Chat Highlights From 10/18/2012

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[06:27 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watcing ALGN for bottom
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching MLNX for trades both ways, bottom first
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching PDCO for bottom
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching XRAY for bottom
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching DO for top to short
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watchin SCSS for bottom
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching SIAL for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching JNPR for short
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching AXP for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: more downside on WCC, consider short
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching PM for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching ABT for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching DSW for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching PANW for bottom soon
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching GGC for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching TMO for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching CCK for top to short top of this rebound
[06:35 am] Mitch K: consider selling AXP
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching MELI for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watchng GMCR for short
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching APOL for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching GHL for short on top of bounce
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching KORS for short
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching PDCO closer
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching ZION for bottom
[06:38 am] Mitch K: moniotiring PENN for short, low vol
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching PII for quick short, missed bottom. watch for top of this bounce
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching LIFE for bottom, lol, this is funny
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching EBAY for top to short
[06:40 am] Ed : on WCC monitor the 65 level,
[06:41 am] Mitch K: monitoring HWD, lower priced
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching VVUS for bottom
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching CY for bottom
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching FFIV for bottom
[06:43 am] Ed : NFLX is strong agains market so far
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching ELLI for bottom
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching FOSL for bottom,
[06:43 am] Mitch K: VVUS bottoming
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching LRCX for top to short
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching NE for top to short
[06:44 am] Ed : if can get bounce in SPY, keep NFLX on radar
[06:44 am] Mitch K: ABT bounce should be strong, esp when market turns around for bounce
[06:45 am] Ed : WLT is also strong
[06:45 am] Ed : NFLX
[06:45 am] Ed : would use 69.20 with STRONG vol for breakout to take long
[06:46 am] Ed : see if we get pullback on WLT prefer 39.27 level and hold
[06:47 am] Mitch K: use limit on WDAY
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching WDAY for bottom
[06:48 am] Mitch K: consider reducing PM long
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider reducing GMCR short
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider covering JNPR soon, velly soon
[06:50 am] Mitch K: MELI bounce looking strong
[06:51 am] Mitch K: ELLI bounce also looks strong
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching for 54.20 area on WDAY
[06:52 am] Mitch K: see if new highs on SCSS here before selling
[06:52 am] Mitch K: consider covering KORS short
[06:52 am] Mitch K: APOl bouncing
[06:53 am] Mitch K: starting to watch UNP
[06:53 am] Mitch K: ZION ddead
[06:53 am] Mitch K: that tells me to hold longer
[06:53 am] Mitch K: ok right there broke through 30.25 on SCSS
[06:55 am] Mitch K: SCSS still strong, you decide when to sell
[06:55 am] Mitch K: consider selling FFIV
[06:55 am] Mitch K: consider reducing or selling ELLI
[06:55 am] Mitch K: consider selling ABT
[06:56 am] Mitch K: consider reducing PDCO, could get in trouble again
[06:56 am] Mitch K: WDAY still strong
[06:56 am] Mitch K: SCSS toppy
[06:56 am] Mitch K: MLNX trying to bounce looks very weak
[06:56 am] Mitch K: NE turning over
[06:57 am] Mitch K: watching BDSI for bottom
[06:57 am] Mitch K: lost interest in AXP
[06:58 am] Mitch K: starting to watch BIIB
[06:58 am] Mitch K: MELI still strong bounce
[06:59 am] Mitch K: watching AEGR for short
[06:59 am] Mitch K: watching PII for 2nd short soon
[07:00 am] Mitch K: wait for PII to stop moving up before shorting
[07:00 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[07:00 am] Mitch K: WDAY toppy, consider selling best price
[07:00 am] Mitch K: watching VRTX for bottom
[07:01 am] Mitch K: im not making this up
[07:01 am] Mitch K: LIFE looking better
[07:03 am] Mitch K: ELLI still strong, no sell signal yet
[07:03 am] Mitch K: MELI sell signal
[07:04 am] Mitch K: lost interest in trading EBAY
[07:04 am] Mitch K: VVUS looks stalled, consider selling
[07:04 am] Mitch K: CY bounce looking good
[07:06 am] Mitch K: losing interest in LRCX
[07:06 am] Mitch K: watching DDD for bottom
[07:07 am] Mitch K: taking FOSL off screen
[07:07 am] Mitch K: watching GRA for top
[07:10 am] Mitch K: consider covering KORS if short
[07:16 am] Ed : getting some sellng in markets
[07:19 am] Mitch K: watching VRTX closer too, need market to rebound though with these
[07:19 am] Mitch K: watching BIIB closer,
[07:22 am] Mitch K: low priced
[07:22 am] Mitch K: OEH spike
[07:29 am] Mitch K: need an Obama mulligan
[07:29 am] Mitch K: i saw that OEH for sale at 9.51 when i first saw it,
[07:30 am] Mitch K: looking for cover point on UNP short
[07:32 am] Mitch K: KORS bounce stalling here, reduce
[07:32 am] Mitch K: OEH sell signal 1 min chart
[07:33 am] Mitch K: watching ADS for 2nd helping short, missed first
[07:42 am] Mitch K: still no sell signal on 2 min chart with OEH
[07:43 am] Mitch K: just got sell signal with OEH on 2 min chart
[07:45 am] Mitch K: the shorts on top of bounces working real well today, most everything working today
[07:45 am] Mitch K: prob with this OEH is it isnt turning down easily which means danger for shorts
[07:49 am] Mitch K: if it is for stock then it can come down easily because investors question that stock
[07:49 am] Mitch K: its probably cash right?
[07:49 am] Mitch K: thanks go4it, i did not look up news, this wont come down, close short
[07:55 am] Mitch K: watching PII again, for short
[08:08 am] Ed : good eye regatta
[08:36 am] Ed : SPY nearing hod
[08:52 am] Mitch K: good job eddy
[08:53 am] Mitch K: watching CY again
[09:00 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[09:06 am] Mitch K: that is all i was looking for in CY
[09:22 am] Ed : SPY pulling back
[09:31 am] Mitch K: this kind of action with CY is same as DOV yesterday, repeated good trades.  $10 stock giving out 2-3% trades
[09:33 am] Ed : GOOG reported earnings
[09:51 am] Ed : good is halted
[09:59 am] Ed : good eye murano on DISH
[10:00 am] Ed : anyone still in OEH
[10:00 am] Ed : OEH turend out to be nice short
[10:19 am] Ed : weakness in RRD attributed to report on GOOG
[10:20 am] Ed : GOOG says RRD filed earning release without authorization
[10:41 am] Ed : this is in gulf on mexico
[10:41 am] Ed : oil coming from containment dome re: BP
[10:42 am] Ed : oil coming from containment dome re: BP
[10:51 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[11:35 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[12:03 pm] Ed : GOOG will resume 3:20est
[12:04 pm] Ed : that is according to nasdaq
[12:06 pm] Mitch K: you guys trade RRD on that drop
[12:09 pm] Mitch K: + bonus
[12:09 pm] Mitch K: analysts calling GOOG a buying opportunity.  those guys are on salary
[12:20 pm] Ed : GOOG open
[12:35 pm] Mitch K: although i dont follow GOOG often
[12:35 pm] Mitch K: about 8 days ago
[12:35 pm] Mitch K: interesting on the Daily chart using Lightning the GOOG had sell signal on 10-8-2012 at $758.76
[12:58 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders
[01:03 pm] Mitch K: bye ladies

[06:10 am] reshef  : G.m
[06:10 am] mikewd2 -: good morning traders
[06:10 am] taco  : good morning
[06:11 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Mitch, everyone
[06:11 am] reshef  : Is VALE D.B ad support trend?
[06:11 am] joeytsa  : philly fed #/CB leading index @ 7PDT
[06:11 am] joeytsa  : nat gas # @ 7:30PDT
[06:12 am] qwert  : good morning everybody
[06:12 am] joeytsa  : gap up: WCC,AEGR,TRV,JNPR
[06:12 am] joeytsa  : gap down: MLNX,ALGN,ULTA,SCSS
[06:12 am] taco  : thanks joey
[06:13 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:13 am] qwert  : thx joey nice gap on mgm as well
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : DHR down also
[06:15 am] eddy  : hi all
[06:15 am] ticktrader  : GM Everybody
[06:16 am] cowboyh  : GM all
[06:20 am] joeytsa  : and just like magic, the unemployment claims went up
[06:21 am] joeytsa  : eye on ABT
[06:26 am] mikewd2 -: watching VRNG - lower priced stock
[06:26 am] shark  : will be watching MLNX -16%
[06:26 am] mikewd2 -: MLNX earnings looked decent, but several downgrades
[06:26 am] victor51  : shark, any news mlnx
[06:26 am] victor51  : good morning all
[06:26 am] joeytsa  : MLNX forecast 4Q below estimates
[06:26 am] shark  : announced it will explore strategic alternatives to maximize growth and shareholder value
[06:27 am] elisha  : Good Morning Mitch, Ed and everyone
[06:27 am] joeytsa  : going to be a lot of gaps the next couple weeks
[06:27 am] joeytsa  : hi Ed
[06:27 am] taco  : hi Ed
[06:27 am] eddy  : MIke IM with you ON VRNG
[06:27 am] eddy  : HI Ed
[06:28 am] shark  : my last post is for GIVN stock
[06:28 am] qwert  : gm Ed
[06:28 am] shark  : GIVN +12.7% pre
[06:29 am] joeytsa  : no shorts on GIVN at lightspeed
[06:29 am] joeytsa  : eye on ALGN
[06:30 am] joeytsa  : cover if you already shorted it
[06:31 am] joeytsa  : watch AEGR
[06:32 am] joeytsa  : ABT still trying to bottom
[06:34 am] joeytsa  : GMCR spike
[06:36 am] shark  : watching KORS
[06:36 am] joeytsa  : tighten ALGN, still has some room
[06:37 am] shark  : MLNX
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : MLNX trying to hold $80
[06:37 am] shark  : round #, yeah
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : missed a real nice swing short in MLNX
[06:38 am] shark  : like to see that vol capitulation - MLNX
[06:38 am] joeytsa  : tighten SCSS if long
[06:40 am] shawn  : what price looks good for Zion
[06:41 am] shark  : not enough drop for me, shawn
[06:41 am] Ed : hey shawn, the goals is to give out great ideas, from time to time we have chance to give prices to lookout for
[06:41 am] shawn  : what price looks good to short EBAy
[06:41 am] shark  : MLNX new lod
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : shark: are you short MLNX?
[06:42 am] Ed : but not all the time
[06:42 am] Ed : but on ebay 50 is key level
[06:42 am] shark  : no, waiting for bounce, long
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : yeah, no shares at lightspeed
[06:43 am] shark  : ebay better, shawn :)
[06:43 am] joeytsa  : tighten ABT
[06:43 am] joeytsa  : beautiful opening 15 minutes
[06:44 am] mikewd2 -: CYMI moving nicely
[06:44 am] joeytsa  : MLNX fighting here at $79
[06:45 am] shawn  : anybody short EBAY?
[06:46 am] taco  : yes
[06:46 am] taco  : 50.19 s
[06:47 am] qwert  : nice entry taco
[06:47 am] taco  : using time and sales to gelp me
[06:47 am] taco  : and some luck:)
[06:48 am] shawn  : how we looking on ebay short?
[06:48 am] joeytsa  : needs to lose $50
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : caution reminder: Philly Fed # out in 10 minutes
[06:49 am] shark  : MLNX retest lod
[06:49 am] Ed : thx joey
[06:49 am] shark  : thx, joey
[06:49 am] shark  : see if MLNX can hold lod
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : no probs..just be careful, sometimes get a quick move
[06:50 am] joeytsa  : ES has been rangebound
[06:51 am] mikewd2 -: WLT at 40
[06:51 am] joeytsa  : KSU spike, low vol
[06:52 am] taco  : stopped ebay
[06:52 am] shawn  : just got my teeth kicked in on EBAY
[06:52 am] shark  : MLNX new lod
[06:53 am] qwert  : monitoring TRV
[06:53 am] joeytsa  : TRV was nice
[06:54 am] shark  : got that recommendation from Joe Terranova here in LA couple weeks ago - TRV
[06:54 am] joeytsa  : had good earnings also
[06:54 am] shark  : :)
[06:54 am] joeytsa  : gapped up and ran
[06:55 am] joeytsa  : out MLNX..not getting greedy
[06:55 am] mikewd2 -: SINA
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : lots of nice moves so far, but the ES hasnt done anything
[06:56 am] shark  : nice joey
[06:57 am] reshef  : lrcx
[06:57 am] joeytsa  : nice test of $40 on WLT
[06:58 am] mikewd2 -: CYMI thru 73
[06:58 am] joeytsa  : same with EBAY at $50
[06:58 am] shark  : nice reshef - don't forget to capitalize: LCRX
[06:58 am] mikewd2 -: shorted WLT 40.14
[06:58 am] mikewd2 -: at pivot
[06:59 am] shark  : i show R1 test of res area, mike
[06:59 am] joeytsa  : AEGR had that FDA halt yesterday
[06:59 am] shark  : Pivot - 38.09 WLT
[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: run CYMI run
[07:00 am] joeytsa  : ES bouncing
[07:00 am] shark  : KORS b/e test
[07:00 am] shark  : great short at top KORS :)
[07:01 am] joeytsa  : decent reports...once again this week, they forecasts were low and numbers came out huge
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: phili oct fed 5.7 vs 1.0 expected
[07:02 am] joeytsa  : my BS meter just went off again
[07:02 am] shark  : nice, joey
[07:02 am] joeytsa  : how can you have so many #'s that doubled + the forecast
[07:02 am] shark  : MLNX nice -testing vwap
[07:03 am] joeytsa  : i have vwap at 80.80??
[07:03 am] shark  : 80.61
[07:03 am] shark  : on mine
[07:03 am] joeytsa  : close enough haha
[07:04 am] shark  : any other #'s today, joey?
[07:04 am] joeytsa  : just nat gas in 25 minutes
[07:04 am] shark  : ;)
[07:05 am] joeytsa  : some res areas ; EABY 50.40, WLT  40.20, MLNX 80.31
[07:06 am] shark  : WLT looks like it will work thru R1
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : qwert: did you get that TRV short?
[07:06 am] shark  : very strong, broke out of quadruple top
[07:07 am] qwert  : nope missed and had it right in front of me  :))
[07:07 am] joeytsa  : same here, had eyes elsewhere
[07:08 am] joeytsa  : made that move right after the report
[07:08 am] qwert  : was adjusting my pdco long
[07:08 am] shark  : MLNX = patience test
[07:08 am] shark  : holding 10min ma
[07:08 am] joeytsa  : it will move at 7:45PDT
[07:09 am] joeytsa  : thats when i go to breakfast :)
[07:09 am] qwert  : hahaha
[07:09 am] shark  : ugh
[07:09 am] shark  : MLNX +.50
[07:10 am] joeytsa  : this long on WLT looks shaky
[07:11 am] shark  : how so?
[07:11 am] joeytsa  : neg div
[07:11 am] mikewd2 -: I'm still short on WLT, jjoey
[07:11 am] joeytsa  : thats my prob, trying to fight mike haha
[07:11 am] joeytsa  : and his 5M shares
[07:12 am] mikewd2 -: tried to get out at 39.65, but didnt hit
[07:12 am] elisha  : joey, how far baack are you going to get resistance of 80.31 on MLNX?
[07:12 am] joeytsa  : im not risking much
[07:12 am] shark  : I'll be working overtime today, joey
[07:13 am] joeytsa  : elisha: just looking at my chart
[07:13 am] shark  : CMG earnings out after bell
[07:13 am] joeytsa  : ahhh
[07:13 am] joeytsa  : 80.31 is one of the pivots
[07:13 am] mikewd2 -: closed call on CYMI - decent profit including the price of the put.
[07:14 am] elisha  : ok
[07:14 am] elisha  : thx
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : no prob, my charts have more lines than joan rivers face :)
[07:15 am] qwert  : hahaha
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : chalk up a loss on WLT
[07:16 am] shark  : she
[07:16 am] shark  : she'll be happy you said that
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : :)
[07:17 am] go4it  : Isn't J Rivers skin tight as drum Joey haha
[07:17 am] shark  : lol
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: depends go4it on how long from last face lift
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : haha
[07:17 am] shark  : SPY new lod
[07:18 am] shark  : near S1 -SPY
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : real quick drop
[07:18 am] go4it  : lol Those skin cells only strech so far haha
[07:18 am] shark  : making all the shorts work better
[07:18 am] shark  : drill baby drill
[07:18 am] taco  : Joey, thanks for info at start. lots to get me pre set for
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: eddie: you still in VRNG long?
[07:19 am] taco  : done very well just with that info
[07:19 am] joeytsa  : taco: no prob, some days they all fail, others they work well
[07:19 am] eddy  : NFLX at Pivot
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : as Mitch says, always be flexible
[07:20 am] taco  : got ya, i don't have the gap info so your posts are helpful
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: out VRNG +0.20
[07:20 am] taco  : i get credit for what i do with them :)
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : what platform are you on?
[07:20 am] taco  : ib/ninja
[07:20 am] taco  : kinetick data
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : IB doesnt have gap info?
[07:21 am] taco  : i don't pay for data from them
[07:21 am] taco  : ill check into it tho
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : gotya...this might help
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : http://www.nasdaq.com/extended-trading/premar ket-mostactive.aspx
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : bookmark it
[07:21 am] taco  : cool, got that one
[07:22 am] qwert  : thats really good info joey
[07:22 am] joeytsa  : another one i look at pre-market...
[07:22 am] joeytsa  : http://www.rttnews.com/storylist.aspx?type=bt b&Node=B6
[07:22 am] shark  : DD news -wow
[07:26 am] shark  : nice vol spke, VRTX
[07:26 am] eddy  : long NFLX 67.74
[07:26 am] joeytsa  : same with DO
[07:27 am] joeytsa  : the ES is still holding S1, loss of that and the 1450 level then it might get ugly
[07:28 am] eddy  : all out NFLw
[07:29 am] eddy  : nflx
[07:29 am] shark  : haha, nice call OEH, Mitch
[07:29 am] joeytsa  : yeah same here Mitch
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : fun to jump on those if you catch them  early enough in the move
[07:30 am] reshef  : BAX
[07:32 am] mikewd2 -: nat gas inv up 51bcf
[07:32 am] mikewd2 -: est 48 bcf
[07:33 am] shark  : spike down UNG
[07:35 am] shawn  : does 142.62 look like a good price to take it short
[07:36 am] joeytsa  : tighten OEH if long
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : MLNX tesing $78 now
[07:38 am] shark  : 200 day 67.62
[07:38 am] joeytsa  : thx
[07:39 am] joeytsa  : gotta love those time-delay trades like OEH
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: Indian Hotels offers $12.63 per share for Orient-Express stock not owned
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : thx mike
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : ALGN still bleeding
[07:41 am] joeytsa  : trying to bottom
[07:41 am] mikewd2 -: ABT moving
[07:41 am] shark  : MLNX on CNBC
[07:41 am] joeytsa  : yeah, look at the daily chart on MLNX
[07:42 am] shark  : up 140% ytd
[07:42 am] joeytsa  : i missed a clear short
[07:42 am] joeytsa  : break time, fun morning..see you all in a bit
[07:42 am] shark  : you miss on earnings you get taken to the woodshed
[07:42 am] shark  : bye joey :)
[07:42 am] taco  : c ya joey,
[07:43 am] joeytsa  : yeah, plus the gapped down last month, barely closed itt then made lower highs
[07:43 am] joeytsa  : that last one around $108 was a huge signal
[07:43 am] shark  : what was the news on that drop?
[07:43 am] joeytsa  : cant remember
[07:43 am] joeytsa  : mike probably shorted it haha
[07:44 am] joeytsa  : im out, see you in 30
[07:44 am] shark  : island top pattern MLNX
[07:45 am] qwert  : cya joey
[07:48 am] go4it  : (OEH) Indian Hotels offers $12.63 per share for Orient-Express stock not owned
[07:50 am] mikewd2 -: IHCL says Orient-Express board not interested in exploring transaction
[07:50 am] shark  : debt and equity transaction - OEH
[07:50 am] mikewd2 -: maybe spiking because a better offer will have to be made.
[07:51 am] mikewd2 -: I'm short 15.40 avg.
[07:51 am] mikewd2 -: sorry 12.40
[07:52 am] mikewd2 -: also bought 12.50 puts
[07:53 am] eddy  : where is your stop Mike?
[07:54 am] mikewd2 -: actually dont have one in place, just watching
[07:54 am] Ed : MLNX extremely weak
[07:54 am] mikewd2 -: almost dumped at 12.75 but didn't
[07:55 am] eddy  : I am short at 12.40 OEH stop at 12.50
[07:55 am] mikewd2 -: you just entered position?
[07:55 am] eddy  : this is my third attempt
[07:55 am] eddy  : and prob will be stopped again
[07:55 am] eddy  : hpefully not
[07:56 am] mikewd2 -: i was stopped once at 11.50 area
[07:56 am] lisas  : MLNX was an IBD Leaderboard stock. It has now been cut from the Leaderboard, along with ALGN,  after drops after hours last nite.
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: CYMI hod
[08:00 am] mikewd2 -: QCOR moving
[08:01 am] regatta  : watching DF
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: Mitch was right on swing on QCOR hitting 25-26 area
[08:05 am] regatta  : watching UTEK
[08:09 am] regatta  : thanks
[08:11 am] joeytsa  : beautiful bounce on MLNX
[08:12 am] joeytsa  : right off that hammer at $76
[08:12 am] qwert  : joey did you grt the 2nd chance at short on gra
[08:13 am] joeytsa  : on GRA?
[08:13 am] joeytsa  : no
[08:13 am] regatta  : watching GPS
[08:13 am] regatta  : GPC
[08:13 am] Ed : hey eddy how u  making it with OEH
[08:14 am] qwert  : was a nice setup
[08:14 am] eddy  : still in it
[08:14 am] joeytsa  : yeah it was
[08:14 am] eddy  : stop at 12 .24
[08:14 am] mikewd2 -: pretty tight stop eddy
[08:14 am] eddy  : wats yr stop MIKE?
[08:15 am] mikewd2 -: just put one in 12.63
[08:15 am] mikewd2 -: buyout price
[08:15 am] mikewd2 -: sounds like OEH doesn't want the buyout
[08:15 am] go4it  : I show support at 11.15 on 3min chart
[08:16 am] mikewd2 -: would love to see that area go4it
[08:16 am] go4it  : ditto!
[08:16 am] joeytsa  : i didnt get the short
[08:17 am] joeytsa  : only got $1 on the long
[08:17 am] mikewd2 -: figured you got more
[08:17 am] qwert  : only  thats 10%
[08:17 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[08:17 am] joeytsa  : meaning i didnt get that first $2 of the move
[08:18 am] eddy  : im down 1.1 k on this one
[08:18 am] eddy  : lets see if i can get some back
[08:18 am] go4it  : Joey doesn't speak percent
[08:18 am] joeytsa  : amen go4it
[08:18 am] eddy  : i removed my stop ..no Stop on my short now
[08:18 am] qwert  : he speaks dollars
[08:19 am] mikewd2 -: eddy, don't think that is too dangerous with offer price 12.63 - can't imagine it going higher today.
[08:19 am] joeytsa  : its just how i learned, lots of traders here do very well working with %, so i cant knock it..its just not how i am wired
[08:19 am] mikewd2 -: wouldn't swing it though
[08:19 am] joeytsa  : famous last words  hah
[08:20 am] eddy  : i Hope so Mike lets see . i just place stop at 12.75 anway
[08:21 am] qwert  : hahaha  sometimes with % you leave money on the table im just eyeballing charts now for tgts and works better at least for me
[08:21 am] mikewd2 -: probably smart eddy
[08:21 am] joeytsa  : smart plan eddy
[08:21 am] eddy  : if it goes down to the 11.50 area i would be at BE
[08:21 am] mikewd2 -: outch
[08:21 am] joeytsa  : qwert: nothing wrong with leaving money on the table
[08:22 am] joeytsa  : nice call on UTEK
[08:22 am] qwert  : oh for sure just trying to be more efficient
[08:23 am] eddy  : Mitch wat does Lighting signal on OEH?
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: die OEH
[08:25 am] joeytsa  : have to give you guys props for your patience
[08:27 am] eddy  : if OEh breaks vwap at 111.87 it may have a chance to fall further
[08:27 am] eddy  : 11.87
[08:30 am] qwert  : watching bx
[08:30 am] joeytsa  : AMZN hod, see what it does at $250
[08:31 am] mikewd2 -: closed OEH puts, 50% gain
[08:31 am] joeytsa  : nice mike
[08:31 am] qwert  : nice mike
[08:32 am] taco  : nice mike
[08:32 am] joeytsa  : great call on GPC also
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: MLNX turning?
[08:33 am] eddy  : out half OEH at 11.87
[08:34 am] eddy  : stop at 12.10 for remaining half
[08:34 am] Ed : nice trading eddy
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : mike: do you mean up or down?
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: down it looks
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : im watching the 78 to 77.93 level
[08:35 am] eddy  : thx Ed lets see where it faals to
[08:35 am] mikewd2 -: CYMI hit PP and turned over
[08:36 am] regatta  : watching CTRP
[08:37 am] joeytsa  : WCC trying a cup break on the 1min
[08:37 am] joeytsa  : you are on a roll regatta..keep rowing :)
[08:38 am] regatta  : i'm using a trolling motor now
[08:38 am] joeytsa  : nice
[08:38 am] joeytsa  : Newsweek is ceasing the print edition in the US..going all digital
[08:39 am] joeytsa  : lots of city papers are cutting back also
[08:43 am] taco  : nice CTRP murano
[08:43 am] taco  : sorry regatta
[08:44 am] joeytsa  : WCC nice drop on cup break failure
[08:44 am] regatta  : i must have multiple personalities :)
[08:46 am] taco  : )
[08:49 am] mikewd2 -: getting some bigger red candles on OEH
[08:49 am] mikewd2 -: out 1/4 position
[08:49 am] qwert  : your oeh short is looking awesome
[08:51 am] eddy  : all out OEh 11.53
[08:51 am] eddy  : i guess i need other opportuinities to recover the remaing 450 dollars tonite
[08:52 am] mikewd2 -: you lost on OEH?
[08:52 am] joeytsa  : at least you showed some patience
[08:52 am] eddy  : ya  first two attempts went down 1.1 k
[08:52 am] eddy  : thanx MItch
[08:52 am] mikewd2 -: gotya
[08:54 am] joeytsa  : gallop poll has romney up by 6pts
[08:54 am] mikewd2 -: revenues and earnings look to be under estimates on CY
[08:54 am] joeytsa  : doesnt take in the last debate though
[08:56 am] Mitch K: joey, you like vocalists?
[08:56 am] joeytsa  : for the most part, not a big classical music vocal fan though
[08:56 am] Mitch K: listen to this 13 year old sing, over the top:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPAUGh9GHn8&am p;amp;feature=share&list=ULmPAUGh9GHn 8
[08:57 am] Mitch K: this is not classical
[08:57 am] joeytsa  : saw this girl a few weeks back
[08:57 am] joeytsa  : really like her, they advancded her last night
[08:58 am] lisas  : She is really good, a number of very good ones this year.
[08:58 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: my wife is a vocal coach, so i get to hear all types
[08:58 am] Mitch K: i thought that was very mature, does not seem like a 13 year old
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : very mature voice
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : her audition a few weeks back was off the hook
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : MLNX revving up
[09:01 am] joeytsa  : thanks for that link Mitch, didnt get to see that on tv
[09:02 am] eddy  : Mike still in OEH?
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[09:03 am] eddy  : u got nerves of steel man
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: 3/4 position
[09:03 am] eddy  : it is break 11.39 i shorted again
[09:05 am] mikewd2 -: watching CLF
[09:07 am] joeytsa  : decent move in LULU
[09:08 am] joeytsa  : 2 vol spikes past 15 minutes or so
[09:09 am] mikewd2 -: CMG lod, puts outweight calls on CMG
[09:11 am] scalpman  : Time to go...goodbye all. Thanks for great calls from TSA and chat room
[09:12 am] joeytsa  : CMG concensus estimate is $2.30,  whisper is $2.34
[09:12 am] eddy  : nFLX moving down
[09:12 am] scalpman  : Scalpman has left the building!
[09:12 am] joeytsa  : bye scalp
[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: when is earnings
[09:12 am] qwert  : this afternoon on cmg i think
[09:12 am] qwert  : afternoon i think
[09:13 am] joeytsa  : yeah 1PDT
[09:13 am] joeytsa  : 1pm PDT for CMG
[09:14 am] taco  : bye scalp
[09:14 am] joeytsa  : they got shellacked last earnings i think
[09:14 am] joeytsa  : and never closed that gap down
[09:14 am] mikewd2 -: 285 calls/puts are really expensive that expire tomrw.
[09:14 am] mikewd2 -: 12-13 bucks
[09:14 am] joeytsa  : still cheaper than the stock
[09:15 am] joeytsa  : if you want to play the report
[09:15 am] taco  : AEGR might be turning
[09:16 am] mikewd2 -: come to papa OEH
[09:17 am] murano  : AMRN
[09:17 am] joeytsa  : looks good murano
[09:17 am] go4it  : die OEH DIE!
[09:19 am] reshef  : ETP
[09:19 am] taco  : thanks murano, nice
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: AMRN popped to 15day resistance area
[09:22 am] mikewd2 -: out 1/2 posiiton on OEH
[09:22 am] taco  : nice mike, what is your entry?
[09:24 am] mikewd2 -: i think my avg price was 12.43
[09:24 am] mikewd2 -: did multiple buys
[09:24 am] joeytsa  : great job mike
[09:24 am] mikewd2 -: or sells rather
[09:25 am] Ed : nice mike
[09:25 am] mikewd2 -: stop moved down to 12.77
[09:25 am] mikewd2 -: 11.77
[09:27 am] go4it  : die OEH DIE!
[09:28 am] mikewd2 -: closed another 1/4
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: moved final lot stop to 11.42
[09:33 am] go4it  : out half 11.15
[09:33 am] joeytsa  : im guessing, ummm bad??
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: nice go4it, what was entry?
[09:34 am] joeytsa  : ES dropping too
[09:34 am] mikewd2 -: Amarin strength attributed to pervious comments in peer review journal
[09:34 am] go4it  : average 12.25
[09:34 am] mikewd2 -: very nice patience
[09:34 am] joeytsa  : really nice bruce !!!
[09:34 am] mikewd2 -: been worried that they might announce something again
[09:34 am] joeytsa  : but you didnt call it, so im not buying you lunch haha
[09:35 am] go4it  : trailing last 1/2 1%
[09:35 am] mikewd2 -: changed mine to trailing 20 cents
[09:36 am] mikewd2 -: CY L 10.10
[09:36 am] mikewd2 -: stop 9.97
[09:36 am] joeytsa  : GOOG losing $700
[09:37 am] eddy  : L CY 10.16 stop 9.97
[09:37 am] mikewd2 -: wow - big revenue and earnings miss
[09:37 am] joeytsa  : most big names dropping
[09:37 am] mikewd2 -: on GOOG
[09:37 am] joeytsa  : AAPL,AMZN,BIDU,SINA
[09:38 am] joeytsa  : down $75..huge drop
[09:39 am] go4it  : die OEH DIE!
[09:39 am] go4it  : next target 10.84
[09:40 am] ticktrader  : GOOG Earnings are 9.03 versus 10.65 expectations
[09:40 am] Ed : i think i will retire
[09:40 am] joeytsa  : out OEH
[09:40 am] Ed : sweet
[09:40 am] Ed : changed my mind
[09:40 am] joeytsa  : :)
[09:41 am] qwert  : Ed are you trading goog
[09:41 am] go4it  : me too joey stopped out but great ride!
[09:42 am] eddy  : FB moving with GOOG
[09:42 am] joeytsa  : i got in real late
[09:42 am] Ed : yes
[09:43 am] joeytsa  : GOOG is sweet
[09:43 am] qwert  : did you short and now long
[09:43 am] Ed : yes
[09:43 am] mikewd2 -: waited to long on GOOG calls, dang
[09:43 am] joeytsa  : out GOOG for now
[09:44 am] qwert  : great trading  where did you short at
[09:44 am] Ed : when it lose 705
[09:44 am] joeytsa  : i went long
[09:45 am] qwert  : nice joey where did you go long
[09:45 am] Ed : reversed it at  680.91
[09:45 am] joeytsa  : nice short Ed, wanted to didnt trust it
[09:45 am] taco  : great trade guys
[09:45 am] joeytsa  : ES bear cup at 1454
[09:45 am] Ed : thx joey
[09:46 am] mikewd2 -: all out OEH
[09:46 am] murano  : DISH
[09:46 am] Ed : seems like we got overreaction
[09:46 am] joeytsa  : sure did..thats why i love earnings
[09:46 am] Ed : mee 2
[09:46 am] joeytsa  : over-reactions are the only time we have an advantage
[09:46 am] Ed : they all should release during market hours
[09:47 am] joeytsa  : no kidding
[09:47 am] Ed : ironically having issue so far with 705
[09:47 am] joeytsa  : you can get multi-point moves on these
[09:47 am] eddy  : anyone long dish?
[09:48 am] joeytsa  : might be more downside once mainstreet people get the news
[09:48 am] Ed : hey qwert just noticed goog bounced off one of those regression lines
[09:48 am] qwert  : yeah nice
[09:49 am] taco  : good call murano dish
[09:50 am] joeytsa  : Ed, not sure the markets/internet could handle it if earnings were released during market hours
[09:50 am] mikewd2 -: missed entry on DISH, nice call murano
[09:50 am] Ed : but it would be soo much fun for daytraders
[09:51 am] joeytsa  : heck yeah..maybe what they could do is stagger the release for all the bigger/popular companies
[09:51 am] joeytsa  : let the crappy ones report after hours "_
[09:52 am] mikewd2 -: great, just bought calls on GOOG
[09:52 am] Ed : yep
[09:53 am] joeytsa  : wierd that it halted there
[09:53 am] joeytsa  : in related news, GOOG ceo's heart halted on the earnings miss  ;)
[09:53 am] qwert  : why is it halted
[09:54 am] Ed : order flow must be large
[09:54 am] Ed : clogging the system
[09:54 am] Ed : let me check
[09:54 am] joeytsa  : funny, L3 looks very light??
[09:54 am] Ed : yea it was
[09:55 am] joeytsa  : must be a glitch, very small orders showing
[09:55 am] joeytsa  : 3 shares, 6 shares etc
[09:55 am] qwert  : whats the website for halts used to have it bookmarked but dont have it now
[09:55 am] joeytsa  : AAPL lod
[09:55 am] joeytsa  : ES testing 1454 pivot area again
[09:56 am] Ed : thinks its http://www.nasdaqtrader.com
[09:56 am] qwert  : thanks i googled it
[09:58 am] Ed : weird cant get page yet
[09:58 am] Ed : tried on 3 systems
[09:58 am] joeytsa  : yeah it redirected
[09:58 am] qwert  : i cant either must be super busy
[09:59 am] Ed : seems like markeets should be down quite a bit more
[10:00 am] mikewd2 -: AMRN nice short, just missed my entry
[10:01 am] mikewd2 -: murano, what scanner do you use?
[10:01 am] go4it  : made my day:)
[10:01 am] mikewd2 -: no got stopped on that 20 cent bump a few mintues ago
[10:01 am] Ed : glad to hear bruce
[10:01 am] mikewd2 -: mine to
[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: DISH heading back up
[10:03 am] murano  : 36.01 was a 52 week high on DISH
[10:03 am] go4it  : I'm still in PDCO
[10:05 am] mikewd2 -: sounding like GOOG earnings release was mistake?
[10:08 am] Ed : they are doing great job keep the dow almost flat
[10:11 am] qwert  : T1 halt google requested
[10:11 am] mikewd2 -: company requested the halt
[10:11 am] Ed : thx
[10:12 am] eddy  : Mike you may swing CY?
[10:13 am] taco  : i've kinda been waiting for Chris and Brent to pop back into the room.. did they leave for good?
[10:13 am] lisas  : yes
[10:13 am] go4it  : BIDU
[10:14 am] Ed : they have moved on taco
[10:14 am] taco  : nice
[10:14 am] mikewd2 -: thought they were on an extended vacation maybe
[10:14 am] Ed : that too
[10:14 am] taco  : i'll deal with abandonment issues..
[10:15 am] taco  : ;)
[10:15 am] mikewd2 -: eddy you see the extra penny saved us on CY stop
[10:16 am] eddy  : i actually lowered my stop to 9.96
[10:16 am] eddy  : and bought more at 10.01
[10:16 am] eddy  : i might swing it
[10:16 am] mikewd2 -: FB lod
[10:17 am] qwert  : rrd
[10:17 am] mikewd2 -: remember we don't suppose to turn day trades into swings. but might work out.
[10:17 am] qwert  : alert rrd
[10:17 am] mikewd2 -: I'm thinking issue with CY is that they must not have chips in iphone anymore.
[10:19 am] eddy  : so wat would you do ?no swing?
[10:20 am] mikewd2 -: not saying that, needed to have plan in place before you bought
[10:20 am] eddy  : hopefully will make a profit on it tonite
[10:20 am] mikewd2 -: i will close mine today regardless
[10:21 am] mikewd2 -: thanks Ed
[10:22 am] Ed : no problem, sounds little strange, truth will come out Im sure
[10:22 am] joeytsa  : yep
[10:22 am] mikewd2 -: kinda of wish i had puts instead of calls though!
[10:22 am] Ed : but what do i know, I just work here
[10:23 am] mikewd2 -: 9.95 support on RRD?
[10:23 am] qwert  : thats where i was looking mike
[10:23 am] mikewd2 -: had a buy at 10.00 until Ed read the news.
[10:24 am] mikewd2 -: canceled it
[10:25 am] qwert  : nice bounce
[10:25 am] joeytsa  : even if they reported it early, that doesnt change the #
[10:25 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, but GOOG officers missed there opportunity to buy puts - haha
[10:25 am] joeytsa  : hahah
[10:25 am] qwert  : exactly still a crappy quarter
[10:25 am] qwert  : hahaha
[10:26 am] taco  : lol
[10:26 am] joeytsa  : there is still time :)
[10:28 am] taco  : rrd are the ones who let the google news out early
[10:29 am] mikewd2 -: getting a little bounce on CY
[10:31 am] joeytsa  : glad im not in this halt
[10:31 am] mikewd2 -: unfinished report - didn't have quote from Larry
[10:32 am] mikewd2 -: GOOG lost 19B in market cap - nice
[10:34 am] joeytsa  : ES between S1/PP past 30 minutes  1431-1454 area
[10:34 am] joeytsa  : 1451, not 1431
[10:35 am] joeytsa  : MLNX nice break
[10:35 am] Ed : we need another news event
[10:35 am] joeytsa  : been a great day, lots of moves
[10:35 am] mikewd2 -: agree joey, one of my best profit days in the room
[10:36 am] joeytsa  : good to hear mike.you have been on fire lately
[10:36 am] joeytsa  : just no more daytrades that turn into swings :)
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, but having to change my plans of only trading first and last hour.
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: not me! learned my lesson
[10:36 am] joeytsa  : only times you really need to trade
[10:37 am] joeytsa  : whats sad is that most of the ones that traders turn into swings are the losing trades
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: would have missed short on OEH
[10:37 am] joeytsa  : then they sell them at break even
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: definitely, can't remember holding a day trade winner over
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: breakeven would have been great - lol
[10:38 am] taco  : ya exactly mike
[10:38 am] joeytsa  : but makes no sense
[10:38 am] mikewd2 -: i knew better
[10:38 am] mikewd2 -: hated to take the loss, hoping it will come back.
[10:38 am] mikewd2 -: not smart at all
[10:38 am] joeytsa  : you let them take your money hostage and then when you finally have the chance to make a profit..these traders sell at break even
[10:39 am] mikewd2 -: but I'm done with that! never again
[10:39 am] joeytsa  : good for you,  me either
[10:39 am] mikewd2 -: RIG
[10:40 am] eddy  : another earning miss for RIG?
[10:40 am] mikewd2 -: don't see anything on the wire yet
[10:41 am] mikewd2 -: Transocean says backlog associated with new contracts, extensions about $8.1B
[10:41 am] mikewd2 -: news from early this morning
[10:41 am] mikewd2 -: BP down also
[10:42 am] go4it  : Thanks Qwert for RRD alert icing on cake for today
[10:42 am] mikewd2 -: HAL starting to fall
[10:42 am] Ed : nice going bruce
[10:42 am] qwert  : :))
[10:43 am] joeytsa  : nice bruce, i stayed out of that one
[10:43 am] joeytsa  : the CL staying fairly flat
[10:44 am] joeytsa  : been hovering around $92 for a while now
[10:44 am] joeytsa  : lunchtime,  see you all in about 30
[10:55 am] mikewd2 -: SPY lod
[10:58 am] mikewd2 -: die RIG
[11:05 am] qwert  : Ed what is the difference between the rig chart how it says 5 days and the bp chart that says dynamic right after the symbols
[11:09 am] Ed : it just set for fuutres on dynamic
[11:09 am] qwert  : All mine say dynamic that i am using for stocks should i change that
[11:11 am] mikewd2 -: WCC
[11:12 am] joeytsa  : WCC been a mover all day
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: the 100k vol spike was a few minutes ago, didn't see the time
[11:13 am] shark  : did PCLN release earnings too?
[11:14 am] joeytsa  : mike: on WCC?
[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: yeah
[11:14 am] joeytsa  : hmm, i dont see a 100k vol anywhere
[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: i hope goog opens again before my options expire tomrw.
[11:14 am] shark  : CMG up next.....
[11:14 am] joeytsa  : except premarket
[11:15 am] joeytsa  : i heard that GOOG was supposed to trade again b4 the bell
[11:15 am] Ed : did a birdie tell you
[11:15 am] shark  : I don't mind it early...then we can all go home early
[11:15 am] joeytsa  : thought i heard that on cnbc
[11:15 am] mikewd2 -: he called his p90x buddy Larry!
[11:15 am] Ed : lol
[11:16 am] joeytsa  : yep, told him to "BRING IT"
[11:18 am] joeytsa  : GOOG rev was $11B or put another way, $5.2M/hr
[11:18 am] Ed : ouuuuuuuuuuuuuch
[11:18 am] taco  : wowserz
[11:18 am] joeytsa  : i would work 2 hours and call it a year :)
[11:19 am] taco  : doesnt Ed make that here?
[11:19 am] Ed : i want more so would work 24 hours then call it quits
[11:19 am] shark  : :)
[11:19 am] shark  : lol
[11:19 am] mikewd2 -: yeah me too Ed
[11:19 am] joeytsa  : ppan would work 24hrs, then another 24hrs  etc etc  hahah
[11:19 am] taco  : i'm looking for three nice 1% moves a day for now
[11:20 am] Ed : no taco i make .000000001 every 24 hours
[11:20 am] shark  : x 5.4M?
[11:20 am] taco  : whatever makes you happy Ed
[11:20 am] taco  : glad you are here:)
[11:20 am] Ed : its mutual, glad you are here also
[11:21 am] joeytsa  : you can feel the love here
[11:21 am] taco  : lol
[11:21 am] shark  : RR Donnelly statement  to public: "oops"
[11:21 am] joeytsa  : OOPS =  Out Our Puts Suckers  :)
[11:21 am] mikewd2 -: yeah!
[11:22 am] Ed : good one
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : :)
[11:22 am] shark  : lol
[11:34 am] mikewd2 -: seems odd to provide results 4 hours early to PR company anyway.
[11:34 am] shark  : yeah
[11:34 am] mikewd2 -: they might know a senator where inside trading is legal - lol
[11:35 am] shark  : "laundering" their earnings report
[11:35 am] mikewd2 -: campaign money for obama
[11:36 am] shark  : CMG has $12 ATM premium on Oct options.
[11:36 am] mikewd2 -: sudden drop in spy
[11:36 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, that's what i saw this morning early
[11:36 am] mikewd2 -: jump in vix
[11:37 am] joeytsa  : crude right back to $92
[11:37 am] joeytsa  : nice dump in AEGR
[11:38 am] shark  : so what's the rule on halting? I thought it was just for an hour.
[11:39 am] joeytsa  : not sure
[11:39 am] mikewd2 -: not sure when company requests
[11:40 am] mikewd2 -: decent move in VRNG today
[11:42 am] joeytsa  : http://nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=TradeH alts
[11:42 am] joeytsa  : that link gets you to the current halts
[11:43 am] shark  : 315 call vs 250 put -highest open interest CMG
[11:43 am] joeytsa  : whisper is 4cents higher than concensus
[11:43 am] shark  : thx, joey
[11:44 am] joeytsa  : posted it earlier, you might have been gone
[11:44 am] shark  : too bad no options trading after hours on earnings day
[11:44 am] joeytsa  : think it was $2.30 with whisper at $2.34
[11:44 am] shark  : :)
[11:45 am] shark  : I see Cramer going deep undercover to get some insider tips on earnings in Oil sector
[11:46 am] shark  : hahaha
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : with his orange hat on  haha
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : i like him though
[11:47 am] joeytsa  : his favorite trading book is actually not a trading book, but a horseracing handicapping book
[11:47 am] shark  : ;)
[11:47 am] shark  : confessions? or which?
[11:47 am] joeytsa  : picking winners by andrew beyer
[11:48 am] joeytsa  : i have an original copy here
[11:49 am] shark  : cool :0
[11:49 am] shark  : :)
[11:53 am] joeytsa  : anyone ever read " strategies for the online daytrader" by gonzalez and rhee??
[11:53 am] joeytsa  : its dated, but helped me in the beginning
[11:54 am] shark  : I'm still waiting for Ed's book
[11:54 am] joeytsa  : yeah me 2
[11:54 am] Ed : "how to make the doughnuts"
[11:54 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on CY, dumb trade!
[11:54 am] shark  : "how to make dough, while going nuts"?
[11:55 am] Ed : i like it
[11:55 am] joeytsa  : you tried
[11:55 am] joeytsa  : if you can find that book cheap, its worth a read, esp for newer traders...
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : all examples are in fractions though, and they spend time on L2,  but do focus on time/sales
[11:57 am] taco  : oh ya?
[11:57 am] eddy  : bye all
[11:58 am] Ed : c ya eddy
[11:58 am] taco  : bue eddy. good trades
[11:58 am] joeytsa  : its basic, would only buy it if you find it really cheap and feel like reading something from the dotcom era
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : meaning that its nothign earth-shaking
[11:59 am] taco  : having a look around..
[11:59 am] taco  : ok
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : didnt get the greatest reviews on amazon
[11:59 am] taco  : got little signs up in my office now tho
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : just going thru my copy, i had a bunch of things highlighted
[12:00 pm] taco  : hoping to stabalize the cowboy trader in me
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : like this sentence...
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : " if discipline does not make you take losses, then the depletion of your capital will"
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: may not open until tomrw on GOOG
[12:01 pm] elisha  : like that sentence
[12:01 pm] taco  : discipline will make me take losses?
[12:02 pm] elisha  : if you are following your rules
[12:02 pm] joeytsa  : as opposed to holding on and hoping for it to come back
[12:02 pm] taco  : right
[12:02 pm] taco  : gotya
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : here is another one i like...
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : " The day trader must learn to decipher news in day trading terms"
[12:04 pm] shark  : thx, Ed
[12:04 pm] taco  : ya like for that hotel earlier
[12:04 pm] mikewd2 -: 15 minutes, GOOG to trade
[12:05 pm] shark  : you are well connected, Ed
[12:05 pm] elisha  : a little birdie told him
[12:05 pm] Ed : i use a cup with string attached, surprised it still works
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : AEGR still jumping
[12:05 pm] shark  : lol
[12:06 pm] joeytsa  : now anyone have an idea which way GOOG jumps
[12:06 pm] taco  : both
[12:06 pm] shark  : 1st trade up, then down more
[12:06 pm] mikewd2 -: would like a jump so i can dump my options
[12:06 pm] Ed : it will have volatility
[12:06 pm] mikewd2 -: then will switch to puts
[12:07 pm] joeytsa  : i guess it depends on how many orders are backlogged
[12:07 pm] taco  : yes
[12:07 pm] shark  : I'm using cups with fiber optic cable
[12:07 pm] Ed : i need to upgrade
[12:07 pm] shark  : haha
[12:07 pm] joeytsa  : i thought sharks just sensed vibrations in the water :)
[12:07 pm] shark  : :)
[12:07 pm] taco  : still got your fin shark?
[12:08 pm] shark  : we've upgraded
[12:08 pm] taco  : trying to outlaw shark fin soup in canada
[12:08 pm] shark  : I'm all for that, taco
[12:08 pm] shark  : can't outlaw tacos, though :(
[12:08 pm] taco  : i'm hard shelled, no one likes that kind
[12:08 pm] shark  : soft is in ;)
[12:09 pm] go4it  : htats not what she said
[12:09 pm] joeytsa  : the best is when you wrap a soft shell around a crunchy shell
[12:09 pm] shark  : consider options if you want to trade GOOG
[12:09 pm] shark  : limit risk on longs AND shorts
[12:10 pm] joeytsa  : ES trying to bounce
[12:10 pm] shark  : are those the same guys that are dumping stock, Mitch?
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : wonder if you can get an option trade in quick enough?
[12:11 pm] shark  : sure....
[12:11 pm] murano  : KO
[12:11 pm] shark  : with some volatility premium
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : are you doing both put and call?
[12:12 pm] shark  : :)
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : same strike?
[12:12 pm] shark  : what do you suggest?
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : i would think the 690's would be most volatile??
[12:13 pm] mikewd2 -: it worked for me on CYMI yesterday
[12:13 pm] mikewd2 -: but they were cheap, worth the risk
[12:13 pm] shark  : ATM, yes
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : conservative approach would be calls at 700, puts 680..and hope for a big swing
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : not sure thats worth it though
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : i only live in vegas..doesnt mean i gamble  ;)
[12:14 pm] shark  : I'm looking for the trend
[12:14 pm] shark  : then will ck premium and buy and/or sell
[12:14 pm] joeytsa  : gotya
[12:15 pm] joeytsa  : anything else i guess is just a guess
[12:15 pm] joeytsa  : AAPL lod
[12:15 pm] mikewd2 -: 6 minutes to post!
[12:15 pm] joeytsa  : :)
[12:15 pm] joeytsa  : thats what it feels like mike
[12:15 pm] mikewd2 -: the trades are being entered into the queues
[12:16 pm] shark  : :)
[12:16 pm] joeytsa  : this is going to be more like a quarter-horse race than a thoroughbred
[12:16 pm] shark  : the biggest piece of info missing is the guidance
[12:16 pm] mikewd2 -: I'm not too worried i only have 3 calls at 700
[12:16 pm] shark  : which won't be released until after hours
[12:16 pm] shark  : so position accordingly
[12:17 pm] joeytsa  : yeah mike, your risk is locked in/limited
[12:17 pm] mikewd2 -: yes, might average down if really drops
[12:17 pm] mikewd2 -: if really cheap
[12:17 pm] joeytsa  : just dont hit the double-down button  haha
[12:18 pm] shark  : when did you put that on, mike?
[12:18 pm] mikewd2 -: just glad i didn't go deep in the money calls
[12:18 pm] mikewd2 -: after the bounce to 705 and then on the fall
[12:18 pm] joeytsa  : i wouldnt either for daytrading
[12:18 pm] shark  : ditto, that joey
[12:18 pm] joeytsa  : Deep ITM are better on swings/longer holds
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : delta aroudn 80
[12:19 pm] victor51  : Thanks Murano for another win DISH short
[12:19 pm] mikewd2 -: UVXY has been good trader today
[12:19 pm] murano  : I was trying to make up for the bad idea I posted yesterday
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : haha
[12:20 pm] joeytsa  : you are off the hook murano..you do real good work
[12:20 pm] murano  : Thanks
[12:20 pm] shark  : there you go, mike
[12:20 pm] joeytsa  : shark: bounced rigth off the 680 level
[12:22 pm] taco  : what a battle
[12:23 pm] mikewd2 -: options a bit more expensive than when i originally bought
[12:23 pm] shark  : more volatile, yeah
[12:23 pm] mikewd2 -: run goog run
[12:23 pm] shark  : hitting range top
[12:23 pm] shark  : from 3min ago
[12:24 pm] shark  : conference call will put this all together
[12:25 pm] shark  : GOOG 715 calls long .80 to 2.10, all out
[12:25 pm] joeytsa  : nice
[12:25 pm] Ed : nice shark
[12:25 pm] taco  : wow
[12:25 pm] Ed : we need another flush, to get the blood going
[12:26 pm] mikewd2 -: i was up $2 bucks on my 700's and didn't pull the trigger
[12:26 pm] shark  : this looks range bound, mike
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: then my TS crashed
[12:27 pm] joeytsa  : crap
[12:32 pm] mikewd2 -: all out +3.20 per option
[12:32 pm] mikewd2 -: nice
[12:33 pm] Ed : nice mike, do u need to clean urself up
[12:33 pm] taco  : lol, nice mike)
[12:33 pm] lisas  : great job Mike.
[12:33 pm] mikewd2 -: haha, i should have sold just 2 and swing the other
[12:33 pm] lisas  : I'm sim trading this, sure makes everything else seem slow
[12:33 pm] mikewd2 -: it would have been free
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : fun day, Thanks Mitch, Ed, everyone
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : see you all tomorrow :)
[12:34 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:34 pm] taco  : c ya joey
[12:34 pm] elisha  : bye joey
[12:35 pm] lisas  : bye joey
[12:39 pm] Ed : Im sure a ton of mutual funds have goog in portfolio
[12:40 pm] Ed : not as easy for them to get out
[12:43 pm] mikewd2 -: looking to enter call again
[12:45 pm] Ed : more controled selling so far
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: GOOG being defended by barclays
[12:49 pm] mikewd2 -: sounds like most of reduction in earnings and revenues are from Motorola side.
[12:53 pm] Ed : GOOG should be nice play 2morrow as well
[12:57 pm] Ed : rejected at 700 again
[12:58 pm] mikewd2 -: dumped my calls another $2 point gain
[12:58 pm] Ed : nice mik
[12:58 pm] mikewd2 -: looking to reload for swing
[12:58 pm] Ed : mike
[01:00 pm] mikewd2 -: nice 8 point moves
[01:00 pm] taco  : c ya all in the am
[01:00 pm] lisas  : bye all
[01:10 pm] qwert  : bye everyone cya in the am
[01:10 pm] qwert  : wow cmg

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