Chat Highlights From 11/14/2011

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:10 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:11 am] Kris : I hope everyone had a good weekend
[06:11 am] Kris : Today I'm watching IFF, ROVI, SREV, JVA, VVUS, BA and CTRP for possible longs
[06:11 am] Kris : TRGT, DDS, MFN, USG and JKS for possible shorts
[06:12 am] Brent : good morning
[06:12 am] Kris : glad you had a good time skydiver
[06:12 am] Kris : yes, I was under the weather on Friday but I'm feeling better today.
[06:16 am] Brent : we'll see Joey, SPY is pulling back into trendline support on the larger timeframes 30min etc[06:26 am] Mitch K: pretty amazing that on Saturday after Berlusconi resigned, the futures were way up, then I thought BUffets comments last 3 hours steadily dropped market down
[06:28 am] Mitch K: it is really tough to get a trend right now on swing trades. day trading is safest way to make money now with real time entries on an overnight swing trade occasionally
[06:30 am] Kris : GMCR long half
[06:31 am] Kris : AMLN long half
[06:32 am] Kris : FMCN short
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching QCOR for top to short here
[06:34 am] Kris : CTRP long half
[06:35 am] Kris : TIBX long half
[06:35 am] Kris : watching RIMM for a short
[06:36 am] Kris : DMND long half
[06:37 am] Kris : out half AMLN long
[06:37 am] Mitch K: consider closing QCOR
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching QEP for bottom, no hurry
[06:38 am] Kris : out half TIBX long
[06:41 am] Kris : out another 1/4 TIBX long
[06:44 am] Kris : watching KMT for a long around 38.00 support
[06:44 am] Kris : watching VMW for a reversal short
[06:45 am] Kris : watching GMCR for a long reversal
[06:46 am] Kris : need more money in INFA, just watching for now
[06:46 am] Kris : watching INFA for a short reversal
[06:49 am] Kris : ctrp[06:49 am] Kris : SPY trying to bounce off support
[06:49 am] Kris : watching CTRP for a re-entry long soon
[06:49 am] Mitch K: could be wrong but on sidelines now
[06:49 am] Mitch K: i think something is wrong with QEP, hunch, not technical indicator, trading action is weak
[06:50 am] Kris : watching TNA for a long soon
[06:54 am] Kris : KMT coming into support, still watching for the long entry.
[06:55 am] Brent : watching ANR for a bounce
[06:55 am] Mitch K: breakthrough on QEP good sign for longs
[06:57 am] Kris : KMT long half
[06:58 am] Kris : out all TIBX long
[06:58 am] Kris : stop KMT under 37.84
[07:03 am] Kris : long second half KMT
[07:13 am] Kris : TNA coming into resistance, look to sell some and move up your stop if you took it long off the lows
[07:14 am] Kris : no amersaeed, that was a quickie. in and out
[07:47 am] Kris : we're seeing less volatility today, slow so far this morning.
[07:48 am] Kris : KMT could give another .35-.40 bounce off this last run down
[07:48 am] Kris : SPY coming into lod support, watch for another bounce with a possible lower high at trendline resistance before a retest and break of the lod.
[07:49 am] Kris : about the SPY?
[07:49 am] Kris : I wouldn't look for a whole lot more out of it past that, based on that last lame bounce it had. looks to stay weak.
[07:49 am] Kris : which part shark?
[07:50 am] Kris : didn't think it was too vague
[07:50 am] Kris : it wasn't clear
[07:50 am] Kris : look for a weak bounce here, then a retest and break of the lows
[07:51 am] Kris : lol[07:51 am] Kris : Stay Classy San Diego
[07:52 am] Mitch K: not an idea now, just showing you pattern,
[07:52 am] Mitch K: the first short is usually the fastest and best trade. 2nd helping shorts aren't as reliable unless negative market
[07:52 am] Mitch K: this is a buyout rumor pattern on left chart
[07:58 am] Brent : SPY at trendline resistance
[08:03 am] Mitch K: if you have a hard time seeing a trend in a stock, move your interval time to a longer one, like3, 4, 5 minute chart
[08:06 am] Mitch K: what i use 15 min chart for is get a quick picture what has been happening with a stock last 4-5 days
[08:27 am] Mitch K: what happens in the first 90 minutes of each day is higher volatility, faster moves, bigger profits. then after the last obvious cycle of moves occur,
[08:27 am] Mitch K: your hold time in stocks to get same profit percentage is much longer, maybe your average hold time goes to 45 minutes or something on a longer interval chart
[08:30 am] Mitch K: what kind of short ronfrac? scalp, swing, bullshort, short changed, short stick, short skirt
[08:54 am] Mitch K: the 2nd helping on a buyout rumor usually takes longer. and the safest way to play a 2nd helping is if the stock doesn't exceed the first high, see WLT on left chart
[09:19 am] Mitch K: good eye on FIO shark
[10:03 am] Mitch K: FIO has good chance at tradable bounce long
[10:06 am] Mitch K: odds are strong FIO would have bounced for two reasons: 1) indicators started turning up on 2 min and 2) market is down and FIO is up. If market indexes turn up, FIO should be lifted with the incoming tide
[10:21 am] Mitch K: another real healthy chart pattern today is PAY, higher highs, shallow pullbacks
[10:21 am] Mitch K: started from opening today and still continuing, at high of day today
[10:30 am] Mitch K: not made higher highs on last one and came all the way back down to where it started, write that down in your notes, not high odds idea now
[10:30 am] Mitch K: now this little pause here in FIO, i don't trust it, not near as powerful as PAY, avoiding the FIO long now, no 3rd helping
[10:31 am] Mitch K: new high in PAY
[10:31 am] Mitch K: you guys getting this, very shallow pullback in PAY, you guys probably kept it from coming back to 43.60
[10:32 am] Mitch K: It pays to understand PAY chart
[10:32 am] Mitch K: you want me keep talking about this PAY?
[10:33 am] Mitch K: now what time ryan?
[10:33 am] Mitch K: what chart interval and indicator ryan70 did you have for PAY, what time on chart?
[10:34 am] Mitch K: name specific candle time ryan[10:35 am] Mitch K: ok Ryan, i hear you saying you missed the long entry on PAY at 10:29 pacific time, right?
[10:36 am] Mitch K: ok, well, probably highest probability thing to do is consider half your planned long position when PAY goes to new high, like right here and other half on pullback to 43.90
[10:36 am] Mitch K: something like that
[10:37 am] Mitch K: now, to watch this without getting emotional, which is our main enemy, is to switch to a 3 min chart
[10:38 am] Mitch K: starring at 1 min charts long enough is like when a dog stares at a nicely cooked steak on a plate in front of him. After salivating, eventually he will eat it
[10:39 am] Mitch K: right apple, now i have two
[10:41 am] Mitch K: PAY should pullback so consider selling
[10:41 am] Mitch K: probably pulls back 30-40 cents, around 1%
[10:44 am] Mitch K: basically i would look for something like this in the blue circle
[10:44 am] Mitch K: so maybe we see PAY pullback to $43.75 and then you have to wait for a while until another signal to go long. just because it goes to 43.75 does not mean it is ready to buy at that moment
[10:45 am] Mitch K: no Ryan, i don't like shorting the stocks that have big runs up and small pullbacks. In the case of PAY, it's over a 2 to 1 run on the long side vs. the pullback
[10:45 am] Mitch K: understand?
[10:46 am] Mitch K: and humans tend to have shorter and shorter attention span and less discipline. you can blame that with all the technology and information we all have to process each day
[10:46 am] Mitch K: this is what you get this time of day, takes longer and requires more discipline
[10:46 am] Mitch K: what were we talking about just now?
[10:47 am] Mitch K: no ryan, doesn't turn up now, it's likely to follow that blue line, that's what i am looking for
[10:48 am] Mitch K: be back in 20 min
[11:09 am] Brent : thx Rusty for IDCC, I was late to see it, but good one
[11:57 am] Brent : SPY at lod[12:00 pm] Mitch K: ok now you see the PAY now on this 3 min chart?
[12:01 pm] Mitch K: give me 5 min and i will explain something but basically ready for a bottom
[12:05 pm] Mitch K: that's my target price, this is where i close the long on PAY
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: was that cool or what
[12:14 pm] Mitch K: no ryan, you have to read my earlier comments, you have to wait but basically we only have 45 minutes left and it won't be enough time
[12:16 pm] Mitch K: RYan, or anyone else, you learn to do what I've been talking about with FIO or PAY, manage the trade, but especially control your emotions, you can do this with about 4 or 5 stocks at a time
[12:24 pm] Mitch K: I've simplified a lot ryan since Wizard was written, changed settings and reduced the number of indicators
[12:29 pm] Mitch K: interesting as a short but may not have enough time, be careful, not heavy, and probably best to sit on side
[12:30 pm] Mitch K: but only 30 min left
[12:30 pm] Mitch K: it's got the volume pattern we like and price
[12:34 pm] Mitch K: not worth dealing with WLT,
[12:34 pm] Mitch K: why throw away a profitable day with bad trade, no time
[12:35 pm] Mitch K: come on admit it, am I right or right?
[12:35 pm] Mitch K: don't be desperate to make money on this, i can read your minds
[12:36 pm] Mitch K: i am not only your coach but counselor
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: hear what candles said? i said the same, "ah, I'll keep doing what I am doing, working on something else on another computer"
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: nice to hear shark
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a good night, see you tomorrow
[01:12 pm] Mitch K: study, analyze, learn, practice, repeat
[01:12 pm] Mitch K: you know what is really cool about all you guys and girls?
[01:12 pm] Mitch K: you are doing what 99.9% of the population are not willing to do
11/4/2011
[06:13 am] joeytsa : AAPL already falling
[06:14 am] joeytsa : is it me or does the market seem like its tip-toeing thru a mine field premarket?
[06:17 am] joeytsa : Lowes quarterly profit drops
[06:19 am] ronfrac : Morning. Have you looked at GMCR for a long?
[06:21 am] joeytsa : ron: GMCR hasn't been this low since march
[06:22 am] joeytsa : BTI down about $2 pre
[06:22 am] joeytsa : low vol[06:25 am] joeytsa : also watching GS,BIDU,AMZN,PCLN today
[06:27 am] joeytsa : JCP might turn into a swing short
[06:31 am] joeytsa : HMSY quick spike
[06:31 am] doji : Too late GMCR
[06:31 am] mhaus : JCP
[06:33 am] joeytsa : CRM
[06:34 am] doji : GMCR
[06:34 am] rusty : SPANISH 30-YEAR BOND YIELD RISES TO 6.69%, HIGHEST ON RECORD
[06:34 am] rusty : watch STD
[06:34 am] doji : CTRP L
[06:35 am] chinhngo : joey long or short crm?
[06:35 am] doji : PANL
[06:35 am] joeytsa : was just alerting the fall
[06:36 am] lara : JKS halted news pending
[06:38 am] mhaus : QEP
[06:39 am] joeytsa : BIDU hod[06:40 am] doji : QEP keep falling
[06:40 am] joeytsa : all out CTRP s :)
[06:41 am] doji : QEP reversing
[06:41 am] joeytsa : somehow missed that 1st bounce though
[06:41 am] doji : Me to Joey
[06:41 am] aussie123 : LVS
[06:41 am] doji : BIDU flying
[06:41 am] doji : QEP resumes downtrend
[06:42 am] joeytsa : all out BIDU
[06:42 am] doji : BIDU S here
[06:42 am] doji : 139.48
[06:42 am] doji : tight stop
[06:45 am] doji : SPY new lod[06:45 am] skydiver : LNG - take over chatter
[06:46 am] doji : out 1/2 BIDU
[06:46 am] joeytsa : LCAPA ran, then pulled back..see if it sets up another move
[06:47 am] lightning : QEP trying, but I'm not yet confident in it.
[06:47 am] lightning : GMCR bouncing
[06:47 am] doji : Moving second 1/2 BIDU at be
[06:48 am] doji : all out BIDU S
[06:49 am] joeytsa : SINA dropped at open, but has looked strong since..indis are high..
[06:50 am] joeytsa : s NFLX tight stop
[06:50 am] mikewd2 -: out QEP +0.55 thanks Mitch
[06:51 am] joeytsa : s GS
[06:51 am] doji : CTRP
[06:52 am] apple : joey, i was watching SINA as well
[06:53 am] joeytsa : lowered stop on NFLX
[06:54 am] doji : Weak rebound in the SPY
[06:54 am] apple : NFLX nice joey
[06:54 am] joeytsa : stopped on NFLX +50cents
[06:54 am] joeytsa : just stopped on GS also +60cents
[06:56 am] doji : GMCR lod[06:56 am] joeytsa : ALXN hod[06:58 am] joeytsa : AMZN with the gap close
[06:59 am] apple : nice one on AMZN
[07:00 am] joeytsa : nice quick one
[07:00 am] joeytsa : SINA coming back to earth
[07:01 am] doji : Joes, did you shorted ALXN?
[07:01 am] skydiver : alxn[07:02 am] joeytsa : took my eyes off it, but it was nice
[07:02 am] joeytsa : was too busy following my JCP short
[07:02 am] doji : I missed your post, had my eyes on GMCR
[07:03 am] doji : Big candle in the SPY, any news?
[07:03 am] mikewd2 -: out CTRP, not liking it long
[07:03 am] joeytsa : JOYG looked a little weak to me on that lower high
[07:04 am] joeytsa : closing JCP
[07:05 am] joeytsa : missed a nice 2nd short in CTRP
[07:06 am] joeytsa : watching ATI [07:07 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on KMT
[07:09 am] doji : It is a very slow day...
[07:10 am] ryan70 : KMT stopped
[07:10 am] joeytsa : PCLN has been a monster
[07:10 am] shailan : AMZN always amazing
[07:10 am] doji : SLB L
[07:11 am] apple : DECK moving up
[07:11 am] joeytsa : yeah shailan...left a ton of money on that one
[07:11 am] lightning : gotta go. Thanks TSA and everyone. See you Wednesday
[07:12 am] apple : nice one AMZN
[07:12 am] doji : AMZN should be a good short
[07:13 am] joeytsa : out ATI 27cents
[07:13 am] amersaeed : Kris.. you still short on FMCN..??
[07:16 am] apple : FMCN turned into a nice reversal
[07:16 am] joeytsa : anyone catch ATI reversal
[07:16 am] shark : JKS on CNBC
[07:16 am] joeytsa : tighten stop if so
[07:17 am] apple : joey, did you take JOYG S?
[07:17 am] joeytsa : of course not haha[07:18 am] joeytsa : i got locked on ATI
[07:18 am] apple : missed that one too
[07:19 am] joeytsa : i got that one both ways..just trailing the short right now
[07:19 am] apple : good for you, i'm just clicking away at screens...today
[07:20 am] joeytsa : WLT trying for hod[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: WLT takeover chatter again
[07:20 am] joeytsa : closing ATI to recycle money somewhere else
[07:22 am] joeytsa : CME been pretty weak all morning..not the highest vol stock though
[07:28 am] joeytsa : WYNN has been pretty strong so far
[07:29 am] observer : ROVI hod[07:29 am] rusty : DMND lod[07:29 am] joeytsa : DMND with the fleas
[07:29 am] apple : WYNN very nice
[07:30 am] joeytsa : yeah apple, just following that ma right up
[07:30 am] joeytsa : looks like it might want to pullback a bit here
[07:30 am] shark : AAPL about to re-test lod[07:30 am] joeytsa : NFLX lod[07:31 am] shark : interesting, interesting
[07:31 am] joeytsa : NFLX sitting on support..look to see if it break down
[07:32 am] shark : might be all the gap filling in can handle
[07:32 am] joeytsa : on NFLX?
[07:33 am] shark : yeah
[07:33 am] joeytsa : bounced right off of pivot
[07:34 am] joeytsa : my lightspeed pivots are set a bit differently than my schwab pivots..hmmmm[07:34 am] shark : hmmmm[07:34 am] joeytsa : but both seem accurate?? weird
[07:35 am] joeytsa : schwab pivot at 86.50, ls at 86
[07:35 am] joeytsa : but both have acted as support, possible res areas
[07:36 am] shark : I've got 86.463
[07:36 am] apple : to the decimal, shark
[07:36 am] joeytsa : that's about right
[07:36 am] joeytsa : i don't have values listed..just eyeballing
[07:37 am] shark : my software puts it on
[07:38 am] joeytsa : ATI turned into a nice short..got out too early once again..just broke thru prev cl
[07:38 am] mikewd2 -: CJES great 10 day chart
[07:38 am] mikewd2 -: my largest holding
[07:39 am] apple : excellent, mike - now you tell us!!!
[07:39 am] joeytsa : 22 seems like big area of res
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: I've mentioned them a bunch
[07:40 am] joeytsa : on CJES mike
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: IPO'ed at 30 a few months ago
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: hoping to get back there at some point
[07:41 am] joeytsa : it's gotta bust thru 22 first
[07:41 am] shark : nice capitulation bottom on the daily at $13.50, mike - CJES
[07:41 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[07:41 am] joeytsa : then 25,28 areas
[07:41 am] mikewd2 -: my lowest purchase was 13.67
[07:41 am] eyes : Kris what was your signal for second half long KMT
[07:42 am] shark : WOW! WAY TO GO, mike!!!
[07:43 am] shark : good fundamentals at these levels, mike?
[07:43 am] mikewd2 -: eyes, u watching KMT to get back in?
[07:43 am] eyes : no
[07:43 am] mikewd2 -: shark, did u see their earnings, still hiring like crazy, high margins on fracturing.
[07:44 am] shark : I'm going to review it today
[07:45 am] mikewd2 -: let me know what you think
[07:45 am] shark : you got it!
[07:45 am] doji : Did anyone shorted AMZN on my post at 10:12 ET?
[07:45 am] mikewd2 -: Kris: second go at KMT? or leave it alone.
[07:46 am] doji : I got a piece at 221.97and still holding
[07:47 am] mikewd2 -: Kris, thoughts on KMT?
[07:47 am] doji : Closing here 1/2 position, $2.01 profit
[07:47 am] doji : Will trail the second half
[07:48 am] shark : that sounds almost like a weather forecast, Kris
[07:50 am] shark : yes SPY reports...
[07:50 am] mhaus : CTRP
[07:50 am] doji : Even I could understand your post
[07:50 am] apple : he was just funnin' ya, K
[07:55 am] apple : SOHU lod[07:58 am] shark : AAPL new lod[08:07 am] joeytsa : good use of the 15min Mitch
[08:21 am] rusty : TPCG radar....low volume but worth watching
[08:21 am] Mitch K: what are you doing Rusty, looking for bullshorts or something?
[08:21 am] rusty : you can tell huh? lol[08:22 am] Mitch K: I thought I was the only bs'er[08:22 am] joeytsa : BWA lod[08:22 am] qwert : gotta go everybody routers acting up gonna go buy a new one see ya in the am or maybe later today
[08:23 am] apple : i like TPCG chart
[08:23 am] richard : nice move on PAY today...low volume
[08:24 am] rusty : ASTM http://www.thestreet.com/story/11309662/1/aas trom-cell-therapy-reverses-effects-of-blocked -leg-arteries.html
[08:24 am] rusty : currently halted
[08:24 am] eyes : PAY
[08:24 am] apple : very nice richard
[08:24 am] ronfrac : Mitch: How does CTRP look for a short?
[08:25 am] rusty : CTRP currently hammer + volume on the daily chart
[08:26 am] joeytsa : rusty: you think CTRP has some upside?
[08:26 am] ronfrac : Rusty; Explain hammer+vol[08:27 am] joeytsa : i see maybe small upside, but then continuation of the downtrend
[08:28 am] joeytsa : and that's where my patience usually leaves the room unfortunately
[08:33 am] joeytsa : esignal users : i assume they offer pivot points, if anyone uses them do they seem accurate? i want to switch to esignal in the coming weeks
[08:36 am] rusty : http://www.pivotpointcalculator.com/
[08:38 am] ronfrac : Mitch: The 3 min and 2 min stoc turned down but it looks like a lot of supporting the 30.05-30.20 area.
[08:39 am] mhaus : KMT moving up
[08:39 am] rusty : ARSD another low volume bullshort type
[08:42 am] ronfrac : Re: ctrp -also the 5 MA on the 3 min is trending up while on the 2 min it is trending down
[08:42 am] eyes : did anyone get PAY
[08:43 am] apple : no
[08:43 am] joeytsa : ron, let it break thru support if you are going to short
[08:46 am] joeytsa : stock history: i believe it was 39 yrs ago today was the 1st time the dow closed above 1000
[08:46 am] rusty : AMRN radar
[08:46 am] mhaus : HD
[08:46 am] rusty : Analyst $25 target AMRN
[08:47 am] rusty : for what it's worth
[08:47 am] joeytsa : that must have been him who stocked up at 18 haha[08:48 am] rusty : AMRN presenting new data tomorrow
[08:48 am] rusty : ASTM reopens at noon
[08:48 am] joeytsa : interesting..AMRN sitting right where it was b4 that big gap end of april[08:49 am] rusty : everyone loved AMRN at 20
[08:49 am] joeytsa : gapped up and that analyst loaded up haha[08:49 am] apple : thx rusty for AMRN and ASTM
[08:53 am] ronfrac : JOEY: The 70's were just a wild as today. When the Dow broke 1000 they had to close the NYSE the next day to process the paperwork. This happened alow in the early 70's. They had to ramp up the new paper processing machines called computers
[08:54 am] joeytsa : nice info ron[08:55 am] ronfrac : I was a broker at Dean Witter in NYC.
[08:55 am] apple : really... interesting facts
[08:55 am] joeytsa : 1965 dow was 874, 1981 dow was 875...so much for buy and hold hah
[08:56 am] joeytsa : good point Mitch
[08:56 am] ronfrac : Dow tanking
[08:57 am] stevemld : CRM at some support watching for breakthrough
[08:57 am] rusty : Dow 2000 11,790 Dow 2011 12081
[08:57 am] rusty : +300 points in 11 years
[08:58 am] apple : steady as she goes...
[08:58 am] rusty : some days the market moves more than 300 points
[08:59 am] rusty : TLT hod[08:59 am] rusty : ASTM about to open
[09:00 am] rusty : ASTM open
[09:01 am] ronfrac : Mitch; I liked your question on what type of short. I'm usually a bull short and into short skirts. However I don't swing but have a short stick and therefore short changed.
[09:01 am] rusty : ronfrac = George Carlin?????
[09:02 am] joeytsa : ron: nice short when it broke support
[09:03 am] ronfrac : I got stopped once but short again at 29.81
[09:07 am] ronfrac : A second helping usually takes longer but usually doesn't reach the first high
[09:13 am] shark : FIO alert
[09:13 am] shark : FIO ALERT
[09:14 am] shark : up on CNBC mention
[09:15 am] apple : FIO reversed at noon
[09:19 am] stevemld : FIO no short shares @ tradestation[09:27 am] joeytsa : the republican presidential candidates held a debate in michigan...just what michigan needs, 12 more people looking for a job :)
[09:27 am] joeytsa : MI has been hit terribly hard
[09:30 am] joeytsa : CMG lod[09:30 am] shark : yeah...
[09:33 am] joeytsa : really glad i closed my short on ATI haha, another moron mistake haha[09:35 am] shark : SPY new lod[09:37 am] stevemld : WYNN tanking
[09:41 am] apple : good job, joey...
[09:43 am] joeytsa : FIO nice higher high
[09:43 am] shark : Wozniak owns some, believes in co. - FIO
[09:46 am] joeytsa : just blasted thru R2
[09:47 am] shark : & R3 at 35.7 - FIO
[09:47 am] joeytsa : mine doesn't list anything after r2 sadly
[09:47 am] shark : eSignal, here comes joey!
[09:48 am] joeytsa : yeah..i really need to get with the program
[09:49 am] amersaeed : FMCN shorts are killing me..
[09:50 am] joeytsa : since that 1st early drop FMCN has been strong
[09:50 am] rusty : GEOY radar
[09:50 am] Brent : did you not use a stop amersaeed?
[09:51 am] amersaeed : No
[09:51 am] rusty : cancel GEOY volume too light
[09:51 am] shark : a little thin, rusty.
[09:52 am] joeytsa : good lesson learned amersaeed...guess you didn't read my book :)
[09:52 am] Brent : gotta use stops guys. No reason to take that much heat.
[09:52 am] apple : see joey, there is a book in there somewhere...
[09:53 am] joeytsa : yeah..one of these days
[09:53 am] Brent : know your risk before you enter. Know where your stop is going to be, and place it as soon as you are filled. It wouldn't be talked about so much if it wasn't important
[09:54 am] joeytsa : agreed Brent
[09:54 am] shark : Not having a stop, is like buying a car with NO BRAKES!!!
[09:55 am] apple : good one, shark -- so right!!!
[09:55 am] Brent : yeah, except the market doesn't have guardrails
[09:56 am] amersaeed : thanks Brent
[09:56 am] joeytsa : once it held S! it looked pretty strong
[09:56 am] joeytsa : S1
[09:56 am] Brent : just a friendly reminder amersaeed, not trying to be hard on you
[09:56 am] lisas : tough love
[09:57 am] amersaeed : I understand
[09:57 am] joeytsa : we've all don't that amer[09:58 am] joeytsa : i still do it from time to time
[09:59 am] jaiketrader : Brent What stops to you use .25 or % of the stock ?
[09:59 am] Brent : depends on where support and resistance is jaiketrader. I don't use a set %
[10:00 am] jaiketrader : So it is based on support and resistance
[10:23 am] chinhngo : SHORT ON PAY?
[10:24 am] Mitch K: no chingo[10:24 am] chinhngo : THANK MR MITCH
[10:24 am] Mitch K: it's an uptrending stock that makes new highs, it is a stock i look for a long on a shallow pullback, using indicators and watching market indexes at same time
[10:32 am] ryan70 : Mitch, I missed PAY long coz indicators were down when it turned up.
[10:32 am] apple : yes, thx MK
[10:32 am] apple : sure
[10:33 am] chinhngo : YES PLLEASE
[10:33 am] go4it : affirmative
[10:33 am] ryan70 : 1 min for entry as you said
[10:34 am] ryan70 : 6 min ago
[10:34 am] ryan70 : 10:29 PST
[10:35 am] stevemld : PAY nice call Mitch
[10:36 am] ryan70 : Yes
[10:39 am] apple : i remember seeing that picture of your dog staring...
[10:41 am] ryan70 : Go short PAY?
[10:44 am] apple : thx MK
[10:45 am] ryan70 : Yes, I'll wait until 43.75
[10:46 am] ryan70 : to go long
[10:46 am] ryan70 : PAY turns up now?
[10:47 am] ryan70 : OK thx Mitch
[10:56 am] rusty : IDCC radar
[11:01 am] chinhngo : SHORT IDCC MR RUSTY?
[11:02 am] mllamas -: great eye on IDCC rusty
[11:09 am] joe12 : thanks I was here until april and trying the week thanks seems as good as ever
[11:17 am] apple : joe did you have a different name?
[11:22 am] joe12 : yes gutto[11:22 am] Brent : lol[11:22 am] Brent : GUTTO
[11:23 am] Brent : welcome back
[11:44 am] joeytsa : so with the euro problems, the US issues including 11/23 vote, and iran nuke situation...hard to tell which is going to jump off first
[11:45 am] joeytsa : those are 3 huge weights on the markets
[11:45 am] apple : i hope they are not anchors...
[11:46 am] joeytsa : me either, and all 3 don't look like happy endings
[11:46 am] apple : daytrading is the only answer...
[11:46 am] joeytsa : oil would scream higher on the iran deal
[11:47 am] joeytsa : i don't think israel will take any chances
[11:48 am] apple : no
[11:48 am] ronfrac : Mitch: PAY is now showing lower hi's and lower lows. Time to consider short.
[11:50 am] ronfrac : That was a ?.
[11:51 am] joeytsa : indis are low on PAY, but its trending down
[11:52 am] rusty : CUB radar
[11:52 am] joeytsa : FDX looks like it want a new low
[11:53 am] joeytsa : i used to use FDX as a market indicator, got away from that one also for some reason
[11:54 am] apple : Thanks, MK, K and B (feel better) and everyone for another fun day. Everyone have a great evening. SEe you tomorrow.
[11:59 am] Brent : thx apple, see you tomorrow
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : yep
[12:01 pm] ryan70 : PAY turning up now?
[12:01 pm] shark : ok
[12:08 pm] shark : TOTALLY COOL! :)
[12:08 pm] joeytsa : it ROCKED :)
[12:09 pm] skydiver : Wow! Mitch is right on! Just jumped on for a minute and fun to see
[12:09 pm] shark : These trade's live, make my day here!
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : yeah shark
[12:12 pm] joeytsa : even if you just caught the middle of that move..have to work 8hrs/$40 hr to get that
[12:12 pm] mhaus : ALXN
[12:12 pm] joeytsa : nice mhaus[12:13 pm] ryan70 : Mitch, PAY went up and dropped suddenly. Can we go long again?
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : low volume day?
[12:14 pm] ryan70 : Thx Mitch
[12:15 pm] mhaus : 40 cents is not bad
[12:16 pm] joeytsa : AAPL lod[12:16 pm] joeytsa : 40cent is nice, especially when it comes quick
[12:18 pm] ryan70 : Yes Mitch, I entered PAY earlier than you said coz impatient
[12:18 pm] joeytsa : Mitch: besides what you wrote earlier on PAY...would that lower high also keep you from going long?
[12:22 pm] ryan70 : Mitch, stoch settings are different from Wizard DVD on scalping. I didn't see %W either.
[12:25 pm] ryan70 : But the concept is the same, right?
[12:28 pm] mhaus : MKTG
[12:29 pm] joeytsa : WLT hod[12:29 pm] lisas : ryan, they have changed setting they are using from when the dvd's were done. Mitch doesn't use % w anymore.
[12:30 pm] lisas : use setting you see on their charts now
[12:30 pm] mhaus : agreed. not much money
[12:31 pm] mhaus : SIMO
[12:31 pm] joeytsa : PAY trying for hod[12:35 pm] joeytsa : i see 3 inside bars forming
[12:36 pm] candelas : now a year ago, forget about it
[12:36 pm] shark : thx to you, my wallet is fatter this year, Mitch!
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : anyone see the cnbc interview with the guy from the $1M portfolio challenge?
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : they ask him what he is doing...he says FAZ,SDS,TLT....
[12:41 pm] shark : got a link, joey?
[12:42 pm] joeytsa : host goes " do you are bullish on long term equities? Are you longer term bullish on the uS market?
[12:42 pm] joeytsa : guy repeats himself and says no, i don't like anything long....
[12:42 pm] joeytsa : end of interview hahaha[12:43 pm] candelas : 2funny
[12:46 pm] candelas : what would really be funny is if he said I am neutral, I am a trader I take what comes to me long/short
[12:47 pm] joeytsa : they only want someone to say s&p 1500 :)
[12:47 pm] candelas : or buy buy buy[12:47 pm] joeytsa : he comes on at 3 haha[12:48 pm] joeytsa : re: WLT...double top on neg div made a quickie short for those who didn't listen to mitch[12:48 pm] Mitch K: is rusty around?
[12:48 pm] Mitch K: yea i see that joey
[12:48 pm] Mitch K: i am not really interested in it now,
[12:48 pm] joeytsa : but i didn't take it...i listened to you
[12:49 pm] joeytsa : wasn't worth the risk like you had mentioned
[12:49 pm] joeytsa : would have jumped on it if it was 7am though
[12:49 pm] dan : Brent, paper trading chart suppose to be delayed?
[12:49 pm] joeytsa : IOC dumping
[12:50 pm] Brent : which platform dan?
[12:50 pm] joeytsa : broke support around 48 and tanked
[12:50 pm] dan : think or swim
[12:51 pm] candelas : yep, walk down memory lane, u take it short, market spikes, u get stopped, then its revenge time., and u run out of time, then ur pissed cuz u gave profits away. Of course this is not what u want
[12:51 pm] Brent : it might be, but I'm not sure, I haven't used that one
[12:51 pm] joeytsa : don't remind me candelas
[12:51 pm] mhaus : TOS should be live quotes with paper trade too
[12:52 pm] joeytsa : but IOC was worth $5 the past 20 minutes
[12:53 pm] dan : i use tos too, but it seem like 15 mins delayed in prices
[12:53 pm] shark : IOC -reports after close.
[12:53 pm] shark : Hmmm.....cat get out of the bag?
[12:54 pm] mhaus : NILE
[12:54 pm] joeytsa : hmmmm[12:54 pm] joeytsa : hmmmm[12:57 pm] derns : IOC...looks like someone may know something....I hate that!
[12:57 pm] joeytsa : derns: they wouldn't do that would they? :)
[12:57 pm] derns : only those in Congress are permitted to do that!
[12:58 pm] joeytsa : $5 drop and almost a $4 pop
[12:58 pm] mhaus : Derns, did you watch 60 minutes http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-5732352 7/congress-trading-stock-on-inside-informatio n/
[12:59 pm] stevemld : good day guys thanks for all the help see everyone tomorrow
[01:00 pm] richard : Goodbye everyone...enjoyed the day...C U T
[01:00 pm] go4it : good call Mitch
[01:00 pm] joeytsa : one of the lowest volume days of the year
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: candles
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: got something funny
[01:05 pm] ryan70 : Today I tried to interpret your terms such as buy out rumor, near lod, bounce etc, what action should be taken?
[01:06 pm] taco : hey ryan, mention you are new tomorrow morn and Kris will let you know what their terms mean
[01:07 pm] joeytsa : each is an individual case ryan....
[01:07 pm] ryan70 : Joeytsa low volume means no good for trading? Which volume? The whole market?
[01:07 pm] joeytsa : lod (low of day) can either be construed as a possible bottom to maybe look for a long, OR it may be a huge sign of weakness to add to a short
[01:07 pm] taco : generally they are watching stocks and post them for us to watch and choose ourselves our own entries if at all...
[01:08 pm] joeytsa : i usually avoid low volume stocks...but others can do well with them
[01:09 pm] joeytsa : taco is correct..usually the alerts are just that
[01:10 pm] Mitch K: oh you guys trading something aftermarket?
[01:10 pm] joeytsa : no..i was trying to see if IOC was going to do something off of that big move at the end
[01:10 pm] ryan70 : I long GMCR, KMT, CTRP but all stopped out.
[01:11 pm] ryan70 : in this morning
[01:12 pm] lisas : ryan, maybe someone mentioned this, but unless you are already an experience trader, only paper trade, or simulator trade to start,
[01:12 pm] ryan70 : It was scary, fortunately I'm in sim[01:13 pm] taco : ryan go to the documents box in bottom right of trade room
[01:13 pm] joeytsa : constant learning Mitch
[01:13 pm] taco : start simming with the best they recommend
[01:14 pm] taco : that's what they recommend for day trading, what mitch kris and brent use
[01:15 pm] ryan70 : Do you mean broker-software package?
[01:15 pm] taco : yes
[01:16 pm] taco : that's what is best for day trade executions and brokerage commissions
[01:16 pm] taco : what's makes these guys so fast and profitable along with their experience
[01:17 pm] taco : i'm new too eh
[01:17 pm] taco : I'm simming ninja with IB
[01:17 pm] taco : it's amazing
[01:17 pm] joeytsa : well I'm out, everyone have a great day...thank you Mitch, Brent and Kris
[01:18 pm] joeytsa : time for research :)
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