Chat Highlights From 10/31/2013

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(05:44 am) Mitch King:that last buy signal on CL should be pretty decent, starting 7 min ago (05:50 am) JoeyTSA :early gap up: EXPE,PRGO,SWKS Early gap down : VRX,WTW,SPWR,ARIA? thats all im looking at right now (05:52 am) Mitch King:ARIA heading to its death bed (05:53 am) Mitch King:watching FB selling off (05:54 am) Mitch King:TSLA down again today (05:56 am) Mitch King:EXPE up 18-20% on earnings yesterday after market (05:58 am) JoeyTSA :watching FB here @ $48 (06:01 am) Mitch King:we just came out of the buy zone and into white, had higher bounce, starting uptrend overall (06:02 am) Mitch King:conference call with FB admitted young teens are decreasing use of facedbook. (06:10 am) JoeyTSA :tighten FB if short below $48 (06:10 am) Mitch King:watching SCTY for a bottom to buy (06:13 am) Mitch King:higher high with CL, no reason to sell yet that I can tell, just let the profit targets fill (06:13 am) Mitch's Assist. :October 31, 2013, Thursday Pre Market Up: DWCH, EXPE, CRTO, PCLN, Pre Market Down: FB, GMCR, ARIA, SCTY, CAVM,WTW, AVP, FSLR, TSLA, BIDU, DATA, V, SPWR, NUGT, SBUX, JDSU, EXLS, (06:15 am) Mitch King:purple dash line just starting heading up about 8-10 candles again, watch that for strength of move up (06:17 am) Mitch King:not much weighting on 200ma, thats on the 1 min chart, not 5 range chart (06:17 am) Mitch King:thats what you are looking for on a new uptrend (06:17 am) Mitch King:higher high again in CL (06:30 am) Mitch King:AVP turning down more , down from 22.40 premarket (06:30 am) Mitch's Assist. :monitoring CAVM (06:30 am) JoeyTSA :watchign STRA, decent gap down (06:31 am) JoeyTSA :nice pop on TWC (06:31 am) Mitch's Assist. :watching SGI drop (06:31 am) Mitch King:monitoring SNE selling again (06:31 am) JoeyTSA :keep FB on radar (06:32 am) Mitch King:watching CLX, monitoring actually (06:32 am) Mitch's Assist. :watching WTW (06:32 am) Mitch King:watchign CCK for top (06:33 am) Mitch King:watchign SCTY for bottom to buy (06:33 am) Mitch King:sentiment is changing to bearish in market overall last 2 days (06:33 am) JoeyTSA :eye on VRX today (06:33 am) Mitch King:KORS down, monitoring (06:34 am) Mitch King:watching BIDU for bottom, take time on all these dumpers, market is negative (06:34 am) JoeyTSA :eye on LNKD,AAPL, both giving pullbacks (06:34 am) Mitch's Assist. :watching NSR (06:34 am) Mitch King:watching BEAM for bottom to buy, (06:35 am) Mitch King:watching CL, started pink zone (06:35 am) Mitch King:yeah regatta NSR good one (06:35 am) Mitch's Assist. :soryy GMCR (06:35 am) Mitch's Assist. :grmn (06:35 am) Mitch's Assist. :monitoring FSLR (06:36 am) Mitch King:than the normal deep in the red (06:36 am) Mitch King:consider short in CL soon, watch for it. when it moves that fast in short time, signal usually comes sooner (06:37 am) Mitch's Assist. :watching CAR (06:38 am) JoeyTSA :CRR nice move (06:38 am) Ed :CRTO monitoring for potential long, would like test of 35 area first see how reacts to yesterdays low (06:39 am) Mitch King:still watching TSLA for possible bounce, the lower it goes the better (06:40 am) Qwert :Monitoring FB (06:40 am) JoeyTSA :tighten LNKD if you went long (06:41 am) Mitch's Assist. :watching TRIP (06:41 am) Ed :TWC CNBC's Faber: my expectation is that Liberty/Charter will make another effort to court TWC for a merger with Charter- (06:42 am) Mitch King:using 5range chart (06:42 am) Mitch King:entered 1 contract short on CL at 96.87 even though no sell signal yet (06:42 am) Mitch King:consider reducing or selling SCTY if you went long (06:43 am) Mitch King:sell signal in CL 12-13 (06:43 am) Mitch King:the bounce in TSLA strong, could move higher considering how much selling it has gotten last 5 dfays (06:43 am) Ed :it will be released to public in less than 2 minutes (06:43 am) Ed :Chicago PMI, was released. causing pop (06:45 am) Mitch King:try for best price to sell BIDU if you went long, didnt follow that chart closely after bounce started (06:45 am) Ed :*(US) OCT CHICAGO PURCHASING MANAGER: 65.9 V 55.0E (06:45 am) Ed :highest # since march 2011 (06:46 am) Mitch King:watching CAH (06:46 am) Mitch King:probably more downside on VRX (06:48 am) Mitch King:watching TTS for bottom to buy (06:49 am) Ed :I would like for selling to pickup GRMN (06:49 am) Mitch King:monitoring HSH (06:49 am) Ed :GRMN will monitor for potential long @near 45ish level (06:50 am) Mitch King:watching CAVM for top to short, no hurry (06:50 am) Mitch King:watching GTI (06:54 am) Mitch King:CL just starting to move, don't expect CL to go all the way back down, just let target 1 fill, then adjust last contract (06:54 am) JoeyTSA :nice pullback on indices after that pop on the report (06:56 am) Ed :PRLB starting to monitor alos for potential long (06:56 am) Mitch King:ok when CL drops this fast in short time, ok to cover manually some of short postiion (06:56 am) Ed :wait to time ur longs with bottom/bounce in SPY (06:56 am) Mitch King:remember i have a 1 min chart to left of the 5 range chart on CL, for overall look . CL is cycling perfectly for Thunder (06:57 am) Mitch King:AVP still trending down (06:57 am) Ed :would like test @near 70ish level on PRLB (07:00 am) Mitch King:that was a 50 tick drop from signal (07:00 am) Mitch King:ok consider covering contract on CL soon (07:01 am) Mitch King:some of you might be tempted to reverse and go long, its better to wait it out. you already booked good profits so far on 2 or 3 trades so far. why not just let the system work and present a buy signal later, maybe 10-15 min. just a thought (07:02 am) JoeyTSA :tighten FB if short (07:04 am) Ed :i reduced 3/4 of PRLB long (07:06 am) Ed :trailing last 1/4 of PRLB long (07:06 am) JoeyTSA :eye on LNKD again (07:07 am) JoeyTSA :nat gas # in about 20min, in downtrend overall (07:11 am) JoeyTSA :eye on SFUN, lower vol so far (07:12 am) Ed :all out PRLB long (07:13 am) Ed's assistant :Monitoring GOGO (07:23 am) Mitch King:buy signal on CL here (07:23 am) Mitch King:the purple dash line is leveling out at a high level indicating CL is strong. may not have a green buy zone, possible. (07:24 am) JoeyTSA :nat gas in 5min, price trying to hold S2 (07:25 am) JoeyTSA :eye o n CAVM (07:30 am) Ed :10:30 *(US) WEEKLY EIA NATURAL GAS INVENTORIES: +38 BCF VS. +35-40 BCF EXPECTED RANGE ( - (07:31 am) Mitch King:yes qwert, that last pullback to 96.34 was the entry long, i filled there additional contract (07:31 am) Mitch King:it s still valid to buy on that last pullback last 3 candles long in CL. the re (07:37 am) Ed :SPY new lod (08:13 am) Murano :watching OCN (08:16 am) Mitch King:CL weakening, blue level, purple on low side, i tend to wait for a little rebound to sell long position into if long. (08:17 am) JoeyTSA :IDCC nice move (08:36 am) Murano :watching SBUX at R1 (08:37 am) JoeyTSA :eye on YELP (08:38 am) JoeyTSA :nice bounce on indices off that lod area (08:40 am) Mitch King:not a good time to make any new trades (08:42 am) Ed :keep eye on NTAP for vol. getting some news (08:43 am) Mitch King:not good time to enter CL trades in either long or short (08:44 am) Mitch King:this is stupid trades territory (08:44 am) Mitch King:i mean as far as opening new positions not advisable; we need to wait for setup. (08:45 am) Mitch King:90% of trading is waiting (08:45 am) Mitch King:not saying any of you are stupid, just saying we humans do stupid trades when we are bored waiting. THis is when we hang on to our profits (08:46 am) Mitch King:my comments are referring to CL using THunder (08:46 am) JoeyTSA :tighten YELP if short (08:51 am) JoeyTSA :IOC spike (08:51 am) Ed :IOC getting some buying (09:10 am) Murano :watching MW (09:12 am) Ed :JOSB getting some selling (09:13 am) Ed :MW JOSB willing to consider raising bid for the company (09:14 am) Ed :you just see Ackerman news, he willl unveil presentation on HLF (09:17 am) Ed :12:16 HLF Ackman set to unveil new information on the company next month - CNBC - (09:31 am) Mitch King:about an hour ago when i saw lines meandering in white zone, i think thats good time to go exercise while waiting for setup (09:32 am) Murano :watching BYD (09:32 am) Mitch King:HLF at low of day (10:34 am) JoeyTSA :PRLB another move (10:47 am) JoeyTSA :APD on nice move (10:53 am) JoeyTSA :tighten PRLB on that bounce back to recent dbl top (11:03 am) Mitch King:we are in that last 30 minute whacko time with CL (11:10 am) JoeyTSA :PRLB over $84 now (11:12 am) JoeyTSA :CRR has been a monster today too (11:16 am) JoeyTSA :some buying coming in on the indices (11:18 am) Ed :SPY new hod (11:30 am) JoeyTSA :tighten CRR if long (11:36 am) JoeyTSA :FB getting some volume down (11:54 am) Ed :CTRX starting to get interesting (11:55 am) Ed :thats on CTRX (11:55 am) Ed :thought we would get tad more selling (12:00 pm) JoeyTSA :/ES pullback to 1760 (12:05 pm) JoeyTSA :tighten FB near $50 (12:06 pm) JoeyTSA :VOD spike (12:59 pm) Ed :have great eve traders (05:47 am) electrader :good point Joey (05:47 am) JoeyTSA :one and done..back to bed or whatever (05:48 am) Qwert :this thunder system is looking good (05:52 am) JoeyTSA :AVP gap down also (05:58 am) Mitch King:you getting the hang of thunder qwert? still looking for bounce in this green but purple dash line pegged on bottom (05:58 am) Qwert :Mitch with /CL pit opening in 3 mins do you reccomend being out of a position? (05:58 am) Mitch King:hi alan? how is it going? (05:59 am) Mitch King:yeah qwert, often times the pit opens with same directional movement the premarket made but dont expect big spike down, hard to tell though (05:59 am) Qwert :yes mitch i like it already up over 85 tics today :)) (05:59 am) Mitch King:nice, is that per contract or cumulative profit? (05:59 am) Qwert :cumulative (05:59 am) JoeyTSA :beautiful start qwert (05:59 am) Mitch King:nice (05:59 am) Mitch King:ok so you taking me to dinner when i come to LA next? (06:00 am) Mitch King:hehe (06:00 am) Qwert :yes where ever you want to go (06:00 am) Mitch King:i ate a buffalo wild wings for first time when i was there in May, was very good (06:00 am) Mitch King:pit open in CL (06:00 am) Mitch King:had buy signal 2 seconds after open (06:04 am) JoeyTSA :big drop from that ah pop (06:05 am) regatta :AVP down (06:07 am) JoeyTSA :/CL has a bit of res up here, push thru can really get it running (06:08 am) JoeyTSA :S1 and 200ma in same area (06:08 am) Murano :good morning (06:09 am) JoeyTSA :just want to wish everyone a safe halloween tonight (06:09 am) Qwert :thx joey you too (06:11 am) Mitch King:you long qwert CL? or anyone? (06:11 am) Qwert :yes i am (06:11 am) Mitch King:CL making higher highs last 12 min (06:11 am) taco :i was just 1 contract tho and sold (06:12 am) Qwert :i have 1 left had 2 to start (06:12 am) taco :nice, im more comfortable with more in sim :) (06:12 am) JoeyTSA :good job, push thru 97.40 can send it moving (06:12 am) JoeyTSA :96.40 i mean (06:12 am) Qwert :thats what im hoping for joey (06:13 am) JoeyTSA :that are was some conflicit on the drop, S! and 200ma converging there now, looks to be pushing now (06:14 am) Mitch King:alan you long CL on this last buy signal or short earlier? (06:14 am) Mitch King:or klas, electr, taco? (06:14 am) Mitch King:rd? (06:14 am) taco :not at moment mitch (06:15 am) skydiver :gm all (06:15 am) klas :long 9614 (06:15 am) Qwert :nice entry klas (06:15 am) Mitch King:nice klas, did you have a profit target? 1 or 2 or 3 contracts? sim? (06:15 am) taco :nice klas (06:15 am) skydiver :nice catch on /CL klas (06:15 am) klas :double bottom at 96.06 (06:16 am) klas :hit 1 and 3 (06:16 am) Mitch King:ok your target2 is how many ticks? sounds big (06:17 am) electrader :How much emphasis do you place on the 200 sma as resistance in CL here Mitch? (06:17 am) electrader :K (06:18 am) Mitch King:still use your own common sense, if you have hunch electr or instinct to reduce at 200 on the 5r chart, go ahead, (06:19 am) Mitch King:my guess is it moves higher high but be flexible (06:19 am) Qwert :my second tgt got filled on /CL :) (06:19 am) Mitch King:right qwert, good job (06:19 am) electrader :Gotcha. Already filled my target. Just waiting for next trade (06:20 am) Mitch King:you can move up your target by sliding it up the chart when three lines are pointing up sharply, especially when purple dash line is this strong (06:20 am) Mitch King:and of course you can slide your stop line up the chart too (06:20 am) electrader :Trying to follow the King Rules. Trading 1 Contract . Don't let it run (06:21 am) klas :Mitch i have been managing my exits (06:21 am) Mitch King:good job guys. sounds like all the repetition in training worked well in workshop (06:21 am) JoeyTSA :great trading everyone (06:21 am) Qwert :yeah i probably should have if you were trailing the stop about how manty tics would you suggest (06:22 am) Mitch King:i just know that method of training works well, military, athletic coaches all proven that (06:22 am) Mitch King:are you asking me something qwert? (06:22 am) electrader :really appreciate all the support in this room. You guys are great! (06:23 am) Mitch King:so klas you have 2 remaining unfilled contracts? consider reducing another 1 (06:23 am) Qwert :yes sorry that question was for you mitch regarding trailing stop on ?cl (06:23 am) rd :good morning to all (06:23 am) klas :just did as you were typing (06:23 am) Mitch King:i manually adjust the "runner" contract, the 3rd one (06:24 am) klas :1 left trailing (06:24 am) Mitch King:nice klas (06:24 am) Mitch King:skydiver, did you get this last long? (06:24 am) skydiver :yes (06:24 am) Mitch King:hey rd, did you go long on this last long? (06:24 am) skydiver :only doing one contract for now (06:25 am) klas :Eye on the three amigos (06:25 am) Mitch King:sky, what was entry and exits, # contracts, prices, etc? (06:25 am) Mitch King:three lines lowering the slope of its inincline (06:25 am) Ed :hey taco same formation we spoke of yesterday, got it in premarkt also on FB (06:26 am) Mitch King:incline. so it is suggesting a possible topping, early to conclude anything yet but you can now watch the price area more compared to the indicator panel (06:26 am) skydiver :96.26 - still in /CL long (06:26 am) taco :right ed (06:26 am) Mitch King:does that make sense? (06:26 am) Mitch King:one contract sky? (06:26 am) skydiver :yes (06:26 am) taco :thanks (06:26 am) Mitch King:entry price? post all at once, easier for me (06:27 am) skydiver :getting used to the system . . will do thd 3 once I get hang of the system :) (06:27 am) Mitch King:my read on this is probably good to close (06:27 am) Mitch King:good to close soon, pick best price, plus you will be busy on stocks in 2 minutes from now (06:27 am) bill1 :I caught CL at 96.18 1 contract (06:27 am) taco :great coaching mitch (06:27 am) Mitch King:nice bill1, Bill is from Canada, BC (06:28 am) JoeyTSA :good one bill1 (06:28 am) skydiver :closed /CL one contract at 96.43 (06:28 am) Mitch King:keep repeating this process Bill, build habits, and good thoughts (06:28 am) skydiver :virtual however for now (06:28 am) electrader :Good trades Sky, Bill (06:28 am) taco :great sky, bill (06:28 am) bill1 :thankyou Mitch (06:29 am) skydiver :sure a different ball game in the feel on /CL compared to my micro stock trades :) (06:29 am) Mitch King:stocks open in 90 seconds, perfect timing to let new setup in CL later, this is not the time to do any "stupid trades" (06:29 am) taco :1min to open (06:29 am) skydiver :sounds good Mitch (06:29 am) Mitch King:you guys are not stupid, i mean the stupid trades we do when we get bored (06:29 am) skydiver :yes that's me :) (06:29 am) taco :lol (06:29 am) JoeyTSA :been there too many times (06:30 am) Mitch King:best practices in trading is when we keep reminding ourselves what is best (06:33 am) Mitch King:nice job on your trailer on CL guys, good job (06:34 am) regatta :watching NSR (06:35 am) JoeyTSA :another decent pop on /CL (06:35 am) JoeyTSA :/CL pp just under $97 (06:36 am) skydiver :thnx Mitch for info (06:39 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX strong bounce , watch this $320 level (06:40 am) JoeyTSA :LNKD still has some upside (06:40 am) JoeyTSA :careful on the spread on LNKD (06:41 am) JoeyTSA :yeah qwert, FB great so far (06:42 am) regatta :FB been good (06:42 am) skydiver :thanks for TSLA Mitch (06:43 am) JoeyTSA :came out early (06:43 am) JoeyTSA :hate when they do that (06:43 am) regatta :still watching NSR (06:43 am) skydiver :out 3/4 on TSLA long (06:44 am) JoeyTSA :good one sky (06:44 am) skydiver ::) (06:44 am) skydiver :I shorted /CL at 96.93 - virtual (no emotions) (06:45 am) JoeyTSA :big beat (06:45 am) JoeyTSA :santelli doesnt believe that # ? (06:45 am) JoeyTSA :i think thats what he siad (06:46 am) bill1 :out of CL @ 96.75 (06:47 am) skydiver :all out of TSLA long (06:47 am) regatta :EL moving (06:47 am) Ed :nice trading sky (06:48 am) skydiver :thnx Ed . . .good teachers :) (06:51 am) Mitch King:nice job bill1, do you think you can repeat this process? yes or yes (06:52 am) bill1 :Yes (06:57 am) JoeyTSA :/CL pp has been great area, even premarket (06:58 am) skydiver :good to know - thnx joey (07:00 am) skydiver :Thunder is amazing - (07:00 am) JoeyTSA :no prob sky, i like them for targets, ninja's seem decent (07:00 am) skydiver ::) (07:02 am) skydiver :good thinking process for us Mitch . . thanks again :) (07:02 am) JoeyTSA :thx Mitch, good plan (07:02 am) electrader :Thunder is saying to wait. Could be more downside (07:02 am) Qwert :waiting for the green zone (07:03 am) skydiver :/CL at S1 - not sure if that means anything, but there you go (07:03 am) JoeyTSA :sky: is your S1 @ 96.37 ? (07:03 am) taco :right qwert (07:03 am) skydiver :no - shows 96.27 - using 5R (07:04 am) JoeyTSA :oh ok (07:04 am) Mitch King:we have had a 75 tick drop from the top so if you do go long, fairly good odds, even if no buy signal, realize you are buying a counter trend trade and safer to do a quick long scalp, not expecting big bounce (07:04 am) Mitch King:reply if that makes sense (07:04 am) skydiver :yes (07:04 am) JoeyTSA :y (07:04 am) taco :yes (07:04 am) taco :dont expect as much as last few trades (07:04 am) electrader :yes (07:05 am) Qwert :yes (07:05 am) Mitch King:im saying if you take a quick scalp long, i wouldnt hold it for too long, maybe 5-10 ticks but again, it gets exhausitng and confuses your overall view (07:06 am) Mitch King:i find its easier to wait, and not take the stress of doing a 5-10 tick counter trend trade long, (07:06 am) JoeyTSA :good one Ed (07:06 am) skydiver :nice Ed on PRLB long (07:06 am) Ed :thx. u guys know what i look for as price approaches areas i mention (07:07 am) Ed :guys that went to seminar (07:07 am) JoeyTSA :forgot all about QCOR today, 2 nice moves (07:07 am) Mitch King:remember what i pounded in your heads for 3 days, its usually better to wait for longer for a setup instead of quick scalps here and there. you need clear fresh view to get these bigger moves than quick scalps here and there (07:08 am) Mitch King:all three lines pointing down, dots on blue line, still in white zone, what does that tell you? (07:08 am) Qwert :dont go long (07:08 am) taco :still downtred (07:08 am) skydiver :stay away from trade for now (07:08 am) Mitch King:we are getting a flattening out in the purple dash line but thats earlier indication. still says to me to wait longer, you agree? (07:08 am) skydiver :yes (07:08 am) taco :yes (07:08 am) Qwert :yes (07:09 am) electrader :yes (07:09 am) Mitch King:see now 2-3 trades like this can make yoru whole day (07:09 am) skydiver ::) (07:09 am) JoeyTSA :or whole week (07:09 am) taco :agree (07:09 am) electrader :Yep. 3 for 3 this a.m. (07:09 am) JoeyTSA :those are great moves (07:10 am) skydiver :got to remember that each point is $10 - right? (07:10 am) taco :purple dotted isn't going to bottom (07:10 am) JoeyTSA :yep (07:10 am) regatta :watching GOGO, low vol (07:10 am) Qwert :each tic sky (07:10 am) skydiver :nice indeed - ok (07:10 am) JoeyTSA :so like Mitch says, you dont have to go crazy with overtrading (07:10 am) skydiver :gotcha (07:11 am) skydiver :Ed - thanks for telling us your story about over trading . . . I needed that :) (07:11 am) JoeyTSA :just let your account build and then you can just make larger position trades once funded properly (07:11 am) skydiver :gotcha joey (07:11 am) taco :ya ed, record holder (07:11 am) Mitch King:not trying to change your style sky but isnt this easier method, lifestyle in trading? best to get this method down in CL, microtrading CL is tough business, (07:11 am) skydiver :agreed Mitch :) (07:12 am) Ed :yea sky when u slow things down u can see setups coming. When ur trading a ton, u miss qaulity setups (07:12 am) JoeyTSA :agree Mitch, micro trading easier on /ES, /YM than on /CL (07:12 am) electrader :Quality of trade instead of qty. Right Joey? (07:12 am) JoeyTSA :not saying that as a recommendation, just what i have noticed (07:12 am) skydiver :thanks Ed . . . the teaching at the seminar was awesome for me :) thanks again :) :) (07:12 am) JoeyTSA :yeah elec (07:13 am) Ed :enjoyed it sky (07:13 am) Mitch King:i dont even have a green zone yet on 5 range chart, nor on 1 min, quick break time for me, thats 2 big moves (07:13 am) Mitch King:hey guys, what is Joeseph's screen name? (07:14 am) skydiver :not sure I know Mitch (07:18 am) Mitch King:beauty on PRLB eddie money (07:18 am) taco :did you take GRMN ed? (07:21 am) JoeyTSA :PRLB monster call, see what a good nights sleep will do for you Ed :) (07:26 am) Mitch King:hello cheung, are you working the Thunder system this morning? its been very good, as good as it gets (07:29 am) Ed :thx (07:29 am) Ed :agreed joey (07:29 am) Ed :good nights rest (07:29 am) JoeyTSA :i missed that 1st short opp (07:30 am) Mitch King:did anyone remember i talked briefly about the ABC setup? that might have been the last final review TUesday (07:30 am) Qwert :yes i remember mitch (07:31 am) Qwert :thats what this /CL looks like correct? (07:31 am) JoeyTSA :break time, great calls today, see you in 20 (07:31 am) skydiver :take care joey and enjoy (07:48 am) skydiver :Been a good day and thanks for help on /CL trading etc. Hope to be back last hour . . make lots of $$$ :) (07:48 am) taco :cya sky (07:48 am) Qwert :bye sky (07:48 am) klas :later sky (07:58 am) Qwert :anyone else long on /CL (07:59 am) taco :in sim yes (07:59 am) electrader :Nope. Just watching (07:59 am) taco :bought early than signal (08:00 am) alan3 :Qwert got the long on Cl. (08:00 am) klas :yes Quert 96.22 (08:01 am) klas :Blue line turning up (08:01 am) taco :you buy in consolidation klas? (08:01 am) Qwert :nice its working good (08:01 am) klas :yes (08:02 am) taco :nice, had good support (08:02 am) taco :reasonable anyways (08:03 am) Qwert :lightning gave a buy signal at 96.21 and thuinder at 96.26 (08:03 am) Qwert :on the 5R chart (08:04 am) Mitch King:rigth qwert, the lightning gives a better price and earlier on entry but Thunder gives bigger profit potential usually (08:04 am) Mitch King:with lower risk (08:04 am) klas :yes taco and that support (08:04 am) Qwert :so would you nibble on the lightning signal and then add on thunder mitch? (08:05 am) Mitch King:the principle is still the same to buy deep into the green on lightnign signals, purple signals are slightly bettter than the orange buy signals, rarely see the cyan blue on Lightning (08:06 am) Qwert :okay thanks (08:10 am) JoeyTSA :just watching OSK, $46 held a few times, looks a bit weak now (08:13 am) Murano :looking for move up on OCN (08:15 am) Murano :out 3/4 OCN (08:15 am) Murano :stop at 59.10 on last 1/4 (08:22 am) Murano :stopped last 1/4 OCN (08:44 am) taco :right mitch (08:44 am) Qwert :just meandering (08:45 am) taco :qwert, you got some good trades today, starting w that first nice short (08:50 am) Ed :FB was nice trader today, even with premarkt call by joey (08:50 am) taco :ed, did you trade GRMN? (08:50 am) Ed :no (08:50 am) Ed :wanted cloer test of 45 level (08:50 am) Ed :closer (08:51 am) taco :ok (08:51 am) Qwert :yeah really good start to the day :)) (08:51 am) taco :) (08:51 am) Ed :was looking at that one same time as PRLB and PRLB gave better r/r (08:52 am) JoeyTSA :smart trading Ed (08:54 am) JoeyTSA :im out for now, back for last 2 hours (08:54 am) Qwert :cya joey (08:54 am) taco :cya joey, dont get lost (08:54 am) klas :later joey (08:54 am) JoeyTSA :haha, just walking downstairs to the gym (08:54 am) JoeyTSA :dont want to give back any profits (09:02 am) Ed :hey gum how is ur day going? (09:04 am) Qwert :Go FSU that will wake him up Ed (09:06 am) Qwert :NQ has made a heck of a bounce off those lows of a few days ago (09:08 am) Ed :lol (09:08 am) Ed :ur right qwert (09:09 am) Qwert :cant imagine holding that overnight tho probably would not have been able to sleep to good (09:09 am) Ed :agreed (09:10 am) taco :mr muddy waters covering some shares maybe (09:10 am) Qwert :missed FFIV short nice setup (09:11 am) Qwert :just realized charts up in the room wow need coffee (09:13 am) Murano :covered 3/4 MW (09:14 am) Murano :covered 3/4 SBUX (09:19 am) Murano :lunch time back in 20 (09:21 am) regatta :watching IRE (09:22 am) regatta :low vol (09:25 am) Qwert :monitoring the solar stocks (09:41 am) regatta :murano, you still watching BYD? (09:42 am) Murano :yes regatta, long from 10.49 tight stop (09:42 am) regatta :i'm 10.53 (09:43 am) Murano :moved stop to break even (09:44 am) Qwert :same here long from 10.49 (09:44 am) Ed :nice entry dave, regatta, murano (09:45 am) Qwert :thx Ed (09:46 am) Qwert :i took off 3/4 already at .72 now just holding the rest (09:46 am) regatta :tkx ed, just closed at 10.69 (09:47 am) Murano :out 3/4 BYD (09:47 am) Qwert :nice Murano what was your tgt on BYD (09:47 am) Murano :stop at 10.59 last 1/4 BYD (09:48 am) Murano :looking for 11 qwert (09:48 am) Qwert :nice (09:49 am) Murano :will let the last 1/4 run or get stopped on BYD (09:49 am) Murano :BYD missed on earnings (09:50 am) Murano :got stopped on my last 1/4 of MW and SBUX (09:51 am) Murano :moving stop to 10.72 last 1/4 BYD (09:53 am) regatta :thx for BYD murano (09:54 am) Ed :thx for BYD/MW (09:54 am) Murano :if BYD gets past 11 it should get to 11.20/11.30 area (09:55 am) Qwert :Great call Murano thx (09:55 am) Murano :thanks (10:00 am) Qwert :stop on BYD last part at .79 (10:02 am) JoeyTSA :/CL climbing (10:03 am) JoeyTSA :nice push off both S2 and then S1 (10:07 am) Murano :covered last 1/4 BYD (10:08 am) jnps999 :thx (10:09 am) Murano :should have taken the long on MW instead of making lunch (10:13 am) Qwert :anyone trade that last /CL long? (10:14 am) taco :just scalped the short (10:14 am) taco :missed entry on long but obviously had time.. (10:15 am) taco :u qwert? (10:15 am) Qwert :no just watched was waiting for retest around 96 (10:15 am) taco :ya in hindsight was good entry (10:16 am) Qwert :didnt want to mess up :) (10:16 am) taco :) (10:16 am) Qwert :was in the white zone (10:16 am) taco :took /GC long tho in sim (10:16 am) taco :beauty thunder set (10:17 am) Qwert :probably not to risky tho after 30 tic drop in 3 mins (10:17 am) taco :ya i agree (10:18 am) Qwert :could have put stop just under 96 would like to know what the master thinks (10:19 am) Qwert :cant wait till the weekend to really study this :)) (10:19 am) taco :looks like after coming out of that chop, was what it needed for resurgence (10:19 am) Qwert :agree (10:19 am) taco :cerate the edge (10:19 am) taco :this is so great, im very excited and encouraged (10:20 am) Qwert :me too (10:20 am) taco :still need lots of work tho and study (10:20 am) Qwert :feel like a kid with a new toy (10:20 am) taco :) (10:24 am) taco :this could be more long term uptrend /CL (10:24 am) regatta :watching NQ on pullback (10:34 am) Murano :PRLB made a good recovery from early drop (10:41 am) JoeyTSA :eye on QCOR (10:48 am) Mitch King:remember what we said, there is a lot of time to get into a long even if a green buy zone turned into a white zone. Keith said that 21.3 ticks onthe avg were available after it turned into white zone. Keith is electrader (10:49 am) Mitch King:thats when i said we miss the big picture by passing on a trade because we didnt fill a limit order. i missed a couple on MOnday, Phillip missed 1 or 2 on limit orders and then the big move was just starting (10:50 am) Qwert :What about if you are getting the buy signals before a green zone appears? (10:50 am) Mitch King:liek the one we saw around 918am paific time? (10:50 am) Qwert :yes (10:51 am) Mitch King:i was telling one of my daughters, Megan, who was there at workshop, i told her this morning that was a good one because it had dropped around 40 ticks real fast. CL already had been dropping for well over an hour (10:52 am) Mitch King:the odds shift toward you in that case (10:52 am) Qwert :okay i was thinking the same thing but wanted your confirmation i was looking for a retest but taco and i both thought it was probably valid (10:53 am) Qwert :im short now so loving this thunder you have made an amazing tool (10:53 am) Mitch King:when you study this weekend, hopefully for lot of hours, you will find the best signals, many many signals are good when it took quite a while for price to "work itself out" (10:54 am) taco :right, signals after no trade zones (10:54 am) electrader :Where'd you short it at Qwert? (10:54 am) Mitch King:i used that term in the workshop, i dont know if that was a very good explanation but thats how i picture it. good signals, turning points in these big cycles, usually, take a lot of time to work itself out. (10:54 am) Qwert :im keeping track of how long the green and pink zones are lasting (10:55 am) JoeyTSA :interesting idea qwert, i like that (10:55 am) Qwert :elec entry at 96.74 (10:55 am) electrader :So you took it right about the sell signal (10:55 am) JoeyTSA :funny, 96.74 is where my darvis box top is right now (10:55 am) Qwert :yes put order in as soon as the signal printed (10:56 am) electrader :Great entry Qwert. I was waiting for more confirmation on the downturn of the Thunder indicators (10:56 am) Mitch King:today we didnt have much green in the buy zones. purple dash line stayed high, blue nad red lines didnt peg down to the bottom, so it tells us that selling isnt as strong. (10:56 am) JoeyTSA :Lightning 242 gave blue/cyan sell at 96.83 (10:57 am) Mitch King:you guys can copy the user chat and the moderator chat by right clicking in the gray scroll bar area and copy, then paste to any word document or wordpad, or notepad and save document (10:57 am) Qwert :5R gave a sell signal at .82 as well joey (10:58 am) Qwert :thx mitch been taking notes all day (10:58 am) JoeyTSA :very good, indis had pointed down also (11:01 am) Mitch King:im going right to work on Thunder vers 2 today. goal is 6 weeks but usually it takes longer than goal. let me work up that email to send you workshop attendees for homework assignment before next Thursdays webinar review. i'll send out within the hour (11:02 am) Qwert :thx Mitch (11:02 am) taco :good stuff (11:02 am) Mitch King:im glad you are liking it. i was loving it on the backtest studies. (11:03 am) electrader :thx Mitch. Really looking forward to the homework. Really builds my confidence (11:03 am) JoeyTSA :this game is all about confidence (11:04 am) Qwert :I have only had i stop out today and it would not have hit if iwouldnt have moved the stop on my own (11:04 am) Mitch King:yeah agree joey. i told them i could give them the best tool but if they didnt trust it or believe in it, then they wont do well with it (11:04 am) electrader :I am understanding that more and more every day Joey (11:05 am) JoeyTSA :the biggest stumbling block is the block between our ears (11:05 am) Qwert :hahaha (11:05 am) taco :yup (11:05 am) Mitch King:all 5" of it causes so much problems (11:05 am) Qwert :for sure (11:05 am) electrader :Agree! (11:05 am) Mitch King:or could be easier than kindergarten if used correctly (11:06 am) taco :nice bounce ?CL (11:06 am) JoeyTSA :even now, i hate when my first trade is a losing one, just aggrevates me (11:06 am) Mitch King:when i disappear in last half of trading day, i go into software development mode and shut everything else off because I have to concentrate during that time (11:06 am) Qwert :same here joey (11:07 am) JoeyTSA :always a much better day when the first one is a good one (11:07 am) JoeyTSA :like your /CL trade qwert (11:07 am) Mitch King:yeah qwerts first short around 530am pacific? yeah thatwas a beauty and then we all jumped on that big long, and then the short after (11:08 am) JoeyTSA :but confidence also builds as you see setups as Ed mentioned yesterday (11:08 am) Qwert :exactly start the day with confidence and trading on free money (11:08 am) electrader :So long guys. Good day. 3 wins 1 loss see all tomorrow (11:08 am) JoeyTSA :right and then you can risk a little to make more (11:08 am) JoeyTSA :great job elec (11:08 am) taco :cya elec (11:08 am) Qwert :bye elec (11:09 am) Mitch King:the ONLY way to build confidence is follow a system and procedures. and consistently do what you have been doing. just repeat that electrader, bill, alan, taco, qwert, etc. (11:09 am) JoeyTSA :not sure what wrecks confidence more, have a 1st trade be a loser, or being up a good amount and giving it all back (11:09 am) Qwert :i have done both to many times joey (11:09 am) taco :will do mitch (11:09 am) JoeyTSA :we all have (11:09 am) taco :ya both pretty effective joey :) (11:11 am) taco :i was thinking this dip would be a 15, 20 tick bounce (11:16 am) JoeyTSA :/ES pushed about 3pts, /YM about 20+ (11:18 am) Murano :CRR earning expected at .82 came in at 1.31 per share (11:24 am) Mitch King:im done trading CL, going to work on that homework assignment for you and then email you within hour. (11:24 am) taco :ok thx mitch (11:25 am) JoeyTSA :enjoy Mitch (11:26 am) JoeyTSA :anyone catch HAR ? (11:26 am) Qwert :thx Mitch (11:31 am) JoeyTSA :CRR has wide spread so be careful (11:37 am) Ed :FB has like 200million traded so far (11:37 am) JoeyTSA :yeah absolutely nuts (12:00 pm) Qwert :Ed did you trade CTRX (12:00 pm) Ed :yes (12:01 pm) Ed :only got .39 (12:01 pm) Ed :i stopped breakevn last 1/4 (12:01 pm) taco :long ro short? (12:01 pm) Ed :long, did not play short was talking (12:01 pm) Ed :LOL (12:01 pm) taco :haha (12:02 pm) Qwert :was wondering just walked back in perfect world 1.50 so 1/2= 75 cents (12:03 pm) Ed :right qwert (12:03 pm) Qwert :the short below 49.46 was nice breakdown (12:04 pm) Ed :my stop was less than .31 (12:04 pm) Ed :so figured put on trade (12:05 pm) Qwert :nice so looking at the daily would you have taken that short below .46 with it so close to potential support at 49 ? (12:05 pm) taco :your stop was just under 48 ed? (12:06 pm) Ed :yea reason i passed on that short qwert, now looking at chart (12:07 pm) Qwert :okay thanks i am learning love you r teaching (12:07 pm) Ed :im glad someone does LOL (12:07 pm) JoeyTSA ::) (12:08 pm) Ed :i played it tight taco 48.03 (12:08 pm) taco :gotcha (12:11 pm) Mitch King:REMINDER: Don't play Thunder in extended hours trading. not worth the stress, save your energy for tomorrow regular hours (12:12 pm) Mitch King:i think tomorrow is going to be similar to today's CL trading, which is good. probably oriented toward the long side (12:13 pm) Qwert :okay thx for the reminder is it okay to use it in the am prior to 6am pst mitch? (12:13 pm) Mitch King:yes, works starting aroudn 5am pacific (12:13 pm) Qwert :sweet (12:13 pm) Mitch King:vol picks up at 530am too (12:14 pm) JoeyTSA :nice (12:14 pm) JoeyTSA :sometimes get a move between 4-5am pdt too (12:14 pm) JoeyTSA :just too early for me (12:15 pm) bill1 :Can't Wait :) (12:16 pm) Qwert :see you all in the am have to go run some errands loving thunder and some great stock calls today (12:16 pm) taco :cya qwert, nice going today (12:16 pm) JoeyTSA :enjoy qwert (12:16 pm) Qwert :bye taco (12:16 pm) Ed :c ya qwert (12:16 pm) Qwert :bye Ed (12:17 pm) Murano :see you qwert and taco (12:17 pm) JoeyTSA :bye taco (12:18 pm) Ed :c ya taco (12:19 pm) taco :im still here guys :) (12:19 pm) Ed :o sorry (12:19 pm) taco :lol (12:19 pm) Murano :sorry taco (12:20 pm) JoeyTSA :welcome back taco haha (12:20 pm) Murano :but we are happy you are here (12:20 pm) taco :) (12:20 pm) taco :im happy to be here too (12:20 pm) JoeyTSA :hope you are feeling better, you had a cold you mentioned (12:20 pm) taco :ya head cold (12:21 pm) taco :ear was going to burst on the two decents in plane (12:21 pm) JoeyTSA :ouch (12:21 pm) taco :might pretend it lasts longer so my wife doesn't think i can hear her haha (12:22 pm) JoeyTSA ::) (12:24 pm) bill1 :Can someone tell me how to turn on buy/sell console that sits on right hand side of chart in Ninja Trader. Mine has gone away and i'm new with this software. Sorry. :( (12:25 pm) JoeyTSA :do you mean chart traders? (12:25 pm) taco :do you see an arrow pointing down in top right corner? (12:25 pm) bill1 :Yes but my arrow is gone too. (12:25 pm) taco :ok np (12:25 pm) JoeyTSA :is your chart trader turned on? (12:25 pm) taco :its the icon two to the right of the cross hair icon on top of chart (12:26 pm) Ed :see if this help, watch chart in room bill1 (12:26 pm) taco :magnifying glass then chart trader icon (12:26 pm) Ed :u see that bill1 (12:27 pm) bill1 :Yesssss!! Thanks guys (12:27 pm) Ed :no problem (12:27 pm) JoeyTSA :and when all else fails you can have a dom up too (12:28 pm) bill1 :Forex Factory news says an Israeli Plane did a strike on Syrian military base (12:28 pm) taco :ninja trader support is really good too (12:28 pm) taco :even for quick questions (12:28 pm) bill1 :Thanks, appreciate the help (12:37 pm) JoeyTSA :THanks Mitch,Ed,Diosna,Murano,Qwert (12:37 pm) Ed :c ya joey (12:37 pm) JoeyTSA :fun day of trading, enjoy your Halloween, see you tomorrow :) (12:37 pm) taco :cya joey (12:44 pm) Murano :see you Joey (12:58 pm) taco :thanks everyone cya in the am (12:59 pm) bill1 :Was a fun day for me. Thanks and ciao
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