Chat Highlights From 10/20/2011

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:14 am] Mitch : this drop in the SPY is caused by a Reuter news wire 12 minutes ago that they are considering delaying the EU summit scheduled for this weekend
[06:14 am] Mitch : Private Gomer Pile: Surprise, surprise, surprise.
[06:15 am] Mitch : I've been saying over and over and over the last 10 days that this is far from over, the bailout of Greece, the contagion of Italy, Portugal, Spain. I've been pounding the table in the Daily Stock Report that there isn't enough money to go around for even 2 of those countries let alone 4.
[06:16 am] Mitch : And I've said getting 17 people in a room and asking them to agree on pitching in money in a pool to help someone else who has been irresponsible with their money, besides the fact it threatens those 17 countries who aren't in as much financial trouble
[06:17 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:18 am] Kris : APKT, ILMN, ANV, WDC and WYNN as possible shorts
[06:18 am] Kris : Today I'm watching HSY, AGN, BBBY, CBST, KMP, TZOO and PLCM as possible longs.
[06:18 am] Mitch : The 17 people (countries) are likely to say what Rod Tidwell said (Cuba Gooding, Jr.) to Jerry Maguire, "I don't want to be friends no more"
[06:18 am] Mitch : THis market is going down, for days, trending down most likely
[06:27 am] Kris : 2 Minutes. Time to Rock! Let's have another awesome day.
[06:28 am] Kris : Stay focused and keep your emotions in check
[06:30 am] Kris : ANV short
[06:30 am] Kris : GMCR short
[06:30 am] Kris : WYNN short
[06:31 am] Kris : BRCM short
[06:31 am] Kris : out half WYNN short
[06:32 am] Kris : NVLS short
[06:32 am] Kris : out half GMCR short
[06:33 am] Kris : NVDA short half
[06:33 am] Mitch : try for 26.10+ area on CAKE short
[06:33 am] Mitch : watching for short in CAKE
[06:34 am] Kris : JNPR short half
[06:34 am] Kris : out another 1/4 WYNN short
[06:34 am] Mitch : watching for bottom in LVS, let it drop a lot
[06:35 am] Kris : breaking support
[06:35 am] Kris : out another 1/4 GMCR short
[06:35 am] Kris : out half JNPR short
[06:35 am] Kris : SPY new lod
[06:36 am] Kris : APKT short half
[06:36 am] Mitch : looking for short with RVBD after, repeat AFTER a rebound
[06:36 am] Mitch : LVS should bounce too
[06:36 am] Mitch : WYNN turning up
[06:38 am] Kris : SPY new lows
[06:39 am] Kris : ARUN short half
[06:41 am] Kris : GMCR still looking weak
[06:41 am] Kris : looking for new lod in WYNN
[06:41 am] Mitch : no good on casinos here, too much selling pressure for bounce
[06:42 am] Kris : SPY weak bounce, hanging out around support
[06:42 am] Mitch : more downside in DECK
[06:42 am] Mitch : watching for short in FNF
[06:43 am] Kris : LULU short half
[06:44 am] Kris : maybe a quick hitter trvlntrdr but I don't like F-Word stocks so I'll be on the short side of that one.
[06:44 am] Mitch : watching for short on WDC
[06:46 am] Mitch : watching for short in BX
[06:47 am] Mitch : WDC toppy
[06:48 am] Mitch : watching for short on top of LULU bounce
[06:48 am] Mitch : WYNN turning over, close if long
[06:49 am] Kris : GMCR new lows
[06:49 am] Kris : SPY starting to slow
[06:49 am] Mitch : monitor CELG
[06:49 am] Mitch : watching for short in NTCT
[06:50 am] Kris : APKT short second half
[06:50 am] Kris : ARUN short second half
[06:50 am] Mitch : watching for top in RVBD for short, soon
[06:51 am] Kris : NVDA looking weak so far
[06:51 am] Mitch : CELG turning over
[06:51 am] Mitch : little late on ATI & try for 38.50+
[06:51 am] Mitch : watching for short in ATI
[06:52 am] Kris : ARUN coming down to test the lod
[06:52 am] Mitch : looking for short on top of bounce of GTLS
[06:53 am] Kris : a lululow
[06:53 am] Kris : looking for new lod in LULU
[06:53 am] Kris : SPY coming down, see if we can test lod support
[06:54 am] Mitch : like to short XLNX above 30.75+
[06:55 am] Kris : out all GMCR short
[06:55 am] Kris : out half ARUN short
[06:56 am] Mitch : GMCR interesting LONG swing trade at this price
[06:56 am] Mitch : GMCR swing trade requires big change in your mindset than scalping
[06:58 am] Kris : see what kind of bounce we get here in the SPY
[07:00 am] Kris : here we go
[07:00 am] Kris : philly fed and existing home sales coming out
[07:00 am] Mitch : FOSL bouncing
[07:00 am] Mitch : trying for low 86
[07:02 am] Mitch : leading economic indicators positive
[07:02 am] Mitch : that's what the spike is
[07:05 am] Mitch : looking at DECK for potential short on top of rebound
[07:06 am] Mitch : consider covering most of ATI short, soon
[07:06 am] Mitch : lost interest in WDC short
[07:07 am] Mitch : watching TSCO for short, 2nd helping (missed first)
[07:08 am] Mitch : looking for short in FOSL bounce
[07:10 am] Kris : IDCC ALERT
[07:10 am] Kris : IDCC BUYOUT RUMOR
[07:11 am] Kris : sorry joey, I didn't see your post.
[07:11 am] Kris : thanks broseph
[07:12 am] Kris : SPY coming up into triple top resistance
[07:12 am] Mitch : IDCC expert level trade
[07:14 am] Kris : SPY new hod
[07:15 am] Kris : sweet sassy molassy
[07:16 am] Kris : CRUS has fleas
[07:18 am] Kris : see those higher lows
[07:18 am] Kris : that's your cue
[07:18 am] Kris : you should be out EYES
[07:18 am] Mitch : consider covering IDCC here if you shorted
[07:19 am] Kris : SPY coming into trendline support
[07:19 am] Mitch : CELG, consider reducing short by 1/3rd
[07:19 am] Mitch : consider covering NTCT here 15.55 area
[07:19 am] Mitch : consider covering XLNX short
[07:19 am] Mitch : watching for DECk short soon
[07:20 am] Mitch : hope you guys got out of TSCO short around 70, making new highs soon
[07:30 am] Kris : nat gas numbers out
[07:31 am] Kris : NFLX negative comments coming out
[07:35 am] Kris : weak bounce in the SPY, look for a breakdown into the lod soon.
[07:38 am] Kris : PANL weak bounce off the lows, looking weak
[07:38 am] Mitch : watching IR for bottom
[07:40 am] Kris : no thanks on PLCM with this price action boomboom. I think we have another day to 2 down and the we might find a tradeable bottom.
[07:40 am] Mitch : also monitor SCSS for short as well
[07:40 am] Mitch : monitor CELG for 2nd helping shorts later, 55.55+ area
[07:44 am] Kris : PENN ALERT
[07:44 am] Kris : thanks rusty
[07:45 am] Mitch : watching PENN for bounce
[07:46 am] Mitch : IR weak bounce, very weak
[07:47 am] Kris : if you're short PANL, look to take some profit here.
[07:47 am] Mitch : you guys know not to jump in the idea we just post. you have to watch those indicators before you buy
[07:50 am] Mitch : watching KMI for short
[07:51 am] Kris : SPY nearing lod support
[07:51 am] Mitch : $28 is possible for IR, might be a little optimistic but possible
[07:52 am] Mitch : $28 is possible for IR, might be a little optimistic but possible note IR is rebounding when indexes selling off same with PENN. Also, with PENN, the scaling is different, much bigger changes is occurring with PENN than the chart looks like, already $1 or 3% off bottom
[07:52 am] Mitch : $28 is possible for IR, might be a little optimistic but possible note IR is rebounding when indexes selling off
[07:55 am] Kris : look for weak stocks to short soon if we get a break
[07:55 am] Kris : watch SPY for a dump below 120.70
[07:56 am] Kris : not .70
[07:56 am] Kris : sorry, 120.80 is what I'm watching for SPY break line.
[07:57 am] Mitch : also XLNX, same thing happening
[07:57 am] Mitch : look at that ATI, went all the way back down
[07:58 am] Mitch : deceptive thing about KMI chart is the scaling. drop is only 36 cents or 1.1% drop so far from top
[07:58 am] Mitch : watch for short on top of PENN bounce
[07:59 am] Kris : PENN turning over
[07:59 am] Kris : SPY new lod
[08:01 am] Kris : accelerating volume and price to the downside on the spy
[08:01 am] Kris : starting to watch TNA for a long reversal soon
[08:02 am] Mitch : consider covering KMI if short, 28.50 area
[08:02 am] Mitch : watch SPY, S&P 500 index etf
[08:03 am] Kris : would like to see SPY come down into 120 area before looking to the longs
[08:05 am] Kris : come on baby, come on down
[08:05 am] Kris : credit suise defending PENN
[08:12 am] Kris : don't' get greedy with the TNA longs
[08:12 am] Kris : not acting very strong on this bounce so far
[08:12 am] Kris : she bounce a little early from more solid support levels
[08:12 am] Kris : take your profit and protect your entry
[08:12 am] Kris : we could break to new lows
[08:12 am] Mitch : i''d venture to guess we see 112-114 on the SPY within 2 weeks.
[08:12 am] Mitch : My strong belief is that we will be seeing stocks sell off quite substantially the next 4-7 trading days. That overall selling pressure should be strong and shorts are clearly going to be favored to profit over longs. Look at the daily charts, way over bought, look at the SPY daily chart
[08:15 am] Mitch : you guys get that short PENN
[08:16 am] Kris : longs don't trying to hold it, not sure they have the mustard
[08:16 am] Kris : SPY fighting lod
[08:16 am] Mitch : ?
[08:16 am] Mitch : bounces won't be as strong off the bottom and shorting the tops of the bounces have been working and should continue to be very good next few days to probably a week or more
[08:17 am] Kris : SPY new lod
[08:42 am] Kris : also near overhead trendline resistance from the past 2 highs
[08:42 am] Kris : SPY starting to slow and come back into trendline support
[08:49 am] Kris : SPY breaking trendline support
[08:56 am] Kris : SPY new lod
[09:01 am] Mitch : if anyone took advice on the GMCR as swing trade long . . . it's not a bad idea to take profits today and try to look for lower prices next couple of days. This is a big move from 63 area to 72 in same day
[09:19 am] Kris : SPY new lod
[10:01 am] Mitch : could have a quickie short on DECK
[10:01 am] Mitch : maybe 60 cents on DECK short to $1
[10:05 am] Mitch : this time of day, this is all i can find, little scalps 1/2% to 1% potential profits
[10:06 am] Mitch : you can consider them profits that go in your bucket but you have to be alert to execute properly. has to be precise. if you are tired, brain fried, bad attitude, low blood sugar, forget them
[10:08 am] Mitch : could get another short in DECK again, another 60 cents,
[10:08 am] Mitch : GMCR probably heads back down 2-3 more points because that rebound from 63 to 72 area was a big move,
[10:09 am] Mitch : another small profit would be a short in CELG
[10:09 am] Mitch : no, never mind, CELG, not enough profit potential
[10:33 am] Kris : SPY consolidating under resistance levels here, if it holds it could make a nice move over hod resistance
[10:45 am] Kris : fwiw
[10:45 am] Kris : I am out of my TZA swing trade
[10:46 am] Kris : watch for a new hod breakout in the SPY soon
[11:39 am] Kris : SPY new hod
[11:53 am] Kris : break time. be back in 30.
[12:26 pm] Kris : I'm back
[01:01 pm] Kris : good night everyone. see you tomorrow morning.
[06:13 am] jewels : Anybody feeling like we are still going to have a down day on the market?
[06:13 am] joeytsa : home sales,philly fed at 10am est
[06:13 am] joeytsa : lots of report today also...unemployment up a bit
[06:14 am] anthonyb : I hoping for it Jewels
[06:14 am] joeytsa : on daily i use 20/50/200 with same inidis
[06:14 am] joeytsa : on the minute charts i use 5/15, stochs,macd,vol
[06:14 am] mikewd2 -: I'm betting on it with TZA
[06:16 am] joeytsa : gap up:TZOO,RVBD,CBST,ALXN,BWLD,TSCO,FFIV,
[06:17 am] joeytsa : gap down: PLCM,WYNN,CRUS,EBAY,BIDU,CTSH,
[06:19 am] boomboom : That TZA long swing is looking pretty delicious right now
[06:19 am] joeytsa : I think the Euro is doomed
[06:23 am] doji : Anyone taking TZA in the pre-market? Just curious
[06:23 am] joeytsa : PA gov signed a takeover bill for Harrisburg..they have big money probs
[06:23 am] shark : Ghadaffi MIGHT be dead -CNBC
[06:25 am] mikewd2 -: added to my TZA L 38.4 premarket
[06:28 am] blakesax : YHOO looking strong relative to market
[06:28 am] skydiver : Talk is Microsoft still trying to buyout YHOO
[06:30 am] mikewd2 -: i have 120 2.5 LEAPS on nok
[06:31 am] joeytsa : ABT running
[06:32 am] joeytsa : out WYNN
[06:32 am] mikewd2 -: WLT short
[06:37 am] boomboom : beautiful on GMCR short
[06:38 am] mikewd2 -: out half WLT
[06:40 am] joeytsa : Great call on CAKE Mitch !!
[06:41 am] joeytsa : GMCR was a beauty :)
[06:42 am] doji : wdc
[06:42 am] joeytsa : AAPL lod
[06:42 am] scalpman : All out of CAKE.
[06:43 am] joeytsa : FOSL looked a little weak on that bounce
[06:43 am] trvlntrdr : kris, what do you think of 3 min fade in GMCR?
[06:44 am] joeytsa : BWLD looked weak on that bounce also
[06:46 am] anthonyb : AMLN
[06:46 am] anthonyb : missed TZOO long
[06:46 am] joeytsa : ABT trying to close gap
[06:46 am] joeytsa : AGU running, might set a short
[06:46 am] junior : CROX running
[06:47 am] doji : WDC very strong
[06:47 am] skydiver : MOS running up
[06:47 am] trvlntrdr : ok thanks Kris I didn't realize that was an issue-- didn't see the news when I looked for it yest.
[06:49 am] doji : FSLR
[06:49 am] eyes-inthenow : Kris stop on lulu
[06:49 am] joeytsa : GMCR..the gift that keeps on giving
[06:49 am] joeytsa : LVS lod
[06:49 am] shark : AAPL -short at 400 level!
[06:51 am] joeytsa : stopped out on GMCR
[06:51 am] taco : even if rvbd has new hod?
[06:52 am] joeytsa : s CELG 66.70
[06:53 am] joeytsa : BAX lod
[06:53 am] joeytsa : BWLD shot up
[06:54 am] joeytsa : ANF lod
[06:54 am] joeytsa : stopped at be on CELG..oh well
[06:55 am] apple : K - GMCr was a clear winner -- thx
[06:55 am] joeytsa : look for more later kris :)
[06:55 am] shark : CAKE fight!
[06:56 am] joeytsa : a few reports coming up soon...watch your positions
[06:56 am] joeytsa : you mean i actually have to BUY GMCR :)
[06:57 am] doji : TZA lookig great
[06:58 am] anthonyb : RVBD
[06:58 am] doji : FSLR too strong to Short
[06:58 am] doji : same as WDC
[06:58 am] skydiver : L GMCR 65.01
[06:59 am] apple : joey - and you would have to hold it longer than a few hours...
[06:59 am] mikewd2 -: L GMCR 65.05
[07:00 am] apple : L GMCR 64.93
[07:00 am] joeytsa : should set up a nice buy price for those swinging it
[07:00 am] joeytsa : TZA nice drop
[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: that's not good
[07:01 am] joeytsa : TSCO jumped too [07:00 am] skydiver : go GMCR!
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: adding to my TZA
[07:02 am] doji : L/S battle in the street
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: added TZA L 39.05
[07:03 am] joeytsa : AEM lod
[07:03 am] joeytsa : i don't believe it, but i will play it that way
[07:04 am] joeytsa : TZA moving up again
[07:05 am] joeytsa : CAT doing ok after that initial drop
[07:05 am] shark : AAPL shortable under $400 - double top
[07:06 am] joeytsa : die Ipad die :)
[07:06 am] mbear : Kris - were you stopped out of LULU?
[07:06 am] shark : correction - on the day
[07:06 am] shark : on daily
[07:07 am] rusty : if it sets up correctly
[07:07 am] rusty : OPTT kind of thin but worth watching
[07:07 am] rusty : OPTT radar - possible early bullshort play setting up
[07:07 am] shark : who would have known that CNBC biz reporters would get sent into RIOT zones!
[07:09 am] joeytsa : ESI dive-bombing
[07:09 am] joeytsa : IDCC spike up
[07:10 am] doji : SPY moving, higher low
[07:10 am] joeytsa : looking for another short of GS on weakness
[07:10 am] shark : SPY trending up, lower highs...
[07:11 am] mikewd2 -: wow IDCC on a run
[07:11 am] pow : rvbd breakout
[07:12 am] boomboom : IDDCC...gorgeous, Kris, thank you
[07:12 am] mikewd2 -: there's the profit taking
[07:12 am] scalpman : Out 3/4 TNA L
[07:12 am] shark : SPY DIA hod
[07:13 am] joeytsa : out IDCC long
[07:13 am] joeytsa : short IDCC, only risking 50cents
[07:14 am] joeytsa : out half IDCC
[07:14 am] joeytsa : stop moved to 48
[07:14 am] mikewd2 -: unless it blows thru your stop!
[07:14 am] scalpman : All out TNA L....
[07:15 am] joeytsa : trailing down
[07:15 am] mikewd2 -: gotta luv those buyout rumors
[07:15 am] skydiver : moving stop down on IDCC
[07:15 am] skydiver : my favorite - buyout rumors
[07:15 am] skydiver : S IDCC 49.05
[07:16 am] joeytsa : stopped out :)
[07:16 am] mikewd2 -: GMCR very nice bounce off the lows
[07:17 am] eyes-inthenow : Stop on APKT KRis
[07:19 am] anthonyb : CLB
[07:20 am] rusty : APKT takeover rumors
[07:21 am] anthonyb : TZOO approaching lod
[07:22 am] joeytsa : tighten stop on GMCR
[07:23 am] joeytsa : stopped out 40cents :)...will be looking for more later
[07:25 am] joeytsa : DLTR has been a nicely trending stock..daily
[07:25 am] rusty : GMCR RSI = 20
[07:26 am] joeytsa : AEM a dog lod
[07:26 am] joeytsa : UNP strong today
[07:27 am] anthonyb : If it wasn't for that piece of crap GMCR I'd be 100%
[07:27 am] anthonyb : What an awesome day
[07:27 am] joeytsa : thanks Rusty...i stopped using rsi, might have to add that back in
[07:28 am] skydiver : still in the green though :)
[07:28 am] skydiver : Was doing well, but got side tracked with IDCC trade - forgot I had a trade in TSCO
[07:29 am] joeytsa : PANL lod, looks weak today
[07:30 am] joeytsa : IDCC consolidating
[07:30 am] Mitch : happens frequently skydiver
[07:31 am] joeytsa : is GMCR really setting up again? [07:31 am] joeytsa : IDCC broke down at the moment
[07:32 am] skydiver : GMCR looks tempting - but . . .
[07:33 am] anthonyb : look at RVBD falling
[07:33 am] shark : GREAT! die, NFLX!
[07:34 am] ronfrac : rvbd pss bottoming
[07:34 am] shark : GMCR 45% off highs - reaching 50% retracement
[07:34 am] shark : I'd rather make $$ too!
[07:36 am] joeytsa : RVBD had a decent quarter
[07:37 am] joeytsa : yeah pow, nice recovery
[07:37 am] pow : wYNN HOD
[07:38 am] joeytsa : it's a 50% retracement from the prev cl
[07:39 am] boomboom : Kris/Mitch..what do ya think of PLCM long here?
[07:40 am] boomboom : I heard that, joey, thanks
[07:40 am] joeytsa : boom: they had to adjust #'s, net rev below..just be careful
[07:40 am] pow : 2nd helping wynn
[07:41 am] anthonyb : do you mean 65.55? Mitch? CELG
[07:41 am] anthonyb : I think 66.55
[07:41 am] boomboom : Thanks, you two :)
[07:41 am] joeytsa : agreed Kris
[07:41 am] joeytsa : looks like 125 is temp resistance on WYNN..perfect 50%
[07:43 am] lightning : has Brent been off the last few days?
[07:44 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[07:44 am] rusty : PENN ALERT
[07:44 am] rusty : PENN ALERT
[07:46 am] joeytsa : copper down 8% this week?
[07:46 am] monster : like IR
[07:47 am] anthonyb : moved my stop on CELG short to 66.31
[07:47 am] rusty : PENN see 4Q Rev 671M
[07:47 am] shark : SPY at close of yesterday
[07:47 am] skydiver : WLL - Rumors
[07:48 am] joeytsa : does anyone else feel that some of these news feeds are just to play with the markets?
[07:48 am] joeytsa : one hour is " EU won't reach a decision"
[07:48 am] rusty : yes
[07:49 am] scalpman : IR L @ 27.04 avg
[07:50 am] anthonyb : great price scalpman
[07:50 am] doji : L 35.84
[07:50 am] doji : PENN
[07:50 am] doji : You beat me by 5 cents mike!
[07:50 am] mikewd2 -: PENN L 35.79
[07:50 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[07:50 am] scalpman : Out 1/3 IR
[07:51 am] doji : It must be the 10,000 miles from Rio to whatever the TDA server is!
[07:51 am] pow : all out of wynn short
[07:52 am] boomboom : Upsy daisy, PENN
[07:52 am] mikewd2 -: out half PENN
[07:53 am] doji : Come on PENN I know you can give 26.9666566673
[07:53 am] mikewd2 -: that's my target also doji: lol
[07:54 am] doji : Filled on PENN, told you Mike
[07:54 am] scalpman : Out another 1/3 IR
[07:55 am] scalpman : Stopped in the green on the last 1/3...
[07:56 am] anthonyb : KMI looks ripe to pick
[07:58 am] anthonyb : out long PENN chickened out
[07:58 am] mikewd2 -: all out PENN, very nice guys
[07:58 am] neuronx : IDCC 2nd shrt
[07:58 am] rusty : SODA worth watching for swingtrade
[07:59 am] eyes-inthenow : Mitch Where would you enter KMi
[08:01 am] jewels : I'll take the CELG love all day long
[08:01 am] ronfrac : PENN in 36.12 out 37.02. THX Mitch
[08:01 am] scalpman : All out TZA
[08:01 am] scalpman : TZA L @ 39.71
[08:04 am] anthonyb : how about reversing the CELG short right in here?
[08:04 am] boomboom : Oh EBAY..why couldn't I get shares of you to short. :(
[08:05 am] anthonyb : I am all out of my short. Big gains ;)
[08:05 am] jewels : that's what I'm thinking too anthony
[08:06 am] anthonyb : I think good idea now
[08:06 am] jewels : but watching it on the 5 min chart looks like possibly more downside
[08:06 am] jewels : I'm going to hold it for a bit and watch
[08:07 am] anthonyb : I'll just watch
[08:08 am] doji : L TNA 38.04
[08:08 am] neuronx : KWK
[08:08 am] pow : 1/2 position tna
[08:09 am] mikewd2 -: don't like tna
[08:11 am] neuronx : KWK 7.50 supp
[08:12 am] doji : Out TZA 38.3
[08:12 am] doji : TNA sorry
[08:12 am] sonorant : thanks Mitch -- it is really helpful to have an example of when something isn't "acting right"
[08:13 am] mikewd2 -: Mitch: if markets are going to sell off - should we take profits on GMCR then and wait on swing?
[08:13 am] mikewd2 -: up 3.20 on GMCR
[08:13 am] scalpman : Not Playing TNA...just watching now...
[08:13 am] scalpman : Out TNA and Reversed and out...
[08:14 am] mhaus : GMCR L@63.40
[08:14 am] shark : nice mhaus, nice!
[08:15 am] mikewd2 -: although it is going in opposite direction with today's markets
[08:15 am] mikewd2 -: so mhaus, are you swinging this? and does a big market selloff change your plans?
[08:15 am] Mitch : well mike, GMCR came down from $95 to $63 in 4 trading days, plus is off its high of $115+ 3 weeks before
[08:16 am] bandit : i did great short thank you
[08:16 am] boomboom : Nope on PENN
[08:16 am] mhaus : my sell is at 69
[08:16 am] mikewd2 -: no shares on PENN
[08:16 am] sonorant : (well and Mitch too)
[08:16 am] sonorant : Sorry -- I should have said thanks Kris!!
[08:18 am] shark : VIX up 5.7% today - hod
[08:19 am] mikewd2 -: continues to bounce off
[08:19 am] mikewd2 -: GMCR bouncing off lower trend line
[08:19 am] scalpman : TZA L 40.50
[08:20 am] scalpman : Out TZA small profit...
[08:21 am] mikewd2 -: keep it a couple bucks below current price?
[08:21 am] mikewd2 -: so on a swing like GMCR - in 65.05 should i continue to move up stop during the swing?
[08:21 am] shark : I would, mikewd2
[08:21 am] shark : if you have a 1% stop, you can loosen it to 1.2% and so on as you have more profit margin
[08:22 am] mikewd2 -: but it most likely will get stopped. thought our swing stops were a lot more
[08:22 am] mikewd2 -: i was at 3% on entry
[08:22 am] shark : depends on the volatility of the stock
[08:23 am] Kris : % stops don't work as well for me on swing trades
[08:23 am] Kris : it will vary on the trade
[08:23 am] Kris : regarding the best spot to be in
[08:23 am] Kris : use past S/R levels mike
[08:23 am] mikewd2 -: ok, need to review webinar again and see what the plan should be
[08:23 am] shark : I hear you Kris, just using as a quick reference.
[08:23 am] shark : it also depends on your portfolio position size as well
[08:23 am] shark : that's fine
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: it's at 100 day lows
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: ok, so go back 6-8 months for support/resistance on GMCR
[08:24 am] rusty : swings = smaller positions, wider stops in general
[08:24 am] shark : also avoid round numbers, consider moving averages, etc...
[08:25 am] joeytsa : that's what i try to do rusty...position sizing based on where i set my stop loss, while only risking 3%
[08:25 am] Kris : you swinging that short mike?
[08:25 am] mikewd2 -: Kris, I'm long on GMCR
[08:25 am] mikewd2 -: swing that long on GMCR
[08:26 am] Kris : 1/4? 1/2?
[08:26 am] Kris : how big a position do you have mike?
[08:26 am] Kris : oh
[08:26 am] mikewd2 -: 300 shares
[08:26 am] mikewd2 -: per Mitch's call this morning to start looking at GMCR long
[08:26 am] shark : ran out of sellers, mikewd2. Shorts happy to buy and close for big $$$
[08:27 am] Kris : ok
[08:27 am] Kris : use the 15 minute chart, you still have upside momentum, hold your 1/4 and see if it can pull back on the next 15 minute cycle down, look for a higher low and then add another 1/4 there.
[08:27 am] mhaus : I am all out
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: 1/4
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: I'm certainly willing to take the profit if i'm wrong
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: yep, it's almost retraced to open
[08:27 am] shark : 10% move off bottom GMCR
[08:28 am] jewels : All out CELG
[08:28 am] Kris : before adding
[08:28 am] Kris : different mindset on this so you want to start slow and make sure you have the new trend in place
[08:28 am] mhaus : Done for the day. Got to go now. May join in later. If not, talk to you all tomorrow. Have a wonderful day.
[08:28 am] mikewd2 -: perfect, understand
[08:28 am] mikewd2 -: yesterday's close rather
[08:28 am] shark : GMCR moving into resistance at yesterday's close, volume good
[08:29 am] Kris : have a good one mhaus
[08:29 am] mikewd2 -: thanks Kris for the info
[08:30 am] Kris : what's your entry mike?
[08:31 am] Kris : well done
[08:31 am] Kris : you're in a good spot
[08:31 am] mikewd2 -: 65.05
[08:31 am] mikewd2 -: good follower
[08:31 am] mikewd2 -: Mitch's call
[08:31 am] mikewd2 -: up 4 so far
[08:32 am] Kris : you actually could have your stop near BE, I would be just under 65.00
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: ok, i just moved it to BE had it lower from entry
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: like we do during a 3min fade
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: so Kris, still confused on adding to GMCR. I'm looking for a pull back and then rebound?
[08:35 am] shark : GMCR
[08:35 am] shark : little pull back here at resistance (yesterday's close)
[08:38 am] mikewd2 -: 69.93
[08:38 am] mikewd2 -: not sure if i did it right, but i added to GMCR
[08:38 am] shark : broke thru resistance on big volume, very good mikewd2
[08:39 am] joeytsa : i have a "position size calculator"..tells me how many shares to buy according to my risk and stop level..kind of cool
[08:39 am] lightning : watching CIEN for possible short
[08:39 am] shark : next upside target, is the 200 day MA at 74.ish
[08:41 am] boomboom : Wish I'd have held my GMCR w/ ya, Mike. Great patience and bravery on your part
[08:42 am] boomboom : I thought I was getting a steal selling at $67
[08:42 am] doji : GMCR is a big runner today
[08:42 am] mikewd2 -: I usually make a swing into a day if it jumps big
[08:42 am] mikewd2 -: wanted to play a swing the way Mitch and team would. Haven't done that before
[08:43 am] boomboom : Swinging scares the bojangles outta me these days, but would've been a good one as you're proving ;)
[08:43 am] joeytsa : yeah boom: my swing trading has been reduced
[08:43 am] Kris : basically you can day trade some of these and just take home a small piece before the close
[08:43 am] Kris : yeah mike, if it make a big run smart to take day trade profits and keep a smaller piece for a pullback to add it again.
[08:43 am] shark : volume staying strong GMCR
[08:44 am] boomboom : Well, holler if you see another like it, Kris ;p
[08:44 am] joeytsa : kris: would you do options for reduced $ exposure?
[08:44 am] Kris : to lock in the gap up gains possible on the swing.
[08:44 am] mikewd2 -: thanks will do - makes me feel a little better doing that
[08:45 am] joeytsa : GMCR has weeklys
[08:46 am] joeytsa : cool, like GMCR, daytrade with stocks, but swing it with options
[08:46 am] Kris : I'm testing that out joey, working on a new system like we talked about
[08:47 am] joeytsa : I'm also testing that out with a combination of your breakaway trades and new high/new lows...
[08:47 am] lightning : OVTI spiking
[08:47 am] mikewd2 -: i've thought about doing that joey, but haven't yet.
[08:48 am] boomboom : Holy cow PLCM..new hod
[08:48 am] joeytsa : buy options on the 1st breakout, then go more in on the pullback
[08:48 am] mikewd2 -: OVTI that was quick
[08:48 am] scalpman : S GMCR @ 71.55
[08:49 am] joeytsa : if it runs with no pullback, add options for lower $ risk once again
[08:49 am] mikewd2 -: dang near got the high, sold half GMCR 71.75
[08:50 am] joeytsa : great job mike
[08:50 am] mikewd2 -: may buy back at the trend line
[08:51 am] joeytsa : getting those tops/bottoms is tough, just give me the meat in the middle of the sandwich :)
[08:51 am] joeytsa : gotya
[08:51 am] joeytsa : shark..nice job
[08:51 am] mikewd2 -: need to look into that next time
[08:51 am] scalpman : OUt 3/5 GMCR
[08:51 am] shark : 10 $65 GMCR calls at lod =appx 2800 now worth $7000
[08:51 am] shark : just an example, did not get this
[08:52 am] joeytsa : $2800 vs $65,000
[08:52 am] joeytsa : catch most of the profit
[08:52 am] shark : and as fast as it could drop....2800 max risk or you could take fewer contracts too
[08:52 am] shark : easier sometimes than risking 65,000 short
[08:52 am] shark : exactly!
[08:53 am] joeytsa : if stock drops, delta lowers, so you lose less
[08:53 am] joeytsa : reduced risk on the downside
[08:53 am] joeytsa : that's why i like on swings to go deep itm, delta 80....
[08:53 am] joeytsa : you get most of the upside...
[08:53 am] pow : TYP short
[08:53 am] pow : You should consider TYP 3X tech
[08:53 am] shark : deep itm on swings good too for certain types of trades
[08:54 am] joeytsa : 2-3 strike prices in, try to get close to 75-80 delta
[08:54 am] joeytsa : i do that when swing trading
[08:55 am] apple : agree
[08:55 am] joeytsa : i was writing for a swing of a few days to 2 weeks
[08:55 am] joeytsa : yes
[08:55 am] pow : WYNN breaking lower
[08:55 am] shark : for 1-2 day bounce or move, I prefer ATM, or 1-2 strike OTM for lower total initial investment in case it goes wrong
[08:56 am] mikewd2 -: TZA hod
[08:56 am] shark : man your stations everyone!
[08:56 am] shark : SPY lod
[08:57 am] mbear : Mitch, Kris - what do you think about a short of RIO below 47?
[08:57 am] scalpman : Out another 1/5 on GMCR
[08:57 am] shark : GMCR peaked out as market turned down -
[08:58 am] mikewd2 -: GMCR near trend line support
[08:59 am] doji : See you later guys... have a meeting to attend, will come back for the last hour
[08:59 am] joeytsa : GMCR at prev cl
[08:59 am] joeytsa : indis in oversold
[08:59 am] scalpman : GMCR
[08:59 am] scalpman : Stop in the green at 70.01
[09:02 am] apple : thx, MK, will take some profit today
[09:02 am] scalpman : Still have a piece of GMCR S
[09:02 am] shark : stick like glue around yesterday's close: GMCR
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: as it broke the trend line
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: out GMCR
[09:03 am] shark : GREAT JOB, mikewd2!
[09:04 am] jewels : Still holding some GMCR short here
[09:04 am] mikewd2 -: +2 on my add, +5'ish on my original entry
[09:04 am] scalpman : All out GMCR S wow...nice one...
[09:06 am] jewels : All out GMCR... round two?
[09:06 am] joeytsa : very nice Mike...great call on that Mitch
[09:06 am] ronfrac : Greek PM said he doesn't expect to reach agreement this weekend.
[09:06 am] rusty : FSLR might interest some of you
[09:06 am] scalpman : I miss the long on GMCR...but got a nice short...
[09:08 am] scalpman : Thanks guys...this is a great service. Love it!
[09:08 am] scalpman : Time to go...had a great day...8 for 8 thanks for excellent calls TSA
[09:09 am] mikewd2 -: what do you see in FSLR, rusty?
[09:09 am] scalpman : Congrats to all who made fine trades. That is inspiring!
[09:10 am] joeytsa : slowly trending lower
[09:10 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, i see that but ...
[09:11 am] anthonyb : does anyone remember what was going on in the news the day of the "flash crash"?
[09:11 am] mikewd2 -: i hope
[09:11 am] mikewd2 -: you still have TZA?
[09:12 am] garyb : I bought TZA this morning buddy...and am enjoying the windfall! :)
[09:12 am] joeytsa : anthony: i think it was greek riots actually, like today
[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: hard not to see the money, but going to hold for a few days per Mitch.
[09:12 am] shark : 9:30am PT on CNBC Herg Greenberg going to TRASH ACCOUNTING of GMCR
[09:12 am] shark : 9:30am PT on CNBC Herg Greenberg going to TRASH ACCOUNTING of GMCR
[09:13 am] candelas : back then we had a lot of gap ups in overnight futures but when markets opened the range was very small, this went on for months, like steady up move with no vol.
[09:13 am] joeytsa : take that TZA money and do a 6horse superfecta box haha
[09:13 am] mikewd2 -: although been day trading some
[09:14 am] jewels : shark, hasn't GMCR been having problems with their accounting?
[09:14 am] joeytsa : 3x4x5x6
[09:14 am] joeytsa : i never box those..just part-wheel
[09:14 am] joeytsa : sounds a little familiar candelas
[09:14 am] mikewd2 -: not like i haven't done that before joey!
[09:14 am] mikewd2 -: yeah a box would be some bucks
[09:15 am] joeytsa : tri's do the part-wheel,
[09:15 am] joeytsa : waste of money
[09:15 am] mikewd2 -: i do alot of tri-box's
[09:15 am] rusty : HBIO radar
[09:15 am] shark : they have, and then they cleared it with independent auditors and NOW STORY IS THAT THEY FAKED THE INVENTORY -with the independent auditors counting wrong
[09:16 am] jewels : I hear that Joey... too much manipulation
[09:16 am] joeytsa : can't trust anything said
[09:16 am] joeytsa : that's why i hate hate hate fundamental analysis..it's all crap
[09:16 am] shark : volume drying up on GMCR
[09:16 am] trvlntrdr : you never know the truth
[09:17 am] jewels : I've been staying away from CNBC during the day. It messes me up.
[09:17 am] joeytsa : all i need to know is displayed on a chart
[09:17 am] joeytsa : when Mitch shows a V pattern forming...all i see is an overreaction to something whether true or not
[09:17 am] shark : good job, jewels: stay with price/volume/indicators
[09:17 am] shark : no doubt joeytsa, trade the price/volume/indicators
[09:17 am] trvlntrdr : the fundamentals matter in the long run but -- you could lose for a long time, and how do you really know the truth any way?
[09:18 am] garyb : Hey Joey, Mike..do you guys have a target for TZA? I'm thinking around 45.
[09:18 am] joeytsa : jewel: CNBC is great because they influence the sheep
[09:18 am] pow : SPY below 120 support
[09:18 am] shark : AAPL testing lod
[09:19 am] joeytsa : gary: i can't predict prices unfortunately
[09:19 am] joeytsa : set a trailing stop, and when it hits...there's my target haha
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: do u have much TZA garyb?
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: not sure probably wait until Mitch says markets should turn around soon.
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: will watch the daily and 15min charts
[09:20 am] garyb : yeh 1k also Mike
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: I'm up to 5k, with 1k still day trade shares.
[09:20 am] shark : AAPL breaking lod, volume increase
[09:21 am] garyb : trying not to go overboard with it as I got stung a few time
[09:21 am] garyb : Yeh...good point Joey.
[09:21 am] joeytsa : mike/gary : if you have your stops set correctly you won't get burned
[09:21 am] mikewd2 -: my avg on the 5k is 37.91
[09:21 am] shark : GOOG testing lod today and yesterday
[09:22 am] joeytsa : FOSL just broke thru some res
[09:22 am] joeytsa : should take any fear away also
[09:22 am] joeytsa : smart mike...just don't risk over a certain % of your total account value...
[09:22 am] mikewd2 -: my stop is positive money - so feel pretty good
[09:23 am] amersaeed : is SPY making an inverted head & shoulder....??
[09:23 am] garyb : the way I see it, people will not want to hold stocks over the weekend because of the European meeting so tomorrow should be another down day.....disclaimer...my own common sense
[09:23 am] joeytsa : doesn't mean you can't use a lot of that account value for the trade though...
[09:23 am] joeytsa : just be smart with risk
[09:23 am] mikewd2 -: well, i did extend that a bit over last two days
[09:23 am] sonorant : what happened to FSLR?
[09:24 am] joeytsa : i use my full position at times, but my risk% tells me how many shares i can buy
[09:24 am] mikewd2 -: dang Rusty was right on FSLR,
[09:25 am] joeytsa : great call Rusty..played follow the leader
[09:25 am] shark : GREAT RESEARCH rustoleum! Love ya bro
[09:25 am] sonorant : yes, I got a nice chunk of it -- way more than I expected to get.
[09:26 am] eyes-inthenow : Kris when importing Stock into Ninja say the Nasdaq where do i Install them mahaus said default i try that and my computer freezes
[09:26 am] mikewd2 -: is GMCR consolidating for another run ?[09:26 am] pow : Mitch, any more long swings other than GMCR?
[09:27 am] rusty : a/k/a "Please sir, may I have some more"
[09:27 am] shark : volume is quiet, maybe after Herb's upcoming story
[09:28 am] joeytsa : pow: I'm waiting for a small pullback in both DLTR and STMP, using daily charts
[09:29 am] jewels : Is it crazy to hope that GMCR could come down to the 66.90 area?
[09:29 am] joeytsa : AEM lod
[09:29 am] joeytsa : WLT trying to make a move
[09:30 am] anthonyb : OK guys, take care see you all tomorrow
[09:30 am] anthonyb : yes shark, GOOD DAY!
[09:30 am] boomboom : This room needs a boost on Investimonials. It should definitely be in the tops.
[09:30 am] jewels : Yes! Investimonials.
[09:30 am] joeytsa : GMCR setting up like a spring?
[09:30 am] rusty : CNBC should be doing GMCR shortly - ALERT
[09:30 am] rusty : Greenberg will pan it no doubt. Get ready to buy a hard dip if seen.
[09:30 am] shark : mmmm...feels like a range bound area
[09:31 am] jewels : Joey, you're looking for upside here on GMCR?
[09:31 am] joeytsa : should be a nice move
[09:31 am] lightning : all covered CIEN -- +1.4%
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: that breaks? joey
[09:32 am] jewels : well said :) [09:31 am] shark : GMCR joeytsa
[09:32 am] joeytsa : and then the possible reverse after
[09:32 am] joeytsa : i know that didn't really help haha
[09:32 am] joeytsa : not looking either way, just the way it goes
[09:32 am] joeytsa : SPY moving higher
[09:33 am] joeytsa : GMCR indis all right in the middle and hovering at prev cl
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: at resistance yes?
[09:34 am] mikewd2 -: TZA broke trend line
[09:36 am] joeytsa : GMCR getting buying
[09:36 am] mikewd2 -: adding TZA 40.42
[09:37 am] jewels : rusty, doesn't bad news mean higher prices these days?
[09:37 am] joeytsa : out 50cents on GMCR
[09:38 am] joeytsa : will short it if it doesn't make a higher high
[09:39 am] apple : only one needs to hear it and the rest will follow...
[09:39 am] joeytsa : going to be patient on this one
[09:39 am] joeytsa : sometimes it takes a minute for all of the sheep to get the news
[09:39 am] shark : kind of weak Greenberg story today.
[09:40 am] joeytsa : haha, but GMCR is looking weak
[09:40 am] joeytsa : then they have to call their brokers
[09:40 am] mikewd2 -: analyst talking down GMCR, starbucks half the multiple twice the company.
[09:41 am] jewels : GMCR looks confused
[09:41 am] joeytsa : that strategy used to work great on nyse stocks back in the day
[09:41 am] shark : dia, AAPL, die
[09:42 am] shark : lower high
[09:43 am] joeytsa : AEM is a dog
[09:43 am] shark : consolidating for higher move
[09:45 am] joeytsa : SINA interesting, making a "W"
[09:47 am] joeytsa : SINA cracking?
[09:47 am] mikewd2 -: garyb: you been playing AGQ
[09:47 am] mikewd2 -: or thinking about it
[09:48 am] joeytsa : AEm ready to break below 43
[09:48 am] joeytsa : GMCR breaking down
[09:49 am] joeytsa : trail it down if you are in
[09:49 am] shark : it was a fake out: GMCR
[09:50 am] joeytsa : stop loss set in profit zone
[09:52 am] mikewd2 -: if it breaks 69 its going down i bet
[09:52 am] shark : AAPL new lod
[09:53 am] sonorant : set at alert on FSLR at lod I don't see any support in the daily
[09:53 am] trvlntrdr : thanks for reminding me about GMCR.
[09:54 am] joeytsa : tight stop on GMCR
[09:55 am] joeytsa : 2 straight gr candles 1min
[09:55 am] shark : APPL trending down nicely
[09:55 am] sonorant : joey, candles -- when something start down (or up) FAST, do you break the rule about limit orders only? It can be really hard to get a fill
[09:56 am] joeytsa : i usually break that rule...shhhh :)
[09:56 am] shark : how have you fills been joeytsa?
[09:56 am] sonorant : I tried to get in to that GMCR down turn ---- no dice. I went in then too late. i would have been better off breaking the rule at the very start.
[09:57 am] joeytsa : stopped out $1.25 [09:57 am] joeytsa : don't trip over pennies while picking up dollars :)
[09:57 am] joeytsa : they get filled haha
[09:57 am] mikewd2 -: i miss a lot of orders, but don't do market very often
[09:57 am] mikewd2 -: i try to go bid plus
[09:58 am] mikewd2 -: etrade pro
[09:58 am] sonorant : mike, that sounds like a reasonable compromise. What platform are you on again?
[09:59 am] garyb : hey mike....saw your question...just got back from Subway....no AGQ here..how about you?
[09:59 am] joeytsa : while i don't recommend market orders, i do use them on fast moving stocks that I really want to get into
[09:59 am] jsn13 : market spiking for what reason?
[09:59 am] mikewd2 -: i just click on the bid price and it adds a set amount to it
[09:59 am] mikewd2 -: not yet, thinking that if market tanks and EU doesn't' settle maybe silver would be good play
[09:59 am] sonorant : oh, there was a question for you back up there a ways -- about quick moving stocks and if you always use a limit order to enter them, or if you give yourself some leeway?
[10:00 am] candelas : based on daily supp/res
[10:00 am] candelas : I place several orders at times
[10:00 am] garyb : Good idea Mike....I will take a look too when I am finished my roasted chicken with southwest sauce
[10:00 am] joeytsa : not a scalp of say 20cents..then i need a tighter window
[10:00 am] joeytsa : sonorant : my market orders are also usually only done on stocks i expect a bigger move in...
[10:00 am] mikewd2 -: AGQ approaching 50
[10:00 am] mikewd2 -: you didn't get us any?
[10:00 am] sonorant : several orders?
[10:01 am] candelas : I sometimes cancel quickly
[10:01 am] candelas : my matrix makes it easy
[10:01 am] garyb : when I sell TZA Mike...my treat!
[10:01 am] joeytsa : will be nice Mitch thanks
[10:01 am] sonorant : do you get your fill on a limit order?
[10:01 am] sonorant : yes, but I mean a stock that just takes off -- you are always getting the long while the rest of us are twiddling our thumbs waiting for the short.
[10:02 am] candelas : i can bump up price, which is a limit but kind of like market
[10:02 am] candelas : ie. price does not exceed x
[10:02 am] candelas : to allow for slippage
[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: for the day trade
[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: i bought more TZA and missed my target by 3 cents
[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: so i'm up to 7k now
[10:02 am] sonorant : bummer mike
[10:02 am] sonorant : so you end up in between the ask and the bid?
[10:03 am] candelas : Kris explains it better than I do
[10:03 am] candelas : takes some getting use too
[10:03 am] garyb : 7k is good....maybe YOU should buy the subs then! lol
[10:03 am] joeytsa : i have that too candelas, just not used to working it out yet
[10:03 am] joeytsa : on slower stocks, limits are easier..same with swings
[10:03 am] sonorant : anyone -- is it possible to increment by one or two on NT? I think that is maybe what I was trying to do when I turned my screen picture upside down. Bad experience. Never went back there.
[10:04 am] candelas : but it works nicely, matrix that is
[10:04 am] garyb : I love the matrix candelas...just learning to use it this week..awesome!
[10:04 am] joeytsa : GMCR with another gimme off of that prv cl res
[10:04 am] mikewd2 -: i will if it goes to 45. looking for 50k profit and i need it
[10:04 am] sonorant : right. more homework. There is a matrix in NT, but I sort of gave up on it. Partly due to lack of screen space -- it is a real hog.
[10:05 am] candelas : it really is
[10:06 am] candelas : beats a snowball on a hot summer day
[10:06 am] candelas : it all adds up Mitch
[10:06 am] candelas : no, do you?
[10:06 am] garyb : makes it so easy to place orders! Do you used the auto trade function they have?
[10:06 am] joeytsa : those are great esp on higher priced stocks
[10:07 am] garyb : just studying it....looks interesting...just wondering how risky it is....
[10:07 am] joeytsa : yeah shark, leaning on the bearish side
[10:07 am] shark : GMCR range bound. Looks like it wants to stay in this trending range
[10:07 am] sonorant : Thanks Mitch. Too slow on first round
[10:08 am] candelas : i like control, so i will stay away from that feature
[10:08 am] joeytsa : yes mitch, lower high on that bounce
[10:09 am] garyb : In theory ed, if it really does work it would be very impressive, take the ALL the emotion out.
[10:09 am] trvlntrdr : what software has the matrix?
[10:10 am] candelas : but guess it could be great other than that
[10:10 am] candelas : guess ur right, I just wonder if u come to depend on it and its down
[10:10 am] shark : VIX mellowing out (pulling back)
[10:12 am] joeytsa : not sure i could ever trust a machine to make buy/sell decisions for me
[10:12 am] shawnt4 : if deck goes to 101.45 I am out
[10:13 am] boomboom : Stopped out of DECK
[10:13 am] shark : CMG reports after hours today
[10:14 am] apple : thx MK, K and everyone. Great trades. Gotta leave early today - everyone have a super evening.
[10:14 am] shark : beat earnings. up 7%
[10:14 am] shark : BWLD in beat up 7% today
[10:18 am] topdogrex : rimm flying
[10:21 am] jsn13 : seriously any news to excite the market?
[10:22 am] candelas : talks of meeting sarkosy/merkel
[10:24 am] sonorant : you know, if things in Europe surprised everyone and actually went well -- or gave the temporary illusion of going well, markets could still go up.
[10:25 am] candelas : Illusion is the key word
[10:25 am] sonorant : yes, so much is smoke and mirrors
[10:26 am] candelas : creates volatility which is great for traders
[10:27 am] joeytsa : volatility + directional bias = $ $ $
[10:28 am] candelas : we even had a volatile summer also
[10:30 am] Kris : now would be a good time to start looking to add to that GMCR swing trade mike
[10:30 am] sonorant : shorting FSLR again, but it is really just tracking the SPY
[10:35 am] derns : Watching NFLX for a run up if the SPY breaks thru this resistance
[10:39 am] trvlntrdr : celg consolidating also
[10:40 am] blakesax : MSFT consolidating as well
[10:40 am] blakesax : rumors as well
[10:42 am] blakesax : SPY needs to hold his head up
[10:45 am] observer : It's worth a lot, Kris. we believe in you
[10:49 am] jewels : C'mon GMCR... do it!
[10:52 am] doji : This market is just nuts... [10:52 am] doji : I am closing my TZA here also guys
[10:52 am] trvlntrdr : buyers need to rev up the engines for takeoff
[10:53 am] doji : Don't worry Gary, better times will come. The key point is not to lose money
[10:53 am] garyb : yeh I'm out too Doji......darn, should have closed it this morning [10:53 am] doji : Even the swings need to be traded as scalps now!
[10:53 am] Kris : I don't know eyes. that question is better for NT support
[10:53 am] Kris : The SPY daily chart was lagging too much for me to hang with the TZA long swing.
[10:54 am] Kris : to me, it's looking like it's coiling up for a move above resistance. could be another day or two. We'll know more by the close today.
[10:58 am] mikewd2 -: dang stepped away for a while, what happened to TZA?
[10:59 am] garyb : tza stop out mike....Kris, doji and I sold
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: my day trades stopped but still have the majority
[11:00 am] garyb : I don't know why the change now either...ruined my too...as I was up quite a bit
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: that ruined a very nice day
[11:01 am] garyb : wow...frustrating
[11:01 am] mikewd2 -: i went down about 12k in TZA
[11:06 am] mikewd2 -: Obama to talk
[11:06 am] mikewd2 -: this should help!!!!
[11:07 am] garyb : however mike...if I look at the longer term charts like 5, 10, 15.....the stochastics are low and starting to point up on TZA
[11:09 am] doji : Do uou use Limit of Market Stops Mike?
[11:09 am] mikewd2 -: difficult days ahead, keep talking Mr. Obama
[11:10 am] doji : or you run the risk of not getting filled if the stock moves very quick
[11:10 am] doji : That is the point, I always use Market Stops
[11:10 am] mikewd2 -: straight limit -
[11:11 am] blakesax : some seller at .90 on MSFT won't let it get through
[11:11 am] doji : If your order is too big you can have stepped market stops
[11:11 am] doji : Ok
[11:11 am] doji : that is the first lesson I learnt with pain
[11:11 am] mikewd2 -: i do market stops, sorry didn't understand
[11:12 am] blakesax : he comes in at .90 and .91 something fierce
[11:12 am] derns : Every time Obama speaks, the market drops
[11:12 am] garyb : Hopefully Obama talks for a few hours! lol
[11:12 am] garyb : Personally I think TZA is on the way up again Mike
[11:12 am] mikewd2 -: dang Obama making me money, might have to vote for him. NOT!
[11:13 am] doji : SPY at support line here
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: i had my day trade stops a bit loose on TZA, so lost a bunch on them.
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: I'm going to take some profit if it does
[11:14 am] blakesax : you almost have to give the 3X ETF's 40 cents or more, they wiggle so much
[11:14 am] doji : Fortunately I had it above break even....
[11:14 am] garyb : good doji
[11:14 am] garyb : My break even is 45 on tza lol
[11:15 am] garyb : That's to make up for all the mess I made in the past few weeks
[11:15 am] mikewd2 -: 45, you're kidding right!
[11:15 am] mikewd2 -: i had 5%, so right at 2 bucks
[11:17 am] jewels : MOS is kind of interesting up here
[11:18 am] mikewd2 -: POT turning over a bit also
[11:19 am] mikewd2 -: I think in this market we need to take profits more quickly and look for new buying.
[11:20 am] garyb : I agree Mike....I was waiting for TZA to go higher,,,now I'm sorry....like Mitch said last week..that market is acting like a 12 year old girl, changing her mind every few seconds
[11:20 am] qwert : by everybody issues again with internet today so just been watching but gonna go to lunch with my sweetie so see ya tomorrow
[11:21 am] mikewd2 -: it was dumb of me not to take some TZA profits up there.
[11:22 am] garyb : Someone once told me it's like you are standing by a fountain and to get the water you have to take quick grabs with your hand cause if you keep your hand in there too long you could lose it.
[11:22 am] joeytsa : old saying mike : If you go for broke...broke you will surely go
[11:22 am] mikewd2 -: getting better on my day trades, half, half or quarters
[11:23 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, unfortunately that has been my style - trying to change a little bit at a time
[11:24 am] lightning : I didn't know Delorean was still a company
[11:26 am] garyb : Candelas...I don't understand in TS which values are the k% &d% in the stochatics? There is just Smoothing Length1 SmoothingLength2 [11:24 am] mikewd2 -: Delorean motor company making an electric delorean $90K
[11:27 am] candelas : when I used them I went with slow stoch
[11:27 am] garyb : and StockLength
[11:28 am] blakesax : greece passed
[11:30 am] candelas : Garyb stoch slow has default of 14 3 3
[11:33 am] boomboom : Think CMG could be giving us a preview of a/h earnings a la WYNN yesterday?
[11:36 am] joeytsa : not sure boom, but i don't like stocks dropping into earnings for buy signals//made a nice 30 point run up recently though
[11:38 am] joeytsa : i do know that the ECRI says that a recession is a done deal
[11:39 am] garyb : Candelas...is that what you use? I want to change it to 10 8 4
[11:39 am] garyb : Sorry...10 8 7
[11:39 am] trvlntrdr : risk on!
[11:40 am] boomboom : Agreed, joey. Not looking good for great earnings for CMG. Wish I had the guts to short it before the announcement, but that's how accts are killed.
[11:40 am] candelas : yes, slow default is 14 3 3
[11:40 am] dmitry : anybody thinking CROX for a swing?
[11:40 am] jewels : Woohoo... run SPY, run!
[11:41 am] joeytsa : i learned to play the run up into earnings and get out b4 the actual announcement
[11:42 am] joeytsa : even better if the company has pre-announced better than expected earnings
[11:44 am] blakesax : finally got mine in MFST...only took 2 hours
[11:44 am] joeytsa : there are a few small earnings things i look for such as..moving the announce date either back or closer...if shareholder meeting and earnings are on same day, possible stock split etc
[11:44 am] mikewd2 -: bottom in TZA?
[11:44 am] trvlntrdr : nflx has a lot of resistance at 111.80
[11:48 am] joeytsa : been doing some reading on the euro problems, i don't see a happy ending over there
[11:49 am] candelas : the quicker they go back to their own currency the better it would be long term
[11:50 am] joeytsa : those banks over there have 1 foot on a patch of ice, the other food on a banana peel
[11:50 am] mikewd2 -: we need a nice 3min fade!
[11:50 am] sonorant : got it to work. It is not fast, but it is way more accurate than grabbing the arrow and moving it.
[11:50 am] sonorant : trvlntrdr -- I am always on sim, but I don't want to ruin my sim performance!! :)
[11:51 am] joeytsa : dexia already needed help, and they aren't in the top 10 largest
[11:51 am] joeytsa : french banks have big-time issues
[11:51 am] lightning : le grande issues
[11:51 am] sonorant : I was thinking about how the Halloween season is a great metaphor for the markets these days -- the players just keep putting on different masks!
[11:52 am] trvlntrdr : I should try more hotkeys-- I have to practice to get faster.
[11:54 am] jewels : joey, are you the one who said last week that you are fundamentally short and technically long the market?
[11:56 am] jewels : I think of that every day when I sit down to work with this market
[11:56 am] joeytsa : but that was last week haha
[11:56 am] joeytsa : longterm bearish, shorterm bullish
[11:57 am] candelas : for traders short term is first 90min in am and long term is after lunch
[11:57 am] jewels : Because I was fundamentally and technically short
[11:57 am] jewels : same here
[11:57 am] joeytsa : actually it kept me out of a lot of the recent up move...too focused on the bearish side
[11:57 am] joeytsa : you have to keep each one in perspective...
[11:58 am] joeytsa : i have troubles buying a stock for a swing when it's in a pronounced downtrend
[11:58 am] trvlntrdr : gmcr really falling
[11:59 am] joeytsa : it's a tricky market to hold onto positions..at least for me
[12:00 pm] jewels : It's tricky to hold longer than 20 minutes these days
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : i do better when they, for example, give me a buy signal AND the stock is trending up...
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : some people know how to take every signal that the indicators give....
[12:01 pm] jewels : I'm trying to be more diligent with working off of higher time frames
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : i then use the sell signal as a time to exit that position as opposed to going short...for the most part
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : might want to put it back down quickly hha
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : yeah sonorant!!!
[12:01 pm] sonorant : gee, I just picked up one share short of GMCR!
[12:02 pm] jewels : I hear that
[12:02 pm] jewels : I lost my mojo on PANL (shorting on news) a few months back and have been treading water ever since.
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : daytrading, swings,longer term holds are all different animals
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : it's always a work in progress jewels
[12:03 pm] jewels : No swings for me in this market. Only intraday trading now.
[12:03 pm] joeytsa : if you are looking at daily charts, you cant expect your move to be made in minutes...so i try to trade the timefram i am looking at
[12:05 pm] joeytsa : but this isn't a perfect world right now
[12:05 pm] joeytsa : in a perfect world i look at market cycle/trend..then strongest sectors outperforming the market, then strongest stocks in those sectors that are outperforming the sector...for swing to longer holds
[12:05 pm] joeytsa : RS charts will show you the best of the best
[12:06 pm] jewels : RS?
[12:06 pm] joeytsa : comparing sector to markets, stocks to sectors, stocks to market etc
[12:06 pm] joeytsa : sorry, Relative Strength
[12:07 pm] joeytsa : again..way too much work for daytrading, but great for swing/holds
[12:08 pm] jewels : Someday I'll go back to that but for now, daytrading only.
[12:08 pm] joeytsa : same here, but i still always look..mainly on the weekends
[12:08 pm] sonorant : Does anyone have any burning questions for NInja Trader? I have someone from there who is going to call me after the market closes.
[12:09 pm] jewels : joey, did you ever do much with DeMark?
[12:09 pm] joeytsa : sonorant : ask them if they will ever link up with Lightspeed
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : i tried a method a few years ago
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : thank you
[12:10 pm] sonorant : Kris, Brent, I was emailed a video from NT showing me how to set up my charts to display both overnight hours trades and have the OHLC be based on normal market hours. Ran in to some problems. Kris -- have you found a way to do it? If I get it to work properly, will share with whoever is interested.
[12:10 pm] sonorant : will do Joey.
[12:11 pm] joeytsa : jewels: you added todays high+low divided by todays close + low blah blah balh haha
[12:11 pm] sonorant : trvlntrdr -- are you on NT? I had forgotten that (If i knew)
[12:11 pm] trvlntrdr : I would like to know also Sonorant, about the OHLC
[12:11 pm] trvlntrdr : Yes
[12:12 pm] jewels : lol... I have it set up pretty sweetly on TOS
[12:12 pm] jewels : no math involved here
[12:12 pm] joeytsa : give me a gap opening and chart
[12:12 pm] joeytsa : too much math
[12:13 pm] jewels : I just don't always have patience but if I do... woohoo
[12:13 pm] joeytsa : show me a V pattern with indi's at extreme levels i'll tell you which way things will go :)
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : jewels: you are much better off with pattern recognition along with mass overreaction anyways
[12:15 pm] jewels : But that IS DeMark, isn't it
[12:15 pm] jewels : patterns... catch the move before everybody else knows what's going on
[12:16 pm] jewels : heck though, I have a LOT to learn
[12:16 pm] joeytsa : true, but i find it easier to just play the pattern once it develops...don't have to guess
[12:17 pm] joeytsa : after hours fire up a 1 yr chart of GS, add a 20,50,200 ma
[12:18 pm] joeytsa : i wouldn't buy any of the "buy signals" because it was in a downtrend...
[12:19 pm] garyb : Mike...what did you end up doing with your TZA..sell all or do you still have some?
[12:19 pm] joeytsa : where to short? every time it hits resistance and THEN turns down..it has to turn down first for me to short
[12:19 pm] mikewd2 -: I've been buying GS 2013 LEAPS
[12:20 pm] jewels : I know what you mean joey
[12:20 pm] joeytsa : i don't see good things for banks mike, but you never know
[12:20 pm] mikewd2 -: still have all
[12:20 pm] mikewd2 -: would feel better if it would close up about 0.25 more
[12:21 pm] joeytsa : not every trade will be a winner, but like Mitch says every night..put the odds on your side
[12:21 pm] mhaus : in Prior Day indicator do "False" for Show High, low and open
[12:21 pm] mhaus : Sonorant, try adding two indicators. Prior Day OHLC and Current Day OHL
[12:21 pm] mikewd2 -: not going to worry until Mitch says market turning up.
[12:22 pm] mhaus : In the current day, you can see the High, Low and Open
[12:22 pm] mhaus : That will only show the close
[12:22 pm] mikewd2 -: are you out? garyb
[12:22 pm] mikewd2 -: i'm still up about $1 buck on avg on 5k shares
[12:22 pm] mikewd2 -: moved my stop down to BE
[12:23 pm] garyb : yeh mike, I'm out
[12:23 pm] mikewd2 -: i thought you had a swing?
[12:25 pm] garyb : Market went up...wondering if Gadafi's death had something to do with that
[12:25 pm] lightning : ok, that's it for me today. see you tomorrow
[12:25 pm] lightning : thanks TSA and everybody
[12:26 pm] boomboom : CMG just keeps dying
[12:26 pm] boomboom : CMG just keeps dying
[12:26 pm] mikewd2 -: TZA back above yesterday's close
[12:26 pm] mikewd2 -: would like to short CMG but ...
[12:27 pm] boomboom : I would too, Mike
[12:27 pm] garyb : Kris, just wondering why you closed TZA swing? Did you notice something on the indicators?
[12:27 pm] joeytsa : no weekly's on CMG unfortunately..but tomorrow is option ex
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: it could easily drop 10-15 pts with earnings
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: Kris, thoughts on shorting CMG?
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: lod and earnings tonight
[12:27 pm] shark : everybody has weekly's this week, joeytsa
[12:27 pm] sonorant : mhaus -- I have those indicators added. The problem is that I am also showing after market hours -- and I like it that way. As a result, my open and my close and my high and my low (those these last 2 are often not affected) come from afterhours data. This means, for example that my "open" line comes from midnight, as does my previous day close.
[12:28 pm] boomboom : Almost looks like that's the way it's headed..geesh
[12:28 pm] garyb : riding this wave
[12:28 pm] garyb : yeh Mike I bought in again but with a small position
[12:28 pm] joeytsa : CMG 305 pouts approx $8
[12:28 pm] joeytsa : correct shark :)
[12:28 pm] shark : everything pricey on CMG
[12:28 pm] sonorant : Well, not from midnight, but from when the extended hours begin and end. I can get it to work correctly, but then I have to give up my after market hours data.
[12:29 pm] joeytsa : the 315 puts approx $13
[12:29 pm] mikewd2 -: shorted CMG, let's see how she goes only 100 shares
[12:29 pm] shark : better to trade off the open
[12:29 pm] shark : could not find any trade that makes sense.
[12:29 pm] sonorant : There is supposedly a way to fix it with adding a second "invisible" chart that uses a different time series, but I am having some undesirable side effects.
[12:30 pm] garyb : You will dump TZA Mike?
[12:30 pm] mhaus : open should show market open not midnight price
[12:30 pm] mhaus : Sonorant, your close should show yesterday's close and the open will show today's open price.
[12:30 pm] mikewd2 -: hopefully dump after hours
[12:30 pm] mikewd2 -: no CMG short
[12:30 pm] shark : CMG volatility to 125% OCT vs 47% normal
[12:30 pm] shark : why not mike?
[12:31 pm] joeytsa : i think this move on CMG is profit taking
[12:31 pm] mikewd2 -: i think it has more upside, TZA that is
[12:32 pm] boomboom : Joey...profit taking bcuz insiders know it's gonna dump? out in general?
[12:34 pm] joeytsa : if i had to guess, i would say it was off of that $30 run the past 2 weeks
[12:34 pm] mhaus : I see what you are saying.
[12:34 pm] mhaus : Sonorant, can you forward me the video from NT?
[12:35 pm] joeytsa : i think a few of the darlings will get bit...mentioned PCLN a few times
[12:35 pm] joeytsa : up $30 in 6-7 days, down almost $15 the past 3
[12:35 pm] mikewd2 -: i'm hoping CMG is the next of the over priced stocks to start falling.
[12:35 pm] shark : good long term growth story, mike.
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : not if people don't have jobs/money
[12:36 pm] mikewd2 -: my thoughts, over priced food
[12:36 pm] mikewd2 -: saturation at some point
[12:36 pm] mikewd2 -: so was NFLX i think
[12:36 pm] ronfrac : MHAUS: Are you using NINJA Charts?
[12:36 pm] shark : CEO sees 3000 store as "realistic" they have 1200 presently
[12:36 pm] shark : long term fast casual healthy in vogue
[12:36 pm] shark : they just added a new possible "CHAIN" chinese theme restaurant that could take off
[12:36 pm] sonorant : mhaus -- right, it is a problem if you want to include your extended market hours. I will forward the video once we solve the problem.
[12:37 pm] joeytsa : true, but they don't have to eat there
[12:37 pm] rusty : ORS radar.... not for daytrade...very small float
[12:37 pm] shark : people still have to eat, joeytsa
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : i think PCLN is cool too, but their chart looks shaky at best
[12:38 pm] rusty : ORS radar...NOT for daytrade...very thin
[12:38 pm] shark : 2x growth of 25% = PE50
[12:39 pm] shark : look at BWLD today guys!
[12:39 pm] shark : restaurant sector is in top 10% of market performance
[12:40 pm] joeytsa : 20/50ma meeting around 310, 200ma at 280
[12:40 pm] joeytsa : CMG is at least still in a longer term uptrend
[12:40 pm] rusty : BWLD peak volume
[12:40 pm] rusty : day
[12:40 pm] shark : agreed joey
[12:40 pm] shark : BWLD still near hod
[12:40 pm] shark : short term, it broke below 50day today
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : even if they drop, if they hold the 290/280 level that would set up a long swing for me
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : on a lower high off that last drop
[12:41 pm] mikewd2 -: looks weak on daily and 15 min to me
[12:42 pm] joeytsa : if the market doesn't collapse
[12:42 pm] joeytsa : right mike, that would be a profit target on a short for you?
[12:42 pm] mikewd2 -: $5 bucks
[12:42 pm] mikewd2 -: i won't be in the short at that point joey
[12:42 pm] shark : might do like GOOG - pop, then pull back
[12:43 pm] joeytsa : b4 any hold, i check for company events
[12:43 pm] joeytsa : i just want to play the trend with no surprises
[12:43 pm] joeytsa : nice job shark
[12:43 pm] joeytsa : that's why i don't hold thru announcements...
[12:43 pm] mikewd2 -: right that happens a lot shark
[12:43 pm] shark : agreed joey
[12:43 pm] shark : I just closed out my short 270 put for 50% profit
[12:43 pm] shark : or drop, then rally bit back like AAPL
[12:43 pm] shark : totally agreed
[12:44 pm] joeytsa : haha
[12:44 pm] mikewd2 -: like this nice jump here in CMG, means a fall coming
[12:44 pm] mikewd2 -: that's the smart money, i have some dumb money i need to use up
[12:44 pm] rusty : AMR alert
[12:44 pm] shark : earnings is almost like 50/50 gamble in this market environment
[12:44 pm] shark : hahaha :)
[12:44 pm] shark : risk capital mike?
[12:45 pm] joeytsa : yeah, i agree shark..earnings used to be easy
[12:45 pm] mhaus : Yes Ron. I use Ninja Charts.
[12:45 pm] shark : totally very few "tells" these days in the market on earnings reports
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : funny we are talking about CMG today...
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : my best earnings play was on CMGI a dozen years ago
[12:46 pm] mhaus : My replies may be a little slow as I am on cellular data connection.
[12:47 pm] garyb : did you have a lot of shares?
[12:47 pm] garyb : wow joey...awesome
[12:47 pm] joeytsa : had a $150 run in 4 days..just nuts
[12:47 pm] joeytsa : i wish haha
[12:47 pm] joeytsa : some internet company..never even looked to see what they did
[12:47 pm] rusty : CMGI a blast from the past
[12:47 pm] rusty : CMGI used to move 50-100 points some days
[12:47 pm] shark : cmgi?
[12:47 pm] shark : not enough time to do research in those days.
[12:47 pm] shark : oh, starting to ring some bells
[12:47 pm] shark : WHOA!
[12:48 pm] candelas : bought for .85 per contract and sold for 16
[12:48 pm] candelas : mine was options play on etrade back in 98
[12:48 pm] candelas : right b4 christmas
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: my best trade was SSTI in late 90's, 3 to 118
[12:48 pm] shark : massive spread too?
[12:49 pm] candelas : msft was the play back then as well
[12:49 pm] garyb : I often think of apple in 2004 when it was 10 bucks! Man!
[12:49 pm] garyb : In just 7 years would have paid millions
[12:49 pm] mikewd2 -: and it went back to about 7 from 118, wish i shorted back then
[12:49 pm] mikewd2 -: bought a ranch with that money.
[12:49 pm] shark : GREAT! AWESOME!!!!
[12:49 pm] shark : MSFT was the "stock of the decade"
[12:49 pm] shark : WHOA, nice mike!
[12:50 pm] joeytsa : same with QCOM,JDSU
[12:50 pm] mikewd2 -: and they were down the street from me in Austin
[12:50 pm] mikewd2 -: had DELL in kid's college fund, way back when, made 15% and dumped it - stupid stupid stupid.
[12:50 pm] sonorant : sometimes I think that the "lucky" plays ruin us for the plain everyday hum drum of ordinary trades....
[12:51 pm] candelas : orcl was another nice move, it broke out went until 2001
[12:51 pm] garyb : I know Mike.....I would have probably dumped apple at 20 if I bought at 10.......sometimes we over analyze
[12:51 pm] joeytsa : SDLI was another bread & butter stock in my flock
[12:51 pm] rusty : MLNK is the former CMGI...take a look at a multi-year chart, lol
[12:52 pm] candelas : yhoo was a mover also back then
[12:52 pm] garyb : Then again...I bought this stupid stock back in 2007...bought in at $1.5.....today it's 7 cents and I am still holding it, nobody wants the crap! Great restaurant too
[12:52 pm] joeytsa : none of those internet companies and anything close to earnings haha
[12:52 pm] joeytsa : that's nuts
[12:52 pm] joeytsa : that's where i learned my gap strategy...from a market maker
[12:52 pm] mikewd2 -: always looked at the profits! bad boy.
[12:52 pm] rusty : Gap ups in CMG were sometimes 50 points
[12:52 pm] rusty : lol
[12:52 pm] rusty : was almost 2000 split adjusted, now 4
[12:52 pm] shark : 20-30 is common CMG after earnings
[12:52 pm] shark : MLNK time to close out that short position from 2000
[12:52 pm] shark : Oh cool, rusty!
[12:53 pm] joeytsa : memory lane
[12:53 pm] mikewd2 -: i owned some of those also, wonder where those certificates are?
[12:53 pm] shark : which one gary?
[12:54 pm] candelas : just think if we had 3/4 of discipline we have now back then
[12:54 pm] garyb : Spicey Pickle! Great sandwiches...horrible stock! I'll sell you some shark at 1.70! lol
[12:54 pm] joeytsa :.just lost over 50% [12:54 pm] garyb : SPKL...sorry I lied.....they are at 3 cents! lol
[12:55 pm] garyb : always a big RED mark on my portfolio
[12:55 pm] garyb : more than that shark....from 1.50 to 3 cents
[12:55 pm] joeytsa : i had global communications in my portfolio...
[12:55 pm] joeytsa : thanks for the laugh
[12:55 pm] joeytsa : thought they would connect the world with their undersea lines
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