Chat Highlights From 12/06/2011

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[06:01 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:25 am] Kris : good morning
[06:25 am] Kris : On the short side I'm watching FII, RMD, ROVI, PAA, ONE and LNKD.
[06:25 am] Kris : This morning I'm watching CRI, DUK, KSU and DRI for possible long trades
[06:28 am] Brent : good morning
[06:31 am] Kris : GMCR short half
[06:31 am] Mitch K: DRI should have quick bounce
[06:32 am] Kris : JPM short half
[06:32 am] Mitch K: CF worth short, late already
[06:34 am] Kris : YNDX short half
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching IP for bottom to buy
[06:36 am] Kris : out half GMCR short
[06:36 am] Mitch K: consider selling DRI above 43.50+
[06:36 am] Mitch K: OSG short soon, waiting for rebound, for better price to short
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching for bottom in GMCR
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching CREE for top, be patient
[06:40 am] Mitch K: Looking for quick pop in LVS and then possible short
[06:41 am] Ed : watching INHX
[06:42 am] Kris : looking for new lod in JPM
[06:42 am] Kris : out another 1/4 GMCR short
[06:42 am] Mitch K: consider covering OSG if short. normal procedure is to short half position even if late and wait for rebound to fill other half
[06:43 am] Brent : watching LLY for a short
[06:44 am] Ed : reduce INHX here
[06:47 am] Ed : out more INHX
[06:47 am] Mitch K: consider covering CF
[06:48 am] Mitch K: good habit to wait for GMCR to have extreme moves before reversing trade, still watching for bottom to buy, soon
[06:49 am] Ed : consider covering INHX
[06:52 am] Mitch K: mkt small bounce
[06:54 am] Kris : out half JPM short
[06:58 am] Mitch K: watching for top in DWA
[06:59 am] Mitch K: consider selling LVS if long, watching for 2nd helping short
[07:00 am] Mitch K: Dreamworks moves up on renewed takeover chatter
[07:00 am] Mitch K: VMC rumor
[07:04 am] Mitch K: buyout rumors advanced trade, DWA looks toppy, VMC looks hot but best to go in incremental orders
[07:06 am] Brent : SPY at trendline resistance
[07:07 am] Mitch K: watching FNSR for short
[07:08 am] Mitch K: my bias seems to be on the short side early in the session with very selective long scalps; as long as it keeps working I keep "rinse and repeating"
[07:10 am] Mitch K: NBR rumor
[07:10 am] Mitch K: watching LQDT, Liquidity Services for short
[07:12 am] Brent : careful with LLY, not acting right
[07:12 am] Mitch K: no hurry on the LQDT short, sort of hot right now
[07:19 am] Mitch K: projector not working. use your own charts as always. buyout rumor pattern ideal with DWA this morning, VMC also part of bo rumor scenario
[07:21 am] Brent : NFLX at lod[07:21 am] Mitch K: i just don't care for LLY short trade or long trade
[07:22 am] Kris : SPRD short half
[07:22 am] Mitch K: consider reducing the DWA short
[07:23 am] Mitch K: i can feel you want 3 DWA shorts a day, i hear you guys
[07:24 am] Mitch K: consider covering FNSR, only 20 cents but on 16.50 stock over 1%
[07:26 am] Mitch K: VMC toppy
[07:36 am] Mitch K: those are two different scenarios in the buyout rumor. DWA peaks and goes down in one motion, VMC has an initial move up, smaller correction and then higher high, then 2nd correction. eventually though, pulls back lower on the 2nd or 3rd pullback
[07:44 am] Kris : out half SPRD
[07:54 am] Kris : out another 1/4 SPRD short
[07:57 am] Kris : out all SPRD short
[08:01 am] Kris : we should get a bounce in the SPY here soon, see if we get a lower high, could setup for a test of the lod soon.
[08:06 am] Kris : so far weak bounce in SPY, feeling like more selling could be on the way.
[08:33 am] Mitch K: the DWA buyout rumor is the ideal chart pattern but most don't behave exactly like that. most of them are in between DWA and VMC chart
[08:39 am] Mitch K: ok you guys can cover DWA now, lol. went all the way back down from the start, very unusual
[09:11 am] Ed : watching CRK
[09:43 am] Mitch K: DNDN halted
[10:06 am] Mitch K: DNDN open
[10:18 am] Mitch K: small buy program
[10:33 am] Mitch K: CRK trending up
[10:33 am] Mitch K: projector not working, as you already figured out
[10:41 am] Ed : be back in 30
[11:31 am] Brent : SPY approaching hod[12:01 pm] Kris : look for a shallow pullback in the SPY here with some consolidation under the hod. we could get one more run to the high side into the close.
[12:02 pm] Kris : careful trading reversals this late in the day.
[12:02 pm] Kris : I like to stay selective waiting for the big moves to fade
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: i just don't see a thing interesting. slowest day in a while
[12:55 pm] Mitch K: no time for a long but just watching end of day selling
[01:00 pm] Brent : Have a good night, see you in the morning
[01:01 pm] Kris : Goodnight everyone. see you all tomorrow morning.
[01:01 pm] Mitch K: i love this type of chart on the right, the SPY. great chart pattern but too late today
[01:02 pm] Ed : good night

[06:03 am] joeytsa : IBD/TIPP econ outlook at 7am pst[06:05 am] joeytsa : gap up: MMM still early though
[06:06 am] joeytsa : gap down: AMZN,SINA,DRI that's all I have for now doji :)
[06:07 am] joeytsa : more gappers popping up, still early
[06:08 am] mh : joey where are you going to find the gap ups and downs?
[06:08 am] joeytsa : watching LO as possible swing
[06:08 am] joeytsa : mh: cnbc ticker, nasdaq site, rttnews.com 'before the bell' link
[06:09 am] joeytsa : mh: also, many platforms have built in scanners...which one do you use?
[06:09 am] mh : td ameritrade think or swim
[06:14 am] mikewd2 -: garyb, you use any of the strategy setups from tradestation on your trading?
[06:16 am] mh : joey are you going to do anything with sina at the open
[06:16 am] garyb : hey mike.....not yet...just getting into it.....what I did was set up everything really nice for my own trading..I love it. But I have not investigated the strategies yet
[06:16 am] joeytsa : i was checking out tradestation yesterday, looks nuts
[06:17 am] Ed : it does have many bells and whistles
[06:21 am] joeytsa : mh: SINA is stuck between its prev cl and S1, gapping down a bit, might watch to see the 1st move and then go from there
[06:22 am] doji : DRI, SINA, AMZN are gap down
[06:23 am] Ed : how is reading coming along richard?
[06:23 am] garyb : I bought me some FAS this morning...already making serious coinage..might be time for lunch for me soon! lol[06:23 am] richard : I finished it last night!!!!!!
[06:23 am] Ed : that's great
[06:23 am] lightning : Doji, DRI, FIO, KNXA , MTL as gap downs
[06:24 am] richard : ready for more :))
[06:24 am] joeytsa : nice wide swing on the ES last night 1245-1262 areas
[06:24 am] doji : Gary you said you bought FAS?
[06:24 am] garyb : yes
[06:25 am] garyb : in the green now doji...a little pre market action
[06:25 am] joeytsa : FIO just got a quick pop
[06:25 am] doji : Hope close to 64.5 Gary
[06:25 am] mikewd2 -: i was just buying FIO joey, funny and it jumped 70 cents on me
[06:27 am] joeytsa : AZO gapping up on earnings, missed that nice run into earnings..not the biggest volume stock though
[06:28 am] garyb : yes doji...64.50
[06:34 am] garyb : IN DRI
[06:34 am] joeytsa : WFM moving up will look for a top
[06:34 am] mhaus : OSG
[06:35 am] joeytsa : MELI made a move
[06:36 am] apple : very nice on MELI
[06:37 am] joeytsa : SINA closed small gap
[06:37 am] joeytsa : nice one Kris
[06:38 am] joeytsa : out MELI l
[06:38 am] joeytsa : watching for a top in MELI or breakout i guess
[06:40 am] garyb : watching MCD!
[06:41 am] apple : SODA
[06:42 am] garyb : MCD may be bouncing here
[06:42 am] joeytsa : s MELI, wont risk much
[06:42 am] mhaus : PPO
[06:43 am] garyb : in MCD with a tight stop
[06:43 am] joeytsa : out half MELI
[06:43 am] lightning : LNG dropping hard
[06:43 am] garyb : go baby go! MCD!
[06:44 am] joeytsa : stopped last half MELI
[06:45 am] derns : TZA
[06:46 am] joeytsa : will watch MELI for next signal, maybe a break to nh[06:46 am] joeytsa : ES testing lows
[06:46 am] mhaus : HAL
[06:47 am] doji : 1/2 out JPM from 33.19, thanks Kris
[06:47 am] joeytsa : FOSL trending down
[06:47 am] joeytsa : NFLX giving it up
[06:47 am] mikewd2 -: LNG
[06:47 am] doji : ONE turning up
[06:48 am] garyb : out MCD...took profits and ran...but I am probably too early as ind. still up
[06:48 am] apple : nice on FOSL
[06:48 am] joeytsa : don't need tops/bottoms garyb[06:49 am] joeytsa : so far come decent support around 1252 on the ES
[06:50 am] doji : out 1/2 JPM
[06:50 am] qwert : Ed thx for inhx[06:50 am] joeytsa : MELI hod[06:50 am] delux : i am stuck in IP long
[06:50 am] joeytsa : stuck?
[06:51 am] delux : no move
[06:51 am] joeytsa : got ya[06:51 am] apple : thx E, nice call on INHX
[06:51 am] lightning : L 1/2 GMCR
[06:52 am] doji : It could drop in the SPY reverses Delux[06:52 am] doji : Weak rebound in the SPY
[06:52 am] joeytsa : taking small profits on MELI
[06:52 am] joeytsa : don't trust this up move
[06:52 am] garyb : lightning..keep on eye on GMCR....tight stop buddy
[06:52 am] apple : BIDU lod[06:53 am] joeytsa : BDU just touched S1 apple
[06:53 am] eyes : Brent you still considering lly[06:53 am] garyb : this is a head fake maybe
[06:54 am] joeytsa : LULU weak
[06:54 am] sfarrill : no head fake on 3m
[06:54 am] doji : Watching HAL
[06:54 am] apple : below S1 on LULU
[06:54 am] Brent : yes eyes, resistance at $39 on LLY. Will watch it at that area
[06:55 am] mikewd2 -: HAL destroyed evidence allegedly on spill
[06:56 am] mikewd2 -: go LNG!!!
[06:57 am] skydiver : DWA - take over chatter
[06:58 am] apple : nice move on LNG mike
[06:59 am] mikewd2 -: out LNG
[06:59 am] joeytsa : GS making moves up$1,down $1, up$1
[07:00 am] joeytsa : i like those moves
[07:00 am] joeytsa : VMC quick move
[07:00 am] mhaus : VMC rumor
[07:00 am] joeytsa : should get toppy soon
[07:01 am] garyb : Watching HAL
[07:01 am] apple : nice move on VMC
[07:02 am] delux : rumor means for short?
[07:02 am] mhaus : rumor means news of takeover rumor
[07:02 am] apple : brcm[07:03 am] delux : thank you all
[07:03 am] doji : VMC moving
[07:04 am] lightning : S LLY
[07:04 am] joeytsa : thanks Mitch
[07:04 am] doji : R2 = 34.61
[07:05 am] delux : i short LLY a bit earlier
[07:05 am] apple : i have 34.60
[07:05 am] doji : Agggh, missed VMC...
[07:06 am] mhaus : LQDT
[07:06 am] joeytsa : i didn't catch the VMC news
[07:07 am] mikewd2 -: Vulcan Materials moves up on renewed takeover chatter
[07:08 am] anthonyb : What happened to JOYG?
[07:08 am] lightning : out rest of GMCR long
[07:08 am] joeytsa : anyone catch any of that AZO move either way?
[07:09 am] eyes : S lly 38.75
[07:10 am] joeytsa : anthony: i don't know, not getting a quote?
[07:10 am] joeytsa : re; JOYG
[07:10 am] anthonyb : nope
[07:10 am] joeytsa : weird
[07:10 am] anthonyb : how about you? do have data on JOYG
[07:11 am] joeytsa : CLF, another one that keeps giving nice profit moves
[07:12 am] apple : joey did you catch that down move on GS - very nice
[07:12 am] joeytsa : no, was switching too much
[07:12 am] lightning : I agree, I closed 1/2 LLY and have a tight stop on the rest
[07:13 am] joeytsa : trust me, that habit will be broken in the next few weeks :)
[07:13 am] neel : Brent what is your stop on LLY?
[07:13 am] lightning : covered 1/2 DWA short
[07:14 am] joeytsa : tighten stop on MELI if short
[07:14 am] Brent : 38.82 on LLY neel[07:15 am] lightning : I'm out rest of LLY
[07:19 am] joeytsa : time lag buying on VMC?
[07:19 am] doji : LQDT still moving up
[07:19 am] joeytsa : nice little bucket drop on VMC :)
[07:20 am] joeytsa : yeah doji: trying to close that gap
[07:20 am] doji : Pivot at 35.06
[07:20 am] apple : i like those pivots, joey and doji - very helpful
[07:21 am] qwert : does anybody use the pivots in esignal?
[07:21 am] joeytsa : they rock, especially when you also use ma's and stochs[07:21 am] anthonyb : yes and I hope it tanks! NFLX
[07:21 am] garyb : I have a really cool Pivot calculator...I should probably use it more! lol[07:21 am] joeytsa : i will be qwert[07:22 am] doji : Window dressing at end of the moth, NFLX should be one to be dumped by MF managers
[07:22 am] joeytsa : gary, just add them as a study on your charts
[07:22 am] apple : i am using them on freestockcharts[07:22 am] garyb : yes..I have that too...shows a dot when there is a pivot
[07:22 am] qwert : joey there are so many options i have not been able to figure out which ones to use
[07:23 am] joeytsa : mine draws lines across the chart
[07:24 am] joeytsa : qwert, i don't have esignal yet, so not sure of the options you are talking about
[07:24 am] lightning : out all DWA short
[07:24 am] lightning : S 1/2 VMC
[07:24 am] apple : we speak up pretty loudly, MK!
[07:25 am] rickdparsons : SPRD not available to borrow on TOS
[07:26 am] joeytsa : SINA/BIDU using S1, break below that with volume could be a nice profit play
[07:26 am] eyes : out .83 lly not acting good
[07:26 am] anthonyb : lots of stuff not able to borrow on TOS. They keep it all to themselves rick
[07:26 am] joeytsa : nice eyes
[07:27 am] doji : SINA 64.2 support
[07:27 am] apple : you are probably right
[07:27 am] joeytsa : SPRD on easy list at lightspeed[07:27 am] anthonyb : little trade management question for anyone inclined to answer...
[07:27 am] joeytsa : yes doji[07:27 am] lightning : covered 1/2 VMC
[07:28 am] doji : Call TDA Rick, I have managed to get a wider range of stocks available for short
[07:28 am] Brent : fire away anthonyb[07:28 am] joeytsa : i don't get too caught up in the exact pivot price
[07:28 am] truck : BIDU
[07:29 am] anthonyb : I'm long SHW on the break above 86.10 and have not taken any profit yet, What do you think. Exit 1/2 or just keep moving stop up under the next price bar
[07:29 am] doji : BIDU S1=132.86
[07:29 am] Brent : if it was my trade, I would take half off
[07:29 am] joeytsa : nice trade anthony[07:30 am] joeytsa : agree with brent[07:30 am] Brent : you could tighten stop on only 1/2 your position too
[07:30 am] anthonyb : here's what i did, I moved a stop of 1/2 to the highest low 3min bar
[07:30 am] joeytsa : how much profit are you willing to give up?
[07:30 am] Brent : and see if it breaks here
[07:31 am] joeytsa : if that makes you comfortable than good area
[07:31 am] doji : You can use your pivot lines to move your stop also..
[07:31 am] joeytsa : you might get a pullback to R1 ( 86.60 area )
[07:32 am] anthonyb : DRIV is approaching a pretty big support area for anyone interested
[07:32 am] joeytsa : indis turning a bit down
[07:33 am] apple : thx ab on DRIV
[07:33 am] joeytsa : anthony: something else to think about, if that trade starts moving like molasses, you might just want to close it and put that money into something moving quicker...just a thought
[07:34 am] eyes : qtm alert
[07:34 am] joeytsa : DRI lod[07:34 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 SHW
[07:35 am] anthonyb : Hey there goes DRIV
[07:35 am] Brent : nice call on SPRD Kris
[07:35 am] qwert : yeah sprd looking good
[07:37 am] electrader : Kris what is your target on SPRD
[07:37 am] anthonyb : JAZZ at major intraday support, could break down
[07:38 am] garyb : mike..too bad I sold MCD.....turned out to be a winner
[07:39 am] delux : I shorted LQDT twice and failed
[07:41 am] delux : what's wrong with my LQDT entries?
[07:42 am] anthonyb : LULU is a lemon
[07:42 am] qwert : dwa still drifting down volume almost gone
[07:45 am] qwert : kris thx for sprd[07:45 am] Ed : great call Mr. Kris
[07:45 am] lightning : stopped on last bit of VMC short.
[07:45 am] apple : nice call on SPRD, K
[07:45 am] qwert : Ed do you still have INHX
[07:46 am] doji : HAL guys
[07:46 am] Ed : all out
[07:46 am] anthonyb : moment of truth for JAZZ
[07:50 am] anthonyb : IB just gave me a new definition of slippage. I hate them thieves.
[07:51 am] doji : I have been with TDA for over a year, all my stops are market orders and never had issues
[07:51 am] anthonyb : That's why my commissions are so cheap, the scum me over with a .12 slippage
[07:51 am] doji : What was the stock?
[07:51 am] apple : wow, ab - that's pretty big
[07:51 am] anthonyb : Price didn't even print there
[07:52 am] garyb : I looked at IB anthony.....but I liked the software of TS better
[07:52 am] garyb : It's the entire package in 1
[07:52 am] lightning : If price didn't print, call and complain. But, as they say, slippage happens
[07:52 am] eyes : how much is ts[07:53 am] garyb : commissions?
[07:53 am] doji : Do you remember when my stop order was not filled and was complaining about that?
[07:53 am] eyes : no don't they charge for platform
[07:53 am] doji : I called TDA and they said it was a problem with the online market maker
[07:53 am] anthonyb : TS has the best charts hands down. But I mysteriously had a 30k debit to my account with them once . they withdrew someone else's fund from my account and took their sweet time refunding me
[07:53 am] doji : and they refunded me back
[07:54 am] anthonyb : not a joke
[07:54 am] garyb : wow..that's quite a mistake anthonyb!
[07:54 am] anthonyb : lol yeah they acted like it was no big deal, happens all the time
[07:55 am] anthonyb : i closed my account
[07:55 am] apple : i would have as well
[07:56 am] anthonyb : I'm having a really good day despite my little .12 slippage. water under the bridge
[07:58 am] snowcat : any thoughts on lqdt?
[07:58 am] electrader : s SPRD 22.80 c 1/2 - 22.57, c 1/4 - 21.87 stopped last 1/4 21.81
[07:59 am] truck : BIDU ,,really dropping
[07:59 am] lightning : FMCN dropping
[08:00 am] qwert : apple our problem is some of the rehearsals don't even start until 9 or 10 at night and run till like 2 am
[08:00 am] lightning : MTL dropping too
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: SINA lod[08:02 am] anthonyb : JAZZ falling nicely, made up my .12 and then some
[08:03 am] mikewd2 -: DRI CEO talking on CNBC
[08:03 am] derns : Can anyone help me understand this: in looking at TNA on a daily chart, it has gapped up for several days, but has a red candle..i.e., opens higher, but closes below gap up. Is there any weakness that can be read into that or is it strength? Opposite for TZA.
[08:04 am] anthonyb : take care everyone, see you all tomorrow.
[08:05 am] Brent : see you tomorrow anthonyb, have a good night
[08:05 am] Ed : take care anthonyb[08:07 am] doji : Did someone sort LQDT?
[08:08 am] doji : short
[08:08 am] electrader : l MAT 10.10 sold 1/2 - 10.21 stopped last 1/2 b/e[08:08 am] mikewd2 -: amersaeed, how you liking trade station?
[08:09 am] lightning : out 1/2 MTL long
[08:19 am] neel : Geithner speaking on CNBC
[08:21 am] derns : Geitner reiterated US has difficult economic challenges
[08:21 am] lightning : duh
[08:21 am] apple : so what is else is new
[08:24 am] qwert : anybody else still in DWA short with me
[08:26 am] lightning : closing rest of MTL long
[08:29 am] mh : i just went long DWA?
[08:29 am] khall : BIDU just broke thru daily S2
[08:31 am] lightning : qwert, I was but I am out DWS short
[08:31 am] lightning : I'm flat and looking
[08:31 am] lightning : REGN getting interesting
[08:31 am] lightning : still has to drop more though
[08:31 am] qwert : still have 1/10th position dwa short
[08:32 am] apple : thx light, REGN does look pretty good
[08:32 am] Ed : nice job qwert[08:34 am] delux : Mitch, buy out rumor makes the stock shot up and then fall down?
[08:36 am] doji : HAR
[08:40 am] observer : SLW slowly, persistently gaining
[08:42 am] derns : Lightening..nice call on REGN...I am trading simulation only, but a great lesson..thx[08:48 am] lightning : derns, I missed REGN :(. I was on the phone with e-signal.
[08:49 am] derns : sorry to hear that...I guess you ended up the same place I did...no $ in our pocket..lol. Interesting it dropped about .96 and rebounded about .60...a fib retracement.
[08:50 am] lightning : I'm looking at it again...I was looking at REGN as a 3-min fade, so I wouldn't have been in...it would have needed to drop another .50 or so for me to trade it.
[08:50 am] lightning : But, derns, your way of trading it would have worked perfectly.
[08:52 am] derns : Lightening..meaning you wanted to see a min 2.5% drop, say 1.42, before fading long?
[08:52 am] lightning : I was looking for it to get to at least 53.50.
[08:55 am] mikewd2 -: go TNA
[08:56 am] mhaus : DRQ
[08:57 am] mikewd2 -: out TNA nice 1.5%
[08:57 am] qwert : nice mike
[08:59 am] eyes : I am loving the video apple
[09:07 am] observer : SLW new hod with silver breaking 32.00 p oz.
[09:09 am] joeytsa : hey, did anyone catch that big % move in AMR?
[09:10 am] joeytsa : looks like metals are rallying a bit
[09:11 am] joeytsa : thanks Ed
[09:14 am] qwert : news on crk?
[09:15 am] joeytsa : thanks for CRK ed..nice quick one
[09:15 am] joeytsa : got out too soon though
[09:16 am] delux : Joeytsa, how do you know to long on CRK? I got the wrong side
[09:16 am] joeytsa : gunslinged a bit, took it at 18.10
[09:17 am] joeytsa : i didn't "know", just tried it with a small loss area
[09:17 am] joeytsa : might get a short here soon though
[09:17 am] joeytsa : plus that 1st move held the 5ma support
[09:17 am] delux : i shorted early and stopped out
[09:18 am] joeytsa : here's the short
[09:18 am] joeytsa : i think...didn't take it though
[09:20 am] joeytsa : delux: remember, no matter how intricate your entry..it's still a guess
[09:20 am] joeytsa : use stops so you don't get hurt if wrong
[09:21 am] joeytsa : SPY basically even on the year..125 area
[09:21 am] delux : thx Joey
[09:22 am] joeytsa : best advice i would say is to know your profit area/stop area before you enter a trade
[09:22 am] joeytsa : trying to decide that once you are in a trade is not fun haha[09:23 am] delux : its hard Joey
[09:23 am] joeytsa : i still screw up
[09:23 am] joeytsa : profit target you can be a little flexible with...stop loss stay strict
[09:24 am] lightning : CRK short just took my lunch money
[09:24 am] rickdparsons : Give me some ideas on how you guys set stop losses...
[09:25 am] joeytsa : rick: you can use %, $, or support/resistance areas
[09:26 am] joeytsa : everyone is different..you have to find out what makes sense to you
[09:27 am] lightning : re-shorted CRK, smaller position
[09:28 am] joeytsa : rick: sadly, i am kind of a sloppy trader..that's my next goal..to become more efficient...
[09:29 am] joeytsa : i use $ in conjunction with s/r, whether it's a moving avg or a pivot....
[09:30 am] joeytsa : I also try to keep a minimum 2:1 reward/risk on a trade..but some happen so fast i get sloppy
[09:30 am] joeytsa : CRk holding some support here
[09:31 am] lightning : yeah, it has to break below 18.50 CRK
[09:32 am] joeytsa : yeah lightning
[09:33 am] lightning : if it does, though, it could be a fast .20
[09:33 am] lightning : (like i know)
[09:33 am] michael : I'm short with you Lightning, I'm at 18.58, stop moved to 18.70
[09:36 am] delux : CRK holding there
[09:36 am] joeytsa : yeah and indis keep getting lower
[09:36 am] delux : stochs going to lower ranges
[09:37 am] joeytsa : 40cent spike on DNDN
[09:38 am] observer : GLD new HOD and strong
[09:38 am] eyes : DNDN alert
[09:39 am] delux : i think CRK short is hopeless
[09:39 am] lightning : Correction: Dendreon sells VICTRELIS royalty interest to CPP for $125M :theflyonthewall.co
[09:39 am] joeytsa : looks like they halted DNDN
[09:39 am] eyes : i agree
[09:40 am] doji : Yes, DNDN halted
[09:40 am] doji : Reason = T2
[09:41 am] doji : T2 = Halt - News ReleasedThe news has begun the dissemination process through a Regulation FD compliant method(s).
[09:41 am] delux : CRK 1 min stochs hook up. is it time to exit?
[09:42 am] doji : Are short or long Delux?
[09:42 am] lightning : CRK: I'm short, have a stop I am comfortable with, and a target I like. I'll let whatever happens happen.
[09:42 am] joeytsa : or just keep a tight stop
[09:43 am] delux : short CRK 18.48
[09:44 am] lightning : watching MBI
[09:44 am] joeytsa : re: CRK...normally this is a stock you wouldn't scalp much due to small adr..so be careful...this is a pretty big move for them today
[09:44 am] doji : Share your number lightning!
[09:45 am] lightning : short CRK at 18.58, stop at .76 and targeting .33.
[09:45 am] doji : It moved a lot today but look like a long swing
[09:45 am] doji : on a pullback
[09:46 am] lightning : on CRK or MBI?
[09:47 am] doji : CRK
[09:48 am] delux : CRK has strong support in 18.50
[09:48 am] delux : area
[09:48 am] doji : you mean 17.5 Delux[09:48 am] lightning : CRK is certainly having a hard to getting below .50, you are right delux[09:49 am] michael : delux, CRK is consolidating here. Kris says they usually continue the move after that, which would be up, that's why the tight stop. If it can break below 18.50, could give some money, so betting on that
[09:50 am] lightning : OK, it's been 24 minutes since I shorted CRK and it has moved sideways. I'm closing out for a few pennies of a gain.
[09:50 am] lightning : (now it will break .50!)
[09:50 am] delux : Michael i short CRK and watching it its interesting to listen from the pros
[09:50 am] michael : LQDT good move up again
[09:50 am] doji : MBI
[09:51 am] joeytsa : nice catch michael
[09:51 am] doji : Any news in MBI guys?
[09:51 am] michael : the pros are in the box above us, we're all trying to get to the big leagues
[09:51 am] doji : It just moved 2.5%
[09:51 am] lightning : no MBI news from flyonthewall[09:52 am] joeytsa : re: CRK, the earlier consolidation areas lasted about 30 minutes then small drop then higher level
[09:52 am] joeytsa : it's a stock that normally doesn't move much though
[09:54 am] joeytsa : it's at res on the daily also
[09:54 am] michael : I'm out CRK, like watching paint dry
[09:54 am] doji : Here it comes
[09:55 am] delux : should i short LQDT? i shorted it twice in the morning and lost
[09:55 am] Ed : i would pass delux[09:55 am] joeytsa : me 2
[09:55 am] doji : I don't see anything in LQDT deluxe
[09:57 am] doji : Every time I look at MBI I think of "pump and dump" trap
[09:57 am] joeytsa : CRK broke out
[09:58 am] delux : Michael, Kris is right CRK moves up after consolidation
[09:58 am] lightning : yeah, I passed on MBI...maybe if had been close to yesterday's high of 11.19, I would have tried.
[09:58 am] doji : If CRK brakes 19, I'd like to short if below 20
[09:58 am] joeytsa : be interesting to see if CRK sets up another consolidation area and move up
[09:58 am] doji : assuming it doesn't brake 20
[09:59 am] joeytsa : yeah doji, 20 is res
[09:59 am] doji : yeah Joey but at some point it will have to give up
[09:59 am] lightning : well, CRK took my lunch money on the first trade, but I made enough on the second to steal two French fries from it.
[09:59 am] joeytsa : it's not a stock i will play either way
[09:59 am] delux : if i know early about Kris' opinion i will exit CRK
[10:00 am] doji : How long have you been trading Delux?
[10:00 am] lightning : joey, because of the ATR?
[10:01 am] delux : a few weeks
[10:01 am] joeytsa : yes lightning
[10:01 am] delux : in simulation Doji[10:01 am] doji : Well, if you want to learn, try papertrade first for at least 3 months
[10:01 am] doji : ok that is good Delux[10:01 am] doji : very good
[10:01 am] lightning : joey, what's your "rule" for ATR? At least some number?
[10:02 am] doji : He is using his calculator lightning
[10:02 am] joeytsa : unless it's a breaking news play/rumor etc...i need a stock that has multiple dollar daily moves...
[10:03 am] delux : but i am still struggling with entry / exit signals and worse is jumping into the wrong side
[10:03 am] joeytsa : maybe it's me, but i have problems trying to scalp a stock that only moves 50cents a day
[10:03 am] lightning : thanks Joey.
[10:03 am] joeytsa : which is why normally i avoid low priced stocks
[10:03 am] victor51 : DNDN selling royalty interest for 120 million
[10:03 am] doji : Hey, what is ATR?
[10:04 am] lightning : maybe the idea for ATR is that it be greater than a certain percentage of the price (like 4-5%)
[10:04 am] lightning : ATR = Average True Range
[10:04 am] joeytsa : ATR : average true range i believe, i use ADR: average daily range
[10:04 am] joeytsa : not sure of the different actually
[10:04 am] doji : For me the rule is simply: don't trade any stocks unless it has moved at least 3% on either direction
[10:05 am] lightning : ATR = ADR if you are looking at a daily chart. ATR can also be used in intraday charts
[10:05 am] doji : then I look for S/R levels and calculate the potential retracement (38%, 50% and 62%)
[10:05 am] Brent : DNDN resumed
[10:05 am] joeytsa : thanks brent[10:06 am] doji : No yet for me, need to move more
[10:07 am] doji : That's all in DNDN
[10:08 am] chinhngo : long or short dndn please?
[10:10 am] doji : none
[10:11 am] Ed : no trade in here chinhngo right now
[10:19 am] rickdparsons : what is "small buy program"?
[10:21 am] khall : a small run of buyers in the market - drives it up
[10:23 am] joeytsa : Cramer is saying a big down move is coming..not here yet
[10:25 am] lightning : just because Cramer is wrong 90% of the time doesn't mean he is wrong this time.
[10:25 am] doji : These are the 10 stocks that will be most probably dumped by the MF managers for the end of the year windows dressing: ANR, AIG, BAC, CSC, FSLR, JNS, WFR, MWW, NFLX, X
[10:25 am] joeytsa : AGQ hod[10:25 am] derns : Joey..why do the shorts need to be cleaned out? Is he suggesting this is a short covering rally?
[10:26 am] joeytsa : i think he is meaning with no 'shorts', there won't be anyone to buy
[10:26 am] derns : hmmm...I remain perplexed by this run up over the past week
[10:27 am] lightning : nice move by CSTR here
[10:27 am] joeytsa : won't be anyone to break the fall?
[10:29 am] joeytsa : derns: on thestreet website, the article is called "Cramer: A Colossal Market Hiccup is Coming"
[10:29 am] joeytsa : i saw it on facebook haha[10:29 am] joeytsa : cramer is one of my 'likes' haha[10:33 am] joeytsa : if AMZN breaks S2, might get a nice move down
[10:34 am] lightning : there you go, joey. AMZN looks under S2 to me.
[10:34 am] joeytsa : i see that, be nice to see a slight up move to s2 and then break down
[10:47 am] joeytsa : lost patience with AMZN, taking a break, keep eye on it
[10:50 am] doji : NFLX S
[10:53 am] delux : is SPY consolidating here? move up or down?
[10:54 am] delux : Doji, as an experienced trader, how can you short NFLX when all stochs are flat at the bottom?
[10:57 am] Brent : it's a different strategy delux, not all strategies use stochastics as a determining factor
[10:58 am] Brent : more of a play on weakness and break of support
[10:58 am] derns : doji's strategy seems to be working
[10:58 am] delux : oh i see. i just watched DVDs and trying to trade like that
[10:58 am] Brent : that's good delux. It's good to focus and master one strategy, then add more with experience
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: MOS continues to move up
[10:59 am] derns : doji...if I don't mind me asking, what was your entry, expected target and stop? Trailing or fixed stop?
[11:00 am] delux : and i am trying to find out correlation of SPY and other stocks
[11:00 am] doji : On any specific stock?
[11:00 am] derns : Your short on NFLX
[11:03 am] doji : Support above 68 was broken and I enter my trade right below 68
[11:04 am] doji : My stop is above 68 obviously
[11:04 am] doji : 68.2/68.3 is now resistance
[11:05 am] doji : If I get 1% in NFLX that will be OK, that is the most you can expect at this time of the day
[11:09 am] mikewd2 -: out of MOS 53
[11:10 am] mikewd2 -: buying back LRN from early sell at 28
[11:13 am] delux : Kris listed some stocks for long and short before the market hour but no call during the day. is it for trade ourselves?
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: CNBC discussing that AMR stock is worthless, yet up 70% today.
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: delux: those are stocks he is watching, they may not pan out
[11:14 am] apple : lol, wait until tomorrow
[11:14 am] delux : thx mike
[11:15 am] lightning : delux, generally Kris' pre-market ideas are stocks he is looking at for a breakout or breakdown strategy; or stocks he is looking at for a gap trading strategy. Neither of them are covered in the DVDs
[11:15 am] delux : SPY break out
[11:17 am] delux : thx lighting, then where can i find those strategies beyond the DVDs?
[11:17 am] delux : NFLX wild Doji[11:17 am] apple : there goes NFLX
[11:17 am] derns : doji...you still short NFLX?
[11:17 am] derns : or is that you shorting an additional 750k?
[11:18 am] delux : what happen to NFLX?
[11:20 am] derns : CNBC...further drop in housing prices across nation.
[11:20 am] lightning : delux, TSA had a webinar series in September where they covered those. Perhaps you can contact service@tradestocksamerica.com to find out how to access archives of them. (Note -- the webinars were an extra expense.)
[11:21 am] Ed : verizon to compete with nflx[11:21 am] mikewd2 -: nice job on NFLX short doji.
[11:21 am] Ed : being reported, doji had the news 1st
[11:22 am] delux : thx for info lightning. i'll contact but i can't afford expensive courses
[11:22 am] mikewd2 -: Netflix falls after Reuters reports Verizon planning competing product
[11:23 am] lightning : delux, you WILL be able to afford it once you have mastered your first strategy.
[11:24 am] lightning : we all start with working to get good at just one.
[11:24 am] doji : My close order in NFLX was filled up at 66.94...
[11:24 am] delux : which one first?
[11:25 am] derns : impressive doji[11:26 am] lightning : you have the DVDs, right? I'd focus on that first. Then one called 3-minute fade (it's a webinar); then gaps and breakouts (webinars). Just my two cents, but Brent/Ed/Mitch may have a different opinion
[11:28 am] delux : thx lightning, i am a beginner who don't understand jargons beyond basics
[11:29 am] lightning : delux, you'll get there. Don't hesitate to ask questions here.
[11:32 am] delux : why we watch SPY? to do something with it?
[11:33 am] Brent : just for a picture of overall short term market direction delux[11:33 am] Brent : I don't trade it, just watch it
[11:33 am] eyes : brent on what time frame do you keep SPY
[11:34 am] delux : do you mean other stocks move with SPY?
[11:34 am] Brent : primarily 1,3, and 15 eyes
[11:34 am] doji : Ok fellas I have to go home or the traffic in Rio will kill me
[11:35 am] Ed : take care +
[11:35 am] chinhngo : i am sell put of vxx buy put of fas and buy call of faz is that ok please give me your advice ?
[11:36 am] dan : INHX is moving toward the high of the day
[11:36 am] delux : Doji made a good profit on NFLX
[11:38 am] delux : SPY hod[11:39 am] joeytsa : even Tom Demark is calling a 1330-1040 ES level by 12/21..then collapse
[11:40 am] delux : SPY is moving up so what can i trade now?
[11:40 am] mikewd2 -: go TNA
[11:40 am] Ed : chinhngo options are already leveraged, so to play the options on leveraged etf's is increasing the potential for gain and even quicker chance of loss
[11:42 am] mikewd2 -: out TNA 47.10, nice quick profit
[11:42 am] Ed : so I would pass chinhngo[11:42 am] joeytsa : nice mike
[11:42 am] delux : i entered late TNA
[11:43 am] khall : story on NFLX that Verizon planning to launch a video streaming service similar to NFLX
[11:43 am] khall : thus the drop
[11:43 am] garyb : Hi all ...I am back in time to see all the profit in MCD! Gotta love the Big Mac! :) congrats Mike on your TNA
[11:44 am] mikewd2 -: delux i entered 46.57
[11:44 am] mikewd2 -: be careful getting in too late on these jumps
[11:44 am] Ed : chinhngo how do u have ur charts set up now?
[11:45 am] Ed : 1min timeframe, 2min,3min,etc
[11:46 am] chinhngo : this is advice from another analyst
[11:46 am] mikewd2 -: definitely got out of MOS to early
[11:46 am] chinhngo : they bet market go down
[11:46 am] chinhngo : or even crash
[11:47 am] chinhngo : billionaire Soros bet short euro
[11:47 am] apple : nice trend on MOS
[11:47 am] joeytsa : i think he will be correct in the long run
[11:48 am] joeytsa : might get a big move in the FXE with the meeting this week
[11:50 am] Ed : "markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent"
[11:50 am] joeytsa : heck yeah
[11:50 am] observer : well said, Ed
[11:50 am] joeytsa : that's why i try not to guess direction
[11:50 am] Mitch K: oh i like that comment Ed, is that your own quote?
[11:50 am] Mitch K: seriously, that's good
[11:50 am] Ed : I wish
[11:50 am] Mitch K: i could have used that around 1994-95
[11:51 am] delux : i longed TNA late and barely survive
[11:52 am] delux : oh i exit early
[11:52 am] Ed : John Maynard Keynes
[11:52 am] Mitch K: Keynesian theory?
[11:52 am] garyb : watching for long in FAZ
[11:53 am] Ed : that's him
[11:53 am] Mitch K: i got one for you Ed......
[11:53 am] Mitch K: Big egos make small balances
[11:54 am] Ed : i like that, who is that by
[11:54 am] lightning : watching CSTR for possible short...
[11:54 am] Brent : Mrs. King
[11:54 am] Mitch K: lol, you dog brent[11:54 am] Ed : lol[11:54 am] joeytsa : " Amateurs want to be right...professionals want to make money "
[11:55 am] Mitch K: good one joey, but the goal was to have fewer words like Confucius
[11:55 am] joeytsa : ok..
[11:55 am] chinhngo : what is the news ?
[11:55 am] joeytsa : "stock go up..buy"
[11:56 am] Mitch K: lol, good one
[11:56 am] Ed : lol[11:56 am] bopphaley : Pros Knows - Ams Tramps
[11:57 am] eyes : you s Lightning
[11:57 am] derns : anyone..does a 3 min fade long for TZA appealing?
[11:57 am] lightning : nope eyes. I couldn't get shares of CSTR at Lightspeed to short
[11:57 am] chinhngo : but sp500 cannot break 1265 ema 200
[11:59 am] delux : Derns, is the pattern on TZA 3 min fade?
[11:59 am] lightning : good thing..I probably would have stopped eyes
[11:59 am] eyes : ya pretty strong
[11:59 am] electrader : Joey there are 4000 shares available to short at LS
[12:00 pm] electrader : actually just got a message that there are 8k
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : on which stock elec[12:00 pm] electrader : CSTR
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : I'm not playing it
[12:01 pm] derns : delux...I would certainly defer to Brent and others, but it looks close...should have a 3% drop first...plus min 3 x 3 min red candles followed by a green candle
[12:01 pm] lightning : really, electrader? I got the "Short not permission" message.
[12:01 pm] garyb : FAZ L: 38.21
[12:01 pm] lightning : It's OK that I didn't short CSTR
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : it's on the H list, but that doesn't mean you can't short it
[12:02 pm] apple : CSTR still moving on up
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : smart plan Kris
[12:03 pm] eyes : I am done for the day good night to all
[12:03 pm] electrader : lightning you can email LS @ shorts@lightspeed.com and request shares to short. leave your User ID
[12:03 pm] Ed : see ya eyes
[12:03 pm] electrader : they will send you a message if it's available
[12:05 pm] kittel1 : I just got short position on SPY. Is it good thing to do?
[12:07 pm] delux : Kittel1, Kris posted SPY will consolidate and move up
[12:07 pm] michael : it might work out Kittel1, but I wouldn't do it until you're sure it's turning over, and even then probably gonna need to be quick
[12:13 pm] joeytsa : 1265 area has been decent res on the ES
[12:13 pm] joeytsa : a break with some vol could make the markets run
[12:14 pm] michael : my IRA would like to see that Joey
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : CF hod[12:14 pm] delux : SPY hod again
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : might get it
[12:16 pm] delux : Kittel1 i think you should stop out
[12:17 pm] kittel1 : whats ES?
[12:17 pm] joeytsa : ES= s&p emini[12:17 pm] Mitch K: S&P Mini futures
[12:20 pm] joeytsa : crude holding 101 so far
[12:21 pm] lightning : Joey, do you trade crude after the NY closes? I stop at 2:30 eastern.
[12:21 pm] joeytsa : no..was just looking at it
[12:21 pm] lightning : ok, i was thinking the volume would be problematic (or the lack of volume)
[12:22 pm] joeytsa : probably so
[12:22 pm] chinhngo : anyway sp500 cannot hold over 1265 so may be just a fade bull
[12:23 pm] lightning : LULU alert
[12:23 pm] lightning : oops, that isn't such a big move on LULU, sorry
[12:27 pm] delux : hey Kittle1 your SPY short looks good
[12:28 pm] garyb : wow..big drop in the market
[12:29 pm] joeytsa : gotta keep an eye on that 1265 area
[12:29 pm] garyb : I see bearish patterns overall
[12:31 pm] mikewd2 -: you still have some TNA garyb? I'm down to 1k left
[12:32 pm] mikewd2 -: but sold covered dec calls on those
[12:32 pm] joeytsa : nice way to bring in some cash
[12:32 pm] joeytsa : i did a lot of cc's at one time
[12:32 pm] garyb : I sold a bunch Mike....made some great profit......but I see some bearish patterns in the market......looking at TZA
[12:32 pm] joeytsa : got away from that for some reason
[12:33 pm] joeytsa : SPY yearly, this area has been big support and res
[12:34 pm] garyb : I can't get the VIX on my Charts....does anyone know the symbol? I tried $VIX ^VIX....does anyone know?
[12:34 pm] derns : Long TZA from 26.51...any comments on a swing trade here?
[12:35 pm] garyb : I'm in derns[12:35 pm] delux : when Ed called CRK, i thought it was for short, but smart people went long and made profit. what did i miss there?
[12:35 pm] khall : vxx[12:35 pm] derns : Garyb...I have used $VIX on esignal. currently 27.43
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : i use $VIX on schwab charts
[12:36 pm] apple : same on etrade[12:36 pm] garyb : mmmm trying it on ts platform and not working
[12:37 pm] khall : you tried vxx as well?
[12:37 pm] garyb : i tried it khall but that is the Proshares ETF
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : it's actually an etn[12:38 pm] khall : yes
[12:38 pm] khall : it's what I usually trade
[12:38 pm] garyb : ahh yes..thanks joey
[12:39 pm] mikewd2 -: are you in vxx, garyb?
[12:39 pm] monster : anyone have answer for delux's question regarding CRK. i thought he meant short also
[12:39 pm] garyb : no vxx now mike
[12:39 pm] garyb : I'm in TZA though
[12:39 pm] joeytsa : gary...try $VIX.X
[12:40 pm] derns : Garyb...are you going to swing TZA?
[12:40 pm] garyb : Thanks Joey..still not working...I will try some Googling on this...yes derns I will swing TZA
[12:40 pm] michael : monster, delux, we were trying to short it but it was strong and kept going higher after consolidations
[12:40 pm] mikewd2 -: i saw where Ed said watching CRK and then Mitch said it was trending up.
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : i gunslinged that one long actually
[12:41 pm] mikewd2 -: never saw a short CRK
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : got out wayyyy too early
[12:41 pm] derns : Garyb...you said you saw bearish signs all over..how long do you plan on holding TZA? daily assessment?
[12:41 pm] mikewd2 -: i went long 18.60 sold 19.00
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : i think the original thought was for it to be shorted
[12:42 pm] joeytsa : i got in at 18.10
[12:42 pm] joeytsa : got out after 30cent profit
[12:42 pm] lightning : Time to run. Thanks TSA and everyone. Green day today. See you tomorrow.
[12:42 pm] garyb : I am reading the daily and 15 min charts of TZA SPX VIX
[12:43 pm] garyb : I see a pullback ...but that's just my opinion Derns[12:43 pm] apple : thx MK, K, B and E and everyone. All have a great evening. See you tomorrow.
[12:43 pm] monster : the post between ED and Mitch was like an hour later
[12:43 pm] derns : Garyb...I was studying the daily on both TZA and TNA...I agree with your pullback assessment
[12:44 pm] delux : thx guys, a bit of luck. i shorted twice CRK coz i thought my first one was early but second one also stopped out too
[12:45 pm] mikewd2 -: delux, you made money on TNA right?
[12:45 pm] garyb : Derns.....we may see a pullback and TZA may hit the 30 mark and go down again...looking to make some on the pullback
[12:45 pm] delux : yes mike but small coz i entered late
[12:46 pm] derns : thx...I hope it runs over 30!
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah, that was a fast one
[12:46 pm] delux : i didn't know what to do when SPY hod was posted
[12:46 pm] garyb : me too derns! Are you in TZA?
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: remember you don't have to trade, watch and learn..[12:47 pm] garyb : I trade and then learn! lol[12:47 pm] mikewd2 -: also, we mostly watch in the afternoon - we are more aggressive for first 90 minutes of the day
[12:47 pm] mikewd2 -: i do to garyb,
[12:47 pm] derns : Yes...in TZA. Actually, I have thot for a while we would have a pull back, but have been listening to MK's commentary. From a fundamental perspective, I see a pullback, but this is a world of technical's that I am still struggling to understand
[12:47 pm] mikewd2 -: delux, what trading platform are you on?
[12:48 pm] delux : ninjatrader[12:48 pm] garyb : actually all kidding aside......in my opinion the only way to learn IS to trade mike.....because by trading you actually have to learn to control your emotions
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: good
[12:48 pm] joeytsa : i agree gary
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: i'm on etrade but changing to tradestation[12:49 pm] garyb : IMO the biggest challenge is my head! Panicking or getting to excited! Have tried to maintain control for the last 5 months
[12:49 pm] delux : i am attended ninja webinars but not very skillful on that
[12:50 pm] mikewd2 -: what is your stop on TZA gary
[12:50 pm] garyb : I try to trade like a computer now
[12:50 pm] joeytsa : amen gary...i still get like that
[12:50 pm] joeytsa : biggest problem is after a few losers in a row
[12:51 pm] garyb : yeh joey...sometimes I just go for a break...get some sunshine...or some moonshine and come back later!
[12:51 pm] joeytsa : i take 2 long breaks each day regardless
[12:51 pm] delux : Garyb, i am trying to trade like a pro. i was wondering you guys in the room could make money for a living by trading
[12:51 pm] delux : ? may be a dumb question
[12:52 pm] garyb : derns look at TZA buddy!
[12:53 pm] mikewd2 -: i'm long on TZA now, garyb what is your stop lost?
[12:53 pm] derns : I'm watching it...I actually think it will close above 26.99...
[12:53 pm] garyb : one sec...I will look
[12:53 pm] mikewd2 -: you are going to swing it right?
[12:53 pm] Kris : take care apple. see you tomorrow.
[12:53 pm] Ed : see ya apple
[12:54 pm] garyb : yes....I will swing TZA..I think the market will pull back...IMO
[12:54 pm] joeytsa : just be careful i heard the EU is making a plan to plan a plan to save europe :)
[12:54 pm] mikewd2 -: i went in at 26.70
[12:55 pm] derns : Joey...I think you left a few of the plans to make the plans...which, of course, will be reviewed, discussed, submitted, etc before another plan is made
[12:55 pm] joeytsa : haha[12:55 pm] mikewd2 -: there goes TZA
[12:56 pm] garyb : we should all be GREEN now! :) on TZA
[12:56 pm] derns : TZA closed at 26.98 yesterday...I think people want to watching this closely for a pop
[01:01 pm] qwert : goodnight everybody great day see ya in the am
[01:01 pm] rickdparsons : the dvds show 14,3,3 stoch...
[01:01 pm] delux : end of day selling occurs every day?
[01:01 pm] rickdparsons : but this room shows 10-8-7
[01:02 pm] joeytsa : they changed rick
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: i don't use 14, 3,3 anymore rick
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: not everyday delux[01:02 pm] rickdparsons : what MACD do we use then?
[01:03 pm] delux : Mitch, if you have time SPY chart is good for long?
[01:03 pm] Mitch K: 12 26 9 is default
[01:03 pm] Mitch K: yes delux[01:04 pm] delux : thx Mitch, i made wrong entries today. learn a bunch of lessons
[01:05 pm] Mitch K: try to observe first delux, don't trade these ideas until you get a feel how we are trading them
[01:05 pm] Mitch K: will save you a lot of money and frustration
[01:05 pm] Mitch K: won't take you long
[01:05 pm] Mitch K: is this the Parsons that is CEO of Time Warner?
[01:05 pm] delux : yeah lightning told me about the webinar. when will a new one come?
[01:06 pm] Mitch K: not sure delux, seminar is next, at the earliest would be late Spring in Portland, Oregon. i am guessing but that's what we are thinking, not planning yet
[01:08 pm] delux : Mitch, seminar might be pricey. webinar is more affordable for me frankly
[01:10 pm] delux : good night thx for your help
[01:11 pm] joeytsa : thanks Mitch...have a great night everyone
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