Chat Highlights From 12/20/2011

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[06:17 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:18 am] Kris : RHT, BDX, ILMN and POT for possible shorts
[06:18 am] Kris : This morning I'm watching DUK, ED, SO, SLXP, RIO, NOK and ALV for possible longs
[06:19 am] Ed : good morning
[06:19 am] Mitch K: the early indications are that this could be a buy on the dip kind of trading action today, at least early in the session.
[06:21 am] Brent : good morning
[06:31 am] Kris : watching JNPR for a short
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching RHT for quick short
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching ADTN for short
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching SYK for quick short
[06:33 am] Kris : NFLX short half
[06:34 am] Kris : MCP short half
[06:34 am] Kris : watching RHT for a short
[06:35 am] Kris : CRM short half
[06:35 am] Kris : VHC short
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching RTI for short
[06:37 am] Kris : GMCR short half
[06:38 am] Kris : out half VHC short
[06:38 am] Mitch K: missed DECK short but watch for bottom to buy
[06:39 am] Brent : watching CIE for a short
[06:40 am] Ed : watching DBLE for short
[06:41 am] Brent : watching APC for a short
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching RCL for bottom
[06:43 am] Ed : reduce DBLE
[06:43 am] Mitch K: CIE toppy looking at short
[06:44 am] Kris : short second half CRM
[06:45 am] Kris : NFLX short second half
[06:46 am] Brent : consider reducing CIE soon holding up here
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching FWLT for short soon
[06:47 am] Kris : out half CRM short
[06:47 am] Kris : out half GMCR short
[06:48 am] Brent : consider reducing APC
[06:48 am] Kris : VHC testing lod[06:49 am] Brent : next target 12.20 area on CIE and 73.50 area on APC
[06:49 am] Kris : RIMM short half
[06:55 am] Ed : reduce more DBLE
[06:56 am] Mitch K: consider covering half of RHT short
[06:58 am] Kris : out another 1/4 VHC short
[06:59 am] Kris : out another 1/4 CRM short, support around 103
[06:59 am] Kris : RHT new lows
[07:00 am] Mitch K: consider selling RCL
[07:01 am] Brent : CIE slowly moving down, $12 area next target
[07:01 am] Mitch K: watch CVC for long soon
[07:02 am] Mitch K: whenever you see RCL, also watch CCL, both cruise lines. probably others but those two are companion stocks like LVS and WYNN is in casino resorts
[07:03 am] Brent : consider reducing more CIE, you can trail stop on last piece and try for 11.50 area
[07:04 am] Mitch K: these two shorts above, RTI and ADTN pretty much over,
[07:05 am] Mitch K: consider covering any remaining RHT short
[07:06 am] Ed : boy what an ugly chart
[07:06 am] Ed : out all DBLE
[07:08 am] Kris : out half RIMM short
[07:08 am] Mitch K: anyone still short SYK?
[07:09 am] Mitch K: RCL turning over, decent short
[07:10 am] Kris : out another 1/4 RIMM
[07:10 am] Mitch K: don't try to squeeze every penny out of RCL short, quick hit and run
[07:11 am] Kris : maybe RIMM will by NFLX and I can have all my shorts in one place
[07:18 am] Kris : no apple, I'm out
[07:18 am] Kris : out all RIMM short
[07:27 am] Mitch K: CCL gave nice short, too late to enter now; consider covering half, maybe hold remaining half if new lows occur
[07:29 am] Brent : SPY new hod[07:29 am] Mitch K: 1st helping short on SYK over now, watch for 47.85 later for 2nd possible short
[07:30 am] Mitch K: CTRP interesting short
[07:36 am] Mitch K: CVC long scalp over
[07:37 am] Mitch K: see new low on CCL? that's why you want some of short open
[07:38 am] Ed : nice call King Mitch King
[07:39 am] Mitch K: you guys know this drop and pop and then drop pattern been working real well last 2-3 weeks
[07:47 am] Mitch K: here are the two cruise line twins
[08:01 am] Mitch K: looking for 24.40
[08:01 am] Mitch K: RCL bouncing, worth small long
[08:16 am] Mitch K: watching JEF for top; check news on company
[08:27 am] Mitch K: you might consider selling RCL long if you went long
[08:41 am] Mitch K: and the following day or days the volatility usually decreases, so you move on to another set of stocks
[08:41 am] Mitch K: whenever you see a stock volatile like RCL, you can expect to see more of the same during that day
[08:44 am] Ed : not recommending
[08:44 am] Ed : Sina hod[08:44 am] Kris : SINA breaking out over resistance
[08:45 am] Kris : strong against the market pullback
[08:46 am] Mitch K: watching SINA
[08:48 am] Mitch K: consider covering any RCL short
[10:15 am] Ed : thx Rusty
[10:15 am] Ed : watching MRVL
[10:30 am] Ed : may sell my swing long in SINA from friday[10:31 am] Ed : 48.71
[10:32 am] Ed : we talked about it in room on 12/16
[10:32 am] Ed : i agree daily looks good, just don't want to be pig
[10:32 am] Ed : yes, it was called swing
[11:41 am] Brent : SPY testing hod[11:43 am] Brent : new hod, SPY
[12:58 pm] Mitch K: later guys, see you tomorrow
[12:59 pm] Ed : have a great evening
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a good night, see you in the morning
[01:00 pm] Kris : good night everyone. see you back here in the morning. 12/20/2012
[06:14 am] doji : Pre-market moving, goo for those who are trading swings
[06:17 am] joeytsa : gap down: TRGT,GIS,
[06:17 am] joeytsa : gap up: JEF,AAPL,AMZN,CRM,BIDU,SINA..lots more
[06:18 am] joeytsa : might keep an eye on SCHN, TRW for some downside
[06:19 am] joeytsa : yeah Kris, SLXP might be interesting
[06:19 am] joeytsa : yeah, housing permits and starts #'s up a bit
[06:23 am] joeytsa : the ES went from sub-1200 to 1217 area currently
[06:24 am] joeytsa : eye on LVS,CVX,DECK also
[06:26 am] rusty : Selling C long into the gap
[06:28 am] rusty : CHK worth watching based on daily chart
[06:29 am] joeytsa : as in more downside rusty?
[06:29 am] joeytsa : or a bounce to maybe 24 then back down?
[06:31 am] rusty : yes something like that....have to review the fundies[06:31 am] joeytsa : probably catch it both ways
[06:34 am] rusty : SINA lod[06:34 am] rusty : watch for rebound
[06:38 am] doji : Stopped NFLX agggh[06:38 am] doji : SPY 2% already
[06:40 am] joeytsa : DECK giving some nice moves
[06:40 am] joeytsa : ES near that 1225 level
[06:42 am] joeytsa : broke thru 1225 at the moment
[06:44 am] rusty : RHT downgraded by analyst
[06:45 am] weston : short CIE @ 12.61
[06:46 am] joeytsa : CL looks strong so far
[06:46 am] joeytsa : CL nice break thru res and held the test
[06:50 am] joeytsa : might get a small up move in CRM b4 the next leg down
[06:52 am] joeytsa : RHT turned into a really nice short
[06:53 am] doji : Nice Joey
[06:53 am] joeytsa : i didn't get RHT, was in another play
[06:53 am] doji : BAC dropping
[06:54 am] truck : out half CIE,,,+.20
[06:54 am] joeytsa : AMZN looks weak
[06:56 am] skydiver : I'm out 1/2 CIE + .20 as well
[06:56 am] lightning : come on RHT....drop to a new low
[06:57 am] skydiver : all out of FMCN
[06:57 am] joeytsa : watching GS for a short on market weakness...looks like it doesn't want 90 for now
[06:58 am] lightning : all out RHT short
[06:58 am] joeytsa : nice job lightning
[06:58 am] joeytsa : all out CRM s :)
[06:59 am] lightning : lol, left $ on the table with RHT.
[06:59 am] joeytsa : nothing wrong with that light
[07:01 am] skydiver : Thanks Brent - CIE moving slow but right direction
[07:01 am] joeytsa : watching CVX
[07:02 am] joeytsa : smart Mitch, always good to follow same-sector stocks
[07:02 am] truck : out 1/4 CIE,+.38
[07:03 am] joeytsa : nice truck
[07:03 am] truck : thank you joey !
[07:03 am] truck : thank you Brent !
[07:04 am] truck : 11.50,,,are you kidding ?
[07:04 am] skydiver : out 1/4 more on CIE with trailing stop on last 1/4
[07:04 am] Brent : I would trail it Truck, but a test of yesterday's high is possible in my opinion on CIE
[07:05 am] joeytsa : PCLN getting really interesting on the daily
[07:05 am] joeytsa : BIDU lod[07:07 am] skydiver : NFLX - renewed takeover chatter
[07:07 am] rusty : NLFX takeover rumors
[07:07 am] rusty : NFLX
[07:08 am] doji : That rumors took me off NFLX short!
[07:08 am] chinhngo : can i buy put pcln ?
[07:08 am] weston : I already closed SYK@47.4
[07:09 am] truck : He is short CIE doji !
[07:09 am] Mitch K: ok weston, good job
[07:09 am] truck : gone the rest CIE !! Thanks Brent !!!!!![07:09 am] Brent : nice one Truck
[07:10 am] rusty : RIMM radar
[07:10 am] rusty : lod[07:10 am] skydiver : Nice Truck - I immated you - thanks to Brent
[07:11 am] truck : great skydiver ! Let's do it again ![07:11 am] doji : Well NFLX doesn't look like a short right now
[07:11 am] skydiver : that buy out rumor is really kicking NFLX up
[07:11 am] Kris : why not doji?
[07:12 am] doji : still moving up
[07:14 am] rusty : RL lod[07:14 am] rusty : FSLR hod[07:15 am] rusty : CERN hod[07:15 am] apple : wow just noticed DNDN at 7.34! Not much more left to go on that one!
[07:17 am] apple : K are you still in NFLX?
[07:18 am] eyeoverpyramid : How is RIMM looking for you guys
[07:18 am] truck : K is busy watching the cruise lines
[07:19 am] doji : NFLX ate my lunch...
[07:19 am] khall : mine too Doji, and gave a big burp after
[07:19 am] derns : small long TZA
[07:20 am] derns : AMZN lod[07:20 am] joeytsa : AMZN bleeding
[07:20 am] lightning : out 1/2 CVC long
[07:20 am] apple : but we're not in AMZN...
[07:20 am] rusty : RL new lod[07:21 am] doji : or RIMM
[07:21 am] apple : or RIMM
[07:21 am] Ed : nflx can be a wild buck, have to get him when he not looking
[07:21 am] doji : HE it comes
[07:21 am] apple : how about now?
[07:21 am] skydiver : I'm still in NFLX - finally coming down a bit
[07:22 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 CVC L
[07:22 am] rusty : holler when you cover NFLX then I will post the rumored NFLX takeout price
[07:22 am] skydiver : OK :)
[07:22 am] doji : SPY is consolidating to move up?
[07:23 am] rusty : RIMM lod[07:24 am] lightning : out a little more CVC L. Still holding 1/3.
[07:24 am] apple : good job light
[07:24 am] lightning : I'm making up for my NFLX fiasco.
[07:25 am] skydiver : forgot to post - covered NFLX 69.83 -
[07:25 am] skydiver : didn't like the way it was acting
[07:28 am] truck : Joey,,are you long AMZN ?
[07:29 am] scalpman : OUt another 1/4 CVC L
[07:30 am] rusty : looking at selling some RIMM puts
[07:30 am] scalpman : All out CVC L
[07:31 am] eyes : whys that Mitch it looks to be consolidating
[07:31 am] lightning : nice scalp. I'm still hanging in for a little while longer
[07:32 am] apple : good one scalp
[07:32 am] doji : SPY moving slowly...
[07:32 am] apple : it's consolidating before it gives it up
[07:33 am] eyes : what you basing that off of apple
[07:34 am] eyes : just trying to understand the thinking behind it
[07:34 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 RLC S
[07:35 am] anthonyb : just spoke to santa, he is considering closing his long scalp on JOY
[07:35 am] apple : it popped up the started descending, then consolidating
[07:36 am] lightning : all out CVC L
[07:36 am] scalpman : Out another 1/4 RLC S
[07:37 am] brianh : thanks for cvc Mitch!
[07:37 am] anthonyb : he is long FSLR
[07:37 am] jsn13 : GOnna trend down for CCL?
[07:39 am] anthonyb : SANTA is out of JOY but he made +.77 on it
[07:40 am] rusty : looking at RIMM Jan 12 Puts
[07:40 am] anthonyb : he took a small loss on SINA this morning, Santa that is...
[07:41 am] cowboyh : my little numbers on my screen are mostly green that's always good
[07:41 am] apple : that is fantastic!
[07:43 am] anthonyb : SANTA just sold 1/2 of his long position in FSLR
[07:44 am] scalpman : new lod RLC
[07:44 am] apple : good for santa,i got out too soon
[07:44 am] scalpman : Still got 1/10
[07:44 am] davidr : hi guys I am new to this why is cvc chart up is it a poss long trade?
[07:44 am] scalpman : All out RLC S...
[07:45 am] lightning : watching CROX for possible short
[07:45 am] doji : Watching RCL
[07:45 am] anthonyb : hi davidr. It was about 40 mins ago
[07:46 am] apple : david, MK did not take it down from before, watch the chat
[07:46 am] anthonyb : welcome to the room davidr[07:46 am] doji : already 4% drop from that 25 high
[07:46 am] skydiver : Yes - welcome davidr[07:48 am] doji : Apple, I am just watching, didn't take it S at the top unfortunately
[07:48 am] apple : we were too busy losing in NFLX!
[07:49 am] eyes : S RCL 24.89 out 1/2 .64 1/4 .39 1/4 .13
[07:49 am] skydiver : Hey - I made .18 in NFLX - pocket change
[07:49 am] doji : YEs, that is not good, you lose concentration trying to chase one stock
[07:51 am] davidr : maybe i need to log on earlier and learn from you all
[07:51 am] apple : david, the first hour and a half is the best
[07:52 am] Kris : you definitely want to be here for the open davidr[07:53 am] anthonyb : yes david, even if it's just to watch
[07:54 am] davidr : thanks will be back tomorrow bet go to bed now and be in at start tomorrow
[07:57 am] jsn13 : Went short on CIE shortly after the open at 12.80 and finally covered all at 12.37.....nice 3.3%....thanks Brent....
[07:57 am] doji : FSLR tuning down
[07:57 am] apple : good job jsn[07:57 am] skydiver : Good job jsn13 - you had more patience than me
[07:58 am] anthonyb : yes doji, that was from SANTA selling his long position
[07:58 am] anthonyb : in FSLR
[07:58 am] weston : watching RCL, looks like bottom
[07:58 am] jsn13 : but i was wondering that should i have covered at around 12.....did i miss the part for volume? a possible bottom to cover maybe?
[07:59 am] jsn13 : but was thinking of the potential drop to 11.6o area....that's y i leave my stop wide....any comment?
[07:59 am] skydiver : S FSLR 32.36
[08:00 am] skydiver : came in late -
[08:00 am] eyes : CRM turning
[08:00 am] apple : S FSLR 32.36
[08:01 am] doji : What did you see in FSLR to go short at 32.36 Apple?
[08:01 am] eyes : L rcl 24.04
[08:02 am] apple : consolidation then heading down with big candles
[08:05 am] skydiver : Have to take off to my office - had a phone call -- closed FSLR at 32.30
[08:10 am] weston : closed half RCL @24.32
[08:10 am] apple : good job weston[08:11 am] jolliffboy : Hey Mitch. It really helps when you mention "what you are looking for" as you did with RCL at 8:01am
[08:12 am] apple : yes, MK, it is always helpful with a target
[08:13 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 RLC L
[08:14 am] khall : thanks for RCL Mitch
[08:14 am] sfarrill : JEF
[08:15 am] doji : out 1/2 RCL here
[08:16 am] weston : I am out all RCL24.48
[08:17 am] doji : JEF at R3 now
[08:17 am] doji : Any news?
[08:18 am] doji : All out RCL S
[08:18 am] doji : Long sorry
[08:19 am] derns : the market seems very strong today..doesn't feel like there will be a sell off
[08:21 am] doji : Not at all Derns[08:21 am] apple : good one doji[08:22 am] eyes : out 1/2 RCL 24.28 1/4 .48 out last 1/4 .44
[08:23 am] Brent : nice one eyes
[08:23 am] Ed : nice eyes
[08:23 am] weston : CCL turning over
[08:25 am] doji : JEF 14 resistance
[08:25 am] apple : S CCL 32.36
[08:26 am] lightning : VZ drop
[08:27 am] doji : Anyone in JEF?
[08:27 am] doji : Just watching
[08:27 am] lightning : not yet in JEF, but watching
[08:27 am] apple : no
[08:28 am] derns : no JEF shares available for short at Schwab
[08:29 am] doji : JEAF already 19% up
[08:30 am] go4it : hard to borrow at T/S
[08:33 am] jsn13 : got stopped out once on JEf now shorted 2nd time now at 14.05....
[08:33 am] lightning : JEF shares to short at Lightspeed[08:34 am] doji : Hey lightning send some here; will take it short at 14.13
[08:34 am] khall : JEF shares to short at IB
[08:34 am] lightning : doji, why not at 14.25?
[08:34 am] khall : I was able to grab 3% on JEF long, we'll see how short does
[08:34 am] doji : Because that is the price where my short at TDA was rejected
[08:35 am] derns : JEF..there is a small gap to fill between 14.37 and 14.55
[08:36 am] derns : on the daily from 10/28
[08:37 am] rusty : SINA hod[08:38 am] doji : Short in RCL working good
[08:38 am] khall : good call on RCL short Apple
[08:39 am] jsn13 : so what is the news for JEF actually?
[08:39 am] joeytsa : JEF..4thq declined but above wall st est[08:40 am] derns : JEF...I believe there was a conf call and earnings that refuted previous allegations of problems...conf call was supposedly very strong
[08:40 am] joeytsa : quarterly dividend of .075/share
[08:40 am] doji : out 1/2 RCL short, will see if it break the lod[08:41 am] doji : Thanks Mitch, I hit it L when you called it and then S
[08:43 am] joeytsa : MA having a very nice day
[08:43 am] doji : All out RCL
[08:45 am] dan : CIE hod[08:46 am] michael : BIDU also breaking out
[08:47 am] rusty : SINA SOHU going vertical
[08:47 am] rusty : sold SINA long
[08:48 am] doji : S SINA
[08:50 am] joeytsa : be careful doji[08:50 am] joeytsa : QLD running
[08:50 am] eyes : S CCL 32.32 out 1/2 .16 stop last 32.07
[08:52 am] khall : SINA L in at 53.54, out at 55.96
[08:52 am] truck : khall,,,,,really nice trade
[08:53 am] khall : thank you. Makes up for my earlier frustration....
[08:56 am] truck : CIE has been green for 25 minutes
[08:56 am] rusty : BIDU hod[09:12 am] truck : s,,,,,,CVS 39.40
[09:15 am] apple : wished I would have reversed on CTRP - hod at 23.50
[09:21 am] truck : out 1/2 +.17,,,CVS
[09:22 am] truck : stopped last half,,,+.12 ,CVS
[09:26 am] truck : 52 week high,,,,V[09:26 am] joeytsa : hey truck...i didn't go long on AMZN when you asked, i stepped away right b4 you asked earlier
[09:27 am] truck : I thought so
[09:27 am] joeytsa : BIDU from strong downtrend to really nice upmove[09:27 am] truck : Wish you had took it long
[09:28 am] joeytsa : actually had i done anything, i would have been waiting for a short, since that was the trend at the time
[09:28 am] truck : Banks doing well today
[09:28 am] truck : Even BAC is up 3%
[09:28 am] joeytsa : GS still catn break $90 though
[09:29 am] joeytsa : i just can't get excited on BAC
[09:30 am] truck : Oh,,,, I don't want it long...Just looked
[09:30 am] truck : Not all the accounts in this country, can calculate their losses !
[09:31 am] joeytsa : 3% on a $5 stock...give me 1% on a $100 stock any day :)
[09:32 am] joeytsa : unless i plan to buy 10k shares :)
[09:33 am] truck : Mary Watts bought the bonds for the box in the 1970's....When it was North Carolina National.
[09:33 am] truck : One of the smartest women I ever new.
[09:34 am] truck : That was before most of you were born.
[09:36 am] joeytsa : after i was born, b4 i was interested in the markets
[09:38 am] joeytsa : SPY 20,50,200emas within a point of each other
[09:40 am] joeytsa : stocks got my attention oct 87
[09:40 am] joeytsa : didn't open an account until mid-late 90's
[09:41 am] apple : and here you are the pro today...
[09:41 am] apple : i am glad you are here
[09:41 am] joeytsa : something like that...thanks, love being here..some great minds in the room to learn from
[09:42 am] apple : CCL is over there doing a nice consolidation and RCL is really moving
[09:48 am] joeytsa : OKS a bit of a pop
[09:57 am] chinhngo : csiq just signed contact almost 500 million dollars
[09:58 am] apple : RCL turning over again
[09:58 am] joeytsa : tighten stop on OKS if you shorted
[09:59 am] apple : OKS was nice
[10:00 am] apple : JEF hod[10:00 am] joeytsa : yeah, took it late
[10:01 am] apple : didn't get it
[10:01 am] joeytsa : SHLD up move
[10:01 am] apple : JEF would have been nice at about 11
[10:02 am] joeytsa : GS finally with a strong move over $90
[10:03 am] doji : Unfortunately the problems in the EU still persist and it will drag the market in January for sure
[10:03 am] joeytsa : think you are right doji[10:03 am] joeytsa : looking for a nice pop up to get those shorts off
[10:04 am] joeytsa : any shorts will be put options
[10:06 am] joeytsa : a well-played/timed 2012 just might set up retirement fund
[10:06 am] apple : sounds like a plan...
[10:06 am] joeytsa : and give plenty of money to be able to buy stocks near a bottom
[10:07 am] derns : Joey...I would love to do the same, but I think I may be a few years of learning before that could happen
[10:07 am] doji : I am just moving some money to my TDA account at year end; will look to build a portfolio for next year
[10:08 am] joeytsa : still have to scale in
[10:08 am] doji : The mess in EU should come to a fix at some point next year...
[10:08 am] joeytsa : not to mention booming retirement population here that is underfunded for their retirements
[10:08 am] doji : Yes Joey, just want to have the cash available for when the right time arrives...
[10:08 am] eyes : cci
[10:08 am] derns : a fix in EU, I think, will follow a break or close to one
[10:09 am] eyes : CCI
[10:09 am] joeytsa : good one eyes
[10:10 am] joeytsa : the ES banging on 1235
[10:10 am] joeytsa : FSLR quick spike also
[10:12 am] apple : NFLX still marching along
[10:13 am] derns : nice call eyes
[10:14 am] rusty : MRVL alert
[10:14 am] rusty : MRVL alert
[10:17 am] doji : SPY moved up to 3% at the hod[10:17 am] doji : SINA moving
[10:18 am] apple : good one on MRVL rusty
[10:24 am] eyeoverpyramid : PBH
[10:30 am] apple : E - what did you buy it at?
[10:31 am] apple : great for you...
[10:31 am] apple : the daily looks good on it
[10:32 am] doji : Was it called as swing Ed?
[10:33 am] doji : Anyway, good call on SINA
[10:33 am] apple : I see resistance at 57 on the 7 day chart
[10:34 am] apple : I had SINA on Friday, but did not hold it
[10:35 am] Ed : next time
[10:37 am] dan : ED, how do you handle swing trades from daily stock report especially big pop in the indexes today?
[10:39 am] weston : question guys, I haven't use trade station before, is their platform able to run on MAC ?
[10:40 am] Ed : i don't do a lot of swing trading dan, but typically if I have a day trade and I am way ahead on day trade and like daily (like it is bottoming) I will hold a 1/4 position from day trade and swing it
[10:41 am] doji : I do the same Ed, but with all this mess in the EU I have become more conservative
[10:41 am] rusty : OKS radar.... we missed the first entry
[10:45 am] apple : nice fun chart on OKS!
[10:47 am] rusty : PRSG radar
[10:47 am] rusty : bb stock be careful
[10:50 am] apple : MK could you put up the SPY chart, thx
[11:02 am] Ed : Obama speaking
[11:02 am] apple : great, mind your positions
[11:02 am] weston : Obama is the best daytrader[11:05 am] apple : V - 52 wk hi
[11:13 am] truck : Apple,,did you take V , short?
[11:14 am] apple : no
[11:16 am] truck : CCL might look interesting at 32.50 or so
[11:43 am] joeytsa : the ES trying to bust thru 1235..good sign for a sustained up move
[11:46 am] joeytsa : the vix might break below 23
[11:48 am] rusty : OZRK - whattyaknow a bank at an all time high
[11:49 am] joeytsa : nice for them...only 91 banks have failed this year
[11:49 am] rusty : all we need is Cramer to buy it
[11:49 am] apple : thx MK, K, B and E and everyone for all your help. All have a fabulous evening -- see you tomorrow!
[11:49 am] joeytsa : funny you say that..he was saying banks are not a buy
[11:50 am] joeytsa : he was ranting on banks this morning
[11:50 am] joeytsa : BIDU pop
[11:50 am] Ed : take care apple
[11:53 am] lightning : looking for a little pop in TZA
[11:56 am] lightning : L TZA 27.27 (just a little)
[11:59 am] derns : what precipitated today's run up? Oversold stocks? Does anyone think the EU issues are baked in the market?
[11:59 am] joeytsa : better housing start #'s maybe
[12:00 pm] eyeoverpyramid : As a newbie, what is the term "hod"?
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : might have triggered some stops, which might have caused more buying?? just a guess
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : hod = high of day
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : lod = low of day
[12:01 pm] derns : the housing figure is nice, but given how those work, I am surprised...could be the stops and short covering...that makes sense to me
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : it is good for the markets that he financial are involved in this move though
[12:02 pm] rusty : C hod[12:02 pm] joeytsa : KMR making a small move
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : not sure any profit will come of it
[12:02 pm] derns : yes..the financials have certainly added to this rally
[12:02 pm] rusty : fwiw the SPY volume is below average
[12:04 pm] Kris : good point rusty
[12:04 pm] joeytsa : I'm seeing V,MA all near 52wkhighs...
[12:04 pm] joeytsa : what happens next month when people can't pay those bills
[12:05 pm] rusty : no problem Ben will lower interest rates
[12:05 pm] joeytsa : it can go lower? :)
[12:05 pm] derns : JEF closed that small gap from late October...will settle down now, perhaps
[12:06 pm] derns : if Ben pays us to borrow, sign me up!
[12:06 pm] joeytsa : rusty..hasn't volume kind of gotten lower since 2007
[12:09 pm] rusty : yeah volume has declined in general, that being said, if 70% of the market is run by computers, high frequency trading and algorithms....not much of the volume is mom and pop investor anymore
[12:09 pm] rusty : mom and pop too busy trying to put food on table
[12:09 pm] joeytsa : GS hod[12:12 pm] rusty : days like this ruin the January effect plays
[12:13 pm] joeytsa : maybe
[12:13 pm] rusty : so hard to buy stuff when market up 330
[12:14 pm] rusty : and no one wants to buy when market is down
[12:15 pm] rusty : any of you follow twitter for trading...the whole of twitter was short yesterday
[12:15 pm] rusty : and today of course, most twitterererers are long
[12:15 pm] Ed : people afraid of missing the move have noo problem
[12:16 pm] joeytsa : which is funny if you think about it....
[12:16 pm] rusty : true ed, they never do
[12:16 pm] Ed : always chasing the tail
[12:16 pm] joeytsa : makes more sense to put money into a stock that's moving up than moving down
[12:16 pm] rusty : everyone likes to buy a high
[12:16 pm] rusty : but no one likes to buy a low
[12:17 pm] rusty : JEF hod[12:17 pm] rusty : look what usually happens to JEF after a one day move like this
[12:18 pm] rusty : maybe we catch it tomorrow
[12:18 pm] rusty : if not sooner
[12:19 pm] derns : rusty...today appears to be the biggest 1 day move for JEF, this year
[12:19 pm] joeytsa : earnings
[12:20 pm] joeytsa : RY nice spike
[12:21 pm] rusty : here's part of the reason for JEF move
[12:21 pm] rusty : http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/jef/short-intere st
[12:21 pm] rusty : EVERYONE was short
[12:22 pm] derns : will there be some profit taking this last 40 mins?
[12:22 pm] rusty : i love that term "profit taking"
[12:23 pm] joeytsa : me too, sure beats loss taking :)
[12:23 pm] rusty : market down XX% from the highs yet CNBC, Cramer et al always taking profits
[12:23 pm] Ed : good point
[12:24 pm] rusty : Cramers buys NFLX at 200 and takes profits at 60
[12:24 pm] rusty : never understood his math
[12:24 pm] joeytsa : haha[12:25 pm] rusty : http://www.thestreet.com/mad-money/index.html
[12:25 pm] rusty : true
[12:25 pm] joeytsa : only thing i like with cramer is the ceo interviews he does
[12:26 pm] rusty : you mean the infomercials?
[12:26 pm] rusty : Cramer must shop for free at WFM
[12:26 pm] rusty : based on the number of times he mentions
[12:28 pm] rusty : dang who shorted JEF
[12:28 pm] rusty : UTEK radar
[12:29 pm] rusty : kind of low volume...not that great
[12:29 pm] joeytsa : 10k share buy went thru on JEF looks like
[12:29 pm] rusty : that was probably a TSA cover lol[12:30 pm] joeytsa : some decent sell size starting around 14.55
[12:31 pm] joeytsa : OCN big spike or misprint?
[12:31 pm] rusty : would be fun to see market pull back 150 points and see if anyone buys the dip
[12:31 pm] Ed : spike
[12:32 pm] derns : all S&P sectors are uniformly up today...
[12:32 pm] joeytsa : that would be a hoot rusty
[12:32 pm] Ed : i call it jello on the plate, easy to move with light vol[12:33 pm] eyeoverpyramid : ocn downgraded by fitch no misprint
[12:33 pm] joeytsa : OCN..that was over 200k vol on that spike
[12:34 pm] joeytsa : downgraded from rps2 to rps3
[12:35 pm] joeytsa : neg watch maintained
[12:36 pm] derns : Joey..what is on neg watch?
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : OCN..that's why the big spike..fitch dg'd them
[12:36 pm] derns : got it..thx...I thot you were referring to a country in the RU
[12:36 pm] derns : EU
[12:37 pm] joeytsa : no, that will come at 1:02pst :)
[12:37 pm] derns : "they"
[12:37 pm] joeytsa : :)
[12:37 pm] derns : "they" keep on saying its coming...but maybe it is being held back
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : maybe
[12:39 pm] derns : tomorrow marks the last year anniversary before the end of the world according to Mayan Calendar...I "suspect" that won't happen and a downgrade of France is more likely...we'll see!
[12:40 pm] joeytsa : might also be the day when many people say " buy i wish things were like they were in 2008" :)
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : 2012 should be just as good for trading as 2011 has been
[12:43 pm] joeytsa : stocks making another push higher
[12:43 pm] rusty : market must close at high
[12:43 pm] rusty : it's a rule
[12:45 pm] joeytsa : at least it puts people in a good mood
[12:45 pm] willm : you guys trade only in the morning? I am sitting here yesterday and today but nothing to trade after the morning hour.
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : haha rusty
[12:46 pm] derns : until today, I was respecting that consistent pull back after continued morning run-ups...now, I don't know what to make of this
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : willm: much more action first 60-90 minutes
[12:46 pm] lightning : willm, most trades I do take place in the first 90 -120 minutes.
[12:47 pm] lightning : I've done only one trade after 11:30 eastern today.
[12:47 pm] lightning : most of the volatility is early. Later in the day, you may get news that drives a stock up or down significantly.
[12:48 pm] Brent : generally it's a little busier than this willm, but slow now because of the holidays
[12:48 pm] joeytsa : volume does dry up during holidays
[12:48 pm] willm : with low volume?
[12:48 pm] Brent : right
[12:48 pm] willm : I just sit and nothing to do
[12:49 pm] willm : all day
[12:49 pm] joeytsa : that's called patience :)
[12:49 pm] rusty : i trade very little on these big up days
[12:49 pm] joeytsa : i see around 10,000 stocks you can trade if you want to..just maybe be smarter to sit and wait for something good
[12:50 pm] rusty : Cramer has all of those 10,000 stocks in his head
[12:50 pm] joeytsa : he should..he's bought them all
[12:50 pm] rusty : and most of them with a strong buy
[12:50 pm] joeytsa : and a sfx[12:51 pm] willm : but I don't know which one is good . So I come here and watch you
[12:51 pm] joeytsa : then you are learning very well
[12:51 pm] joeytsa : trading is like driving a car....
[12:51 pm] joeytsa : you need to learn how fast you SHOULD go before you learn how fast you CAN go
[12:57 pm] joeytsa : PCLN, if it fails to break above $490 area..on next turn down might be worth a swing short
[12:58 pm] derns : bye Mitch..thx for CVC tip
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: sure derns, good action early today, lot more ideas
[12:59 pm] joeytsa : now we need to watch the 1225-1235 area on the ES
[12:59 pm] joeytsa : break above may give a run to 1250..above that 1300
[01:00 pm] derns : joey...what does ES stand for and how do I track it? I track SPY and $SPX.
[01:00 pm] joeytsa : ES= s&p emini futures
[01:01 pm] derns : is that the symbol?
[01:01 pm] joeytsa : yeah..it's a future
[01:01 pm] joeytsa : if you don't have futures then you can use SPY/SPX etc...
[01:01 pm] joeytsa : seems like a lot of traders use the ES though
[01:02 pm] rusty : traders/junkies
[01:02 pm] derns : I don't have futures..so I guess I will track SPY.
[01:02 pm] rusty : ES trades 24 hours a day...makes some crazy overnight moves
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