Chat Highlights From 11/02/2012

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[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching CAR for bottom, 16.10 area
[06:13 am] Mitch K: watching VRTX drop pre market, probably drops further after opening, watching for bottom
[06:16 am] Mitch K: watching GMLP for a bounce at opening
[06:16 am] Ed : good morning
[06:23 am] Mitch K: oil prices and airline stock prices are married, divorce not possible
[06:23 am] Mitch K: the price of oil directly affects airline stock prices
[06:25 am] Mitch K: nice move up on SBUX but i would not short this.
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching WFM for top
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching WMS for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching LOPE for top
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching SFLY for bottom to buy
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching HAIN for short, prefer rebound
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching THOR for top
[06:33 am] Mitch K: monitoring KORS
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching VRX for bottom to buy
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching ARCO for bottom, take time
[06:34 am] Mitch K: ESV toppy
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watchign VRSK for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: monitoring ESV
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching FLR for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching ARI for bottom
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching HAR for top
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching MHK for top
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching DWA for top
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching CPT for short above 67.30
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching VRSK closer
[06:36 am] Mitch K: missed ROVI top but watching for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching TRIP for trades both ways
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching WBC for short on top of this bounce, take time
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching TRMB for top
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching LINE, take time
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching SWN for bottom
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching BKD for bottom
[06:39 am] Mitch K: HAR toppy
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching ROVI for short soon
[06:39 am] Mitch K: monitoring NCMI
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching ARI for top to short, top of this bounce
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching SWKS for bottom
[06:41 am] Mitch K: monitor VRSN today
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching VRTX closer
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching SSYS for bottom
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching DRC drop
[06:42 am] Mitch K: wwatching RKT for bottom, bouncing now, try best price
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching CRUS
[06:43 am] Mitch K: trying for 15.25 to cover ROVI
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching ORLY for bottom, trades both ways today
[06:43 am] Mitch K: TRMB toppy
[06:44 am] Ed : monitoring ONXX for potential long
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching LIFE for bottom
[06:44 am] Mitch K: monitoring AWAY
[06:45 am] Mitch K: long
[06:45 am] Mitch K: cover HAIN soon and watch for bottom to buy
[06:45 am] Mitch K: covering KMX, taking off screen
[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching HAIN closer to cover short
[06:45 am] Ed : no hurry on ONXX
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching LNKD for bottom to buy
[06:46 am] Mitch K: market selling down
[06:46 am] Mitch K: monitor BCOV
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watchign QCOR for bottom, going to be good
[06:46 am] Ed : on ONX would like some selling down to 74 or 73 area
[06:47 am] Mitch K: consider selling ARI
[06:47 am] Mitch K: cover ESV soon
[06:47 am] Mitch K: for most experienced traders
[06:47 am] Mitch K: should be out of CAR long and into short
[06:47 am] Mitch K: next set of good trades will be bottoms, then look for market rebound to lift stocks
[06:48 am] Mitch K: taking VRSK off screen,  looking for something better
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching OPEN for bottom
[06:48 am] Mitch K: ROVI short over
[06:48 am] Mitch K: should be out of the first MHK short and watch for 2nd helping short later
[06:49 am] Mitch K: taking DWA off screen
[06:49 am] Mitch K: covering CPT soon
[06:49 am] Mitch K: FLR possible bottom
[06:49 am] Mitch K: limit orders, small ones
[06:49 am] Mitch K: trying for best price on long entry for ONXX
[06:50 am] Mitch K: cover SWN
[06:50 am] Mitch K: taking NCMI off screen
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching MOS for bottom
[06:50 am] Mitch K: dont like ARCO
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching HAIN for long entry here
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watchign WFC for bottom
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watch for bottoms to buy
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching USB for bottom
[06:51 am] Mitch K: TRIP too strong to short
[06:51 am] Mitch K: done with ROVI
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching KORS for bottom
[06:52 am] Mitch K: VRTX bouncing
[06:52 am] Mitch K: taking TRIP off screen
[06:53 am] Mitch K: more downside on LOPE short
[06:53 am] Mitch K: taking LINE off screen, need room
[06:53 am] Mitch K: should be out of WBC short
[06:54 am] Ed : reducing 3/4 ONXX long
[06:55 am] Mitch K: still watching SSYS
[06:55 am] Mitch K: bounces started, indexes moving up
[06:55 am] Ed : will trail last 1/4 ONXX long
[06:56 am] Mitch K: looking for over 68 oin RKT long
[06:56 am] Mitch K: ES bouncing on 2 min
[06:57 am] Mitch K: AWAY is a no go
[06:57 am] Mitch K: watching ROVI for 2nd short, no hurry
[06:58 am] Mitch K: consider reducing SFLY
[06:58 am] Mitch K: should be out of QCOR long
[06:59 am] Mitch K: try again later
[06:59 am] Mitch K: consider reducing LNKD long, looks weak
[06:59 am] Mitch K: looking to reduce BCOV and WMS longs, gradually at best price.   that means limit orders
[06:59 am] Mitch K: WFM 2nd short soon
[07:00 am] Mitch K: consider selling RKT
[07:00 am] Mitch K: FLR bounce gaining strength
[07:00 am] Mitch K: consider selling CAR if still long
[07:01 am] Mitch K: little more upside on HAR, pick your price
[07:02 am] Mitch K: cover BKD short
[07:02 am] Mitch K: watching QCOR for 2nd bottom to buy, should be good bottom to buy,
[07:02 am] Mitch K: SSYS acting very weak, still watching though, this is almost 9% drop
[07:03 am] Mitch K: SSYS trying to bottom
[07:03 am] Mitch K: should be out of the banks like USB long
[07:03 am] Mitch K: CHTR bounce over
[07:03 am] Mitch K: should be out of the THOR short and watch for 2nd heping
[07:04 am] Mitch K: watching QCOR closely
[07:04 am] Mitch K: gee, its been Christmas all week, excellent trading
[07:04 am] Mitch K: bounce failing on indexes, more down
[07:05 am] Mitch K: liking SSYS more and more, just waiting and watching, like a patient hunter
[07:05 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[07:05 am] Mitch K: watching RKT for short on top of bounce
[07:07 am] Mitch K: getting a buy signal on SSYS 1 min chart
[07:08 am] Mitch K: i was wondering what stock i took off screen would be winner.  DWA turned over.  watching DWA for bottom to buy, lol
[07:09 am] Mitch K: and then try again lower
[07:09 am] Mitch K: should stop below 61 on SSYS
[07:09 am] Mitch K: no buy signal on 2 min chart for SSYS
[07:09 am] Mitch K: ROVI 2nd helping soon
[07:10 am] Mitch K: watching TRV for bottom, red umbrella insurance co
[07:12 am] Mitch K: there goes SSYS
[07:13 am] Mitch K: VRSN bouncing
[07:13 am] Mitch K: I shouldnt have given up on LIFE
[07:13 am] Mitch K: next one is QCOR, try to manage both
[07:14 am] Mitch K: QCOR moving
[07:15 am] Mitch K: forget shorting WFM
[07:15 am] Mitch K: consider selling WMS
[07:15 am] Mitch K: should be out of BCOV long
[07:15 am] Mitch K: should be out of SFLY long
[07:16 am] Mitch K: watching KORS again, for bottom
[07:16 am] Mitch K: watching SI, silver futures for bottom
[07:17 am] Mitch K: watching for slow motion trade on BIIB
[07:18 am] Ed : but its trying
[07:18 am] Ed : SPY bounce weak so far
[07:19 am] Mitch K: RLGY toppy
[07:19 am] Ed : Advanced trade, if get another drop in SPY, monitor SINA for loss with vol for potential short
[07:21 am] Mitch K: consider selling QCOR actually
[07:21 am] Mitch K: consider reducing QCOR
[07:21 am] Mitch K: consider selling SSYS, watch for 2nd bottom
[07:22 am] Ed : SPY  lower low so far
[07:23 am] Mitch K: man that was good action this morning
[07:24 am] Mitch K: shark, i take tons of stuff.... vitamins, minerals, herbs, vegetable and fruit powder
[07:26 am] Mitch K: watching FLR for bottom
[07:27 am] Mitch K: this stock, QCOR, really can pump out some big % winners.
[07:27 am] Mitch K: when a stock rebounds this much on QCOR, a short on top of bounce will be god,
[07:28 am] Mitch K: still watching SI
[07:30 am] Mitch K: ok good one shark, watch GLD for bottom
[07:31 am] Mitch K: QCOR worth short
[07:31 am] Mitch K: monitoring XL, want acceleration on downside more
[07:31 am] Mitch K: for short on QCOR
[07:31 am] Mitch K: QCOR toppy
[07:33 am] Ed : NFLX holding up so far
[07:33 am] Ed : SPY bouncing
[07:34 am] Ed : may not gt it but if NFLX can spend another day or 2 in tight range on daily will get nice breakout
[07:35 am] Ed : Advanced trade monitor ALXN for cont. weakness for potential short with strong vol
[07:38 am] Mitch K: monitoring FSLR
[07:42 am] Ed : SPY lower low
[07:46 am] Mitch K: consider covering some of QCOR short, incremental orders to cover
[07:46 am] Mitch K: watching QCOR to cover soon
[07:55 am] Mitch K: watching QCOR for 2nd helping short
[08:04 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[08:11 am] Mitch K: more downside on DNDN but hard to find shares to short
[08:37 am] Ed : SPY bouncing
[08:46 am] Mitch K: watching WTW for short
[08:47 am] Ed : covering 3/4 of SINA short
[08:52 am] Mitch K: can i have a mulligan on the HAIN short, missed 2nd short
[09:01 am] Mitch K: 2nd short is almost 2% on 2nd short
[09:01 am] Mitch K: Murano, thats $3.50 a share on first short or 6%
[09:04 am] Mitch K: ive made several more trades after this one big one
[09:04 am] Mitch K: excellent trading in QCOR, here is that big bounce
[09:06 am] Mitch K: SSYS here
[09:06 am] Mitch K: this is WTW
[09:07 am] Mitch K: really good trading this week
[09:08 am] Mitch K: i know ive lost all credibility on this release dates though, lol
[09:08 am] Mitch K: should be this coming week.
[09:09 am] Mitch K: lol, too funny, you crack me up
[09:09 am] Mitch K: you're too funny lisa, good thing im not under your command, I would have been sent to Adak, Alaska
[09:10 am] Mitch K: thats ok, i can handle the abuse
[09:10 am] Mitch K: can you guys find a good trade
[09:11 am] Mitch K: we want to develop to next version on Lightning before programming it for TS
[09:13 am] Mitch K: gold, GC 12-12
[09:14 am] Mitch K: should wait for buy signal
[09:14 am] Mitch K: should not do that
[09:14 am] Mitch K: im anticipating trade
[09:15 am] Mitch K: but 19 years of habits hard to break.  i just showed you why you wait for signal
[09:15 am] Mitch K: when you do what i just did, you increase risk
[09:16 am] Mitch K: i had to demonstrate what not to do
[09:16 am] Mitch K: this is going to be your biggest problem
[09:17 am] Mitch K: i am checking all the different settings i use and not one buy signal on GC 12-12
[09:18 am] Mitch K: on one chart
[09:18 am] Mitch K: got a buy signal
[09:20 am] Mitch K: you can take a profit target or a signal, your call
[09:20 am] Mitch K: no, its a range chart
[09:22 am] Mitch K: 5 is a setting, the bigger the number the longer time interval that chart is on
[09:23 am] Mitch K: yeah i did qwert, its my biggest challenge using this.
[09:24 am] Mitch K: i have really just started to focus on trading using Lightning.  i spent a long time analyzing how to program it more than trading
[09:25 am] Mitch K: you leave a lot of money on the table that way, make much more by using signals
[09:25 am] Mitch K: over time, it is much better to use the signals than to do what i just did
[09:27 am] Mitch K: the main reason why Lightning beta version was not released because we chased this no trading zone down a deep black hole.  hard to get out of those.  It is real convenient to use though, to have a warning that its not a great time to open new positions
[09:29 am] Mitch K: see that sell signal?
[09:29 am] Mitch K: i learned a tremendous amount about trading, trading action through this 2 year project.  and we have a long way to go for improvements
[09:30 am] Mitch K: yes shawn, two versions are being released, one for stocks and one for futures-forex
[09:30 am] Mitch K: go4it, i need to be more patient
[09:30 am] Mitch K: my suggestion, after using and designing this is to wait for the signal for opening a position is best
[09:32 am] Mitch K: shawn, dont think about money or things, just think about the process
[09:32 am] Mitch K: stocks much easier to trade than futures and forex
[09:33 am] Mitch K: trade=trader
[09:33 am] Mitch K: if you are a new trade, be on sim for 90 days, 60 days if you are intermediate and 30 days if you are proficient trader already
[09:34 am] Mitch K: no signal was issued
[09:34 am] Mitch K: i shorted in that blue circle
[09:34 am] Mitch K: want me to tell you what else i did wrong?  it is a real adjustment to use this for sure but works well
[09:35 am] Mitch K: only made about 4 ticks, but then look what happened?  a form sell signal was issued about 4 candles later here in the 2nd circle
[09:36 am] Mitch K: i think this might be a problem for most people at first, trusting and taking signals
[09:36 am] Mitch K: #3 circle was a short signal which i did not take.
[09:36 am] Mitch K: i shorted at #1, covered at #2 circle
[09:37 am] Mitch K: when you see a big move like this one, or a decent move like this, then get ready to take next signal, it will probably be a good mover
[09:38 am] Mitch K: but ive been trading for 19 years and those habits are hard coded, lol
[09:38 am] Mitch K: i dont think i have any edge on you guys using this, there is no question this is an adjustment for me
[09:39 am] Mitch K: i think so murano, i think an intermediate trader will do better.  my wife, who is beginner, will outperform me for a while
[09:39 am] Mitch K: what i have learned alot about is the sell signals or any signals come later than you think, or at least later than i think
[09:40 am] Mitch K: i got to work with programmer, now, bye for now
[09:41 am] Mitch K: practice more before you trade futures-forex.
[09:41 am] Mitch K: repeat:  using Lightning with stocks is much easier because stocks move slower, at least most stocks
[09:44 am] Mitch K: lisa, you want me wait for you? when do you return
[09:46 am] Mitch K: you can abuse me, its funny
[09:46 am] Mitch K: i should show you something else
[09:47 am] Mitch K: i have a 2nd order that never filled at 1679.0 but got one contract filled at 1679.20
[09:47 am] Mitch K: still long
[09:47 am] Mitch K: right after i closed the projector chart i took this signal at bottom
[09:48 am] Mitch K: thats one of my accounts
[09:48 am] Mitch K: this is not simulator mode
[09:48 am] Mitch K: i will try to wait for sell signal just for you guys,
[09:49 am] Mitch K: im trying to work out the stops now lisa, for CL  15 ticks max
[09:50 am] Mitch K: also, you should configure your dom, if you use one, with different colors like this
[09:51 am] Mitch K: yes qwert
[09:51 am] Mitch K: wait for the entry signals for sure, and you can use a profit target to close
[09:51 am] Mitch K: in that case, i gave up more profit than if anticipated.  but over the long run, you will come out much more profit if you wait
[09:52 am] Mitch K: if you are trading an instrument/stock that is trending, increase the time interval to longer time frame
[09:53 am] Mitch K: it filters out a lot of trade signals
[09:56 am] Ed : their are ton of stops sitting right at 1650
[09:56 am] Ed : fyi: key area on GC 12-12 is 1650
[10:03 am] Ed : very tight range in SPY
[10:07 am] Ed : will monitor MDVN for some accelerated selling
[10:07 am] Ed : MDVN still bleeding
[10:26 am] Ed : AAPL formin bear cup on 15min/15 day chart
[10:28 am] Mitch K: DO buy signal
[10:46 am] Ed : nice murano
[10:52 am] Mitch K: low of day on SPY
[10:53 am] Ed : SPY finally broke down from the range
[10:54 am] Mitch K: careful with CRUS, no bounce showing today and being Friday, i dont think people will be wanting to buy this going into weekend.  If it drops a lot more might be interesting
[10:55 am] Ed : I like as potential short
[10:56 am] Ed : advanced trade though
[11:16 am] Ed : still monitoring ALXN for break of yesterdays low with strong vol for potential short
[11:17 am] Ed : its been teasing that low, I will be patient
[11:23 am] Mitch K: bye lisa,
[11:24 am] Ed : covering 3/4 AAPL short
[11:29 am] Mitch K: thanks murano
[11:33 am] Ed : on AAPL Im trailng last 1/4 short behind 20sma
[11:38 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[11:41 am] Ed : would see how this bounce plays out no rush
[11:41 am] Ed : ALXN gettn really close
[11:42 am] Mitch K: got buy signal on aapl 2 MIN CHART
[11:42 am] Ed : CRUS still bleeding, but I got stopped earlier for nice gain
[12:00 pm] Ed : getting bounce in SPY
[12:24 pm] Ed : nice one on BTH
[12:27 pm] Ed : nice call sky and reshef on BTH
[12:29 pm] Mitch K: getting buy signal on BTH, early buy signal
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: on BTH
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: no sell signal
[12:37 pm] Ed : SSYS lost 60
[12:39 pm] Ed : covereing 3/4 of SSYS short
[12:40 pm] Ed : joey called the SSYS earlier for that 60 level
[12:49 pm] Mitch K: gettting early sell signal on BTH
[01:02 pm] Ed : have a great weekend traders study study study

[06:44 am] doji  : LNKD long 110.18 ... rigth at 50% retractment
[06:44 am] skydiver  : L LNKLD 111.43
[06:44 am] doji  : VRTX is a dog
[06:44 am] shark  : PCLN new lod
[06:44 am] joeytsa  : sure is
[06:45 am] skydiver  : tight stop on LNKD L
[06:45 am] joeytsa  : lightspeed has VRTX shorts
[06:45 am] joeytsa  : they havent had them in a while
[06:46 am] skydiver  : all out of LNKD L - small loss
[06:47 am] doji  : stopped on LNKD... small profit
[06:47 am] skydiver  : nice doji :)
[06:47 am] shark  : out 1/2 PCLN s
[06:48 am] joeytsa  : ES slow trend down since 1431 dbl top
[06:48 am] shark  : my boots on the ground, saying LULU sales doing well
[06:48 am] doji  : More sellling in the SPY
[06:48 am] shark  : see if they hold b/e doji
[06:49 am] shark  : out all PCLN s
[06:49 am] doji  : Watching LNKD approaching b/e
[06:49 am] doji  : $107
[06:50 am] doji  : No idea why EXPE didn't run along with PCLN and TRIP....
[06:50 am] doji  : VRTX round bottom?
[06:50 am] shark  : looks like it doji
[06:51 am] shark  : KORS break down thru R1
[06:52 am] shark  : keep an eye on market direction
[06:52 am] joeytsa  : crude just touched under $86
[06:52 am] doji  : AAPL holding 591
[06:52 am] skydiver  : I went L VRTX 43.11
[06:53 am] shark  : just buy me double whatever you get, sky
[06:53 am] skydiver  : smaller position however on VRTX
[06:53 am] doji  : run VRTX run... nice round bottom
[06:53 am] skydiver  : thnx shark :)
[06:53 am] doji  : long from 42.51
[06:53 am] joeytsa  : doji: just for you, that pattern is known as a "vergara"
[06:53 am] doji  : No, JLo
[06:54 am] shark  : Sofia Vergara? :O
[06:54 am] doji  : but I like the Briazilian's ones... the best
[06:54 am] joeytsa  : :)
[06:54 am] shark  : Youzzzaaa
[06:54 am] joeytsa  : ONXX nice
[06:55 am] skydiver  : out of VRTX L 43.52
[06:55 am] doji  : out 1/2 VRTX :
[06:55 am] doji  : L
[06:55 am] doji  : NFLX
[06:56 am] qwert  : Watching EXC
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : same on 1min,  higher low
[06:56 am] skydiver  : nice one qwert
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : i meant the 340 tick
[06:56 am] shark  : SSYS beats by .03, guides up for rest of 2012
[06:58 am] skydiver  : L EXC 32.38
[06:59 am] doji  : I am with you Sky
[06:59 am] joeytsa  : SSYS weak on that news
[06:59 am] skydiver  : humm - looking a bit weak to me EXC - volume is low
[06:59 am] skydiver  : but still in it
[06:59 am] skydiver  : EXC
[06:59 am] shark  : CMG testing hod
[07:00 am] skydiver  : moving stop up to be on EXC
[07:00 am] qwert  : did the same sky
[07:01 am] joeytsa  : ES has to get over 1427 now for a big move to happen
[07:01 am] skydiver  : ok qwert and doji - be careful on this one EXC - not liking the volume at moment, but . . .
[07:01 am] shark  : nice pop on DECK off 52week low
[07:02 am] skydiver  : thnx shark
[07:02 am] shark  : looks like a floor put in from 10/26 capitulation
[07:02 am] joeytsa  : factory orders slightly better
[07:03 am] skydiver  : out of EXC L  1/2
[07:03 am] skydiver  : moving stop up on EXC
[07:04 am] shark  : NFLX testing b/e
[07:04 am] shark  : pivot areas
[07:04 am] skydiver  : all out of  EXC L
[07:04 am] doji  : NFLX, SBUX strong
[07:04 am] shark  : thx for all the gifts, Mitch
[07:05 am] shark  : watching SSYS & DDD
[07:05 am] skydiver  : thnx qwert for EXC
[07:05 am] qwert  : :))
[07:05 am] doji  : APPL aipproaching 200dMA... it could losee it big today
[07:07 am] joeytsa  : SSYS real nice short so far
[07:07 am] skydiver  : nice joey
[07:07 am] joeytsa  : looks like $61 is trying to hold
[07:08 am] doji  : Watching FSLR
[07:10 am] doji  : SBUX over 10% up
[07:12 am] joeytsa  : QCOR is a pig
[07:13 am] skydiver  : SSYS moving up nicely
[07:13 am] shark  : SSYS 61.35 l
[07:13 am] qwert  : weird gap on the ssys chart
[07:13 am] Ed : yea it shows on esignal but not my TS chart
[07:13 am] joeytsa  : no gap on lightspeed either
[07:14 am] shark  : stopped out at 62.23
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : no QCOR shares at LS either
[07:14 am] Ed : nice piece of change though shark
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : if $62 holds could get a nice bounce
[07:14 am] skydiver  : yeah shark - nice
[07:14 am] shark  : ooohh yeah! :)
[07:15 am] Ed : strange does not show gap on chart on left
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : because chart on left is QCOR?
[07:16 am] Ed : meant on right
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : haha
[07:16 am] Ed : im all confused
[07:16 am] skydiver  : need more coffee
[07:16 am] shark  : shall we recommend some SBUX?
[07:16 am] qwert  : hahaha
[07:16 am] Ed : none for me, maybe thats issue
[07:17 am] doji  : NFLX
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : no coffee here either
[07:17 am] apple  : gm all - school has been closed all week
[07:17 am] Ed : we heard, u may get 3 weeks
[07:17 am] skydiver  : I'll be stopping at starbucks in awhile as I head out to an early morning meeting in abouit 1/2 hour
[07:17 am] skydiver  : gm apple!!
[07:18 am] apple  : hey sky
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : ES still making lower highs
[07:18 am] shark  : hi apple
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : good morning apple
[07:18 am] apple  : not 3 weeks, pls!  1 week is more than enough
[07:18 am] apple  : gm joey
[07:18 am] apple  : gm shark
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : CSTR a bit ugly today
[07:18 am] doji  : Watching SINA
[07:18 am] shark  : you guys all safe, apple?
[07:18 am] Ed : talk to bloomberg
[07:19 am] doji  : FB
[07:19 am] apple  : we are fine, but a lot of people do not have electricity and there are long gas lines or no gas available
[07:19 am] doji  : NFLX
[07:19 am] doji  : any news on NFLX?
[07:19 am] shark  : good thing you can work from home
[07:19 am] joeytsa  : people selling gas on the side of the roads from barrels
[07:20 am] apple  : yeah, i am so lucky
[07:20 am] shark  : :)
[07:20 am] apple  : my friend said she had to take the bus to midtown for work - 3 hours in am and 4 in pm... that sounds like a workday to me
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : yuck
[07:21 am] shark  : time to call in sick
[07:21 am] shawn  : can we short ssys?
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : QCOR decent bounce
[07:21 am] apple  : really, and she has a lot of vacation days...
[07:21 am] Ed : mostly same info doji how Icahn says it may be an aqcuisition target
[07:21 am] khall  : that's quite the commute
[07:21 am] apple  : hey khall and the buses were packed and they were free
[07:22 am] doji  : NFLX!
[07:22 am] shark  : yeah, Ed, only PE98
[07:22 am] khall  : hey apple :-)
[07:22 am] apple  : ferries will start running today
[07:22 am] khall  : I bet they were packed - especially since the subway is not available
[07:22 am] shark  : CNBC commercial on now
[07:22 am] doji  : NFLX Shark?
[07:22 am] joeytsa  : great commercial
[07:23 am] apple  : only way to travel... bridges and tunnels were also closed
[07:23 am] shark  : gives me goosebumps, yeah joey
[07:23 am] Ed : is that still the case apple
[07:23 am] joeytsa  : crude stairstepping down also
[07:23 am] Ed : i agree Mitch
[07:23 am] joeytsa  : agreed Mitch
[07:24 am] Ed : sure it will take some time to get back to normal
[07:24 am] qwert  : monitoring FMCN
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : crude testing S2, ES to test the pp
[07:24 am] shark  : need more protein for your finger muscles, Mitch
[07:24 am] khall  : gold testing my S3
[07:24 am] khall  : again
[07:25 am] shark  : TWO thumbs up, Mitch :)
[07:25 am] apple  : right now no trains below 34th street or between brooklyn and manhattan
[07:25 am] joeytsa  : all about being healthy Mitch
[07:25 am] khall  : I sure hope they can get things up and running soon for you guys apple
[07:25 am] shark  : Mitch, I'm using my new mouse, pad and holder -THANKS!
[07:25 am] shawn  : has Kors bottomed?
[07:26 am] apple  : commuter trains are running, no power in lower manhattan
[07:26 am] Ed : wonder how eddy is doing, has not been in room and they were having unrest in lebanon
[07:26 am] joeytsa  : looks like it for now shawn
[07:27 am] apple  : i hope eddy is okay
[07:27 am] shark  : yeah, Ed, great question
[07:27 am] joeytsa  : wonder if the power issues are affecting overseas connectivity?
[07:27 am] shark  : how joey?
[07:28 am] joeytsa  : no clue..thats why i put the ?
[07:28 am] shark  : haha, ok
[07:28 am] Ed : is that SI 12-12 Mitch?
[07:28 am] Ed : i assume that is the case
[07:29 am] Ed : he is watching SI 12-12, which is silver in futures
[07:29 am] shark  : thx, Ed, wasn't sure either
[07:29 am] doji  : QCOR a nice V pattern
[07:29 am] shark  : GLD dumping too
[07:30 am] apple  : that is why@SI helps
[07:30 am] Ed : good economic #, typically cause gold to sell off
[07:30 am] shawn  : QCOR looks Toppy
[07:31 am] shark  : ahh, ok
[07:32 am] apple  : thx E
[07:33 am] regatta  : watching FMCN
[07:34 am] ticktrader  : qcor short not availabe at TS
[07:34 am] qwert  : had em at lightspeed
[07:34 am] doji  : Niether in TDA
[07:35 am] joeytsa  : not anymore at LS
[07:35 am] skydiver  : llightspeed shows no shorts available for QCOR
[07:35 am] joeytsa  : ALXN lod
[07:35 am] skydiver  : oh . . sorry joey . . didn't see your post
[07:35 am] qwert  : i know but i got some?
[07:35 am] doji  : FB
[07:35 am] skydiver  : really qwert?
[07:36 am] skydiver  : wow, must have hit it at right time
[07:36 am] joeytsa  : they may have had some..the "L" means hard to locate not unavailable
[07:36 am] skydiver  : thnx joey
[07:36 am] joeytsa  : break time,  vacuum-palooza starts
[07:36 am] shark  : lol, bye joey
[07:36 am] apple  : have fun joey
[07:36 am] joeytsa  : great action, see you all later..thanks for the great calls
[07:36 am] qwert  : yeah i usually try and this time got some
[07:36 am] shark  : enjoy the show
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : haha
[07:37 am] skydiver  : put on head phones joey . . enjoy . . I have to head out for early morning meeting as well .. see you all later hopefully :)
[07:37 am] shark  : bye sky ;)
[07:37 am] khall  : bye sky
[07:37 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:37 am] ticktrader  : C ya sky
[07:38 am] apple  : bye sky have fun
[07:38 am] Ed : c ya sky
[07:38 am] qwert  : bye sky
[07:38 am] doji  : NFLX is really strong today
[07:38 am] taco  : c ya sky, nice trades
[07:38 am] doji  : same as FB
[07:39 am] cowboyh  : gm all better late than never
[07:39 am] taco  : hi coeboyh
[07:39 am] taco  : w
[07:39 am] apple  : gm cowboy, how are you
[07:39 am] shark  : hi cowboy
[07:39 am] cowboyh  : gm taco apple, shark
[07:41 am] shark  : FB at R1, doji
[07:42 am] shark  : GLD testing lod
[07:42 am] shark  : I'm definitely going to see the new 007 movie
[07:43 am] shark  : not sure if the Omega watch is included, though
[07:43 am] apple  : my son wants to see it as well.
[07:44 am] qwert  : me too
[07:45 am] ticktrader  : KORS at pivot
[07:45 am] apple  : i do, too.  love javier and daniel
[07:46 am] shark  : KORS touched all time high today: $58.62
[07:47 am] apple  : thx shark
[07:47 am] shark  : same chart pattern as SPY on 1min
[07:49 am] qwert  : monitoring FB
[07:49 am] khall  : Obama getting ready to speak
[07:51 am] cowboyh  : we better grab our undies
[07:51 am] khall  : LOL
[07:53 am] doji  : TOS platform experiencing delayed quotes... dang
[07:53 am] qwert  : SINA
[07:58 am] victor51  : Ed, SI12-12 is same as SIZ12 for TradeStation?
[07:59 am] Ed : not sure i dont use TS for futures
[08:00 am] victor51  : Thanks Ed
[08:00 am] lisas  : Victor, for ts, us root SI plus month, Z, then year, so SIz12
[08:00 am] apple  : gm lisa
[08:01 am] lisas  : Also, up on top toolbar, there is a window "type a symbol/command". Right next to that is a magnifying glass. If you click on that, you can look up symbols
[08:01 am] lisas  : Hi apple. You are all shrunken this am, my larger monitor for laptop on the fritz
[08:01 am] shark  : SPY testing lod area
[08:01 am] lisas  : so hard to see chat
[08:02 am] apple  : i wish!
[08:08 am] qwert  : watching WBC
[08:11 am] eyes  : did you l Qwert
[08:12 am] taco  : WFM rounding out
[08:12 am] qwert  : did i what eyes
[08:12 am] shark  : l = long
[08:13 am] eyes  : long
[08:13 am] aussie123  : FLR
[08:13 am] qwert  : oh no did not L wbc, but in sina short 53.95  testing my patience
[08:15 am] qwert  : did u eyes
[08:15 am] eyes  : no
[08:16 am] qwert  : bounced right off ther 200 on the daily
[08:17 am] qwert  : was actually looking for 56 area though and more volume
[08:28 am] eyes  : swks down `12%
[08:30 am] apple  : are you in it, eyes?
[08:30 am] eyes  : no just heard the news
[08:30 am] apple  : nice short from the open
[08:30 am] eyes  : dont look that good
[08:32 am] doji  : SBUX
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : nothing like reading stuff about the collapse of the US$ to brighten your day haha
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : got something in the mail yesterday..depressing
[08:36 am] qwert  : QCOR moving
[08:37 am] apple  : @ES moving off lod
[08:37 am] doji  : I cannot trade.... TOS having issues to fill orders
[08:37 am] joeytsa  : thats no fun doji
[08:38 am] doji  : at all
[08:38 am] joeytsa  : good time to sit and watch..or go to the beach :)
[08:39 am] doji  : and my TS account is not working... every day I have to calll TS technical support to "activate" my computers... it's just a pain in the butt
[08:39 am] apple  : right, joey, or maybe do some work at your job....
[08:39 am] joeytsa  : thats weird..a glitch?
[08:39 am] apple  : not good doji.  you have Trade Station and Think or Swim?
[08:40 am] joeytsa  : always good to have more than 1 acct
[08:40 am] joeytsa  : better still when you can separate trading and "investing" accts
[08:41 am] joeytsa  : i believe Mitch mentioned that he had done that at one time also
[08:41 am] lisas  : Doji, did TS say why you have to activate computers everyday? Should not have to do that
[08:41 am] reshef  : sbux?
[08:43 am] Ed : cant recall, but word out there is that if Obama wins, there may be a chance he would cancel all US debt, which would crush the US dollar
[08:43 am] doji  : They always ask if I change something in my computer and my answer has been always NO!
[08:43 am] joeytsa  : i heard that rumor also Ed
[08:44 am] Ed : it would fit the them of the " one world order"
[08:44 am] joeytsa  : unless something happens, the $ looks like it could be toast...good chance loses its reserve status
[08:44 am] Ed : them=theme
[08:44 am] lisas  : Doji, you should get them to get you to someone advanced to fix the problem.
[08:45 am] Ed : agree with lisa, doji, should not have that issue
[08:45 am] joeytsa  : strange issue doji
[08:46 am] joeytsa  : only TS issues i ever get is when i type a ticker in a chart, sometimes it says data failed or something like that
[08:46 am] apple  : QCOR had some nice trades today
[08:46 am] lisas  : When you travel, could see different ISP's being an issue, but only the first time you sign in
[08:47 am] Ed : taking forever
[08:47 am] Ed : u still in it qwert?
[08:47 am] qwert  : i hear ya Ed
[08:48 am] qwert  : no got out last part when it broke trend
[08:48 am] regatta  : watching CTB
[08:48 am] qwert  : sorry i mean 20sma on 1 min
[08:49 am] joeytsa  : ES with res at both 1423 and 1427 areas
[08:49 am] Ed : ok
[08:49 am] doji  : APPL going south
[08:50 am] doji  : at 200dMA
[08:50 am] Ed : i gave it more time,seeing overal trend down
[08:50 am] qwert  : basically was staring at it when i should not have been  :))
[08:51 am] Ed : thats what help me stay in longer, if I was lookn at chart would have been gone ages ago
[08:51 am] qwert  : i have gotten spoiled by all the fast movers
[08:51 am] joeytsa  : thats my problem qwert
[08:52 am] joeytsa  : of course
[08:53 am] cowboyh  : I guess so this but dont let it happen again
[08:55 am] apple  : nice V on WTW
[08:57 am] murano  : Mitch, if we had Lightning we wouldn't have missed the second HAIN short
[08:58 am] joeytsa  : VRTX trying to move
[08:58 am] joeytsa  : ES in a 3pt range for over an hour
[08:58 am] apple  : bouncy, bouncy
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : really nice actually
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : been touching the pp and giving nice 4-8 tick moves
[09:00 am] qwert  : looks great mk
[09:01 am] jsn13  : why use 3min instead of 2min chart?
[09:01 am] murano  : When do we get Lightning?
[09:01 am] doji  : Waht about the previous one? Not short signal
[09:01 am] Ed : time frames are more of preference jsn
[09:01 am] murano  : That's great
[09:02 am] Ed : the shorter the time frame, the more signals
[09:02 am] jsn13  : understand i just wanan see consistency....hard to follow if we need to keep on switching timeframes....
[09:03 am] Ed : consistency come from within
[09:03 am] apple  : so does patience and peace
[09:03 am] jsn13  : ok thanks ed....understand....
[09:04 am] lisas  : jsn, I have 3 time charts side by side, arranged vertically
[09:04 am] lisas  : 1 min, 2 min and daily
[09:04 am] lisas  : it has help a lot
[09:04 am] lisas  : qcor
[09:04 am] lisas  : wrong window
[09:07 am] regatta  : lightning webinar any time soon?
[09:07 am] lisas  : Do you have a planned release date Mitch?
[09:08 am] apple  : thanksgiving?
[09:08 am] lisas  : Mitch, ya think? lol
[09:09 am] murano  : We have come to the conclusion it is making you so much money, you don't want to share.
[09:09 am] lisas  : It's been awhile since I studied Ninja, don't have Kinetick yet, holding off on paying fees until you are ready. So as Khall would say, should be put this in ink?
[09:09 am] joeytsa  : tighten VRTX if short
[09:09 am] khall  : Oh, don't do that - it ruined my date book last time ;-)
[09:09 am] lisas  : Or as I would do, permanent marker?
[09:10 am] apple  : hah, use white out
[09:10 am] apple  : i would be great if it as adapted to TradeStation, MK, so we don't have to pay for more feeds, etc.
[09:10 am] khall  : we only abuse the ones we love Mitch...
[09:11 am] lisas  : Cleaned out some drawers during hurrican, came across some old white out, wondered what on earth I would ever use it for, now I know apple:)
[09:11 am] apple  : i cleaned out the attic for those 2 days!
[09:11 am] lisas  : Mitch might get a case of white out for Christmas
[09:11 am] qwert  : hahaha
[09:11 am] lisas  : Wow apple, ambitious!
[09:12 am] apple  : hey, i never get undisturbed days
[09:13 am] shawn  : I really like these charts with the Arrows
[09:13 am] joeytsa  : i think it needs more colors  :)
[09:13 am] qwert  : lol
[09:13 am] shawn  : what do the diamonds mean?
[09:13 am] apple  : the funny thing is if you are color-blind, it could be a problem
[09:15 am] apple  : right MK, that is why you have Lightning...
[09:16 am] shawn  : is the stock we are watching GLD?
[09:16 am] joeytsa  : no shawn
[09:16 am] apple  : it's gold futures shawn
[09:16 am] joeytsa  : gold contract
[09:16 am] Ed : you are watching the future for gold contract
[09:16 am] shawn  : K
[09:17 am] jsn13  : why no stop?
[09:17 am] murano  : Consider a stop loss Mitch
[09:17 am] lisas  : you do need wider stops with gold
[09:17 am] Ed : he is showing how not to use
[09:17 am] qwert  : haha
[09:17 am] lisas  : There go our Christmas bonuses
[09:18 am] apple  : nice short on Gold
[09:19 am] lisas  : did GLD trigger at same time?
[09:19 am] murano  : Nice recovery
[09:19 am] lisas  : jsut curious
[09:19 am] joeytsa  : it moved, but not worth a trade
[09:19 am] joeytsa  : re; GLD
[09:20 am] lisas  : oh, is that a Renko chart on gold?
[09:20 am] lisas  : what does 5 range mean?
[09:20 am] lisas  : ok
[09:20 am] lisas  : so .50 per bar?
[09:22 am] qwert  : mitch are you anticipating sell signal
[09:23 am] qwert  : okay thx
[09:24 am] apple  : he's trying to outsmart Lightning
[09:25 am] lisas  : However, it was logical to see resistance at that level and sell
[09:25 am] joeytsa  : i thought so too lisa
[09:26 am] apple  : agree
[09:27 am] joeytsa  : shark: you here?
[09:27 am] joeytsa  : has to be tough trying to program something like this
[09:28 am] apple  : nice abs, joey!  if that is really you in the picture
[09:28 am] joeytsa  : trying to guess what human psychology will do
[09:28 am] joeytsa  : thanks apple, yes thats me  :)
[09:28 am] go4it  : ok to sum it up you bought too soon and sold to soon?
[09:28 am] apple  : i don't know, i don't see your smiling face...
[09:28 am] joeytsa  : :)
[09:29 am] apple  : lol
[09:29 am] lisas  : yep
[09:29 am] apple  : y
[09:30 am] joeytsa  : came right at that previous dbl bot
[09:30 am] go4it  : yes why didn't you wait for it?
[09:30 am] shawn  : will the lighting and Beta version work with the dow and Nasd?
[09:31 am] joeytsa  : it should shawn
[09:31 am] shawn  : I think we out to try it out on Monday?
[09:31 am] shawn  : If this thing works, we will have a Ferrari-:)
[09:32 am] elisha  : What do you mean if, Shawn?
[09:32 am] apple  : when
[09:32 am] joeytsa  : famous last words
[09:32 am] lisas  : But sim trade first shawn
[09:32 am] ticktrader  : We will start with stocks. I like easy.
[09:32 am] lisas  : Mitch's command
[09:32 am] shawn  : I hope your right elisha: I will take you for a ride!
[09:33 am] elisha  : ok, but prefer old jags
[09:33 am] apple  : love those, too, elisha
[09:33 am] elisha  : ''),apple
[09:33 am] apple  : flounder
[09:34 am] elisha  : you have a good memory!
[09:34 am] apple  : i do
[09:34 am] lisas  : I suspect time is going to be a good screen for trades
[09:34 am] lisas  : Yes
[09:34 am] lisas  : because you saw the red candle?
[09:35 am] ticktrader  : where did you cover... before the signal?
[09:37 am] elisha  : why didn't you take #3?
[09:37 am] shawn  : hindsight is 20/20
[09:38 am] apple  : and it was
[09:38 am] murano  : It may be easier for a beginner to follow the signals
[09:39 am] elisha  : Gof blrdd you Murano
[09:39 am] elisha  : oops, God bless you Murano
[09:39 am] cowboyh  : WTW dropping
[09:39 am] apple  : thx cowboy
[09:40 am] elisha  : Thanks Mitch, you just made my day!
[09:40 am] apple  : bye MK, thx
[09:41 am] joeytsa  : have fun Mitch
[09:41 am] lisas  : Thanks Mitch!
[09:41 am] apple  : have fun
[09:42 am] shawn  : is Lightnig your program, how do we get it?
[09:43 am] Ed : its a program Mitch has been working  on, he will be discussing that with us next week shawn
[09:43 am] shawn  : perfect
[09:44 am] lisas  : Man, I'm going to be out of town:(
[09:44 am] khall  : lisa - I'll email you the updates
[09:45 am] lisas  : Thanks khall. We're leaving to visit kids in CA on Wed
[09:45 am] lisas  : Get back following Wed.
[09:45 am] lisas  : Can you record it Mitch? Don't want to make everyone wait
[09:45 am] khall  : okay - I'll be leaving Friday for a week
[09:46 am] apple  : what's another week?...
[09:46 am] lisas  : It would be good to record it for future room members also
[09:46 am] elisha  : ditto
[09:46 am] cowboyh  : I can vist kids for you Lisas I'm allready here
[09:46 am] apple  : haha, good one cowboy
[09:46 am] lisas  : funny cowboy
[09:46 am] lisas  : ones in San Diego, other in Monterey, where are u
[09:46 am] apple  : up and down lisa
[09:47 am] lisas  : Mitch is a glutton for punishment
[09:47 am] apple  : nice places, tho
[09:47 am] lisas  : but he loves us
[09:47 am] apple  : yeah...
[09:47 am] cowboyh  : Monterys OK San Diego will have to wait until next week
[09:48 am] lisas  : Yeah, I saw that signal just before you closed it. What size stop do you use on gold futures?
[09:49 am] lisas  : and the password is????
[09:49 am] apple  : lisa, you are pistol
[09:49 am] qwert  : hahaha
[09:49 am] lisas  : You can tell i'm not in any trades:)
[09:49 am] joeytsa  : when lisa is quiet, she is in trade-mode
[09:50 am] qwert  : same here lisa
[09:51 am] lisas  : I do have a small long for KORS, stop at b/e though, so just leaving until eod
[09:51 am] qwert  : gc lower highs and lows
[09:51 am] apple  : right qwert
[09:52 am] Ed : i met 1 trader, he talks whole time, if in a trade or not
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : plus you have the ATM strategy you can use
[09:52 am] lisas  : with futures we'll have to pay more attention to news releases
[09:52 am] qwert  : in that case would you consider short to stay with overall trend
[09:52 am] Ed : right lisa, very sensitive to news
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : news/reports etc
[09:53 am] apple  : right MK, it smoothes out the noise
[09:53 am] qwert  : this am i was in a sim Cl trade and got 57 tics when job number came out very lucky
[09:54 am] apple  : nice one qwert
[09:54 am] Ed : another storm coming next week for east coast
[09:54 am] lisas  : yeah, cl can have huge slippage during news event
[09:54 am] Ed : nice qwert
[09:54 am] qwert  : yeah but was very lucky
[09:54 am] apple  : E - thx a lot!
[09:54 am] joeytsa  : nice qwert, ES is the same way
[09:54 am] joeytsa  : would assume the YM and others are also
[09:55 am] Ed : will mainly be mid atlantic region
[09:55 am] qwert  : got like an extra 20 tics higher than my target was
[09:55 am] joeytsa  : yeah Ed, noreaster
[09:56 am] apple  : just saw a headline "man sued his wife for birthing ugly baby" lol
[09:56 am] joeytsa  : on news, you can always keep your stop in place but cancel your target
[09:56 am] cowboyh  : Sounds like hollywood apple
[09:56 am] joeytsa  : if it shoots in your direction, either put in a target or just drag your stop up
[09:56 am] khall  : Thanks Ed
[09:57 am] Ed : so as advancer could get nice bounce, or if they are taken out will be quick fast drop
[09:58 am] apple  : right joey
[09:58 am] joeytsa  : Ed: do you ever bracket something like that?
[09:59 am] lisas  : lunch time, later all
[09:59 am] reshef  : MDC
[09:59 am] Ed : i have not in futures I just see how action palys out
[10:00 am] joeytsa  : oh ok, just wondered
[10:00 am] Ed : but most time Im prepared to act fast
[10:00 am] joeytsa  : yeah, im a bit too slow sometimes
[10:01 am] Ed : but it can offer appetite for all
[10:01 am] reshef  : DO
[10:04 am] Ed : yea qwert u been able to sell the highs on GC 12-12
[10:04 am] joeytsa  : if anyone is around at 2:28PDT, on NBC sports, we have a horse running in the $1M  Breeders Cup Juvenile Filly Turf race
[10:05 am] joeytsa  : #2  Summer of Fun , bunch of great races today and tomorrow
[10:05 am] Ed : so thats like 5:28 my time
[10:05 am] reshef  : OIS
[10:05 am] joeytsa  : yeah
[10:05 am] qwert  : today Joey
[10:05 am] Ed : cool we get to see where that 48k per year goes
[10:05 am] joeytsa  : im not invested in this one though
[10:05 am] shawn  : good luck Joeytsa
[10:06 am] Ed : will call peta, u dont feed the hors
[10:06 am] joeytsa  : $30K just to enter her,  winners share is $600K
[10:06 am] khall  : good luck joey - I hope she does well
[10:06 am] shawn  : you feed the horse and not the Jockey
[10:06 am] qwert  : that probably covers about a monthes expenses Ed
[10:06 am] joeytsa  : top jockey aboard today also
[10:07 am] shawn  : thats why they call it the sport of kings, you need to have and oil well in your back yard
[10:07 am] joeytsa  : dont recommend investing in a horse though haha
[10:08 am] doji  : Invest in a Donkey... hahaha
[10:09 am] joeytsa  : already married  hahahaha
[10:09 am] doji  : lol
[10:09 am] joeytsa  : does anyone using TS ever get a "data failed" when changing symbols on a chart?
[10:10 am] ticktrader  : I do get that message, but if I reenter the symbol the error goes away
[10:10 am] joeytsa  : it loads up my matrix,2min,t/s etc but not my 1min chart
[10:11 am] ticktrader  : Yes, it has happened, but the error does not last long
[10:11 am] joeytsa  : thx, i just type in another symbol and it loads
[10:13 am] joeytsa  : nice one on MDVN..good call
[10:13 am] apple  : yes joey a lot actuall, sometimes it's with the timeframe
[10:14 am] joeytsa  : oh ok, wasnt sure if it was just my issue..never saw anyone here ask about it or complain etc?
[10:14 am] joeytsa  : everything but the 1min loads
[10:15 am] joeytsa  : and only occasionally, not everytime i switch symbols
[10:15 am] doji  : APPL
[10:15 am] joeytsa  : lod on AAPL
[10:15 am] reshef  : ATHN
[10:16 am] doji  : I was waiting for this short... dand I cannot trade
[10:17 am] joeytsa  : still having TOS issues doji?
[10:19 am] doji  : Yes, they said it is the connectivy between TOS and TDA
[10:20 am] doji  : They will "upgrade" my platform to an enhance version they said is only available to certain customers....
[10:20 am] doji  : hahah and my name is Kahn for sure
[10:20 am] joeytsa  : just as long as you can trade again
[10:20 am] Ed : u finally told them who u are
[10:21 am] doji  : hahah
[10:21 am] Ed : an opec minister
[10:22 am] doji  : you know yesterday I place an order for 10,000 shares of RDN at the open and was filled only 6,500 even though the price was below my entry order
[10:22 am] doji  : they said the NYSE only opnened at 9:32:04
[10:22 am] doji  : and therefore my order was not fully filled
[10:23 am] doji  : Can that happen?
[10:23 am] joeytsa  : sounds like it did
[10:23 am] doji  : They said every stocks open at different times
[10:23 am] Ed : thats common for nyse
[10:23 am] joeytsa  : NYSE stocks can
[10:24 am] joeytsa  : Nasdaq opens right on the bell
[10:24 am] doji  : do you where I can find out at waht time every stocks open at the NYSE?
[10:24 am] doji  : know
[10:24 am] doji  : at the NYSE site?
[10:24 am] joeytsa  : not sure anymore, but it used to be up to the specialist
[10:24 am] joeytsa  : thats why i used to only trade gaps on Nasdaq stocks
[10:25 am] joeytsa  : used to happen moreso due to an imbalance of orders
[10:26 am] joeytsa  : not sure if thats still the case though doji
[10:27 am] joeytsa  : nice catch Ed
[10:27 am] joeytsa  : daily close to one also
[10:28 am] joeytsa  : see if the 200ema holds
[10:28 am] Ed : those 2 ousted started day 1 with steve jobs
[10:29 am] doji  : Thanks Joey
[10:29 am] joeytsa  : ES to test pp again
[10:33 am] joeytsa  : lunch time , see you all in 30
[10:35 am] ticktrader  : Ed- Can you explain the Commodity channel index around 12:43 versus the price. Price keeps dropping and CCI is increasing. Why?
[10:35 am] Ed : did not mention the 1670 level on GC 12-12 bcuz thats very obvious
[10:36 am] Ed : meant to take it off tick, i use to use it when trading futures
[10:37 am] reshef  : ED, wHAT YOU SHOW ON THE CHART, THE REVERSAL?
[10:37 am] ticktrader  : So use only Stochastic with stocks?
[10:37 am] reshef  : 69.60
[10:37 am] Ed : No I trade price action, I use to use stochastics, have not last 2 years
[10:38 am] Ed : yes reshef, DO  is showing a reversal
[10:38 am] Ed : I keep the stochastics up on chart on right because many still use it
[10:42 am] qwert  : Watching SKUL
[10:45 am] murano  : CRUS
[10:47 am] eyes  : CRUS bear cup 15
[10:48 am] Ed : good eye eyes
[10:50 am] doji  : 35.4 was the level to look at
[10:51 am] doji  : 31,5 level for support
[10:53 am] lisas  : so doji, if market closes down, challenger wins?
[10:55 am] qwert  : thx mk
[10:56 am] ticktrader  : Ed is always going with the trend. I need to change my mindset.
[10:56 am] reshef  : fosl
[11:00 am] qwert  : Ed are you short CRUS
[11:00 am] Ed : yes
[11:01 am] qwert  : what price or time
[11:02 am] Ed : 34.01
[11:02 am] qwert  : nice
[11:02 am] Ed : waited for bounce close to resistance
[11:02 am] qwert  : whats your tgt
[11:03 am] Ed : I covered 3/4 on that drop
[11:03 am] Ed : will trail last 1/4
[11:03 am] Ed : u recall the oil spill in bottom of ocean?
[11:03 am] Ed : thats my target
[11:03 am] qwert  : hahaha
[11:04 am] joeytsa  : did news hit?
[11:04 am] Ed : lol
[11:04 am] joeytsa  : everytime i go to lunch a nice move hits
[11:04 am] Ed : im trailing last 1/4 behind the 20 sma
[11:04 am] qwert  : thx
[11:05 am] Ed : i think of craziest things at times
[11:05 am] Ed : was good eye by murano and eyes
[11:07 am] joeytsa  : looked like AAPL just stepping down $1 at a time
[11:09 am] Ed : yes, that trend says down down down
[11:09 am] Ed : that bear cup was nice also
[11:10 am] joeytsa  : VRTX moving again
[11:11 am] joeytsa  : did something newswise cause that SPY selloff?
[11:12 am] eyes  : would you short here
[11:12 am] Ed : its like it was tight range and dropped, lack of buyers, dont really see any news
[11:13 am] Ed : i dont play those eyes, may want to ask joey
[11:13 am] joeytsa  : decent move for no news though, just wondered
[11:13 am] joeytsa  : on VRTX eyes??
[11:14 am] eyes  : ya i didnt play it wanted more vol
[11:14 am] joeytsa  : im looking to see if support holds and gets another upmove
[11:14 am] joeytsa  : i missed that 1st move
[11:14 am] qwert  : 44.50 area joey?
[11:15 am] joeytsa  : been on an uptrend since that bottom just after the open
[11:15 am] joeytsa  : but has res at 45 and 46
[11:15 am] joeytsa  : i have a line here at 44.77 qwert
[11:15 am] qwert  : okay thx
[11:16 am] joeytsa  : my TS pp's are a bit different than the ones i used on esig
[11:16 am] joeytsa  : looks like they re-set once the trading day starts
[11:16 am] joeytsa  : so its likes i have 2 sets..does that make sense?
[11:17 am] joeytsa  : ALXN a dog all month of oct
[11:18 am] joeytsa  : daily chart gave nice short signal on that lower high...best reason to study daily charts esp if you swing trade
[11:18 am] joeytsa  : that lower high was 10/18 on ALXN
[11:19 am] joeytsa  : 25pts in the money so far
[11:19 am] aussie123  : Joey ...ran into that before..sometimes they use after hours & pre market
[11:19 am] joeytsa  : yeah, and if you scroll back you can see both
[11:19 am] joeytsa  : its really throws me off right on the open, cant see the price..have to look at the matrix
[11:20 am] aussie123  : to set daily pivots
[11:20 am] joeytsa  : wonder if there is a way to only have yesterdays info?  But the todays ones also work
[11:21 am] joeytsa  : qwert: nice call on that 44.50 pullback..hit 44.51  :)
[11:22 am] qwert  : :))
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : ES cons here
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : support @ 1415, res @ 1417, 1418
[11:22 am] lisas  : taking off, have a great weekend all!
[11:22 am] qwert  : bye lisa
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : pivot is at 1419
[11:23 am] joeytsa  : bye lisa lisa
[11:23 am] joeytsa  : bombs away on AAPL
[11:23 am] shark  : SSYS testing lod 4th time
[11:24 am] joeytsa  : thx shark, $61 looks important huh
[11:24 am] shark  : yeah, watch for poss break on vol
[11:26 am] joeytsa  : another bear cup formation also
[11:26 am] murano  : BMRN
[11:27 am] eyes  : BMRN bull Cup 15
[11:27 am] shark  : nice murano
[11:29 am] joeytsa  : tighten AAPL if short
[11:29 am] joeytsa  : still weak
[11:30 am] shark  : AAPL below 200day now
[11:30 am] joeytsa  : doji will be mad, he has been waiting for this short on AAPL
[11:30 am] shark  : yeah..
[11:31 am] shark  : SSYS new lod
[11:32 am] shark  : DDD too
[11:32 am] joeytsa  : SSYS, now $60 has to hold
[11:33 am] joeytsa  : loss there, maybe get $1-2 move?
[11:33 am] joeytsa  : CLR lod
[11:33 am] joeytsa  : nice Ed
[11:34 am] shark  : nice line in sand, Ed
[11:37 am] joeytsa  : market feels very heavy to me
[11:37 am] shark  : SPY new lod
[11:37 am] shark  : stop doing pushups with your computer, joey
[11:37 am] joeytsa  : haha
[11:38 am] shark  : ;)
[11:38 am] shark  : or benchpress....
[11:38 am] joeytsa  : it is chest day..how did you know
[11:38 am] shark  : 33% chance of being right
[11:39 am] joeytsa  : 20 sets coming up  :)
[11:39 am] joeytsa  : ES at S1
[11:39 am] shark  : SPY testing S1
[11:39 am] shark  : AAPL taking the whole eco system with it
[11:40 am] joeytsa  : AAPL IS the eco-system :)
[11:40 am] qwert  : ALXN near low
[11:40 am] shark  : must have that name patented, too
[11:40 am] shark  : AND trademarked
[11:42 am] qwert  : another drop in CRUS
[11:42 am] joeytsa  : over 20pt drop on the ES from the highs
[11:43 am] joeytsa  : GS/AAPL/ES all got green candles at same time
[11:43 am] Ed : machines are good
[11:44 am] Ed : or is it the people that turn them on
[11:44 am] joeytsa  : ya think  haha
[11:44 am] joeytsa  : BIDU lod
[11:45 am] shark  : nice job, Ed
[11:45 am] shark  : CRUS
[11:45 am] Ed : thx
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : crude closed below $85
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : that darn Bush, he's always trying to lower the price of oil...oh wait :)
[11:47 am] shark  : CRUS new lod
[11:48 am] shark  : AAPL testing lod
[11:50 am] joeytsa  : heading into the weekend, greek.com has the presidential betting line at  $380-$100 democrats
[11:50 am] joeytsa  : AAPL db bot on pos div
[11:50 am] shark  : are there odds in Vegas, joey?
[11:50 am] joeytsa  : not sure
[11:51 am] qwert  : Ed are you short ALXN
[11:51 am] Ed : yes
[11:51 am] joeytsa  : most betting places are limiting max bets, greek.com accepting much higher levels
[11:52 am] Ed : i waited to see how action was, kept getting rejected higher prices so took small short with tight stop on risking .07
[11:52 am] eyes  : take care everyone have a awesome weekend
[11:52 am] joeytsa  : perfect trading Ed
[11:52 am] joeytsa  : bye eyes
[11:52 am] shark  : bye eyes
[11:52 am] qwert  : arte you short at 89.20 area
[11:52 am] Ed : 89.21
[11:53 am] Ed : stop 89.28
[11:53 am] qwert  : is your stop just over 20sma on 1 min
[11:53 am] qwert  : thx
[11:54 am] joeytsa  : did anyone take taht ALXN short from that lower high near $89.80?
[11:54 am] Ed : i used .01 above wick that was rejected
[11:54 am] reshef  : Ed, I see most you are trade on the trand?
[11:54 am] Ed : it either works or it doesnot
[11:54 am] joeytsa  : nice Ed, i probably would have used 89.32ish..depending on what my target would have been
[11:54 am] Ed : I trade with trend and againest it reshef
[11:55 am] Ed : but many trades today the big money has been with trend
[11:55 am] reshef  : thanks
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : hard to fight a strong trend
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : good time to play whack-a-mole on those
[11:56 am] Ed : thats good area too, joey, i just played this one tight
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : just eyeballed with the horizontal lines
[11:57 am] joeytsa  : i didnt take that one though, in hindsight, i guess my target would have been $89, giving approx 2:1 r/r
[11:57 am] Ed : I already took 3/4 off, when did not get nice downside momentum
[11:58 am] joeytsa  : more realistic target would be $89.02 or .03, for a quick scalp and getting out with momentum before the rd #
[11:58 am] Ed : it is funny though when ur 1/4 makes more than ur 3/4
[11:58 am] Ed : right
[11:58 am] joeytsa  : haha
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : im 99% all in and all out
[11:59 am] Ed : and no vol came in
[11:59 am] Ed : Im all out
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : cant remember that last time i scaled in or out
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : need to work on adding to winners
[12:00 pm] Ed : i do it at times
[12:00 pm] Ed : on fast movers Im all in all out 100%
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : definately..sometimes so fast im
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : none-in  haha
[12:00 pm] doji  : Me neither... and as one of my old girlfriends told me once, it's all or nothing... hahah
[12:00 pm] Ed : lol
[12:01 pm] joeytsa  : nice top of the hour move
[12:01 pm] joeytsa  : always have to pay attention to top of the hour...its like traders wake up or something
[12:02 pm] joeytsa  : watching AAPL here
[12:02 pm] shark  : on your AAPL TV?
[12:03 pm] jsn13  : Ed, did u short CRUS again?
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : not that high-tech yet
[12:03 pm] Ed : no
[12:03 pm] Ed : i moved on
[12:03 pm] shark  : oh, that's right, it's going to be another appless tv year, hasn't come out, yet
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : i only have basic cable..no movies,satellite etc
[12:04 pm] jsn13  : but was there a valid short entry at 3pm est bar?
[12:04 pm] jsn13  : or is the odds much lower after such huge drop today?
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : looked like a decent signal jsn
[12:05 pm] shark  : NFLX is good, joey. Only 8.99/mo
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : i dont watch much tv
[12:05 pm] shark  : probably better...
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : 3 weekly shows, some horse races, some football  thats it
[12:05 pm] shark  : :)
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : and cnbc during trading
[12:08 pm] joeytsa  : tighten AAPL here if long
[12:09 pm] joeytsa  : didnt take that long on ALXN
[12:10 pm] joeytsa  : CF lost $200
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : the level, not that much today :)
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : another chart with lower highs ( whack-a-mole )  :)
[12:15 pm] shark  : have the presidential candidates shaken all 330m hands yet?
[12:15 pm] skydiver  : I think twice shark
[12:15 pm] shark  : lol
[12:15 pm] skydiver  : :)
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : not sure either one really wants this job
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : not sure this debt issue can be controlled
[12:17 pm] skydiver  : do we have time to do a write in?   Joey for president :)
[12:17 pm] shark  : Hyundai, Kia to pay owners for overstated mpg
[12:17 pm] shark  : JOEY for pres... :)
[12:17 pm] joeytsa  : i was going to run a facebook campaign
[12:17 pm] joeytsa  : no wasted money on trips,donations etc
[12:17 pm] shark  : and you can work at home
[12:17 pm] skydiver  : all the more reason to vote for Joey :)
[12:17 pm] shark  : rent out the white house
[12:18 pm] shark  : I'll find a good tenant
[12:18 pm] joeytsa  : hire the best people for advice
[12:19 pm] aussie123  : need a CFO???
[12:19 pm] shark  : it's called Vice Prez, aussie..
[12:19 pm] shark  : you have to live in USA
[12:20 pm] joeytsa  : tough job, 0bama has really aged these past 4 yrs
[12:20 pm] aussie123  : You can have the VICE...I will han
[12:20 pm] skydiver  : yeah, it's always amazing to see the various presidents age so very fast while in office
[12:20 pm] aussie123  : handle the money
[12:21 pm] shark  : there is no money, USA broke
[12:21 pm] shark  : just IOU's
[12:21 pm] aussie123  : Print more
[12:21 pm] joeytsa  : if the US$ loses its status as the worlds reserve currency..things will get really tough
[12:22 pm] skydiver  : BTH
[12:22 pm] aussie123  : British sterling went that way guys
[12:22 pm] joeytsa  : 31 states face budget shortfall for 2013
[12:22 pm] joeytsa  : states cant print $
[12:22 pm] shark  : only 31? wow
[12:22 pm] reshef  : bth
[12:23 pm] shark  : nice sky, BTH
[12:23 pm] skydiver  : :)
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : countries already working to stop trading in US$
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : AAPL coming in to test $580 again
[12:26 pm] shark  : only 1/2% bounce on AAPL, was small
[12:26 pm] shark  : new lod
[12:26 pm] shark  : on vol
[12:27 pm] skydiver  : :)
[12:28 pm] joeytsa  : sky: did you short it?
[12:28 pm] skydiver  : nope -- just caught it on my scanner and threw it out
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : still nice call, i was focused on AAPL
[12:29 pm] skydiver  : thnx Mitch
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : one heck of a range breakdown on BTH though
[12:30 pm] Ed : that was a gift
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : icky-shuffle before the fall  haha
[12:30 pm] Ed : yea :)
[12:30 pm] jsn13  : where did u shor it ed? may i know the entry time and price?
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : mm's hitting orders possibly
[12:31 pm] skydiver  : l BTH 19.36
[12:31 pm] Ed : 3:24 est
[12:31 pm] Ed : 20.31
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : 1410 trying to hold on ES
[12:32 pm] jsn13  : did u take the long?
[12:32 pm] Ed : that was short
[12:32 pm] Ed : u asked where did i take short
[12:32 pm] doji  : BTH still weak
[12:32 pm] jsn13  : yes....my next question is do u take it long after the short?
[12:32 pm] Ed : no did not take long
[12:32 pm] jsn13  : ok thanks....
[12:32 pm] Ed : i moved on
[12:33 pm] Ed : i replaced the chart on my system
[12:33 pm] Ed : u moved really fast for me jsn, u know im slow and confused
[12:33 pm] joeytsa  : tighten AAPL is short
[12:33 pm] doji  : Sky, I am seeing your entries have lagged a little bit since this morning....
[12:33 pm] qwert  : no shares at lightspeed on BTH for short
[12:33 pm] jsn13  : so u did not wait till the break of lod? or else u wont get 20.3 entry...
[12:34 pm] skydiver  : yeah doji . . . I am slow thinker today . . need more coffee
[12:34 pm] shark  : DOJIIIIII
[12:34 pm] jsn13  : im slower than u ed...
[12:34 pm] shark  : did you grab AAPL s?
[12:34 pm] qwert  : joey is your data from esignal a little wierd today?
[12:34 pm] doji  : You are good Sky...
[12:34 pm] doji  : Shark!
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : not using esig anymore
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : only lightspeed and tradestation for stocks
[12:34 pm] Ed : did not wait, markets weak, stock got rejected big time by 21, so took short based on that expecting close test of lod, i got lot more
[12:34 pm] doji  : No Shark, having issues with TOS since midday... I have just been watching
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : sometimes schwab for other charts
[12:35 pm] qwert  : okay mine seems to be off today been getting some gaps
[12:35 pm] shark  : oh man...
[12:35 pm] jsn13  : where was ur stop?
[12:35 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, Ed showed a gap on an esig chart earlier
[12:35 pm] shark  : +.60/share on  BTH :)
[12:35 pm] qwert  : yeah ive been getting some but only on my 1 min chart
[12:35 pm] Ed : 20.67 was my stop
[12:36 pm] joeytsa  : nice play on BTH
[12:36 pm] skydiver  : sold 3/4 BTH L 19.91
[12:36 pm] qwert  : dang it stop to tight on aapl short
[12:36 pm] jsn13  : u r using wide stop?
[12:36 pm] joeytsa  : have to use a wider stop on stocks like AAPL
[12:36 pm] Mitch K: anyone long BTH
[12:36 pm] skydiver  : yes Mitch - last piece
[12:36 pm] shark  : I'm all out
[12:36 pm] joeytsa  : $1 moves on AAPL quick and regular
[12:36 pm] Mitch K: no sell signal yet
[12:37 pm] cowboyh  : all out
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : BTH needs to push over $20
[12:37 pm] doji  : BTH safe entry would have been 19
[12:37 pm] skydiver  : ok . . . I'm holding onto my last 1/4 piece on BTH  . . . see what happens
[12:37 pm] shark  : lightning! lightning! lightning!
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : right doji, and $19.20 area if you missed that
[12:37 pm] doji  : What was your stop Sky? Below 18.69?
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : bounced up pulled back and held the 5ma
[12:38 pm] Ed : nice call on the long of BTH Mitch
[12:38 pm] doji  : and exit at 3:51 or the next candle would have taken your stop Joey
[12:39 pm] joeytsa  : 3:51??
[12:39 pm] skydiver  : yes -- thnx Mitch for that long call on BTH :)
[12:39 pm] doji  : 3:32PM Joey....
[12:39 pm] qwert  : ssys
[12:40 pm] joeytsa  : late entry was 3:33pm bar
[12:40 pm] doji  : APPL have lost over $20 today
[12:40 pm] Ed : it was not a wide stop 4me jsn
[12:41 pm] doji  : Watch CRUS on Monday... around $31.5
[12:41 pm] jsn13  : ok i see....thanks....
[12:41 pm] joeytsa  : for me, stops depend on my target
[12:41 pm] Ed : either way stock was going to move big
[12:42 pm] jsn13  : bigger mover, bigger stop....
[12:42 pm] Ed : in context of ur trade
[12:42 pm] jsn13  : as long as has nice r:r ratio
[12:42 pm] doji  : Long APPL 576.8 (virtual entry)
[12:42 pm] jsn13  : ok understand....just wanna have some reference....
[12:42 pm] joeytsa  : you probably want an absolute minimum of 2:1
[12:43 pm] jsn13  : ya joey thats my built in...
[12:43 pm] jsn13  : i wont even talk about a trade that has less than 2:1 r:r ratio....
[12:43 pm] jsn13  : haha...
[12:43 pm] joeytsa  : i like 4:1, but i also like my maids to look like jessica alba..doesnt always happen haha
[12:43 pm] cowboyh  : Have a good weekend everyone, Obama week next either yea or nea
[12:43 pm] Ed : i risked about .36 for 1.37
[12:44 pm] joeytsa  : great one Ed  7:2 odds
[12:44 pm] jsn13  : do u anticipate that 1.37?
[12:44 pm] qwert  : nice ed
[12:44 pm] doji  : APPL could bounce back to $580
[12:44 pm] Ed : based on range of stock yes, new would get big move was not sure of which way
[12:44 pm] joeytsa  : quick traders can,  i just eyeball
[12:45 pm] jsn13  : cos my 1st perceived potential support would have been at 20....
[12:45 pm] joeytsa  : BTH i saw $20 as a target, but $21 was also realistic
[12:45 pm] joeytsa  : im talking long from $19 area..sorry
[12:46 pm] joeytsa  : $20 is a rd# + a decade #...
[12:46 pm] jsn13  : but when the stock is weak, i should not have used 20 as potential support for that short....
[12:46 pm] Ed : if stock was not mover, i would have never touched it
[12:46 pm] joeytsa  : $21 is approx 50% retracement
[12:47 pm] jsn13  : so for u ed, u wont really care bout that 20 potential support when u shorted at 20.31?
[12:47 pm] Ed : but the way sellers were dumping that stock potential support becomes like butter
[12:47 pm] joeytsa  : decades/century #'s: i used to use those for swing trades
[12:47 pm] joeytsa  : old saying :  there is no support on a falling stock
[12:48 pm] Ed : always consistent in ur approach jsn,
[12:48 pm] Ed : but flexible as well
[12:48 pm] jsn13  : ok understand...and the nicest thing is that it was a new 52weeks low so no obvious support on daily...at least for this year....
[12:48 pm] joeytsa  : there was a time you could buy just about any stock when it got to $97, because of the $100 magnet
[12:48 pm] jsn13  : yes im learning to be flexible by observing how all of u trade....
[12:48 pm] skydiver  : moving stop up on BT L
[12:48 pm] skydiver  : BTH - sorry
[12:49 pm] shark  : Ed, what was the name of that technical tradinng book we spoke about last week?
[12:49 pm] jsn13  : joey, if possible next time, i would like to see ur entry prices.....i learning by observing and having reference...
[12:49 pm] skydiver  : all out of BTH L  10.01
[12:49 pm] Ed : my though on BTH jsn was since it looked weak at that time, short it where i did, and reverse for the long, but the short paid huuge dividends
[12:49 pm] skydiver  : 20.01
[12:50 pm] Ed : its by john murphy
[12:50 pm] Ed : i forget the title
[12:50 pm] joeytsa  : jsn: will try, i didnt trade BTH, was following along with those who did
[12:50 pm] shark  : Technical Analysis of the Financial Markets?
[12:50 pm] Ed : thats it
[12:50 pm] joeytsa  : yes
[12:50 pm] shark  : thx :)
[12:51 pm] jsn13  : i would like to see what do u mean by higher low entries....at what point would they qualify as higher low....at least for u....
[12:51 pm] Ed : is taco here
[12:51 pm] shark  : he probably went to get a burrito
[12:51 pm] doji  : I didn't realized how bad BTH was dumped... Ed. you are right, the short paid play was the best
[12:51 pm] jsn13  : joey, cos u told me u always go long on higher lows for bounce play...
[12:52 pm] Ed : right doji, the dumped it big time
[12:52 pm] joeytsa  : thats something i do look at
[12:52 pm] joeytsa  : i like longs on higher lows or  dbl bottoms with positive divergence
[12:53 pm] skydiver  : well, for a Friday and for about 3 hours of work -- I'll take the $1664 profit as a nice ending of the week for me :)
[12:53 pm] ticktrader  : shark: tacos and burritos are making me hungry
[12:53 pm] jsn13  : ed and joey thanks for ur inputs.....u guys r my role models...
[12:53 pm] Ed : taco must not be here but especially for anyone that played sports, there are other examples, u get into a zone and ur reacting to all u see, ur not thinking about, and it allows u to flow freely and be flexible
[12:53 pm] joeytsa  : they dont always work out, but the higher low is basically a re-test
[12:53 pm] taco  : )
[12:53 pm] joeytsa  : right Ed
[12:53 pm] Ed : this is when ur at ur optimal, and for trading thats where u want to be
[12:53 pm] shark  : ;)
[12:54 pm] skydiver  : thnx Ed -- good teaching
[12:54 pm] joeytsa  : you can make a nice living just focusing on 1 pattern also
[12:54 pm] jsn13  : Ed, r u gonna hold a training 2mr?
[12:54 pm] shark  : then you get bored, and want more patterns
[12:54 pm] jsn13  : i mean training session....
[12:54 pm] Ed : driving is the same, u see a kid run in front of the car, without thinking u hit the brakes
[12:54 pm] joeytsa  : right shark,  you can buy higher lows in an uptrend, short lower highs in a downtrend etc
[12:55 pm] shark  : SSYS new lod
[12:55 pm] Ed : ur reacting
[12:55 pm] joeytsa  : or hit the kid and take his halloween candy :)
[12:55 pm] jsn13  : but before that that u need to learn the right way 1st...with the irght system....
[12:55 pm] skydiver  : right on jsn13
[12:55 pm] Ed : but that part is not that hard
[12:55 pm] Ed : the hard part is getting out of our own way
[12:55 pm] jsn13  : if not, u will have wrong reflexes...
[12:55 pm] joeytsa  : much easier to have 1 setup to look for
[12:56 pm] shark  : PCLN finishing at lod
[12:56 pm] Ed : thats why Mitch always talks about learn and stick to 1 technique until ur really good at it
[12:56 pm] joeytsa  : exactly
[12:56 pm] shark  : like in sports, get good at 1 position, play it over and over again
[12:56 pm] Ed : like joey is saying thats all u need, 1 strategy to make alot of money
[12:56 pm] Ed : right shark
[12:57 pm] joeytsa  : just like running a pizza shop
[12:57 pm] Ed : many of us try to play all positions and we are subpar at all
[12:57 pm] jsn13  : Ed, do we have a training session 2mr?
[12:57 pm] joeytsa  : dont try to also offer dry cleaning ;)
[12:57 pm] Ed : no, will let u knw when i do next one
[12:57 pm] shark  : what about salads?
[12:57 pm] jsn13  : ok thanks ed.....
[12:58 pm] Ed : whats the old saying, jack of all trades master of ......?
[12:58 pm] joeytsa  : Thank you Mitch,Ed, everyone..hope you have a great day
[12:58 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:58 pm] shark  : thx joey! bye
[12:58 pm] taco  : ditto, c ya joey
[12:58 pm] jsn13  : over the time, i realised that learning multiple strategies help me to be alot more flexible...even though i focus primarily on reversals...
[12:58 pm] Ed : jack of all trades master of none
[12:59 pm] Ed : but it so easy to be flexible with 1 strategy
[12:59 pm] jsn13  : as i learn more about breakouts, gappers, my reversal strategy improve by alot...
[12:59 pm] Ed : get really good then move to net
[12:59 pm] ticktrader  : Jsn, I am new and I focus on reversal but lately I have started following the trend
[01:00 pm] Ed : trend is really great for new traders starting off
[01:00 pm] jsn13  : Ed, I must thank u in demonstrating to us what is the right thing to do....
[01:00 pm] shark  : rules, rules, rules
[01:01 pm] jsn13  : by knowing ur entries and exits, i became a better driver....
[01:01 pm] Ed : we try to help as much as possible, and thx for reminder when we get off track
[01:01 pm] shark  : :)
[01:01 pm] ticktrader  : I concur with Jsn. Thank you Ed.
[01:01 pm] elisha  : Me too, thank you Ed
[01:02 pm] Ed : thank you also, its not 1 way, you all help make and keep me stronger
[01:02 pm] qwert  : goodnight everybody  have a great weekend
[01:02 pm] ticktrader  : Have a wonderful weekend.
[01:03 pm] qwert  : send profits to qwert
[01:03 pm] jsn13  : i learn by looking at examples.....although we might have different style, looking at ur entries and exits just make things so much clearer...like when u have the highest probabilities even when u r fighting the trend...
[01:03 pm] elisha  : net or gross?
[01:03 pm] dmitry  : Have a great weekend everyone!
[01:03 pm] jsn13  : thank u guys and have a great weekend....
[01:04 pm] elisha  : GN Mitch, Ed and all

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