Chat Highlights From 11/04/2011

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:12 am] Mitch : i think we are setting up for another really good day in trading today. we are getting some selling pressure now from an anticipated no confidence vote in Greece but yet positive influences from the jobs report
[06:17 am] Mitch : i sent you guys the link to the lesson recast and will send another one from early October lesson later today.
[06:20 am] Mitch : this INHX should give excellent long scalps, doubt there are short inventory out there but worth a try. Main news helping INHX is the safety and antiviral data. Also articles saying INHX will be like VRUS as company
[06:21 am] Mitch : check your spam or junk email folder if you didn't see the email, sent it soon after market closed
[06:22 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:22 am] Kris : Today I'm watching for longs in HRL, HPT, AWK, AMAG, SKUL and CHK
[06:22 am] Kris : Watching for possible shorts in HGSI, SLF, WAG, EVEP, SGEN and OPTR
[06:23 am] Kris : For those of you new to the room
[06:23 am] Kris : We have a recommended brokers/platforms document in the documents library in the lower right hand corner of this room.
[06:24 am] Brent : good morning
[06:24 am] Kris : It's the most active in the room the first 2 hours of the day and then the volatility typically slows down so there are less trades posted later in the day.
[06:28 am] Kris : 2 minutes, time to rock!
[06:28 am] Mitch : see this drop in INHX, going to be a good long at the bottom of this drop
[06:29 am] Mitch : now a 1 min chart
[06:31 am] Kris : HANS long half
[06:31 am] Kris : watching MTZ for a long
[06:32 am] Kris : WRC long
[06:32 am] Mitch : watching CHK for long
[06:33 am] Mitch : consider selling half of INHX
[06:36 am] Kris : out half HANS long
[06:37 am] Kris : NFLX short
[06:37 am] Mitch : consider reducing most of CHK long
[06:37 am] Mitch : if you went short INHX, could really drop hard today
[06:37 am] Mitch : nice job on INHX guys
[06:38 am] Kris : SKUL long half
[06:39 am] Mitch : AMAG short soon
[06:39 am] Mitch : watching for short in FSLR
[06:40 am] Kris : getting some volatility just over 125 support in SPY
[06:40 am] Kris : she's fighting hard to hold it
[06:40 am] Mitch : lower low on INHX , important for short
[06:40 am] Mitch : monitoring MTZ for short, no hurry
[06:41 am] Kris : SPY coming down to test lod[06:41 am] Mitch : watch for new low below 7.70 on INHX for shorts
[06:42 am] Kris : will watch for a CECO pullback to take long
[06:42 am] Mitch : going to use a rebound in INHX to fill another short
[06:42 am] Mitch : looking for 28.25 area to cover CHK short
[06:42 am] Mitch : new low in INHX
[06:42 am] Mitch : watching X for short
[06:43 am] Kris : out another 1/4 HANS long
[06:43 am] Mitch : another top in CE today
[06:43 am] Mitch : CHK trades over now, look for something else
[06:44 am] Mitch : new low in INHX, lower low, hold shorts
[06:44 am] Mitch : top in X
[06:45 am] Mitch : looking for $7 area in INHX
[06:46 am] Kris : getting ready for a TNA long over 48.08
[06:46 am] Mitch : top in GMCR
[06:47 am] Kris : XCO long
[06:48 am] Mitch : watching for top in SWKS to short
[06:49 am] Brent : good eye irvinglee[06:49 am] Brent : Watching PANL for a short
[06:50 am] Mitch : watching for top in PANL
[06:52 am] Kris : NFLX consolidating off the lod and weak against the markets
[06:52 am] Kris : out half XCO long
[06:53 am] Kris : looking for lower lows in NFLX soon
[06:53 am] Kris : X SHORT
[06:53 am] Mitch : downtrend resuming in INHX
[06:53 am] Mitch : looking for lower low below 7.58 eventually
[06:53 am] Mitch : missed WIN bottom but watching for top at some point for short
[06:54 am] Kris : she is coiling up for a break one way or the other
[06:54 am] Kris : SPY testing lod again
[06:55 am] Kris : out half X short
[06:55 am] Mitch : consider reducing GMCR short here around 67.75
[06:56 am] Kris : out half NFLX short
[06:56 am] Mitch : consider reducing CE short
[06:57 am] Kris : out another 1/4 XCO long
[06:58 am] Kris : out another 1/4 NFLX short
[06:59 am] Kris : watching CHK for a long soon
[06:59 am] Mitch : new low in indexes
[07:00 am] Kris : out another 1/4 X short
[07:01 am] Mitch : MDVN turning over
[07:03 am] Kris : CHK long half
[07:05 am] Kris : long 1/4 position CECO
[07:05 am] Kris : thinking longer term trade on CECO
[07:05 am] Kris : will build into it
[07:06 am] Kris : FFIV long
[07:08 am] Mitch : consider covering FSLR
[07:11 am] Mitch : KSU bouncing
[07:13 am] Kris : CREE breaking out
[07:13 am] Mitch : missed VRUS bounce but monitoring for short at top of this bounce, no hurry
[07:14 am] Mitch : watching for short in GMCR again but prefer lower high
[07:15 am] Kris : out half FFIV long
[07:16 am] Kris : out all NFLX short
[07:20 am] Kris : SPY just broke to new lod[07:22 am] Kris : long second half CHK
[07:23 am] Mitch : $20.25
[07:23 am] Mitch : looking for $68 for GMCR short
[07:23 am] Mitch : looking for 20. 25 area for SWKS short
[07:25 am] Mitch : i would not trade GRPN without a specific plan. you don't have history to create reliable indicators. i think best strategy is to look for first BIG drop and buy that bottom in increments, small small small positions
[07:26 am] Kris : trading IPO is like stevie wonder driving the indy 500
[07:26 am] Mitch : AMRN drop
[07:27 am] Brent : with Ray Charles as his spotter
[07:27 am] Kris : AMRN nice one
[07:27 am] Kris : did we have news on AMRN today?
[07:29 am] Mitch : consider selling AMRN 7.45 area
[07:31 am] Mitch : too dangerous to short AMRN my opinion
[07:33 am] Mitch : don't try to retire by trading GRPN today
[07:33 am] Mitch : this is not the stock (or any stock) to try to make up for 4 years of losses
[07:33 am] Mitch : warning on GRPN trading; this is dangerous stuff, going to be big spreads, slower execution on day 1 of IPO, turn down the emotions and testosterone. you can really get hurt on an IPO like this. Wait wait wait for big drop, if not a big drop, don't trade it.
[07:34 am] Mitch : if there is a good setup, use extra small position size
[07:34 am] Mitch : if there is not a good setup, don't trade it
[07:34 am] Mitch : your mantra should be, wait for first big multi point drop before even considering any long
[07:37 am] Mitch : this is no TGLO, Teleglobe that ipod at 7 but opened over $200
[07:38 am] Mitch : GRPN has not opened yet
[07:39 am] Mitch : now, it is very possible, almost probable that if we see a multi point drop on GRPN that it doesn't bounce, has a lot of negative press, lot of skeptics so the selling could follow shortly after a wimpy bounce.
[07:40 am] Mitch : GRPN probably doesn't have the VIagra bounce unless something like an $8 point drop from the top in consecutive drop
[07:40 am] Mitch : INHX near low of day last 2 min
[07:43 am] Kris : SPY trying to break trendline resistance
[07:43 am] Kris : trying to put in a bottom
[07:44 am] Mitch : $7.58 probably holds for most of day on INHX
[07:44 am] Mitch : consider covering XCO short
[07:45 am] Kris : and we're off to the races
[07:45 am] Mitch : 30 second chart candles on left for GRPN
[07:45 am] Mitch : GRPN open
[07:46 am] Mitch : 1 and 2 min charts on GRPN
[07:46 am] Mitch : forget 30 second, no history
[07:47 am] Mitch : GRPN not super strong
[07:48 am] Kris : watching DMND for a long
[07:48 am] Mitch : average of 9 cent spread
[07:48 am] Mitch : this could be a waste of your time but good lesson to observe
[07:49 am] Mitch : required to use limit orders by most brokerage firms
[07:49 am] Mitch : still not strong for IPO
[07:50 am] Mitch : don't want bounce off of $29
[07:50 am] Mitch : this is the beginning of what i am looking for but want to see new lows
[07:51 am] Mitch : i don't think this GRPN going to be a good trading stock for IPO
[07:51 am] Mitch : we want to see GRPN diving well below $27
[07:52 am] Mitch : so far, you have what I call backing and filling
[07:53 am] Mitch : don't try to trade GRPN the way its acting so far
[07:53 am] Mitch : I'm not looking at any other stocks now, full time GRPN, ok this is better but needs to drop consecutive candles hard
[07:54 am] Mitch : just wait and watch
[07:54 am] Mitch : just waiting and watching, we want this type of behavior
[07:55 am] Mitch : it's all a ratio of risk vs. reward
[07:55 am] Mitch : shoot, trying to bounce off 27.50, argh,
[07:55 am] Mitch : still too much risk for me for the potential profit, I'm passing the 27.50 bounce
[07:59 am] Mitch : but too hard to trade GRPN with high odds. Something interesting would be down elevator to $25
[07:59 am] Mitch : losing interest in GRPN, will monitor
[07:59 am] Mitch : starting to watch other stocks, TZOO dropped nicely
[08:03 am] Mitch : ok, see that attempted bounce on GRPN, from 27.50 area to 28.50, then lower low? tells me the bounces will be weak and the drops will be much stronger
[08:04 am] Mitch : and to make money on something like this, a weak IPO, is the drop has to be much much larger than what we have seen to get the odds in our favor on the long side
[08:04 am] Mitch : i think eventually going to be a tradable bounce but not yet at this price
[08:06 am] Mitch : a bounce here would be weak, you need to see the sellers really flush out in a panic
[08:06 am] Mitch : new low on GRPN,
[08:06 am] Mitch : no surprise
[08:06 am] Mitch : VECO interesting short possibility,
[08:07 am] Brent : SPY at trendline resistance
[08:07 am] Mitch : at specialty trading boutiques
[08:07 am] Mitch : ok there you go, see that drop
[08:07 am] Mitch : you can get shares of GRPN to short, probably next week, but might have to pay a fee of maybe $1 a share to borrow them
[08:08 am] Mitch : acting the way we want
[08:08 am] Mitch : forget $25, lower target
[08:08 am] Mitch : see why i say not to touch that
[08:08 am] Mitch : talking about GRPN here
[08:08 am] Mitch : would like increased vol and larger down candles in consecutive fashion
[08:09 am] Mitch : it's trying to bounce off 26
[08:09 am] Mitch : still too weak
[08:14 am] Mitch : looking for over 27
[08:14 am] Mitch : trying GRPN at 26.38
[08:16 am] Mitch : another min or 2 on GRPN rise
[08:16 am] Mitch : indicators on IPO not reliable, only level 2, experience and hunch
[08:17 am] Mitch : probably wimps out soon on GRPN bounce
[08:17 am] Mitch : that's about it folks, all we can hope for now,
[08:17 am] Mitch : yeah, that's it for me,
[08:18 am] Mitch : no scars on my wrists today
[08:18 am] Mitch : now, that hardly happens anymore because market has so much fear and really what took the steam out of GRPN is all the bad press
[08:19 am] Mitch : it's just another tool in your bag, more of a specialty tool you use 3 times a year at most
[08:20 am] Mitch : if any of you work with your hands and build or repair stuff, especially cars, you can get exotic tools that are really useful but only a few times,
[08:20 am] Mitch : no chingo, please, no don't trade it, you haven't told me if you have live real time charts yet
[08:20 am] Mitch : well, this IPO strategy is another one
[08:21 am] Mitch : maybe rusty can make GRPN stock chop suey on CHinese restaurant sign
[08:21 am] Mitch : not sure i understand your question steele, i would take a break and come back and look for something else.
[08:21 am] Mitch : what is likely going to happen now is just chop
[08:22 am] Mitch : chingo, charts are free through your broker
[08:22 am] Mitch : no chingo, we cannot support you properly unless you get some tools. CHIngo, at least go to http://www.freestockcharts.com and use their charts, it's slow though
[08:29 am] Mitch : later rusty, thanks for the laughs and the memories
[08:29 am] Mitch : watching VLO for top but so-so idea. do you know what you do with so-so ideas?
[09:28 am] Mitch : this bottom in GRPN was caused by the Fast Money guys on CNBC and some other guests bashing GRPN stock
[09:31 am] Mitch : The Italian bond yields spiked as people sold the bonds themselves
[09:32 am] Mitch : I think we see more downside volatility with Italian now coming into spotlight with their problems, all good news for traders though
[10:07 am] Kris : could be a good quickie long over 39.15
[10:07 am] Kris : watch FIO for a breakout to new highs
[10:13 am] Mitch : monitoring MCP for top
[10:14 am] Mitch : not much vol on MCP though
[10:26 am] Kris : JNJ blood thinner wins FDA approval
[10:26 am] Kris : JNJ news
[10:34 am] Kris : JEF breaking out
[10:35 am] Mitch : looking for a short here DRWI
[10:51 am] Mitch : ABANDONING drwi SHORT IDEA
[11:11 am] Mitch : did anyone trade JEF?
[12:09 pm] Kris : SPY coming into trendline support at 125 area
[12:27 pm] Mitch : this JEF has been good trading stock last 2 days
[12:27 pm] Mitch : wish we had more time left
[12:30 pm] Kris : if SPY breaks this support trendline here we could get a little selling into the close
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a great weekend, see you on Monday
[01:02 pm] Kris : see you all back here Monday morning
[01:02 pm] Kris : enjoy your weekend
[06:10 am] rusty : I do the low prices ones long for eoy/Jan effect esp if trading near cash
[06:10 am] electrader : Another one - Trading in the Zone - same author
[06:10 am] qwert : trading in the zone by mike douglas is really good
[06:13 am] pandozzi : i gotta say ever since i started using your system I've never made so much money trading. Account up 20%
[06:13 am] taco : that's great to hear
[06:13 am] rusty : GRPN scheduled to open at 10:40
[06:15 am] rusty : SGEN gap down
[06:17 am] khall : thanks mitch - I watched the lesson last night - very helpful
[06:18 am] qwert : got it and listened again thanks mitch[06:18 am] shark : THANK YOU, Mitch!
[06:19 am] rusty : GSVC gapping up
[06:21 am] storage : Mitch was that send email , the link to lesson?
[06:30 am] rusty : INHX 7's
[06:32 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 INHX
[06:35 am] scalpman : All out INHX L thanks mitch...
[06:35 am] shark : RUSTY - what's that possible sympathy GRPN stock you found?
[06:36 am] rusty : GMCR hod[06:36 am] rusty : GSVC shark - low floater
[06:36 am] electrader : l INHX 8.10 s 1/2 - 8.24 1/4 - 8.40 last 1/4 - 8.70
[06:38 am] anthonyb : CBS
[06:38 am] rusty : FSLR hod[06:39 am] jsn13 : MTZ is fantastic...thanks....
[06:39 am] ben4givn : win
[06:39 am] trvlntrdr : eL moving up sharply
[06:41 am] chinhngo : please call when short fslr[06:41 am] rusty : WYNN hod[06:44 am] chinhngo : x is short now or just wait?
[06:45 am] anthonyb : chinhngo wait for it to stop going up! X
[06:46 am] anthonyb : SBUX
[06:46 am] shawnt4 : is X still a good short
[06:47 am] Kris : X is looking very good
[06:47 am] Kris : just be patient
[06:47 am] observer : TEX HOD
[06:47 am] Kris : I'll post when I enter
[06:47 am] Kris : we have increasing volume and accelerating price
[06:48 am] irvinglee : PANL ripping
[06:49 am] skydiver : EL has gone up nicely today as well
[06:49 am] mikewd2 -: X
[06:50 am] mikewd2 -: another head fake on X
[06:51 am] mikewd2 -: nice call on XCO
[06:52 am] mhaus : HIG rumor
[06:56 am] skydiver : out 1/2 PANL
[06:57 am] skydiver : all out of PANL
[06:57 am] irvinglee : VRUS
[06:57 am] rusty : MDVN radar
[06:59 am] mikewd2 -: Groupon IPO to open sometime today, be careful
[06:59 am] mikewd2 -: SPY lod[07:00 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 X +.27
[07:00 am] rusty : JAZZ radar
[07:00 am] anthonyb : all out FSLR
[07:01 am] Kris : GRPN should open at 10:40am EST
[07:01 am] candelas : watch for BIDU bottom, if spy can bottom
[07:02 am] Kris : nice one candelas
[07:02 am] Kris : BIDU juicy
[07:03 am] rusty : AMRN patent rejection
[07:03 am] rusty : radar
[07:03 am] electrader : s X - 27.21 c 1/2- 27.10 2nd half -26.96
[07:03 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 sbux +.43
[07:04 am] rusty : JAZZ ALERT
[07:04 am] anthonyb : stopped on PANL
[07:05 am] joemas99 : why 1 min chart on x and 2 on inhx?
[07:07 am] mikewd2 -: out X 26.88, thanks Mitch
[07:08 am] rusty : JAZZ bounce
[07:10 am] dbzdbz : s mdvn 42
[07:10 am] anthonyb : out MDVN even
[07:10 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 JAZZ
[07:11 am] mikewd2 -: MDVN hod[07:11 am] skydiver : Nice one Rusty - JAZZ
[07:13 am] anthonyb : stopped on remainder of SBUX +.02
[07:13 am] rusty : CECO hod[07:14 am] anthonyb : out JAZZ
[07:16 am] anthonyb : thought about shorting JAZZ too slow on the trigger
[07:17 am] rusty : CHK lod[07:17 am] rusty : radar
[07:17 am] trvlntrdr : Kris do you think Bidu will make it much past VWAP?
[07:18 am] Kris : check your resistance levels
[07:18 am] Kris : 142.00
[07:18 am] trvlntrdr : yes I thought that was major recent resistance, near vwap[07:19 am] trvlntrdr : but it didn't seem like much of a bounce
[07:19 am] rusty : MDVN nhod[07:19 am] trvlntrdr : that is where I have my target, 141.95
[07:19 am] rusty : MDVN 89 rsi[07:20 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 CBS +.24
[07:21 am] mikewd2 -: MDVN hod[07:22 am] rusty : GRPN L2 lining up
[07:23 am] storage : is anyone short WYNN
[07:24 am] Mitch : thanks rusty
[07:24 am] anthonyb : MDVN starting to get that "look"
[07:25 am] shark : what is L2, rusty?
[07:25 am] Kris : level 2
[07:26 am] rusty : someone bidding 1600 for GRPN rofl[07:26 am] anthonyb : I'm done for the day, family coming over for the weekend. Wife says, "clean your office" lol[07:27 am] rusty : AMRN alert
[07:27 am] shark : AMRN -potential patent delay
[07:28 am] rusty : AMRN alert
[07:28 am] Kris : I don't see it
[07:28 am] Kris : did you get that news rusty on the AMRN patent?
[07:28 am] shark : posted 11/2 news
[07:28 am] rusty : yes above
[07:28 am] Kris : tradethenews?
[07:28 am] shark : that news 2 days old
[07:29 am] Kris : speculation?
[07:29 am] rusty : http://www.biorunup.net/Attachments/AMRN_pate nt.pdf
[07:29 am] rusty : patent rejection
[07:29 am] Kris : that is old news
[07:29 am] Kris : gotcha
[07:30 am] Kris : thanks
[07:30 am] anthonyb : 7 trades today. 1 loss 1 even 5 wins. I can't repeat enough how the webinar has helped me. See you all monday. thanks Kris, Brent , and Mitch.
[07:30 am] rusty : sorry lil busy here
[07:31 am] Brent : good job anthonyb, have a great weekend
[07:32 am] Mitch : nice job anthony,
[07:32 am] derns : Mitch...MDVN has run up so much over the past 2 days...is it too risky to short?
[07:33 am] monster : vrtx[07:33 am] steele : CHK long seems not working
[07:34 am] rusty : CHK down move getting extended
[07:34 am] mikewd2 -: CHK at support about now
[07:35 am] Kris : I'm still in CHK long
[07:35 am] Kris : gonna stay patient
[07:35 am] steele : I stopped out. reenter
[07:36 am] skydiver : GRPN - opens 5 minutes - will watch and learn - thnx Mitch for your wisdom on this
[07:37 am] mikewd2 -: MDVN
[07:38 am] apple : thx MK for your help
[07:38 am] shark : WOW!
[07:38 am] shark : What love to see the chart action replayed on that
[07:38 am] steele : Nothing in GRPN chart
[07:38 am] Mitch : rusty, you remember TEleglobe, TGLO
[07:38 am] jsn13 : shorted MDVN at 44.2 and covered at 42.76....Thanks for the call....
[07:38 am] Kris : it hasn't opened yet steele, about 2 minutes
[07:39 am] steele : I see
[07:39 am] Kris : GRPN moved to 10:45
[07:39 am] qwert : inhx near lod[07:39 am] mh : nice jsn13 almost did the same but got a phone call darn
[07:39 am] rusty : TGLO old friend, lol[07:39 am] storage : out !/4 s INHX 7.66
[07:40 am] Kris : AMRN getting defended
[07:40 am] rusty : AMRN defended by analyst LEER
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: Obama G20 talk
[07:40 am] Kris : lol[07:40 am] Kris : JP Morgan defending AMRN
[07:40 am] Mitch : nobody defending Obama
[07:41 am] Kris : were they just on a conference call
[07:41 am] victor51 : Mitch, Tx for INHX
[07:41 am] storage : Mitch thanks INHX
[07:41 am] shark : maybe they should postpone GRPN -don't want the Obama effect
[07:41 am] steele : CHK stopped out again
[07:42 am] rusty : CHK getting interesting here based on daily chart
[07:44 am] qwert : watching veco[07:44 am] shark : rusty- CHK I see double top, h&s pattern, further breakdown for possible retest to low -all moving averages upside down
[07:45 am] bopp : Please help me out here on a Friday and I promise to do better next week. I did what I said I didn't do and took AIG and IPGP home last night. Is there hope that they will rebound today or should I take my losses and regroup?
[07:46 am] khall : wow
[07:46 am] khall : on the grpn - crazy
[07:46 am] shark : my $21.01 limit order didn't get filled
[07:46 am] truck : out half,,,ETN[07:47 am] mikewd2 -: touched 30
[07:47 am] rusty : GSVC lod - reacting as expected
[07:47 am] mhaus : Bopp, what are your entry prices?
[07:47 am] mikewd2 -: spread not huge
[07:47 am] shark : looks like peak GRPN
[07:48 am] khall : CHK finally trying to go up!
[07:48 am] mikewd2 -: CHK
[07:48 am] truck : out 1/4 ETN
[07:48 am] bopp : AIG 24.72/IPGP 52.69
[07:48 am] jsn13 : Long CHK at 27.17
[07:48 am] neuronx : That company is just opened GRPN?
[07:49 am] mhaus : AIG has resistance at 23.6
[07:49 am] mikewd2 -: added to CHK 27.10 long
[07:49 am] mhaus : if it breaks that the next would be 23.86
[07:49 am] steele : I dare not touch CHK again
[07:51 am] skydiver : Wow - below $27? Fun to watch
[07:51 am] shark : You prefer a "V" pattern, Mitch?
[07:52 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, a bit boring on GRPN
[07:52 am] apple : just observing
[07:52 am] rusty : http://www.businessinsider.com/is-groupon-sto ck-overvalued-2011
[07:53 am] rusty : Blodget re GRPN
[07:53 am] shark : Volume 12M shares GRPN
[07:53 am] Kris : DMND starting to look interesting
[07:55 am] derns : GRPN...I just don't believe in the fundamental business model there...I'm in the camp that it will see single digit days in 1 year
[07:55 am] irvinglee : TZOO
[07:55 am] hobart : DMND - Is there a little gap around 46.70?
[07:56 am] shark : DMND - accounting irregularities -Pringles purchase from P&G in doubt
[07:59 am] rusty : RIMM back near hod[08:00 am] rusty : AMRN small bounce off lod[08:00 am] qwert : veco running hard
[08:00 am] shark : NFLX roundtrip from yesterday's action. Could put a mirror on that chart.
[08:01 am] rusty : FSLR 52's
[08:01 am] richard : watching VECO
[08:02 am] rusty : http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/fslr/short-inter est
[08:02 am] rusty : FSLR high short interest
[08:03 am] apple : there goes GRPN
[08:04 am] candelas : nice one Qwert[08:04 am] richard : IDCC
[08:04 am] shark : I HOPE IT CLOSES BELOW $20
[08:04 am] skydiver : On new IPO's one can't short the stock - is that correct or not?
[08:04 am] shark : Hard to get shares skydiver
[08:05 am] Brent : not for at least 30days I think skydiver
[08:05 am] skydiver : Thanks Brent -
[08:05 am] Mitch : too low vol on IDCC richard, thanks though
[08:06 am] richard : TY...I see that now
[08:06 am] shark : dropping below the OPEN price -GRPN SWEET!
[08:06 am] shark : die, GRPN, die!
[08:07 am] rusty : CHK bounce
[08:07 am] candelas : still in downtrend
[08:08 am] skydiver : GPRN still dropping
[08:08 am] shark : die, GRPN, die!!!
[08:08 am] shark : drop below OPEN
[08:08 am] shark : go, go, go!
[08:08 am] skydiver : How low will GPRN go I wonder?
[08:09 am] khall : kris, what is your email?
[08:09 am] khall : i have a question that is not urgent and can be answered after close
[08:10 am] Kris : kris@tradestocksamerica.com
[08:10 am] shark : Rusty - check out the other sympathy trade TZOO
[08:11 am] mikewd2 -: VECO new hod[08:13 am] shark : building a possible bottom GRPN
[08:14 am] jsn13 : Kris what is your average price for CHK and what price target are u looking for?
[08:14 am] rusty : JAZZ re alert
[08:14 am] Kris : my average is .56
[08:14 am] khall : go Mitch, go
[08:14 am] mikewd2 -: good luck Mitch
[08:15 am] Kris : I'm looking for .95
[08:15 am] ronfrac : inhx moving up
[08:16 am] shark : re-test resistance at opening price
[08:17 am] mikewd2 -: nice play mitch[08:17 am] shark : TOTALLY AWESOME, Mitch!
[08:17 am] storage : wow you're the King
[08:17 am] shark : you 'da first in, first out!
[08:18 am] mikewd2 -: just watched
[08:18 am] rusty : nice work Mitch
[08:18 am] candelas : greaaat call Mitch
[08:18 am] shark : Back to your regularly scheduled shark mantra - die, GRPN, die!
[08:19 am] chinhngo : so set grpn at 26.48 for long is ok?
[08:20 am] rusty : GSVC slammed after Groupon IPO.
[08:20 am] khall : CREE Short setup?
[08:20 am] steele : Mitch, if that IPO is too good and rocketing can we get that chance?
[08:21 am] shark : SPY / DIA retesting near lod[08:21 am] candelas : too late for cree short
[08:21 am] khall : yep
[08:22 am] Kris : if anyone is long DMND, this is a good point to take some or most off and move up your stop
[08:23 am] kittel1 : what is the list or the best day trade stoke?
[08:23 am] chinhngo : I JUST SUBCRIBER STOCKSCHART.COM LAST NIGHT MAY BE NEXT MONDAY WILL BE OK
[08:23 am] mikewd2 -: Kris, you shooting for 27.95 for your CHK?
[08:24 am] Brent : who is your broker chingo[08:24 am] Kris : yes mike
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: ok, my avg is 27.32
[08:24 am] candelas : VECO hod[08:25 am] scalpman : VECO ....still watching for short
[08:26 am] chinhngo : BUY COVER EL AT 116.65
[08:27 am] trvlntrdr : I was wrong about EL yest pm, I thought it would stay strong. But I sure didn't buy any over night
[08:27 am] skydiver : VLO - take over chatter
[08:28 am] scalpman : VECO S quick profit...got the drop but still strong...
[08:29 am] rusty : thanks for a fun morning... have a good afternoon everyone
[08:29 am] Kris : have a good one rusty
[08:29 am] dano : monitor
[08:29 am] electrader : Don't trade them
[08:30 am] skydiver : Look for another stock and skip this VLO --
[08:30 am] trvlntrdr : go slow on so so[08:30 am] shark : JVA alert!
[08:31 am] Mitch : JVA no good shark
[08:32 am] mhaus : AIXG
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: 3min fade on AIXG?
[08:33 am] truck : watching ,,,, ACOR
[08:35 am] Mitch : mikewd you still long GRPN?
[08:35 am] Mitch : looks turning over to me
[08:35 am] mikewd2 -: i didn't trade GRPN
[08:35 am] mhaus : mike, still showing strong
[08:35 am] mhaus : waiting for it to turn over
[08:35 am] pow : BAX
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: only active trade is CHK currently
[08:37 am] taco : thx for dmnd[08:37 am] mikewd2 -: mhaus, no shares to short for me on AIXG anyway
[08:37 am] khall : anybody else in this VECO short?
[08:38 am] mhaus : had a good long on SINA
[08:38 am] khall : congrats!
[08:39 am] talaakil : would u give an opinion on amzn pls[08:39 am] mhaus : entry 80.03 - out 82.00
[08:40 am] mhaus : out early, buy happy!
[08:41 am] taco : thx for aixg too!
[08:41 am] Kris : I don't see a trade in AMZN at this price
[08:41 am] Kris : maybe a short under 214.20
[08:41 am] Kris : but not really interested
[08:42 am] hobart : Kris - thx for the exit call on DMND L-46.90 out 48.10
[08:43 am] taco : nice hobart[08:43 am] pow : VFC
[08:43 am] Kris : great job hobart, nice entry price
[08:49 am] mikewd2 -: Kris, can you explain the 27.95 target on CHK
[08:49 am] pow : out of BAX
[08:50 am] mikewd2 -: Kris, never mind I see it
[08:52 am] mh : mitch do you see a short developing in INHX
[08:52 am] steele : Any idea? What are you watching now?
[08:52 am] mhaus : VECO
[08:52 am] khall : I'm in VECO short
[08:53 am] steele : I chickened out VECO 5 min ago
[08:53 am] mhaus : watching UPL
[08:54 am] pow : watching for bottom i cedc[08:54 am] khall : steele, I adjusted the stop at that point
[08:54 am] steele : UPL interesting
[08:55 am] electrader : Possible resistance on UPL 35.07 on daily
[08:56 am] mikewd2 -: VECO L 29.34
[08:57 am] mhaus : FFIV
[08:59 am] scalpman : In and out on VECO L...bounce looks weak
[08:59 am] pow : ABMD
[09:00 am] scalpman : But I hope it runs up...
[09:00 am] steele : UPL short 34.83
[09:00 am] scalpman : About quitting time for me. 11:00 CST.
[09:01 am] taco : INHX running up
[09:02 am] steele : Oh no UPL
[09:02 am] pow : great taco....watch too
[09:04 am] derns : IACI...looking for a 3 min fade short
[09:05 am] Kris : not a good setup derns[09:05 am] derns : Kris...not enough volume? Thx
[09:05 am] irvinglee : what u think about UPL short?
[09:06 am] dano : $ move...not @ 3%
[09:06 am] monster : grpn again mitch[09:08 am] taco : INHX for 1%
[09:08 am] badboy : Kris/Mitch I sent u guys an email did you get a chance to read it??
[09:09 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on VECO
[09:11 am] electrader : maybe long on VECO at 28.40 mikewd2 ??
[09:11 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, looking to reenter maybe
[09:12 am] gumroadboy : last post on trading room is 08:29 am, is this correct?
[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: always get burned on the first bounce
[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[09:12 am] electrader : easy to do in this market
[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: they get quite after first couple hours, minimal good trades after 2 hours
[09:12 am] electrader : looks like possible support at 28.40 on daily
[09:14 am] scalpman : UPL S
[09:15 am] bopp : INHX is having so much fun and I'm out and afraid to get back in.
[09:15 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 UPL S
[09:16 am] steele : Mitch, stoch setting: period 10, %K 8, %D 7, correct?
[09:16 am] scalpman : Target 35.10
[09:16 am] scalpman : ...UPL S
[09:16 am] mhaus : OIS
[09:17 am] mikewd2 -: pretty low vol on OIS
[09:17 am] Brent : that's correct Steele
[09:17 am] scalpman : OUt another 3/10
[09:17 am] scalpman : .UPL
[09:18 am] scalpman : Thanks mhaus for UPL...good one...
[09:20 am] scalpman : All out UPL
[09:21 am] scalpman : Great day 8/10....Thanks for excellent calls from all today.
[09:21 am] gumroadboy : last post in trading room is 08:29 am, is this correct ?
[09:22 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[09:22 am] candelas : time period 12:05 to 12:06est is another nice chart pattern
[09:23 am] candelas : for GRPN
[09:25 am] electrader : VECO looking better mikewd2
[09:25 am] mikewd2 -: watching it
[09:27 am] mikewd2 -: VECO L 28.85
[09:29 am] candelas : that's the nice area I was speaking of
[09:33 am] candelas : we nub volatility
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: out VECO 29.08
[09:33 am] derns : Italy could be the big kahuna
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: not liking it long
[09:33 am] candelas : then after itally, spain, the portugal[09:34 am] taco : i see the value of 2 min chart Mitch for INHX
[09:34 am] mikewd2 -: then back to US
[09:34 am] candelas : making me dizzy
[09:35 am] mikewd2 -: CHK looking weak again
[09:37 am] mikewd2 -: JAZZ
[09:38 am] mikewd2 -: FIO
[09:39 am] irvinglee : FIO cnbc spike
[09:40 am] mikewd2 -: breakout? all time high
[09:41 am] mikewd2 -: no shares to short at etrade[09:43 am] mhaus : watching FSLR
[09:45 am] chinhngo : fio short T37.87 IS OK?
[09:45 am] mikewd2 -: I'd be careful shorting it
[09:46 am] chinhngo : NO SHARE TO SHORT ANYWAY BUT THANK MIKEWD2
[09:46 am] mikewd2 -: did look like a good 3min fade though short
[09:46 am] mikewd2 -: set up that is
[09:46 am] mikewd2 -: who u trade with chinhngo[09:47 am] chinhngo : CHARLES SCHWAB AND OPTION EXPRESS
[09:48 am] mikewd2 -: Brent: FIO setting up for 3min fade short?
[09:49 am] mikewd2 -: i couldn't get shares
[09:49 am] chinhngo : SELL CALL NOV OF FIO IS OK?
[09:50 am] mikewd2 -: probably not a good idea for day trade options, better on swings.
[09:50 am] mikewd2 -: but check with the TSA guys for their opinion.
[09:51 am] Brent : don't like FIO for 3min fade Mike cause it's breaking out on daily
[09:51 am] mikewd2 -: ok, good point and yearly high
[09:54 am] jewels0 : MCP supposed to get the pump on CNBC this afternoon
[09:55 am] mhaus : VRSK breakout on daily
[09:57 am] candelas : if ur were not looking to put high odds in ur favor, and u are quick and nimble, u could have shorted FIO, but like Brent said its breaking out on daily and u would be going against overall strong trend
[09:57 am] chinhngo : LONG OR SHORT INHX ?
[10:00 am] candelas : what time frame do u trade off of Chinhngo?
[10:02 am] kittel1 : Hi, where can I get a list with the best stocks for day trading with most jumps?
[10:02 am] chinhngo : DAY TRADING
[10:03 am] chinhngo : TRY TO GET 200.00 DOLLAR FOR EACH TRADE
[10:03 am] kittel1 : yes please
[10:03 am] kittel1 : but what symbols?
[10:03 am] kittel1 : what stocks?
[10:03 am] candelas : 1min,3min,5min,15min,etc
[10:03 am] candelas : try http://www.finviz.com
[10:03 am] steele : Kittel1, Mitch taught us how to find beta for stocks. But I don't remember it is hard for beginners.
[10:04 am] chinhngo : I JUST FOLLOW ADVICE FROM ANALYSIST AND YOUR GUYS
[10:05 am] kittel1 : thanks
[10:05 am] kittel1 : is there any advice to do now?
[10:06 am] shawnt4 : would Fio fusion be a short
[10:07 am] candelas : and u want to search under beta
[10:07 am] shawnt4 : looks like it did a double top
[10:07 am] mikewd2 -: i don't think so shawn[10:07 am] mikewd2 -: are you long on FIO Kris
[10:08 am] candelas : like i mentioned earlier as well as Brent, FIO is not a high odds short bcuz u would be going against an overall strong trend on daily
[10:09 am] candelas : it's not to say u can't make money on short side, just that we like the extremely high odds plays for strategies
[10:10 am] Kris : no I am not long on FIO
[10:11 am] Kris : I will take a long on the breakout
[10:11 am] dmitry : What's up with the spread on FIO?
[10:15 am] trvlntrdr : panl moving up
[10:15 am] trvlntrdr : resistance at 50.88
[10:22 am] mhaus : watching HANS
[10:40 am] Kris : and it failed at previous day high consolidation area
[10:40 am] rusty : Missing MF Millions Tun Up In An Account At JP Morgan
[10:41 am] mikewd2 -: ERTS S 26.05
[10:42 am] rusty : http://www.businessinsider.com/found-the-miss ing-mf-millions-in-an-account-at-jp-morgan-20 11-11
[10:43 am] candelas : Panl hod[10:43 am] mikewd2 -: go MCP
[10:44 am] candelas : cnbc can wake up a stock or put it to sleep
[10:45 am] mikewd2 -: out half ERTS 25.75
[10:45 am] candelas : spy breakout from consolidation
[10:46 am] mikewd2 -: RIG hod[10:47 am] mikewd2 -: WFT hod[10:48 am] mikewd2 -: out half MCP 40.45
[10:49 am] mikewd2 -: moved stops for erts, mcp to b/e[10:50 am] Brent : nice alert on PANL Candelas
[10:51 am] mikewd2 -: 1/4 more MCP 40.65
[10:52 am] mikewd2 -: moving stops up
[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: changing to trailing stops on MCP
[10:53 am] rusty : NFLX radar
[10:54 am] mikewd2 -: all out, Wow thank you CNBC for ERTS and MCP
[10:56 am] mikewd2 -: Kris: you keeping your CHK over weekend
[10:56 am] Kris : I'm out CHK mike
[10:56 am] rusty : VRUS downgraded
[10:56 am] mikewd2 -: i know i shouldn't make a day trade into swing, but considering on CHK
[10:56 am] trvlntrdr : I have the grpn chart up and every time I look at it gives me a start because for a second, I think I have a position in it.
[10:56 am] Kris : bad idea
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: ok, ty[10:57 am] Kris : if it gaps under 26.50 you're gonna take a real beating
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: thought i would sneak that one out there
[10:57 am] Kris : and with the way things are going
[10:57 am] Kris : anything can happen over the weekend.
[10:58 am] Kris : she's acting like she's gonna give up the lod soon
[10:58 am] steele : CHK stopped out twice and I dare not touch again
[10:58 am] Kris : you had a good entry, you didn't take any off on that run up into .75?
[10:58 am] mikewd2 -: ok, moved my stop a bit lower than lod, and will sell before close.
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: no, i should have
[10:59 am] Kris : yeah, once you get ahead on something like that take some profit, at the minimum move your stop to breakeven.
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, i know better!!!!
[10:59 am] Kris : if it breaks down you can always re-enter later in a better spot if it presents itself
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: those are the mistakes that usually kill me, especially then holding over.
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: thanks Kris for advice
[11:03 am] rusty : Greek PM to speak shortly
[11:03 am] mhaus : HANS going up again
[11:04 am] lightning : The Greek PM will unveil his 9-9-9 plan. It borrows $9 billion, spends $9 billion and asks for $9 billion more later.
[11:05 am] rusty : rofl lightning
[11:05 am] rusty : that's funny
[11:05 am] mhaus : IART
[11:07 am] lightning : maybe the Greek PM will say that he found $9 billion in an account at JPMorgan too.
[11:08 am] trvlntrdr : I hope greece didn't have any money in MF global
[11:09 am] rusty : and vica versa
[11:11 am] mhaus : LNKD
[11:11 am] richard : AMBD
[11:11 am] trvlntrdr : I was in at 11.90 and took profit at 12.15
[11:11 am] joemas99 : in jef at 12.16
[11:12 am] steele : I am watching JEF for short
[11:12 am] Mitch : is that long i presume joe?
[11:12 am] trvlntrdr : then reentered at 12:30
[11:12 am] joemas99 : long
[11:12 am] Mitch : k
[11:12 am] Mitch : from this latest dip in JEF?
[11:12 am] joemas99 : stop below last 3 min bar
[11:12 am] trvlntrdr : going to sell at 12:50 and take the day off
[11:12 am] joemas99 : or out now at 12.42
[11:13 am] trvlntrdr : I think it has a bit more upside but I am too tired for it
[11:13 am] joemas99 : out w/ slippage
[11:14 am] joemas99 : got about 11-12 cts[11:14 am] rusty : GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney details plan to transform Medicare, cut federal spending by $500 billion
[11:15 am] shark : FIO dropping
[11:18 am] victor51 : No on Jeff but second short on INHX
[11:19 am] rusty : FFIV new highs
[11:20 am] trvlntrdr : Jef still on an uptrend for those interested
[11:21 am] trvlntrdr : I guess it is on the screen but it is hard for me to see it on my little laptop
[11:22 am] shark : looks like uptrend on lower volume trvlntrdr[11:22 am] trvlntrdr : well it might be good for a small long.
[11:23 am] trvlntrdr : I am out of here as soon as it hits 12.49
[11:26 am] trvlntrdr : well I am probably wrong. I think it is over now.
[11:26 am] shark : looks done
[11:27 am] qwert : see ya everybody have a great weekend today was best day ever for me
[11:27 am] shark : doing more of a consolidation
[11:27 am] mhaus : ULTA
[11:27 am] trvlntrdr : your right shark, 5cent loss for me
[11:27 am] mikewd2 -: JPM doesn't have missing money
[11:28 am] shark : yeah, from some Real Estate
[11:28 am] mikewd2 -: MF - missing funds
[11:29 am] trvlntrdr : everyone have a great weekend. looks like winter is headed your way-- we had another snow storm here in the sierras
[11:33 am] Kris : have a great weekend qwert[11:33 am] Kris : see you monday[11:35 am] shark : profit taking coming in
[11:37 am] steele : Shark what is profit taking? Sell off?
[11:38 am] shark : Market indices pulling back off highs
[11:38 am] shark : SPY - DIA - RUT - NYSE
[11:38 am] steele : SPY dropping
[11:39 am] steele : Is it always happen on Fridays?
[11:40 am] shark : a lot of people want to take some profits into another European uncertainty weekend
[11:40 am] taco : think it depends on sentiment
[11:41 am] Kris : it also depends on if there is profit to be taking
[11:41 am] victor51 : M/K/Brent Fidelity does not have good short inventory, i do you think TradeStation will ave nice inventory? Also, what tools do i need to participate more between 6:25 and 6:35/ Any ideas or techniques. Thanks.
[11:42 am] rusty : Fidelity short inventory not so good
[11:42 am] rusty : Fidelity has some good charting though
[11:42 am] Kris : yes victor, tradestation has better short inventory
[11:45 am] rusty : ELON radar
[11:46 am] jsn13 : Hi guys how much margin will IB provide? Is it 1:3?
[11:47 am] storage : trvlntrdr are still in Jef maybe 12.49 coming
[11:47 am] victor51 : Kris and Rusty, Thanks. I have not used TS that much but thought TS will have better charting than fIDELITY[11:47 am] Brent : 4 to 1 Jsn[11:47 am] shark : he closed it out, storage
[11:47 am] steele : Brent, can I put ATM strategy after opening a position
[11:47 am] richard : MDRX
[11:47 am] jsn13 : Thanks...
[11:48 am] Brent : no, as far as I know, you have to manually put in your stop and targets at that point steele[11:48 am] steele : Tnx[11:56 am] steele : Brent, can you group all floating windows in NT workspace as one single unit? Coz after I switch to other programs I have to call up one by one.
[11:56 am] rusty : Worst Analyst of The Day Award....
[11:56 am] rusty : Inhibitex price target raised to $25 from $6 at JMP Securities
[11:56 am] rusty : INHX
[11:56 am] zentrader : hey y'all. Anything interesting going on today?
[11:58 am] mhaus : Steele, no, you cannot group the windows
[11:58 am] mikewd2 -: have a good weekend all, closed out CHK with 0.27 lost
[11:58 am] mhaus : but here is a way to do what you want
[11:59 am] steele : So How you organize them
[11:59 am] mhaus : save the current setup under a workspace
[11:59 am] mhaus : then open a blank workspace
[12:00 pm] steele : Then?
[12:00 pm] mhaus : the blank one will be named untitled
[12:00 pm] mhaus : when you switch between the 2 workspaces, it will open all the windows of that workspace
[12:00 pm] mhaus : or bring them in the front
[12:02 pm] steele : If I switch to internet browser and then want to go back to my NT workspace does your trick work?
[12:03 pm] mhaus : should work
[12:03 pm] mhaus : also, if you just minimize the browser, you will see your NT windows
[12:03 pm] steele : thnx will try
[12:05 pm] rusty : JEF hod[12:07 pm] candelas : out 3/4 of Jef @12.66 stop last 1/4 b/e 12.81
[12:09 pm] candelas : moving stop to 12.47
[12:10 pm] candelas : out all Jef .47
[12:11 pm] storage : Nice candelas
[12:11 pm] lightning : nicely done candelas
[12:12 pm] zentrader : watching VECO
[12:14 pm] rusty : TLT near hod[12:17 pm] mhaus : Mitch, any swing ideas for this weekend?
[12:18 pm] zentrader : anyone trade the bounce in VECO?
[12:18 pm] candelas : we left it for u Zen
[12:21 pm] candelas : if we get accelerated vol/selling in DMND will look to take a trade
[12:21 pm] candelas : never mind
[12:21 pm] candelas : late in day
[12:25 pm] rusty : LPSN radar
[12:25 pm] candelas : it's been nice short on daily
[12:26 pm] taco : here it is candelas
[12:26 pm] candelas : drip drip drip on daily
[12:26 pm] candelas : i will pass
[12:28 pm] candelas : yeah Taco, i passed cuz of time of day
[12:34 pm] mhaus : DTG
[12:36 pm] otboakye : newbie
[12:36 pm] mhaus : welcome to the room
[12:36 pm] candelas : welcome to room OTBOAKYE
[12:36 pm] Kris : welcome to this room of misfits otboakye[12:37 pm] shark : WELCOME, OTBOAKYE!
[12:38 pm] shark : does otboakye stand for anything?
[12:38 pm] Mitch : the action really is good first 90 minutes of each day and then we go into cruise control and collectively scan for a bunch of ideas
[12:38 pm] Kris : I haven't seen a bullshort in months, I forgot what they even look like.
[12:39 pm] Kris : I think MF Global use to be Prestige Worldwide
[12:41 pm] Mitch : hey otboakye, there is also a little abuse on Friday afternoon too, we are sort of brain dead, the chief abuser is Kris but he is actually quite funny
[12:43 pm] mhaus : BTW otboatye, download the documents from the documents tab on the bottom right.
[12:43 pm] hobart : MK, Kris and Brent - Any thoughts on taking DMND as a Long in the next few days?
[12:43 pm] hobart : Swing trade
[12:43 pm] taco : have a great wknd all, i'm out till tuesday i think.
[12:43 pm] Mitch : interesting idea hobart but no signal to buy yet, everything pointing down, need to have a trigger
[12:43 pm] Mitch : later taco
[12:44 pm] truck : look at DTG
[12:44 pm] Brent : have a good weekend taco
[12:44 pm] Mitch : for a swing trade truck?
[12:44 pm] Kris : I would like to see a couple more big days down in DMND and then a bottom for a reversal long
[12:44 pm] khall : I'm out as well, thanks guys
[12:44 pm] truck : no just running
[12:44 pm] Kris : later taco
[12:45 pm] Mitch : good eye truck, too late for me
[12:45 pm] shark : Kris -any updates on the options ideas you were mulling?
[12:45 pm] truck : me too
[12:46 pm] Kris : I have someone virtual trading it now shark
[12:46 pm] Kris : I'll keep you posted
[12:46 pm] shark : Oh, nice! Ok
[12:48 pm] mhaus : Mitch, Kris, Brent, I would like to learn about Options trading. What reading material or study material you would recommend?
[12:48 pm] Mitch : oh boy, not sure mhaus[12:48 pm] Brent : I've never studied options myself mhaus[12:48 pm] Mitch : do you know anything about options mhaus?
[12:48 pm] mhaus : I know nothing about options
[12:48 pm] Mitch : do you have the Wizard Training Course?
[12:48 pm] chinhngo : long or short of dtg ?
[12:48 pm] Mitch : i have a section in there that starts you off good
[12:48 pm] mhaus : I don't think so
[12:49 pm] mhaus : It is not a part of the 3 DVDs, right?
[12:49 pm] Mitch : chingo, no, no touchy DTG, only watching, 11 minutes left, no touchy, Chinese man say no touchy
[12:49 pm] Kris : I wouldn't recommend trading options until you've mastered stock trading since they are directly related.
[12:49 pm] truck : too late for most of us chinhngo,,,DTG...might look at it Monday
[12:50 pm] Mitch : no mhaus, call 503-650-6346 and whoever answers will send you one for free, just shipping handling
[12:50 pm] mhaus : Kris, I am thinking of just studying it
[12:50 pm] Mitch : and start with that chapter on options
[12:50 pm] mhaus : Thanks. Will do that this afternoon
[12:51 pm] Mitch : last person leaves at 7pm eastern
[12:51 pm] Mitch : ok, let me put this in your head mhaus on options.
[12:51 pm] mhaus : I will call right after the market closes
[12:51 pm] Mitch : Use options as just another instrument to make a good trade after you get a good swing trade signal. Start with simple option strategies first
[12:52 pm] Mitch : all options do is give you more leverage and you have to understand stocks first,
[12:52 pm] Mitch : cant trade options on scalping ideas we have here, only swing trades
[12:52 pm] mhaus : My younger brother lost almost 2M in 2000 in options
[12:52 pm] Mitch : he probably gave some of that to me
[12:53 pm] Mitch : and probably some to rusty
[12:53 pm] Mitch : and joeytsa[12:53 pm] Mitch : and mike batty
[12:53 pm] Mitch : well, and thousands of other people
[12:53 pm] mhaus : he was saying all these terms which made no sense to me
[12:54 pm] rusty : remember the days of ASKJ
[12:54 pm] Mitch : well, it didn't make sense to him either
[12:54 pm] rusty : Ask Jeeves
[12:54 pm] Mitch : yes, Ask Jeeves?
[12:54 pm] shark : :)
[12:54 pm] rusty : from single digits to almost 200 and back
[12:54 pm] mhaus : and he just laughed at me when I told him I am making a living in stocks
[12:54 pm] rusty : ASKJ
[12:54 pm] rusty : was the symbol
[12:55 pm] shark : you learned from his mistakes, mhaus?
[12:55 pm] mhaus : I never did options
[12:55 pm] mhaus : but made a ton in stocks
[12:55 pm] Kris : that was one of the worst search engines ever
[12:55 pm] Kris : jeeves was a moron
[12:55 pm] Mitch : its often a challenge to trade both at the same time, it's a different mindset. you want to get a system down for sure
[12:55 pm] rusty : remember MZON? went from single digits to 54 in a couple of days
[12:56 pm] mhaus : Just don't want to look like a dummy when I talk to him next time
[12:56 pm] Mitch : no don't remember MZON,
[12:56 pm] Mitch : well mhaus, he is the one who lost 2M
[12:56 pm] mhaus : That's what I told him. LOL
[12:57 pm] mhaus : He is still paying for his losses and I am debt free
[12:57 pm] candelas : like guys with MF,Long Term Capital,etc[12:57 pm] rusty : remember CMGI of course
[12:57 pm] Mitch : i got one for you rusty, BAMM, had a huge move just before THanksgiving one year, probably 98,
[12:57 pm] rusty : BAMM!!!!
[12:57 pm] Mitch : RHAT
[12:57 pm] rusty : Books A Million
[12:57 pm] rusty : x
[12:57 pm] Mitch : right
[12:57 pm] rusty : great one
[12:57 pm] Mitch : EGGS
[12:57 pm] Mitch : TGLO
[12:57 pm] rusty : TGLO a classic
[12:58 pm] Mitch : Teleglobe, mentioned this morning they had IPOd at $7 and first day over $220
[12:58 pm] rusty : let's not forget LNUX opening in 330's
[12:58 pm] Mitch : underwriters mispriced that one, lol[12:58 pm] rusty : LNUX all time high was the day it IPO'd[12:59 pm] Mitch : most of these companies all gone. Most bullshorts I ever did all gone, not even pink sheets
[12:59 pm] rusty : I shorted ASKJ at 90-120 and in a few days was 190
[12:59 pm] rusty : had my stomach in throat
[12:59 pm] Kris : yeeaaahhh bbbbooooyyyyyy!!!!!
[01:00 pm] Kris : did you add to it rusty?
[01:00 pm] Mitch : RHAT, shorted around 255, went to 215 same day and i didn't like it so i covered, following few days over 300
[01:00 pm] candelas : been there, taste awful
[01:00 pm] rusty : yes added at 180
[01:00 pm] rusty : covered at 100
[01:00 pm] Kris : nice
[01:00 pm] rusty : and then it went back to single digits
[01:01 pm] storage : have a good weekend everyone it was a good day.
[01:02 pm] rusty : good weekend all
[01:02 pm] Mitch : taught a guy bullshorts starting in 1996 or 97, not sure, his first short was KTEL, shorted around 15-17 and it went ballistic, i think JOhn, my friend, was down $100,000 on that. He kept saying it isn't worth it (fundamentals). I said it doesn't matter because everyone else thinks it is. SO the next 24 or 25 bullshort ideas I gave him all were profitable so he held that very first one, KTEL until he came back to profits.
[01:02 pm] Mitch : then after he covered, the company filed bankruptcy, lol[01:02 pm] rusty : KTEL!
[01:02 pm] rusty : oh boy
[01:03 pm] rusty : one of the first internet stocks
[01:03 pm] Mitch : right, that was another shady company
[01:03 pm] shark : WOW!
[01:03 pm] rusty : remember all the B2B stocks
[01:03 pm] Mitch : what is interesting rusty, is that the same shady companies came back as Chinese companies, lol!
[01:04 pm] shark : sounds like justification to go in like Kris -with small position size
[01:04 pm] rusty : lol[01:04 pm] rusty : True
[01:04 pm] neuronx : see you all
[01:05 pm] Mitch : you must have funny stories rusty, short a stock before a surgery, then after a surgery, you are up 35%
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