[07:04 am] Mitch K: watching UNXL for bottom
[07:08 am] Ed : getting bounce in SPY
[07:11 am] Mitch K: no sell signal on ACN yet
[07:11 am] Mitch K: HLF turning over again
[07:12 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[07:14 am] Mitch K: buy signal in GC< Gold, late to see
[07:15 am] Mitch K: SI cover point too
[07:20 am] Ed : nice bounce in HLF
[07:21 am] Mitch K: should be out of the TIF long, turning over
[07:22 am] Ed : SPY pulling back
[07:22 am] Mitch K: watching NUS for bottom, not in hurry
[07:44 am] Ed : SPY trading near hod
[07:48 am] Ed : ET moving
[07:48 am] Ed : nice pullback in SPY
[08:24 am] Ed : Boehner will speak at 1:15
[08:42 am] Ed : Market close 1pm est on Mon (24th) and closed on tue (25th)
[09:17 am] Ed : Sen Reid speaking now
[09:27 am] Ed : good eye murano on SWC
[09:33 am] Mitch K: SI continues to cycle well, GC on  a bull run for an hour
[09:49 am] Ed : Ackman says he is not short other MLM firms
[09:50 am] Ed : he is only  short HLF
[09:58 am] Ed : monitorg VHC for potential bounce
[10:01 am] Ed : dont jump the gun on VHC
[10:06 am] Ed : reduced 3/4 ong of VHC
[10:11 am] Ed : Boehner will be up in 4minutes
[10:28 am] Ed : Ackamn says he has 20milion shares short out of 108m shares outstanding
[10:32 am] Ed : Hearing Barclays confirms earlier chatter that Roche is denying the earlier reports about an impending bid for ILMN (timing uncertain
[10:37 am] Ed : HLF new lod
[10:39 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[10:51 am] Mitch K: anyone watching SI ?  this is as good as it gets
[11:07 am] Ed : VHC halted
[11:50 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[12:06 pm] Ed : getting pullback in SPY
[12:17 pm] Mitch K: a speculative long swing is HLF, Herbal Life.  William Ackerman has been public about his shorting HLF the last few days.  A little safer play is to wait for lower prices Friday but my guess is today you can start nibbling
[12:35 pm] Ed : ISRG new lod
[12:41 pm] Ed : SPY testing hod
[12:58 pm] Mitch K: ok bye taco
[12:59 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders
[01:06 pm] Mitch K: bye guys, see you tomorrow

[06:08 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Mitch,Ed, traders
[06:09 am] joeytsa  : missed that, saw quick drop in PL though
[06:09 am] joeytsa  : jump in gold too
[06:09 am] qwert  : the CL is making nice moves
[06:09 am] lisas  : gm all,
[06:09 am] apple  : gm MK, yeah just saw that
[06:09 am] qwert  : wow thats huge
[06:10 am] apple  : good morning to all tough traders
[06:10 am] joeytsa  : nice payday :)
[06:10 am] apple  : gm qwert
[06:10 am] apple  : gm lisa
[06:10 am] apple  : gm joey
[06:10 am] apple  : gm E
[06:10 am] cowboyh  : Morning guys
[06:10 am] qwert  : gm apple
[06:10 am] apple  : gm cowboy
[06:10 am] reshef  : G.morning
[06:10 am] lisas  : gm apple
[06:10 am] joeytsa  : gap down: FOLD,MDRX,BBBY,MLNX,MRK
[06:11 am] cowboyh  : Mitch thanks for the aswing idea on RGR up 3 points so far
[06:11 am] apple  : good morning reshef
[06:11 am] taco  : gm apple, hi all
[06:12 am] cowboyh  : gm apple
[06:12 am] apple  : gm taco
[06:12 am] joeytsa  : gap up: ELOQ,ILMN,AAPL,VVUS
[06:12 am] mikewd2 -: AGQ down 3
[06:13 am] joeytsa  : a few others on m&a's
[06:14 am] apple  : heard ICEbought NYSE
[06:14 am] mikewd2 -: why silver/gold tanking?
[06:15 am] joeytsa  : $8.2B total
[06:15 am] taco  : thanks for gappers
[06:16 am] doji  : and oil up on the economy
[06:16 am] apple  : gm doji
[06:16 am] chinhngo  : good morning to all traders
[06:17 am] mikewd2 -: CCL
[06:17 am] apple  : gm chin
[06:18 am] mikewd2 -: keep eye on HLF
[06:19 am] eyes  : Good Morning Everyone
[06:19 am] joeytsa  : /PL is moving well today
[06:19 am] mikewd2 -: RCL
[06:19 am] apple  : gm eyes
[06:20 am] apple  : glad to have you back
[06:20 am] eyes  : thank you
[06:20 am] taco  : USNA also multi level and was down yesterday
[06:22 am] skydiver  : gm all
[06:22 am] apple  : gm sky
[06:22 am] doji  : Good monrning fellas... jsut connecting to say hi... have a nice trading day
[06:23 am] mikewd2 -: did CCL/RCL post earnings?
[06:23 am] skydiver  : gm apple
[06:23 am] skydiver  : take care doji
[06:23 am] joeytsa  : CCL did mike
[06:23 am] joeytsa  : or they do sometime today
[06:24 am] victor51  : good morning all. will be here in and out
[06:24 am] mikewd2 -: both been in nice uptrend
[06:24 am] apple  : gm victor
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : looks like both in downtrends to me?
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : lookin at wrong timeframes
[06:26 am] joeytsa  : yes up on daily
[06:29 am] apple  : thx E
[06:31 am] elisha  : GM Mitch, Ed and everyone
[06:31 am] joeytsa  : eye on BBBY,LULU
[06:33 am] joeytsa  : ILMN pulling back
[06:34 am] joeytsa  : watching CTSH for bottom
[06:35 am] cowboyh  : BIDU
[06:36 am] joeytsa  : nice 4pt move in /PL
[06:37 am] mikewd2 -: SINA
[06:38 am] joeytsa  : AAPL lod
[06:39 am] shawn  : has NFLX bottomed
[06:43 am] joeytsa  : tigthen ILMN if long
[06:44 am] shawn  : quick trade on NFLX. Made some cash
[06:46 am] apple  : good shawn
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : bunch of reports coming up at 7pdt
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : 2 big ones are existing home sales and philly fed
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : nice call Mitch on ACN
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : tighten BBBY if short
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : /ES in 4t range, slight downtrend
[06:49 am] mikewd2 -: Western Copper trading halted, pending news
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : 4pt not 4t
[06:50 am] Ed : thx mike
[06:52 am] joeytsa  : BBBY trying to gather itself
[06:54 am] joeytsa  : another bad day for ISRG
[06:55 am] joeytsa  : weak bounce on BBBY
[06:55 am] joeytsa  : trying to hold $55 though
[06:58 am] regatta  : EQT turning over
[06:58 am] joeytsa  : reports coming out next minute
[06:59 am] joeytsa  : same with /GC , /PL
[07:04 am] lisas  : taking off, have a great day all
[07:04 am] apple  : bye lisa, have fun
[07:04 am] joeytsa  : bye lisa lisa
[07:05 am] apple  : AAPL moved off lod
[07:05 am] joeytsa  : HLF nice short, BBBY rotten long haha
[07:07 am] taco  : bye lisa
[07:09 am] joeytsa  : watching LMT at $92
[07:11 am] joeytsa  : ACN testing $68 now
[07:12 am] joeytsa  : AGQ pullback to $43
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: i used it to cover the last Sell
[07:15 am] Mitch K: nice joey
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : /GC been trending down
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : so using lightning sell signals as entries
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : just got another sell signal there
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : might get a trend change coming soon though
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : there it is
[07:17 am] Ed : who was to remind us of the break of range on REGN that we talked about 2 weaks ago??
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : qwert  hahah
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : when in doubt blame him :)
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: joey i think
[07:18 am] qwert  : hey i said something about it the other day
[07:19 am] doji  : Back
[07:19 am] doji  : HEy Joey are you use Lightening for /GC?
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : yes doji
[07:20 am] doji  : For all futures?
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : right now; GC,PL,CL,NG and ES
[07:21 am] doji  : Ok, I'll post something in Faceboook this weekend...
[07:21 am] taco  : NUS getting better
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : ok cool
[07:22 am] joeytsa  : watching /GC for cons break
[07:25 am] joeytsa  : nice recovery on HLF
[07:27 am] Ed : ur right it was qwert
[07:27 am] qwert  : hahaha
[07:28 am] mikewd2 -: CCL lod
[07:29 am] doji  : Mike still keeping your swing trade on RGR?
[07:29 am] reshef  : CCL
[07:30 am] mikewd2 -: dumped it for decent profit
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : /NG action
[07:30 am] mikewd2 -: will look to get back in
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : break time, see you in a while, great calls..make some $$  :)
[07:33 am] shawn  : Ed: is NFLX a buy?
[07:34 am] taco  : looks toppy on daily shawn
[07:35 am] doji  : Hey Shwan don't get too obsese with NFLX.. It look weaks...and could drop more before jumping up... just be alittle be paitent
[07:35 am] shawn  : On the 2 Minute the Stochastic  is sure below 6
[07:35 am] shawn  : K thank you
[07:35 am] Ed : I agree with doji
[07:36 am] doji  : Of course you do Ed.. otherwise you are fired!.... hahahaha
[07:36 am] Ed : lol
[07:37 am] apple  : haha -- get back to work doji!
[07:38 am] apple  : BIDU made a nice move off the lod
[07:38 am] mikewd2 -: CCL
[07:41 am] apple  : HOT
[07:41 am] doji  : Nice on the 15m 15d Apple
[07:43 am] doji  : Hose to discusss Plan B today.... I'll assme that is why the market is moving
[07:43 am] doji  : House
[07:45 am] reshef  : FIO
[07:53 am] shawn  : anyone in NFLX
[07:56 am] doji  : Not me Shawn... don't see any leverage so far
[07:57 am] doji  : but that is only me...
[07:57 am] shawn  : Just made 200
[07:57 am] shawn  : Bang
[07:57 am] joeytsa  : just be careful trying to squeeze blood from a rock though
[07:57 am] shawn  : no kidding
[07:57 am] joeytsa  : good at first to get a feel for some stocks though
[07:58 am] joeytsa  : you seem to focus on NFLX,WYNN
[07:58 am] doji  : To make $200 you bough what, $500 shares?
[07:58 am] shawn  : 1000
[07:58 am] joeytsa  : once you get a feel for how stocks ebb/flow...then maybe focus on stocks with wider ranges etc
[07:59 am] cowboyh  : watching PLD
[07:59 am] doji  : so you put $93,000 to make $200... hum... too much risk for me
[08:00 am] shawn  : I agree Doji
[08:00 am] joeytsa  : i do that all the time
[08:00 am] doji  : lol
[08:00 am] joeytsa  : just cant allow yourself to take 20c profit while allowing $1 losses
[08:01 am] shawn  : Doji: your a pretty good trader
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: CCL lod
[08:01 am] joeytsa  : and stocks like NFLX,AAPL ect move to quick to keep that risk in any kind of control
[08:01 am] shawn  : I was going to take a Tight stop Joeytsa
[08:01 am] doji  : No Shawn... I am just trying to learn from the mistakes I was told other made... lol
[08:01 am] joeytsa  : haha
[08:01 am] shawn  : I was either going to make 200 or loose 200
[08:02 am] joeytsa  : right but like doji said...thats a terrible r/r
[08:02 am] doji  : I agree with you Joey 1000%... I used to do that and I lost big before
[08:02 am] shawn  : what is your email Doji?
[08:02 am] joeytsa  : at 1:1 you have to be right 50% just to break even
[08:03 am] mikewd2 -: ANF
[08:04 am] doji  : Shawn, a couple of days ago I made >$2,000 with one trade with NFLX... the r/r at that time was 1:4....
[08:04 am] joeytsa  : shawn: bare minimum, give yourself 2:1 r/r
[08:04 am] doji  : I riked 0.25c and got $2.25c
[08:04 am] eyes  : whats the symble for ES on TS
[08:04 am] doji  : since then I have just watched NFLX and still don;t see this setting again
[08:05 am] taco  : how did you know your risk was .25c? doji
[08:06 am] joeytsa  : where you put your stop taco
[08:07 am] doji  : Because it did a double bottom at previos day's resistance level and then I bought NFLX 0.25C above that level and the stocks just moved in my direction
[08:07 am] joeytsa  : thats what i like about futures, can make $200 with much less money up
[08:07 am] taco  : ty
[08:08 am] shawn  : thanks guys
[08:10 am] joeytsa  : good trading doji
[08:11 am] joeytsa  : the only thing you can control in this biz is your risk
[08:12 am] joeytsa  : /GC on nice downtrend past 20min
[08:13 am] joeytsa  : NFLX just had a nice $1 move
[08:13 am] joeytsa  : almost made to the res level
[08:14 am] eyes  : Joey whats the ticker for emini on TS
[08:14 am] eyes  : symble
[08:14 am] apple  : @ES
[08:15 am] joeytsa  : thx apple, i didnt know eyes
[08:16 am] eyes  : Thanks Apple
[08:16 am] apple  : H13
[08:16 am] reshef  : VHC
[08:20 am] reshef  : SFUM
[08:20 am] reshef  : SFUN
[08:21 am] taco  : nice reshef
[08:21 am] joeytsa  : just be careful with volume
[08:21 am] taco  : right
[08:22 am] joeytsa  : when i see 30% total vol on 2 candles, i usually move on..miss trades but thats ok with me
[08:22 am] reshef  : SNTS
[08:24 am] joeytsa  : thx Ed
[08:24 am] qwert  : thx Ed
[08:24 am] apple  : thx E
[08:24 am] joeytsa  : sending his plan B to the floor
[08:26 am] reshef  : TACO, DID YOU ENTER LONG ON SFUN?
[08:27 am] joeytsa  : AAPL lod
[08:27 am] taco  : no, i liked the % move but noticed low vol and heed suggestions
[08:28 am] reshef  : Look at SNTS
[08:29 am] reshef  : Taco, isn't better to wait to short?
[08:30 am] taco  : that's up to you reshef
[08:30 am] joeytsa  : also depends on your profit target
[08:31 am] reshef  : I mean as a simple idea, whats go long have retracement
[08:31 am] jsn13  : another thing to pay attention to, new 52 weeks high on daily....
[08:31 am] joeytsa  : always jsn
[08:32 am] joeytsa  : love 52wk highs, then slight pullback
[08:32 am] taco  : it depends reshef, out of my league to answer you well sorry
[08:32 am] jsn13  : so u have, low vol, new high, uptrending on daily, so usually u would only have slight pullback...so for me, low reward....
[08:32 am] reshef  : Joeytsa, what you lokking 52 W for short?
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : usually on a stock like SFUN, you might get a 20c scalp, but to make any money you need 1000shares, SFUN doesnt have that vol to me
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : i would never short a 52wk hi
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : not until it loses support i should say
[08:33 am] reshef  : Thanks
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : reverse for 52wk low
[08:34 am] jsn13  : i tried doing that last time, i think the win rate is below 20%...haha...
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : but thats on swings/holds..which is not what i am doing right now
[08:34 am] jsn13  : now i have learnt it the hard way.....
[08:34 am] reshef  : EXPE
[08:34 am] Ed : We all learned it that way jsn13
[08:35 am] joeytsa  : you might geta decent short on a 52wk high as a scalp though
[08:35 am] Ed : some are repeat offenders and some dont revisit
[08:35 am] joeytsa  : hey Ed, just so you know...the oven burner is hot  haha
[08:36 am] jsn13  : so just becareful when going against the trend...
[08:36 am] joeytsa  : i try to think " why is this stock trending?"
[08:37 am] joeytsa  : i dont ever look at fundamentals, so my answer is always the same " because people are either buying it or selling it"
[08:39 am] reshef  : DNB
[08:41 am] apple  : reminder:  half-day trading on monday - xmas eve
[08:41 am] joeytsa  : thats only if the world doesnt end tomorrow :)~
[08:41 am] apple  : correct
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : i wont be in the room next week except maybe friday
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : my world is ending..i have to fly to see the in-lawsw  hahaha
[08:42 am] apple  : we will miss you joey - haha
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : rigth Ed, wont expect much vol on the 26th either
[08:43 am] taco  : haha b-have
[08:43 am] apple  : where? ny?
[08:43 am] joeytsa  : worse apple..michigan
[08:43 am] qwert  : hahaha  mine are coming here at least you get to leave when you want
[08:43 am] apple  : snow!
[08:43 am] joeytsa  : none there right now or expected
[08:43 am] apple  : just wait -- snowed in, joey!
[08:44 am] joeytsa  : not bringing my laptops either, so no trading for me
[08:44 am] reshef  : DFS
[08:47 am] qwert  : Joey in case i forget have a very Merry Christmas
[08:49 am] cowboyh  : have a good day... all
[08:49 am] apple  : all together now:  JOEY HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
[08:49 am] apple  : bye cowboy have fun
[08:49 am] taco  : bye cowboy
[08:49 am] joeytsa  : thanks qwert, i will be here tommorrow though
[08:50 am] qwert  : Thats why i said in case i forget  :))
[08:50 am] apple  : and i would like everyone to have safe happy holidays... wishing everyone all the best for the upcoming year (lotsa $$$$) and perfect health and happines
[08:50 am] joeytsa  : will use my iphone for facebook, wife will have her laptop if i need to shoot out emails etc
[08:50 am] joeytsa  : Amen apple :)
[08:50 am] taco  : thanks apple, you too
[08:50 am] joeytsa  : gotta run for a bit, see you all for the last 90mins
[08:51 am] apple  : joey you are funny with that iphone now
[08:51 am] apple  : bye joey have fun
[08:51 am] joeytsa  : yeah, esp considering i never leave the house
[08:51 am] apple  : haha
[08:51 am] joeytsa  : i use my iphone for my music videos
[08:51 am] apple  : get a little sun and fresh air
[08:51 am] apple  : how did you ever survive this long without it, i wonder
[08:51 am] joeytsa  : did you see the last one apple?
[08:52 am] apple  : no, i got the samsung galaxy III
[08:52 am] apple  : and a samsung tablet as well
[09:01 am] reshef  : VVUS
[09:05 am] doji  : NFLX
[09:07 am] doji  : BIDU heading towards $100 again
[09:18 am] apple  : thx E
[09:25 am] murano  : SWC
[09:26 am] apple  : wow good one murano
[09:28 am] doji  : SWC s 12.63
[09:29 am] taco  : ya beat me doji, 12.61
[09:31 am] doji  : stop at b/e... don;t like how is acting
[09:32 am] taco  : sold 1/2
[09:33 am] doji  : out 1/2 SWC short
[09:33 am] taco  : i'm out
[09:34 am] taco  : thx murano
[09:37 am] doji  : Hey Muran, where do you get this stocks? Lightening?
[09:37 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: did you get that run on /GC ?
[09:40 am] jsn13  : ed, did u get SWC? if yes, may i know ur entries and exits?
[09:40 am] Ed : no did not trade it
[09:40 am] jsn13  : did u pass or miss?
[09:40 am] Ed : passed
[09:41 am] jsn13  : ok cool....
[09:41 am] jsn13  : thanks....
[09:41 am] Ed : still had setup and gave nice change, I just wanted move closer to 13
[09:41 am] murano  : Lightspeed ticker alert Doji
[09:41 am] Ed : b4 shorting
[09:42 am] jsn13  : ya i can see ur rationale....understand ur approach ed....thansk for the info....u explained b4 i asked....haha...
[09:42 am] joeytsa  : he read your mind jsn  haha
[09:42 am] Ed : we know each other well, haha
[09:43 am] doji  : Thanks Muran... I remember now that you said that before
[09:43 am] jsn13  : haha yeah....we can read each others' minds...
[09:43 am] joeytsa  : /ES in 2pt range
[09:44 am] joeytsa  : will look for a break over/under 1433/1431
[09:44 am] Ed : nice tight range
[09:44 am] joeytsa  : wide enough to scalp 2-3 ticks
[09:44 am] Ed : true
[09:45 am] joeytsa  : and tight enough that a break might give a good move
[09:45 am] Ed : truer
[09:45 am] joeytsa  : esp on fiscal news
[09:45 am] Ed : truest
[09:45 am] joeytsa  : truer than true..thanks dr. seuss  haha
[09:45 am] Ed : lol
[09:46 am] joeytsa  : boehner still speaking in 30min?
[09:46 am] Ed : yes
[09:46 am] apple  : SFUN really took off today, but low volume
[09:46 am] joeytsa  : if tight range still by then, just might strangle it
[09:49 am] reshef  : LQDT
[09:50 am] joeytsa  : funny how when worded differently it affects a company
[09:50 am] joeytsa  : mlm or network marketing is ok..pyramid is death :)
[09:52 am] reshef  : UA
[09:55 am] mikewd2 -: i thought Ackerman, said he had no position on HLF
[09:55 am] Ed : no options on it
[09:55 am] joeytsa  : he said he didnt have puts on it
[09:55 am] mikewd2 -: RIGHT
[09:55 am] apple  : don't you believe him? lol
[09:55 am] joeytsa  : hahaha
[09:56 am] Ed : yes, his wife has the put options
[09:56 am] joeytsa  : he said HE didnt have them, not sure about his family
[09:56 am] joeytsa  : "_
[09:56 am] apple  : right, but he doesn't
[09:56 am] apple  : let it snow...
[10:00 am] joeytsa  : if this guy was smart, he would have shorted it 9 months ago haha
[10:00 am] joeytsa  : then again, i would have too had i been smart :)
[10:01 am] mikewd2 -: Ackman says does not want to profit on Herbalife short position
[10:02 am] joeytsa  : RIGHT  hahaha
[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: what a crock
[10:03 am] reshef  : HLF
[10:04 am] joeytsa  : AAPL losing $520
[10:04 am] joeytsa  : testing i mean
[10:07 am] joeytsa  : real nice Ed, good call
[10:09 am] joeytsa  : /PL on another nice down move
[10:09 am] Ed : thx joey I learn from the best
[10:09 am] joeytsa  : yeah, that Mitch is pretty good :)
[10:10 am] scalpman  : Hi guys...Had business to attend to and couldn't trade...Darn this work is getting in the way of important stuff!
[10:10 am] jsn13  : ed, how did u handle vhc? did u short VHC on the way donw? and what was ur long entry signal?
[10:10 am] joeytsa  : nice trading setup video scalp
[10:11 am] taco  : nice to see you in your vid scalpman
[10:11 am] taco  : good vid too
[10:11 am] scalpman  : Thanks...joey, taco...
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : scalp: trade manager might help with your positions so you dont have to copy/paste into 2nd box
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : just guessing on that though
[10:12 am] scalpman  : I'll be trading tomorrow. I'll have to go...see you than. Glad you enjoyed it
[10:12 am] Ed : no did not get short, was away from price I would have like to short
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : also on TS charts, you can type in 2 then enter so switch to a 2min...bit of a shortcut
[10:12 am] scalpman  : Joey, I will check out trade manager
[10:13 am] scalpman  : thanks.
[10:13 am] Ed : just waited for lower 30's see how it would react, once it broke downtrend on 1minute I entered
[10:13 am] scalpman  : See you tomorrow....
[10:13 am] joeytsa  : liked your overall process
[10:13 am] joeytsa  : enjoy
[10:13 am] scalpman  : looks like there some good action here still.
[10:14 am] jsn13  : ed, thanks...so enry price at around 30.7? then how do u trail it?
[10:14 am] apple  : bye scalp have fun
[10:19 am] joeytsa  : /PL with another nice move
[10:21 am] Ed : when i take profit jsn, I move stop up to like .01 to .03 above b/e then will slowly trail, at times behind 20sma
[10:21 am] mikewd2 -: HLF lod
[10:22 am] joeytsa  : i like that Ed
[10:22 am] jsn13  : ok thanks ed....now have u out all or where is ur target for the last piece?
[10:22 am] Ed : no target just until market stops me out
[10:23 am] Ed : when I do that last piece like that is like carefree trade
[10:23 am] Ed : the last piece that is
[10:23 am] joeytsa  : i have to try that
[10:23 am] jsn13  : now r u still in VHC for the last piece?
[10:24 am] Ed : Im all out
[10:24 am] Ed : is sky here
[10:24 am] jsn13  : ok nice....thanks....
[10:24 am] Ed : man ISRG is down nicely again
[10:24 am] joeytsa  : yeah, i mentioned ISRG earlier..rough 2 days for them
[10:25 am] joeytsa  : ISRG is one of those stocks that tends to have huge moves on earnings
[10:25 am] joeytsa  : but this isnt earnings related i dont believe
[10:25 am] Ed : that was a walk in the park trade
[10:26 am] Ed : using 510 as key level
[10:27 am] joeytsa  : might make a decent options play
[10:27 am] joeytsa  : $550 has been a big level also
[10:28 am] apple  : downgrade
[10:28 am] joeytsa  : ackman doing his best mike imitation :)
[10:29 am] joeytsa  : ILMN spike down on vol
[10:29 am] reshef  : MLNX
[10:30 am] joeytsa  : /GC nice run
[10:33 am] reshef  : COO
[10:35 am] qwert  : monitoring FSLR
[10:35 am] reshef  : FSLR
[10:35 am] joeytsa  : ACN nice run since lod
[10:35 am] joeytsa  : tesing $69 now
[10:38 am] mikewd2 -: Samsung to be charged by E.U. over Apple patent lawsuits
[10:39 am] mikewd2 -: looking for 33.18 on HLF
[10:40 am] joeytsa  : yeah Ed, finally got that break over 1433
[10:41 am] joeytsa  : /PL with another 4pt move
[10:42 am] mikewd2 -: HLF L
[10:43 am] eyes  : how arre you Mike
[10:43 am] mikewd2 -: better eyes
[10:43 am] eyes  : good to hear its been a while sence we talked
[10:44 am] apple  : /ES near hod
[10:44 am] joeytsa  : break time, see you in 45
[10:44 am] joeytsa  : yeah apple pp is 1436
[10:46 am] apple  : have fun joey
[10:47 am] mikewd2 -: decent rebound in CCL
[10:50 am] mikewd2 -: out CLF 33.18 - 33.75
[10:50 am] taco  : great  call mike
[10:50 am] taco  : was there a vawp or ma you targeted?
[10:51 am] taco  : or just whole #?
[10:51 am] taco  : nearby
[10:51 am] mikewd2 -: pivot at 33.18
[10:55 am] jsn13  : Mike, was that HLF or CLF?
[10:56 am] mikewd2 -: HLF
[10:57 am] jsn13  : mike, what is the indicator that u used to provide u with the pivot of 33.18?
[10:57 am] jsn13  : *use
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: it was the camarilla pivot
[10:58 am] jsn13  : ok thanks....need to get that imported into ninja....
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: sometimes those stocks just migrate and bounce right off them.
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: Senior Republican says House won't adjourn today
[11:03 am] eyes  : mike you take some off hlf
[11:04 am] eyes  : vhc
[11:04 am] mikewd2 -: all out at 33.75
[11:05 am] eyes  : how ar eyou doing QWERT
[11:05 am] qwert  : doing good how are YOU
[11:10 am] reshef  : HAR
[11:15 am] apple  : need to run to the bank, back in a bit
[11:15 am] joeytsa  : get some $ for me :)
[11:15 am] apple  : np, in $$$s?
[11:16 am] joeytsa  : :)
[11:17 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL moving
[11:17 am] reshef  : MMM
[11:34 am] joeytsa  : CLR spike
[11:35 am] mikewd2 -: Continental Resources sees 2013 production growth 35%-40%
[11:36 am] joeytsa  : ahhh, thx mike
[11:36 am] eyes  : Good Night Everyone
[11:36 am] joeytsa  : bye eyes
[11:36 am] reshef  : VRX
[11:37 am] taco  : c ya eyes
[11:38 am] jsn13  : mike, what are the names of the levels u have on the camarilla pivots?
[11:39 am] mikewd2 -: there R's and S's just like other pivots, they are just calculated differently
[11:41 am] jsn13  : do u have levels like POC and H1, L1 and so son?
[11:42 am] mikewd2 -: PP, R4-R1, S4-S1 but not all are shown
[11:42 am] mikewd2 -: http://www.pivotpointcalculator.com/
[11:4 2 am] mikewd2 -: this will show you the math behind the pivots
[11:44 am] jsn13  : haha i just want to get the plug in....dont think i wanna spend time writing the indicator....haha...
[11:44 am] mikewd2 -: ok
[11:45 am] mikewd2 -: symc
[11:45 am] mikewd2 -: sorry wrong window
[11:45 am] joeytsa  : jsn: ninja has pivots
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : just not the camarillo ones
[11:47 am] jsn13  : ya im using the floor pivots...just dont like them much...
[11:48 am] joeytsa  : gotya, i find the floor ones adequate..its all personal preference
[11:48 am] apple  : back - /Es hod
[11:55 am] joeytsa  : jsn: are you doing futures also with ninja?
[11:55 am] joeytsa  : FDX with a bit of strength
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : and quick spike down wow
[11:58 am] victor51  : I am S on VRX @61. Any one else S hort VRX?
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : not me victor
[12:06 pm] mikewd2 -: HLF
[12:09 pm] jsn13  : mike, what is the name of the level that u mentioned just now at 33.18 on HLF?
[12:09 pm] jsn13  : i have L4 at 33.35...
[12:11 pm] mikewd2 -: i think its S4, but would need to look at the Easy language code
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : i dont even have floor pivots at that level
[12:12 pm] jsn13  : joey, that is the main reason why i wanna look for other pivots...cos u wont have pivots level once u r well out of prior day range...
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : i still like the esignal pivots better than TS
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : goog point jsn, but once outside prior day range i go into trend mode thinking
[12:14 pm] joeytsa  : and on something like HLF, its trading at yearly lows, so not sure how confident i would be on a trading pivot with no trading there?
[12:15 pm] jsn13  : haha just wanna have reference if there is setup....
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : you can go back to early 2011 to see last time it traded in this area
[12:16 pm] mikewd2 -: VirnetX announces post-trial motion hearing held, Apple sales data ordered
[12:18 pm] jsn13  : ok i see...thanks joey....
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : but you are more technical/hard working than me haha
[12:20 pm] joeytsa  : /ES sitting on pp
[12:22 pm] jsn13  : mike, where is ur s3 then?
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : FDX gave decent pullback, didnt take it though
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : stocks in slo-mo at the moment
[12:23 pm] mikewd2 -: 35.18
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: VHC resume
[12:24 pm] jsn13  : ok cool....ok now i can confirm that i have the right setting as urs now...haha...thanks...
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : maria b is goign off  haha
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : all i heard was shouting, thought my wife was mad at me again :)
[12:26 pm] qwert  : that was awesome i lover her
[12:26 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, thats 2 days in a row she got a bit fiesty
[12:26 pm] qwert  : i was watching yesterday as well shes so cool
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch,Ed,everyone...have a great day, see you all tomorrow
[12:31 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:31 pm] taco  : bye joey
[12:34 pm] qwert  : Gonna go early today  see ya all in the am  great calls today
[12:35 pm] Ed : c ya qwert
[12:35 pm] qwert  : bye Ed
[12:35 pm] taco  : have a good night
[12:37 pm] mikewd2 -: EZCH
[12:42 pm] murano  : See ya'll tomorrow
[12:42 pm] Ed : c ya murano
[12:43 pm] taco  : c ya
[12:50 pm] victor51  : hlf trading in a very narrow range last 45 minutes. is it forming a short term base?
[12:52 pm] Ed : trying very hard to bottom, lot of fight between buyer/seller at potential tops and bottoms
[12:54 pm] victor51  : Thanks Edf. Lightening buy signal for HLF on 15 min.
[12:55 pm] Ed : If u place position would start really small
[12:55 pm] Ed : like no more than 10% of normal posiiont
[12:55 pm] Ed : soo if u normally do 1000 shares, start with 100 as example
[12:56 pm] victor51  : Ed I agree. it's moving. is it short covering mini rally?
[12:57 pm] taco  : thank Mitch Ed and all, have a great rest of your days. cya in the am
[12:58 pm] Ed : Its possible
[12:59 pm] Ed : shorts have hit it very hard since that 70 price
[01:07 pm] victor51  : Thanks Mitch,Ed and all trading buddies.

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