Chat Highlights From 12/15/2011

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:18 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:19 am] Kris : CYS, CTRP, MCP and VECO as possible short trades
[06:19 am] Kris : Today I'm watching MRK, SO, VZ, DECK, WLT, FDX and SWKS for possible long trades
[06:20 am] Brent : good morning
[06:24 am] Ed : good morning
[06:28 am] Kris : 2 minutes! Time to Rock!
[06:29 am] Mitch K: looking for this morning's trades to be biased to the LONG side today.
[06:30 am] Kris : SWKS long half
[06:30 am] Mitch K: we have had 3 consecutive down days with the last two strong.
[06:31 am] Kris : WYNN long half
[06:32 am] Kris : FDX long half
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching LRCX for bottom
[06:33 am] Ed : watching DECK,GMCR,FSLR potential longs
[06:33 am] Kris : DMND long half
[06:33 am] Kris : GLNG long half
[06:35 am] Kris : MCP short half
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching GMCR for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching ITMN for bottom
[06:36 am] Brent : watching ANV for a short
[06:37 am] Kris : watching CREE for a short
[06:38 am] Kris : long second half FDX
[06:38 am] Kris : long second half WYNN
[06:39 am] Mitch K: quick short in APKT
[06:40 am] Mitch K: new low on GMCR , SHOULD STOP
[06:42 am] Mitch K: WATCHING pay
[06:43 am] Mitch K: cover APKT short
[06:46 am] Ed : watching DMND
[06:48 am] Mitch K: don't buy PAY until stops going down
[06:49 am] Brent : consider reducing ANV, if short
[06:53 am] Kris : out half FDX long
[06:53 am] Mitch K: bounces are quick so far, and then failing
[06:54 am] Kris : out half MCP short
[06:55 am] Mitch K: watching BIDU for long
[06:57 am] Mitch K: BIDU looks bottoming
[06:58 am] Mitch K: still watching ITMN
[06:59 am] Ed : reduce DMND
[06:59 am] Kris : out another 1/4 MCP short
[06:59 am] Mitch K: small short on VPHM
[07:00 am] Kris : GLNG long second half
[07:00 am] Mitch K: ITMN bouncing
[07:00 am] Mitch K: SPY bouncing
[07:01 am] Mitch K: same thing with ITMN, weak bounce, fails and then lower lows
[07:02 am] Brent : consider reducing more ANV
[07:02 am] Ed : watching ZOLL
[07:02 am] Mitch K: but still watch it for another bottom, like others we have seen today
[07:03 am] Ed : ZOLL halted
[07:03 am] Mitch K: chart on left, PAY, is what has been pattern so far, weak first bottom, then fails, and 2nd bottom strong
[07:03 am] Mitch K: watch PAY for shortable top
[07:04 am] Mitch K: ZOLL looks like a buyout news, looking at pattern, just guessing, don't trade that comment
[07:06 am] Mitch K: there is your top in PAY
[07:06 am] Mitch K: watching the two casino resort stocks,
[07:06 am] Mitch K: WYNN, LVS
[07:13 am] Mitch K: don't trust the charts you see, lost esignal charts
[07:13 am] Mitch K: my other 2 data feeds fine
[07:14 am] Mitch K: ITMN trying to bounce
[07:20 am] Ed : FSLR lod[07:20 am] Ed : holding last 1/4
[07:20 am] Ed : reduce more DMND
[07:25 am] Ed : ITMN lod[07:35 am] Ed : ACOM
[07:36 am] Ed : BIDU still in downtrend
[07:39 am] Ed : reduce some ACOM
[07:41 am] Ed : out all DMND
[07:43 am] Mitch K: anyone short that PAY top?
[07:43 am] Mitch K: just under $39
[07:45 am] Mitch K: low of day on indexes, should bounce
[07:50 am] Mitch K: turning over now
[07:50 am] Mitch K: watching ITMN for top
[07:56 am] Mitch K: indexes bouncing should continue to help larger cap popular stocks like BIDU on right chart
[07:58 am] Mitch K: if you find that you are not getting the full profit in a trade or feel you are sloppy in execution, remind yourself this "I will follow the indicators, i will follow the indicators, I WILL follow the indicators
[08:00 am] Ed : ZOLL open
[08:01 am] Mitch K: if you are worse off than that, I mean can't do anything right sort of feeling, go back to a virtual platform and practice for a month, two, or three. and understand the technique you are trading or testing. THen get good stats from that, i mean performance stats. and try using Ninja Traders or other virtual trading platform that can keep and retain by the day, all your trades so you can evaluate
[08:01 am] Mitch K: ITMN stochastics have to turn up to get a signal
[08:01 am] Mitch K: still no signal yet to get out of ITMN short, although stochastics is at the bottom range of the channel
[08:01 am] Mitch K: vol is not most indicator for me go4it
[08:02 am] Mitch K: i can explain this chart on ITMN if i remember to later
[08:02 am] Mitch K: it's not the money doji, it's the percentage profit, which is about 10%
[08:02 am] Mitch K: ok, should be a cover point here on ITMN
[08:03 am] Mitch K: look in blue circle, stoch not pointing up yet
[08:03 am] Mitch K: something is going on with company prob, but you don't care yet, you only care about what the charts are saying
[08:03 am] Mitch K: stoch still not pointing up, you see that
[08:04 am] Mitch K: now verify this chart with another data feed
[08:04 am] Mitch K: ok, stoch still didn't turn up yet but getting real close
[08:05 am] Mitch K: i better explain this now before i forget
[08:05 am] Mitch K: ok, just a sec
[08:05 am] Mitch K: stochastics[08:08 am] Mitch K: ok let me explain what i am talking about on an oscillator like stochastics. best in writing so people can read it later
[08:09 am] Mitch K: first you should remember that at the bottom and top of a move there is usually the highest volatility
[08:10 am] Mitch K: also know that stochastics, as all oscillators tell you, in general, that you may have an overbought or oversold condition
[08:11 am] Mitch K: on this last couple comments, not debatable, so take it for face value. other comments i make or that you may hear in your career, some are debatable open to interpretation or opinion and some are not
[08:12 am] Mitch K: pink circle, at the sell point is a sell point for LONG or SHORT, it's the same thing right? or am I right?
[08:13 am] Mitch K: not a lot of volatility here, bounced off 15.50 area on ITMN then went up 6.5%, which is great money on a scalp, right or right?
[08:14 am] Mitch K: blue circle at bottom is buy to cover or buy long, means the same, right or am i right?
[08:14 am] Mitch K: doesn't matter if you are going long or you are covering a short, same signal
[08:15 am] Mitch K: btw, if you are having problems with your size of announcements box, stretch the whole trading room window-browser, and then stretch out right to left the width of the user chat and announcements boxes
[08:15 am] Mitch K: look at bottom in volume, look at the volatility on the candles in the top blue circle, volume as at bottom blue circle
[08:16 am] Mitch K: and stretch out the top to make taller
[08:16 am] Mitch K: right now, we are not talking about the drop we are seeing now in ITMN, we are talking about the move we felt was high probability, this second drop is another issue
[08:17 am] Mitch K: you might want to copy this chat history by right clicking in the gray scroll bar area and copy all chat history and save
[08:18 am] Mitch K: so back to the volatility that we normally see at tops and bottoms. and on this case, the top blue circle, which is getting shifted by the resizing of the chart, had that higher volatility with big candles at that bottom, right?
[08:19 am] Mitch K: 5 star tip here: since the volatility is high, a stock or any financial instrument like futures, forex, doesn't matter what it is, will move a lot before the indicator will respond. FACT, not opinion
[08:21 am] Mitch K: so you can use the price, or you should use the price in those cases where high volatility is present to gauge if you should cover that short. and that is what the call was based on
[08:23 am] Mitch K: another 5 star tip: you can see the previous 3 candles, i believe at 800am, 801, 802 have bigger and faster drops, with increasing volume, that tells you, from other repeated lessons I have given, that we are getting sellers exhausting. Many of you know that is my favorite long chart setup. even though it didn't have the follow through, and since you don't know how much it will move, it isn't relevant at the time you make a decision to buy to cover or buy long. you have to take the odds that that is a good time to cover
[08:24 am] Mitch K: I'm probably giving you too much to think about, several things to come into play here
[08:25 am] Mitch K: so let's talk a little more about the bottom blue circle, well only one right now
[08:27 am] Mitch K: stochastics or any oscillator can stay at an extreme for a while, it's the reversal move on that indicator that tells you a signal but as i mentioned earlier, you can use price reversal on HIGH VOLATILITY as a signal, that's more based on experience but you can learn this really fast
[08:28 am] Mitch K: look how many candles it stayed level, about 4 or 5
[08:28 am] Mitch K: that blue mark is where stochastics started hitting bottom right?
[08:28 am] Mitch K: that in itself is too early to cover the short
[08:31 am] Mitch K: but the volatility on candles started at 804, price wanted to reverse. also a $16.50 stock dropped about $2.75 at that point or 20% potential profit on that one short...conclusion: start covering
[08:32 am] Mitch K: you can't say, well, it went down another 10%. yeah, well you don't know that is going to happen and we are not working with that trade. the odds are that will be the right decision a high percentage of the time.
[08:33 am] Mitch K: you aren't going for perfection, that's a 4 star tip, or maybe 3 star. you are trying to get the most profit the majority of times. it's really probabilities when you think about it
[08:33 am] Mitch K: you need this kind of mindset.
[08:34 am] Mitch K: i am not a gambler but studied it heavily in college statistics class.
[08:35 am] Mitch K: if you have 6 reds on roulette table in a row, consecutive. the odds are very high you can start betting on black to show up and if it is red an 8th consecutive time, you can double or triple your bet
[08:35 am] Mitch K: oops, sorry, 7th, not 8th
[08:36 am] Mitch K: and that's the basis, the very foundation of consistent profitable trading
[08:36 am] Mitch K: you have to think this way in stocks, when certain occurrences or conditions come together, that the odds are heavily in your favor to take that trade
[08:37 am] Mitch K: i think you can get the idea of what i am saying
[08:37 am] Mitch K: no it isn't 50% chance of coming up red again mike, not if you have had 7 consecutive reds.
[08:37 am] Mitch K: there are two factors mike in the example
[08:38 am] Mitch K: ok lesson over
[09:04 am] Mitch K: i am going to follow the indicators, repeat after me, now say that in your sleep tonight
[09:06 am] Mitch K: did anyone get long WYNN or LVS earlier?
[09:25 am] Ed : LULU watching
[09:55 am] Ed : reduce LULU if went short
[09:04 am] Mitch K: i am going to follow the indicators, repeat after me, now say that in your sleep tonight
[09:06 am] Mitch K: did anyone get long WYNN or LVS earlier?
[09:25 am] Ed : LULU watching
[09:55 am] Ed : reduce LULU if went short
[10:07 am] Brent : SPY holding here at trendline support
[10:13 am] Ed : anyone short ZOLL,
[10:13 am] Ed : from earlier
[10:20 am] Ed : early but watching ATHN
[10:23 am] Ed : reduce ATHN
[10:29 am] Ed : CVX, permanent band sought by BRAZIL
[10:38 am] Ed : advanced trade
[10:38 am] Ed : watching LIVE
[10:39 am] Ed : very small float on LIVE
[10:40 am] Mitch K: ATHN should give another bounce soon
[10:52 am] Mitch K: watching CERN
[10:58 am] Ed : reduce LIVE
[11:19 am] Mitch K: 1 MIN CHART ON LEFT, 2 MIN ON RIGHT CHART ATHN
[11:19 am] Mitch K: ATHN
[11:19 am] Mitch K: 1 MIN CHART ON LEFT, 2 MIN ON RIGHT CHART ATHN
[11:23 am] Mitch K: looking for 46 area for ATHN
[11:24 am] Mitch K: and the other half to charity
[11:24 am] Mitch K: do not look at the money
[11:24 am] Mitch K: follow the indicators
[11:24 am] Mitch K: if you look at the money, then you have to give me half
[11:24 am] Mitch K: that's your punishment
[11:25 am] Mitch K: don't sell all at once
[11:27 am] Mitch K: but you trade what you guys think, not what i think
[11:27 am] Mitch K: ok, my take on ATHN is it likely consolidates, goes sideways with soft pullback if any, and starts trending up, just a hunch
[11:28 am] Ed : morgan keenan defending shares of ATHN
[11:28 am] Mitch K: and don't wait for me to tell you what to do
[11:30 am] Mitch K: it is still heading up, what you are looking for a is a higher high, like this candle here on the 1 min if it makes higher high
[11:30 am] Mitch K: you want me to walk you through ATHN?
[11:31 am] Ed : deutch bank defending also
[11:31 am] Mitch K: its 1131 pacific time, we have 90 minutes, plenty of time
[11:31 am] Mitch K: just hold now
[11:31 am] Mitch K: right there you see that'
[11:31 am] Mitch K: thanks ed[11:31 am] Mitch K: that's green light you needed to hold
[11:31 am] Mitch K: we could trend up for quite a ways,
[11:32 am] Mitch K: for about 8 minutes.
[11:32 am] Mitch K: now, the reason why that candle was important is because we were sort of stuck in a range of 44 to 44.50
[11:32 am] Mitch K: for about 8 minutes.
[11:32 am] Mitch K: i know it's easy to see stochastics at top of range but that is not the sell signal
[11:32 am] Mitch K: this little red candle here is nothing so far
[11:34 am] Mitch K: what is happening now is the buyers are getting more power, buyers digesting the sell orders and this should accelerate or it could accelerate up at a faster rate
[11:34 am] Mitch K: you want more play by play thoughts, i tell you but could be static interference for some
[11:35 am] Mitch K: now look for higher high than the 2 candles ago on 2 min chart
[11:35 am] Mitch K: ok, what you see is a steady gradual uptrend in the moving average, set at 5
[11:36 am] Mitch K: i am staring more at the 1 min on this stock now
[11:36 am] Mitch K: my eyes also look right to the 2 min chart
[11:36 am] Mitch K: not looking at the stochastics here, just looking at moving average, and trading action
[11:36 am] Mitch K: you should have a 1 and 2 min chart up side by side, not like i have it
[11:37 am] Mitch K: ok, watch this down candle here, it should rebound back
[11:37 am] Mitch K: so when you sell, sell in portions, not all at once
[11:37 am] Mitch K: that down candle was probably a big order, large order
[11:38 am] Mitch K: notice the 2 min stochastics turning over, crossing down now but still isn't a true sell signal yet
[11:39 am] Mitch K: ok could sell some here
[11:40 am] Mitch K: ok, this candle starting down could be problem
[11:40 am] Mitch K: what you look for now in this situation is high volatility. what did i teach earlier, 5 star tip: volatility is usually, almost always at the top and bottom of the move and i dont see it yet here
[11:41 am] Mitch K: but it is still a consolidation move, sideways action with slight downtrend, i think buy on the dips is going to be pattern but we will see
[11:41 am] Mitch K: we look for a couple more candles flat and then up higher high, which would be good
[11:42 am] Mitch K: ok right there
[11:42 am] Mitch K: ok, this candle did it in one candle, tells me still strong
[11:42 am] Mitch K: ok, we are good for more upside now for a few min
[11:42 am] Mitch K: probably 3-4 min
[11:42 am] Mitch K: you look for higher highs on candle,
[11:42 am] Mitch K: ok right there
[11:42 am] Mitch K: ok, we are good for more upside now for a few min
[11:42 am] Mitch K: probably 3-4 min
[11:43 am] Mitch K: next thing to look for is higher high of the red down candle about 6-7 min ago, all looking at 1 min now
[11:43 am] Mitch K: you guys still hanging in there long?
[11:44 am] Mitch K: don't ever try to short this kind of chart that went down from 50 to 41, you get run over
[11:44 am] Mitch K: each time you see a higher move, you have more time on upside.
[11:44 am] Mitch K: i resized window to give bigger look on candles
[11:44 am] Mitch K: ok higher high, new high on this run
[11:44 am] Mitch K: ok, we are good for another 4-5 min,
[11:44 am] Mitch K: see that?
[11:45 am] Mitch K: esp for those who don't listen and got heavy
[11:45 am] Mitch K: we have 7.1 mil vol, so don't have to worry about vol drying up on you
[11:46 am] Mitch K: i draw what i am looking for or what is likely to happen
[11:46 am] Mitch K: resized window, that's all i just did
[11:47 am] Mitch K: that type of pattern, it's a trending pattern, not same one as what we trade in first 90 minutes of each day
[11:47 am] Mitch K: that's what is likely,
[11:48 am] Mitch K: now problem, this chart won't fall apart now and spike down hard. all the bad news is out
[11:49 am] Mitch K: come on, be honest
[11:49 am] Mitch K: now honest question, how many of you are ticked off you didn't by ATHN
[11:49 am] Mitch K: what you often see with these is the guys who sell, get ticked off at them and turn around and buy, so it could accelerate to the upside. if you see candles that get really steep, i tend to let a few of those build and sell gradually into those
[11:50 am] Mitch K: ok, now your reaction is like everyone else and so people can't take it any longer and throw in the towel and buy, close to the top
[11:51 am] Mitch K: it's easier, calmer more relaxing
[11:51 am] Mitch K: no sell signal in sight yet, not even a clue
[11:51 am] Mitch K: ok, now spend more time looking at 2 min chart now
[11:51 am] Mitch K: ok, now what you do, is go look for news, take a min to scan latest headlines, best to have real good news service
[11:52 am] Mitch K: could get a tail slide here, just a small one
[11:52 am] Mitch K: nope, no tail slide
[11:52 am] Mitch K: see if anything past what ed said earlier that deutch was defending, or what is "reiterate buy rating" type of headline
[11:53 am] Brent : watching LRCX for a bounce
[11:53 am] Mitch K: chart on right is 2 min LRCX
[11:53 am] Mitch K: check this out, S&P 500 close to low of day and ATHN ignoring that
[11:53 am] Mitch K: nice chart pattern for long soon in LRCX
[11:54 am] Mitch K: no sell signal on ATHN, not close, let it run
[11:54 am] Mitch K: not ready yet either
[11:55 am] Mitch K: ATHN?
[11:55 am] Mitch K: i think mike or doji said 48, might get it, but not the focus. focus is on trading action and moving average indicator
[11:55 am] Mitch K: that down candle is important here on 1 min but look how that gets bought up
[11:55 am] Mitch K: you guys still long?
[11:56 am] Mitch K: look at that, bought right up
[11:56 am] Mitch K: stand up, shake, walk around, don't talk to anyone else
[11:57 am] Mitch K: still healthy trading action but getting a little toppy for this top, more volatility, expect soft pullback like i drew earlier
[11:58 am] Mitch K: this right here is going to be same as this blue circled area
[11:59 am] Mitch K: reworded: we are going through the same thing right now as what you see in the blue circle
[11:59 am] Mitch K: this is acting very healthy for a long
[12:00 pm] Mitch K: doesn't even want to pullback usually you see more of a pullback, consolidating but a real bullish one. more of a pause than consolidation
[12:00 pm] Mitch K: LRCX bouncing
[12:01 pm] Mitch K: 1 min on left 2 min on right
[12:01 pm] Mitch K: easier to stare at 2 min chart now
[12:01 pm] Mitch K: next healthy sign is breaking through 47 next 2 min
[12:01 pm] Mitch K: still looks good to hold
[12:01 pm] Mitch K: you all have 2 charts side by side right?
[12:02 pm] Mitch K: but whatever you are used to,
[12:02 pm] Mitch K: i like the 2 min myself,
[12:02 pm] Mitch K: now the 2 min moving average when it flattens out, can use that for a sell signal
[12:02 pm] Mitch K: on 2 min
[12:03 pm] Mitch K: ok pay attention, i got another idea
[12:03 pm] Mitch K: ok, that's probably the top
[12:03 pm] Mitch K: sell signal, now what i do if i am long still, i wait or look
[12:03 pm] Mitch K: that down candle is important here,
[12:04 pm] Mitch K: if this drops to 44.50 or so on this next candle on 1 min, you can buy this first drop and get a bounce but it's a little tiring, exhausting, for the young and strong
[12:04 pm] Mitch K: still hasn't gone down enough but if it keeps dropping, going to be a tradable long
[12:05 pm] Mitch K: looking for 50-70 cents max
[12:05 pm] Mitch K: nice to hear qwert, this isn't over
[12:05 pm] Mitch K: ok ok right here
[12:06 pm] Mitch K: if you see a down candle
[12:06 pm] Mitch K: if you see a down candle stop, forget this bounce, sell off , if it makes new low on this drop, you sell and forget the bounce idea
[12:06 pm] Mitch K: [12:07 pm] Mitch K: and you only do it on the first drop, that's about a 3 star tip
[12:07 pm] Mitch K: but this is what i was looking for here
[12:07 pm] Mitch K: it takes a lot of concentration and energy to do another trade after that 13% profit potential
[12:07 pm] Mitch K: ok there's the 70 cents
[12:07 pm] Mitch K: so you have to gauge if you can handle it or want to
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: ok, all over for me, that's the high probability trade, one big one and one little baby one,
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: was that fun or what?
[12:09 pm] Ed : Mitch is "DA MAN"
[12:10 pm] Mitch K: or money in the bucket, whatever you want to call it
[12:10 pm] Mitch K: the little trade we just made at the end is icing, sort of what i call spouse money
[12:11 pm] Mitch K: because people just saw a stock come from 41 to 47 and the want more, they want to make money again.
[12:11 pm] Mitch K: but that spike down on those 2 big down candles, that's usually, high percentage of time, that's the end of the run
[12:11 pm] Mitch K: why did that last bounce happen?
[12:12 pm] Mitch K: and it isn't worth playing around now with it. you will be just giving it back to others,
[12:13 pm] Mitch K: repeat after me: it's over
[12:13 pm] Mitch K: so keep this in your head: why give up profits on a lower probability trade, a dumb trade, after having such a nice profit? just remember that if you are going to keep trading ATHN. the high probability setup is over, its over
[12:14 pm] Mitch K: now what you do is take a break, go eat, walk outside, pet the dog, take your weekly shower, something else
[12:15 pm] Mitch K: you want to end on a good trade, not something demoralizing or dumb or something that lacks discipline.
[12:16 pm] Mitch K: then paste to a word file
[12:16 pm] Mitch K: to copy all chat history, right click in the gray scroll bar area and select copy all history
[12:17 pm] Brent : consider reducing LRCX here
[12:17 pm] Mitch K: thank ed for alerting us
[12:17 pm] Mitch K: you can replay the esignal chart over again later on, repeatedly
[12:18 pm] Brent : next target 36.45 area but it's getting late in the day so tighten stop
[12:18 pm] Mitch K: I'm taking break now, long one; does not matter what happens to ATHN, we got the sweet spot of the trade
[12:21 pm] Ed : nice one Brent
[12:22 pm] Brent : If anyone didn't get distracted high fiving on ATHC and got LRCX, consider reducing more
[12:22 pm] Ed : lol[12:24 pm] Ed : 1
[12:36 pm] Mitch K: only 25 min left
[12:36 pm] Mitch K: watch for bottom in ITMN
[12:38 pm] Ed : approaching recent low 12.60
[12:38 pm] Mitch K: ITMN should bounce
[12:39 pm] Mitch K: looking for just under 13.50
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: good time to watch level 2
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: not holding
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: use limit orders on most orders
[12:41 pm] Mitch K: big limit orders to sell at 13, can't break through
[12:41 pm] Mitch K: consider selling ITMN
[12:41 pm] Mitch K: consider selling ITMN on limit order, try under 13 for most of your long
[12:41 pm] Mitch K: nice chart pattern though,
[12:42 pm] Mitch K: look at that, 3 minutes stuck below 13
[12:42 pm] Mitch K: that's not what ATHN did at bottom, it drove fast and hard
[12:43 pm] Mitch K: 1 min chart here, 2-3 big candles with high vol.
[12:43 pm] Mitch K: see that candle at bottom on ATHN?
[12:44 pm] Mitch K: hardly even a dead cat bounce with ITMN, just dead
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a great night, see you all in the morning
[01:00 pm] Ed : have an awesome evening guys/gals
[06:03 am] joeytsa : interesting to see unempl claims come in at 366k...lowest number in a while
[06:03 am] joeytsa : either they were way off or the TIC # i have is wrong??
[06:04 am] joeytsa : came in at 4.8B with 53.4B forecast??
[06:05 am] joeytsa : can anyone confirm that TIC #?
[06:05 am] joeytsa : gap downs: DECK,DMND
[06:06 am] eyes : joey with the gap down on Deck you looking to go long
[06:06 am] joeytsa : gap up: FDX,GMCR,BRCM,AMZN,AAPL,WBMD
[06:06 am] joeytsa : let me check the news on that and daily chart
[06:07 am] joeytsa : might look for a small bounce to short into
[06:08 am] joeytsa : FDX might set up a nice swing short
[06:08 am] joeytsa : they are popping right into res
[06:09 am] joeytsa : esp on a break below 76 for add on
[06:12 am] truck : agree joey on FDX!
[06:13 am] doji : GMCR is not convincing in the pre-market
[06:14 am] doji : Same with BRCM for short Joey, any thoughts?
[06:14 am] joeytsa : truck: i used to use FDX as an economic indicator, been following it again recently
[06:14 am] joeytsa : BRCM definitely in a downtrend
[06:22 am] skydiver : JOY pre-market has jumped up a bit
[06:23 am] apple : i'll say, almost 2 pts[06:32 am] doji : FSLR
[06:32 am] doji : S from opening
[06:32 am] mhaus : LEAP
[06:33 am] joeytsa : APA might be toppy?
[06:33 am] doji : out 1/2 FSLR S
[06:36 am] skydiver : SINA - rumors
[06:36 am] joeytsa : out DECk short
[06:37 am] derns : AMZN
[06:37 am] mikewd2 -: SINA moves up on speculation Weibo has signed several large ad deals
[06:39 am] joeytsa : CREE nice spike
[06:39 am] joeytsa : PAY diving
[06:41 am] observer : thx, FDX Kris .48 pts[06:41 am] skydiver : DNDN - rumors
[06:41 am] joeytsa : nice trade on FDX..great call kris[06:42 am] doji : CREE S
[06:43 am] doji : SPY at resistance
[06:43 am] skydiver : JOY - S 77.11 covered 76.06
[06:43 am] doji : out 1/2 CREE
[06:43 am] derns : DMND
[06:43 am] truck : covered AVN,,32.34
[06:44 am] skydiver : Thanks Mitch
[06:44 am] doji : All out CREE
[06:46 am] joeytsa : GMCR with fleas
[06:47 am] lightning : out 1/2 CREE
[06:47 am] joeytsa : all out GMCR s :)
[06:47 am] joeytsa : almost got stopped, turned back down for me
[06:48 am] michael : excellent joey
[06:48 am] lightning : covered another 1/4 CREE
[06:49 am] weston : anyone getting long DMND?
[06:49 am] doji : DMND is candidate for short
[06:49 am] lightning : weston, i was watching for a bounce at 26.44 based on the daily, but was busy with three other trades at the time...missed it.
[06:49 am] joeytsa : BIDU lod, on support though
[06:50 am] doji : any news? SPY moving up
[06:51 am] doji : CREE, PAY, GMCR bottoming
[06:51 am] doji : all out FSLR
[06:51 am] eyes : is anyone long Pay
[06:52 am] doji : I am from 38.06
[06:52 am] doji : PAY Eyes
[06:52 am] doji : GMCR weak
[06:53 am] lightning : bye bye DMND
[06:53 am] joeytsa : closed the short on PAY, didn't go long eyes
[06:53 am] skydiver : DECK - shares being defended
[06:53 am] truck : DMND ,,,got me, stopped
[06:54 am] doji : DMND more downside
[06:54 am] vilazio : I am long WYNN full but not going up. Have to wait?
[06:54 am] mikewd2 -: SINA
[06:54 am] Mitch K: EYES, go on virtual trading, no real money
[06:55 am] joeytsa : AAPL getting ready to break 380
[06:55 am] doji : Did you closed your PAY position Eyes?
[06:56 am] joeytsa : guess not on AAPL..will keep watching
[06:56 am] eyes : I didn't get in pay
[06:56 am] mikewd2 -: 3 min fade on BIDU, possibly?
[06:56 am] doji : BIDU ugly
[06:58 am] derns : long DMND 26.24
[06:58 am] doji : BIUD needs to break 115
[06:58 am] doji : S1
[06:58 am] lisas : philly fed 2 min
[06:58 am] joeytsa : BIDU just hit my stop
[06:58 am] doji : NFLX new lod[06:58 am] joeytsa : only went half on that
[06:59 am] eyes : L Bidu 14.78
[06:59 am] derns : tight stop on remaining half on DMND
[06:59 am] derns : stopped on DMND
[07:00 am] derns : Philly FED strong
[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: philly fed index 10.3
[07:00 am] joeytsa : how are these numbers coming in so big..double expected on philly fed??
[07:00 am] joeytsa : still trying to confirm the TIC #
[07:01 am] anthonyb : LULU
[07:01 am] doji : SPY reversing
[07:02 am] joeytsa : s Bidu 115, covered 114.70
[07:02 am] apple : good job joey
[07:02 am] apple : thx for FDX K
[07:02 am] joeytsa : chickened out..market turned up a bit
[07:02 am] vilazio : WYNN stopped my god
[07:02 am] doji : PAY moving nicely
[07:03 am] doji : Eyes, you missed it!
[07:03 am] joeytsa : missed beauty short on WYNN ...usually keep that one up too
[07:03 am] doji : Thanks Micth[07:04 am] apple : thx MK
[07:06 am] lightning : out last part of FDX long.
[07:06 am] joeytsa : me too mitch[07:06 am] joeytsa : nice lightning
[07:07 am] lightning : I'm still nursing that last bit of CREE short...
[07:07 am] truck : great call Brent on ANV. Even with me out way to early.
[07:08 am] apple : there goes BIDU
[07:08 am] doji : FSLR has fleas again today
[07:09 am] doji : May lose 30 today?
[07:09 am] mikewd2 -: LVS L 40.37
[07:10 am] doji : SOY testing support
[07:10 am] doji : SPY
[07:10 am] derns : are folks selling into the pop today?
[07:11 am] joeytsa : that's the smart play
[07:11 am] joeytsa : why make it hard on yourself
[07:11 am] doji : PAY has held against the market so far
[07:11 am] apple : right joey
[07:12 am] richard : Watching ITMN
[07:13 am] michael : FSLR turning into fade
[07:13 am] doji : Watching FSLR
[07:14 am] joeytsa : DECK lod[07:16 am] joeytsa : VMW vol spike
[07:18 am] doji : GMCR turning up
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: WYNN bouncing
[07:19 am] eyes : DFS
[07:19 am] joeytsa : BIDU just spitting profits on the short side this morning
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: as is SINA
[07:20 am] doji : Watching PAY
[07:20 am] derns : I got long in DMND again...27.12..bouncing
[07:20 am] joeytsa : first real potential buy signal in WYNN...still don't trust it :)
[07:20 am] joeytsa : market turned up a bit
[07:21 am] derns : oops..Ed..just saw your comment...will reduce and up the stop
[07:21 am] Ed : no problem nice trade derns[07:22 am] doji : PAY long 38.02
[07:22 am] mikewd2 -: what's your stop doji?
[07:23 am] apple : hard to trade without my charts... PAY was great, thx
[07:23 am] doji : 37.72 Mike
[07:23 am] mikewd2 -: ty[07:26 am] joeytsa : out WYNN s, bucket drop
[07:27 am] joeytsa : SHLD weak..not playing though
[07:29 am] joeytsa : anyone catch CRM s this morning?
[07:30 am] doji : stopped in PAY...
[07:30 am] doji : first red out of 4 greens
[07:31 am] apple : i did too, doji, went short again
[07:35 am] rusty : am looking to sell some FSLR puts to start a long swing in FSLR
[07:36 am] apple : thx rusty, what price
[07:36 am] richard : Watching NDSN
[07:37 am] doji : Went long again in PAY ay 37.49
[07:37 am] doji : out 1/2 here
[07:37 am] doji : trailing second 1/2, my revenge...
[07:38 am] doji : all out PAY
[07:40 am] doji : Thanks for ACOM short Ed
[07:40 am] vilazio : SPY dropping
[07:41 am] anthonyb : MAJOR support for SYMC 15.29
[07:41 am] anthonyb : come on down FSLR
[07:43 am] doji : I took ITMN long also Ed after you post the lod, thanks man!
[07:44 am] scalpman : PAY @ 37.83
[07:44 am] scalpman : S
[07:44 am] anthonyb : got out at 37.58 PAY short
[07:44 am] apple : good job ab[07:44 am] michael : joey, aapl is really dancing around 380
[07:45 am] scalpman : Out 3/4 PAY S
[07:45 am] qwert : yep on pay mitch between pay and dmnd just paid for Christmas thanks
[07:45 am] go4it : PAY S 38.25
[07:45 am] michael : right on qwert[07:45 am] thomasohana : nice qwert[07:45 am] anthonyb : All out FSLR short at 30,23
[07:45 am] Ed : nice qwert[07:46 am] doji : Watch FSLR at 30!
[07:46 am] anthonyb : yeah doji, i got out thinking there might be some value buyers at 30
[07:47 am] doji : I don't; see too many in Level II
[07:48 am] anthonyb : I have one last position left. Gonna manage it and quit for the day
[07:48 am] scalpman : Zoll resumes quotes @ 10;55 Trade at 11 EST
[07:49 am] anthonyb : what a nice day
[07:49 am] doji : missed the rebound in SLB!
[07:50 am] apple : nice chart on BIDU
[07:51 am] doji : Beautiful although too late to see that
[07:53 am] doji : Thanks for ITMN short Mitch
[07:53 am] skydiver : FSLR climbing nicely
[07:53 am] anthonyb : anyone long FSLR?
[07:53 am] skydiver : yes :) L 30.11
[07:54 am] anthonyb : good going sky
[07:54 am] skydiver : out 1/2 and moving stop up
[07:54 am] qwert : another awesome call on itmn mitch thx
[07:56 am] doji : I don't want to see BIDU....
[07:57 am] snowcat : thanks for fslr- doji!
[07:57 am] skydiver : Yes - thanks doji for FSLR as well
[07:58 am] doji : Shorted BIDU, couldn't resist it
[07:58 am] apple : I WILL FOLLOW THE INDICATORS!!!!
[07:58 am] doji : I'll follow the indicators, I'll follow the indicators, I'll follow the indicators, I'll follow the indicators, I'll follow the indicators, I'll follow the indicators, I'll follow the indicators, I'll follow the indicators,
[07:58 am] skydiver : Thanks for the reminder Mitch -- yes -- follow indicators -
[07:59 am] doji : SPY at trendline resistance
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: I forgot about the indicators! will do
[08:00 am] doji : ITMN is as sweet as it can get
[08:00 am] doji : Out of the charts!
[08:01 am] go4it : is volume the most important indicator?
[08:01 am] apple : look at ITMN go!
[08:02 am] doji : WOW!!!!! Thanks Mitch!!!!
[08:02 am] doji : all out!
[08:02 am] doji : $1.5 per share profits!
[08:02 am] vilazio : Great call on ITMN Mitch Thx
[08:03 am] doji : I know Mitch, thanks for the reminder, need to stay humble
[08:04 am] doji : ITMN lower GS revenues estimated
[08:04 am] eyes : S ITMN 16.44 out half 16.27 out 1/4 16.10 last 1/4 14.20
[08:04 am] go4it : Thx Mitch
[08:05 am] lightning : way to go eyes!
[08:05 am] lisas : Does anyone know how to move the announcement box? I'm trying to watch the indicators on Mitch's charts to see what he's teaching us and the box keeps popping up over indicators
[08:06 am] vilazio : Lisa click the X mark on the box
[08:06 am] skydiver : all out of FSLR long
[08:08 am] scalpman : ITMN L @ 13.86
[08:08 am] doji : ITMN L 14.17
[08:08 am] mikewd2 -: 13.99
[08:09 am] mikewd2 -: zoll resumes trading
[08:10 am] doji : Ouch stopped at b/e in ITMN
[08:12 am] Ed : ur right
[08:12 am] skydiver : yes
[08:13 am] qwert : yes sir
[08:14 am] skydiver : 6.5 is great
[08:14 am] qwert : yep
[08:17 am] lightning : there was a cover call on ITMN at 8:02. what did you see?
[08:19 am] rusty : i sold the Jan 28's earlier 2.30+
[08:19 am] rusty : on FSLR
[08:19 am] apple : good for you
[08:21 am] lightning : covering last part of CREE short here
[08:21 am] doji : ITMN nice rebound
[08:25 am] dan : MKing, can you explain short bounce and fast fall with a little stochastic reaction?
[08:25 am] lisas : Mitch, can't see time on your charts, can u put arrow to the candles you are talking about?
[08:26 am] apple : your comment covers the time
[08:26 am] mikewd2 -: 8:01 is at the 3 down candles from 15.50'ish to 13.75'ish
[08:27 am] lisas : Thanks what I guess Mike, thanks. Time is below screen on my window
[08:30 am] lisas : Thanks Mitch, can see time now
[08:32 am] lightning : it was a fantastic trade, that ITMN. thanks for the call MK
[08:35 am] storage : Mitch can you post your notes in the doc. so go we can study them?
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: it's still 50% chance of hit red again!
[08:36 am] apple : storage, you can right click on the gray area below bar on the chat to copy it
[08:37 am] storage : Thank you apple.
[08:37 am] mikewd2 -: unfortunately, yes it is
[08:37 am] mikewd2 -: i understand what you're saying
[08:38 am] dan : MKing, today ,why when we stopped t first long and long always move bigger than the first?
[08:38 am] apple : no problem, same if you want our side
[08:38 am] dan : second move
[08:38 am] murano : it is probability
[08:39 am] apple : thx so much, MK, makes perfect sense and keeps us on our toes!
[08:39 am] mikewd2 -: thanks Mitch, understand the concept of what you're saying - more true for sure on stocks.
[08:39 am] lisas : Thanks Mitch, I can see I was exiting some trades too early, not getting the bigger wins
[08:40 am] lightning : ITMN newsL om: InterMune drops over 23% after German institute issues pirfenidon report :theflyo[08:41 am] lightning : 11 minutes ago on that ITMN news.
[08:41 am] doji : SPY at trendline support
[08:41 am] mikewd2 -: is ITMN consolidating now? which way is the most likely after a fall then a large rise?
[08:44 am] joeytsa : just catching up...great lesson Mitch
[08:44 am] lightning : Mike, a consolidation is usually just a pause in a move. Usually.
[08:45 am] mikewd2 -: ok, so since the last move was up does that mean up on the continuation?
[08:45 am] joeytsa : lightning, on that pause..do you use vol to give you hint to direction?
[08:45 am] mikewd2 -: always been confused on that point after a huge fall.
[08:46 am] lightning : that's usually what will happen. on volume, I want to see volume increase when it breaks out of consolidation. If no greater volume, I let it go.
[08:46 am] joeytsa : yeah
[08:46 am] apple : both BIDU and ITMN similar
[08:46 am] lightning : so I don't use volume for direction, just confirmation
[08:46 am] lightning : (note, amateur talking here)
[08:46 am] joeytsa : i use it for direction...usually on a larger timeframe
[08:47 am] rusty : volume works good at inflection points
[08:47 am] joeytsa : right rusty..what is volume doing and where is it doing it
[08:48 am] rusty : like big volume at the high...everyone is buying but they forget the bigger question... sell? to who?
[08:48 am] mikewd2 -: a lot of stocks have the same chart shape as ITMN, like BIDU ...
[08:49 am] rusty : and at lows when you see big volume everyone is shorting or selling....and that leaves only one place for the stock to go
[08:49 am] apple : up?
[08:50 am] mikewd2 -: yep, that's why i need to start being patient and only trade those plays.
[08:50 am] joeytsa : which gives you 2 groups of people wanting to buy
[08:50 am] rusty : exactly
[08:51 am] rusty : another pattern that often repeats is rule of threes especially in candles
[08:51 am] joeytsa : Mitch's 5 star tip @ 8:19 is spot on
[08:51 am] rusty : Japanese might have economic problems but they are experts at candles
[08:52 am] joeytsa : volume is a study all its own...3 types of volume to look at
[08:52 am] doji : SPY
[08:54 am] apple : this is a great reminder, thx
[08:54 am] joeytsa : 3 types ; avg daily vol, today's volume, volume right now
[08:55 am] joeytsa : each one leads to a certain look or trade...
[08:55 am] joeytsa : Mitch's Vpattern/capitulation is a volume right now trade
[08:56 am] joeytsa : that's why you can't mix up the type of trade you are making
[08:56 am] joeytsa : scalp or swing or long-term hold
[08:56 am] apple : makes sense
[08:56 am] rusty : good point
[08:56 am] jsn13 : Thanks Mitch......U really offer us fantastic and thorough views.....managed to catch the 2 bottoms in ITMN and about 5% and 7%....missed the huge short....but anyway was a great day compared to yesterday....
[08:57 am] mikewd2 -: nice jsn13
[08:57 am] Ed : nice jsn13
[08:57 am] jsn13 : Got to double my profits compared to yesterday.....
[08:58 am] doji : You rock JNS13
[08:58 am] doji : Watch the SPY, could lose 122 today
[08:58 am] rusty : Baird - cutting the shares to Neutral and slashing its price target to $35 from $80 following the company's reduced 2011 guidance and 2012 outlook yesterday. In what amounts to a big, fat mea culpa, the firm says: "We've been wrong on our recommendation and misjudged the negative impact its attempt to reinvent itself from a technology to an energy company would have."
[08:59 am] jsn13 : Thanks for the mental works.....but i only went to 50% of the trades that I should trade....still got lots of room for improvement....
[08:59 am] joeytsa : nice going jsn !!!!
[08:59 am] apple : jsn - one day at a time...
[09:01 am] Mitch K: hey rusty, i wrote that in the DSR last night that "my original forecast of a meandering uptrend is looking incorrect at the moment"
[09:01 am] Mitch K: but mine is more timely, as market changes
[09:01 am] joeytsa : i read that Mitch...you still might end up right
[09:02 am] Mitch K: hey, at least I don't wait 6 months and look back, lol[09:02 am] joeytsa : ES needs a move over 1225
[09:02 am] joeytsa : nope you call out everything..right or wrong
[09:02 am] rusty : like George Carlin said: The forecast for tonight is darkness followed by daylight tomorrow
[09:02 am] Mitch K: or rather i don't ask investment banking which clients i might offend before making a call
[09:03 am] doji : SPY is moving very strong now, all green candles
[09:04 am] joeytsa : except on very fast movers?
[09:05 am] rusty : tx doj...good call on that FSLR
[09:06 am] storage : Thanks Mitch I am going to follow the INDICATORS.
[09:06 am] eyes : 2 wins 1 loss thanks ED
[09:07 am] rusty : am long WYNN
[09:07 am] joeytsa : just pulled up the WYNN chart actually...downtrend then uptrend
[09:07 am] lightning : no...i had my hands full that that time. I saw it, but already had 4 trades on. That's my limit for now.
[09:08 am] mikewd2 -: no, went long on one bounce too early and got stopped
[09:08 am] mikewd2 -: on LVS
[09:08 am] mikewd2 -: should have kept watching
[09:09 am] lightning : I'm with you on that Mike. I can't tell you how many times I get stopped out, and then stop watching...only to have it move big in my direction.
[09:10 am] mikewd2 -: yeah Mitch says for us to keep watching stocks of interest but there are sometimes too many.
[09:10 am] apple : FDX hod[09:11 am] weston : how tight is your stop loss, light?
[09:11 am] weston : coz i am having problem in stop loss...
[09:12 am] bopphaley : Help. I had to refresh my page as it was frozen. I was reading through the earlier lesson during ITMN and now it is gone. Time starts at 8:35 which is past the part I was reading around the 8:06 marker. Can I get it back?
[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: last couple days, stocks have been hitting a lower low then move up.
[09:12 am] lightning : depends on the stock and the time of day. I usually place it above resistance or below support by 3-5 cents.
[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: during the intraday
[09:13 am] weston : okay, thx light
[09:13 am] lightning : Weston, but if the stop amount would be a bigger $ amount than I am comfortable with for my regular sized position, I use fewer shares to limit my potential loss
[09:13 am] rusty : BIDU SINA SOHU radar for swings based on daily charts
[09:14 am] apple : very smart, light
[09:14 am] apple : short rusty?
[09:14 am] rusty : BIDU volume a little above average for this time of day
[09:16 am] vilazio : WYNN stopped out
[09:16 am] rusty : actually for a long swingtrade into weakness
[09:16 am] rusty : there moves are getting a bit extended to the downside
[09:17 am] mikewd2 -: rusty like on BIDU or SINA, where would you put your stop lost
[09:17 am] joeytsa : rusty: long swing on BIDU with res as a profit target to then short into?
[09:17 am] mikewd2 -: on a swing
[09:17 am] rusty : yes....
[09:18 am] joeytsa : mike : i would use 110 as a swing stop
[09:18 am] rusty : i am not that good at going long then reversing on same stock but that would be ideal
[09:18 am] joeytsa : with 120 as profit target..gives me a 4:1
[09:18 am] eyes : MRK any thoughts
[09:18 am] apple : sounds like a great plan
[09:18 am] eyes : never mind not a big move
[09:18 am] rusty : and stocks like SOHU are interesting fundamentally as well
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: thanks Joey
[09:19 am] rusty : lotta cash little debt as long as it's not a fraud
[09:19 am] rusty : I think SOHU has 20+ in cash/share
[09:20 am] rusty : so that gives somewhat of a cushion to work with
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: so joey, you would do the swing - with today's resistance and support as the target/stop
[09:20 am] joeytsa : i would maybe if i thought i would hold a stock 6 months..but don't need it short-term
[09:20 am] doji : SOHU looks more interesting for me
[09:20 am] rusty : also when I do these long swings into oversold... I leg into the long
[09:21 am] rusty : i don't go in 100% on first bite
[09:21 am] joeytsa : mike : IF i did a swing right here, my stop is 110, target is 120
[09:21 am] mikewd2 -: understand thanks
[09:21 am] joeytsa : smart rusty///SPY getting buying
[09:21 am] eyes : MRK breakout on daily
[09:21 am] joeytsa : that's a 4:1 rr on BIDU, i will take those odds every time
[09:23 am] joeytsa : at 4:1, you can hit less than 50% and still make good money
[09:23 am] rusty : yup and when the $ comes it comes pretty fast
[09:23 am] rusty : downside is you have the risk of overnight holds, warnings etc[09:23 am] rusty : like on FSLR
[09:23 am] qwert : eyes how's it goin[09:23 am] joeytsa : i made a HUGE mistake not shorting PCLN mid-nov...
[09:24 am] joeytsa : i even had a 10:1 rrnd totally blew it
[09:24 am] mikewd2 -: ITMN on the move
[09:24 am] doji : DMND has been slowly trending down
[09:24 am] joeytsa : but like rusty..you leg into them
[09:25 am] qwert : you killed it on the itmn trade yeah?
[09:25 am] rusty : Technicians hate fundamentals
[09:25 am] rusty : however beside every shipwreck one finds a chart
[09:25 am] joeytsa : very true rusty
[09:26 am] joeytsa : but fundamentals don't move a stock
[09:26 am] joeytsa : institution buying does, and i can see that on a chart :)
[09:28 am] eyes : ya 50 shares for over two points
[09:28 am] joeytsa : seems like there is a lot of negative news in the works, but they are leaking it very slowly to not destroy the markets
[09:28 am] qwert : that's awesome
[09:28 am] joeytsa : s&p lowers caixabank and banco popular...not sure how breaking that it though
[09:28 am] rusty : SOHU $21 in cash, no debt, earning 4.60/share
[09:29 am] rusty : so when something like SOHU gets oversold it gets my attention
[09:29 am] mikewd2 -: yeah and all it takes is one muddy water report and it's all gone
[09:29 am] rusty : only problem of course is CHina[09:29 am] joeytsa : be interesting to see what their fundys were on 5/1 @ $105
[09:30 am] rusty : true re muddy waters especially nowadays...everyone runs first and then ask questions later
[09:30 am] joeytsa : yeah
[09:30 am] rusty : a lot of swings have become more difficult just for that reason
[09:31 am] joeytsa : that and when doing fa, you have to trust that the company i telling the truth
[09:31 am] joeytsa : don't want to get caught in an "oops" moment
[09:31 am] rusty : right joey but have to take that into account when following a momentum chart as well
[09:31 am] joeytsa : yeah, that why always have stops
[09:31 am] rusty : as the crowd is just jumping on because the price is up
[09:32 am] rusty : insert NFLX chart here
[09:32 am] joeytsa : honestly, the only thing i look at if i plan to hold a stock is future planned announcements
[09:33 am] apple : smart joey
[09:33 am] joeytsa : earnings, splits, etc...i try to avoid those
[09:33 am] rusty : everyone liked NFLX at 250
[09:33 am] rusty : yeah, i try to avoid earnings when swinging if I can
[09:33 am] rusty : sometimes get stuck though
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: speaking of NFLX, they want me back - sent me free trial for a month.
[09:33 am] joeytsa : NFLX, indis starting turning mid-july?
[09:34 am] rusty : yup
[09:34 am] joeytsa : shows you how slow the herd is..big down vol after the stock dropped $150 haha[09:35 am] rusty : and remember NFLX shorts capitulated at the high
[09:35 am] rusty : then it fell rapidly
[09:35 am] mikewd2 -: speaking of NFLX, where has shark been?
[09:35 am] rusty : speaking of NFLX how come they are the only pop up that get through our pop up blocker
[09:35 am] mikewd2 -: good point
[09:36 am] joeytsa : can't make a dime on that NFLX chart, but can make money when i see the same pattern repeat
[09:36 am] eyes : Ed did you S lulu
*** Brent has added a new file into the Documents folder. Mitch's Trading Lesson 12-15-11.pdf
[09:37 am] rusty : I've played NFLX a couple of times into weakness and made good $ on quick countertrend rally but of course in retrospect I was walking on a high wire
[09:38 am] Brent : I uploaded Mitch's lesson to the documents folder in case anyone didn't see
[09:38 am] rusty : MAYO EXPECTS WORST REVENUE GROWTH FOR U.S. BANKS SINCE 1938
[09:39 am] joeytsa : zynga ipo tomorrow
[09:39 am] doji : What is the ticker for that Joey?
[09:39 am] joeytsa : not sure..guessing znga[09:40 am] joeytsa : just a guess..let me see if i can find it
[09:40 am] joeytsa : yep ZNGA looks to be right
[09:41 am] jsn13 : Ed, did u trade the ITMN short at 10.50am? What do u think about the volume?
[09:41 am] rusty : http://biz.yahoo.com/ipo/
[09:42 am] mikewd2 -: i worry about a ITMN short higher highs, higher lows on each bounce.
[09:42 am] rusty : http://ipoportal.edgar-online.com/ipo/home.as p
[09:49 am] apple : ITMN turning up
[09:51 am] doji : Lulu watching
[09:55 am] vilazio : doji, watching LULU but not moving
[09:55 am] doji : It's consolidating vilazio[09:56 am] qwert : apple are you long itmn[09:56 am] apple : no, are you
[09:56 am] joeytsa : NVLS dropping a bit
[09:56 am] Ed : missed that short jsn13
[09:56 am] qwert : yeah took a very small position at 14.32
[09:57 am] Ed : in ITMN @ 1050est
[09:57 am] joeytsa : nothing spectacular, but a slow downtrend since the 42&50 top
[09:57 am] joeytsa : 42.50
[09:58 am] joeytsa : 9:57 comments are for NVLS
[09:58 am] jsn13 : Ok i see thanks....what do u think about the volume? I missed that either.....but i got the long b4 and actually closed at the top....
[09:58 am] observer : l ITMN sold 1/2 14.79, 2nd 1/2 14.98
[09:58 am] vilazio : Doji, LULU to go up after consolidation?
[09:58 am] observer : (l at 14.62
[10:00 am] joeytsa : good job observer !!!
[10:00 am] Ed : nice observer
[10:00 am] rusty : Analyst defending BIDU
[10:00 am] rusty : out few minutes ago
[10:02 am] qwert : gonna go have some lunch see ya in a bit
[10:04 am] jsn13 : ITMN looking like a short soon?
[10:26 am] joeytsa : still burned i missed the 1st short, got the signal..wasn't paying attention
[10:26 am] joeytsa : gunslinged the 2nd on the expectation of hitting res then down
[10:26 am] jsn13 : Mitch's mental work yesterday was really helpful.....Thanks Mitch......
[10:27 am] doji : Keep exercising the mind every day JNS!#
[10:27 am] doji : ATHN still dropping
[10:28 am] joeytsa : CVX drop
[10:28 am] apple : nice ATHN, thx
[10:28 am] doji : S3=53.96
[10:28 am] jsn13 : Sure.....thanks.....still have lots of room for improvement....got lucky today.....grateful for all the wild movements today....
[10:28 am] mikewd2 -: REDF
[10:29 am] joeytsa : got out a bit early but still gave myself a 3:1 on ATHN
[10:30 am] rusty : Piper positive on AMZN
[10:30 am] lightning : oil spiked up on CVX news
[10:30 am] mikewd2 -: might hurt RIG also, Ed
[10:30 am] Ed : true
[10:32 am] lightning : DMND downgraded by Jeffries...well timed.
[10:32 am] lightning : If it gets back to $80, they'll upgrade it.
[10:35 am] doji : Yeah, the Brazilian are very serious on hitting foreing Co.
[10:36 am] Ed : eyes it has a lot to do with recognizing patterns, from studying chart after chart
[10:37 am] mhaus : ATHN falling fast
[10:37 am] joeytsa : i hope you are all in on that time-lag short on ATHN
[10:37 am] Ed : yep
[10:37 am] doji : No me.... aggghh[10:38 am] weston : not me as well, thought it was supposed to be long?
[10:38 am] doji : Nex support at 50
[10:39 am] joeytsa : + 2.70 !!!
[10:39 am] qwert : nice joey
[10:39 am] doji : LIVE very small floating
[10:39 am] doji : float
[10:39 am] qwert : 200 sma at 51.30ish
[10:39 am] joeytsa : left some on the table..i can live with that
[10:39 am] Ed : was an advanced trade weston[10:39 am] qwert : athn[10:40 am] weston : thx Ed, but how to advanced trade?
[10:42 am] joeytsa : ok, great day, break time
[10:42 am] apple : have fun joey
[10:43 am] joeytsa : thanks apple...left about $3 on the table, hope you grabbed it :)
[10:44 am] thomasohana : L ATHN?
[10:44 am] doji : Any news? SPY moving up
[10:45 am] mikewd2 -: ATHN)athenahealth sees FY12 EPS 85c-97c vs. consensus $1.16
[10:45 am] Mitch K: hey thomas, don't wait for confirmation from anyone whether you should go long, best to learn to read charts and decide
[10:45 am] Mitch K: thanks mike
[10:45 am] richard : Watching GS
[10:45 am] thomasohana : Understood Mitch
[10:48 am] apple : there goes ATHN
[10:51 am] doji : ATHN 48 and then 45?
[10:52 am] mikewd2 -: ATHN seems overdone to me
[10:53 am] apple : ya think?
[10:53 am] doji : if we average estimate EPS = 0.9 vs/ 1.16 expected, taht is a drop of 27%
[10:53 am] doji : Apply that to the price of 58 and you get 45
[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: good point
[10:54 am] doji : Just as reference
[10:54 am] doji : only
[10:55 am] doji : 23% drop sorry
[11:00 am] lightning : i can't pull the trigger to buy ATHN. I think I'll just watch
[11:01 am] qwert : anybody else having problems with esignal charts locking up for a few seconds at a time today?
[11:01 am] doji : DMND
[11:01 am] lightning : I haven't had that problem with e-signal qwert.
[11:02 am] qwert : it's happened to me several times today just was wondering
[11:02 am] lightning : someone else earlier mentioned it as well, so I don't think it's just you.
[11:03 am] doji : I have my order right above 45 and my stop right below that, so I'll wait
[11:03 am] qwert : thx for the info lightning
[11:04 am] apple : yes, qwert they weren't working this morning, MK included
[11:05 am] lisas : What the heck with athn, looks like an "f" word muddy waters special.
[11:05 am] bopphaley : This is inspiring. http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/index.php/kwidget/w id/0_04vzdsr5/uiconf_id/5590821
[11:06 am] qwert : not a lot of support at 45 on level 2
[11:06 am] lightning : lisas, ATHN: .com: athenahealth down 18% after guiding to 2012 adjusted EPS below consensus :th[11:06 am] lightning : ATHN: athenahealth sees FY12 EPS 85c-97c vs. consensus $1.16
[11:07 am] lisas : my news pc freezing up, thanks. guidance during day unusual isn't it?
[11:07 am] victor51 : Ouch ATHN. All out. What's lesson
[11:07 am] lightning : yes, it's unusual, but ATHN is hosting an analysts day today.
[11:08 am] weston : yup got stopped three times
[11:12 am] mikewd2 -: wow, ATHN is one sick puppy.
[11:16 am] weston : light, when usually u will get in to a particular stock...was trying to look at the indicators but got stopped out
[11:17 am] victor51 : We are getting lots of sick puppies. ATHN, GMCR, FMCN, NFLX...... Looks like a flue virus
[11:18 am] lightning : weston, it depends (of course). For a stock like ATHN, it is likely too fast for me. However, I'll watch it on a 2minute and wait for it to turn up...even then I will probably pass on it.
[11:18 am] apple : crazy, crazy
[11:19 am] doji : Remember what Mitch said for volatile stocks on price and indicators?
[11:19 am] weston : ATHN is exceptional today i guess...but for other stocks what kind of indicators u will look in other than Stochastic?
[11:19 am] eyes : WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE what a ride
[11:21 am] doji : ATHN L 43.13
[11:21 am] qwert : eyes were you short athn[11:21 am] apple : L ATHN 43.10
[11:22 am] mikewd2 -: hoping for a bounce back to near 48
[11:22 am] eyes : no just watching
[11:22 am] mikewd2 -: or a nice pretty V would be nice
[11:23 am] doji : Thanks Mitch
[11:23 am] thomasohana : yes a nice V would be nice mike =)
[11:23 am] eyes : how about you qwert[11:23 am] doji : Sorry 42.13 is my entry
[11:25 am] qwert : long twice but not the short and missed this last entry
[11:25 am] mikewd2 -: out half 42.35 to 44.35
[11:25 am] eyes : ya like trying to catch a fallen knife
[11:26 am] Mitch K: eyes, practice in virtual, no real money.
[11:26 am] eyes : OK I am
[11:26 am] Mitch K: your problem is in the emotional reaction, as we have discussed. Emotions don't allow discipline to rule
[11:26 am] Mitch K: that is heart of your problem
[11:27 am] apple : thx MK, i'm with you
[11:27 am] mikewd2 -: Athenahealth Sees FY12 Adj Gross Margin 61.5%-62.5%
[11:28 am] mikewd2 -: that doesn't sound bad!
[11:28 am] doji : closing 1/2 ATHN here to secure profits
[11:28 am] mikewd2 -: athenahealth sees gross margin down 2% in 2012
[11:29 am] mikewd2 -: ITMN continues its recovery also
[11:30 am] thomasohana : yes pls[11:31 am] joeytsa : what a trade in ATHN
[11:33 am] mikewd2 -: athenahealth weakness a buying opportunity, says Morgan Keegan
[11:33 am] mikewd2 -: haven't they said that on every stock????
[11:34 am] joeytsa : I'm sure someone made a year's pay on that drop
[11:34 am] lightning : yes
[11:34 am] Ed : oh what fun
[11:34 am] qwert : go mitch[11:34 am] lisas : it's helpful Mitch
[11:34 am] joeytsa : of course mitch[11:34 am] mikewd2 -: please Mitch, never static from you
[11:34 am] eyes : i am all ears
[11:34 am] klas : play by play
[11:34 am] bopphaley : Play by play is what I came for. Seriously.
[11:38 am] joeytsa : yeah mitch a 1000 share print went off
[11:38 am] mikewd2 -: would you add to a long at this point Mitch?
[11:38 am] joeytsa : some big prints hitting
[11:39 am] doji : out 1/4
[11:41 am] apple : thx MK
[11:43 am] doji : Yeap[11:43 am] lisas : y
[11:43 am] thomasohana : yes mitch thx
[11:43 am] apple : yes, sir
[11:43 am] kp : Yes
[11:43 am] klas : yes
[11:44 am] michael : yep
[11:44 am] go4it : yes sir 47.40 = BE
[11:45 am] joeytsa : better lesson than any book can give...live in action
[11:45 am] go4it : adrenalin burns it in
[11:47 am] joeytsa : mitch: 50% retracement??
[11:47 am] apple : don't worry, MK, we won't hold you to it -- but I am with you - that would be superb!
[11:47 am] go4it : second that
[11:48 am] mikewd2 -: still holding half form 42.35 - hard not to look at profit.
[11:49 am] go4it : nice Mike
[11:50 am] eyes : me
[11:50 am] joeytsa : not ticked
[11:50 am] pandozzi : mitch u the man I'm in
[11:50 am] lisas : ticked I didn't buy more, lol. I"m ok though
[11:50 am] joeytsa : but didn't buy
[11:50 am] apple : great job mike
[11:50 am] pandozzi : 300 shares here
[11:50 am] derns : Mitch...I didn't go long at 43 and I m "ticked off" that I didn't!
[11:50 am] pandozzi : 3000
[11:50 am] doji : I bought 1000 only
[11:50 am] apple : got stopped out but went back in
[11:50 am] mikewd2 -: i bought 1k also
[11:50 am] thomasohana : wish I wasn't virtual trading =(
[11:51 am] mikewd2 -: good experience thomasohana[11:51 am] go4it : sitting on 700
[11:51 am] derns : SPY is dropping
[11:51 am] Ed : ur in best place to learn thomas, it will come easy to u when u go live
[11:51 am] mikewd2 -: i love these "V's"
[11:51 am] storage : I did not buy but very happy to see , what can happen on any given day
[11:52 am] monster : lrcx[11:55 am] mikewd2 -: run baby run
[11:55 am] pandozzi : owe ya[11:55 am] observer : oh yeah!
[11:55 am] lisas : y
[11:55 am] apple : yu betcha!
[11:55 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[11:55 am] kp : YES
[11:55 am] thomasohana : yes
[11:55 am] mikewd2 -: wouldn't have been if you weren't walking us thru this Mitch
[11:56 am] mikewd2 -: I would have sold at 45 on that deep
[11:56 am] michael : me too mike
[11:58 am] vilazio : Mitch no sell signal yet ATHN?
[11:58 am] eyes : Mitch it is the entry that gets me i didn't enter because it had 2.50 move and i think i missed it
[11:58 am] doji : LRCX continues dropping
[11:59 am] bopphaley : Can I buy in or is it too late?
[11:59 am] Brent : too late bopphaley[11:59 am] Mitch K: eyes, stochastics had hardly turned up yet.
[11:59 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[12:00 pm] apple : will you hold it, MK?
[12:01 pm] garyb : Hi everyone....well I have been tuning in and out....and Mitch to answer your question...it is ME who is the one to be sorry I did not buy ATHN!!! :(
[12:01 pm] apple : yes, 1 and 3 or 2 min
[12:02 pm] thomasohana : yes mitch[12:02 pm] observer : yes
[12:02 pm] qwert : yep
[12:02 pm] apple : i switch between the 2 and 3
[12:03 pm] doji : all out last 1/4
[12:05 pm] pandozzi : got stopped out 46.30 thx mitch[12:05 pm] qwert : wow awesome calls today by tsa, my best day ever and I've been here since the beginning, and all thanks to teaching by mitch,kris,brent,ed and adriano when he was here. God bless you all.
[12:05 pm] Ed : great job qwert[12:05 pm] apple : back at you qwert[12:06 pm] joeytsa : great going qwert and pandozzi[12:06 pm] Brent : good job qwert[12:06 pm] qwert : oh i know mitch[12:06 pm] lisas : exciting qwert!
[12:06 pm] Ed : nice trading pandozzi[12:06 pm] vilazio : Mitch do mean wait until 44.50 or 45.50?
[12:07 pm] mikewd2 -: went long on LRCX 35.82
[12:08 pm] lisas : at this point Mitch, are you just looking at price action, or are you also looking at stoch?
[12:08 pm] joeytsa : amazing move
[12:08 pm] lisas : Extremely helpful Mitch!
[12:08 pm] observer : great fun, Mitch
[12:08 pm] apple : loved, loved, loved it!!!! we want more!!!
[12:08 pm] doji : What a lesson!
[12:09 pm] thomasohana : thanks for the play by play mitch!
[12:09 pm] kp : It was fun...but dropped too fast with red candle
[12:09 pm] eyes : Mitch so what would have been your entry
[12:09 pm] michael : fun and profitable
[12:09 pm] go4it : That was great Mitch , thank you!
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : ninjatrader users: anyone check out the new version yet or what changed?
[12:10 pm] pandozzi : grabbed another 50 cents on the rebound
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : nice one pandozzi !!!
[12:11 pm] observer : shorts taking profits?
[12:12 pm] pow : Mitch, I still got into athn too early, please give lesson on this one.
[12:12 pm] eyes : OK I went Long LRCX 35.77 Second green Candle on one minute is that to early
[12:12 pm] thomasohana : that makes sense mitch, thanks
[12:13 pm] joeytsa : just don't give up too much profit eyes
[12:14 pm] vilazio : Mitch I waited ATHN to come down to 44.50 but it turned around at 45.50. I missed it
[12:14 pm] mikewd2 -: had to take that last little bounce Mitch - now it's over
[12:14 pm] klas : thanks mitch for the lesson
[12:15 pm] qwert : thx again mitch[12:15 pm] eyes : out 36.00 LRCK
[12:16 pm] victor51 : how do I copy Mitch's lesson. Need help.
[12:16 pm] bopphaley : Thanks Mitch. I hope you are able to talk your thoughts instead of having to type all of that.
[12:17 pm] qwert : nice trade eyes
[12:17 pm] thomasohana : thanks Ed for alerting us
[12:17 pm] qwert : thx ed[12:18 pm] Ed : no problem
[12:18 pm] doji : Yes, thanks ED
[12:19 pm] thomasohana : have a nice break mitch, thanks again
[12:19 pm] mikewd2 -: LBTYA bouncing on share repurchase of 1B
[12:20 pm] bopphaley : Trick I learned this morning. Paste the dialogue into Excel and then sort it by time (column A) and then paste it onto a word doc. That way you can read from top to bottom instead of bottom to top.
[12:21 pm] qwert : gonna take my honey out to lunch, everyone have an awesome night see ya in the am
[12:21 pm] Mitch K: bopphaley, there is a feature in word you can reverse the order too
[12:21 pm] joeytsa : have a good one qwert[12:22 pm] go4it : whew what a relief stop at 47.40
[12:23 pm] go4it : was down 3k at one time
[12:23 pm] thomasohana : bop, it's the same looking sort button in Word as it is in Excel. Hope that helps.
[12:23 pm] mikewd2 -: you didn't have a stop go4it? when you bought
[12:23 pm] Ed : way to stay focused go4it
[12:23 pm] pandozzi : started late
[12:24 pm] go4it : fraid not
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: i did that yesterday on TNA and cost me a bunch
[12:24 pm] Ed : just trade in the now and not focus on p&L[12:25 pm] jsn13 : went long LRCX at 35.7 and all out at 36.38....
[12:25 pm] Ed : nice going jsn13
[12:25 pm] jsn13 : thanks brent...
[12:25 pm] jsn13 : thanks ed....
[12:25 pm] eyes : I got out at 36 It looked to be turning on 1 min stock
[12:26 pm] Brent : you usually break your orders up in pieces, don't you eyes?
[12:26 pm] eyes : yes but i only had 100 shares
[12:27 pm] Brent : so, you have IB right?
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: i had 300, and sold out at 36 also eyes
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: just gravy on top of the ATHN trade
[12:27 pm] doji : Missed ITMN short
[12:27 pm] Brent : you can sell 1 share at a time on IB
[12:28 pm] eyes : yes but i didn't get in on a atm[12:30 pm] mikewd2 -: ATHN might just hit 48
[12:31 pm] eyes : I am just working on learning my entry show was my entry brent was i to early or late 15:01:49
[12:32 pm] mikewd2 -: there went 48
[12:33 pm] mikewd2 -: still down 9 pts from open
[12:34 pm] mikewd2 -: actually 10
[12:36 pm] doji : ITMN to lose 30 again
[12:36 pm] mikewd2 -: 13
[12:36 pm] doji : too late in the day for me however
[12:36 pm] kp : What usually happens with triple witching Friday?
[12:37 pm] doji : Tomorrow will be a very volatile day for sure!
[12:42 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah it won't' break 13
[12:43 pm] apple : yes
[12:44 pm] mikewd2 -: took 12.97 out ITMN
[12:44 pm] mikewd2 -: 1%
[12:45 pm] observer : great, mikewd2
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : nice job mike
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: great day, needed it after yesterday's terrible day
[12:46 pm] Ed : way to bounce back mike
[12:47 pm] mikewd2 -: need about 9 more days like today for bounce back.
[12:47 pm] apple : stay out of TNA!
[12:47 pm] mikewd2 -: yesterday was very bad and very dumb on my part
[12:47 pm] joeytsa : have to stay positive or you already lost
[12:47 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah, but TNA has been good to me also
[12:47 pm] apple : we all have dumb days now and then, just learn from it...
[12:47 pm] apple : in the past, but don't rely on it every day
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: Mitch's lessons sure help me to know what i should be doing and looking for - remember watch the indicators!!!
[12:49 pm] joeytsa : anyone here in the room in the tsa promo video?
[12:49 pm] lisas : Ed's in one
[12:49 pm] joeytsa : would like to put a face to the names
[12:49 pm] doji : What is that video Joey?
[12:49 pm] joeytsa : it's on the tsa site
[12:53 pm] apple : look at that ANTN go, you were right MK
[12:54 pm] mikewd2 -: trying to push thru 49
[12:54 pm] apple : i am going to hold it
[12:55 pm] apple : just went thru mike, thx for the help
[12:55 pm] vilazio : My trailing stop was hit in ATHN. out early with small profit
[12:55 pm] mikewd2 -: apple, you swinging ATHN?
[12:55 pm] apple : yep
[12:57 pm] lisas : Thanks for lessons Mitch! Great calls Ed, Kris, Brent. Take care all
[12:57 pm] mikewd2 -: see you guys tomrw, thanks for the great trades.
[12:57 pm] vilazio : Please tell me how to handle trades like ATHN. Stops were hit in pull backs
[12:58 pm] mikewd2 -: vialzio - i was stopped twice before getting the true bottom
[12:58 pm] apple : thx MK, K, B, E and everyone. What an exhilarating day! Everyone have a fabulous evening.
[12:58 pm] mikewd2 -: not sure how to not go into them, they looked good to me
[12:59 pm] jsn13 : Thanks guys......today is really a great day for us right.... :-)
[12:59 pm] vilazio : Mike, our stops too tight? I set 1 % as recommended
[01:00 pm] victor51 : Thanks Mitch. I will be studying the printed copy of chat box and l
[01:00 pm] desaist : mitch, i am not able to match stochastics with your setting on fidelity charts.. i am using 10,8, 7 but does not match with yours
[01:01 pm] joeytsa : ATHn ended over 49
[01:01 pm] desaist : periods=10, %K slowing=7, %D slowing=87 is mine
[01:02 pm] observer : gn Ed Brent, Mitch, apple, pandozzi[01:02 pm] desaist : sorry %D=7, %K=8 are mine
[01:03 pm] observer : Special thx to Mitch for the play by play
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