Chat Highlights From 12/07/2012

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[06:12 am] Mitch K: but i dont see another $42 move like yesterday
[06:12 am] Mitch K: i was hoping AAPL was going to sell down and give us another long helping at a better price but it is uppremarket.   worth watching, i think there is a 10-12 point long scalp somewhere early
[06:14 am] Mitch K: getting good moves from NG, SI, GC this morning
[06:23 am] Mitch K: 6E, Euro currency futures also moving nicely
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching SRPT for bottom
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching CXW for top
[06:31 am] Mitch K: monitoring BC
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching LULU for buy on dip
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching PANW for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching ESL for top
[06:33 am] Ed : SBUX is advanced trade must have strong vol
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching SHLD for top
[06:33 am] Ed : monitor SBUX for potential breakout with strong vol would usee 54.40
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching LAYN for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching AVGO for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: good eye on CMTL, i missed bottom but watching for top to short, take time
[06:35 am] Mitch K: monitoring AMP
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching ESL closer for bottom to cover and possible long entry
[06:36 am] Ed : NFLX monitor for potential breakout with strong vol
[06:37 am] Mitch K: QQQ turning over, same as spy but represents Nasdaq
[06:37 am] Mitch K: MHP toppy
[06:39 am] Ed : placing stop on last 1/4 of NFLX at breakeven
[06:39 am] Ed : reducing 3/4 of NFLX long
[06:40 am] Ed : SPY pulling back more
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching HUM for top to short
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching IDCC for bottom
[06:41 am] Mitch K: best price
[06:41 am] Mitch K: sell SRPT
[06:41 am] Ed : nice one qwert on SWHC
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching FMCN for bottom, going to good one
[06:42 am] Ed : SI (silver futures) new high getting pullback in GC (gold futures)
[06:42 am] Ed : getting pullback in AAPL also
[06:44 am] Mitch K: consider covering BC short
[06:45 am] Mitch K: more downside on GEO
[06:47 am] Ed : trend down right now for SPY
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching COO for top to short
[06:49 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[06:54 am] Mitch K: watching GPOR for bottom, sort of dead so far
[06:56 am] Mitch K: watching AAPL for bottom, this is what i was looking for, the lower it goes the better the bounce
[06:56 am] Mitch K: for top
[06:56 am] Mitch K: watching CONN
[06:58 am] Mitch K: my full attention on AAPL for bottom to buy
[07:00 am] Mitch K: MPC bottoming
[07:00 am] Mitch K: also watching UNH for bottom to buy, United Health
[07:00 am] Mitch K: AAPL bottom should be right around here
[07:01 am] Mitch K: buy signal on 1 min with AAPL
[07:01 am] Mitch K: more upside on GPOR long, too late to buy though
[07:02 am] Mitch K: SPY and QQQ bouncing here, going to help AAPL
[07:02 am] Mitch K: should see over $550 on this AAPL bounce
[07:02 am] Mitch K: pull up QQQ and SPY charts next to AAPL
[07:03 am] Mitch K: lisa, lets talk about that, after AAPL trade is over ok?  i have some settings and explanation
[07:04 am] Mitch K: GPOR still strong, starting to watch for short as well as long entry
[07:05 am] Mitch K: watching 1 min
[07:05 am] Mitch K: now what you want is right there on this candle with AAPL a higher high
[07:06 am] Mitch K: im talking AAPL
[07:06 am] Mitch K: there it is 547.72, higher high, tells me good trading behavior
[07:06 am] Mitch K: on this candle 1 min
[07:06 am] Mitch K: ok, again, watch for higher candle higher high
[07:06 am] Mitch K: that was a slow start out of the bottom of AAPL, SPY, QQQ.  good for the slow moving traders
[07:07 am] Mitch K: SPY looks strong
[07:07 am] Mitch K: thats what we wanted mike, that is why i commented to bring up QQQ and SPY next to AAPL chart
[07:07 am] Mitch K: im guessing 550-551 area
[07:08 am] Mitch K: early sell signal with AAPL
[07:08 am] Mitch K: little toppy in SPY, im talking micro trading action with these comments but could resurge easily with AAPL
[07:08 am] Mitch K: meaning sell 1/3rd of position
[07:08 am] Mitch K: so i take off 1/3rd of long on AAPL on that
[07:09 am] Mitch K: im closed
[07:09 am] Mitch K: sell signal 1 min AAPL
[07:10 am] Mitch K: i know why you guys arent getting signals.  slower computer and slower bandwidth on internet speed
[07:10 am] Mitch K: not a lesson for beginning trader though, good for learning how to be nimble, move quickly
[07:11 am] Mitch K: also there is a setting in this that may affect
[07:11 am] Mitch K: i am using exactly what you have, precisely
[07:12 am] Mitch K: my computer box cost 9800, just the box
[07:12 am] Mitch K: 3 dsls and 1 cable modem
[07:12 am] Mitch K: i have 4 internet services feeding into a router that balances, optimizes internet
[07:13 am] Mitch K: for aapl
[07:13 am] Mitch K: 2nd sell signal on 1 min
[07:13 am] Mitch K: the router that takes up to 5 internet inputs adds up more speed than just 1.
[07:14 am] Mitch K: upgrade your internet speed to max, go ahead and spend $130 a month on internet, i spend about 550 a month but it pays off big
[07:15 am] Mitch K: that is slow taco
[07:15 am] Mitch K: looking for long position in aapl, another long entry, just watching if we break below 543.50 area, if it bounces off that, i'd be interested in trying long again but with smaller long position
[07:16 am] Mitch K: internet
[07:16 am] Mitch K: lisa, can you  upgrade
[07:16 am] Mitch K: your internet is slow taco
[07:16 am] Mitch K: ed, what kind of 1 min signals are you or have you been getting on AAPL?  answer later when you are free
[07:16 am] Mitch K: watching UNH for short soon
[07:16 am] Mitch K: let me check later jsn
[07:18 am] Mitch K: i think we get another bounce here APL
[07:19 am] Mitch K: im not thinking 550 anymore, just a quick $2-4
[07:19 am] Mitch K: about 15 seconds ago
[07:19 am] Mitch K: got signal 1 min long
[07:20 am] Mitch K: i leave below 543, mkt struggling though
[07:21 am] Mitch K: trading action in AAPL is weak
[07:22 am] Mitch K: yes, no go on apple 2nd helping long
[07:22 am] Mitch K: looks like a no go
[07:23 am] Mitch K: ok then what i do i sjust wait on aapl, still monitor it for another drop and scan for others
[07:24 am] Mitch K: when you microtrade like that, you really need to be on yoru game, decisive, fully paying attention, be serious and hyper focus on those few critical moments, hope that makes sense
[07:24 am] Mitch K: i look at what market is doing now, sort of a mental break.  look at futures, OIl is down, gold an dsilver are choppy, NG is choppy,, then i get up and walk around for about a min
[07:25 am] Mitch K: but i dont trade like that often, just on some interesting ideas
[07:26 am] Mitch K: if you trade that way all the time, or if I did, i've be exhausted by Tuesday's close and be worthless for wed thurs fri
[07:26 am] Mitch K: i still think we can get another $3-5 point move if AAPL drops to 538 or something like that.  I cannot trade like this everyday, 5 days a week, cant do it anymore and besides, you can make more money on slower moving stuff, which is easier.
[07:28 am] Ed : trend still down in AAPL and SPY
[07:29 am] Mitch K: both taco
[07:29 am] Mitch K: im telling you now i have the exact same program, no other differences
[07:29 am] Mitch K: this is my chart on AAPL, not sure why you guys are that slow, i think it is a big diff between computers and internet speed.  those two combined.
[07:30 am] Mitch K: Ed has real good speed
[07:30 am] Mitch K: call up provider and upgrade to max speed.  Like Captain Kirk says to Scottie, "I need more power"
[07:31 am] Mitch K: Ed has fios right?  thats really balance down and up, i'd rather have his speed than mine.  i get about 80mbps down and 5 up
[07:32 am] Mitch K: oh thats real good qwert, real good
[07:32 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[07:34 am] Mitch K: going to get another long pretty soon on AAPL
[07:34 am] Mitch K: now combine that speed with a dual Xeon processor, 8 cores each at 2.4ghz or higher, you really got a good setup.  ideally you get an expensive load balancer router, antoher $3800, get 3 inputs, 1 dsl and 2 cables, and now you are at top speed except for on Nasdaq exchange on NY city, thats fastest
[07:35 am] Mitch K: watching AAPL soon, really soon
[07:35 am] Mitch K: im excessive, obsessive lisa
[07:36 am] Mitch K: lets go through some settings on a 2nd aaple chart, after this apple bounce
[07:37 am] Mitch K: probably 542 on AAPl
[07:41 am] Mitch K: very weak
[07:44 am] Mitch K: we should have selling pressure today on Friday, people are a little scared to go into weekend long with the lunatics running the asylum [politicians]
[07:48 am] Mitch K: not expecting much more on AAPL
[07:48 am] Mitch K: good trade scalp
[07:49 am] Mitch K: i suppose you guys want me to explain this, right, lol?
[07:49 am] Mitch K: thats all i was looking for,
[07:49 am] Mitch K: im trading with a target profit on aapl
[07:50 am] Mitch K: he is smarter than me
[07:50 am] Mitch K: shorts are 4 times more profitable than longs.  thats why Ed shorted same time i sold long
[07:50 am] Mitch K: we are in a downtrend but i was making money on the long scalp, what is called the countertrend.
[07:50 am] Mitch K: i expected same behavior in this
[07:51 am] Mitch K: lol, cruel person
[07:51 am] Mitch K: Ed is 15 years younger too,
[07:51 am] Mitch K: its sort of a handoff in football, a reverse if you will
[01:06 pm] Mitch K: 7:51:01am sell
[07:52 am] Mitch K: im not even dead yet and Ed is selling me short
[07:55 am] Ed : monitoring RGR, been in downtrend so far
[08:01 am] Ed : Boehner speaking
[08:01 am] Ed : thats on RGR
[08:01 am] Ed : would like some more selling see how it reacts to that 50 area
[08:26 am] Mitch K: you guys watching NG, natural gas?  moving well
[08:31 am] Mitch K: scalpman, NG is the futures symbol NG 01-13 for natural gas, not the stock symbol NG
[08:42 am] Mitch K: MXIM spike
[08:43 am] Mitch K: CTXS moving
[08:58 am] Mitch K: consider covering CTXS short
[08:59 am] Mitch K: starting to watch AAPL again
[09:08 am] Mitch K: looking for 2nd helping short in CTXS, looking for 61.75 area
[09:25 am] Ed : SPY trading in small range
[09:29 am] Ed : good eye sman
[09:45 am] Mitch K: consider covering most of CTXS soon
[09:47 am] Mitch K: DDS spike
[09:48 am] Mitch K: buy signal on NG 01-13
[09:58 am] Ed : see if we get some more buyers in FDO to get setup for potential short
[10:07 am] Mitch K: DDS short 2nd helping
[10:15 am] Mitch K: you guys notice that day that FCX bot PXP and MMR, there was great movement, vol, i think it was tuesday.  wednesday also was good.  interesting how that brought in  traders, probably lot of professionals, hedgies, program trading
[10:26 am] Mitch K: ACAT an ipo a few days ago i think
[10:27 am] Mitch K: never mind i was thinking another stock
[11:11 am] Ed : tight range on SPy
[11:31 am] Mitch K: we can go through this later if you are in a trade
[11:31 am] Mitch K: hey guys, we can go through that AAPL chart on Lightning now.  was it a 1 min chart that was later for your chart than mine
[11:32 am] Mitch K: pacific time
[11:32 am] Mitch K: i think around 737am
[11:32 am] Mitch K: was it a 1 min chart we were looking at
[11:34 am] Mitch K: what candle or time did you get a buy signal on AAPL on a 1 min chart, i have 737am pacific
[11:35 am] Mitch K: and that was a failed trade
[11:35 am] Mitch K: that was a post from earlier at 719am here in the room
[11:35 am] Mitch K: Mitch K: got signal 1 min long
[11:36 am] Mitch K: at 719 skydiver
[11:36 am] Mitch K: check that time around 719am, see what you have
[11:37 am] Mitch K: i thoguht several of you said you didnt have a signal yet until like a min later or 2
[11:38 am] Mitch K: ok look at this indicator by right clicking on the chart, indicators, highlight the Lightning stocksBeta indicator in the lower left window of that popup window
[11:39 am] Mitch K: when it is set at False, you will get a signal mid candle and this is a more sensitive setting
[11:39 am] Mitch K: and then look to see what setting you have below Data on the upper right where it says Calculate on bar close = False or True
[11:40 am] Mitch K: when Calculate on Bar Close = False, you get more signals.  Sometimes they are earlier too.
[11:41 am] Mitch K: now we already talked about bandwidth and computer power affects the timing of signals but it shouldnt be that much slower like a minute or 2, should only result in seconds
[11:41 am] Mitch K: i had my chart set to False, but i found that ive liked the True better because i get a more confirmed signal.
[11:42 am] Mitch K: ok, so doji got signal same time as me.
[11:42 am] Mitch K: so i prefer that question to be answered as True even though my chart was set to false without my knowing it.
[11:43 am] Mitch K: the reason why i got crazy with internet speed is because i know it affects some trades occasionally, on fast movers, high volume stocks
[11:44 am] Mitch K: yes i have done that many times joey and only see a diff on the fast movers.  i have backtested this many times and found that True consistently outperforms  False
[11:45 am] Mitch K: i would keep setting on True but you test it for yourself because you need to build confidence in this system more than me because it is new to you.
[11:46 am] Mitch K: ok, i thought True was set as default so I was surprised to see mine was set to False but I am always fiddling around with this
[11:47 am] Mitch K: oh that was  agood one sman, i needed about 20 seconds sooner, can you check your internet speed,?  lol
[11:48 am] Mitch K: yes i have done that a lot of times
[11:49 am] Mitch K: there is a NinjaTrader video on Youtube for replay mode, most anything you have questions on NinjaTrader there is a youtube video
[11:54 am] Mitch K: GRPN on fire today
[11:57 am] Mitch K: thats typical taco for a no-name stock
[12:14 pm] Mitch K: Interactive Brokers works with stocks and futures chingo.  MB Trading also good choice
[12:15 pm] Mitch K: MB Trading
[12:15 pm] Mitch K: here is a complete list of brokerage partners, i think there are 43
[12:15 pm] Mitch K: http://www.ninjatrader.com/partners
[12:25 pm] Ed : NXY alert
[12:27 pm] Ed : will look for potential long
[12:27 pm] Ed : covering all NXY short
[12:31 pm] Ed : getting news shares are halted in canada
[12:31 pm] Ed : Im all out of NXY shares long
[12:32 pm] Ed : so be nimble on NXY
[12:33 pm] Ed : and stock is halted there last few minutes
[12:33 pm] Ed : Some news will be coming out of Canda soon on the stock
[12:33 pm] Ed : FYI: would not touch NYX anymore here
[12:49 pm] Mitch K: nice job on NXY boys and girls
[12:50 pm] Ed : Not enough time but what u do on stocks like IR, is look for retest near lod, and for higher low to be setup for long
[12:52 pm] Ed : US supreme cout to take up case of same sex marriage
[12:58 pm] Mitch K: MXIM spike down, not sure if real
[01:00 pm] Ed : have a greeat evening tradrs
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: yeah what interval and chart style on that joey
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: yeah, ive got the chart up front and center joey.
[01:04 pm] Mitch K: hey joey, or anyone
[01:06 pm] Mitch K: i was just talking to Ed and giving him status of 2nd version fo Lightning.  its really good for futures and forex, it helps on stocks but really helps futures and forex instruments.  but the version we are working on has last sell signal at 7:512:01am pacific time, its been one long short, still show red
[01:07 pm] Mitch K: as you know, lots and lots of testing, tweaks, retesting, changes, testing ahead
[01:07 pm] Mitch K: my goal has been to get rid of much of the excessive signals.
[01:08 pm] Mitch K: well, no, that wont happen.  perfection is impossible unless we;re in heaven or something.  but when you reduce 30% of signals and most of them are garbage signals, the profits go skyrocketing
[01:09 pm] Mitch K: instread of doing that joey, i'd rather just not have all those signals, just gone
[01:10 pm] Mitch K: yeah, thats a nice technique you have there
[01:12 pm] Mitch K: and whatever fits your personality and way of seeing things
[01:12 pm] Mitch K: yeah if something works for you consistently and you like it, keep repeating.  key to making moeny in financial markets is to repeat things that work.
[01:14 pm] Mitch K: let me show you a few sman
[01:16 pm] Mitch K: i totally agree joey, im telling you this 2nd version ive been working on is kick axx
[01:17 pm] Mitch K: ok check this out, this next chart im going to project on NXY
[01:17 pm] Mitch K: aint no brag, just fact.  i have to admit we got lucky.  had specific goals for 2nd version and it only took 2.5 months to achieve.  i anticipated would take 5-6 months

[06:11 am] taco  : good morning all
[06:11 am] mikewd2 -: good morning traders
[06:11 am] taco  : nice moves in es gc si and cl
[06:11 am] khall  : good Friday morning!
[06:11 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:11 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Mitch, traders
[06:12 am] chinhngo  : good morning
[06:12 am] mikewd2 -: would like that to Mitch, just not the sell off first - haha
[06:12 am] Mitch K: hey chingo, did you get that real time quotes working on Kinetick?
[06:12 am] joeytsa  : nice ES pop off the job #
[06:13 am] chinhngo  : yes
[06:13 am] taco  : thanks for heads up
[06:13 am] taco  : n info ystrd
[06:13 am] Mitch K: ok good, so your charts are updating in real time now chingo?
[06:13 am] chinhngo  : yes i think so thank
[06:13 am] qwert  : Good morning everyone
[06:14 am] chinhngo  : and happy just make 300 for sell tfz12
[06:14 am] Mitch K: did you get stocks only or futures forex too with quotes and Lightning?  you can see if a chart is moving real time by highlighting CL 01-13
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : gap up: AAPL,SHLD,NFLX,BAGL
[06:14 am] skydiver  : gm all
[06:15 am] joeytsa  : gap down: AMRN,FMCN,
[06:15 am] chinhngo  : i email to you subcribe future and paid all fute of kinetic
[06:15 am] taco  : thanks for gaps
[06:15 am] chinhngo  : hope i will have future on monday
[06:15 am] joeytsa  : unemployment fell to 7.7%
[06:16 am] mikewd2 -: yeah decent jobs number joey
[06:16 am] joeytsa  : only because 350k left the market
[06:16 am] joeytsa  : and seasonal hiring
[06:16 am] mikewd2 -: guess they didn't count the hostess people?
[06:16 am] joeytsa  : sept/oct both revised down
[06:17 am] joeytsa  : construction/manufacturing reduced employment also
[06:18 am] gum  : Mitch, Is
[06:18 am] chinhngo  : watch amrn go down 20%
[06:18 am] mikewd2 -: Sarepta updates data from Study 202 of steplirsen for treatment of DMD
[06:18 am] mikewd2 -: Sarepta updates data from Study 202 of steplirsen for treatment of DMD
[06:19 am] joeytsa  : SRPT had gapped up, pulled back
[06:19 am] mikewd2 -: i guess data was that good
[06:20 am] joeytsa  : was over $30 earlier, touched $28 a few minutes back
[06:20 am] mikewd2 -: wasn't that good i meant
[06:21 am] skydiver  : AMRN take over is still probable - from fly on the wall
[06:21 am] gum  : Mitch, can we get more then one special chart in lighting at the same time ?
[06:22 am] mikewd2 -: sky did someone back out on takeover?
[06:22 am] skydiver  : not sure mike -- just quoted the verbal on it from fly on the wall  -- I'll see if I can find anything else
[06:23 am] mikewd2 -: ty sky
[06:24 am] Ed : Not sure what you mean by special chart but you can bring up more than one chart for lightning
[06:24 am] joeytsa  : good morning Ed
[06:24 am] Ed : good morning
[06:25 am] skydiver  : gm Mitch and Ed
[06:25 am] sman  : gm everyone
[06:27 am] doji  : Good day fellas.
[06:27 am] doji  : just saying hellow
[06:27 am] skydiver  : gm doji
[06:28 am] doji  : hope you make a lot of money today
[06:28 am] Ed : hey doji
[06:28 am] doji  : Hi Ed
[06:28 am] doji  : see ya later... quite busy at the office
[06:28 am] doji  : have a great and profitable day
[06:28 am] joeytsa  : bye doji
[06:28 am] Ed : alright, thx
[06:29 am] taco  : thanks doji
[06:29 am] mikewd2 -: a push over 555.60 area on AAPL should be bullish sign - i think
[06:29 am] elisha  : Good Morning Mitch, Ed and everyone
[06:30 am] joeytsa  : watching LULU
[06:31 am] sman  : CMTL
[06:32 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL moving
[06:32 am] joeytsa  : 1416-1419 ES range, look for a break either way
[06:32 am] joeytsa  : thats the R1/R1 range
[06:34 am] joeytsa  : watching BIDU for bottom
[06:34 am] mikewd2 -: watching FST, lower priced stock and vol
[06:35 am] joeytsa  : keeping ATHN on radar..nice move yesterday
[06:35 am] sman  : AET
[06:36 am] joeytsa  : great call on PANW
[06:39 am] joeytsa  : nice on NFLX :)
[06:39 am] joeytsa  : BIDU trying to hold $88
[06:40 am] joeytsa  : nice ES pullback
[06:40 am] taco  : watching AKAM
[06:40 am] qwert  : SWHC
[06:41 am] Ed : i actually like trading ES now thx to you joey
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: House Speaker Boehner schedules press conference for 11 am ET
[06:41 am] Ed : thx mike
[06:41 am] joeytsa  : good Ed, did you get that jobs # play?
[06:42 am] Ed : i did and the short
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : :)
[06:42 am] taco  : ya good insight joey
[06:43 am] qwert  : Later when you have time please explain ES play i just watched this am and trying to learn
[06:44 am] joeytsa  : qwert: i will re-link the article later
[06:44 am] sman  : DECK
[06:44 am] qwert  : okay thanks joey
[06:44 am] joeytsa  : i actually bracketed the price
[06:45 am] Ed : nice breakout on DECK
[06:45 am] joeytsa  : ES held that R1 level posted earlier
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : CAT slow steady up
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : AMZN lod
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : COO spike
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : BIDU into res, tighten if long
[06:49 am] qwert  : Watching FCX
[06:50 am] khall  : consumer sentiment coming out in about 4 mins.
[06:50 am] joeytsa  : thx khall
[06:51 am] joeytsa  : yeah the UofM #'s
[06:52 am] joeytsa  : AAPL lod, NFLX pulled back
[06:53 am] joeytsa  : DECK still strong
[06:53 am] skydiver  : DECK  - rumors - pop up came up on my fly on the wall --
[06:53 am] sman  : MAN
[06:54 am] joeytsa  : decent bounce on LULU
[06:55 am] joeytsa  : watching ATHN to see if it breaks from $72/73 range
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : markets not doing anything with UofM #
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: DECK turning over
[07:01 am] lisas  : interesting, mine didn't signal yet
[07:02 am] skydiver  : nor mine lisas
[07:03 am] lisas  : now it did
[07:03 am] skydiver  : mine just popped up too on one minute
[07:03 am] lisas  : ok
[07:05 am] joeytsa  : BIDU same pattern as yesterday. drop, bounce, pullback to higher low, then up
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : AAPL at prev cl
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : ES testing R1 res
[07:07 am] mikewd2 -: markets helping AAPL
[07:07 am] skydiver  : great lesson Mitch - thnx
[07:08 am] joeytsa  : very nice
[07:08 am] joeytsa  : nice move on BIDU also
[07:09 am] go4it  : thanks for LULU!
[07:10 am] khall  : about those settings....
[07:10 am] khall  : I still don't have a sell signal on AAPL 1 min
[07:10 am] joeytsa  : AAPL pullback to prev cl
[07:10 am] lisas  : me either khall
[07:11 am] joeytsa  : Mitch, are you on dsl, T3?
[07:12 am] jsn13  : Mitch, did u use Calculate on Bar Clsoed = True?
[07:12 am] jsn13  : i mean False....so more sensitive
[07:12 am] joeytsa  : nice
[07:13 am] joeytsa  : crazy
[07:13 am] lisas  : how to check pc speed, mine is 2.80 ghz in properties
[07:13 am] Ed :  http://www.speedtest.net
[07:14 am] taco  : i just got sell on 1 min apple
[07:14 am] cowboyh  : same here Taco
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : well worth the money
[07:15 am] jsn13  : Mitch, I think u r using the Calculate on Bar Closed = False settings....If not, it is quite impossible that we will get our 1st signal that late....
[07:15 am] taco  : ping is 16ms, download is 15.4 up is 1.05Mbps
[07:15 am] taco  : thanks Ed, is that good?
[07:15 am] lisas  : My Ping was 16ms, download 19.8, upload 4.35 mbps
[07:16 am] taco  : what needs to be faster?
[07:16 am] doji  : hahahah mine is 25ms, download 18.3, download 1.03
[07:17 am] Ed : alright will do Mitch
[07:17 am] skydiver  : good to know for speeds on internet - thnx
[07:17 am] lisas  : not sure mitch, maybe we can go over this later, I realize market still moving some
[07:19 am] doji  : Buy sungal in APPL 1min
[07:19 am] doji  : me too Mitch
[07:19 am] taco  : my buy signal is in sink
[07:20 am] skydiver  : having 8 lightning charts open at same time -- is that too many?
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : 8 charts probably drive you crazy with suzie signal though
[07:21 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : i have 3 up, she talks more than my wife haha
[07:22 am] skydiver  : gotcha joey -- I have 8 up 4 1one minute and 4 2 minute
[07:23 am] Ed : thx Mitch, I reversed went short for quick profit
[07:24 am] doji  : sell in APPL 1min
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : reminder: boehner speaking top of hour
[07:25 am] joeytsa  : thanks Mitch
[07:25 am] sman  : ASPS - low vol
[07:25 am] skydiver  : yes Mitch -- and thansks
[07:25 am] joeytsa  : trades like that can make your month if played correctly
[07:26 am] qwert  : watching VNTV
[07:27 am] joeytsa  : AAPL to test $540
[07:28 am] skydiver  : nice Mitch - thnx for lightning showing up -- I can compare mine to it
[07:29 am] taco  : yes thanks, def. diff signals
[07:29 am] taco  : is it upload or download that is slow on mine?
[07:29 am] lisas  : what's your computer's speed?
[07:30 am] Ed : my sppeed test  42.76 mps download,  27.10mps upload and 10ms ping
[07:30 am] taco  : 16Mbps down, 1 up
[07:30 am] skydiver  : okay -- going to bump up my internet speed - mine is too slow
[07:30 am] taco  : good to know thank you
[07:30 am] lisas  : what internet do you have Ed?
[07:30 am] skydiver  : I think Ed had God speed internet
[07:30 am] skydiver  : has
[07:31 am] Ed : i have fios by verizon
[07:31 am] skydiver  : very nice Ed -- thnx for info
[07:31 am] mikewd2 -: APPL trying to bounce off PP
[07:31 am] Ed : even if yo have others you can get them to bump it up
[07:32 am] lisas  : yeah, they stopped about 3 blocks on install in our neighborhood about 3 years ago
[07:32 am] mikewd2 -: fail thru
[07:32 am] skydiver  : souinds like you need to move lisas :)
[07:32 am] taco  : nice on ASPS sman
[07:32 am] qwert  : with charter cable i have ping 11ms 100.71 download and 5.27 upload
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : ALXN weak
[07:32 am] Ed : ASPS was nice one
[07:32 am] Ed : nice qwert
[07:33 am] lisas  : What's your actual computer speed?
[07:33 am] qwert  : where do you see that lisa
[07:34 am] sman  : CTRX
[07:34 am] lisas  : yes, but what's realistic for us?
[07:35 am] lisas  : Mine is 2.8 ghz, I count 8 cores
[07:35 am] lisas  : News to me Mitch, lol:)
[07:36 am] lisas  : now you realize, I'm close to NY than you, that makes a difference right, lol
[07:37 am] taco  : perf buy signal
[07:37 am] Ed : been great trading stock today
[07:46 am] scalpman  : sell 1/2 AAPL L ///wow Thanks...I got a get me one of these!
[07:46 am] scalpman  : Sell 1/4 AAPL L
[07:47 am] taco  : i see the candles forming as the price moves too cool
[07:47 am] qwert  : watching FRAN
[07:47 am] scalpman  : All out AAPL L
[07:48 am] skydiver  : nice scalp
[07:48 am] taco  : nice one
[07:48 am] Ed : nice trading Mr. scalpman
[07:49 am] scalpman  : Thank you, yes mitch please do...
[07:49 am] skydiver  : yes Mitch - thnx
[07:50 am] taco  : ah right
[07:50 am] qwert  : hahaha
[07:51 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:51 am] Ed : more like 35
[07:52 am] qwert  : hahaha
[07:52 am] Ed : lol
[07:52 am] taco  : lol
[07:52 am] scalpman  : Let's do another!
[07:52 am] Ed : ooops
[07:52 am] qwert  : ahahaha
[07:52 am] skydiver  : hahahahah
[07:53 am] scalpman  : ...just for learning purposes!
[07:54 am] scalpman  : 5 minutes..
[07:57 am] joeytsa  : GS trading near lows, see what happens as we get closer to boehner
[07:58 am] qwert  : Joey when you have time can you explain here or on facebook your bracket ES trade from this am
[07:58 am] scalpman  : I'm.....back! (I've been doing Independence Day lines)
[07:59 am] joeytsa  : no prob qwert
[07:59 am] lisas  : ditto qwert
[07:59 am] lisas  : thanks joey
[07:59 am] joeytsa  : i expected a pop on the ES with the job #, wasnt sure which way
[07:59 am] sman  : YNDX - 15 min looks nice
[07:59 am] joeytsa  : had a buy order above, sell order below
[07:59 am] joeytsa  : once 1 triggered i cancelled the other..nothing fancy
[08:00 am] qwert  : sounds like a good idea how far away do you place the orders from current price
[08:00 am] joeytsa  : i put mine at 1408, 1411
[08:01 am] skydiver  : nice joey --
[08:01 am] lisas  : you can place those in TS Joey so they automatically cancel the one not filled on a breakout order
[08:01 am] joeytsa  : boehner speaking
[08:01 am] scalpman  : PANL
[08:01 am] joeytsa  : correct lisa
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: boehner talking
[08:01 am] lisas  : I use those, otherwise I might forget to cancel other
[08:02 am] joeytsa  : :)
[08:02 am] mikewd2 -: markets tanking
[08:02 am] skydiver  : must be good news
[08:02 am] joeytsa  : strategy usually works on any major upcoming news
[08:02 am] skydiver  : tanking markets
[08:06 am] mikewd2 -: markets have been bouncing back after these guys quit talking,
[08:06 am] lisas  : I've sim traded it on tnotes for a long time, usually does well.
[08:06 am] joeytsa  : qwert: here is that article i linked yesterday...
[08:06 am] skydiver  : interesting mike
[08:06 am] joeytsa  : http://www.shadowtraders.com/Articles/Advanta ges%20of%20Futures%20Trading%20Over%20Stock%2 0Trading.html
[08:07 am] joeytsa  : lisa: do you trade the ZB/ZN?
[08:07 am] joeytsa  : ALXN still trying to find a bottom
[08:08 am] lisas  : I did for a while, still track some specific set ups.
[08:08 am] joeytsa  : gotya
[08:09 am] lisas  : I still watch for "tell" on what markets are doing also
[08:09 am] joeytsa  : nice..just "tell" us  ;)
[08:09 am] qwert  : Thanks Joey good article
[08:09 am] lisas  : funny, ok
[08:10 am] joeytsa  : no prob qwert
[08:10 am] lisas  : If anyone plans on trading them, they need to keep close track of auctions. Not on some news services.
[08:11 am] joeytsa  : good point
[08:12 am] scalpman  : PANL S @ 27.00
[08:13 am] scalpman  : cover 1/2 PANL S
[08:14 am] taco  : nice one scalp
[08:14 am] scalpman  : Cover another 1/4 PANL S
[08:14 am] scalpman  : holding last piece  near b.e.
[08:15 am] lisas  : Mitch, I've noticed that Lightning give buy signals on new HOD sometimes. Have you been trading those? For example APC right now 1m
[08:15 am] scalpman  : TS scanner works pretty well. I wish I could fine tune it. No parameters...but it finds rapidly rising, rapidly falling...
[08:16 am] scalpman  : Trailing down on PANL S
[08:16 am] mikewd2 -: SPY trying to bounce
[08:16 am] scalpman  : all out PANL S
[08:17 am] scalpman  : 2 for 2 today...
[08:17 am] joeytsa  : nice trading scalp
[08:17 am] scalpman  : waiting for the good ones!
[08:17 am] scalpman  : Thanks Joey!
[08:17 am] skydiver  : way to go scalp
[08:17 am] scalpman  : Thanks skydiver
[08:18 am] joeytsa  : good plan, let them come to you
[08:18 am] Mitch K: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4U6T_BB1N8
[08:18 am] Mitch K: i am not recommending doing this at all, usually ends in death
[08:19 am] joeytsa  : for sale : 1 parachute, never opened, small stain  :)
[08:19 am] Mitch K: lol
[08:19 am] lisas  : scalpman, there is a way to set up customized scanners, saw class ages ago, so dont' remember how. It's on my very long "to do" list, lol
[08:20 am] joeytsa  : scanners on what program?
[08:21 am] joeytsa  : that looks like a lot of fun Mitch
[08:21 am] scalpman  : Yes lisas, I used to use the Etrade scanner...it was programable. But I couldn't get to do the "rapidly" rise or fall as well as TS...
[08:22 am] scalpman  : I close my etrade account...wasn't useful.
[08:22 am] scalpman  : closed
[08:23 am] joeytsa  : Mitch have you ever seen this one...
[08:23 am] scalpman  : But with the TS Hot Picks..I look at last and volume....and just eyeball the one with 750K shares and range from 10 or above
[08:23 am] joeytsa  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A_h2AjJaMw
[08:24 am] joeytsa  : makes my feet sweat watching haha
[08:24 am] scalpman  : HCA
[08:24 am] scalpman  : RIMM
[08:26 am] scalpman  : FRAN
[08:26 am] lisas  : scalp, have about 6 hot lists open, gappers, up, down, nyse, nadsac. Copy symbol column to radarscreen, then sort by price, delete the low price, then sort by percent move, delete low percent moves, then left with some pretty good ones. Then I can put indicators in radarscreen with alerts
[08:27 am] scalpman  : Lisas, post one or more if they appear interesting.
[08:27 am] joeytsa  : nice lisa
[08:28 am] scalpman  : NG?
[08:28 am] lisas  : I didn't set it up today scalp, trying to focus on Lightning, I'm getting too many things going to keep track of, lol. Corn's had a nice move down though
[08:29 am] scalpman  : I passed on NG
[08:29 am] joeytsa  : scalp passed natural gas, i guess sky bought him a taco
[08:29 am] scalpman  : ha
[08:30 am] lisas  : and then some people, I won't mention by name keep posting videos to distract us!!!!!
[08:30 am] scalpman  : No...taco did!
[08:30 am] taco  : )
[08:30 am] scalpman  : RIM dropping
[08:30 am] scalpman  : RIMM
[08:31 am] joeytsa  : :)
[08:31 am] sman  : TSN
[08:31 am] skydiver  : just read your post on Taco -- too funny joey
[08:32 am] lisas  : yes:)
[08:32 am] lisas  : APC gave good signal
[08:33 am] scalpman  : cover 1/2 RIMM S (1%)
[08:34 am] victor51  : Mitch/Ed thanks RGR L. Lightning gave buy and sell alert pretty good. Buy was at the bottom of red zone. Nice ride
[08:35 am] scalpman  : Thanks mitch I figured that when the stock chart looked pretty bleak.
[08:37 am] Ed : nice vic on RGR
[08:37 am] scalpman  : I on my 3rd trade with RIMM
[08:38 am] scalpman  : .not much money maybe 1% but the signal looked good with a 2nd lower high.
[08:39 am] scalpman  : ..see if it can break 12.0
[08:39 am] scalpman  : stopped b.e. for last 1/2
[08:41 am] qwert  : joey on your ES trade this am what kind of order do you use buy stop or buy stop limit
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : i just did a buy stop
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : limit always safer
[08:42 am] qwert  : okay thx
[08:44 am] joeytsa  : nice on CTXS
[08:48 am] victor51  : Will not be with you all next week. Will be with my brother on East who is just diagnosed with cancer.
[08:49 am] taco  : sorry tohear victor
[08:49 am] skydiver  : will keep you both in our prayers victor
[08:49 am] taco  : what kind?
[08:49 am] khall  : I'm so sorry victor
[08:50 am] qwert  : prayers going your his way Victor
[08:50 am] scalpman  : Cover 3/4 CTXS S
[08:50 am] lisas  : sorry to here Victor
[08:50 am] taco  : nice scalp
[08:50 am] qwert  : lovin CTXS thx mitch
[08:52 am] skydiver  : yes -- I got into CTXS a bit late -- s CTXS 61.71
[08:52 am] scalpman  : All out CTXS S
[08:52 am] skydiver  : all out of CTXS s
[08:53 am] Ed : nice trading on CTXS
[08:57 am] scalpman  : Cover another 1/4 RIMM (1%)
[08:58 am] victor51  : Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers.
[08:58 am] skydiver  : lulu - monitoring
[08:58 am] scalpman  : WPRT
[08:59 am] scalpman  : ..light volume on WPRT
[08:59 am] scalpman  : LULU
[08:59 am] Ed : sorry to hear vic
[08:59 am] scalpman  : oh...skydiver posted.
[09:01 am] skydiver  : no problem scalp :)
[09:04 am] scalpman  : All out RIMM S  0.58% on last piece
[09:05 am] scalpman  : Time to go...4/4 today...thanks for excellent trading ideas..
[09:05 am] elisha  : just saw your post vic, very sorry about your brother.  Will add him to my prayer list.  What is his name?
[09:05 am] scalpman  : I have NINJA and ordered Kinetic data feed today...for stocks...
[09:06 am] scalpman  : Looking forward to Lightning sim trades next week.
[09:07 am] skydiver  : see ya scap and good work . . enjoy the week-end
[09:08 am] scalpman  : Thanks skydiver.
[09:08 am] scalpman  : Bye guys have a great weekend!
[09:09 am] taco  : bye scalp good trades
[09:09 am] scalpman  : Bye  taco
[09:09 am] scalpman  : Scalpman has left the building!
[09:16 am] jsn13  : qwert, are u here?
[09:19 am] qwert  : yep im here jsn
[09:20 am] jsn13  : did u take the CTXS short? what was ur entry price? was thta ur only entry?
[09:20 am] qwert  : yes at 61.95
[09:21 am] qwert  : yes only 1 entry
[09:21 am] chinhngo  : short ctxs at 61.64
[09:22 am] chinhngo  : ctxs lightning chart at buy signal
[09:23 am] jsn13  : qwert, is there a signal at 8.45 pst to short for CTXS?
[09:25 am] chinhngo  : 9.20pstime ctxs have sell signal at 1 minute
[09:25 am] qwert  : Its a news mover so to me its based on action
[09:26 am] chinhngo  : qwert what is the new of ctxs
[09:27 am] qwert  : dont know  :)
[09:28 am] jsn13  : qwert, so 8.45 is too early of an entry for u? and the signal only came in at 8.46pst and entry at 8.47pst?
[09:29 am] sman  : Z
[09:32 am] skydiver  : Z shows rumor of take over speculaton -- sorry so late on this news
[09:32 am] murano  : NCR
[09:34 am] skydiver  : I hava a buy signal for apple on one minute
[09:34 am] skydiver  : aapl
[09:34 am] Ed : just recall that we are in downtrend so be nimble if you counter the trend
[09:35 am] skydiver  : thnx for reminder Ed . . . just finished ordering faster internet service -- have to wait for new modem to be shipped to me
[09:35 am] Ed : cool
[09:35 am] reshef  : ABT
[09:35 am] qwert  : nice sky
[09:35 am] skydiver  : want to make sure Lilghtning works well . . my computer is fast . . but slow internet
[09:36 am] Ed : thats like having a race car getting on too jam packed highway of traffic
[09:37 am] skydiver  : yes Ed . .  I love seeing a local lamburginni stuck in traffic
[09:37 am] Ed : lol
[09:37 am] skydiver  : we're moving arouind 5 miles per hour and there it is . . . in all it'
[09:37 am] skydiver  : it's glory
[09:37 am] skydiver  : :)
[09:37 am] taco  : haha
[09:37 am] skydiver  : of course the owner isn't smiling
[09:39 am] jsn13  : ed, i have q uestion on CTXS short just now at around 11.45 est....r u free now?
[09:39 am] taco  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RrqIUu_mE[09:40 am] taco  : may have been posted b4
[09:40 am] Ed : ask and will try to respond while scanning
[09:42 am] Ed : whats ur question
[09:42 am] jsn13  : ok thanks....I took an aggressive entry at 11.45 est at 61.95....and got stopped out of course....i took it absed on 11.45 huge price and voluem bar with the upper shadow....tot it has exhausted....so my question is, is the entry too early?
[09:43 am] jsn13  : i mean the 11.44est huge bar...
[09:43 am] chinhngo  : buy cover ctxs thank mitch
[09:44 am] jsn13  : and why did u enter at 11.47 est?
[09:44 am] joeytsa  : victor: just saw your post, prayers sent
[09:45 am] Ed : all about the art, if u took it there with stop above HOD, you would have been stopped, and at that point u could make a choice to take 1more short if u get signal or just look for next setup. Its just sometimes it works at sometimes not
[09:46 am] doji  : Back to the room fellas
[09:46 am] Mitch K: good job chingo
[09:46 am] joeytsa  : ADT small spike
[09:46 am] doji  : I forgot to mention that I bought FSLR puts... see the daily... all the move has been on lower volume... that is not sustainable
[09:48 am] jsn13  : ed, so the reason u short at 11.47 est is? the only thing that i feel that the entry was too aggressive was that I don's have a clear S/R level with me...
[09:49 am] Ed : i was responding to ur question jsn, u meantioned u took it short there
[09:50 am] Ed : if u feel u dont have the edge on particular setup, its alright to pass
[09:52 am] jsn13  : yup understand....after that i added another question...ok so may i know the context u used that signaled to u CTXS has exhausted itself at 11.46 and there was no signal at 11.44?
[09:53 am] chinhngo  : bought ctxs at 60.88
[09:53 am] jsn13  : i mean the real singal at 11.47 not 11.46est...sorry...
[09:54 am] Ed : I nver stated it exhausted itself, was just trying to get u too look at the simplistic part of the trade and not overanalyze
[09:55 am] Ed : example, stocks did not get pass 62.50, so in putting on trade u know or should where u want ur stop to be and potential profit, if it makes new high u should be out of trade stand aside and reasses
[09:55 am] Ed : thats the simplistic part Im speaking of
[09:56 am] jsn13  : ok thanks...maybe i should have reentered....right, i wont enter if i have no stop....
[09:57 am] taco  : in sim i entered at 11:47 'cause prev 2 candles matched and mine didn't go too far (the one i entered on )
[09:57 am] taco  : much further
[09:58 am] reshef  : FDO
[09:58 am] jsn13  : taco, so what was ur signal for entry?
[09:59 am] taco  : basically that 11:47 didn't make a lot bigger high
[09:59 am] joeytsa  : tighten ADT if short
[09:59 am] taco  : and i breathed easier when next candle was red otherwise stop was waiting
[09:59 am] taco  : to reassess
[09:59 am] taco  : etc..
[10:00 am] taco  : and nearby highs were only 62.70 in days b4
[10:00 am] jsn13  : ok thanks.....nice explanation....
[10:01 am] taco  : np
[10:01 am] Ed : good observation taco, those are things that allow u to see bigger pic, 1 did not reach prev. high of 62.70 and today 62.48 was high, so going from larger to smaller view 15min to 1min, making lower high
[10:01 am] taco  : plus a downtrending stock as well
[10:02 am] Ed : so with those in mind, then matter of waiting on good setup to get on the train
[10:03 am] taco  : i'm working on building my belief database up each time i do better
[10:04 am] Ed : thats great
[10:04 am] taco  : i liked your guys' play on that 5:1 stock "no brainer" yesterday
[10:05 am] jsn13  : ok nice....took too early of an entry...i guess i should really have waited for the price to go closer to prior high....
[10:05 am] Ed : right just goes to show not about right/wrong its all about the odds
[10:07 am] sman  : SBS - low vol
[10:07 am] jsn13  : im just look for ways to reduce my mistakes.....fine tuning my judgement of odds.....
[10:11 am] joeytsa  : Z selling off
[10:11 am] joeytsa  : about $1 so far
[10:13 am] doji  : Nice FSLR...
[10:14 am] doji  : playing puts... no shorts available in TDA
[10:14 am] regatta  : watching SWHC
[10:15 am] joeytsa  : doji: are the puts moving enough to give a decent profit?
[10:15 am] doji  : It;s a swing trade for me Joey
[10:16 am] joeytsa  : ahhh, gotya
[10:16 am] joeytsa  : yeah Mitch, guessing a lot of cash on the sidelines?
[10:17 am] joeytsa  : looking for a place to put it
[10:18 am] doji  : APPL 2min sell signal
[10:20 am] reshef  : AGU
[10:21 am] joeytsa  : low vol, be careful
[10:22 am] doji  : FB
[10:23 am] joeytsa  : ACAT, low vol, but $2 move
[10:26 am] doji  : Did anyone short FSLR? There are no shares in TDA
[10:26 am] joeytsa  : none at TS or LS either
[10:27 am] joeytsa  : ACAT has been around ahile
[10:27 am] joeytsa  : some family runs an Arctic Cat dealership in Michigan
[10:28 am] joeytsa  : big on snowmobiles
[10:36 am] chinhngo  : SHORT M AT 39.33 sell signal
[10:37 am] Ed : was not much movement in M, chin
[10:37 am] qwert  : watching SPRD
[10:38 am] reshef  : SPRD
[10:39 am] chinhngo  : ed thank i will pay more attention about movement
[10:39 am] sman  : EVEP
[10:39 am] sman  : DDS
[10:40 am] Ed : good deal
[10:44 am] reshef  : NETS
[10:44 am] reshef  : NTES
[10:44 am] sman  : SHLD
[10:53 am] chinhngo  : BOUGHT SPRD AT 16.15 BUY SIGNAL
[10:55 am] doji  : Chingo, I don't see the acceleratioon in price on SPRD...it has been dripping steadily
[10:56 am] reshef  : YOKU
[10:57 am] reshef  : WPRT
[11:11 am] joeytsa  : ES very choppy/tight range
[11:12 am] joeytsa  : slightly lower highs on the ES, but still in that tight range
[11:15 am] joeytsa  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaR_fZsgW_s[11:15 am] joeytsa  : short video to watch afterhours
[11:16 am] joeytsa  : decent advice...some of the other videos in the catalog are decent too
[11:16 am] taco  : thanks joey
[11:16 am] joeytsa  : especially for newer traders
[11:17 am] joeytsa  : also the t3live free course has some great info
[11:17 am] joeytsa  : take lots of notes, study then look at charts
[11:18 am] joeytsa  : Mitch always says to study charts...great advice
[11:18 am] joeytsa  : you start getting that "pattern recognition" skill
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : chin: you still in CTSX, if so, nice trade
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : CTXS i mena
[11:27 am] doji  : FB spiking
[11:27 am] sman  : DISH
[11:29 am] joeytsa  : NG beed trending down alsmot 4 hours now
[11:29 am] joeytsa  : watching TCK
[11:30 am] joeytsa  : low vol until last 10 minutes
[11:30 am] joeytsa  : chart re-scaled sorry
[11:31 am] taco  : LCC moving up again
[11:31 am] chinhngo  : sold sprd
[11:31 am] qwert  : now is good for me
[11:32 am] joeytsa  : think so Mitch
[11:32 am] qwert  : yes
[11:32 am] skydiver  : sounds good Mitch . yes one minute chart
[11:33 am] qwert  : yes thats the time
[11:34 am] skydiver  : SPY moving
[11:34 am] sman  : PSX
[11:35 am] skydiver  : well Mitch - mine shows buy signal aaron at 737am as well
[11:35 am] qwert  : i have 7:37pst price of 538.28
[11:36 am] skydiver  : gotcha Mitch -- ok
[11:36 am] skydiver  : AAPL jumped
[11:36 am] skydiver  : Shows buy signal Mitch - green aarow
[11:37 am] taco  : buy 545.12
[11:37 am] skydiver  : yes
[11:37 am] taco  : yes
[11:38 am] skydiver  : that is correct Mitch .. however .. looking back in histroy it is npw showing
[11:38 am] skydiver  : now
[11:38 am] skydiver  : I don't recall it showing earlier
[11:38 am] cowboyh  : thats right Mitch my internet speed is about like a heard of turtles
[11:39 am] taco  : ok
[11:39 am] skydiver  : ok got it
[11:39 am] taco  : true
[11:39 am] doji  : True
[11:39 am] skydiver  : True
[11:40 am] skydiver  : ok
[11:40 am] joeytsa  : do you like False better?
[11:40 am] skydiver  : maybe it will help on slower internet connectons?  I ordered much faster interent modem coming next week
[11:41 am] joeytsa  : good to know, thanks
[11:41 am] doji  : Mine triffered at the same time as you Mitch
[11:41 am] skydiver  : understand Mitch -- ok
[11:43 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: have you tried putting 2 charts side by side with 1 set to True, the other to False?
[11:43 am] joeytsa  : nice pullback on NFLX
[11:44 am] skydiver  : good info Mitch -- looking forward to faster internet soon
[11:44 am] joeytsa  : perfect, thank you
[11:44 am] skydiver  : I'lm keeping my setting at True then :)
[11:45 am] joeytsa  : i think True is the default
[11:45 am] skydiver  : undertood - still learning and getting used to the system
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : i think it is, but my charts were already set to True before i installed Lightning
[11:46 am] sman  : CBMX
[11:47 am] joeytsa  : I also think with Ninja, you can replay market action at a faster speed, to help you get quicker etc
[11:48 am] joeytsa  : never tried it though
[11:48 am] joeytsa  : gets you to practice making faster decisions
[11:48 am] skydiver  : good to know  - will practice :)
[11:49 am] skydiver  : thnx Mtich
[11:49 am] joeytsa  : youtube rocks..all of the Lightspeed webinars are there also
[11:50 am] skydiver  : thnx Joey as well :)
[11:50 am] joeytsa  : Market Replay,, file>connect
[11:51 am] joeytsa  : also under file is a "flatten everything" button, and there is also a way to have all positions automatically closed at a certain time
[11:51 am] joeytsa  : cant recall how to do it, but set mine up after i ended up with an overnight position unknown to me last year
[11:52 am] joeytsa  : accidently hit a button and ended up with a position on the ZN, woke up next morning in a sweat haha
[11:52 am] skydiver  : not fun
[11:53 am] skydiver  : CBMX sell signal on one minute
[11:53 am] joeytsa  : i just never take the time to dig into the platforms...so much they can do
[11:56 am] aussie123  : ES simply stuck at 1415.25
[11:56 am] taco  : no shorts allowed CBMX
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : yeah, R1 is 1415, darvis support at 1415
[11:56 am] taco  : for yesterday and today
[11:57 am] taco  : is that normal?
[11:57 am] taco  : thanks
[11:57 am] regatta  : NXY
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : CBMX huge move though
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : must have had some type of news, low was the open $1.97
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : maybe pumped by some crappy penny stock forum
[12:00 pm] aussie123  : Thanks Joey...must be doing something wrong ...I have R1 @ 1416
[12:01 pm] joeytsa  : sorry it is 1416, wrote it wrong
[12:01 pm] joeytsa  : darvis range 1415-1417
[12:01 pm] aussie123  : Thanks again
[12:01 pm] taco  : will check mon if shorts are allowed
[12:02 pm] joeytsa  : probably wont be taco
[12:02 pm] elisha  : Joey, would you mind telling me what is the"t3 live free course" you were referring to earlier?
[12:02 pm] joeytsa  : great course, lots of good info
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : its at their website
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : good lessons on risk, volume, charts etc
[12:04 pm] elisha  : Thank you .  But who is "they"?
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : t3live
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : some of the t3live guys do the Lightspeed webinars
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : http://www.t3live.com/
[12:05 pm] elisha  : Oooooh, thanks again.  I thought t3live was a typo.  Feel kind of silly
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : free course, scroll down a bit, on right side
[12:06 pm] joeytsa  : when you start combining lessons like that, with lessons from Mitch, then using Lightning in conjunction with s/r or patterns...you are on a good path
[12:07 pm] elisha  : Thanks for the help joey.  And all you guys.  I'm learning so much and hope to be able to contribute at some point beyond questions.
[12:08 pm] joeytsa  : and dont forget to study every lesson that Ed gives, esp on price and candle action/vol
[12:08 pm] elisha  : I'm doin that - take lots of notes.  Mitch and Ed are the bomb!
[12:09 pm] joeytsa  : you should see my notebooks
[12:09 pm] doji  : Joey on "coaching" mode... thanks Joey...you are really a master
[12:09 pm] joeytsa  : nah, just passing on info that might be of help or interest
[12:10 pm] joeytsa  : plus saving you 100's of hours of internet searching  hahaha
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : best thing is that all the info is free stuff
[12:12 pm] chinhngo  : mr mitch what broker you suggest to use or you use to trade
[12:12 pm] chinhngo  : with charles chwab i paid 6.99 commission
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : schwab has awful short inventory
[12:13 pm] chinhngo  : so i can transfer to use your lightning sofware
[12:14 pm] Ed : some in here like how interactive brokers works with ninja
[12:14 pm] doji  : Hey Joey, do you think we can drop from 100 hrs to let.s say, 10 hours if you come to Rio?
[12:14 pm] chinhngo  : mb what full name
[12:15 pm] joeytsa  : doji: what i meant is spending time trying to find info, not learn it :)
[12:15 pm] doji  : We spent 10 hours in trading lessons and the other 490 in the carnival.... hahaha'
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : i used MB Trading years ago, good company back then, havent tried them in a long time though
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : WDAY slight breakout
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : 50-60cent move
[12:17 pm] chinhngo  : how much for commission
[12:17 pm] joeytsa  : not sure
[12:17 pm] chinhngo  : i have option express for future
[12:17 pm] sman  : RY
[12:17 pm] joeytsa  : check website
[12:17 pm] joeytsa  : optionsxpress now owned by schwab
[12:17 pm] chinhngo  : joeyyta help i need your experience
[12:18 pm] qwert  : watching GWRE
[12:18 pm] doji  : Fellas, what does it mean when peploe says "stocks XX has been pinned"?
[12:18 pm] doji  : Ed. Joey?
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : means its pinned to a price
[12:19 pm] doji  : Got it....
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : traders not letting it get too far away
[12:19 pm] doji  : Like Apple at 530....
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : where most of the option action is
[12:20 pm] joeytsa  : maybe, could be 540
[12:21 pm] joeytsa  : some traders do a "weekly pin" trade
[12:21 pm] doji  : Ok, the price at where most of the volume is
[12:21 pm] joeytsa  : ie: if AAPL is pinned at 530, sell expiring calls above and expiring puts below
[12:22 pm] joeytsa  : chin, for you  http://www.mbtrading.com/
[12:22 pm] joeytsa  : decent prices it looks like
[12:22 pm] doji  : Short call above and short puts below..got it..
[12:22 pm] chinhngo  : thank joy how much for commission
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : depends on the vehicle..its all there
[12:23 pm] chinhngo  : does they have daly power margin 4 times
[12:23 pm] chinhngo  : like chwab
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : no clue, dont use them anymore
[12:24 pm] chinhngo  : joy thank antway
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : but if schwab does, i would think MB would
[12:24 pm] Ed : yes chin, if ur labled as day trader
[12:24 pm] chinhngo  : what is full name of   mb
[12:25 pm] joeytsa  : i linked it chin..scroll up
[12:25 pm] joeytsa  : 12:22 post
[12:25 pm] joeytsa  : nice on NXY
[12:25 pm] chinhngo  : i will search at weekend
[12:26 pm] joeytsa  : they had the best features when i used them, would think they are still top notch
[12:30 pm] doji  : Nice Ed...!
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : be careful of a potential halr
[12:31 pm] doji  : Long 21.73
[12:32 pm] joeytsa  : i wasnt quick enough to exit short and grab the long
[12:32 pm] joeytsa  : was worried about a halt
[12:32 pm] doji  : all out long at 24.1
[12:32 pm] doji  : Great!!!!!
[12:32 pm] skydiver  : humm =- tried to get a fill at 21.76 -- but missed it . . . nice gus
[12:32 pm] skydiver  : guys
[12:32 pm] taco  : nice guys
[12:32 pm] qwert  : nice DOJI
[12:32 pm] Ed : its halted in canada so be careful trading it now
[12:33 pm] joeytsa  : great long doji, Ed
[12:33 pm] joeytsa  : ES back into R1
[12:33 pm] taco  : GRPN jumping
[12:34 pm] doji  : nahhhh
[12:34 pm] Ed : nice trading doji on NYX
[12:34 pm] doji  : Thanks Ed. I used the 200dMA as support....
[12:34 pm] go4it  : Geat way to to end an already good day have a nice weekend all
[12:35 pm] Ed : nice going bruce, u get NYX trade
[12:35 pm] Ed : sorry NXY
[12:35 pm] go4it  : 70 cents:)
[12:35 pm] doji  : I now I just need APPL to close below 530 to keep riding my puts next week
[12:35 pm] joeytsa  : nice bruce !!!
[12:35 pm] Ed : nice
[12:36 pm] go4it  : gotta go bye
[12:36 pm] qwert  : have a great weekend bruce
[12:36 pm] joeytsa  : enjoy bruce
[12:36 pm] Ed : have great weekend bruce
[12:36 pm] skydiver  : take care go4it
[12:36 pm] joeytsa  : doji: nice catch on that 200ma
[12:36 pm] taco  : take care guys see you monday, great trading and lesson
[12:37 pm] doji  : Fellas hope next week you have a wonderf anf profitable time. I won't trade as I am heading for a business trip. I;ll try to connect to say HOLA!
[12:37 pm] Ed : qwert ur SPRD stock is bouncing
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : bye taco
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : be safe doji, need to schedule a trip to vegas :)
[12:38 pm] qwert  : yeah i got out earlier   been kind of in weekend mode for about the last hour   but got some NXY  long
[12:38 pm] doji  : Joey, will send you an e-mail. I am thinking in my next trip to Houston to go to Las Vegas....
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : sounds good
[12:38 pm] doji  : In February
[12:39 pm] doji  : or March
[12:39 pm] joeytsa  : you coming for my bd
[12:40 pm] doji  : Whe is it?
[12:40 pm] joeytsa  : 2/18...just dont jump out of a cake :)
[12:41 pm] doji  : hahaah
[12:41 pm] murano  : IR
[12:41 pm] doji  : YEs my and your "present"
[12:41 pm] doji  : me and
[12:41 pm] joeytsa  : interesting move murano
[12:41 pm] doji  : Really fast Murano
[12:41 pm] joeytsa  : crazy vol too
[12:43 pm] joeytsa  : Ed: cant remember, on TS do you use the order bar at top, or the quick trade bar feature?
[12:43 pm] murano  : Way to fast
[12:44 pm] Ed : i use order bar
[12:44 pm] joeytsa  : agreed murano
[12:44 pm] joeytsa  : ok, thanks
[12:44 pm] joeytsa  : i just cant see the spread good enough, thats way i like the qt bar
[12:44 pm] Ed : i tried quick bar, but dont like, maybe have not given it enough time
[12:44 pm] joeytsa  : i need new eyes
[12:46 pm] joeytsa  : what was the NXY news?
[12:46 pm] joeytsa  : orders flying again
[12:46 pm] Ed : none yet
[12:46 pm] joeytsa  : hmmm
[12:46 pm] Ed : maybe jsn can help us since he is in canada
[12:47 pm] Ed : any news jsn on NXY
[12:48 pm] jsn13  : not sure I dont have access to tv....haha....I feel like I'm in U with u guys...
[12:48 pm] jsn13  : i mean in US...
[12:49 pm] Ed : Looks like news will be released at 5:00pm in canada
[12:49 pm] joeytsa  : AAPL death cross on the daily
[12:50 pm] elisha  : is that when the 200 and 50 mas cross?
[12:50 pm] doji  : YEs...
[12:50 pm] joeytsa  : correct elisha
[12:50 pm] doji  : That is why I bough some puts yesterday....
[12:51 pm] elisha  : do i get an ice cream cone for that?
[12:51 pm] Ed : my favorite line by Denzel Washington in "man on fire",  "I wish you had more time"
[12:51 pm] joeytsa  : love that movie
[12:52 pm] Ed : the ballards for some songs are great also
[12:52 pm] joeytsa  : i like from Jaws  " we're gonna need a bigger boat"  :)
[12:52 pm] Ed : lol
[12:52 pm] joeytsa  : thats doji if AAPL keeps falling ;)
[12:52 pm] qwert  : man on fire awesome movie
[12:55 pm] joeytsa  : if AAPL can rebound up to the 20ma, might set up another great short
[12:56 pm] doji  : Ok fellas, time to go.... se ya in a week!
[12:56 pm] joeytsa  : bye doji, talk soon
[12:56 pm] Ed : safe trip doji
[12:57 pm] doji  : Scalpab has left the bui...... sory, Doji has left the vuilding.... hahahaha
[12:57 pm] joeytsa  : enjoy your chippendales tour :)
[12:57 pm] doji  : hahahah. Yes Joey... that is waht I had in mind for your birthday cake
[12:58 pm] joeytsa  : :)
[12:58 pm] doji  : See ya Ed, Micth
[12:58 pm] joeytsa  : doji as a kid..
[12:58 pm] Ed : c ya
[12:58 pm] joeytsa  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSBnNA_dHNU
[12:59 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch,Ed, traders..great calls today
[12:59 pm] joeytsa  : MXIM hit my scanner Mitch
[12:59 pm] doji  : hahaha good one Joey.
[12:59 pm] joeytsa  : :)
[12:59 pm] doji  : Love you brother.... have anice and healthy weekend
[12:59 pm] joeytsa  : Hope everyone has a great weekend, see you monday
[12:59 pm] joeytsa  : ditto
[12:59 pm] doji  : bye
[01:01 pm] joeytsa  : Mitch: NG nice move down past 5 hours
[01:02 pm] joeytsa  : Lightning gave signal aroudn 7:38pdt approx 3.677
[01:03 pm] joeytsa  : gave mulitple buy/sell..but big move down
[01:03 pm] joeytsa  : i have the 5R up
[01:03 pm] joeytsa  : for some reason, i locked into the 5R on NG, 4R on CL
[01:04 pm] joeytsa  : nice money if you only played on the side of the trend
[01:05 pm] joeytsa  : shorting each Lightning Sell, but avoiding the reversals
[01:07 pm] joeytsa  : would give big profit on that trade
[01:07 pm] joeytsa  : you will keep working on it until you only get winning signals :)
[01:08 pm] joeytsa  : i like Lightning on CL,NG using the overall trend
[01:09 pm] joeytsa  : short peaks in down trend, buy dips in uptrend with the according buy/sell signal
[01:09 pm] joeytsa  : ES i still like Lightning chart on the 578, and using my own setting for the 340t
[01:10 pm] joeytsa  : right, clean it up
[01:10 pm] joeytsa  : i have a really tight bollinger on my 340, using it for s/r along with a 4ma
[01:11 pm] joeytsa  : more for scalping ticks
[01:12 pm] joeytsa  : agree
[01:12 pm] sman  : MK - how did the signals for NXY look on Lightning?
[01:12 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, scalping 2-3ticks isnt for everyone
[01:14 pm] joeytsa  : Lightning + trading knowledge = a nice combination
[01:14 pm] joeytsa  : the better the trader, the better Lightning will be for them
[01:16 pm] sman  : ok, ready when u r
[01:16 pm] khall  : ditto
[01:17 pm] khall  : so do you have a delivery estimate on v2?
[01:17 pm] joeytsa  : honestly, i have always been skeptical of auto buy/sell programs...but liking the possibilities i am seeing
[01:18 pm] joeytsa  : ok
[01:19 pm] joeytsa  : :)
[01:20 pm] aussie123  : Son of a PUP
[01:20 pm] sman  : yes, can I get a wider view?
[01:20 pm] joeytsa  : using the 5R?
[01:20 pm] khall  : holy moley
[01:20 pm] elisha  : Is 5R a stock setting?
[01:21 pm] sman  : b 4 the drop, please
[01:21 pm] joeytsa  : i rarely look past the 1min
[01:21 pm] joeytsa  : on stocks
[01:23 pm] joeytsa  : Mitch: are you liking Lightning on daily charts for swings/int holds?
[01:23 pm] sman  : very cool
[01:24 pm] elisha  : How much time in a 5 R?
[01:24 pm] joeytsa  : can you pull up a daily of AAPL
[01:25 pm] joeytsa  : makes sense, good idea
[01:25 pm] joeytsa  : wow..you would have gotten that entire drop

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