Chat Highlights From 12/02/2011

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:10 am] Ed : Good Morning Traders
[06:11 am] Mitch K: hi ladies
[06:22 am] Brent : good morning
[06:28 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:29 am] Mitch K: i don't trade on luck, i trade on trade architect
[06:29 am] Mitch K: who's commercial is that?
[06:30 am] Kris : RIMM short half
[06:30 am] Mitch K: monitoring CBRL for potential short
[06:32 am] Kris : VAL short half
[06:32 am] Mitch K: monitoring ULTA for potential short
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching DISH, just monitoring
[06:34 am] Kris : NFLX short half
[06:36 am] Mitch K: looking for short on VAL top of this bounce soon
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching TJX for bottom to buy
[06:39 am] Mitch K: consider covering half of ULTA
[06:41 am] Kris : looking for a new lod in RIMM
[06:41 am] Mitch K: looking for top to short in PFG
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching for potential short on top of this bounce in NNN
[06:42 am] Brent : watching NUGT for a bounce
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching for bottom in INHX to buy, i like to wait longer for this one, lower float
[06:44 am] Kris : out half RIMM short
[06:46 am] Kris : out another 1/4 RIMM short
[06:47 am] Kris : APKT long half
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching for short STX soon
[06:49 am] Kris : watching BNS for a long reversal
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider selling INHX if you went long
[06:50 am] Kris : support BNS 48.40 to 48.20
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching HRB drop, waiting longer for this one
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching VHC for potential short on top of this move
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching AGU drop, want higher vol each candle
[06:54 am] Kris : out all RIMM short
[06:56 am] Kris : GPOR long half
[06:57 am] Mitch K: ag-chemical stocks selling down hard: AGU, MOS, MON, POT, IPI
[06:58 am] Kris : YOKU long half
[06:59 am] Brent : tighten stop on NUGT if long, not acting right
[07:00 am] Mitch K: FIO worth small short
[07:01 am] Kris : AMAT long half
[07:02 am] Kris : ARMH long half
[07:02 am] Mitch K: the scaling in FIO chart goofy with esignal chart
[07:08 am] Mitch K: consider covering VHC, use limit orders
[07:09 am] Mitch K: new leg down on AGU, other ag chemicals
[07:10 am] Kris : SPY trying to hold up just under hod. if we get consolidation here look for a break higher.
[07:10 am] Mitch K: late to see short in INHX, still little profit left, best to wait for 15.35+
[07:12 am] Mitch K: quickie short on CAH on top of this bounce, smaller position
[07:15 am] Mitch K: monitoring JBL, no conclusions yet
[07:16 am] Mitch K: banks moving up nicely, JPM, USB, WFC, C, BAC
[07:17 am] Kris : out half APKT long
[07:19 am] Kris : GPOR consolidation near hod[07:19 am] Mitch K: JBL turning over
[07:23 am] Ed : INHX worth small short
[07:23 am] Ed : save some ammo though
[07:24 am] Kris : SPY forming nice trendline support
[07:25 am] Kris : out half GPOR long
[07:29 am] Mitch K: watching for short in SFLY
[07:30 am] Mitch K: projector not working again, must be a setting
[07:30 am] Mitch K: watching BIIB for potential long
[07:31 am] Brent : SPY testing hod[07:32 am] Ed : reduce some INHX
[07:32 am] Mitch K: projector
[07:33 am] Ed : out some more INHX
[07:34 am] Ed : holding last 1/4 with stop @ breakeven 15.31
[08:02 am] Mitch K: projector not working, have to reset
[08:06 am] Brent : NUGT still dropping
[08:06 am] Brent : SPY approaching lod[08:14 am] Mitch K: looking for a bounce in indexes
[08:15 am] Brent : SPY new lod[08:23 am] Mitch K: did anyone short the VAL top or NNN top
[08:24 am] Mitch K: i never suggested shorting the banks but some really sold off, life insurance companies mostly
[08:43 am] Brent : SPY looking to test lod[09:46 am] Brent : SPY at trendline support
[10:14 am] Ed : watching DE see if we can get more selling
[10:15 am] Ed : may take longer due to down drift all day
[10:16 am] Brent : PRGO strong today
[10:37 am] Brent : for a bounce, thx monster
[10:37 am] Brent : watching ZMH
[10:37 am] Ed : be back in 30
[10:38 am] Ed : keep eye on MMM also
[10:43 am] Kris : ZMH looking juicy
[10:50 am] Brent : HCA alert
[10:50 am] Brent : thx lightning
[11:01 am] Brent : weak bounce so far in ZMH
[11:03 am] Brent : watching UHS for a bounce, would like to see it drop more first
[11:06 am] Mitch K: more upside on STJ maybe after a little pullback
[11:09 am] Brent : consider reducing HCA too
[11:09 am] Brent : consider reducing UHS if long
[11:09 am] Ed : I'm back
[11:10 am] Brent : next target on HCA is 23.75 area
[11:10 am] Mitch K: last comment is not a suggestion to buy STJ, but to hold if still long
[11:10 am] Mitch K: STJ still strong
[11:13 am] Mitch K: first sell signal on STJ
[11:18 am] Mitch K: how did you guys do on this last flurry of ideas, STJ, HCA, UHS
[11:24 am] Ed : anyone get MMM long?
[11:24 am] Ed : ok
[11:24 am] Mitch K: DE on right chart, starting to move, more upside
[11:25 am] Mitch K: now that STJ has new low, you don't want to jump in long, usually more downside
[11:27 am] Brent : MDT alert
[11:27 am] Brent : thx Joey
[11:31 am] Mitch K: MDT setting up for nice long soon
[11:36 am] Mitch K: first buy signal to cover STJ here
[11:46 am] Ed : consider reducing MDT
[11:46 am] Mitch K: the second bounce in STJ and MDT should be bigger than first. MDT is already now bigger jump
[11:49 am] Mitch K: first sell signals on STJ and MDT
[11:49 am] Mitch K: good short on MDT
[11:56 am] Mitch K: here we go again on STJ, lower low
[11:56 am] Mitch K: here we go again on STJ, lower low nice profit on the short of MDT
[11:56 am] Mitch K: i mean the same ones
[11:56 am] Mitch K: remember you get 2 and sometimes 3 trades on stocks
[12:07 pm] Brent : watching MCP, hasn't dropped enough for me yet, so just monitoring
[12:10 pm] Brent : nice Joey
[12:10 pm] Brent : watching VOLC for a bounce
[12:13 pm] Brent : SPY at trendline resistance
[12:15 pm] Ed : not enough money in GMCR for me will pass to close to consolidation
[12:27 pm] Brent : SPY testing lod[12:31 pm] Brent : SPY new lod[12:45 pm] Mitch K: now toward the end of the day of a stock that has been sold off quite a bit, there is a tendency to see some short covering which is same as buying, and drives up a stock
[12:45 pm] Mitch K: the drop in STJ is only from $38 to 35 though
[12:46 pm] Mitch K: STJ could give another small short but only 14 minutes left
[12:46 pm] Mitch K: the projector not working again, don't rely on charts, use your own charts
[12:54 pm] Mitch K: make sure you guys follow VHC on Monday, could be interesting moves both ways, remind us ok?
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: argh, missed MAKO bounce
[01:00 pm] Brent : Have a great weekend, see you monday[01:00 pm] Ed : have a great weekend Traders, see you on monday[01:00 pm] Mitch K: see you guys Monday
[06:09 am] joeytsa : i just don't believe our latest number, but i will trade it like i do haha[06:10 am] derns : GM all...Joey..I agree with you on published unemployment rate.
[06:10 am] shark : Brazil reported 6% (Bloomberg article) on 8-25-2011
[06:11 am] joeytsa : important thing is how all of the other traders perceive it
[06:14 am] shark : KeyBanc Capital Mkts upgraded LULU to Buy from Underweight and sets target price at $58
[06:15 am] shark : LULU upgraded to Overweight from Equal Weight at Barclays
[06:15 am] joeytsa : i like Mitch's market thoughts and hope he nails it
[06:15 am] doji : Why the ES has dropped after the unemployment was released?
[06:16 am] joeytsa : interesting doji...maybe no one else believes it either?
[06:16 am] joeytsa : 1265 seems to be some resistance
[06:17 am] joeytsa : IMF's Lagarde says european contagion risks have materialized
[06:18 am] joeytsa : this who thing seems to have been orchestrated, at least to my ct mindset :)
[06:19 am] joeytsa : china slowdown, Eurozone stalling. But hey we have a global bank rate cut
[06:19 am] doji : There is one article in MW: Don't be fooled, get short now!
[06:19 am] doji : Read it...
[06:19 am] derns : GM doji..what is MW?
[06:19 am] doji : Just printing additional money will not save the EU
[06:20 am] doji : Market Watch
[06:20 am] joeytsa : doji: i would love to see every down trending stock to rally right up to their ma's/resistance levels
[06:20 am] joeytsa : mentioned that to shark last week :)
[06:20 am] eyes : WDC any thoughts
[06:21 am] doji : Yes Joey, if RIMM does that, I'll short it right there below R
[06:22 am] joeytsa : germany needs the ECB to print, i will be looking for an area to short FXE eventually
[06:23 am] skydiver : eyes - news on WDC - flooding conditions in Thailand didn't affect WDC's productions as much as previously thought
[06:31 am] joeytsa : nice spike in DISH
[06:34 am] sfarrill : BIG
[06:34 am] joeytsa : italian bond yield have pulled back to the 6.5 area
[06:39 am] joeytsa : MON looks weak
[06:41 am] apple : LULU on the move
[06:41 am] shark : go, LULU, go
[06:42 am] anthonyb : YOKU topping
[06:46 am] eyes : DISH
[06:47 am] mhaus : STX
[06:49 am] mhaus : BNS
[06:49 am] michael : HRB alert, dropping
[06:50 am] joeytsa : AMZN perfect bounce after holding support at the pivot
[06:50 am] joeytsa : IOC weak
[06:50 am] mhaus : watching RKT
[06:50 am] joeytsa : AGU another that gone straight down
[06:51 am] mhaus : watching LULU
[06:51 am] apple : wow on AGU really straight down
[06:51 am] shark : LULU up 6%. :)
[06:52 am] joeytsa : GS with strength
[06:52 am] apple : hey good one shark
[06:52 am] doji : SPY new lod[06:52 am] joeytsa : LULU was the earnings play yesterday right
[06:53 am] joeytsa : can't find my notes hah
[06:53 am] shark : yes
[06:53 am] apple : yeah, i think so
[06:53 am] anthonyb : RIMM is paying my bills today
[06:53 am] shark : missed on top line, guided conservatively
[06:53 am] joeytsa : right
[06:54 am] shark : 15% shorts on LULU before earnings
[06:54 am] joeytsa : thankfully still had them up on my charts
[06:54 am] doji : Good call in RIMM Brent
[06:54 am] doji : Stopped in VAL [06:54 am] derns : MON red candles
[06:54 am] doji : still in VAL Kris?
[06:55 am] joeytsa : tightening stop on MON
[06:56 am] mhaus : ULTA
[06:56 am] joeytsa : all out MON
[06:56 am] mhaus : CRR
[06:56 am] joeytsa : might revisit it
[06:57 am] doji : Watching BNS
[06:57 am] doji : VAL closing the gap
[06:58 am] shark : ZUMZ interesting -up 15% on earnings
[06:58 am] apple : BNS straight down too
[06:58 am] joeytsa : VAL nice
[06:59 am] apple : nice V - quick
[06:59 am] joeytsa : AAPL hod[06:59 am] skydiver : Take over chatter on FIO
[06:59 am] doji : Long BNS 48.21
[07:00 am] joeytsa : seeing a few stocks with charts either straight up or straight down
[07:00 am] skydiver : S FIO 31.90
[07:01 am] doji : SPY moving up
[07:01 am] skydiver : All out of FIO 31.67
[07:03 am] joeytsa : ULTA was great trade on the break above 72
[07:03 am] shark : funny how it was down big after hours yesterday when they reported
[07:03 am] truck : out half BNS...
[07:03 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 BNS +.40
[07:04 am] doji : Mixed my long with short in BNS... not my day
[07:04 am] anthonyb : correction +.34
[07:04 am] truck : Plus .35
[07:04 am] joeytsa : nice truck
[07:04 am] truck : thanks
[07:05 am] anthonyb : gap fill NFLX
[07:06 am] truck : out 1/4 plus .42,,BNS
[07:06 am] anthonyb : all out BNS
[07:06 am] lightning : S 1/2 VAL
[07:06 am] joeytsa : yeah anthony, sure didn't look like they wanted to go above it haha[07:06 am] anthonyb : +.30something
[07:06 am] doji : Good job Truck, I missed those profits from BNS
[07:07 am] doji : Took it short instead of long, wrong key
[07:07 am] shark : oh, man!
[07:07 am] joeytsa : MON with a little turnaround
[07:07 am] truck : out last piece,,plus .50 ,,thansk Brent !
[07:08 am] joeytsa : NFLX with another attempt to push thru prev cl
[07:08 am] apple : DMND lod[07:08 am] joeytsa : GS still running
[07:09 am] scalpman : BNS nice one
[07:09 am] doji : GS resistance ar 100
[07:10 am] electrader : l BNS 48.29 out 1/2 - 48.55
[07:10 am] apple : good job electrader[07:11 am] lightning : S second half VAL
[07:11 am] doji : RIMM dropping again
[07:11 am] shark : SPY consolidating at R2 resistance
[07:12 am] truck : TIBX,,?
[07:12 am] pow : P is nice swing here
[07:13 am] doji : New hod SPY
[07:13 am] doji : GS
[07:13 am] truck : TIBX up 3.05%
[07:13 am] lightning : out 1/3 BNS here, may have stalled
[07:15 am] electrader : BNS - consolidating while stoch heading down - might give us another pop Lightning
[07:16 am] mhaus : ULTA still climbing
[07:16 am] lightning : maybe so electrader...that's why I'm keeping 2/3, but putting my stop just below .50
[07:16 am] mhaus : JPM
[07:16 am] apple : nice on ULTA
[07:17 am] apple : GS broke 100
[07:18 am] mhaus : CFX
[07:18 am] electrader : all out BNS
[07:19 am] anthonyb : LAD
[07:19 am] lightning : VAL being a stubborn short. Covered 1/2 and moved stop close
[07:21 am] derns : is it too dangerous to consider a 3 min fade short on GS..when the indicators show?
[07:21 am] lightning : covered the rest of VAL. Enough for a nice lunch!
[07:21 am] doji : I was stopped in VAL at 10:00 when it broke above 36
[07:23 am] lightning : out a little more BNS here at VWAP.
[07:23 am] anthonyb : PCYC
[07:24 am] electrader : good job lightning
[07:24 am] electrader : had my stop a little tight on BNS stopped last portion at 48.68
[07:24 am] lightning : thanks el, still have 1/3 to see what will happen with BNS
[07:25 am] lightning : it made the cash register ring, though, didn't it?
[07:25 am] electrader : if it can break VWAP you should have clear sailing
[07:26 am] michael : Derns, I'll do GS if stoch breaks below 80 on 1 minute
[07:27 am] lightning : I kept waiting to short JPM, but I think I need to look away....too strong
[07:27 am] doji : small short in INHX, will wait to add if doesn't break hod[07:28 am] derns : short GS 101.05
[07:28 am] lightning : watching SFLY for possible short
[07:29 am] truck : out half,TIBX,,plus .15
[07:29 am] skydiver : AKAM - chatter of take over
[07:29 am] electrader : there she goes lightning
[07:30 am] electrader : happy sailing
[07:30 am] lightning : lol[07:31 am] electrader : lightning i'm enjoying watching it just knowing you're still in
[07:31 am] anthonyb : pedal faster ED, the projector needs more juice
[07:32 am] skydiver : reducing INHX
[07:32 am] derns : stopped on GS
[07:32 am] skydiver : thnks ED
[07:34 am] qwert : thx ed for inhx[07:34 am] doji : out INHX at 15.06, thanks ED!
[07:35 am] Ed : great job guys/gals
[07:38 am] storage : anyone still in the DISH short?
[07:42 am] storage : DISH s26.27 cover 25.80 thanks Mitch
[07:43 am] skydiver : AKAM coming down nicely
[07:43 am] lightning : S SFLY
[07:44 am] lightning : forgot to post, all out BNS
[07:47 am] scalpman : All out ibgx[07:47 am] scalpman : inhx[07:47 am] scalpman : Still have 1/2 JBL S
[07:47 am] pow : watch GS for short
[07:50 am] scalpman : Out Another 1/5 JBL S
[07:50 am] lightning : stopped out on SFLY short
[07:50 am] anthonyb : stopped out SFLY
[07:53 am] pow : GS took out new high
[07:53 am] doji : Does anyone of you receive the DSR?
[07:54 am] lightning : yes doji[07:54 am] apple : yes, don't you?
[07:55 am] doji : So my questions is: knowing that when we receive the report, our entry price on any L/S position will be different compared to that posted in the DSR, how do you manage your position?
[07:55 am] eyes : i do
[07:55 am] anthonyb : I don't receive it, should I?
[07:55 am] apple : yes, you should ab[07:55 am] doji : Do you wait for the price to come close to the DSR's entry price or you just go L/S?
[07:56 am] anthonyb : is it a subscription, or is it part of the chat room tuition
[07:56 am] lightning : anthonyb, extra
[07:56 am] Brent : it's a separate subscription anthonyb, it's for swing trading primarily
[07:56 am] apple : yes, doji, but MK posts it the night before and would have put the position on during the day. so your price will be different...
[07:56 am] derns : GS remains strong..sure would like to short it again
[07:57 am] lightning : doji, he often enters a swing at the open
[07:57 am] doji : I know that Apple so how do you manage your entry price?
[07:58 am] derns : GS short 102.18
[07:58 am] michael : Doji, if Mitch is already in, I will usually wait for a pullback to the 15 ma on the 5 minute to enter
[07:58 am] jolliffboy : thanks qwert. I was dropped out earlier and thought it happened again.
[07:59 am] apple : doji, i do the same as michael, i try to wait for a pullback, if not, i pass
[07:59 am] scalpman : 4 for 5 today...leaving live trade and going to simulator to protect profits.
[08:00 am] doji : Yes but if the current price is let's say 3 to 5% and it doesn't pull back, what do you do?
[08:00 am] michael : I'll chalk it up to missing the boat on that one and look for another
[08:00 am] anthonyb : reshort sfly[08:00 am] apple : i pass
[08:01 am] anthonyb : good idea apple
[08:01 am] doji : Ok, I think we are all in agreement, personally I won't take anything that has moved over 2% already unless it pull back and consolidated around the DSR's price
[08:01 am] michael : right on
[08:02 am] apple : yes, i just wish i knew about the swing ideas while we are in the chat room, then i could make a better decision
[08:02 am] michael : Derns, great price on your GS short
[08:02 am] khall : I agree Apple, that would be helpful
[08:02 am] scalpman : thanks guys....
[08:02 am] michael : I'm with you Apple
[08:03 am] derns : Thx Michael...I wish it were live..it was simulation...adjusted stop at 101.40 as of now
[08:03 am] apple : i feel like sometimes i might have missed something during the day...
[08:03 am] doji : Didn't Mitch said he was working on new swing ideas through the Trading Room? I think he asked our opinion for new ideas before
[08:04 am] lightning : I agree apple. It would be helpful if he was posting swing entries and exits in real time.
[08:04 am] michael : Mitch grabs great prices, I always see what I missed after I see what he gets
[08:04 am] khall : yep, gives me stock envy :-)
[08:04 am] eyes : I thought that was supposed to have happened 3 months ago
[08:04 am] apple : lol khall, agree
[08:04 am] doji : SPY dropping
[08:06 am] storage : Nice call on GS derns[08:06 am] michael : Derns, your GS is at critical area now, gonna go one way or the other
[08:06 am] eyes : GS
[08:06 am] apple : nice call on NUGT B
[08:06 am] derns : Thx...simulation teaches me something, but no lunch from the winnings
[08:08 am] michael : I did GS earlier when we talked, but only got 101.01 to 100.78
[08:09 am] derns : out of GS on my simulation
[08:10 am] doji : weak rebound in the SPY
[08:11 am] anthonyb : TNA might be a good long scalp soon
[08:12 am] derns : Starting at 8 am (11 am est), the CNBC connection I have goes to London for an hour..I get interesting and better insight to the EU issues..they seem much more honest than US commentators
[08:12 am] michael : L HRB @ 14.71
[08:13 am] anthonyb : so derns, do they seem more optimistic, or more pessimistic/
[08:14 am] derns : Anthonyb...I think they are more critical of the situation...currently, more skeptical of the outcome..i.e., concerned
[08:15 am] anthonyb : gotcha
[08:15 am] apple : derns, you are lucky, it would be nice to have a different point of view
[08:16 am] derns : Apple..someone posted this link several weeks ago..try it:
[08:16 am] derns : http://www.rentadrone.tv/cnbc-live-stream/
[08:17 am] derns : This gives US CNBC throughout the morning except from 8 am to 9 am (west coast time)..it gives the London/EU CNBC broadcast
[08:18 am] khall : thanks derns[08:18 am] derns : Michael...I'm watching your entry on HRB at 14.71..I like it..wish I had entered
[08:19 am] derns : your welcome Khall..but I have to forward the thx to whomever originally posted it some time ago..I really don't have many original ideas
[08:19 am] michael : lot of resistance at 15, I'm gonna get out here
[08:20 am] derns : nice trade Michael
[08:21 am] doji : SPY moving up
[08:26 am] derns : Michael..great call on your timing now...you called it!
[08:30 am] anthonyb : I'd like to get 2 more right today, I've been wrong more than that
[08:31 am] derns : same here anthony...like Apple says, tho, the day is young...hopefully that doesn't mean getting more than 2 wrong
[08:35 am] chris1 : I shorted val for .30 gain
[08:36 am] Ed : nice job chris[08:36 am] Brent : nice trade Chris
[08:36 am] michael : GS trying to move up
[08:38 am] chris1 : Sorry guys,,, I have a sell order in for .30... stock didn't go that low yet.
[08:38 am] shark : SFLY Director bought 35K shares at $26.97-27.99 on 11/30, worth ~$970K
[08:41 am] anthonyb : doing my "bear market death dance" if we break this support than I know it works
[08:42 am] joeytsa : nice anthony hah
[08:42 am] mhaus : UVV
[08:45 am] joeytsa : just read that Doug Kass said that house and senate repubs are crafting a bill to stop the IMF bailout of europe...taking that with a grain of salt
[08:47 am] storage : Dish
[08:48 am] joeytsa : daytrading/reaction skills have been working...swing trading had been non-existent
[08:48 am] apple : nice on DISH, storage
[08:50 am] khall : nflx[08:50 am] khall : dropping
[08:50 am] anthonyb : die, nflx, DIE!
[08:51 am] joeytsa : nice downtrend in the market past 20+ minutes
[08:51 am] shark : SPY nearing 125 level
[08:53 am] doji : Longs have not worked for me today... first day in red after almost 3 weeks...
[08:53 am] joeytsa : its happens. Just keep those losses small
[08:53 am] joeytsa : doji: don't forget to watch that webinar i told you about
[08:54 am] apple : doji, today is not your day, so far... but there is still time!
[08:54 am] shark : which one, joey? am I up to date on all the one's you sent out?
[08:54 am] joeytsa : all traders can/should watch it...
[08:54 am] joeytsa : its free at lightspeed...
[08:54 am] shark : the 3 u recommended?
[08:55 am] joeytsa : different one shark
[08:55 am] apple : i saw your post too, joey, i will watch it.
[08:55 am] apple : what were the others?
[08:55 am] Ed : it happens doji, just take break, relax, refocus
[08:55 am] doji : Won't try to take revenge... unless a good setup arise
[08:55 am] joeytsa : "Trading Psychology-Peak Performance Evaluation"
[08:55 am] anthonyb : can you watch it if you are not a lightspeed user?
[08:56 am] qwert : joey is it the trading psychology- peak performance
[08:56 am] joeytsa : you should be able to
[08:56 am] doji : Yes Ed, will go for a walk... my internet connectivity is just killing me today, had to turn of the modem 3 times
[08:56 am] qwert : oh you already answered
[08:56 am] joeytsa : it's about an hour...
[08:56 am] qwert : thx
[08:57 am] joeytsa : going to watch it again with my notes next to me later today
[08:57 am] apple : joey, what were the other videos?
[08:58 am] shark : Pivot Point Trading - aaple[08:58 am] joeytsa : apple: they are all good, the Pivot Point one, Mastering Momentum trading
[08:59 am] joeytsa : watch them all, except for the platform ones unless you use lightspeed[08:59 am] qwert : joey do you use lightspeeds charts or e-signal
[08:59 am] joeytsa : lightspeed charts and also streetsmartedge charts
[08:59 am] anthonyb : i like that you still strive to be a better trader even after all these years
[09:00 am] joeytsa : the more i learn, the more i realize how much i don't know
[09:00 am] anthonyb : same here
[09:02 am] joeytsa : i watch and learn, and see traders making specific entries/exits...and lots of time i just jump all in or out
[09:02 am] apple : i know what you mean, joey, there is always so much more... i just need to carve out the time to watch. i have to spend time with my son.
[09:02 am] anthonyb : I made my first trade in 1981. I was like 14 years old. I bought MAT at 7 1/8 lol sold it for 11 something and bought a new motorcycle
[09:02 am] apple : cool, ab, that's great!
[09:02 am] anthonyb : huge commissions
[09:03 am] anthonyb : back then
[09:03 am] apple : but you did good!
[09:03 am] joeytsa : after all of these years, i can't believe i ever traded without pivot points...just started using them very recently, making a huge difference
[09:03 am] anthonyb : do you have a pivot calculator joey?
[09:03 am] joeytsa : pt 2 of the Momentum trading webinar is on 12/14 at 1:30 pst[09:03 am] joeytsa : i have a site that does it..I'm not that advanced
[09:04 am] joeytsa : i see a line and go from there hah
[09:04 am] anthonyb : I can send you a link for a free one. Just plug in your numbers and hit enter
[09:04 am] joeytsa : i have one actually
[09:04 am] anthonyb : ok
[09:05 am] bopphaley : Trying to set up TS and I am so confused I feel frozen in time. There are so many options. I've read and watched all of the videos and lost 3 trading days because I'm now feeling more incompetent than I did with simple little Scottrade that I complained about because it was so simplistic. The charts are tough. Can't see enough without opening them larger than I want - and can't have enough open. Maybe I'm trying too hard. I know it will get better. Must be the Friday blues?! And, you're all having such great fun!
[09:05 am] joeytsa : just trying to really master support/res, keep my risk/reward sensible
[09:06 am] trvlntrdr : joey that webinar is recorded-- we can download it any time right?
[09:06 am] joeytsa : as far as i know trv..i don't log on to watch them
[09:06 am] trvlntrdr : ok -- just wanted to make sure. also, so people know they can watch any time
[09:07 am] anthonyb : khall, I will send this weekend and also to derns[09:07 am] derns : thx
[09:09 am] Brent : probably just need to get used to it bopphaley, or you have a setting wrong somewhere, scaling or something.
[09:09 am] anthonyb : i would just post the link here, buts its on my other computer
[09:09 am] joeytsa : CHTR interesting spike
[09:10 am] bopphaley : Yes, Brent. I'm sure. I'll give support a call when I have all my questions together. Thanks.
[09:10 am] mhaus : anthonyb, could you send me a copy too? Maybe, you could cc Bernt and he can add it to the documents folder.
[09:10 am] khall : LNKD
[09:11 am] khall : keeps going down -
[09:11 am] anthonyb : http://www.ampfutures.com/ppc.html
[09:11 am] anthonyb : there is the link
[09:12 am] joeytsa : Mitch : just for the record, GREAT call on GS swing..we mentioned upper 90's -$100 as potential target
[09:12 am] joeytsa : you nailed that one
[09:12 am] qwert : thnx anthony got it
[09:14 am] scalpman : Time to go...see you all monday...
[09:15 am] Brent : have a good one Scalpman[09:15 am] anthonyb : cya scalpman[09:18 am] joeytsa : oil wiggling between 99.80-100.50 areas all morning
[09:18 am] michael : have you traded it Joey?
[09:19 am] joeytsa : no michael, just switched to the chart to see what's going on
[09:19 am] joeytsa : seemed very tradeable both on the 150 and 578 tick
[09:19 am] storage : Apple did you get any of the DISH trade I got a little 2%
[09:20 am] michael : I hear ya. I've wanted to but the moves have been so quick and unsure
[09:20 am] apple : no, i didn't storage, you did good!
[09:21 am] joeytsa : the way my charts are set up, the 578 really gave some nice trades on the CL
[09:21 am] trvlntrdr : I started trading oil yesterday. Very exciting
[09:22 am] joeytsa : makes nice moves...going to be some big moves if/when Iran does something
[09:22 am] Ed : one can always skew numbers for ones benefit; unemployment #
[09:22 am] joeytsa : amen ed[09:22 am] michael : makes sense Joey
[09:23 am] michael : trvl, you liking oil?
[09:23 am] trvlntrdr : I have noticed that oil is somewhat moving with the spy and euro. Although euro today is weaker
[09:23 am] trvlntrdr : Yes I have been dipping my toes in it.
[09:23 am] trvlntrdr : 1 contract is enough for me
[09:23 am] joeytsa : lots going on over there..not much in the news though hmmm
[09:24 am] joeytsa : even trump piped in
[09:24 am] apple : good for you trv[09:24 am] trvlntrdr : well if something happens in iran, it won't just be the oil markets affected
[09:24 am] joeytsa : agreed
[09:25 am] joeytsa : quick guess would be oil to $200 overnight though
[09:25 am] trvlntrdr : I sim traded CL before trading for real. it is quite volatile.
[09:25 am] michael : for real Joey?
[09:25 am] joeytsa : just a guess...depends on what actually happens...
[09:25 am] trvlntrdr : I think he means if a war in Iran
[09:26 am] joeytsa : those countries are throwing words right now
[09:26 am] apple : next comes stones
[09:27 am] joeytsa : warships moving into the Mediterranean from what i read
[09:27 am] joeytsa : i take what i read with a grain of salt also though
[09:28 am] joeytsa : i just try to use all the info i get and plot my next moves in each situation that might come up...just like i do when i enter a daytrade[09:28 am] apple : MON lod[09:29 am] joeytsa : just try to not get caught off guard
[09:29 am] anthonyb : guys, I need to close out, I'm getting a migraine and have about 20mns before i can't see. see you monday[09:30 am] Ed : see ya anthonyb[09:30 am] apple : feel better, ab, have a good weekend.
[09:31 am] joeytsa : ULTA breaking below consolidation area
[09:31 am] joeytsa : on higher vol[09:32 am] apple : E - what are you looking at now?
[09:32 am] Ed : just scouring the universe for idea
[09:33 am] apple : ok, just checking, let us know...
[09:33 am] Ed : rather high probability trade
[09:33 am] joeytsa : CME down over $8 since the hod[09:34 am] michael : lulu been consolidating, trying to move up, should if can get over 50
[09:34 am] joeytsa : looking for a quick short on JOYG on next sign of weakness
[09:38 am] trvlntrdr : might see some action-- I think the euro is going down again,
[09:41 am] trvlntrdr : euro is "coiling" might break out to upside instead of down although down would be the normal direction
[09:42 am] joeytsa : trv: you looking at the future or etf?
[09:42 am] trvlntrdr : future
[09:42 am] trvlntrdr : dec contract
[09:42 am] joeytsa : 6e ?
[09:42 am] trvlntrdr : yes 6e 12-11
[09:42 am] joeytsa : gotya[09:43 am] trvlntrdr : I forgot that there are small differences in price on the various instrument
[09:43 am] trvlntrdr : but still if it goes down the spy usually does too, and vice/versa
[09:44 am] joeytsa : good to keep an eye on
[09:45 am] trvlntrdr : yes i try to see if one gives a heads up about the other but they really seem in sync.
[09:45 am] joeytsa : like timing a TNA/TZA trade with a move on the IWM
[09:46 am] trvlntrdr : IWM?
[09:47 am] joeytsa : Russell 2000 etf/index
[09:47 am] trvlntrdr : ok I got it
[09:48 am] trvlntrdr : well maybe the euro isn't going to do anything exciting, just slither up
[09:49 am] joeytsa : quick pop on the ES
[09:49 am] trvlntrdr : I wrote too soon
[09:51 am] michael : consolidation on lulu is really narrowing
[09:51 am] mhaus : PVH
[09:54 am] kittel1 : what is "trendline support"?
[09:54 am] michael : pvh good one mhaus[09:55 am] trvlntrdr : kittelm I think he means the short term trendline from the past hour on the spy
[09:55 am] trvlntrdr : connect the lows since 1150 EST
[09:59 am] skydiver : S PVH 73.71
[10:00 am] joeytsa : PVH nice
[10:00 am] skydiver : Thanks mhaus for heads up on PVH
[10:00 am] eyes : ORI
[10:00 am] joeytsa : rumored spanish bank downgrade?
[10:03 am] skydiver : Had to leave to do some banking and came back - shorted PVH and covered 73.50 for fast $ :)
[10:03 am] apple : good one, sky
[10:04 am] skydiver : multi-tasking at its best - mow yard - take break - make money - rake leaves - come back - make money
[10:04 am] skydiver : :)
[10:04 am] skydiver : thanks apple - thnx to mhaus on that one!!
[10:04 am] joeytsa : nice
[10:04 am] apple : yes, thx mhaus[10:12 am] joeytsa : tighten stop if you took that JOYG short
[10:14 am] michael : DE doesn't meet fade requirement but could be worth a little money on a bottom
[10:15 am] joeytsa : die JOYG die !!!
[10:15 am] joeytsa : taking half here
[10:16 am] chinhngo : SHORT JOYG AT 90.38
[10:17 am] michael : Ed, I wasn't making a comment on your post, mine just came out at the same time
[10:17 am] joeytsa : stopped last half
[10:18 am] Ed : nice trade joey
[10:19 am] joeytsa : went s @ 90.87, took half 90.41, last half stopped 90.48
[10:19 am] skydiver : Nice joey :)
[10:19 am] joeytsa : took forever to set up...think i posted the watch right around 9;30 pst[10:20 am] michael : you were way paitent[10:20 am] joeytsa : hahaa..9:34 actually
[10:20 am] joeytsa : i rarely have patience like that
[10:22 am] skydiver : Humm - NFLX been slowly climbing all day
[10:34 am] monster : zmh[10:40 am] richard : UGI
[10:43 am] khall : mouthwatering even...
[10:44 am] dan : Brent, any thought on INHX?
[10:49 am] lightning : HCA
[10:59 am] michael : UHS
[11:01 am] qwert : cop
[11:05 am] lightning : wow I really played ZMH poorly.
[11:05 am] mhaus : JPM
[11:05 am] mhaus : ALEX
[11:06 am] doji : ZMH weak rebound
[11:07 am] doji : Volume and price have decelerated
[11:17 am] rickdparsons : Hello, first time here...
[11:17 am] doji : Hi Rick Parsons
[11:17 am] khall : welcome rick
[11:17 am] lightning : hey Rick
[11:17 am] doji : Welcome to the Trading Room , TSA
[11:17 am] Brent : welcome Rick
[11:18 am] rickdparsons : hey all !!
[11:18 am] apple : welcome to the chat room, rick, you will like it here...
[11:18 am] khall : My end of year reading just arrived: Trading in the Zone, Technical Analysis Explained, Technical Analysis from A to Z, and Technical Analysis of the Financial Market
[11:19 am] Brent : have you been in all day, or just now rick?
[11:19 am] rickdparsons : Just now and watching.
[11:19 am] doji : Mitch still believing there money left in STJ long?
[11:19 am] Ed : welcome to the room rickdparsons[11:19 am] michael : just got in ZMH @ 48.80 long
[11:19 am] Brent : ok, this time of day is slow. Most of the action is first two hours of the morning
[11:20 am] Brent : but occasionally we get a little flurry like we just had
[11:20 am] michael : out ZMH 48.97
[11:21 am] doji : ZMH, HCA, UHS, STJ reversing
[11:21 am] rickdparsons : once we enter, do we setup stops on our platform?
[11:21 am] Brent : yes always use a stop
[11:22 am] Mitch K: doji, STJ could bounce again, not as good of odds on 2nd attempt up. if it does not go below to new low, then STJ should bounce
[11:22 am] Mitch K: but not even 1% profit potential [11:22 am] rickdparsons : what are rules for setting stops?
[11:23 am] doji : Below the previous low/high if you are going long/short Rick
[11:23 am] doji : avoid round numbers
[11:24 am] Brent : It depends on the strategy rick, we post lots of different ideas, but generally I like to have my stop beyond support/resistance areas.
[11:24 am] victor51 : i am still L on DE and MMM
[11:25 am] doji : STJ, UHS, HCA more dropping
[11:25 am] Ed : have u taken any profits yet victor?
[11:25 am] Mitch K: looking good on both victor 51
[11:26 am] joeytsa : MDT alert
[11:27 am] richard : mdt[11:27 am] doji : 34.6 support MDT
[11:28 am] joeytsa : HCA another one
[11:31 am] victor51 : both has limit order
[11:32 am] rickdparsons : Is it ok to ask questions or is there a better time to do so?
[11:32 am] joeytsa : great short on STJ...good call
[11:33 am] lightning : watching MAKO as well
[11:34 am] joeytsa : closing HCA long
[11:34 am] joeytsa : got in a little late on that one
[11:35 am] saral : mdt was too quick
[11:36 am] joeytsa : yeah saral, i missed that
[11:36 am] michael : saral, on some of those like that one, going to tick chart can help see it coming
[11:38 am] joeytsa : welcome to the room rickdparsons[11:38 am] rickdparsons : thanks, Joeysa[11:39 am] rickdparsons : Do you guys use limit or market orders?
[11:39 am] Brent : The only market order I use is for Stops rick
[11:39 am] apple : always use limit
[11:39 am] Brent : everything else is limit
[11:41 am] rickdparsons : LOL, ok, thanks!
[11:41 am] rickdparsons : it will take me a while to figure the details here.
[11:42 am] joeytsa : yeah, takes a little bit...first hour is really hectic
[11:43 am] Brent : feel free to ask questions, slower times are better to answer. If your question doesn't get answered, don't be offended, just means things are busy. There are a lot of helpful people in this room. Joey's pretty good too
[11:43 am] joeytsa : :)
[11:43 am] rickdparsons : thanks, Brent!
[11:44 am] joeytsa : rick..the mods here are top notch, you made a good decision by being here
[11:45 am] Ed : victor if still long mmm, look to take some profits, tighten stop
[11:45 am] victor51 : Thanks. Out of DE but still trying to get few pennies with tight limit on MMM
[11:45 am] Ed : good deal
[11:45 am] lightning : out 1/2 MDT
[11:46 am] joeytsa : just don't trip over pennies while trying to pick up dollars :)
[11:46 am] joeytsa : i think that was good ole Wade Cook who said that haha[11:46 am] lightning : out a little more MDT
[11:47 am] lightning : GRPN may be setting up for a long
[11:47 am] aussie123 : Couple of fat fingers on TNA today
[11:48 am] michael : GRPN should offer bounce soon
[11:48 am] doji : STJ, thanks Mitch second leg long
[11:49 am] doji : from 36.31 to 36.75
[11:49 am] apple : thx MK, K, B, E and everyone for a wonderful day. All have a great weekend. See you on Monday.
[11:49 am] Ed : have great weekend apple
[11:49 am] Brent : have a good night apple
[11:52 am] aussie123 : Couple of fat fingers on TNA today....it moved 80 to 90 cents on a 1 min. chart????
[11:52 am] Brent : looks like a bad tick aussie[11:55 am] lightning : stopped GRPN long
[11:55 am] aussie123 : Brent: do they just throw those out or would they still trigger a stop??
[11:56 am] joeytsa : closing MDT
[11:56 am] Brent : they shouldn't trigger a stop when you are live. Might trigger a stop on SIM though
[11:56 am] doji : Mitch, STJ is like a book chart, have a predictable pattern of short and longs, right?
[11:57 am] Mitch K: yes doji[11:58 am] joeytsa : i bet some really quick traders took 5 trades on STJ
[11:58 am] richard : BSX
[11:58 am] rickdparsons : what is a "book chart"?
[11:58 am] doji : I took just two
[11:59 am] doji : I'd say a stock that follow its indicator on the long and short side
[11:59 am] doji : See the stochastics in STJ Rick
[11:59 am] joeytsa : rick... he might mean textbook
[12:00 pm] doji : and if you use the 1min chart, the buy/sell entry are crystal clear
[12:00 pm] aussie123 : Brent, I"m live but did not have a position in TNA at the time.
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : aussie, it looks like that low on TNA registered
[12:01 pm] doji : Now long is TSJ
[12:02 pm] doji : Just very quick, small trade although
[12:02 pm] doji : as resistance is at 36.22, if it break, then you got a winner, if not, you close at b/e[12:03 pm] Brent : ok aussie, shouldn't affect you if you were in it
[12:03 pm] doji : b/e for STJ is for me at 36.05
[12:06 pm] doji : All or nothing in STJ here
[12:08 pm] joeytsa : since hitting $102, it's been all downhill for GS
[12:09 pm] qwert : gmcr[12:09 pm] joeytsa : VOLC
[12:10 pm] doji : support at 23.3
[12:11 pm] doji : all out STJ at 23.22
[12:11 pm] joeytsa : thanks brent, but just realized i got the 1st alert at 24.20 and didn't pay it any attention
[12:11 pm] joeytsa : miss a nice short
[12:12 pm] Brent : yeah, oh well
[12:15 pm] doji : VOLC needs to drop more
[12:16 pm] doji : and volume has diminished
[12:17 pm] rickdparsons : what time frame are the charts in the chat room?
[12:17 pm] doji : 2min,
[12:17 pm] doji : it is included within the stock name in brackets
[12:17 pm] rickdparsons : Ah...thanks!
[12:18 pm] Ed : i would have liked more if it got more of push higher on gmcr[12:20 pm] doji : VOLC broke S3
[12:21 pm] doji : Long VOLC, small position
[12:21 pm] lightning : MAKO
[12:24 pm] qwert : bye everybody have an awesome weekend see ya all on monday morning
[12:24 pm] Ed : have a great weekend qwert [12:25 pm] lightning : L 1/2 VOLC
[12:29 pm] joeytsa : STJ still giving it up
[12:30 pm] doji : I Got distracted on STJ, thanks Joey
[12:31 pm] doji : Big candle in SPY
[12:31 pm] joeytsa : its happens doji, i missed that last up/down in HCA
[12:32 pm] rickdparsons : Do most of you "old timers" use more than one monitor on your PC?
[12:32 pm] lightning : yes, I have 3
[12:33 pm] doji : Have three + one laptop
[12:33 pm] rickdparsons : Do many use ThinkorSwim?
[12:33 pm] lisas : yes rick
[12:33 pm] lisas : have 4, plus laptop for room
[12:34 pm] doji : I use TOS Lisas[12:35 pm] michael :. I use TOS Rick for charts
[12:37 pm] eyes : Good Night Everyone
[12:37 pm] Ed : take care eyes
[12:37 pm] rickdparsons : Is this chat room open after hours or weekends?
[12:37 pm] joeytsa : sometimes afterhours for a little bit, not on weekends
[12:37 pm] doji : STJ long, thanks Joey
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : no prob[12:39 pm] joeytsa : rick: also, premarket, you can log into the room, but usually cant type or anything until a mod enters
[12:39 pm] lightning : no Rick, only from about 30 minutes before market to maybe 30 minutes after
[12:39 pm] rickdparsons : ok
[12:40 pm] joeytsa : if the chat charts are too big on your screen, click on the middle box on top to the left of the chart to make them smaller
[12:40 pm] rickdparsons : Thanks for the tip!
[12:41 pm] lightning : I out 1/2 VOLC long....it just isn't moving
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : it looks like 4 arrows pointing towards the middle?
[12:41 pm] doji : All out STJ
[12:41 pm] doji : STJ Short here
[12:41 pm] doji : 35.75
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : i only took the long, skipping the short
[12:41 pm] doji : tight stop, playing now with the house's money
[12:43 pm] rickdparsons : Is there any written documentation I can read over the weekend on these chat room methods?
[12:43 pm] lightning : of course, now that I'm out 1/2 my VOLC it starts to move, lol[12:45 pm] lisas : rick, not sure what the trial entails, but TSA has some videos usually
[12:45 pm] joeytsa : VPHM interesting spike
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : SPY lod[12:46 pm] doji : Git than Mitch, thanks, tighten my stop in STJ
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : broke thru 125
[12:46 pm] lisas : check with TSA again, they're probably busy right now.
[12:46 pm] doji : STJ was the cash cow today
[12:47 pm] rickdparsons : So most of you follow the Stochastic?
[12:48 pm] rickdparsons : Just trying to figure out the optimum setup for trading...
[12:51 pm] joeytsa : 1242 area really trying to hold on the ES
[12:52 pm] joeytsa : dow still holding 12k
[12:54 pm] doji : Close STJ with 3 cents lose.... but what a ride!
[12:54 pm] joeytsa : writing it down Mitch
[12:57 pm] doji : Don't break your rules Mitch, not trades close to end of the day
[12:57 pm] doji : unless it is obviously you
[12:58 pm] doji : That was the short covering you mentioned before
[01:00 pm] joeytsa : quick move on ES last minute
[01:00 pm] rickdparsons : thanks for helping out fellas!
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