Chat Highlights From 11/07/2013

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(05:23 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning, Unemployment claims and advanced gdp# up in 7min (05:39 am) JoeyTSA :early gap up: SSYS,SFUN,AWAY,CLDX,LPSN (05:40 am) JoeyTSA :early gap down: WFM,TSLA,SCTY,QCOM,INWK? (06:10 am) JoeyTSA :eye on GERN (06:17 am) Mitch's Assist. :November 7, 2013, Thursday Pre Market Up: CLDX, TREE, AEO, AMZN, BIDU, SSYS, GERN, NURO, TGT, IBM, MSFT, Pre Market Down: NUGT, GLD, SCTY, QCOM, IART, NSM, NVS, TTPH, HPT, WFM, WEN, AWI, MRC, TSLA,BIOS, FET, AAPL, FB, CHTR, (06:25 am) JoeyTSA :tighten GERN if long near $8 (06:31 am) Mitch King:watching GERN for top to short (06:31 am) Mitch King:watching AWAY for trades, short first (06:32 am) Mitch King:watching CSUN for trades, (06:32 am) JoeyTSA :CLDX moving up (06:32 am) Mitch King:TWTR indicating $35 (06:32 am) JoeyTSA :eye on ACAD (06:32 am) Mitch King:watching NPSP for top (06:32 am) Mitch King:watching SCTY for bottom to buy (06:33 am) Mitch King:watching EVC for bottom (06:33 am) JoeyTSA :SLCA for potential bottom (06:33 am) Mitch King:watchign TOL for top (06:33 am) Mitch King:solar stocks dumped today, FSLR should be strongest bouncer (06:33 am) Mitch King:watchi9ng FSLR for bottom (06:34 am) Mitch King:watching FLO for trades (06:34 am) Mitch's Assist. :watching ROK (06:34 am) JoeyTSA :eye on NSM also (06:35 am) Mitch's Assist. :monitoring TOL (06:35 am) Mitch King:monitorign TAP for downtrend (06:35 am) Mitch King:watching SINA for trades, no hurry (06:35 am) Mitch's Assist. :monitoring ROSE (06:37 am) Mitch's Assist. :monitoring CELG (06:37 am) Mitch King:CTL dropping, watch for potential bottom, take lot of time on this (06:38 am) Ed :ROSE monitoring for potential long (06:38 am) Mitch's Assist. :monitoring MLM (06:38 am) Mitch King:monitoring BR (06:38 am) JoeyTSA :tigthen SSYS if long (06:39 am) Mitch's Assist. :monitoring LGF (06:39 am) Mitch King:sorry (06:39 am) Mitch King:eog (06:39 am) Ed :on ROSE would like test @near 54ish level (06:42 am) Mitch's Assist. :monitor PRU for trending up (06:42 am) Mitch King:CL getting higher high (06:42 am) Mitch King:watching CXO for bounce (06:43 am) Mitch King:watchign TSLA for bounce (06:44 am) Mitch King:wathcing PXD for bottom, take time (06:44 am) Mitch King:watching PHH for short on top of bounce, take lots of time (06:45 am) Mitch King:watching JOE for top to short (06:46 am) Ed :ROSE still trying to setup (06:46 am) Mitch King:watching TWTC, TW Telecomm for bottom. needs higher vol and accelerated drop before interested (06:47 am) Ed :this will flush out more sellers (06:47 am) Ed :I would like another leg down on ROSE (06:49 am) JoeyTSA :tighten NSM if long (06:49 am) Ed :buyers are trying to hold this level on ROSE, but i will wait (06:49 am) JoeyTSA :ACN strong so far (06:50 am) Mitch's Assist. :monitoring NSM (06:50 am) Mitch King:the highest probability setup for an ipo is to let it drop multi points in consecutive fashion, preferably at higher volume. you want that FIRST BIG DROP for a potential long (06:51 am) JoeyTSA :indice sell off (06:52 am) JoeyTSA :eye on SFUN (06:52 am) Ed :only fluid info is that Draghi is speaking this am (06:52 am) Ed's assistant :Monitoring DATA (06:52 am) Ed :Any longs you want to time with bounce in SPY (06:53 am) Mitch King:looking for bounce in CL, probably 20-25 ticks (06:55 am) Ed :i will wait for retest of lod area (06:55 am) Ed :on ROSE, I passed eventhough setup was there, did not like r/r (06:56 am) JoeyTSA :tighten SFUN if short (06:56 am) JoeyTSA :eye on SSYS breakout potential (06:57 am) Ed :let me explain, r/r was fine, but had more to do with just 1 large bearish engulfin pattern on ROSE (06:59 am) Ed :nice call Diosna on DATA (07:00 am) Ed :SPY still weak (07:01 am) Ed :when SPY is weak, i pause on reversals for long, unless stock has EXTREME SELLING (07:03 am) JoeyTSA :eye on Z (07:09 am) Ed :SPY new lod (07:10 am) Ed :also, last point reason I like having SPY bounce along with trying to play reversal (especially if not extreme selling), is that its like having wind at your back (07:11 am) Ed :Speaking of reversals to play long since thats what we have been speaking on. But can apply same strategy for reversals for short (07:13 am) Ed :MW getting some chatter (07:14 am) Ed :MW CNBC's Faber: Activist investor to push sale process along - (07:15 am) JoeyTSA :watching SOHU (07:18 am) Ed :I heard this last night listening to Mark Douglas," YOUR PAPERTRADING ACCOUNT/SIM ACCT SHOWS WHERE YOU COULD BE IF YOU TRADED LIVE WITH CAREFREE, OPEN-MINDED, FLEXIBLE MINDSET" (07:19 am) Ed :SPY new lod (07:21 am) Ed :US) Preview: Weekly EIA Natural Gas Inventories expected at 10:30 ET (14:30 GMT) (07:21 am) Ed :SPY new lod (07:24 am) Ed's assistant :Monitoring CLMT (07:24 am) JoeyTSA :eye on CLMT (07:30 am) Ed :*(US) WEEKLY EIA NATURAL GAS INVENTORIES: +35 BCF VS. +34-38 BCF EXPECTED RANGE (07:33 am) Ed :SPY approaching lows (07:34 am) Ed :selling picking up (07:34 am) Ed :nice short call on CELG (07:35 am) Ed :news has just gotten out though to more outlets (07:35 am) Ed :reported fire this am TSLA vehicle (07:49 am) Mitch King:regarding the TWTR ipo, i wouldnt buy near the opening, dont get suckered into it long even if it goes up, you want to let it drop a lot (07:49 am) Ed :TWTR open (07:49 am) Mitch King:consider covering GERN if short (07:57 am) Mitch King:82% premium (07:57 am) Mitch King:neve rmind 82% (07:57 am) Mitch King:i would think about a 95% chance any allocation fund managers got on TWTR will start selling sometime today, especially with 75% premium over the ipo price (08:08 am) JoeyTSA :TWTR open book delays per lightspeed (08:09 am) Ed :SPY new lod (08:14 am) Mitch King:microtrade long on TWTR here (08:15 am) Mitch King:needs more selling (08:15 am) Mitch King:cancel that (08:20 am) Ed :SPY new lod (08:37 am) Ed :HNT had some news earlier (08:45 am) Ed :TWTR Hearing Pivotal Research downgrades to Sell from Buy, price target $30 (timing uncertain- (08:55 am) Murano :watching HMA (08:59 am) JoeyTSA :eye on NQ (09:05 am) JoeyTSA :/ES testing 1760 (09:26 am) Qwert :monitoring RIG (10:15 am) Mitch's Assist. :looking for small bounce in CL and then a short on top of that bounce (10:22 am) Ed :SWI starting to monitor (10:23 am) Ed :would like tad more selling, will not take it in htis area here (10:23 am) Ed :will be monitoring for potential long on SWI (10:48 am) Ed :SPY new lod (11:01 am) JoeyTSA :CTB vol spike (11:02 am) Ed :lower lows on SPY (11:08 am) Ed :Market Internals update at 14:00ET - NYSE volume 460M shares, about 36% above its three-month average; decliners lead advancers by 2.9:1. - NASDAQ volume 1.43B shares, about 38% above its three-month average; decliners lead advancers by 2.6:1. - VIX index +6.8% at just over 13.00 - Note: Twitter IPOed today on the NYSE (11:09 am) Ed :if u took SWI long would reduce in here (11:31 am) JoeyTSA :/ES to test S3 (11:44 am) Ed :(US) Preview: Sept Consumer Credit due out at 15:00ET (20:00 GMT) - Consensus expectation: $12.0Be v $13.6B prior (12:00 pm) Ed :*(US) SEPT CONSUMER CREDIT: $13.74B V $12.0BE (12:02 pm) Mitch King:Reminder: for those Portland workshop attendees, we have a review at 130pm pacific time. We are going to review any questions you have but most interested in looking at any homework you guys did (12:29 pm) Ed :SPY new lod (12:57 pm) Ed :have great eve (05:23 am) JoeyTSA :also nat gas @ 7:30pdt, consumer credit 12pdt (05:24 am) Qwert :good morning you been watching /GC (05:24 am) JoeyTSA :no, was into /CL though (05:24 am) JoeyTSA :i see /GC been wild though (05:25 am) Qwert :look at the /GC chart when they announced the rate cut went wild (05:25 am) JoeyTSA :i see, about $9 in a couple minutes (05:25 am) JoeyTSA :who cut rates, EUR? (05:26 am) Qwert :yeah i just watched it yes eur cut rates by .25 (05:26 am) JoeyTSA :looks like they went from .50 to .25 (05:27 am) JoeyTSA :hard to catch those, looks like there were 2 big reactions (05:28 am) JoeyTSA :/GC can be a bit volatile for my liking (05:28 am) Qwert :yeah so fast (05:29 am) JoeyTSA :/ES popped too (05:30 am) JoeyTSA :im watching /GC price on the dom, looks like someone on crack haha (05:31 am) Qwert :no doubt its crazy (05:38 am) JoeyTSA :think we will see 1780 +? (05:44 am) JoeyTSA :/CL nice moves so far too (05:46 am) electrader :gm everyone (05:47 am) taco :gm everyone (05:49 am) JoeyTSA :gm elec,taco (05:55 am) doji :Good morning fellas... (05:56 am) JoeyTSA :hey doji (05:56 am) alan3 :GM everyone. (05:57 am) JoeyTSA :hi alan, Good morning everyone (05:57 am) doji :At what time does TWTR start trading? (05:57 am) JoeyTSA :not sure (06:00 am) skydiver :gm all (06:00 am) Murano :good morning (06:07 am) rd :Good Morning to all (06:08 am) Mitch's Assist. :Twitter, TWTR is sadi to be oversubscribed by 30 times (06:08 am) rd :Doji i am hearing 10-1030 on twtr (06:08 am) JoeyTSA :should be very volatile (06:09 am) Mitch's Assist. :the fact that Facebook has recovered and gone higher than original IPO price about 17 months ago will help the stock to be stronger than FB flop at opening (06:09 am) skydiver :thnx Mitch (06:09 am) Mitch's Assist. :but there is still always a lot of selling pressure on the guys who are flipping, which are fund managers (06:09 am) Mitch's Assist. :they sell first and ask questions later. (06:10 am) JoeyTSA :i know sky is excited like its Christmas morning haha (06:10 am) skydiver ::) (06:10 am) skydiver :Merry Christmas to all :) (06:10 am) taco :lol (06:10 am) JoeyTSA :haha (06:10 am) skydiver :have Christmas songs playing ;) (06:10 am) JoeyTSA :sirius starts music next week (06:11 am) skydiver :next week? ok (06:11 am) JoeyTSA :i think 11/12 is when they switch to the Christmas channels, at least a couple (06:11 am) skydiver :ok (06:12 am) doji :Sky, you must own TWTR shares to be so excitted... (06:12 am) skydiver :no doji, but those who do I bet sure are :) (06:13 am) doji :Miych, do you think you can change your posts' backgound to a different colo? I have issues to read your post due to the contrast.... (06:14 am) JoeyTSA :the blue print doji ? (06:15 am) skydiver :or yellow brownish above? that's joey's (06:15 am) doji :no, the orange print (06:16 am) doji :Ha sorry (06:16 am) doji :Yesm that confirm that I cannot read well (06:16 am) JoeyTSA :thats mine (06:16 am) doji :Hey Joey, use black as background please.... lol (06:16 am) JoeyTSA :haha (06:17 am) JoeyTSA :not sure what other colors are available (06:17 am) doji :Pink? ROse? (06:17 am) skydiver :GERN rallies after abstract drug posted for limetelstat in myelofibrosis (06:17 am) JoeyTSA :will check with Mitch later (06:18 am) doji :Thanks Joey... (06:18 am) taco :thx for gaps Mitch Joey (06:18 am) JoeyTSA :you dont listen to me anyways haha (06:18 am) doji :Eye on TSLA, has the highest O/I on weekly calls at $140 (06:18 am) doji :hahahha (06:22 am) JoeyTSA :sky: the musician in me hates twitter because # is a sharp sign, not a darn hashtag :) (06:23 am) skydiver :gotcha joey . . .:) :) (06:23 am) JoeyTSA :i knew you would :) (06:24 am) skydiver :I agree totally :) (06:24 am) JoeyTSA :def watching 1770 on /ES as support (06:25 am) doji :Did any get the move in GERN? (06:26 am) skydiver :no -- missed it doji (06:26 am) JoeyTSA :i went small doji (06:27 am) doji :I went only 1000 shares also Joey (06:28 am) JoeyTSA :i went smaller than that haha (06:32 am) doji :FB (06:32 am) taco :OXBT (06:33 am) JoeyTSA :thx taco, forgot to put that up today (06:34 am) skydiver :ipo -MVNR - open (06:34 am) skydiver :how low is TSLA going? went short earlier, but thingking need to take some off the table here (06:34 am) JoeyTSA :missed NPSP from yesterday (06:35 am) JoeyTSA :no clue sky (06:35 am) taco :highest oi is 140 doji posted earlier sky (06:35 am) skydiver :me too joey :) (06:36 am) doji :OXBT long 6.98 (06:38 am) JoeyTSA :not in SSYS, just saw chart that had gap up (06:39 am) doji :Missed SCTY... dang (06:40 am) skydiver :trailing stop on TSLA short (06:40 am) skydiver :broke thru support of 141 (06:41 am) doji :Below $140 with volume will be nice (06:41 am) doji :APPL (06:41 am) skydiver :thnx doji . . (06:42 am) skydiver :covered 3/4 on TSLA here (06:42 am) doji :Long TSLA at 141 (06:43 am) skydiver :all out of TSLA short here (06:44 am) doji :Out TS:A (06:45 am) doji :Dang missed short in FB (06:45 am) skydiver :heard TWTR up to around $40 now from fly on the wall news (06:46 am) skydiver :TWTR - looking between $40 and $44 (06:46 am) doji :Trading alredy? (06:47 am) JoeyTSA :eye on /ES to see if 1770 holds now (06:47 am) skydiver :not yet doji -- sorry -- getting ready to launch it and priced around the 40 dollar area at moment (06:47 am) skydiver :still no time yet on when it weill open - JOY - take over chatter (06:47 am) doji :Are you at the trading floor Sky? (06:47 am) doji :Me too Ed... just watching (06:48 am) JoeyTSA :AAPL near hod, most other big names closer to lod area (06:48 am) skydiver :thnx Ed for info on ROSE (06:48 am) skydiver :JOY moving up on speculation of an investor's stake (06:48 am) doji :I said $140 would be support for TSLA (06:49 am) skydiver :good call doji (06:49 am) doji :But nver trust me (06:49 am) doji :Me too Ed.. thanks for the lesson (06:49 am) Ed :ur the man doji (06:50 am) JoeyTSA :i always think of doji when i see those commercials with the most interesting man in the world haha (06:50 am) Ed :me too joey (06:50 am) doji :Hahahaha.... Good one Joey (06:51 am) JoeyTSA :i dont always trade..but when i do..my internet is garbage haha (06:51 am) doji :Thanks Mitch (06:51 am) Qwert :hahahah (06:51 am) JoeyTSA :any news? (06:52 am) JoeyTSA :agreed, that was a fairly quick selloff (06:53 am) regatta :just watching PWE, low price (06:54 am) doji :CTRP (06:54 am) JoeyTSA :eye on BIDU, lod (06:54 am) doji :Ed, still waiting for more selling in ROSE? (06:55 am) doji :I wnent long at 53.4 (06:56 am) skydiver :yes - watching BIDU (06:57 am) taco :right ed (06:57 am) skydiver :monitoring JOY (06:58 am) JoeyTSA :i came into today thinking markets would be strong (06:58 am) JoeyTSA :seems a bit heavy though (06:59 am) taco :nice call DATA diosna (06:59 am) JoeyTSA :good reason to not trade what you think (06:59 am) taco :almost got it but missed entry (06:59 am) skydiver :good lesson joey for all of us (06:59 am) skydiver :Ed pushed that concept hard at the seminar (07:00 am) doji :Thanks Ed, really appreciatted (07:00 am) JoeyTSA :im sure, today good example (07:01 am) doji :TSLA slowly trending up... (07:01 am) skydiver :nice doji on TSLA long (07:02 am) doji :Long SFUN 49.77 (07:02 am) skydiver :thanks Ed (07:02 am) Ed :TSLA, in class by itself as had lost quite a bit last 2 days, so can bounce with or without spy (07:02 am) skydiver :gotcha on that Ed -- TSLA being quite extreme (07:02 am) Ed :This is why I use same approach for Extreme sellers, when looking for reversals long (07:03 am) JoeyTSA :very good plan Ed (07:03 am) Ed :right like rubberband theory (07:03 am) skydiver :good review Ed from seminar - thnx - getting this into my head better each day :) (07:03 am) doji :Great Ed (07:04 am) doji :Rubber band like SFUN Ed? (07:04 am) Ed :glad to hear sky, this is why reviewing each night helps (07:04 am) Ed :right doji (07:04 am) skydiver :yes . . . take lots of review and practice to get this to become automatic thinking properly :) (07:04 am) doji :Watching also CTRP por potential reversal from yesterday (07:04 am) Ed :then its matter of seeing if risk v. reward makes sense for ur style of trading (07:05 am) skydiver :right Ed :) thanks again . . great lesson (07:05 am) JoeyTSA :all great points (07:05 am) doji :Does anyone have the notes from the seminar who can share with this poor man? I have 5 wives and 21 children to feed.... (07:06 am) Ed :plus a secretary :) (07:06 am) skydiver :are you down a wife or two doji? I thought you had 7 wives ? (07:06 am) JoeyTSA :21 kids, you got a new one? (07:07 am) skydiver :new movie out about some guy who has like 535 kids - looks funny (07:07 am) Ed :Joliff/GUM, how goes it? (07:07 am) doji :No, keeping the same... I am up one chikd.. was born when I was on a businee trip for over a year... my wife said it's mine... (07:10 am) skydiver :missed the short on GERN (07:10 am) doji :Tailwind (07:11 am) taco :i thought i heard an irish accent ed (07:11 am) Ed :lol (07:14 am) doji :Watching CTRP (07:19 am) doji :Mine is zero Ed... lol (07:19 am) Ed :lol (07:19 am) skydiver :good point . . . just need to "pretend" doing sim when actually doing real money :) (07:20 am) skydiver :everyone taking money out of market to use it to buy into TWTR? (07:21 am) Ed :I know some say differently, but when I sim traded CL for 6 months, right after that I would quickly logon and had set so could not tell difference if I were in sim or live. (07:21 am) Ed :that was back in Aprill 2011 (07:22 am) skydiver :interesting way of doing it Ed (07:22 am) Ed :other way, is to make the share size so small that its really insignificant, like 10 shares (07:23 am) skydiver :TWTR now looking like $45 - $47 (07:23 am) skydiver :gotcha Ed (07:23 am) skydiver :KORS trying to bounce? (07:23 am) Ed :TWTR should be fun interesting (07:23 am) Ed :trying is right (07:25 am) JoeyTSA :/CL trying to hold S1 (07:29 am) doji :I went long CTRP at 49.92.... holding stop 50.23 (07:30 am) JoeyTSA :thx Ed (07:31 am) Ed :when ur trying to keep ur job, have to make it seems like ur useful (07:31 am) Ed ::) (07:31 am) JoeyTSA ::) (07:31 am) JoeyTSA :great moves today, see you all in 20 (07:31 am) Ed :since blockbusters gave me my walking papers (07:31 am) JoeyTSA :haha (07:31 am) Ed :i worked the shift 1am to 1:30am (07:32 am) taco :u just went for you rlunch break (07:32 am) Ed :right (07:32 am) taco :haha (07:32 am) doji :Taking 1/2 in CTRP... it's cooling off (07:33 am) doji :Watching TSLA (07:35 am) doji :TSLA confirm third fire involbing Model S (07:36 am) skydiver :thnx doji for info on TSLA fire (07:36 am) Ed :thx doji (07:36 am) doji :Premium seller via put holding TSLA here.... (07:36 am) skydiver :and thnx Ed ;) (07:37 am) doji :Next O/I level is $135 although 1/3 of the $140 level (07:39 am) doji :That is why my order to buy at $140 was filled... (07:39 am) skydiver :TWTR now looking $46 (07:39 am) doji :Where do you that numbers Sky? (07:40 am) skydiver :Fly on the Wall audio doji (07:40 am) skydiver :they give out lots of the pre-data on ipo's (07:41 am) doji :Any website for IPO? I remember some one posted time ago (07:41 am) skydiver :I remember someone did but can't recall it at moment doji (07:50 am) skydiver :thnx Mitch . . . was thinking that (07:50 am) doji :Trading now (07:50 am) doji :Open price 45 (07:50 am) doji :Highg 47 (07:53 am) skydiver :my price was filled at 45.51 - ouit 46.71 - only small position (07:53 am) skydiver :TWTR (07:54 am) skydiver :I think I'm done with TWTR for now (07:54 am) doji :OXBT (07:54 am) doji :50 shares? (07:55 am) skydiver :dud 100 doji is all (07:55 am) skydiver :only 100 share doji -- not sure how I typed dud (07:56 am) doji :CTRP moving up nicely (07:56 am) skydiver :okay . . .been a good day in stocks . . . \CL simulation .. I need more practice -- see you all later and again thanks for everything :) (07:57 am) JoeyTSA :enjoy sky (07:57 am) taco :cya sky (07:57 am) JoeyTSA :ipocentral at hoovers is decent site (07:57 am) skydiver :;) (07:58 am) JoeyTSA :32M so far TWTR (08:00 am) alan3 :Have a good day guys off to work. (08:00 am) taco :cya alan (08:00 am) JoeyTSA :enjoy alan (08:03 am) Ed :c ya alan (08:04 am) JoeyTSA :TWTR giving nice pullback, still use caution (08:05 am) doji :DId get shares to short Joey? No shares in TOS (08:06 am) JoeyTSA :no, dont think you can short ipo (08:06 am) JoeyTSA :went long on it, took a gamble (08:07 am) JoeyTSA :watching it here, nicer if gets back to 46 (08:07 am) doji :Interesting that FB and TWTR openend at the same price in their IPO day (08:08 am) doji :Wtach on TSLA... broke the $140 level... (08:11 am) JoeyTSA :ROSE turned into a great trade (08:13 am) doji :TSLA also nice short (08:14 am) gum :Thanks Mitch for GERN and FLO (08:17 am) Ed :gum is here (08:19 am) doji :Gone Ipo' opening price (08:23 am) JoeyTSA :fda to ban transfats (08:24 am) JoeyTSA :now to see which stocks that will affect (08:25 am) doji :Ticker: TRAN (08:28 am) gum :Ed, Great morning, still using old charts. Unable to download new ones. (08:30 am) JoeyTSA :good to hear gum (08:30 am) Ed :good to hear about ur morning. Not sure whats happening with download (08:30 am) Mitch's Assist. :what have you been trading gum (08:30 am) JoeyTSA :if old charts are working, good :) (08:31 am) gum :GERN and FLO (08:31 am) Mitch's Assist. :nice ones (08:34 am) JoeyTSA :TSLA back to $140 (08:34 am) doji :Nice micro rebound in TSLA... $140 very strong support so far (08:34 am) Ed :both of those were nice (08:35 am) JoeyTSA :slight move in /CL (08:36 am) Murano :HNT trying to bottom?? (08:37 am) Murano :HNT having a really bad day (08:38 am) Ed :i know they reported but there was some other news (08:39 am) JoeyTSA :ugly day for them (08:39 am) doji :HNT long (08:39 am) Ed :o well, (08:39 am) doji :25.73 (08:39 am) Murano :their earning were ok so mut be some other news (08:39 am) Ed :yea it was, cant find it (08:40 am) doji :R/R 33c to $1.5 (08:41 am) JoeyTSA :cant complain about 5:1 (08:41 am) doji :If it gets ti S3=WVAP = 27.6 (08:42 am) doji :stop below $26... just let it run.... (08:42 am) doji :Thanks HNT Murano.... (08:45 am) Ed :this is too funny already (08:45 am) Ed :dongrade on TWTR (08:46 am) Murano :downgrade on IPO day, that is funny (08:46 am) Ed :yea it is (08:46 am) doji :That is the nice part of the market, everyone has an opinion but nobody is right... (08:50 am) doji :Added to my long in HNT.... (08:51 am) Ed :nice trading doji on HNT (08:51 am) Qwert :doji what price did you add at? (08:52 am) doji :26.63 (08:52 am) Qwert :I am trying to incorporate adding at key areas (08:52 am) Qwert :thx (08:52 am) doji :so my average is 26.18.... (08:52 am) Qwert :nice (08:52 am) doji :It held $26.5.. (08:53 am) doji :Will trim 1/2 at 27.5 and trail the other 1/2 (08:53 am) JoeyTSA :great trading doji (08:54 am) doji :Thanks. I wish I could have more time for day trading but you know, having to keep five wives happy is not easy.... it's a high demaing work... (08:54 am) JoeyTSA :hit and run, just like your dating practice :) (08:54 am) Qwert :Doji did you start with 1/2 position? and then get to full when you added? (08:55 am) doji :I started with full positiion and then I doubled it (08:56 am) Qwert :okay thx (08:56 am) doji :Moved stop at 26.73 (08:56 am) doji :Dang missed FSLR (08:58 am) Murano :out 3/4 HMA (08:59 am) Murano :out last 1/4 HMA (09:01 am) doji :All out HNT.... (09:01 am) doji :well stopped.... (09:07 am) doji :Any idea what caused the selling on the market? (09:08 am) JoeyTSA :i didnt see anything, also assuming this upmove is just buying the oversold area? (09:09 am) JoeyTSA :market has me confused actually (09:16 am) doji :It was the GDP data that caused the selloff Joey (09:16 am) doji :Watching TSLA (09:17 am) JoeyTSA :/TF testing S1 res (09:18 am) JoeyTSA :thx doji, didnt even pay attention to it because came out same time as jobs (09:19 am) JoeyTSA :looks like gdp # were an improvement? (09:20 am) JoeyTSA :eye on OAS pullback (09:33 am) Murano :HNT past 28 (09:34 am) taco :watching it M, nice (09:34 am) taco :could have re-entered over 27 (09:35 am) doji :Yes Murano, the quick drop at 12:00 triggered my stop \... (09:38 am) gum :Murano, Thanks for HNT (09:39 am) Murano :happy to help gum (09:39 am) taco :gum was one of the lifes of the party in portland (09:40 am) taco :real charatcer (09:40 am) JoeyTSA :gotta love characters (09:40 am) taco :him and his friend, forget his screen name, were trouble makers ;) (09:41 am) Qwert :Gum could be a stand-up comedian very funny (09:41 am) Qwert :taco thats his brother (09:41 am) taco :oh ya cool (09:41 am) gum :Taco, that was my Brother (09:41 am) Ed :his brother (09:41 am) taco :you look alike lol (09:42 am) JoeyTSA :move to vegas gum start a comedy routine (09:42 am) Ed :his brother is quiet one compared to gum (09:43 am) JoeyTSA :good to have a 2nd banana (09:43 am) taco :both fantastic (09:43 am) taco :pleasure meeting them both (09:43 am) JoeyTSA :in case you guys havent noticed, i like to laugh :) (09:43 am) gum :Thanks Joey, leaving for Verga (09:44 am) JoeyTSA :where is verga ?? (09:44 am) JoeyTSA :planet from star trek? (09:44 am) Qwert :lol (09:44 am) gum :Thats in Mississippi (09:45 am) JoeyTSA :oh ok (09:45 am) Ed :m i crooked letter, crooker letter, hump back I, .............. (09:46 am) JoeyTSA :never been to Mississippi, supposed to then gig got cancelled (09:46 am) gum :Ed, you got it ! (09:46 am) taco :ed's circuit shorted (09:46 am) Ed :lol (09:48 am) JoeyTSA :had booking in Vicksburg but was nixed (09:49 am) taco :nice onRIG qwert (09:49 am) Qwert :thx still working :) (09:49 am) taco :thought i should mention a stock before mitch thought we were goofing around (09:51 am) Qwert :thx good idea :) (09:52 am) klas :Ha TSA grew hows it going? (09:52 am) JoeyTSA :hey klas (09:52 am) klas :Hey joey (09:53 am) Ed :hey mike how goes it (09:53 am) klas :great Ed day job in the way of trading (09:54 am) Ed :great part ur making $$ though (09:54 am) klas :Is there a webinar on Thunder today? (09:54 am) Ed :not sure (09:54 am) taco :pretty sure klas yes (09:55 am) klas :I never received the home work but did a bit of my own (09:55 am) klas :Taco is it in this room after trading (09:55 am) taco :not sure (09:56 am) klas :I need to change a afternoon apointment if so (09:58 am) Murano :have an appointment this afternoon, see you tomorrow (09:58 am) taco :cya murano (09:58 am) JoeyTSA :bye murano thanks (09:58 am) Qwert :bye Murano (09:59 am) gum :Murano, good job !! (09:59 am) Ed :c ya murano (10:02 am) JoeyTSA :nice trading on the indices today (10:03 am) JoeyTSA :early lunch, see you in 40 (10:31 am) doji :SWI long 34.2 (10:31 am) doji :stop at b/e (10:32 am) doji :SWI rebounded from the 78.6% Fibonacci.... nice (10:33 am) doji :$35 is the 62% retracement (10:37 am) JoeyTSA :ROSE trying to bottom again? (10:49 am) JoeyTSA :cnbc cheerleaders dont have their pom poms out today (11:02 am) Mitch's Assist. :hey klas (11:03 am) JoeyTSA :thx Ed, premarket i was wondering if we would jump from 1776 to 1780+ haha (11:05 am) Ed :the heaviness we felt yesterday coming to fruition today (11:05 am) JoeyTSA :yeah and wasnt yesterday all time high? (11:05 am) Ed :yep (11:05 am) JoeyTSA :crazy (11:09 am) doji :Hey Ed, where do you get that infor from? (11:09 am) JoeyTSA :thx Ed (11:09 am) Ed :trade the news (11:09 am) doji :tradethenews.com? (11:09 am) Ed :yes (11:10 am) JoeyTSA :seems like a good site (11:10 am) Ed :yep get news for stocks/futures/forex (11:11 am) Ed :rather news that will impact those markets (11:11 am) doji :Do you have to sign in? (11:11 am) JoeyTSA :need to check them out, i did the free trial at briefing, good stuff there too (11:11 am) Ed :yes i have a subsription (11:11 am) JoeyTSA :briefing used to have much more free stuff back in the day (11:11 am) doji :What is your Username and Password Ed? (11:11 am) doji :Hahahahaha (11:11 am) Ed :lol (11:12 am) JoeyTSA :user- Private password - Dancer (11:12 am) Ed :user (blockbuster) password (dancer) (11:12 am) Mitch King:you can get briefing free with most brokers (11:12 am) JoeyTSA :hahaha (11:13 am) doji :TDA? (11:13 am) JoeyTSA :Mitch : i think i can on one of mine, i never check though (11:13 am) JoeyTSA :is that for the Actice Trader service also? (11:15 am) Mitch's Assist. :not sure but i paid subscription to briefing and then found it on most brokers website, i know schwab has it, probably others (11:15 am) JoeyTSA :i think schwab/optionsxpress do..actually forgot all about it (11:15 am) JoeyTSA :havent logged in to those accounts in a while (11:16 am) JoeyTSA :will check later today, but was impressed with what i saw the past few weeks (11:18 am) JoeyTSA :eye on /CL, might test $94 (11:21 am) JoeyTSA :so all-time high yesterday, massive pullback today..any thoughts on tomorrow? (11:21 am) JoeyTSA :esp with opx and weekend? (11:21 am) Ed :cough cough (11:22 am) JoeyTSA ::) (11:22 am) JoeyTSA :market is open monday correct? (11:22 am) Ed :yes (11:22 am) JoeyTSA :might be light vol though (11:23 am) JoeyTSA :just like Columbus Day (11:23 am) JoeyTSA :think i might sleep in that day (11:32 am) pirate :ROSE getting vol (11:33 am) JoeyTSA :what was the news on ROSE today, lots of action on it (11:35 am) Ed :they reported uesterday some downgrades, and one more thing issue notes i thinkk (11:36 am) JoeyTSA :oh ok, thanks (11:36 am) Qwert :yeah issued senior notes i think joey (11:36 am) Qwert :450 million offering (11:39 am) doji :More selling in ROSE (11:39 am) JoeyTSA :they were $65 a week ago (11:40 am) Qwert :Been a nice trader today rose :) (11:40 am) JoeyTSA :had about $8 drop then $4 bounce (11:40 am) Ed :feels like Z was 100 just few weeks ao (11:40 am) Ed :ago (11:40 am) Ed :yea rose been good un (11:40 am) JoeyTSA :yeah another one that took it on the cin (11:40 am) JoeyTSA :chin (11:42 am) Qwert :Joey when you trade /ES what do use for tgts how many tics? (11:42 am) JoeyTSA :kind of depends, i do a bit too much instinct based (11:43 am) JoeyTSA :and also depends on if i have an atm turned on or not (11:43 am) Qwert :been a nice short for a long time now was just looking at the chart (11:44 am) JoeyTSA :last it depends on if i am microtrading it or not (11:44 am) Qwert :do you use a 1 min chart or tic chart? (11:44 am) JoeyTSA :2 tick charts, a 578 and 340 (11:45 am) JoeyTSA :will microtrade with the 340, the 578 usually a combination of pivots and price level targets (11:45 am) doji :And also depends if he is awake or still sleeping (11:45 am) doji :If he has pants or not (11:45 am) JoeyTSA :haha (11:45 am) Qwert :hahahaha (11:45 am) doji :Anything you want to know Qwert? (11:46 am) JoeyTSA :like that test of S3 a few minutes back, using 1747 as profit target seemed like no brainer to me (11:47 am) Qwert :do you try and keep a runner or all in all out? (11:47 am) JoeyTSA :usually all in/out (11:48 am) JoeyTSA :esp on microtrades (11:48 am) JoeyTSA :as sky and mitch call them (11:48 am) JoeyTSA :once 1747 held, next target was 1750 (11:49 am) Qwert :pivots look like they are pretty important (11:49 am) JoeyTSA :push thru 1750, next up target i would look for is 1752-53 (11:50 am) JoeyTSA :mainly because they are based off of previous price levels (11:50 am) JoeyTSA :Ed uses price action/levels so he wouldnt need pivots on his chart, i just like having that visual target (11:51 am) JoeyTSA :i use pp's on my stocks also, but TS and LS calculate differently, so depending on what chart/platform my trade is on..i just use that chart (11:51 am) Qwert :theres some pretty good looking signals from thunder and lightning on thos time frames you mentioned (11:51 am) JoeyTSA :im very caveman like in my approach (11:52 am) JoeyTSA :and i use Lightning on futures along with those levels (11:52 am) Qwert :i try and keep it much simpler than i used to (11:52 am) JoeyTSA :may take a trade without a lightning signal, but if one shows up in what i think is an entry area, all the better (11:52 am) JoeyTSA :i have wayyyy too much on my charts (11:53 am) JoeyTSA :thats why its hard to be exact when i make a call (11:54 am) JoeyTSA :one trade i will use pp as a target, next setup might use darvis line as target (11:54 am) JoeyTSA :ideally they all line up on a nice rd # and make things simple (11:54 am) JoeyTSA :but i also want jessica alba to deliver my pizza tonight :) (11:54 am) Qwert :yeah i always use first place of resistance for longs on a target (11:55 am) Qwert :she is hot (11:55 am) JoeyTSA :thats for futures (11:55 am) JoeyTSA :for stocks i do throw in an eyeball scan of r/r (11:56 am) JoeyTSA :one day im going to just mess around with /ES and use a 1 tick target, see how many times i can hit it haha (11:56 am) Qwert :hahah (11:57 am) JoeyTSA :maybe 2 (11:57 am) JoeyTSA :make 1000 trades one day hahah (11:58 am) Qwert :when your scalping /ES are you going for 8-10 tics at a time (11:58 am) JoeyTSA :with my luck it would be the one day in my trading lifetime where i nail exact tops/bottoms and lose my butt (11:58 am) JoeyTSA :i start off with 4 usually (11:58 am) JoeyTSA :manually adjust it, thats if i have the atm on (11:59 am) JoeyTSA :8 is a good target though (11:59 am) Qwert :okay thx (11:59 am) Qwert :might sim trade it to test thunder (11:59 am) JoeyTSA :like that 1747 entry, if target was 1750, then 8tick target is great, should hit it (12:00 pm) JoeyTSA :kind of like if i think a stock will get to $60, i might set target at 59.90 for example (12:00 pm) JoeyTSA :thx Ed (12:00 pm) Qwert :right okay thx (12:00 pm) JoeyTSA :just in case momentum doesnt quite get there (12:02 pm) Qwert :so with that 1747 entry as example where do you put initial stop? (12:02 pm) Qwert :under swing low? (12:03 pm) JoeyTSA :4-6 ticks, sometimes 8 (12:04 pm) JoeyTSA :my atm is set at 8 on 1 chart, 4 on the other (12:04 pm) Qwert :okay so risk reward 1-1 or 2-1 (12:04 pm) doji :Is it today Mitch? (12:04 pm) JoeyTSA :yeah, lower than i like on stocks (12:04 pm) JoeyTSA :actually its 1:2 on one of them (12:05 pm) JoeyTSA :thats the initial setting, then just adjust it up (12:06 pm) Mitch's Assist. :yes it is for the workshop attendees doji (12:06 pm) JoeyTSA :and i dont recommend that, its just what i have things set as (12:07 pm) Qwert :i understand you can always slide up (12:07 pm) Qwert :or down (12:07 pm) JoeyTSA :right (12:08 pm) JoeyTSA :Thanks Mitch,Ed,Diosna,Qwert,traders (12:09 pm) JoeyTSA :have a great day, see you tomorrow (12:09 pm) taco :cya joey (12:09 pm) Ed :c ya joey (12:10 pm) doji :See ya tomorrow, nice trading today (12:10 pm) Ed :c ya doji (12:10 pm) taco :cta doji (12:11 pm) doji :Bye tacobell (12:11 pm) doji :Chanhe your alias to "burrito".. lol (12:12 pm) taco :yo mamma better :) (12:14 pm) gum :Thanks to all, still short on JOE (12:15 pm) Ed :nice trading gum (12:16 pm) Qwert :That daily spy chart gonna look pretty nasty if we close here? (12:58 pm) taco :thanks everyone, cya in the am or in the workshop (01:06 pm) klas :see you in 30 min
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