Chat Highlights From 12/18/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:09 am] Ed : good morning
[06:18 am] Ed : SWHC is smith & wesson better know as "my little friend"
[06:18 am] Ed : For Advanced traders monitor SWHC for continued weakness
[06:25 am] Ed : Press conference by house Repubs will be held at 10est
[06:31 am] Mitch K: monitoring GS for trades today
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching CHL for top
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching bottom for RGR
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching HRC for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching LTD for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching AAPL for bottom, take time
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching SWHC for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: monitoring GPOR for trades
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching TRMB for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching ARUN for short soon, top soon
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching SHLD for top
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching TRMB closer
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching CRZO for top
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watchign CCE for top
[06:36 am] Mitch K: monitoring CTRP
[06:36 am] Mitch K: monitoring FFIV
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching FDS for short on top of bounce, soon
[06:37 am] Mitch K: TRMB bottoming
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching GMCR for short, usually good trading stock, esp on short side
[06:39 am] Mitch K: or rather, watch SWK for top
[06:39 am] Mitch K: SWK toppy
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching HRC closely to sell long, not in hurry to short it
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching BHI for top
[06:42 am] Mitch K: BHI toppy
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching DFS for bottom
[06:42 am] Mitch K: monitoring  CAM, ENDP, ALLT
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching FOSL for top
[06:44 am] Mitch K: market is sensing a deal, lot of larger cap stocks moving up
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching CMI for microshort
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching GILD for bottom to buy
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching GPOR for gradual selling of long, monitoring for top to short, smaller short
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching ABMD for bottom to buy, more downside first, missed short
[06:47 am] Mitch K: monitoring APKT
[06:48 am] Mitch K: bottoming now
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching AMGN for bottom
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching CVLT
[06:49 am] Mitch K: remember gun manufacturers down alot last 3 trading days since shooting, big elementary school
[06:49 am] Mitch K: more upside on RGR
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching DISH for bottom, taking time
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching IPGP for top
[06:51 am] Mitch K: TRMB should act like trending stock up, slow grind up
[06:51 am] Mitch K: remind me to show you something today at 9am pacific, etrade platform
[06:52 am] Mitch K: managers decided to turn on computer trading programs today, kept them asleep yesterday
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching SHW for bottom
[06:54 am] Mitch K: monitoring PM, not sure how much this stock bounces, dont watch it as a trading stock so not sure
[06:55 am] Mitch K: BHI toppy, consider selling if long, watching for some micro trades short, series of shorts
[06:55 am] Mitch K: watching AVGO for bottom closer
[06:56 am] Mitch K: consider reducing RGR soon
[06:56 am] Mitch K: watching AMGN closer
[06:57 am] Mitch K: consider selling HRC
[06:57 am] Mitch K: monitoring STLD
[06:57 am] Mitch K: not enough vol on CHL for my taste
[06:59 am] Mitch K: more downside on VNDA, watching for trades
[07:01 am] Mitch K: missed SAFM bottom, watching it all morning but watch for a top to short
[07:03 am] Mitch K: on this drop with CL, if you buy long, keep the first buy a small profit target, maybe 7-10 ticks, and subsequent buy signals can be bigger after this drop
[07:04 am] Mitch K: nice run on NG, natural gas
[07:04 am] Mitch K: just dont have expectation that big bounce is in order on CL, lot of small bounces then fails
[07:05 am] Mitch K: GPOR should give some short profits
[07:05 am] Mitch K: GPOR toppy
[07:05 am] Mitch K: monitoring LIFE for bottom
[07:06 am] Mitch K: watching TRMB to reduce long
[07:09 am] Mitch K: sell signal on NG, Natural Gas on 4 range chart
[07:11 am] Mitch K: watching HNZ for bottom (Ketchup company)
[07:13 am] Mitch K: see stocks spiking
[07:14 am] Mitch K: watching NFLX for trades, next one a short, take time
[07:15 am] Mitch K: let LIFE run before selling
[07:15 am] Mitch K: SPY high of day
[07:21 am] Mitch K: HNZ bottoming
[07:21 am] Mitch K: SI, SIlver trending down nicely last 35 min
[07:33 am] Mitch K: i wouldnt expect a lot higher on this CL 01-13 run
[07:34 am] Mitch K: Joey liking the ES on LIghtning?  i think that is really good instrument for LIghtning, trends well for big enough moves
[07:34 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[07:38 am] Mitch K: real steady buying after WHite house made concession to Boehner about an hour ago
[07:41 am] Mitch K: CL has sell signal on a 4 range (4r) chart but that is a shorter time interval
[07:42 am] Mitch K: thats late post by 5 candles, lol, never sent that message
[07:43 am] Mitch K: more downside on NG
[07:47 am] Ed : SPY pushing higher
[07:48 am] Ed : monitoring WHR
[07:53 am] Mitch K: that was nice trade ons hort side
[07:53 am] Mitch K: buy signal on NG 4 range chart,
[07:56 am] Mitch K: good job Ed on WHirlpool.  is that your brand of washing machines
[08:04 am] Mitch K: looking for sell signal in NG 01-13 to be decent short
[08:06 am] Ed : monitoring LO for potential bounce
[08:10 am] Mitch K: i think we should give Ed a new name.  Whirlpool
[08:11 am] Mitch K: last comment was referring to SWHC
[08:11 am] Mitch K: thats a real negative chart pattern for a long, is excellent for a short, you long Jollif?
[08:13 am] Mitch K: not enough profit potential for me jolli
[08:13 am] Mitch K: anyone following that NG Futures chart NG 01-13?  at least worth sim trading
[08:15 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[08:15 am] Mitch K: cowboyh, check your expiration month,
[08:15 am] Mitch K: my reasoning for anticipating a good sell signal when i mentioned that earlier as it was rebounding was the previous drop was around 30 ticks and bounces have been real small so i like to be on the side of strength, make sense?
[08:15 am] Mitch K: im looking at NG 01-13
[08:16 am] Mitch K: cowboy, go to Control Center, Tools, Instrument manager, type in NG and click Search, highlight NG Natural Gas Futures
[08:17 am] Mitch K: go down lower and see EXchange says Nymex, the box where it says Expiry, dropdown menu to 01-13, click arrow pointing left o add to your favorites or default list
[08:17 am] Mitch K: remove NG 12-12 by highlighting in default list, click arrow pointing right,
[08:18 am] Mitch K: i like to add a couple other months as well to same instrument that i trade a lot.  Add 02-13, 03-13 as well
[08:20 am] Ed : placing stop last 1/4 @ breakeven
[08:20 am] Ed : Im reducing 3/4 of Lo long
[08:21 am] Mitch K: yeah lisa
[08:24 am] Mitch K: monitoring RGLD drop
[08:25 am] Mitch K: you are funny scaklpman, WHR just started dropping, no signal to cover, best to let bigger move occur, hand off mouse, lol
[08:26 am] Mitch K: ok you guys on that NG 01-13 trade, you see the No Trading Zone in yellow in last 3 candles?
[08:26 am] Mitch K: most stocks, esp something like WHR, takes a long time to move
[08:27 am] Mitch K: its ok to just hold the short, dont have to do anything special, it is just a headsup that probably not great time to open new position but ok to hold what you have and in futures, always with stops in plkace
[08:28 am] Mitch K: its a calculation of really low volume and volatility at that moment and big trending moves typically not imminent but news can always change that
[08:30 am] Ed : If u took SWHC short would cover here
[08:43 am] Mitch K: which in futures trading, thats all you need, we arent long term traders in futures, average hold time might be less than 15 min per trade, on really active days with CL could be 5 min
[08:43 am] Mitch K: NG 01-13 repeated same pattern, tiny rebound, bigger drop, expecting this to continue and when you see a bigger tradable bounce, that should give you a clue that a rebound or trend change is more likely and you start watching for higher highs than last rebound and smaller pullbacks.  that defines a trend change at the early stages
[08:45 am] Mitch K: which month joey?
[08:51 am] Mitch K: hey joey, on that PL going into the NTZ (No trading zone), that chop right?  i see that often
[08:53 am] Mitch K: my guess is NG is going to go into chop zone, and more yellow will appear.
[08:53 am] Mitch K: same pattern on this NG, trending down, bounces are not tradable long but shorts are the side to be on
[08:54 am] Mitch K: nice Murano, where have you been?  FDS interesting
[08:56 am] Mitch K: making money is fun but working with good people super fun
[08:56 am] Mitch K: yeah i agree, this room getting really efficient, i was just thinking that last few days, really makes it fun
[08:58 am] Mitch K: ive been in a lot of rooms over the years and most can be very egotistical, a little negative, too many distractions.  so i wanted to avoid all that
[08:58 am] Ed : out all LO long
[08:59 am] Mitch K: hey scalpman, did you short WHR again?
[09:00 am] Mitch K: right joey, i just figured out that etrade platform is on another platform but i load on this computer now, just a min
[09:01 am] Mitch K: yeah scalkp, thats the way to use Lightning i think.  use same tools you have been doing, just use audio for Lightning signals, look at chart, make decision your existing way.  and gradually you integrate Lightning more.  thats what i did
[09:02 am] Mitch K: remember try to not overtrade with lightning, use it to stretch out the hold time if stock or futures is moving
[09:04 am] Mitch K: ill be right there, just a 1 min
[09:05 am] Ed : Nice call murano on FDS
[09:05 am] Mitch K: you mean about yourself joey?
[09:05 am] Mitch K: this is kind of cool tool but im sort of sick
[09:07 am] Mitch K: btw, you can get HP or Dell 30" monitors, also very nice too
[09:07 am] Mitch K: ok this is sort of big so you will have to use your scroll bar on bottom and right side  or i think you can drag it around in this projector.  i sized this down because i use it on a 30" Apple monitor
[09:08 am] Mitch K: this is one of my kids accounts has $1388 bucks in it but i can access all the time.  i dont trade with it, just want it for the charts
[09:08 am] Mitch K: ok what i wanted to show you here is you cna have lots of charts up, many charts and you can monitor them on this etrade platform.
[09:09 am] Mitch K: so what i do is run scanner, put up a chart, the i switch to screen 1 or 2, 3 or 4  on lower left of screen see that?
[09:09 am] Mitch K: so one click to Screen 1 and i have 9-10 charts ok?
[09:09 am] Mitch K: same with screen 2, 3, 4 and so on
[09:10 am] Mitch K: so with each screen i can have 18-20 charts X 4 screens thats  almost 80 charts, plus i like high low ticker, let me show you
[09:10 am] Mitch K: but watch this, i didnt realize this and discovered by accident that i had a whole new screen to the right by moving this etrade scroll bar at the bottom to the right and i have another 9-10 charts
[09:11 am] Mitch K: when you see repeated symbols on any high low ticker or scanner, you should check it by bring up the chart, especially in first 45 minutes of trading day
[09:11 am] Mitch K: ok now see the high low ticker on right?
[09:11 am] Mitch K: i grab scroll bar at bottom, slide right
[09:12 am] Mitch K: you will see the red New Lows column on the left side of high low tick kicking out more trades, more posts, it is moving faster than the green ok
[09:12 am] Mitch K: another professional trick, good to know type of thing.  lets say that we are having in a particular morning a lot of selling right?
[09:13 am] Mitch K: and you guys know how i always say, or often say that you want to time your bottoms with a drop in the SPY or QQQ, which represents the market indexes?
[09:14 am] Mitch K: so when you see  that red side kicking out symbols much faster, you know stocks are dropping more, more selling and it doesnt take much analysis, its just a snapshot picture in your mind, takes about one quick glance and you know what is happening, you dont have to stare or think about it
[09:16 am] Mitch K: its really cool,  i just glance, i can almost see it on periphery vision,
[09:16 am] Mitch K: so on those days you are going along seeing red clicking faster, keep a sp500 chart or SPY chart same place everyday and you look for those bottoms, and then what is interesting is you will see a bottom in lots of stocks plus the index chart you have up and now the green column, which is new highs is moving at same speed as red column.   meaning now the shift in selling moves toward buying
[09:17 am] Mitch K: now this time of day, sort of dead zone, ticker not moving too much unless news or something like maybe a federal reserve comment, maybe Obama Boehner make some progress or agreement, war breaksout, etc.
[09:18 am] Mitch K: since this fits or i made it fit on one of my 30" monitors, i dont have to scroll down but this projector only allows a 24" screen size so i have to grab scroll bar on right and pull down to see lower charts but you dont want to do this, size it for your screen and not require to move down, only move horizontal bar left and right to get your extra set of 9-10 charts
[09:20 am] Mitch K: i saw the shift in buying very early today,  you can see it happen with this ticker so i said to myself to be on the long side more.   this is a 5 star tip, will really help you make more money.  plus this allows lots of charts.  but i dont trade on this at all, too expensive commissions and not great pricing on fills plus very very low inventory to short stocks.  so trading on etrade is a No Go.
[09:21 am] Mitch K: i just started putting this on a different computer so i dont use resources of this main computer that i have the Trading Room, Ninja, bunch of lihgnting charts, scanners on.  i think the etrade platform is a resource hog and we all know Ninja Trade platform is a hog too
[09:22 am] Mitch K: when i separated this etrade platform to separate computer, i didnt have any issues with Ninja but i was having some memory problems with computer because i use a MAc desktop on bootcamp but problem is it uses a 32 bit Ninja version and cant use all the memory i have so i ordered a Dell box coming next week
[09:23 am] Mitch K: so a real pc with windows will use 64 bit ninja, more memory per application and should be better
[09:24 am] Mitch K: hope that all helps,
[09:24 am] Mitch K: everytime i say watching XYZ stock closely . . . . it is on a Lightning chart, I dont stare at the etrade chart closely, the etrade chart is more of a landing spot to stick up a lot of charts
[09:24 am] Mitch K: i hope that helps, ive been using Power etrade Pro charts for a "glance" for at least 12 years.  but i look at Lightning for detail and trading.  So i use the etrade for a chart pattern recognition purpose, then if i like the chart, then enter it on a LIghtning to watch closer.
[09:26 am] Mitch K: what i think will help us all make more money, consistently, is more useful tools,  i think trading has become even in the last year more tilted toward the well prepared traders
[09:27 am] Mitch K: i think the unprepared retail trader, newer people are going to have a harder time making money without good tools, training, preparation.  There isn't as much low hanging fruit in the stock market now.  and i see a shift toward futures much more pronounced now
[09:28 am] Mitch K: hope that all makes sense.
[09:29 am] Mitch K: i am using Interactive Brokers and also Lightspeed but mostly IB through Ninja
[09:30 am] Mitch K: PL is on the move again
[09:31 am] Mitch K: out of that NTZ with good long and good short so it is cycling well now
[09:35 am] Mitch K: hopefully this isnt an irresponsible statement but if you ever want to make more reliable consistent money in futures, ES works relaly well in LIghtning.  if you are having trouble with more volatile  instruemnts and want to gain confidence, trade the es
[09:36 am] Mitch K: the backtesting shows this is far superior than a min chart on futures but min chart is good place to start and learn because it is slower moving, fewer signals
[09:36 am] Mitch K: i like 5 range setting, but you can experiment around
[09:37 am] Mitch K: WHR kicking out a lot of microtrades
[09:37 am] Mitch K: yes joey, ES you can go at market and not have to "work your trade" with limit orders
[09:38 am] Mitch K: the high low ticker showing much more bullishness, new highs column moving 3 times faster.  makes sense the Nasdaq is up 1.26% and SP 500 up 0.94%
[09:39 am] Mitch K: Ed, S&P had Greece on selective default rating
[09:40 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[10:52 am] Ed : SPY trading in small range
[11:08 am] Ed : WHR strength attributed to positive data out of the AHAM
[11:10 am] Ed : WHR strength attributed to positive data out of the AHAM
[11:31 am] Ed : nice drop in SPY
[11:37 am] Ed : nice one reshef on WHR
[12:21 pm] Mitch K: micro short on GOLD
[12:55 pm] Mitch K: probably a bad tick
[12:55 pm] Mitch K: you are losing it Murano, getting slow in your old age
[12:55 pm] Ed : SPY pushing higher
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: murano, I expect no longer delay than 25 milliseconds
[12:57 pm] Mitch K: i'd rather you just post a chart on my LIghtning without typing,
[12:58 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders
[12:58 pm] Mitch K: love you guys, take care, see you tomorrow
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: hey murano, you there?
[01:03 pm] Mitch K: there is a technology that we can do that, if we have an idea, electronically send idea and it can open a chart on your platform, thats my understanding

[06:08 am] taco  : good morning gang
[06:09 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Ed, traders
[06:09 am] joeytsa  : housing market index @ 7pdt,  not much in the way of gappers so far
[06:10 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:10 am] cowboyh  : Goodmorning Ed ......... everyone
[06:10 am] lisas  : futures pretty dead pre market also
[06:12 am] joeytsa  : yeah lisa, NG on a decent run, thats about it
[06:12 am] qwert  : good morning everybody  :))
[06:15 am] khall  : good morning all!  Happy Tuesday
[06:18 am] apple  : good morning to all strong traders
[06:18 am] apple  : gm khall
[06:18 am] joeytsa  : thx Ed
[06:18 am] apple  : gm qwert
[06:18 am] apple  : gm joey
[06:18 am] apple  : gm lisa
[06:18 am] apple  : gm cowboy
[06:19 am] apple  : gm E
[06:19 am] apple  : gm MK
[06:19 am] khall  : ha ha ed
[06:19 am] khall  : gm apple
[06:19 am] joeytsa  : get the feeling that we are goign to need a bit of news to get things rolling this week
[06:19 am] khall  : yeah, you might be right joey
[06:19 am] apple  : gm taco
[06:19 am] taco  : hi apple
[06:23 am] joeytsa  : ES has been trending down for over an hour
[06:23 am] Ed : u on the train joey
[06:23 am] doji  : Good morning
[06:23 am] Ed : hey doji
[06:23 am] joeytsa  : no, will try to catch it at the next stop :)
[06:24 am] scalpman  : gm
[06:25 am] scalpman  : Joey any Gappers this morning?
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : not really scalp
[06:25 am] apple  : gm scalp
[06:25 am] khall  : thanks Ed
[06:25 am] skydiver  : gm all . . will only here for a little bit today -- thnx Ed for news
[06:25 am] khall  : that should move things
[06:25 am] apple  : gm sky
[06:25 am] scalpman  : ok thanks
[06:25 am] skydiver  : gm apple
[06:25 am] apple  : thx E
[06:26 am] qwert  : gm apple
[06:26 am] joeytsa  : watching AAPL gapping up a bit, GOOG down a bit
[06:27 am] joeytsa  : ARB up on buyout, VNDA up on phase3, BHI down on expectations
[06:28 am] doji  : Apple moving
[06:29 am] elisha  : Good Morning Mitch, Ed and everyone
[06:30 am] apple  : gm elisha
[06:30 am] joeytsa  : watchign AMZN
[06:30 am] elisha  : gm to you apple!
[06:31 am] khall  : gm elisha
[06:31 am] khall  : how are you?
[06:32 am] doji  : Watching BHI
[06:32 am] joeytsa  : HRC?  low vol
[06:32 am] elisha  : gm morning to you  too khall!
[06:33 am] doji  : AAPL
[06:33 am] elisha  : rat terrier-ing it still.  Thanks for asking.  How are you?
[06:34 am] khall  : doing well thanks :-)
[06:34 am] joeytsa  : watching FFIV
[06:36 am] joeytsa  : CCE
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : crude pullback to R1
[06:38 am] doji  : Dang... missed APPL bottom ... moved too fast
[06:39 am] joeytsa  : watching RCL
[06:39 am] joeytsa  : AMZN moving
[06:39 am] mikewd2 -: YOKU moving nicely
[06:40 am] joeytsa  : good to see you mike, sent you a fb message
[06:40 am] mikewd2 -: leaving in a few, have to be there at 10am
[06:40 am] mikewd2 -: sucks not having coffee - haha
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: RIG moving today
[06:41 am] joeytsa  : oh ok, keep me posted, best wishes :)
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: ACMP
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: will do joey, thanks
[06:41 am] joeytsa  : tighten FFIV if long
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : ES testing res
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : eye on FOSL
[06:43 am] joeytsa  : nice call Mitch on GPOR
[06:44 am] joeytsa  : just gave nice pop
[06:45 am] joeytsa  : BIDU
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : CL on 30c down move
[06:48 am] joeytsa  : CVLT spike
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : STX
[06:51 am] doji  : BHI in a crazy move
[06:51 am] joeytsa  : BHI nice day
[06:51 am] elisha  : ok
[06:57 am] joeytsa  : housing mkt index up in 2min
[06:57 am] doji  : dang stopped BHI
[06:57 am] doji  : on the short side
[07:02 am] joeytsa  : GC/gold on a nice down move, might signal buy soon
[07:02 am] scalpman  : Cover 1/2 IPGP S
[07:03 am] victor51  : gm all
[07:04 am] joeytsa  : agreed, sell signals givign better moves
[07:04 am] joeytsa  : so far
[07:04 am] doji  : GPOR rocking
[07:05 am] elisha  : gm victor
[07:06 am] apple  : gm victor
[07:12 am] doji  : WFT
[07:13 am] shawn  : NFLX possible short
[07:13 am] doji  : NFLX trying to breakout
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : yeah, nice move past 10-15mins
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : missed clear dbl bot
[07:14 am] shawn  : You call it MItch
[07:15 am] doji  : Run NFLX run
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : GC another lower high
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : boehner speaking
[07:16 am] skydiver  : well -- have to run .. thnx Mitch for great calls -- 2 nice wins and one small loss.
[07:17 am] skydiver  : have great day all :)
[07:17 am] Ed : c ya sky
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : bye sky
[07:18 am] khall  : have a good one sky
[07:18 am] taco  : c ya sky
[07:18 am] qwert  : bye sky
[07:20 am] doji  : NFLX just beatiful... paying the loss from BH short
[07:20 am] doji  : out 1/2 NFLX
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : nice one doji
[07:21 am] doji  : next target hopefully 98.5
[07:21 am] apple  : TS froze up - have to shut down
[07:21 am] doji  : GPOR broke $40
[07:22 am] joeytsa  : ES might test 1430 here
[07:23 am] doji  : all out BFLX
[07:23 am] doji  : Niced $2.25/share profit....
[07:23 am] doji  : That;s all fellas.... se ya later
[07:24 am] qwert  : nice Doji
[07:24 am] taco  : nice Doji
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : nice trading, enjoy your break :)
[07:24 am] qwert  : watching RIMM
[07:24 am] doji  : The $10c loss in BHI was covered by the $2.15 profit with NFLX
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : and then some :)
[07:25 am] doji  : Thanks Jeoy... see ya later...
[07:26 am] apple  : by doji have fun
[07:28 am] apple  : something got screwed up with TS...
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : apple: did you get it fixed
[07:33 am] joeytsa  : CL on nice run
[07:34 am] joeytsa  : watching RAX
[07:34 am] joeytsa  : yeah, CL just broke thru R1, but might get tired
[07:34 am] joeytsa  : yeah Mitch, making nice moves
[07:35 am] lisas  : what happened apple?
[07:35 am] scalpman  : cover 3/4 GMCR S
[07:35 am] shawn  : Any Ideas on NFLX guys?
[07:35 am] joeytsa  : yep shawn, waiting for next move up
[07:36 am] shawn  : Looks like to Me a short
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : should pullback a bit
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : thats just not my style
[07:38 am] joeytsa  : ES has R1 at 1433, will watch that price level
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : break time, make some $$ :)  nice calls
[07:40 am] elisha  : is that a right to work break or a union breat?
[07:40 am] scalpman  : All out GMCR S
[07:40 am] elisha  : breat = break
[07:47 am] scalpman  : NBR rising
[07:51 am] scalpman  : ED What area WHR?
[07:51 am] scalpman  : WHR?
[07:51 am] scalpman  : 99?
[07:53 am] scalpman  : WHR Buy on 1 minute
[07:53 am] Ed : may not get it though
[07:54 am] scalpman  : Buy on the 2 min
[07:55 am] scalpman  : sell 1/2 WHR L
[07:56 am] Ed : yes
[07:57 am] scalpman  : Sel another 1/4 WHR L
[07:57 am] scalpman  : Staying calm...
[07:58 am] Ed : nice trading scalp
[07:58 am] scalpman  : no sell on Lightning yet
[07:59 am] scalpman  : Thanks ed for the calll...It looked goo to me
[07:59 am] scalpman  : All out WHWR L
[07:59 am] scalpman  : WHR
[08:00 am] scalpman  : ah ...should have trusted Lightning on this one...
[08:01 am] scalpman  : Watch WHR for Short
[08:01 am] Ed : u owe me a washer
[08:01 am] scalpman  : ha
[08:01 am] qwert  : hahaha
[08:02 am] scalpman  : Mitch any comment on the Lightning 1 minute...this one seems classic!
[08:04 am] joeytsa  : PANW bit of a pullback to $53
[08:08 am] shawn  : LO looks like a buy
[08:09 am] reshef  : Hi Mitch, Can you open my mail, I have trading problems
[08:10 am] scalpman  : WHR Sell signal
[08:10 am] jolliffboy  : Anybody got a guess as to bottom for SWHC?
[08:10 am] scalpman  : 1 min
[08:11 am] Ed : very weak stock joliffboy, its been short the highs type of day
[08:11 am] joeytsa  : no clue jollif
[08:11 am] jolliffboy  : thanks ed, joeysta.
[08:12 am] scalpman  : LO moviing
[08:13 am] jolliffboy  : Mitch, not long but was considering it at 7.70. Guess I'll pass on it. Thanks for the advice.
[08:13 am] khall  : yes Mitch, I am
[08:13 am] qwert  : im trading it Mitch
[08:14 am] joeytsa  : ES/CL in nice trends also Mitch
[08:14 am] regatta  : im following NG on 1 min chart
[08:14 am] regatta  : in sim
[08:14 am] cowboyh  : Hey anyone what would cause my NG chart to not be live? everything else works
[08:15 am] qwert  : for sure Mitch
[08:15 am] cowboyh  : thats what i have
[08:15 am] taco  : same here cowboy
[08:15 am] taco  : i get metals, es but not ng live
[08:16 am] taco  : think has to do with subscription
[08:16 am] cowboyh  : ok
[08:17 am] qwert  : Monitoring TRIP
[08:18 am] joeytsa  : ES might get to 1440 at this rate
[08:18 am] reshef  : Ed, All the stockes cen be trade under Nasdaq in Ninja System?
[08:18 am] shawn  : You in LO ED?
[08:19 am] cowboyh  : Ok Its in there I had checked that before
[08:19 am] joeytsa  : PL/platinum nice run
[08:19 am] Ed : reshef are u asking if u can trade through ninja?
[08:20 am] lisas  : taking a break, be back to Mitch's info at 12:00 est, right?
[08:20 am] joeytsa  : enjoy lisa
[08:21 am] Ed : yes shawn
[08:21 am] Ed : I took some off to bank profit, dont like how its trading
[08:23 am] scalpman  : SEll 1/2 LO
[08:23 am] Ed : that way it works out great, if not fine also, I banked some $$
[08:23 am] reshef  : I try to trade with Ninja, but was rejected by interactive Brokers, they say that I have to mark each of the instrument under market, I don't know if I can mark all of the instrument under Nasdaq, or I have to select them where they belong
[08:23 am] joeytsa  : PL nice short
[08:23 am] Ed : Not sure on that since I dont trade through ninja
[08:23 am] joeytsa  : TF/russell emine nice upmove
[08:24 am] Ed : Im sure someone else in room can help that uses IB with Ninja
[08:24 am] reshef  : Thanks Ed
[08:24 am] Ed : hey qwert, u see reshef question
[08:25 am] qwert  : yeah but dont use IB either
[08:25 am] scalpman  : Cover 1/2 WHR S
[08:25 am] khall  : reshef, are you talking about adding the instruments to the default list?
[08:25 am] Ed : anyone else use IB and ninja?
[08:25 am] khall  : I do
[08:25 am] Ed : so qwert, I thought u did
[08:25 am] scalpman  : Nice drop on WHR ...always wait a little longer.
[08:25 am] regatta  : anybody know how to manually place stop in static super dom for futures
[08:26 am] qwert  : only using ninja for futures with AMP  still using lightspeed to trade stocks
[08:26 am] scalpman  : cover 1/4 on WHR S
[08:26 am] khall  : yes
[08:26 am] qwert  : yes
[08:27 am] taco  : i use them but dont remember what i did
[08:27 am] doji  : Gold dropping
[08:27 am] khall  : got it
[08:27 am] Ed : ? 61:30? 61:30www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuPPU-lax_k
[ 08:27 am] qwert  : thx mitch
[08:27 am] Ed : thats for you regatta
[08:27 am] regatta  : tks
[08:27 am] joeytsa  : regatta: i dont use the dom, but i think you just put in under teh sell??
[08:28 am] joeytsa  : thx Mitch
[08:30 am] scalpman  : Sell 1/4 LO L
[08:30 am] Ed : hey Joliff u see how that worked out with selling highs of SWHC, meaning when it bounces near trendline and u get short signal
[08:31 am] Ed : Its more of adnvaced technique, but one that can be learned with study
[08:31 am] shawn  : does CRM look like a short ED
[08:32 am] scalpman  : All out WHR S
[08:32 am] Ed : dont really like that as short shawn
[08:33 am] Ed : in uptrend on daily, small reange today for 170 stock
[08:34 am] shawn  : thank you
[08:34 am] scalpman  : Trailing up LO L
[08:34 am] Ed : ur welcome
[08:34 am] Ed : man cant wait for scalp to send me my washer
[08:34 am] scalpman  : All out LO L
[08:35 am] scalpman  : Thank ED...great calls...
[08:35 am] Ed : hey shawn, this does not mean that it will not give short signal, just all about the odds
[08:36 am] Ed : Hey jolffboy, u see moy comment
[08:36 am] joeytsa  : real nice 5pt move on the PL
[08:37 am] joeytsa  : PL= $50/pt per contract
[08:39 am] jolliffboy  : Ed: yes I did see your comment. Thanks.
[08:39 am] joeytsa  : scalp: you still here?
[08:40 am] apple  : back, had to do a system restore plus i had to recreate the desktops
[08:41 am] scalpman  : yes
[08:41 am] joeytsa  : loved your arranging videos, was thinking of you..listenting to Take 6 Christmas stuff now :)
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : great short on PL just now..making great swings
[08:42 am] scalpman  : Thanks Joey...I was practicing with my Screen Capture...and thought I would do some videos. Glad you liked them.
[08:43 am] joeytsa  : Finale is a great program
[08:43 am] scalpman  : Yes it is.. I am a user since 1995
[08:44 am] joeytsa  : once i lay more stuff down, my next step is some notation software
[08:44 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: check on PL..just got choppy, but nice swings so far
[08:45 am] joeytsa  : im using 1-13 on the 5R chart
[08:45 am] joeytsa  : something happened past 5 minutes, but nice moves previously
[08:46 am] scalpman  : With lightning today I did not open a chart until I put on a position. When the position was on then I opned the L-Chart to 1 minute. This gives early "watch signal"...I may then switch to 2 minute or leave it on 1 minute for monitoring. I also have a  small TS chart so I can just watch it. I realize I need one more screen...that would help.
[08:46 am] taco  : cowboy, does NG work for you?
[08:46 am] joeytsa  : nice scalp
[08:47 am] joeytsa  : AAPL hod
[08:47 am] scalpman  : Today I was practicing with small number of shares
[08:47 am] Ed : I like ur approach scalp
[08:47 am] joeytsa  : also, if you are watching the ES..keep eye on YM and TF for moves
[08:49 am] apple  : scalp how many monitors do you have
[08:49 am] scalpman  : Yes...100 for 1000... 10  for 100. I am preparing for live actionat the start of the year.
[08:49 am] scalpman  : I can use postage stamp size L-Charts.
[08:50 am] scalpman  : When you get a signal, you grab the corner of the chart, open it quick, take look, make deciision, close it back up. I have about 4 small charts, but realized I needed a bout 8.
[08:51 am] joeytsa  : yes Mitch, huge moves the hour before that
[08:51 am] scalpman  : I missed some stops today. But I still trading a lot. I was 9 for 15...I know that's too many for now, and will cut back over then next couple of weeks as I get more judiicious.
[08:53 am] scalpman  : But, in this market with the narrow range, I was take 40 and 60 profits, and they begin to add up...
[08:53 am] murano  : FDS
[08:53 am] scalpman  : All out of SWHC L..for $8  ($80 with full position)
[08:55 am] murano  : The people in this room are getting very good at spotting patterns.  They post most of them before I do.
[08:55 am] Ed : just makes room stronger and stronger
[08:55 am] joeytsa  : agreed
[08:56 am] murano  : Yes
[08:56 am] apple  : all working to help one another
[08:57 am] joeytsa  : yeah, members all looking at different things, gives more possibilities
[08:57 am] scalpman  : Cover 1/2 STLD S
[08:58 am] joeytsa  : scalp: are you looking for setups first, then a lightning signal?
[08:58 am] Ed : that was torutre
[08:58 am] scalpman  : Yes Joey, traditional trade methods, the L-Charts for confirmation and exits.
[08:58 am] Ed : hmmm, Im going back to school
[08:58 am] Ed : for typing
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : gotya..good to know
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : Ed: Mavis Beacon :)
[08:59 am] Ed : :)
[09:00 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: dont forget about the etrade thing you were going to mention
[09:00 am] joeytsa  : just didnt want you to forget your thought :)
[09:00 am] scalpman  : CMI trending down...But it is time to go...this has been the most productive day in learning to use Lightening with TSl. Actually, I am listenfor the signals, but watching my TS charts mostly. Using Vol and STochs
[09:01 am] joeytsa  : audio signals are great though
[09:01 am] scalpman  : FOSL may break
[09:02 am] scalpman  : Yes Mitch WHR short for a small profit
[09:03 am] scalpman  : Yes...for others...I may post a directory with a small video on my set up. Practicing with my screen capture. It may prove fun.
[09:03 am] lisas  : Mitch, were you going to go over something with etrade, or did I miss it?
[09:03 am] joeytsa  : sounds great scalp
[09:04 am] qwert  : yeah do it scalp
[09:04 am] joeytsa  : you missed it lisa..just kidding haha
[09:04 am] lisas  : ha ha joey joey
[09:04 am] scalpman  : I'm off thanks Ed and Mitch great calls. See you joey....
[09:04 am] qwert  : bye scalp
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : bye scalp, talk soon
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : i said that to my wife the other night  hahah
[09:05 am] scalpman  : Missed FDS short...oh well, tomorrow.
[09:05 am] scalpman  : Bye Qwert
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : :)
[09:05 am] Ed : c ya scalp
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : FDS real nice
[09:05 am] scalpman  : Scalpman has left the building!
[09:07 am] joeytsa  : GC/gold on nice run, coming into some res though
[09:07 am] joeytsa  : GC= $100/pt per contract
[09:09 am] joeytsa  : makes sense
[09:11 am] joeytsa  : great tool
[09:11 am] elisha  : wow
[09:13 am] cowboyh  : Does Ninja have this?
[09:13 am] qwert  : yes
[09:13 am] elisha  : yes
[09:14 am] cowboyh  : thanks Qwert
[09:14 am] qwert  : sorry cowboy was answering Mitch
[09:16 am] cowboyh  : ok no problem
[09:20 am] cowboyh  : need to go to work by guys have a great day
[09:21 am] joeytsa  : bye cowboy
[09:22 am] apple  : have fun cowboy
[09:22 am] apple  : i have etrade on a laptop
[09:22 am] joeytsa  : i keep CS and Opx on seperate laptops also
[09:23 am] joeytsa  : and if its a good machine, the more you throw at it, the more it will do
[09:24 am] joeytsa  : just like a person
[09:24 am] joeytsa  : GC 5pt move
[09:25 am] lisas  : TS has a similar "screen XYZ feature", very handy
[09:25 am] joeytsa  : which one is that lisa?
[09:25 am] lisas  : It's just layering workspaces on your desk top.
[09:26 am] joeytsa  : oh ok, gotya
[09:26 am] qwert  : yes thx mitch just added ticker to my etrade scanner
[09:26 am] lisas  : I've set up "monitor" workspaces with about 9 charts, then name them monitor a, b and c. Can have unlimited open
[09:26 am] elisha  : Mitch, what platform do you actually execute trades from?
[09:26 am] joeytsa  : qwert: do you have the ticker on Lightspeed?
[09:26 am] lisas  : I have always loved Etrades platform
[09:26 am] qwert  : yes i do joey
[09:26 am] lisas  : the way it looks, not their commissions though
[09:27 am] apple  : yeah, lisa, i love the hi/lo ticker
[09:27 am] joeytsa  : AAPL hod
[09:28 am] apple  : AAPL closed the gap from friday
[09:28 am] joeytsa  : sure does
[09:28 am] elisha  : Mitch, what platform do you actually execute trades on?
[09:28 am] apple  : yes, thx MK
[09:29 am] elisha  : Thank you Mitch for the look see
[09:29 am] qwert  : monitoring FSL
[09:30 am] lisas  : Thanks Mitch! Off to move furniture and then the airport to pick up daughter, have a great day all
[09:30 am] elisha  : bye lisas
[09:30 am] Ed : c ya lisa
[09:30 am] joeytsa  : have a nice day lisa lisa :)
[09:30 am] khall  : bye lisa
[09:30 am] Mitch K: take care lisa
[09:31 am] apple  : bye lisa, have fun
[09:31 am] Ed : wow S&P upgrades Greece
[09:32 am] elisha  : payola
[09:33 am] joeytsa  : that last GC move came on dbl bot with pos div
[09:34 am] joeytsa  : threw off 5pts..decent money
[09:36 am] joeytsa  : ES very liquid also
[09:38 am] joeytsa  : that ES 5R dbl bot gave a real nice trade
[09:38 am] joeytsa  : approx 10pts, nice
[09:38 am] joeytsa  : ES ready to test 1440
[09:39 am] Ed : as long as u have someone esles pocket book how can u go broke
[09:40 am] joeytsa  : huge run since news
[09:41 am] qwert  : which contract are you trading on the ES
[09:41 am] joeytsa  : 3-13
[09:41 am] qwert  : thx thats what i thought
[09:42 am] joeytsa  : i think the indices are quarterly contracts, metals monthly
[09:43 am] joeytsa  : 1443 now on ES
[09:44 am] joeytsa  : sad, im not even looking at stocks
[09:46 am] victor51  : Hey Joey, I see difference between @ES on TS and cnbc? How do we xplain
[09:46 am] joeytsa  : not sure, time delay maybe?  not watching cnbc though
[09:47 am] victor51  : thanks Joey
[09:48 am] joeytsa  : honestly have never seen the ES on cnbc, i will look
[09:48 am] joeytsa  : i see the s&p, not the ES
[09:49 am] victor51  : Mitch, Is there any differance in quality of Lightning signals on Daily Vs 2 or 3 minute signals?
[09:51 am] elisha  : short day for me, destination dentist.  I wish you all good trading
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : have a good day elisha
[09:53 am] victor51  : Bye Elisha
[09:55 am] victor51  : Joey, SNP500 on cnbc is same as SPY  or not?
[09:56 am] joeytsa  : yes, but a bit different from the ES
[09:56 am] joeytsa  : ES is an emini
[09:57 am] joeytsa  : moves in 25c ticks, if you look at cnbc you will see 1/100ths
[09:57 am] joeytsa  : 1445.59 last i looked
[09:57 am] joeytsa  : ES is a close approximation
[09:59 am] qwert  : AMZN new hod
[10:00 am] joeytsa  : qwert: AMZN nice moves past few days
[10:01 am] qwert  : i just looked for first time couple minutes ago  real nice
[10:04 am] joeytsa  : it was at $220 beginning of Nov
[10:04 am] joeytsa  : with Christmas, should have definately played it as a swing
[10:05 am] qwert  : yep  i missed it too
[10:05 am] joeytsa  : esp with that pullback to the 200 about then also..dumb dumb dumb  haha
[10:06 am] Ed : qwert was responsible for letting us know
[10:06 am] doji  : Hi fellas.... back
[10:06 am] joeytsa  : good, im off the hook
[10:06 am] qwert  : sorry okay
[10:06 am] doji  : Why APPL run when I am away?
[10:08 am] joeytsa  : GC still ticking lower, coming into some support
[10:09 am] joeytsa  : ES in a tight range
[10:09 am] joeytsa  : NG trending down past 3hrs
[10:13 am] joeytsa  : GC finally gave buy signal for short cover
[10:16 am] victor51  : Ed, Do you see any bdifferance in Lightning signal effectiveness for Intermediate or long term buy Vs day trading
[10:18 am] Ed : what do you mean?
[10:22 am] victor51  : use daily or weekly chart on Lightening and use signals for Intermediate  period stock purchase( 3 to 6 month holding period
[10:22 am] joeytsa  : victor: i think Mitch mentioned that daily signals were good also
[10:23 am] Ed : If ur looking to hold stock longterm 3 to 6 months, using 15min or daily is good
[10:24 am] Ed : 15min will get u in earlier naturally
[10:26 am] victor51  : Thanks Ed /Joey for reconfirming
[10:27 am] victor51  : I am thinking of realigning my IRA portfolio and use lightening signals along with some fundamentals
[10:28 am] joeytsa  : makes sense
[10:28 am] joeytsa  : lunchtime, see you in 45..GC still trending down
[10:28 am] apple  : bye joey have fn
[10:28 am] joeytsa  : just taking sell signals
[10:28 am] apple  : fun
[10:53 am] reshef  : NEM
[10:55 am] qwert  : watching CAB
[10:58 am] reshef  : CAB
[10:59 am] apple  : WHR
[10:59 am] qwert  : whr moving
[11:06 am] doji  : NFLX
[11:07 am] doji  : WHR 5igh at 52-week high at 103.5
[11:07 am] reshef  : HAIN
[11:09 am] joeytsa  : was there any special news on WHR today?
[11:10 am] joeytsa  : thanks Ed
[11:11 am] Ed : ur still the man
[11:11 am] joeytsa  : im just the man sitting next to the man :)
[11:11 am] Ed : next to the man
[11:11 am] joeytsa  : i have an Ed cardboard cutout
[11:12 am] Ed : lol
[11:13 am] joeytsa  : did you catch that monster long in gold
[11:13 am] Ed : missed it
[11:14 am] joeytsa  : i was on break, i would have been looking for a short but once it broke res would have taken it long
[11:14 am] reshef  : FDX
[11:14 am] joeytsa  : 1664.5 level was breakout
[11:14 am] Ed : i see it now
[11:15 am] joeytsa  : up until then, the sell signals were the better play
[11:15 am] Ed : agreed, the big money
[11:16 am] joeytsa  : have i been here, that short around 10:40pdt would have been a loss..but well made up for on the ensuing long
[11:16 am] joeytsa  : had not have
[11:19 am] taco  : cowwboy, you here?
[11:19 am] joeytsa  : he left awhile ago
[11:19 am] taco  : k thanks
[11:20 am] taco  : i had to update both ninja and ib because there were new settings for NG01-13
[11:21 am] taco  : in case he hadn't got his working, there is a cure
[11:21 am] joeytsa  : PL/platitum has given a couple of nice trades once out of the tight trading range
[11:21 am] reshef  : QCOR
[11:23 am] joeytsa  : NG had a nice higher low
[11:24 am] joeytsa  : some good reading at equities.com also
[11:25 am] joeytsa  : i have a link for ken c's articles if anyone wants them..let me know or email me
[11:26 am] taco  : sure post it if you can joey
[11:26 am] reshef  : ICON
[11:26 am] joeytsa  : http://editorial.equities.com/tag/ken-calhoun /
[11:27 am] joeytsa  : http://editorial.equities.com/tag/ken-calhoun /page/2/
[11:27 am] joeytsa  : 2 seperate links
[11:27 am] taco  : ty
[11:27 am] joeytsa  : ES sitting on R2 support, waiting for buy signal
[11:29 am] joeytsa  : ES sell signal under R2 now
[11:29 am] joeytsa  : thats 2 sell signals without a buy signal in between
[11:31 am] joeytsa  : YM on 30t down move
[11:32 am] joeytsa  : yeah Ed, lower high 15 minutes ago gave nice entry
[11:32 am] Ed : missed the GC but was all over ES
[11:33 am] joeytsa  : starting to really like futures moreso than stocks
[11:33 am] joeytsa  : unless of course a stock makes a crazy move
[11:34 am] joeytsa  : so harry reid is made at reps for a plan B, but not upset at 0bama's plan that isnt balanced
[11:35 am] joeytsa  : Ed: are you watching any other futures besides ES?
[11:36 am] Ed : not too much today
[11:36 am] Ed : usually I do
[11:36 am] Ed : GC  SI  ES  CL  6E  6J
[11:36 am] joeytsa  : i think the trickiest part is finding the "best" chart timeframe to use
[11:37 am] Ed : called work in progress
[11:37 am] joeytsa  : nice, not using SI, much higher margins i see
[11:38 am] joeytsa  : i have the others you have but not up on charts fulltime
[11:38 am] Ed : its like 8k with AMP
[11:38 am] joeytsa  : $6480 for me
[11:39 am] joeytsa  : thats intraday,  $21,600 overnight
[11:39 am] Ed : 1500 for mini silfer
[11:39 am] Ed : silfer=silver
[11:39 am] doji  : Is that per contract Ed?
[11:39 am] joeytsa  : YM is decent on shorter time charts, TF seems like it needs a bit longer term
[11:39 am] Ed : yes per contract
[11:40 am] joeytsa  : how is the volume on the silver mini?
[11:40 am] Ed : I think some places may be like 18k for 1 contract for day trading
[11:40 am] joeytsa  : i think Mitch mentioned that once
[11:40 am] taco  : QI? comex mini silver?
[11:41 am] apple  : nice drop on WHR
[11:41 am] doji  : I see for /SI in TDA $15,300
[11:41 am] taco  : is that the symbol? you are talking about. the mini silver?
[11:41 am] doji  : Initial Margin requirement
[11:41 am] doji  : no silver futures Taco
[11:41 am] doji  : /SI
[11:41 am] joeytsa  : SI is the full contract
[11:42 am] taco  : whats the mini called?
[11:42 am] joeytsa  : i think QI is the emini..just not sure if it has the vol i like
[11:42 am] Ed : YI is mini for me, Im with AMP
[11:42 am] joeytsa  : yeah..the
[11:43 am] doji  : The minis for CL, GC and SI is lower compared to the full contract as I see in my charts at TDA
[11:43 am] joeytsa  : "Y's" are the minis usually
[11:43 am] apple  : right doji
[11:43 am] joeytsa  : QM is emini crude
[11:43 am] doji  : right Joey
[11:44 am] joeytsa  : but stick with the ones that are more liquid
[11:44 am] doji  : I was watching befgore the minis but the signals are not as clear as the full contract
[11:44 am] doji  : execpt for the /ES
[11:44 am] doji  : obviously
[11:44 am] joeytsa  : i like the minis for indices, full for metals
[11:45 am] joeytsa  : ES,YM,TF,NQ indices for example
[11:45 am] doji  : I agree Joey
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : if you have the monitor space, you can dedicate 1 each to indices,metals,currencies
[11:46 am] doji  : My next year target is trading futures.... 1 contract at the time... hahaha
[11:46 am] Ed : u can do well with just 1 contract doji
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : nothing wrong with 1 contract
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : then you pyramid it
[11:47 am] doji  : The good part with TDA is that you can have deatched windows for FOREX, Futures and Stocks
[11:47 am] joeytsa  : 1 contract, once acct up 50%, go to 2 contracts etc..just an idea
[11:47 am] doji  : and do not have to pay for the datafeed
[11:48 am] apple  : that sounds like a good deal, doji
[11:49 am] apple  : got to run to pick up robert.  be back in a bit
[11:49 am] joeytsa  : be safe
[11:49 am] Ed : c ya apple
[11:55 am] doji  : FB on a steady run since 10:30 ....
[12:09 pm] doji  : Anyone swing APPL? I missed my chance yesterday
[12:10 pm] joeytsa  : not me doji
[12:10 pm] doji  : Dang it could have been a nice swing for x-mas
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : not my type of chart, but i can see how others see it differently..plus it dependsd on that person's holdtime
[12:11 pm] doji  : My last week put/call strategy didn't work... I close both for a loss....
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : market boost can help AAPL up move, back to ma's though
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : maybe throw a few calls at it??
[12:13 pm] doji  : Not sure... unless it breaks $550 with volume....
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : or trade it up to $550, then wait for next long over
[12:14 pm] joeytsa  : i honestly havent been in "swing-mode" for a long time though
[12:14 pm] joeytsa  : need to re-focus the mind over the next couple weeks and be ready for january run
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : victor: are you still here?
[12:19 pm] reshef  : G.night to all
[12:20 pm] joeytsa  : bye reshef
[12:20 pm] Ed : c ya reshef
[12:30 pm] victor51  : yes joey
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : you mentioned your IRA, is it a ROTH or regular?
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : ROTH grows tax-free at least
[12:31 pm] victor51  : regular
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : gotya
[12:33 pm] joeytsa  : russia sending navy squadron to the mediterranean
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : not sure that news is anything big or not, just passing it along
[12:34 pm] victor51  : Bye everyone. see you tomorrow
[12:34 pm] Ed : c ya vic
[12:34 pm] Ed : thx joey
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : bye victor
[12:35 pm] joeytsa  : think it more to help evacuate russians from syria..but i assume because of escalating tensions
[12:36 pm] Ed : there has been fighting in those regions since Cain and Able
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : no kidding
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : i read that book :)
[12:38 pm] Ed : sadly we know what happened
[12:39 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, and how it ends up
[12:39 pm] skydiver  : good book joey and Ed :)
[12:39 pm] joeytsa  : sure is Rev. Sky  :)
[12:39 pm] Ed : sure is sky
[12:39 pm] skydiver  : how did you find out?  :)
[12:40 pm] Ed : kept bumping my head against a brick wall
[12:40 pm] joeytsa  : im italian, i can find out anythign haha
[12:40 pm] skydiver  : my daughter-in-law is Italian and boy that 's the truth joey :)
[12:41 pm] joeytsa  : :)
[12:44 pm] joeytsa  : love these Lightning audio signals
[12:44 pm] Ed : u just like the voice
[12:44 pm] joeytsa  : you can read or get other stuff done, then hear the signal and look up
[12:45 pm] joeytsa  : makes me more productive
[12:45 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, and the voice isnt so bad either :)
[12:45 pm] joeytsa  : low priced FOLD
[12:45 pm] joeytsa  : not  my type usually
[12:46 pm] joeytsa  : 50-60c spike down
[12:46 pm] joeytsa  : letting FOLD go, not for me
[12:46 pm] joeytsa  : gave a bunch of scan alerts though
[12:47 pm] joeytsa  : meredith whitney bullish on banks
[12:50 pm] joeytsa  : seemed like better action today than yesterday at least..maybe carryover tomorrow
[12:50 pm] joeytsa  : Thank you Mitch, Ed, everyone..nice calls, have a great day, see you tomorrow
[12:50 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:51 pm] skydiver  : bye joey -- see you in the morning
[12:51 pm] taco  : yes, thanks again Mitch, ed and all. see you in the am
[12:52 pm] joeytsa  : be interesting to see if the NYSE BPI gets back to column of X's soon..could set up nice bull run, will keep eye on it
[12:52 pm] Ed : c ya taco
[12:53 pm] murano  : FNP was overe before I could post
[12:57 pm] qwert  : hahaha
[12:57 pm] murano  : I need more time
[12:58 pm] murano  : Can you do that on my Lightning so I don't have to do any work
[12:59 pm] skydiver  : Thanks again Mitch, Ed and the rest of you . . . learning lots :)   see you in the morning
[12:59 pm] murano  : See ya'll tomorrow

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