Chat Highlights From 11/29/2012

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[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching BECN for bottom
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching SMTC for trades both ways
[06:30 am] Mitch K: TKR gapping down
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching RAX for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching WDAY for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching DDD for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching RPM for top
[06:37 am] Ed : Advanced trade monitor KSS/TIF for break of lod with vol for potential short
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching ENTR for short,
[06:40 am] Mitch K: missed LQDT bottom but more upside, trades both ways today
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching BKS for bottom
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching GES for bottom
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching GIL for short on top of this rebound
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching ORLY for top to short
[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching ULTA for short top of this bounce, take time
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching OCN for top
[06:47 am] Mitch K: looking to sell WDAY soon, watching for short on top of bounce
[06:49 am] Mitch K: WDAY toppy
[06:49 am] Mitch K: little late on JWN though
[06:49 am] Mitch K: microshort on JWN here
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching AN for bottom
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching CREE for bottom
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching ILMN for short, need little rebound first
[06:56 am] Mitch K: monitor AAP for trades both ways, next one is a short on top of bounce
[06:58 am] Mitch K: looking for 51.30 area to cover WDAY, use limit orders, big spread
[06:59 am] Mitch K: steep rebound on KSS, looking for exit of long
[06:59 am] Ed : if we get some consolidation in AMZN under 250 monitor for breakout timing with breakout in SPY use 250.38 with strong vol
[07:03 am] Mitch K: looking for 51.50 area on ILMN shorrt
[07:06 am] Mitch K: micro short in JAZZ here
[07:06 am] Mitch K: new surge in KSS rebound
[07:08 am] Mitch K: still looking for short in KSS
[07:09 am] Ed : nice drop in SPY
[07:09 am] Ed : cont. to monitor TIF for potential short break lod with vol
[07:11 am] Mitch K: Euro dropping hard
[07:11 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[07:12 am] Mitch K: more downside on KSS, CREE
[07:15 am] Mitch K: looking for AN sell exit soon
[07:16 am] Mitch K: watching ULTA for more downside
[07:16 am] Mitch K: watching to see if ORLY goes below 92, should keep going if it does
[07:18 am] Mitch K: forgot to post SMTC top, more downside
[07:21 am] Ed : monitor the 90.77area on MLM see how reacts there for potential short setup
[07:26 am] Mitch K: HLF good long chart soon, waiting longer
[07:26 am] Mitch K: watching NUS for bounce
[07:32 am] Mitch K: too late to buy NUS but watching for top to short
[07:35 am] Mitch K: both Herbal Life (HLF) and Nuskin (NUS) are network marketing companies for personal goods,
[07:37 am] Mitch K: NUS toppy
[08:24 am] Ed : BBY alert thx murano
[08:31 am] Ed : nice one joey
[08:42 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[08:50 am] Ed : getting bounce in SPY
[09:03 am] Ed : would monitor USNA for more selling for setup of potential long
[09:06 am] Ed : USNA being mentioned cautiously by Citron research
[09:09 am] Ed : thx sman for USNA
[09:33 am] Ed : ist still early but the prize of today goes to sman and murano
[09:34 am] Mitch K: hey sman and murano, just a reminder . . . . you are only as good as your last stock pick
[09:35 am] Mitch K: lol, just teasing you
[10:04 am] Ed : much smaller range in SPY today
[10:14 am] Ed : FTC supposedly approves SBUX/TEA deal
[10:27 am] Ed : nice one joey on HTWR
[10:48 am] Mitch K: starting to watch CVLT for bottom
[10:54 am] Mitch K: what happened to that stock yesterday that was halted on buy rumor,?  something like RTLF  cant remember symbol
[11:09 am] Mitch K: if you covered CVLT on top of that last bounce, consider covering soon
[11:10 am] Mitch K: FB toppy
[11:38 am] Ed : WLL no longer looking for sale of co
[11:40 am] Ed : had price change of 10% within 5min
[11:40 am] Ed : we have a volatility trading halt on WLL
[11:49 am] Ed : nice bounce in many stocks
[11:53 am] Mitch K: CVLT pumping out a lot of micro trades
[12:35 pm] Ed : would monitor WLL and KSS for potential continuation of weakness 2morrow
[12:38 pm] Ed : M another one for cont. weakness
[12:38 pm] Ed : BIDU for potential continued strenght needs strong vol
[01:00 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders
[01:17 pm] Mitch K: later guys, we are sending more info on webinar shortly

[05:59 am] taco  : good morning all
[05:59 am] mikewd2 -: good morning traders
[06:02 am] khall  : good morning all
[06:04 am] qwert  : good morning everybody
[06:07 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Mitch, everyone
[06:07 am] joeytsa  : gap downs: ASML,LQDT,TIF,KSS,TGT
[06:08 am] joeytsa  : ASML just got some buying
[06:08 am] joeytsa  : gap up: RIMM,CYMI,AAPL,BLOX,RIO
[06:09 am] taco  : ty joey
[06:09 am] joeytsa  : pending home sales @ 7pdt, nat gas 7:30pdt
[06:09 am] qwert  : thx joey
[06:10 am] joeytsa  : earlier reports basically flat
[06:12 am] joeytsa  : TIF,TGT,GAP,M all down on weaker sales or outlooks
[06:14 am] khall  : thanks Joey
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : :)
[06:15 am] apple  : good morning to all awesome traders
[06:16 am] apple  : gm joey
[06:16 am] apple  : gm qwert
[06:16 am] joeytsa  : hi apple
[06:16 am] apple  : gm taco
[06:16 am] apple  : gm mike
[06:16 am] mikewd2 -: hi apple
[06:16 am] qwert  : gm apple
[06:16 am] doji  : Hi fellas... just connected to say hello... busy day here
[06:17 am] mikewd2 -: doji: should have turned down the promotion, costing you money by not trading as much! haha
[06:17 am] apple  : gm doji
[06:18 am] apple  : he needs the title
[06:18 am] khall  : gm apple
[06:18 am] apple  : nice gap up onAAPL this morning
[06:18 am] apple  : gm MK
[06:18 am] taco  : morning apple
[06:19 am] apple  : taco, how's it going
[06:19 am] taco  : it's good, gaining understanding of my "edge" thanks:)
[06:19 am] apple  : well you are well on your way
[06:19 am] taco  : hows it on your end?
[06:19 am] apple  : fantastic!
[06:19 am] taco  : awesome!
[06:20 am] apple  : it is
[06:20 am] taco  : lol
[06:20 am] mikewd2 -: watching KSS for further weakness
[06:21 am] joeytsa  : real nice run on crude
[06:21 am] qwert  : yeah CL nice
[06:22 am] apple  : right joey nice jump since 9 am
[06:22 am] reshef  : G.morning
[06:22 am] taco  : hi reshef
[06:22 am] mikewd2 -: WTI up almost 2 bucks go oil!!
[06:23 am] apple  : gm reshef
[06:23 am] apple  : you da man, mike
[06:23 am] reshef  : Hi Taco
[06:23 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:23 am] apple  : hey lisa gm
[06:24 am] khall  : gm lisa
[06:24 am] ticktrader  : GM Traders
[06:25 am] cowboyh  : Morning all......... hey what is the indentifier for crude oil I dont do futures mush
[06:25 am] cowboyh  : mush is much
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : CL
[06:25 am] apple  : hey cowboy you mush you!
[06:25 am] cowboyh  : lol apple
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : using the 01-13 contract
[06:25 am] apple  : in TS it's @CL and the contract
[06:26 am] cowboyh  : Ok thanks guys  dont have to much fun today
[06:26 am] apple  : we have fun everyday, too much or not!
[06:27 am] khall  : no such thing as too much fun
[06:27 am] cowboyh  : thats  part of what great about being here
[06:27 am] apple  : 2 winners in the powerball!!
[06:28 am] khall  : how cool is that?
[06:29 am] sman  : gm everyone
[06:29 am] mikewd2 -: AAP gap down
[06:30 am] sman  : AVB
[06:31 am] elisha  : GM Mitch, Ed and everyone
[06:31 am] apple  : gm elisha
[06:31 am] apple  : gm sman
[06:32 am] elisha  : gm apple - congrats on all your success!
[06:32 am] apple  : thanks.
[06:32 am] elisha  : and on yours too, taco
[06:34 am] apple  : AMZN took off
[06:34 am] joeytsa  : ES testing R1
[06:35 am] victor51  : gm all
[06:36 am] shark  : TIF
[06:36 am] apple  : gm victor
[06:37 am] apple  : gm sharky
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : mike: did you get AAP, nice call
[06:37 am] mikewd2 -: nope
[06:38 am] apple  : mike, i thought you did, too.
[06:38 am] joeytsa  : nice on WDAY Mitch
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: IACI
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : crude testing hod
[06:44 am] mikewd2 -: watching ACAD
[06:45 am] mikewd2 -: PLCN call was good idea yesterday
[06:45 am] apple  : AMZN on fire
[06:45 am] mikewd2 -: didn't go into it though
[06:45 am] mikewd2 -: PCLN that is
[06:45 am] apple  : didn't look at it mike
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : missed PLL bottom
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : BLOX still strong
[06:46 am] skydiver  : short ENTR 5.53
[06:46 am] apple  : gm sky
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : AGQ moving too
[06:47 am] skydiver  : gm apple :)
[06:47 am] skydiver  : all ouit of ENTR  - small profit
[06:47 am] mikewd2 -: decent move on NS, my divi stock
[06:48 am] taco  : thanks elisha, from earlier:)
[06:50 am] elisha  : '')
[06:52 am] joeytsa  : watch AMZN for break over $250
[06:52 am] apple  : i am joey, i am
[06:52 am] apple  : AAPl consolidating
[06:53 am] apple  : AAPL
[06:55 am] joeytsa  : GES bouncing off $26
[06:56 am] taco  : watching KSS
[06:58 am] skydiver  : STX and WDC mentioned cautiously by Cleveland Research - not sure what that means . . . but just off the wire
[06:58 am] apple  : thx sky
[06:59 am] mikewd2 -: disk drives weak do to pc sales down
[06:59 am] skydiver  : thnx Mike
[06:59 am] apple  : hey E, gm
[06:59 am] joeytsa  : PLL moving a bit
[07:00 am] Ed : gm apple
[07:00 am] joeytsa  : KSS nice
[07:01 am] apple  : GOOG also on fire
[07:01 am] joeytsa  : ES moving up
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL bounced off support pivot
[07:03 am] joeytsa  : decent home sales # it looks like
[07:03 am] elisha  : Ed, what criteria did you use to pinpoint 250.38 on AMZN?  Thanks
[07:04 am] Ed : just picking a number far enough from 250 to try and keep away from false breakout. Vol is key, its all about probability, the longer the consolidaiton under 250 the better
[07:05 am] elisha  : thanks again
[07:05 am] Ed : no problem
[07:05 am] joeytsa  : just gave pullback to $249 area
[07:05 am] apple  : elisha, it's a little over 30 cents to ensure that it is a solid breakout
[07:05 am] Ed : nice quick short to it offered, did not see till too late
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : missed it also Ed
[07:06 am] apple  : too busy talking E
[07:06 am] Ed : will wait for 10 bagger from joey
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : haha
[07:06 am] elisha  : sorry guys, i forgot about the 60 - 90 min thing
[07:07 am] apple  : oh, no, elisha, it is fine
[07:07 am] Ed : ur fine
[07:07 am] apple  : yeah, joey the pressure is on you now
[07:08 am] joeytsa  : :)
[07:08 am] skydiver  : FFIV - monitoring
[07:08 am] joeytsa  : CREE still weak
[07:09 am] joeytsa  : 6pt drop on teh ES
[07:09 am] apple  : wow, took my eyes off it... better look at it again
[07:09 am] shark  : watching TIF for new lod
[07:09 am] joeytsa  : crude dropping too
[07:10 am] joeytsa  : AAPL lod
[07:10 am] doji  : Back for 5minutes....
[07:10 am] apple  : we will miss you doji
[07:10 am] doji  : I thoughg today would be a crazy rally from the open
[07:11 am] Ed : elisha this is also where timing with SPY helps keep u out of trouble as well. SPY made new hod but lack the punch and vol to continue
[07:11 am] doji  : and APPL is selling off from the 594 levels
[07:11 am] apple  : doji, it is filling its gap
[07:11 am] doji  : 586
[07:11 am] elisha  : thanks Ed
[07:11 am] doji  : does it have to?
[07:11 am] skydiver  : Republican talking now -- we are not close to a deal (Van Holen)
[07:12 am] apple  : that explains it!
[07:12 am] joeytsa  : thx sky
[07:12 am] skydiver  : look out below
[07:12 am] doji  : ah ok.... they each talk every day...
[07:12 am] skydiver  : wonder if Van Holen has lots of shorts on the table right now ?
[07:13 am] joeytsa  : 0bama/r0mney lunch today
[07:13 am] skydiver  : nice Mitch - Lightning chart
[07:13 am] apple  : lol sky, what do you think?
[07:13 am] skydiver  : naw
[07:13 am] skydiver  : that's good old Northern slang - means no
[07:13 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:14 am] apple  : haha i think they use it in the south and west as well
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : LULU trying to bottom
[07:15 am] skydiver  : and here I thought we northwesterners had something all to ourselves --
[07:15 am] doji  : Watch GES
[07:15 am] apple  : ha
[07:15 am] doji  : BLOX
[07:15 am] doji  : tripple top
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : BIDU dbl top
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : FFIV trying to hold support area
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : ES up about 3pts from bottom
[07:22 am] sman  : CBRL
[07:22 am] doji  : QCOR
[07:23 am] joeytsa  : watching NUS, nothing yet
[07:24 am] murano  : HLF
[07:29 am] shark  : PCLN nice breakdown off top
[07:29 am] shark  : hi apple :)
[07:29 am] joeytsa  : nice jump on ILMN
[07:29 am] apple  : ;)
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : UGAZ spike down
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : nat gas #'s coming out
[07:30 am] doji  : FB
[07:30 am] apple  : did HLF have earnings?
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : dont see them apple
[07:32 am] mikewd2 -: nat gas inventories increased 4bcf
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : apple: HLF earnings were last month
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : BLOX trying to push higher
[07:33 am] apple  : thx, wondered about that big drop, BLOX had earnings last night or before open today
[07:33 am] joeytsa  : yes
[07:33 am] skydiver  : just curious - but doeswn anyone know what ARDNA is?
[07:33 am] Ed : nice murano on HLF
[07:34 am] scalpman  : Sell 1/2 NUS L
[07:34 am] qwert  : Thx for HLF
[07:34 am] skydiver  : nice scalp
[07:34 am] taco  : ya good posts guys
[07:34 am] joeytsa  : Arden Group?
[07:34 am] regatta  : watching PIR
[07:35 am] skydiver  : yes joey -- quite the drop on it
[07:35 am] Ed : good eye regattta
[07:35 am] joeytsa  : tighten ILMN if short
[07:35 am] regatta  : thanks
[07:35 am] scalpman  : sello 1/4 NUS L
[07:36 am] apple  : yes, thx MK
[07:36 am] murano  : APKT
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : WDAY losing cons area
[07:39 am] sman  : HGSH
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: ACAD hod
[07:40 am] scalpman  : all out NUS L
[07:41 am] joeytsa  : AMZN inching back to $250
[07:41 am] shark  : yeah, testing hod area
[07:42 am] cowboyh  : TIF dropping
[07:42 am] shark  : Michael Kors rated as most searched designer retailer of the year -KORS
[07:49 am] apple  : met him years ago when he was first starting out
[07:50 am] victor51  : Murano thanls HLF. The guy with golden touch...all out
[07:53 am] shark  : thx murano, HLF +.75
[07:53 am] apple  : murano is great
[07:54 am] murano  : Thanks
[07:54 am] qwert  : AMZN at 250
[07:55 am] khall  : Baynor speaking in 30 mins or so?  I think I heard that - wonder how much that will move the markets
[07:58 am] apple  : thx qwert
[07:59 am] qwert  : lets see if the volume comes in on  a break
[08:02 am] apple  : there goes AMZN
[08:03 am] mikewd2 -: TTM
[08:05 am] mikewd2 -: REGN has tripled since last january
[08:07 am] joeytsa  : watching ILMN here in $52 area
[08:07 am] qwert  : watching MLNX
[08:07 am] joeytsa  : ES con just under R1
[08:08 am] apple  : NFLX consolidating
[08:09 am] qwert  : are you long apple
[08:10 am] apple  : yes
[08:11 am] mikewd2 -: NS continues to move up
[08:11 am] apple  : COST jumping
[08:11 am] qwert  : vvus
[08:11 am] qwert  : VVUS
[08:12 am] apple  : REGN moving
[08:12 am] skydiver  : monitoring CF
[08:14 am] skydiver  : ost track of time -- mine is up for today -- see you tomorrow --  :)
[08:14 am] Ed : c ya sky
[08:14 am] joeytsa  : bye sky
[08:14 am] qwert  : bye sky
[08:15 am] ticktrader  : good bye Sky. Mitch Thank you for PIR.
[08:16 am] mikewd2 -: out NS, +1.48
[08:16 am] joeytsa  : AMZN trying again
[08:16 am] reshef  : Mitch, I need your help with Kinetick, You said yesterday to buy the market depth, but you have to choose from the list below what market too, can you guide me what to choose?
[08:17 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL selling off again
[08:18 am] scalpman  : What was the new on NUS for that plummut and then dramatic rebound?
[08:18 am] apple  : hey scalp how are you doing?
[08:20 am] Ed : are you looking to have lighting for stocks or both stocks and futures reshef?
[08:21 am] reshef  : I have Ninja and for now only stocks
[08:22 am] murano  : BBY
[08:23 am] joeytsa  : DECK still weak
[08:23 am] Ed : ok so under where it says stocks & futures check AMEX1 $5,  Nasdaq level 1 $5, NYSE 1 $5 and NYMEX $76
[08:23 am] reshef  : Is it not basic?
[08:24 am] Ed : if you want the quotes for all stocks thats is what you will want to check
[08:25 am] Ed : the ones i mentioned
[08:25 am] reshef  : Mitch said yesterdy 19$
[08:26 am] Ed : ok well my error, Im just going off what i opted for
[08:26 am] lisas  : Isn't NYMEX Futures
[08:26 am] reshef  : What is the depth?
[08:26 am] apple  : i think so
[08:26 am] Ed : you will want to ask mitch then for clarification
[08:26 am] khall  : reshef, I think Mitch's price was after discounts - he said the actual bill was pretty high I think
[08:26 am] lisas  : Ed, are you getting your futures data fees waived?
[08:27 am] lisas  : since you have AMP account?
[08:27 am] Ed : i use cqg so no fees there
[08:27 am] lisas  : Is CQG through AMP?
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: VMC
[08:27 am] Ed : yes
[08:28 am] Ed : i have the cqg and kinetic feed running at same time through ninja
[08:28 am] lisas  : kinetic for stocks?
[08:28 am] Ed : right
[08:28 am] Ed : kinetic for stocks
[08:28 am] lisas  : Haven't been on Ninja for awhile, they let you have two feeds active?
[08:29 am] Ed : yes
[08:29 am] Ed : at same time
[08:29 am] lisas  : Time to go brush up on Ninja I guess
[08:29 am] apple  : this has become rather confusing and costly...
[08:29 am] lisas  : Been awhile for me
[08:29 am] shark  : bye lisa
[08:29 am] lisas  : not leaving now shark!
[08:29 am] reshef  : CQG is real time?
[08:29 am] Ed : yes
[08:29 am] lisas  : unless you are hinting
[08:29 am] shark  : haha
[08:29 am] joeytsa  : yeah lisa, guess your time is up
[08:30 am] lisas  : Ninja's on my "to do" lit
[08:30 am] lisas  : list
[08:30 am] apple  : lisa he's trying to get rid of you.  only half-days for you!
[08:30 am] reshef  : so why to choose to pay if you have for free
[08:30 am] apple  : almost lunchtime
[08:30 am] Ed : reshef since i have an AMP account i do not pay for the data feed of CQG
[08:30 am] joeytsa  : KBW
[08:30 am] Ed : AMP does not have stocks
[08:30 am] reshef  : what is AMP?
[08:30 am] scalpman  : FSLR drop
[08:31 am] reshef  : What is the depth?
[08:31 am] Ed : AMP is futures trading firm and clearing
[08:31 am] joeytsa  : SSYS also pulling back a bit
[08:31 am] joeytsa  : not a 10-bagger though :)
[08:32 am] mikewd2 -: KBW
[08:32 am] apple  : joey, work harder
[08:32 am] lisas  : Does anyone know how much of a difference there is between kinetick, CQG and firms that partner for data like IB and TDAmeritrade?
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : DDD weak also, trying to bottom
[08:34 am] scalpman  : L FSLR @ 26.80
[08:34 am] Ed : so in my case my cost is $15
[08:34 am] lisas  : plus the monthly fee and market depth?
[08:34 am] Ed : additional for kinetic data feed for stocks
[08:34 am] lisas  : for Kinetic
[08:34 am] Ed : let me make sure
[08:35 am] lisas  : Seems monthly fee is about $50, market depth $20
[08:35 am] joeytsa  : crude trying to hold $88
[08:35 am] khall  : yes lisa, I have IB with Kinetic - that's about right
[08:35 am] khall  : my futures fee is waived tho
[08:35 am] khall  : CBOE
[08:36 am] lisas  : khall, so could you get stock data from IB for Ninja and not pay for Kinetic?
[08:36 am] apple  : market chop now
[08:37 am] doji  : Lisas, TDA is datefeed fro stocks, futures and FOREX is free if you have an account with them
[08:37 am] khall  : I might be able to, I don't know. for sure
[08:37 am] khall  : I found that sometimes IB data was lagging Kinetic
[08:37 am] taco  : kinetick is faster
[08:37 am] doji  : You can keep as little as $50 in your account.... I ahve 3 accounts with them
[08:38 am] taco  : kinetick is built for ninja
[08:38 am] lisas  : Doji, thanks. Are you using this now? How does their data seem?
[08:38 am] apple  : that doji is a strategist!
[08:38 am] Ed : thats the ability to see level 11 data reshef
[08:38 am] doji  : Data is ok
[08:38 am] reshef  : But with Kinetick 50$+20$you have add for the stock & futures from the list
[08:39 am] doji  : Keep in mind that I am 6,000 miles away from NY
[08:39 am] apple  : remember doji always blames everything on "internet" connections
[08:39 am] lisas  : I was thinking of doing same, wanted to get TOS for options, figured I could move my IRA there from Scottrade to get the free data, all my fees are starting to add up
[08:39 am] doji  : hahaha good Apple
[08:39 am] taco  : lol
[08:39 am] Ed : i dont have market depth
[08:39 am] doji  : But not always, not on those stupid trades I do
[08:39 am] lisas  : Yeah Doji, but now you are big man on campus, they need to send data to you first
[08:39 am] doji  : But I am learning....
[08:39 am] apple  : lisa, i am thinking of same but for now, right now, i will get kinetick for the month of decemeber until i can move the money
[08:40 am] reshef  : Can you trade without market depth?
[08:40 am] lisas  : Ed, Mitch said we need market depth, is lightning working for you without it?
[08:40 am] Ed : i dont recall checking, but making sure now of what i have selected and cost
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : ES fast drop
[08:42 am] doji  : SPY
[08:42 am] doji  : Who is apeaking now?
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : boehner speaking
[08:42 am] apple  : we can tell
[08:42 am] mikewd2 -: big drop in markets, Boehner speaking
[08:43 am] joeytsa  : had to turn off Christmas music to hear him
[08:43 am] reshef  : Have be reason if Mitch said to add market depth, maybe for the new software we going to have in saturday?
[08:43 am] sman  : SQQQ
[08:49 am] mikewd2 -: TIF
[08:50 am] Ed : I just checked and I dont  have market depth
[08:50 am] apple  : uh oh...
[08:50 am] joeytsa  : ES trying to recover
[08:51 am] Ed : i downloaded lightning and it works fine,
[08:51 am] taco  : he has crystal ball
[08:52 am] sman  : PANL
[08:52 am] Ed : so here are services i have for stocks only
[08:52 am] Ed : AMEX1 $5,  Nasdaq level 1 $5, NYSE 1 $5
[08:53 am] reshef  : and no market depth?
[08:53 am] joeytsa  : BLOX testing hod
[08:53 am] Ed : no market depth, I just called kinetic to make sure and I dont have market depth
[08:53 am] joeytsa  : probably wont be much though
[08:54 am] lisas  : Have you compared your signals to Mitchs to see if Lightning triggers off something in market depth?
[08:54 am] reshef  : What market depth provide you?
[08:54 am] elisha  : Ninja Trader has webinars on Kinetick
[08:55 am] reshef  : Thanks Elisha
[08:55 am] apple  : E doesn't need no stinkin' market depth!
[08:55 am] Ed : it provides level 11,  seeing bid ask (buyer/seller)
[08:56 am] Ed : No lisa I have not
[08:56 am] elisha  : there are live webinars and also go to their video archives and you can replay when you want
[08:57 am] Ed : Im no rocket scientist but dont see how it could calcualte using market depth as u can get some false since of buyers/sellers
[08:58 am] Ed : since=sense
[08:58 am] Ed : I could be wrong, but just knowing how level 11 works
[08:58 am] lisas  : true, maybe it just said we needed it because he has it.
[08:59 am] qwert  : TIVO
[08:59 am] lisas  : I believe there are some indicators out there that do look at the number of bid versus ask. As you say, it's a shell game
[08:59 am] Ed : right if you only selectet certain things and it works then thats what ur going on
[08:59 am] Ed : right lisa
[09:00 am] apple  : nice on TIVO qwert
[09:00 am] Ed : lightning to me seems more price action based
[09:01 am] sman  : USNA
[09:02 am] ticktrader  : Ed we know Price-action is your favorite
[09:02 am] Ed : isure is
[09:03 am] apple  : he's the price action hero
[09:03 am] elisha  : any good books on price action?
[09:04 am] Ed : not sure elisha, i learned ton by trial and error, scalp will be in tomorrow and he knows of good one
[09:05 am] Ed : reshef hope that helps
[09:05 am] Ed : we will go over lot more of course on sat
[09:06 am] elisha  : thanks Ed, I will ask him tomorrow and if he doesn't know of one may I suggest you write one?
[09:06 am] joeytsa  : reid to speak soon
[09:06 am] Ed : lol
[09:07 am] reshef  : Thanks Ed
[09:08 am] reshef  : Ed, Don't forget we didn't get the link to webiner yet
[09:09 am] Ed : Mitch has staff that will make sure all get link
[09:09 am] joeytsa  : reid speaking now
[09:09 am] skydiver  : question - just jumped of for a moment -- I have the free version on Ninjatrader and using esignal for the data feed.  Do I need to buy Ninja trader or to work with Lightspeed.?
[09:10 am] mikewd2 -: missed USNA, internet froze as placing order
[09:10 am] skydiver  : I meant Ligthning  :)
[09:10 am] skydiver  : sorry mike - bummer
[09:11 am] apple  : next time mike
[09:11 am] joeytsa  : pedal faster
[09:11 am] joeytsa  : :)
[09:11 am] Ed : are u able to get realtime data with current setup sky?
[09:12 am] skydiver  : yes Ed -- seems to work great
[09:12 am] Ed : will find out for you,
[09:13 am] skydiver  : esignal is one of the sources Ninjatrader had on their home page - so tried it a few weeks ago and been working pretty well -- thnx Ed .. appreciate it.. :)
[09:13 am] Ed : Im thinking it will but will check with ninja to be certain
[09:13 am] skydiver  : okay -- thnx again Ed!! :)  :)
[09:14 am] Ed : so should have response within 24hours
[09:14 am] skydiver  : no problem on time - thnx
[09:15 am] joeytsa  : nice ES bounce
[09:15 am] qwert  : watching CAR
[09:15 am] joeytsa  : great call on USNA sman
[09:17 am] Ed : hey lisa as example looking over at lightning gave signal at  12:06, my entry was 12:05. So, this is what I have been basing it on, that maybe market depth does not matter for it
[09:17 am] lisas  : what symbol Ed?
[09:17 am] Ed : keep in mine I always get good quick entries
[09:17 am] Ed : on USNA
[09:19 am] lisas  : So why did you enter? and what price. Is that a doji at 12:04, then hammer at 12:05, also .50 price. Is that correct?
[09:19 am] qwert  : Ed what was your entry price on USNA
[09:21 am] lisas  : Guess it rejected 39.00 also?
[09:21 am] Ed : I entered bcuz I saw the setup
[09:21 am] Ed : 39.57
[09:21 am] qwert  : thx Ed
[09:21 am] Ed : also that is comfortable for me
[09:22 am] skydiver  : hey Ed -- do you use a gaming mouse to speed up your quick entries :)
[09:22 am] lisas  : Sooo, you're comment to wait for selling posted at 9:03?
[09:22 am] qwert  : KSS dumping
[09:22 am] apple  : that guy is damn good
[09:22 am] Ed : yes, correct lisa, but when I see setup, i react also with no thought
[09:23 am] joeytsa  : just like my wife :)
[09:23 am] qwert  : hahaha
[09:23 am] Ed : no sky maybe i should look into getting a gaming mouse
[09:23 am] lisas  : I thought I saw a set up, but then saw your comment, so waited then missed. You and Joey's wife~! Just in sim mode now anyway:)
[09:23 am] skydiver  : wow Ed - you have great reflexes -- I'll have to work on mine :)
[09:24 am] Ed : the setup was we got succesful test of lod and it held
[09:24 am] skydiver  : thnx Ed for you teaching -- learning lots :)
[09:24 am] Ed : so this is where u be flexible altough was looking for more selling
[09:24 am] Ed : let me show u lisa
[09:24 am] lisas  : Usually you are correct when you say look for more selling
[09:24 am] lisas  : Yeah, two long tails
[09:25 am] apple  : then whoosh
[09:25 am] joeytsa  : slight pos div on those 2 tails also
[09:25 am] Ed : right so, I was lookn for more selling and we got successful test of lod
[09:26 am] Ed : so now u can put this in ur chest as well, treasure chest that is
[09:26 am] joeytsa  : thx Ed
[09:26 am] apple  : haha, haha
[09:26 am] lisas  : also volume was decreasing
[09:26 am] mikewd2 -: need ACAD to push thru 5.50
[09:26 am] Ed : yes but either scenario would work as far as high probability, more selleers or retest
[09:26 am] mikewd2 -: Usana is subject of criminal probes in China, Citron Research says
[09:27 am] lisas  : Did you enter market? Some of these have wide spread when moving
[09:27 am] apple  : thx E
[09:27 am] elisha  : Ed, did you look at any other time frames in your procedure of this trade?
[09:27 am] Ed : i use hit/take +1 at bid/ask
[09:27 am] joeytsa  : just watching MDVN
[09:27 am] lisas  : Thanks Ed for the help!
[09:28 am] Ed : always eyeing from daily, to 1min on fast ones
[09:28 am] Ed : the ones that are slower dailyt, 15min to 1min
[09:28 am] Ed : its +.01
[09:29 am] apple  : you're the best, E
[09:29 am] elisha  : thanks Ed - and your hit/take +.01 - is that always or do you change that out depending on the situation?
[09:29 am] lisas  : ok, wish they would put that  entry option on TS matrix
[09:29 am] Ed : i change depend on situation
[09:29 am] elisha  : should you write a book about that too?
[09:29 am] lisas  : If the spread is close, I do market.
[09:29 am] Ed : u really like that matrix, i could not get use to it
[09:29 am] joeytsa  : you can use the buy stop also
[09:30 am] Ed : lol
[09:30 am] lisas  : I've put orders in buy stop joey on TS, and they get skipped.  Need to figure that out as they shouldn't. Might be going in as limit for some reason
[09:31 am] joeytsa  : what about the "Pts" on the matrix?
[09:31 am] apple  : i see where hit/take is probably quicker than anything else
[09:31 am] Ed : seems like it
[09:31 am] joeytsa  : the +/- .01 is also on the TS Quick Trade Bar
[09:32 am] Ed : acts like market order but gets sent as limit
[09:32 am] joeytsa  : and you can see the bid/ask much easier
[09:32 am] apple  : that's what i was referring to joey
[09:32 am] lisas  : Yes Joey, just trying to find the dang thing, been so long since I tried it, will keep it up and try more now:)
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: come to papa USNA
[09:33 am] Ed : you guys ready for ur prize
[09:33 am] joeytsa  : hahaha
[09:33 am] apple  : nice, they deserve it
[09:33 am] apple  : clap, clap
[09:33 am] lisas  : yeah!
[09:33 am] joeytsa  : i thought that was Mitch's alarm clock
[09:33 am] lisas  : all rejoiced!
[09:34 am] sman  : what did i win?
[09:34 am] apple  : haha joey
[09:34 am] qwert  : for sure they get ice cream
[09:34 am] apple  : you won everyone's admiration, sman
[09:34 am] Ed : u got the gong
[09:34 am] khall  : you won the profits of Ed's one share
[09:34 am] elisha  : I think all you guys should take a bow
[09:34 am] apple  : and an ice cream cone
[09:34 am] Ed : lol
[09:34 am] apple  : two scoops
[09:34 am] apple  : nice one on MDVN
[09:35 am] qwert  : haha
[09:35 am] mikewd2 -: covered USNA via options
[09:35 am] Ed : nice going mikey football trader
[09:35 am] apple  : he is good
[09:35 am] mikewd2 -: JFF
[09:36 am] mikewd2 -: not a symbol - haha
[09:36 am] Ed : now u tell me, bought 1.2 shares
[09:36 am] apple  : oh...
[09:36 am] mikewd2 -: Johnny F--in Football
[09:36 am] mikewd2 -: for Heisman
[09:36 am] lisas  : Now that's amazing Ed
[09:36 am] Ed : lol
[09:36 am] apple  : E will buy anything...
[09:36 am] mikewd2 -: fyi: when you can't short big movers - look to go with options.
[09:37 am] apple  : was the chart good for you, E?
[09:37 am] apple  : right mike
[09:37 am] apple  : lol
[09:37 am] mikewd2 -: i don't think Johnny is on the exchange yet Ed
[09:37 am] mikewd2 -: haha
[09:37 am] Ed : oh well
[09:39 am] sman  : CLSN
[09:40 am] qwert  : CREE at lod
[09:41 am] apple  : PAY
[09:41 am] mikewd2 -: Chinese regulators have explicitly stated that Usana (USNA), a developer of science-based nutritional and personal care products, is engaged in a multi-level marketing scheme, which is illegal in China.
[09:42 am] joeytsa  : thx mike
[09:42 am] apple  : thx mike
[09:42 am] mikewd2 -: some other company had that multi-level marketing scheme a while back
[09:42 am] mak  : Ed, how can I auto trail my last quarter with ninja, for example if I have 500 sold 200 and sold 200 how do I auto trail last 100 thanks
[09:43 am] joeytsa  : KSS still weak
[09:43 am] apple  : u still in it, joey?
[09:44 am] joeytsa  : no
[09:44 am] Ed : not sure at this point mak, Im getting familiar with ninja as well, at latest will have a response by saturday
[09:44 am] apple  : just sayin?
[09:44 am] mak  : thanks
[09:44 am] apple  : thx
[09:44 am] murano  : I know
[09:44 am] Ed : is sky still here
[09:45 am] joeytsa  : no, he left
[09:45 am] apple  : i think heleft
[09:45 am] joeytsa  : usually pops back on during the last hour
[09:46 am] apple  : right, he has to "work"
[09:46 am] Ed : do you all recall his question
[09:46 am] sman  : CHMT
[09:46 am] Ed : was great question and i have a response
[09:47 am] skydiver  : Hi Ed --- at office and had to pull away for a bit, but back now
[09:47 am] joeytsa  : skydiver  : question - just jumped of for a moment -- I have the free version on Ninjatrader and using esignal for the data feed.  Do I need to buy Ninja trader or to work with Lightspeed.?
[09:47 am] skydiver  : sorry -- question was not stated well
[09:47 am] Ed : NinjaTrader is completely free for use with all of its features for simulation trading, and this includes the ability to add on custom indicators, as well as 3rd party indicators. The only time you will want to purchase NinjaTrader is when you are trading live with the NinjaTrader application with a supported broker.
[09:47 am] apple  : oops, there is sky
[09:47 am] skydiver  : :)
[09:48 am] Ed : thx sky was great question
[09:48 am] skydiver  : okay -- my plan was to use Ninjatrader and continue trading from Lightspeed.  Will that work with Lightning as well?
[09:48 am] apple  : confused, so i have to buy ninjatrader and kinetick as well?
[09:48 am] skydiver  : on my free version of Ninjatrader using esignal for data feed
[09:48 am] doji  : Whn you say simulation, it means papertrade with real time quotes?
[09:48 am] skydiver  : yes
[09:48 am] doji  : Because I can see real quotes using Ninja and TDA
[09:48 am] Ed : from the response it seems u can
[09:49 am] skydiver  : I've been using it for a couple of weeks or so and it seems to be working giving real time quotes using esignal data feed
[09:49 am] Ed : that was response i got from ninja
[09:49 am] skydiver  : thnx Ed!!!   ok then . .
[09:49 am] doji  : The same is true with TDA and Ninja Sky
[09:49 am] doji  : realquotes
[09:50 am] doji  : and realtime datafeed
[09:50 am] skydiver  : thnx doji
[09:50 am] Ed : it really depends apple
[09:51 am] apple  : you know, i have TS and Etrade now.  i got the demo account for ninja, but i am confused how it all works together.
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : quick spike on LQDT
[09:53 am] joeytsa  : AMZN still hovering near $250
[09:53 am] Ed : with the current platforms you have apple you would need to purchase ninja and have a data feed (kinetic is best), reason is that the platfomr you have are not on list for ninja as brokers
[09:56 am] Ed : To take step further, true it is and can be a cost associated, I think some approaches one have to look at. 1) slowly build up with what you are currently doing, 2) make the investment as it is an investment into your business 3) go with a platform thats a recommended broker of ninja and get free ninja and use platform for data feed
[09:57 am] shark  : thx, Ed
[09:57 am] Ed : So at the end of the day, there is a solution for whatever ur situation is
[09:57 am] sman  : PAA
[09:59 am] Ed : bruce has been really quiet
[09:59 am] Ed : he must be breakin in his furniture
[10:00 am] Ed : heeey bruuuuuce
[10:00 am] Ed : i see him signed in, guess he fell asleep in that recliner
[10:01 am] khall  : or went to grab lunch
[10:01 am] qwert  : hahaha
[10:01 am] Ed : oh yeah good point khall
[10:01 am] shark  : hopefully he has his alerts set
[10:01 am] khall  : one can't trade well on an empty tummy
[10:01 am] shark  : agreed, khall
[10:01 am] Ed : i really think the senators are having fun with moving the markets
[10:02 am] shark  : speaking of which, we need a tsa cafeteria
[10:02 am] Ed : yea we do
[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: good point shark, always had cafeteria at work
[10:02 am] shark  : ;)
[10:03 am] lisas  : I'm eating in the cafeteria now
[10:03 am] Ed : i hear burger king is expanding its delivery market
[10:04 am] khall  : ewwww
[10:04 am] joeytsa  : doctors around the country rejoice :)
[10:04 am] shark  : HLF was nice short near b/e, missed that...
[10:04 am] Ed : good one joey
[10:04 am] shark  : lol joey
[10:05 am] joeytsa  : you guys need to read "The China Study"..great book
[10:05 am] joeytsa  : need to read "The China STudy"
[10:07 am] shark  : just tell me what to eat, add some spice..and I'm good
[10:08 am] joeytsa  : :)
[10:08 am] Ed : 4 winners in virginia for powerball each win 1million
[10:09 am] joeytsa  : nice
[10:09 am] shark  : only 1m?
[10:09 am] joeytsa  : i had 5 tickets, only 1 # total on them haha
[10:09 am] go4it  : Just noticed your comment Ed Ive been multitasking
[10:09 am] Ed : guess that explains why i have not seen my wife since yesterday
[10:10 am] khall  : ha ha
[10:10 am] khall  : she figures you can make your own million
[10:10 am] joeytsa  : multitasking= eating a meatball sandwich and drinking a beer :)
[10:10 am] lisas  : and will never see her again
[10:10 am] Ed : 1 sold in richmond, arlington, daleville and harrisonbur
[10:10 am] Ed : thx for vote of confidence lisa
[10:11 am] lisas  : anytime
[10:11 am] go4it  : I wish Joey more like doing laundry and organizing house
[10:11 am] Ed : i will give her 2more minutes and if no show on 1st plane to see doji
[10:11 am] joeytsa  : you liking the new place?
[10:11 am] qwert  : hahaha
[10:11 am] lisas  : oh yea of little faith
[10:11 am] Ed : lol
[10:11 am] go4it  : Yes I do plan to stay a long time
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : good to hear bruce
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : sadly i asked the same thing to my then girlfriend hahah
[10:12 am] joeytsa  : she gave same response :)
[10:12 am] Ed : nice bruce, is this the "last: home
[10:13 am] go4it  : Ed I think it is
[10:13 am] Ed : i think we will have 1more move
[10:14 am] Ed : the youngest will be gone in 2 more years
[10:14 am] go4it  : yeah you don't want to move to often very stressful
[10:15 am] qwert  : moving sucks
[10:15 am] Ed : so we can downsize, yeeeeees
[10:15 am] go4it  : well said Qwert
[10:15 am] shark  : if you can find a better, nicer beach house, makes it easier go4it
[10:15 am] joeytsa  : Ed's wife said " hurry, pack your bags..i just won the lottery!!  Ed said "should i pack for the beach or the mountains?" Wife says " I dont care, just get the hell out"  :)
[10:15 am] Ed : lol
[10:15 am] qwert  : hahaha
[10:15 am] lisas  : funny joey
[10:15 am] doji  : Ed, you don't need laudry here in Rio.... in fact, you don't need clothes.....
[10:15 am] Ed : my kind of place
[10:15 am] doji  : no time to get dress up after the parties... hahaha
[10:15 am] shark  : lol
[10:16 am] qwert  : hahaha
[10:16 am] go4it  : I'd like beach house maybe as 2nd home Shark
[10:16 am] Ed : so its like the garden of eden
[10:16 am] doji  : Better than that
[10:17 am] doji  : no punishment for eating the "forbidden" fruit
[10:17 am] doji  : lol
[10:17 am] go4it  : Doji they have beach house in Rio
[10:17 am] shark  : Barbara Corchoran says "buy beach houses now"
[10:17 am] Ed : i still owe joey a visit then next stop will be south america
[10:17 am] shark  : Yes Ed!!!
[10:18 am] doji  : Great Ed...
[10:18 am] shark  : Next Feb, Mar???
[10:18 am] go4it  : got to settle in here before thinking of beach
[10:18 am] Ed : is that when ur going shark
[10:18 am] shark  : we should schedule party at doji's asap, he books up quickly
[10:18 am] Ed : did not you get lost, or was that planned
[10:18 am] shark  : would like to, yes
[10:19 am] shark  : we can trade off our laptops
[10:19 am] shark  : :)
[10:19 am] Ed : sounds good to me
[10:19 am] Ed : hey lisa, its a pretend trip to south america, wink wink
[10:19 am] shark  : FB testing $27
[10:20 am] shark  : :(
[10:20 am] lisas  : right ed, with Santa
[10:20 am] apple  : lol
[10:21 am] go4it  : Any idea when Lightning will strike Trade Station
[10:22 am] Ed : I recall mitch saying its not top priority for Tradestation, wants to get a scanner done first for you guys in room
[10:23 am] go4it  : Ok
[10:23 am] lisas  : What kind of scanner, you mean in Ninja?
[10:23 am] joeytsa  : HTWR
[10:23 am] Ed : missed nice breakout on REGN, based on daily and 15min chart. would stilll look at pattern so you can recognize it
[10:23 am] joeytsa  : $1.50 move
[10:23 am] Ed : it will feed into the room lisa
[10:23 am] joeytsa  : BIDU hod
[10:24 am] apple  : will we see the scanner
[10:24 am] shark  : been huge growth stock, REGN
[10:24 am] Ed : yes, mitch says it will be awesome
[10:24 am] apple  : woohoo
[10:25 am] joeytsa  : yeah shark
[10:25 am] Ed : sure has
[10:25 am] lisas  : ok, so like very first room, where stocks picks were in separate window?
[10:26 am] khall  : I am calling it a day - pups to vet and me to doc.  See you all tomorrow morning!
[10:26 am] Ed : not sure how it will look, but it will be getting room to that next level
[10:26 am] lisas  : bye khall
[10:26 am] Ed : c ya khall
[10:26 am] apple  : have fun khall
[10:26 am] khall  : make lotsa money this afternoon!
[10:26 am] shark  : bye khall
[10:26 am] joeytsa  : bye kat
[10:26 am] apple  : we will
[10:26 am] qwert  : cya khall
[10:28 am] qwert  : Ed are you in HTWR
[10:28 am] Ed : no just watching right now
[10:28 am] qwert  : okay was curious
[10:28 am] Ed : looking for chinks in the amour
[10:32 am] Ed : was looking for bounce close to 82.50 see how it reacts, if get lower high
[10:33 am] Ed : i will just wait
[10:34 am] qwert  : RLD
[10:35 am] murano  : BIDU
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: RealD upgraded to Outperform from Market Perform at Barrington
[10:39 am] doji  : FB broke 27...
[10:39 am] qwert  : TIF at 60
[10:40 am] doji  : 600K, 800K shares per minute... MF buying FB?
[10:43 am] shark  : broke $27 on vol, doji
[10:46 am] doji  : FB has run from 19 to 37 in 13 days....now everyone likes the stock
[10:46 am] doji  : 27]
[10:46 am] lisas  : Taking off, thanks all. You can plan your trip now Ed
[10:47 am] shark  : take two, bye lisa!
[10:48 am] Ed : c ya  lisa
[10:48 am] apple  : bye lisa have fun
[10:48 am] mikewd2 -: TIF tested 60.00
[10:52 am] shark  : yeah mike
[10:52 am] shark  : Ed, would you do a bounce off a retest low, like TIF 10:43-10:46et area?
[10:54 am] Ed : only if it had good price movement with vol
[10:54 am] sman  : UBNT
[10:54 am] Ed : but not slow motion for me
[10:55 am] Ed : very thin today
[10:55 am] mikewd2 -: RTLX, halted on buyout i think
[10:55 am] doji  : I see FB and aked myself why I didn't take it at the 27 breakout with volume
[10:55 am] apple  : i thought you had it at 19!
[10:56 am] shark  : what answer did you come up with?
[10:56 am] doji  : No asnwer, never critizise myself.... hahahah
[10:56 am] apple  : he's the boss
[10:56 am] shark  : lol
[10:56 am] doji  : Well, it looks over extended and could easily lose ground
[10:57 am] shark  : yeah, but it could go to 38
[10:57 am] apple  : got AAPL 625 12-7 call 1.11
[10:57 am] doji  : or tank back to 19
[10:57 am] shark  : so how do you make sure it is high probability one way or the other?
[10:57 am] doji  : Thanks Apple
[10:57 am] shark  : awesome apple!
[10:58 am] Ed : is that for me shark that q
[10:58 am] shark  : that was for doji, he was asking himself questions, Ed
[10:58 am] Ed : hmm
[10:59 am] Ed : i hear young woman will drive an old guy crazy, I would not know though
[10:59 am] apple  : ES rising higher
[10:59 am] apple  : haha
[10:59 am] Ed : Im young and crazy
[10:59 am] shark  : :)
[10:59 am] apple  : ATAX cheap
[11:00 am] doji  : Nice question Shark
[11:00 am] doji  : What is the answer?
[11:00 am] doji  : Probabilities?
[11:00 am] apple  : AMZN loving 250
[11:00 am] doji  : Apple, are you only buying the call?
[11:01 am] shark  : is a break over $27 on vol, a high probability trade?
[11:01 am] shark  : doji?
[11:01 am] apple  : right now yes
[11:01 am] doji  : FB is in a sustainable trend so from the daily chart I would say yes
[11:02 am] apple  : i am trying to buy it for 1.15 in my other account
[11:02 am] shark  : and you didn't take it because?
[11:02 am] doji  : Now it is at 1.18 Apple, 625 call
[11:02 am] apple  : got it
[11:02 am] doji  : Simply because I was on a call
[11:03 am] shark  : otherwise you would have, ok
[11:03 am] doji  : Yes
[11:03 am] Ed : nice lookink base FB has built on daily and working up right side
[11:03 am] apple  : i missed it at 1.11 and put a bid in and did not chase it
[11:04 am] doji  : But I'd have bough a small position and then see how it reacts....
[11:04 am] shark  : agreed, Ed
[11:04 am] shark  : what are you looking for on AAPL, apple?
[11:05 am] doji  : Looking to break above 600
[11:05 am] doji  : You are the expert in options Sjark. What is your input?
[11:05 am] doji  : on regards to buying weekly calls on APPL?
[11:06 am] regatta  : watching QIHU
[11:06 am] shark  : well, no trend today...
[11:06 am] shark  : but has nice channel off recent low
[11:07 am] apple  : it is my call side.  i think it will go higher then retrace
[11:07 am] shark  : look for break out of top of channel or test support on low end of channel
[11:07 am] doji  : and the 200d MA is at $600...
[11:08 am] apple  : yes it does
[11:08 am] shark  : 200 day 599.73, yes
[11:08 am] shark  : be good place for shorts to come back and try to make a case
[11:08 am] sman  : ATAX
[11:10 am] shark  : AAPL been riding below vwap most of day,
[11:10 am] apple  : agree shark, i can't wait until tomorrow...
[11:10 am] joeytsa  : AAPL using $590 today
[11:10 am] shark  : would like to see it get above and hold before moving towards $600
[11:10 am] shark  : could enter above vwap for intraday trade
[11:11 am] doji  : restest of the 586 could be also a good long 3-4 point
[11:12 am] doji  : APPL 625 call back to 1.1 apple
[11:12 am] victor51  : Mitch, RTLX trading at 29.50,. Not much movement
[11:14 am] doji  : Apple, what do you mena by "agree shark, i can't wait until tomorrow..."
[11:14 am] Mitch K: it was  a formal buyout victor and price wont move
[11:15 am] apple  : i told you about the daytrade ... that is the most fun
[11:16 am] apple  : i need a cappuccino back in 5 min
[11:17 am] victor51  : Mitch, i traded yesterday before it was halted and gave me nice green
[11:17 am] doji  : Ah ok, the Friday startegy... thanks Apple
[11:21 am] joeytsa  : ES in 3pt range, watch for a break
[11:21 am] victor51  : Apple, are we getting link for lightening today?
[11:24 am] go4it  : Should we start nibbling atCVLT?
[11:24 am] Ed : not my type of setup bruce
[11:24 am] go4it  : Thks Ed
[11:27 am] Ed : no problem
[11:29 am] joeytsa  : ES testing support
[11:30 am] apple  : i don't think so victor
[11:31 am] doji  : Apple, did you add to your APPL calls... I got them at 1.05
[11:31 am] apple  : i am lovin AMZN
[11:31 am] apple  : no doji, i did not
[11:33 am] apple  : don't get crazy, pls
[11:34 am] doji  : Nothing out if context Apple, I just took very tine numebr of calls
[11:34 am] joeytsa  : HLF on nice move
[11:35 am] shark  : FB retesting hod, R3 area
[11:35 am] murano  : WLL
[11:35 am] joeytsa  : WLL
[11:35 am] joeytsa  : nice murano
[11:35 am] apple  : ok, i am just buying at one time and that is it
[11:36 am] doji  : FSLR
[11:36 am] apple  : wow on WLL\
[11:37 am] joeytsa  : apple: are you using options on AMZN or stock?
[11:37 am] apple  : options
[11:37 am] apple  : bot on monday
[11:38 am] joeytsa  : cool
[11:38 am] victor51  : Nice aaple
[11:38 am] doji  : Someone bought 10,000 contracts on January 2013 50 call on WLL
[11:38 am] apple  : unfortunately not at the dead low... but good enough
[11:40 am] murano  : WLL  halted
[11:40 am] qwert  : anyone in WLL
[11:41 am] apple  : actually AAPL had a almost a half-gap fill today
[11:42 am] shark  : don't move the stocks so fast, Ed!
[11:43 am] Ed : :)
[11:44 am] apple  : lol, there we go
[11:48 am] victor51  : wll long small qty  41.60
[11:49 am] go4it  : CVLT moving
[11:55 am] mikewd2 -: here you go doji: Apple to begin selling unlocked iPhone 5, BGR reports
[11:58 am] doji  : No man.... now I need to purchase three in a row: my wife, deuaghter and mom.....
[11:58 am] doji  : bye $2,500....
[12:00 pm] apple  : doji, think of it as a happy investment
[12:00 pm] victor51  : out wll  at b/e
[12:01 pm] doji  : hahaha... yes
[12:05 pm] apple  : Q:  i am purchasing kinetick now:  i got amex lev 1, na lev 1 nyse lev i -- what do i need for futures?
[12:06 pm] apple  : na = nas
[12:09 pm] Ed : to make sure apple you can contact kinetic 1800 837 0708
[12:09 pm] Ed : but nymex would include
[12:09 pm] Ed : futures
[12:10 pm] apple  : thx E,  there are 2 NYMEX miNY for 20 and NYMEX for 76
[12:10 pm] Ed : should be for 76
[12:11 pm] apple  : okay, thanks, but i will call them after the close
[12:12 pm] Ed : but mitch says there is way to get all the CME data waived, so that is what I would ask how can I get the CME data fee waived as CME data would give you everything as far as futures, and emini
[12:13 pm] apple  : thanks
[12:14 pm] elisha  : what is CME data?
[12:14 pm] joeytsa  : chicago merc
[12:14 pm] elisha  : thanks joey
[12:16 pm] Ed : some q we are able to respond too, but others as there are many scenarios as far as brokers to use with ninja, but if we do not know, will do our best to get an answer for you
[12:17 pm] apple  : thx
[12:17 pm] Ed : as i have familiarity with using 2 data feeds on ninja (cqg and kinetic) as this is what Im using, but like I said there can be multiple scenarios
[12:19 pm] qwert  : Ed which i have both data feeds as well which one do you connect to first?
[12:19 pm] Ed : i connect to cqg first
[12:20 pm] qwert  : that means it is the one to the left correct?
[12:20 pm] Ed : correct
[12:20 pm] qwert  : okay i have the same setup
[12:21 pm] Ed : the way the feed works is, when u place symbol it will use 1st data feed and if cant get symbol on 1st will use 2nd data feed, it does this in warp speed
[12:21 pm] joeytsa  : pelosi getting ready to talk
[12:22 pm] shark  : thx, joey
[12:22 pm] Ed : thx joey
[12:22 pm] doji  : NExt, Doji tals, ok
[12:22 pm] apple  : i hate when these people talk and i do mean hate
[12:22 pm] doji  : talks
[12:22 pm] qwert  : okay i didnt really know  thanks Ed
[12:22 pm] joeytsa  : at least they move the markets
[12:22 pm] qwert  : Doji will skyrocket the market  :))
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : but because of his internet, we wont see it until next week :)
[12:23 pm] qwert  : hahaha
[12:23 pm] shark  : lol
[12:23 pm] qwert  : WLL back at 41
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : ES pulling back
[12:24 pm] apple  : haha, too funny...
[12:24 pm] shark  : DIA SPY getting quick pullback
[12:24 pm] shark  : anticipating the speech, it seems
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : qwert: if you want a good laugh, read my facebook post today
[12:24 pm] qwert  : okay i will
[12:27 pm] joeytsa  : close to 6pt pullback on ES past 30 min
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : BIDU over $99
[12:29 pm] skydiver  : Hi all -- was away for a bit -- back now :0
[12:30 pm] apple  : hey sky
[12:30 pm] skydiver  : hey apple :)
[12:31 pm] Ed : hey sky is ur last name spelled with 1 or 2 g's
[12:31 pm] skydiver  : two g's ed
[12:31 pm] Ed : thx
[12:31 pm] skydiver  : oner after that
[12:31 pm] murano  : M
[12:32 pm] Ed : got it
[12:32 pm] skydiver  : :)
[12:33 pm] Ed : trying to write you a big .01 check. I figure the bigger the check the less importance the amount
[12:33 pm] skydiver  : nice :)
[12:33 pm] skydiver  : I'll take a micro check then please :)\
[12:33 pm] Ed : :)
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : thanks Mitch,Ed,everyone..have a great day, see you all tomorrow
[12:34 pm] skydiver  : take care joey -- and eats lots of pizza :)\
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : haha
[12:34 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:34 pm] skydiver  : :)
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : you know me better than that
[12:34 pm] qwert  : bye joey
[12:34 pm] skydiver  : I do joey -- take care
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : :)
[12:35 pm] apple  : bye joey, see you tomorrow, have a wonderful evening!
[12:35 pm] apple  : you know, he's no fun anymore!
[12:36 pm] skydiver  : thnx Ed on WLL and KSS
[12:42 pm] Ed : no problem
[12:45 pm] murano  : If you took M long I would sell most here
[12:45 pm] qwert  : thx murano
[12:47 pm] shark  : SVU
[12:47 pm] shark  : worst performer on S&P ytd
[12:49 pm] shark  : AAPL doing a doji (on the daily)
[12:53 pm] klas  : Sorry late to the show but is the webinar still Saturday? and has anything been sent out from TSA?
[12:53 pm] Ed : its still saturday and staff will be sending something out
[12:53 pm] klas  : THanks Ed
[12:54 pm] Ed : the chart says it all on SVU
[12:55 pm] shark  : yeah, it has rusty written all over it
[12:55 pm] Ed : thats 4 sure
[12:55 pm] apple  : i do miss him
[12:56 pm] Ed : NFLX was sweet also
[12:56 pm] shark  : :)
[01:00 pm] shark  : Thx, Ed. Have a great day/eve everyone
[01:00 pm] skydiver  : see you all in the morning -- thnx for all the great calls and teaching today :)
[01:01 pm] apple  : bye sky, have fun
[01:01 pm] apple  : thx MK, E and everyone.  all have a fantastic evening.
[01:01 pm] shark  : you using the 'squeeze' apple?
[01:01 pm] taco  : thanks Mitch and Ed and all, great ideas today
[01:05 pm] murano  : SPLK
[01:10 pm] murano  : See ya'll tomorrow
[01:17 pm] apple  : MK how to get CME for free?

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