Chat Highlights From 12/05/2011

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:21 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:21 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:22 am] Kris : on the long side I'm watching MAT, PGN, SHW, REGN and NAT.
[06:22 am] Kris : this morning I'm watching for possible short trades in HSP, DNKN, BRCM, TLEO, AGO, RBS and ETR
[06:26 am] Brent : good morning
[06:28 am] Mitch K: watching AFFY for short early after mkt opens
[06:29 am] Mitch K: monitoring TLEO for possible short but probably won't move as much as AFFY
[06:30 am] Mitch K: STJ spiking up this morning and monitoring for short
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching STJ today after Friday
[06:31 am] Kris : AGO short
[06:32 am] Kris : BRCM short half
[06:32 am] Kris : NEM short
[06:32 am] Kris : NFLX short half
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching CNQR for short
[06:33 am] Kris : MOS short half
[06:35 am] Kris : JOYG short half
[06:35 am] Kris : out half NFLX short
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching for short in CTXS soon
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching INHX for quick short
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching IVN for short soon
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching POT for bottom to buy
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching QCOM for bounce soon
[06:37 am] Kris : looking for new lod in NEM
[06:37 am] Mitch K: consider covering half of AFFY short
[06:37 am] Mitch K: consider very small long in VHC
[06:37 am] Mitch K: that's 1 min chart on CNQR on right now
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching CNQR for short here soon
[06:38 am] Kris : SPY trying for new lod[06:38 am] Mitch K: monitoring IMAX for short
[06:38 am] Mitch K: think in terms of multiple trades in CNQR
[06:39 am] Kris : NFLX could find some support around 65.00
[06:39 am] Kris : out half MOS short
[06:39 am] Mitch K: AFFY, consider covering
[06:39 am] Mitch K: monitor AFFY for 2nd helping on rebound, maybe 6.45 area
[06:40 am] Kris : out half AGO short
[06:40 am] Kris : out half JOYG short
[06:40 am] Mitch K: still monitoring POT, QCOM for long, JOYG also,
[06:41 am] Mitch K: if you went for that quick short in INHX, good place to cover
[06:41 am] Mitch K: SP pulling back a little but buy on dip pattern is likely
[06:43 am] Mitch K: MOS bouncing too, same category as POT
[06:43 am] Mitch K: POT bottoming
[06:43 am] Mitch K: surprised IVN hasn't turned over yet, red flag for this short idea
[06:44 am] Mitch K: CNQR bouncing, cover short, look for 2nd helping later, maybe 54 area
[06:44 am] Mitch K: monitoring DVN for bounce
[06:45 am] Mitch K: also watching for 2nd helping short on COG, missed first
[06:45 am] Mitch K: argh, missed MDT short, forgot about it, monitor for later
[06:47 am] Mitch K: IMAX too strong to short, lost interest in IVN too
[06:48 am] Kris : out half BRCM short
[06:48 am] Mitch K: always watching LVS when you see WYNN move
[06:48 am] Mitch K: WYNN bouncing here,
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching KMX for short
[06:51 am] Mitch K: don't forget to monitor AFFY for 2nd helping short on top of this bounce, preferably around 6.50+
[06:51 am] Mitch K: LVS stronger than WYNN
[06:52 am] Kris : SPY hanging around near the lows
[06:52 am] Mitch K: looking for bounce in DVN
[06:54 am] Mitch K: WYNN and LVS bounces fizzling
[06:57 am] Brent : SPY approaching hod[07:01 am] Mitch K: don't wait for us to tell you when to close a position, or open one either,
[07:01 am] Mitch K: see what i meant by 2nd helping short on CNQR, or multiple trades
[07:02 am] Mitch K: when see a very bullish move, bigger move, you tend to see buyers come in after a smaller drop, especially on bigger name stock. so you take bits and pieces of profits if you can manage multiple stock positions
[07:03 am] Mitch K: LVS higher high
[07:04 am] Mitch K: shoot, forgot about Angle's List. I wrote her off earlier but forgot to monitor. All part of managing ideas, real estate on your screens
[07:05 am] Mitch K: CNQR more downside likely
[07:05 am] Mitch K: LVS prob turning over here
[07:06 am] Mitch K: never can get in sync with SWC, anyone understand that stock?
[07:07 am] Mitch K: AFFY worth 1/3rd short position again,
[07:07 am] Mitch K: watching NFLX
[07:12 am] Ed : monitor CTSH around 71.39 be flexible
[07:13 am] Ed : strong so far
[07:14 am] Mitch K: looking for lower on CNQR
[07:15 am] Mitch K: $50 would not be surprising for CNQR, hard to tell
[07:17 am] Mitch K: anyone long VHC? hard to handle VHC volatility with very low float
[07:18 am] Brent : watching WPRT for a bounce, a little late to see
[07:19 am] Mitch K: CNQR broke below $51
[07:24 am] Mitch K: consider selling VHC
[07:25 am] Mitch K: watching JOYG for short on this bounce here
[07:26 am] Mitch K: consider selling JOYG if long
[07:28 am] Mitch K: all you need is one CNQR a day, maybe two
[07:32 am] Ed : watching MELI
[07:36 am] Mitch K: don't see $50 now on CNQR
[07:39 am] Mitch K: LULU new low
[07:42 am] Mitch K: new low on ITC, watch that closer now
[07:50 am] Ed : TIE alert thx rusty
[08:04 am] Ed : consider reducing MELI if u got shares short
[08:22 am] Mitch K: Rumor: Illumina moves up on renewed takeover chatter
[08:57 am] Brent : ILMN at hod[09:33 am] Mitch K: buyout rumors are more advanced trading technique
[09:34 am] Mitch K: it's easy to sell short too early a buyout rumor
[09:48 am] Ed : hod[09:48 am] Ed : NFLX nod
[09:53 am] Mitch K: probably good place to cover ILMN if short
[09:55 am] Brent : SPY new hod[09:55 am] Mitch K: biggest move in NFLX in over a month
[09:55 am] Mitch K: up that is
[10:27 am] Ed : TLEO hod[10:39 am] Ed : be back in 30
[10:43 am] Brent : SPY approaching lod[11:06 am] Ed : back
[11:27 am] Mitch K: hard to tell if the SP downgrade of Europe will hurt us. I think everyone is used to that news
[12:07 pm] Ed : watching VRSK would like more selling
[12:09 pm] Ed : pass VRSK not enough selling
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: later guys & girls
[12:59 pm] Ed : have a great night
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a great night, see you in the morning

[06:19 am] doji : Hi Joey... any idea about RIMM? Has support at 16 and as you said before, it could still move upwards, especially now the futures are big up
[06:19 am] joeytsa : Mitch: on friday you asked us to remind you about VHC
[06:20 am] joeytsa : doji: daytrade/swing?
[06:21 am] doji : daytrading Joey
[06:21 am] joeytsa : might get a pop, not sure
[06:22 am] doji : VHC moved Friday from 19.6 to 22.16... it could move to 24 today
[06:27 am] doji : Your TNA positions are doing great Gary
[06:28 am] garyb : yes doji..going good! :)
[06:28 am] mikewd2 -: looks like oil services are finally moving up, like WFT, etc[06:29 am] rusty : France President Sarkozy: Complete agreement with Germany has been reached, to disclose details in letter to EU President Van Rompouy[06:33 am] joeytsa : AMZN falling
[06:34 am] doji : AFFY S 6.46 from the open
[06:35 am] rickdparsons : New here. Does "half" mean enter into half your normal position?
[06:35 am] joeytsa : yeah rick
[06:35 am] apple : yes rick
[06:36 am] joeytsa : AMZN closed gap
[06:36 am] mikewd2 -: JEF
[06:37 am] joeytsa : TLEO was upgraded premarket, gapped and just made a double top? will watch
[06:38 am] joeytsa : CF weak, look for some bounce to short into
[06:39 am] joeytsa : GS strong off the gap up
[06:40 am] joeytsa : ULTA looks weak
[06:40 am] mikewd2 -: all financials doing well
[06:41 am] joeytsa : yeah mike, markets need that
[06:42 am] joeytsa : tighten stop if you took CF short
[06:42 am] apple : MK, CNQR very nice
[06:43 am] joeytsa : great call on CNQR !!!!
[06:45 am] mikewd2 -: TNA L 46.17
[06:46 am] joeytsa : gold stocks with a little life
[06:46 am] joeytsa : ABX,GG,NEM all look ok for now
[06:47 am] mikewd2 -: out JEF 13.21
[06:47 am] joeytsa : watching KMX
[06:49 am] derns : Joey..KMX looks interesting for 3 min fade short, correct?
[06:50 am] joeytsa : could be derns[06:50 am] mikewd2 -: i think so derns[06:50 am] joeytsa : i was actually just following the 1m
[06:50 am] joeytsa : but looks good on the 2m and 3m
[06:51 am] doji : out 1/2 AFFY long
[06:52 am] derns : GMCR
[06:52 am] mikewd2 -: out TNA 46.47
[06:53 am] doji : GMCR
[06:53 am] observer : SLW new hod[06:53 am] truck : KMX ,,,strong !
[06:53 am] joeytsa : yeah it is truck
[06:53 am] rusty : NDX Changes effective TONIGHT JOYG Delete- 1.6mm shares to sell
[06:54 am] rusty : PRGO Add - 1.4M shares to buy
[06:54 am] Mitch K: thanks rusty
[06:56 am] doji : SPY approaching hod[06:57 am] joeytsa : needs a strong push to bust thru 1263 area
[06:57 am] joeytsa : on the ES
[06:58 am] lightning : watching CRM for possible short
[06:59 am] joeytsa : me 2 lightning, but it's been strong so far
[07:00 am] joeytsa : ag stocks all look the same
[07:00 am] doji : ISM results?
[07:01 am] joeytsa : factory orders down .4?
[07:01 am] joeytsa : tighten/trail stop on KMX short
[07:01 am] storage : Mitch nice call 2nd short CNQR
[07:02 am] joeytsa : really nice mitch[07:03 am] joeytsa : lower high on CNQR was a nice short area
[07:03 am] scalpman : AFFY nearing 6.50
[07:03 am] doji : AFFY held when the SPY reversed
[07:04 am] lightning : covering 1/2 KMS short here at VWAP
[07:04 am] truck : trying to cover half @ 30.80,KMX
[07:04 am] mikewd2 -: KMX should give up some more
[07:06 am] doji : Anyone in AFFY S here?
[07:08 am] doji : VHC approaching hod[07:09 am] garyb : Watching MRK
[07:09 am] lightning : stopped on rest of KMX short for decent gain.
[07:10 am] garyb : MRK looking good on 2 min
[07:10 am] doji : CNQR was an excellent call, still weak
[07:10 am] garyb : in MRK 35.32 tight stop
[07:11 am] doji : 50% retracement should be around 51
[07:11 am] rusty : AMZN radar
[07:11 am] doji : RIMM closing the gap
[07:11 am] rusty : AMZN fast move up
[07:12 am] doji : SPY new hod[07:12 am] garyb : Watch KFT
[07:13 am] garyb : KFT looking good on 2 min
[07:13 am] joeytsa : GOOG going for 630
[07:13 am] doji : R3 is at 71.64 Ed
[07:13 am] doji : RIMM moving with volume
[07:13 am] derns : RIMM
[07:14 am] joeytsa : CRM might have run out of steam ?
[07:14 am] Ed : it's never exact,
[07:14 am] garyb : in KFT 36.44
[07:15 am] garyb : nice profits in my MRK!
[07:15 am] doji : I know Ed, just posting as reference
[07:16 am] joeytsa : doji: what's your charting service?
[07:16 am] garyb : beautiful bounce in MRK, wow
[07:18 am] khall : I'm long VHC
[07:18 am] joeytsa : i stayed out mitch[07:19 am] rickdparsons : Question: do you guys ever trade options in place of the stocks?
[07:19 am] garyb : still holding MRK....textbook V pattern! nice
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: i have rick on puts, when i can't get shares of a stock
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: or on swing trade ideas from DSR
[07:20 am] doji : TOS Joey
[07:21 am] rickdparsons : what is "DSR" ?
[07:21 am] joeytsa : Daily Stock Report
[07:21 am] doji : Is your R3 in CTSH at 71.64?
[07:22 am] doji : CTQR long
[07:22 am] joeytsa : i don't have R3/S3 on my schwab..have to wait until i get esignal[07:22 am] doji : CNQR sorry
[07:22 am] victor51 : Mitch Nice call but missed cnqr.
[07:22 am] doji : My stop is below R3 in CNQR
[07:22 am] rickdparsons : what is "R3"?
[07:22 am] doji : Resistance line on Pivot
[07:23 am] doji : You have the pivot line and the you have the support and resistance levels from there
[07:23 am] rusty : SOHU hod[07:23 am] observer : MK, that SWC seems to have a pretty high Beta
[07:24 am] rickdparsons : Thanks, Doji...I have TOS...dos TOS have that?
[07:24 am] doji : YEs Rick
[07:24 am] doji : It's called PivotPoints[07:24 am] joeytsa : 10yr Italian yields drop to 6.14%
[07:25 am] rickdparsons : thanks, doji...found it!
[07:27 am] observer : new hod, SLW
[07:29 am] joeytsa : Mitch: one of those a week can make you 6 figures :)
[07:31 am] lightning : lol, if one can only pick only winners like CNQR!
[07:31 am] rusty : FFIV hod[07:35 am] anthonyb : TCBI broke out in huge order, blew right through my buy limit order without me lol[07:39 am] skydiver : Good morning - in stealth mode today - didn't sleep well last nite, but 4 trades all winners so far :)
[07:40 am] doji : RIMM reversing
[07:41 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on KMX
[07:43 am] rusty : WFM worth watching for a short swing at these levels
[07:44 am] rusty : no rush
[07:48 am] rusty : TIE alert
[07:48 am] rusty : sudden volume spike
[07:49 am] eyes : tie chatter
[07:49 am] doji : What scanner do you use Rusty?
[07:49 am] skydiver : TIE - Take over chatter
[07:49 am] eyes : TIE alert
[07:58 am] mhaus : HITK
[08:03 am] rickdparsons : As a newby, can you guys give me ideas TOS setups.
[08:06 am] anthonyb : Rick, This is what helped me. Keep a notepad open and write down every call the mods make. Put a note next to each as to who made the call. Go over your charts afterwards and see the similarities i n each trade
[08:08 am] anthonyb : before you know it, rick, you'll have them figured out.
[08:10 am] anthonyb : STAA still moving up from its breakout @ 10ish
[08:12 am] truck : Thanks Ed for MELI...Plus .57
[08:13 am] Ed : nice truck
[08:14 am] truck : MOS,,,and MELI
[08:15 am] aussie123 : TIE...puts 80 to 1 over calls
[08:15 am] rusty : ILMN alert
[08:16 am] rusty : takeover chatter
[08:19 am] mikewd2 -: SINA
[08:20 am] anthonyb : out STAA long for +.29 not bad for a 10 stock.
[08:21 am] bopphaley : TS offers Stochastic fast and slow. Which one is being used in the shared window? And, does anyone know if there's a way to duplicate the Stochastic/Volume window in TS that Mitch uses?
[08:22 am] mhaus : K=10, smoothing=8 and D=7
[08:23 am] rickdparsons : Good question bopphaley...this is my first day and I am trying to setup TOS also...
[08:23 am] anthonyb : rick I think bophaley is using tradestation[08:24 am] bopphaley : One more question. They have stochastic Slow indicator and SS Strategy. Yes. TS
[08:24 am] anthonyb : not thinkorswim[08:24 am] ghaziar : SFLY looks interesting for a long.
[08:24 am] rickdparsons : ah...ok
[08:24 am] anthonyb : Rick, get used to looking at charts like ILMN.
[08:25 am] mhaus : rick, IMHO, TOS is expensive
[08:25 am] anthonyb : Look at volume rising with price
[08:25 am] anthonyb : Mitch is the expert on these type of trades
[08:28 am] mikewd2 -: anyone in LRN for long swing?
[08:29 am] anthonyb : good looking daily chart mike
[08:30 am] rickdparsons : mhaus: are you referring to the commissions in TOS?
[08:31 am] mhaus : Yes, rick. The service cost.
[08:31 am] anthonyb : rick, look at the daily chart of LRN.
[08:32 am] rickdparsons : LRN...looking now
[08:32 am] anthonyb : out EXPE long +.26
[08:32 am] mhaus : TradeStation and Interactive Brokers are $0.005 per share with a $1.00 minimum charge
[08:32 am] observer : beautiful chart, vol. very tiny (LRN)
[08:33 am] anthonyb : actually mhaus, sometimes they charge me less than $1.00
[08:35 am] anthonyb : But, I have one commission for .47 on a 100 share trade
[08:35 am] garyb : Watching BA for bounce
[08:35 am] mhaus : how did you manage that?
[08:35 am] doji : STJ
[08:35 am] rickdparsons : Well I started out with TOS for option trades...If it works out here, maybe I will switch...
[08:35 am] anthonyb : I don't know, rebate maybe?
[08:35 am] garyb : NKE may bounce too
[08:36 am] mhaus : could be
[08:36 am] anthonyb : I use TOS as well Rick, but very little
[08:36 am] anthonyb : My swing trading accounts are with TDameritrade, TOS
[08:37 am] mhaus : Rick, TOS charts are good. Also, their Strategy Desk is good for scanning stocks.
[08:38 am] garyb : NKE starting to bounce..watching[08:38 am] rickdparsons : Thanks for the feedback !!
[08:39 am] anthonyb : been watching that one as well garyb[08:39 am] garyb : yes anthonyb! Trying to find stocks on my own today...fun!
[08:40 am] garyb : I am clicking over here like a wild man!
[08:40 am] anthonyb : I was hoping it would breakout. I had an order in over the high but no go
[08:40 am] garyb : looks like it's struggling...I have a tight stop
[08:40 am] garyb : but in green now! :)
[08:40 am] anthonyb : I traded only breakouts today
[08:41 am] anthonyb : except for EXPE
[08:41 am] garyb : I mean...look at 2 min on NKE...looks good
[08:43 am] anthonyb : See you all tomorrow gang have a great day
[08:43 am] Brent : you too anthonyb[08:45 am] garyb : NKE on the move...if anyone took the trade
[08:46 am] rickdparsons : Are there any videos or PDF files on TSA that help first timers with setting up etc.?
[08:46 am] rickdparsons : Or will that be on the DVD's I have coming in a few days?
[08:46 am] Brent : that's on the DVD's rick
[08:47 am] derns : It seems to me the markets are pricing in a lot of optimism for this week's EU meetings..I know I need to be objective on stock prices, but difficult to do.
[08:47 am] rickdparsons : Thanks, Brent!
[08:47 am] garyb : NKE...nice trade!
[08:49 am] garyb : watching TWX for bounce
[08:50 am] delux : the displayed chart is for trading?
[08:51 am] lisas : delux, sometimes display projector freezes, so u hopefully have your own charts
[08:51 am] garyb : anyone in NKE?
[08:51 am] derns : Garyb...I traded NKE after you mentioned it..but simulation only...thx for the idea
[08:53 am] garyb : no problem derns..it's a good one.....might be a little toppy here
[08:53 am] delux : Lisa i am using my chart but i think the chart is displayed for potential trades, isn't it?
[08:53 am] garyb : stochastics turning
[08:55 am] derns : GMCR back to 60!...stochastics look to be turning down tho[08:56 am] garyb : watching AMGN
[08:56 am] garyb : still going down though
[08:57 am] derns : old mo stocks are running..NFLX GMCR
[08:57 am] garyb : out of NKE....NICE profit! :)
[09:00 am] mikeg : ilmn[09:01 am] joeytsa : ILMN a nice chart
[09:05 am] doji : HFC swing from the DSR dropping...
[09:07 am] rickdparsons : what do you guys hope to scalp on each trade? 50 cents?
[09:07 am] mikewd2 -: 1%
[09:07 am] joeytsa : rick: most traders shoot for a %
[09:08 am] mikewd2 -: also depends on the type of trade
[09:08 am] rickdparsons : ok, thanks...that helps!
[09:09 am] rickdparsons : do you place an order to exit at your target or exit manually?
[09:09 am] mikewd2 -: i usually enter the stop and then watch
[09:10 am] mikewd2 -: once i move to tradestation, will use the matrix and place OCO or OSO orders immediately (i think i will)
[09:10 am] garyb : yes it will
[09:10 am] garyb : it's AWESOME mike!
[09:10 am] mikewd2 -: took the first two trading videos last night, charting tonight
[09:11 am] joeytsa : OCO is cool
[09:11 am] garyb : When I place an order it automatically brackets the order for me...and then I can move the prices around really fast
[09:11 am] mikewd2 -: couldn't figure the charts out on my own, couldn't zoom in and get the price to scale
[09:11 am] rickdparsons : TOS has OCO brackets in the Active Trader but haven't tried them
[09:11 am] garyb : Do you have a mouse with the roller ball Mike?
[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: hope it's as easy to use and as powerful as TC2000
[09:12 am] doji : ILMN is very strong, become a nice candidate for S
[09:13 am] garyb : Mike...you just have to experiment with it...once you understand how to work the charts it's pretty cool
[09:14 am] mikewd2 -: looking forward to it, going to trade in simulator this afternoon
[09:14 am] doji : If you see ILMN, it formed two parabolic curves on the volume but the price continue moving
[09:14 am] mikewd2 -: on etrade right now
[09:14 am] joeytsa : seems like everyone on Fast Money is bullish
[09:14 am] garyb : yes that is the best!..I trade live now and am still making some errors, but I'm learning
[09:18 am] garyb : watching AMGN again...might be a slow mover though
[09:23 am] doji : Did anyone shorted ILMN?
[09:23 am] rickdparsons : Is there any disadvantage to buying one very large screen to manage charts as opposed to having 2 or 3 screens?
[09:23 am] lightning : Yes, I shorted at 31.60 and am have already closed out 2/3 of the position
[09:23 am] lightning : (ILMN)
[09:24 am] joeytsa : rick: too large a screen may be hard on the eyes..and you might have to sit further away
[09:24 am] doji : Great, I shorted at 31.93, closing position here
[09:24 am] lightning : great price doji[09:24 am] joeytsa : nice trading
[09:25 am] doji : Thanks buddy
[09:25 am] lightning : I'm holding onto the last part of ILN to see if it can drop to close to VWAP
[09:25 am] joeytsa : i took it late..bucket drop
[09:28 am] lightning : covered the rest of ILMN at 30.60
[09:29 am] doji : Good job lightning
[09:29 am] joeytsa : great job lightning
[09:29 am] Ed : great job light
[09:30 am] jsn13 : Doji how do consistently get such good price? do u get stopped out often? sometimes it might be head fake....can u briefly explain how u act at the top?
[09:33 am] joeytsa : HITK lod[09:33 am] joeytsa : probably not a big trade if any
[09:34 am] doji : jsn13, I look at the volume and the stochastcis and the chances for are reversal was on my side, so I prepared my limit order and also a tight stop
[09:34 am] doji : on ILMN
[09:34 am] joeytsa : yeah, saw that big red candle/vol in relation to the surrounding ones
[09:35 am] joeytsa : on HITK
[09:35 am] doji : Now my eyes don't move from volume; it can be a nice price and a nice setup but if volume is not there, I just pass on
[09:35 am] apple : joey, i wanted to mention that i watched the Lightspeed webinar on Peak Performance - i took 13-1/2 pages of notes, I must write smaller than you do. It was fantastic. Much along the lines of Trading In The Zone. Anyone interested, just go to Lightspeed.com and click on the webinars. Thanks for sharing - again, joey!
[09:36 am] joeytsa : glad you liked it apple...i watched it again yesterday with my notes in front of me
[09:36 am] doji : I spent two days reviewing the presentation and took 10 pages of writing. What a helpful presentation. Thanks Joey
[09:37 am] doji : ILMN, having increase volume... possible long
[09:37 am] joeytsa : i just think all traders go through the same issues..whether we admit it or not, always good to keep things in perspective
[09:37 am] jsn13 : So doji did u get stop out at 30 bucks area, and 31.5 area?
[09:37 am] doji : Support at 29.85
[09:38 am] doji : I place my exit order at 31...
[09:38 am] doji : and was filled in full
[09:38 am] joeytsa : very good trading doji[09:38 am] doji : It was a 25% retracement from 32
[09:39 am] doji : 31.5 is like over 35% retracement
[09:40 am] doji : 31.5 is in fact 38% retracement... remember 38%, 50%, 62% retracements
[09:40 am] apple : fib
[09:40 am] doji : Yes Apple
[09:40 am] jsn13 : so my question is that did u short at 30 bucks and 31.5 head fakes?
[09:41 am] doji : Nope
[09:41 am] jsn13 : but why?
[09:42 am] doji : Simply because it was not in my radar, I was working on something else
[09:42 am] jsn13 : ok....
[09:42 am] joeytsa : jsn: both of those areas would have been decent quick scalps...but the overall trend was up
[09:42 am] jsn13 : but if u see it would it fit what u want?
[09:44 am] doji : I'd have shorted it at 31 and then dropped it at 30 (support)
[09:45 am] jsn13 : i shorted at 30.5 and covered at 29.7 area....
[09:45 am] doji : I wouldn't have shorted at 31.5 because 31 become now support, so 32 was 3% over
[09:45 am] doji : That was very good jns13
[09:45 am] rickdparsons : checking TOS commissions...it is .015 cents a share but $5 min. So if more than 333 shares it is .015 each.
[09:45 am] joeytsa : good job jsn !!!
[09:46 am] doji : But remember, put the odds in your favor, the higher it moves, the harder it drops
[09:46 am] doji : ILMN
[09:46 am] jsn13 : i see ur point doji.....thanks a lot.....it definitely helps me....
[09:46 am] joeytsa : jsn: you also have to determine the type of trader you are, or the trades you want to focus on....
[09:47 am] victor51 : Brent and Mitch, Missed CNQR but enjoying ILMN short. Thanks
[09:47 am] joeytsa : you can try to catch every move, or look to play the reversals only, or the pullbacks
[09:47 am] lisas : jsn, I also look for resistance levels on higher time frame, like daily, 60 min
[09:48 am] jsn13 : how did u guys trade CNQR juz now? thanks lisas....
[09:49 am] jsn13 : Mind sharing ur prices here?
[09:50 am] lisas : jsn, I missed it myself, late morning for me today
[09:51 am] rickdparsons : jsn...I am new also. I understand you can get a DVD set from TSA that explains a lot of what is going on. I am waiting for mine...
[09:52 am] jsn13 : I got Wizard training course and trade with the pros and i already watched it....but things got improved here...some settings and indicators are diff here....
[09:53 am] mikewd2 -: garyb, you still have your TNA long?
[09:54 am] mhaus : watching N
[09:54 am] dan : Brent, your thought on BRCM?
[09:55 am] doji : I don't see anything in BRCM Dan at this point
[09:55 am] doji : personally
[09:55 am] mikewd2 -: GS states RIMM worth $18 for sum of the parts
[09:55 am] Brent : Don't see anything interesting in BRCM dan[10:01 am] doji : MW Article: Why the Euro will survive and thrive... know all these analysis are positive on the Euro
[10:01 am] sfarrill : viab[10:02 am] lightning : nice sfarrill. VIAB could be nice
[10:02 am] doji : FLX approaching R3
[10:03 am] doji : 72.13
[10:03 am] doji : with high volume
[10:03 am] jsn13 : r u referring to NFLX?
[10:04 am] doji : YEs sorry NFLX
[10:05 am] doji : ILMN weak rebound
[10:11 am] jsn13 : Doji may i know how did u do on CNQR short in the morning?
[10:13 am] doji : Shorted at 54,62 and closed it at 53.03
[10:14 am] doji : shorted again at 53.73 and close it at 51.53
[10:14 am] doji : Anyone shorted ILMN on the weak rebound?
[10:16 am] lightning : I did not, I was looking for a long opportunity on ILMN
[10:17 am] doji : Shorted at 29.87, when it broke below the previous low
[10:17 am] lightning : that was a good move doji[10:17 am] jsn13 : The reason for 2nd helping on CNQR was? i only shorted at 54 and covered at 53.3 area...
[10:18 am] doji : it didn't break the previous resistance
[10:18 am] jsn13 : Of 54 bucks? did u manage ur trade by moving the stop loss?
[10:18 am] doji : Yes
[10:19 am] doji : Always have my stop loss along with my S/L order so I just slide it as the stocks move
[10:19 am] jsn13 : So even without Stochastic at 80 area, u feel confident....am i right?
[10:21 am] doji : Yes, not necessarily if the potential gap is over 3%. The stock gapped from Friday 47 to today 55 and gave a nice short at 5 minutes after the open
[10:21 am] doji : then the second leg short was around 9:56
[10:22 am] doji : at 55 it already gapped 17%
[10:23 am] jsn13 : Wow u offered me such a great insights and perspectives.....Thanks doji.....u r really the man....now that i know why u always got such great prices to limit ur risk.....
[10:24 am] doji : Better you do paper trade for at least 3 months and see the action here... always listen to Mitch, Kris, Brent and Ed
[10:24 am] bopphaley : Is there a way to copy this chat to a word doc so I can' delete parts and use the learning parts? I'm looking so many different places that I can't catch everything but going back and trying to find it is cumbersome in this window. Thanks.
[10:24 am] doji : and the rest of the team
[10:27 am] delux : hod for what?
[10:27 am] mikewd2 -: bopphaley: you can right click in the chat window and copy all the chat and paste into word or other doc.
[10:27 am] doji : hod=high of the day
[10:27 am] doji : low = low of the day
[10:27 am] delux : then long or short?
[10:28 am] doji : neither
[10:29 am] joeytsa : TLEO making a nice little move
[10:30 am] mikewd2 -: looked like lots of the computer services have been moving up today
[10:30 am] joeytsa : nice catch Ed
[10:31 am] Ed : been strong
[10:32 am] rusty : QIHU radar
[10:32 am] rusty : sudden volume
[10:32 am] joeytsa : nice move though..broke thru some res with a blast of volume
[10:33 am] mikewd2 -: tried to short TLEO but missed it
[10:34 am] joeytsa : yeah mike i missed it too
[10:35 am] mikewd2 -: TLEO, could be takeover target
[10:36 am] doji : Me too, I was expecting it to move a little higher
[10:42 am] doji : Aggh missed ILMN short at 30.5
[10:42 am] doji : SPY dropping hard!
[10:42 am] mikewd2 -: markets falling
[10:43 am] doji : IMF OKs 2.2 billion euros for Greece
[10:45 am] joeytsa : Obama getting ready to talk about taxes..think they are headed up
[10:45 am] doji : If the IMF is Ok, why is the market dropping? They thought the $$ would be lower?
[10:46 am] lightning : SP threatening to lower the ratings of Germany, France and three other Euro countries.
[10:46 am] joeytsa : just in time for the meeting this week
[10:46 am] joeytsa : market is like a puppet on a string
[10:47 am] doji : Remember the market is the most chaotic place to be
[10:50 am] doji : SPY new lod[10:52 am] richard : lisas - where are the good TS tutorials you mentioned last week?
[10:55 am] lisas : richard, education tab, University link has quick tutorials, go to basics for platform use, they also have some on other topics.
[10:55 am] lisas : http://www.tradestation.com/education/univers ity/school-of-tradestation-basics
[10:55 am] apple : LULU lod[10:56 am] lisas : Here are longer webcasts that go more in depth: http://www.tradestation.com/education/events/ on-demand-webcasts/tradestation-basics/gettin g-started
[10:57 am] lisas : That is under education/events. They also have live classes you can sign up for so you can ask questions
[11:01 am] doji : RIMM
[11:01 am] Mitch K: what's the news driving mkt down?
[11:01 am] mikewd2 -: not sure
[11:01 am] lightning : Market weakens on talk of potential ratings actions in euro zone. The averages remain higher but off their best levels. The market has given up roughly half of its gains from earlier. The retreat is being attributed to a report from the Financial Times that says S&P has warned Germany and five other countries in the euro zone with AAA ratings that they face the risk of a downgrade due to both economic weakness and political turmoil. Today's market move was tenuous to begin with, since the highs came at the open and the market has moved in a narrow range ever since. At last look, the Dow was up 71 points, the Nasdaq was up 30 points, and the S&P was up 12 points. :theflyonthewall.com
[11:01 am] doji : IMF approved 2.2 billion euros for Greece
[11:01 am] mikewd2 -: s&P warns of Euro Nations Downgrade.
[11:01 am] docsmith : downgrade by S&P of europe[11:02 am] garyb : S&P Warns Germany, 5 Other Euro Zone Nations With Triple-A Credit Ratings That Their Ratings Are at Risk for Downgrade: FT (Story developing)
[11:02 am] Mitch K: thanks gary
[11:02 am] docsmith : Like they didn't know Europe was in trouble?
[11:09 am] doji : TZA hod[11:09 am] garyb : I'm in TZA...you doji?
[11:09 am] joeytsa : Weiss already has most of europe graded below C
[11:10 am] doji : No Gary
[11:10 am] mikewd2 -: Obama talking about tax cut extensions
[11:11 am] Mitch K: Obama on TV now, saying traders are in 1%, must give to 99%
[11:11 am] joeytsa : lots of banks more vulnerable than most believe
[11:25 am] joeytsa : 2012 will sure be interesting
[11:26 am] qwert : bye everybody awesome day see ya in the am
[11:27 am] Ed : have fun qwert[11:27 am] Brent : have a good night qwert[11:28 am] joeytsa : i agree Mitch...might lead to a run in the US$??
[11:28 am] joeytsa : i can't figure the news out
[11:29 am] joeytsa : new quote taped to my monitor " Sell when you can, not when you have to "
[11:29 am] lisas : good one joey
[11:30 am] apple : i love it ... should have done that last week!
[11:42 am] joeytsa : ARBA running a bit
[11:42 am] lightning : watching ARBA and TLEO
[11:43 am] apple : ARBA looks good
[11:51 am] joeytsa : stopped at be..oh well
[11:53 am] joeytsa : AMZN moving down on news
[11:54 am] lightning : S ARBA
[11:55 am] doji : S ARBA 34.09
[11:57 am] lightning : watching IMAX
[11:57 am] garyb : SPY bouncing
[11:59 am] doji : If work, ARBA target should be around 33.6
[11:59 am] mikewd2 -: out TNA 1% gain
[12:00 pm] mikewd2 -: i shorted ARBA 34.06
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: stopped ARBA
[12:01 pm] garyb : good one Mike!
[12:01 pm] doji : aggg stopped ARBA...
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : nice mike
[12:02 pm] lightning : glad the stops work! Stopped ARBA
[12:02 pm] chris1 : stopped arba ... grrrr[12:02 pm] joeytsa : glad i didn't go for a 2nd try
[12:03 pm] mikewd2 -: up nice this morning, have let it get away this afternoon.
[12:03 pm] garyb : no...that you got 1% on TNA mike
[12:03 pm] doji : IMAX
[12:03 pm] mikewd2 -: my only win this afternoon
[12:04 pm] doji : Did you short IMAX lightning?
[12:04 pm] lightning : no doji, I missed the IMAX short.
[12:04 pm] mikewd2 -: WFT hod[12:04 pm] lightning : did you get IMAX doji[12:06 pm] michael : S ARBA @ 34.45, stop 34.6
[12:06 pm] doji : Nope, I got ARBA and lost...
[12:06 pm] lightning : you and me both.
[12:06 pm] doji : That is ok, lost only $100... minimum loses
[12:07 pm] doji : SPY new lod[12:09 pm] lightning : that ARBA. Now under 34
[12:09 pm] doji : Good entry in ARBA Michael, I should have been more patience with mine
[12:09 pm] michael : I blew the exit, out at 34.10
[12:09 pm] joeytsa : better than a loss
[12:10 pm] apple : agree
[12:10 pm] michael : true
[12:10 pm] doji : The hard part is not the entry but the exit order... ARBA has support at 33.5
[12:10 pm] michael : you hit 'em doji, I'm always out early
[12:11 pm] doji : Loss is part of the game; you have to learn something. What I learnt? Well, I have to be more patient
[12:11 pm] joeytsa : same here doji...especially middle of the day for me...
[12:12 pm] apple : patience is critical... my lack of patience last week, cost me...
[12:12 pm] joeytsa : i re-learned that, the past couple of weeks i have been re-reading the best trading book ever written, from the late 90's early 2000's
[12:12 pm] doji : What is that book Joey?
[12:12 pm] apple : which one?
[12:13 pm] joeytsa : it's called " My Trading Journal" written by Joeytsa :)
[12:13 pm] joeytsa : older trades, but i learned a few things about myself..which sadly i knew
[12:13 pm] doji : I have mine also and when I look at it, I cannot believe all the silly mistakes I did in the past
[12:15 pm] khall : So, I'm thinking that we may get a little pullback here in the next few days
[12:15 pm] apple : SPY lod[12:15 pm] doji : Here it comes the selling
[12:15 pm] joeytsa : ES below 1230
[12:15 pm] joeytsa : 1250
[12:16 pm] joeytsa : SINA has been a bleeder all day
[12:16 pm] doji : I hate the foolishness from Market Watch columnist... one minute they same something and the minute later something different!
[12:16 pm] joeytsa : eye on GS to see if it takes out the lows
[12:16 pm] apple : two-faced
[12:17 pm] joeytsa : doji: news is just to create volume sometimes
[12:17 pm] neel : All Euro Zone nation on S&P credit watch -Negative
[12:17 pm] apple : illusion
[12:18 pm] doji : Yes, I fully understand their games, what I don't understand is that these guys don't have the minimum respect for themselves, their credibility is zero
[12:19 pm] apple : exactly
[12:19 pm] neel : S&P Announcement at 4pm
[12:19 pm] joeytsa : AAPL lod[12:20 pm] joeytsa : of course it's after hours :)
[12:24 pm] doji : ARBA finally gave 33.6.... hahaha that green candle at 3:00PM killed us Lightning
[12:24 pm] joeytsa : yeah, i was out long b4 that big green candle
[12:28 pm] doji : Ok guys, I got go, see you tomorrow!
[12:29 pm] Ed : see ya doji[12:30 pm] mhaus : TLEO
[12:41 pm] neel : QIHU
[12:42 pm] mikeg : jva[12:42 pm] delux : i am paper trading. my stop was not filled though the price over passed it. why?
[12:44 pm] joeytsa : not sure on that delux[12:47 pm] apple : thx MK, K, B, E and everyone. Gotta go, have a wonderful evening. see you all tomorrow.
[12:47 pm] Ed : see ya apple
[12:48 pm] Brent : was it a stop limit or stop market delux?
[12:48 pm] Brent : not sure why it would matter on SIM mode, but it might
[12:48 pm] joeytsa : apparently pelosi has a ton of dirt on newt...waiting for the right time to divulge
[12:48 pm] delux : i am not sure Brent
[12:50 pm] Brent : some platforms you don't have an option of choosing stop limit, but if you can, you want to be using stop market
[12:51 pm] Brent : not sure why yours didn't fill on SIM mode though
[12:51 pm] delux : thanks Brent
[12:54 pm] joeytsa : might be some big moves coming on any downgrades next few minutes
[01:00 pm] lisas : Thanks TSA and all, have a great nite!
[01:14 pm] delux : what are the long wicks on SPY candles? are these real price moves?
[01:15 pm] joeytsa : lots of SPY action last 5mins
[01:15 pm] joeytsa : over 13M shares
[01:17 pm] delux : are they affect on tomorrow's market?
[01:17 pm] joeytsa : honestly not sure, it's happened a few times recently
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