Chat Highlights From 10/17/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching FFIV for bottom
[06:31 am] Mitch K: trades both ways today on CHKP
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching CHKP for bottom
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching FIRE for bottom to buy
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching VTR for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching CTSH for bottom to buy
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching DV for bottom to buy
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching URI for short, prefer little rebound first
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching TXT for top to short, top of this rebound, take time
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching WHR for top
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching NTRS for bottom to buy
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching AOS for top to short
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching CTXS for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching RVBD for bottom
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching APOL for bottom to buy
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching FIRE closer
[06:39 am] Mitch K: MTB top for short
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching NSC for bottom to buy
[06:41 am] Mitch K: monitoring VMW for trades
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching DGX for bottom
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching RHT for bottom
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching TIBX for top to short, missed bottom, wait a while
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching APH for 2nd helping short, missed first
[06:43 am] Mitch K: APOL bottoming
[06:43 am] Mitch K: mkt rebounding
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching AOS for top
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching ABT for bottom
[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching MLNX  for bottom
[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching ORLY for bottom to buy
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching FIRE closer
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching GGC
[06:51 am] Mitch K: ABT bottoming
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching TSCO for top, take time
[06:53 am] Mitch K: monitoring TKR
[06:56 am] Mitch K: watching RCL for top to short, no hurry
[06:56 am] Mitch K: watching ASML for bottom to buy
[06:58 am] Mitch K: consider reducing FIRE long
[06:58 am] Mitch K: also short on FFIV
[06:58 am] Mitch K: consider selling FFIV
[06:58 am] Mitch K: soon
[06:58 am] Mitch K: watching ASML for bottom
[06:59 am] Mitch K: VTR too weak for me
[07:00 am] Mitch K: consider FFIV short on top of this bounce,
[07:00 am] Mitch K: watching ASML closer
[07:00 am] Mitch K: watching CCL, same sector as RCL, cruise lines
[07:01 am] Mitch K: looking for sell exit on CTSH long
[07:02 am] Mitch K: CTXS toppy
[07:02 am] Mitch K: consider selling RVBD
[07:02 am] Mitch K: consider reducing or selling NTRS
[07:02 am] Mitch K: looking for sell exit on CTXS long, watching for top to short as well
[07:03 am] Mitch K: looking for just under $52 on ASML, be flexible
[07:03 am] Ed : let it run more
[07:03 am] Ed : advanced trade monitorng KR for potential short no hurry
[07:05 am] Mitch K: anytime on CTXS, best price to cover
[07:05 am] Mitch K: looking for cover point on CTXS short soon
[07:05 am] Mitch K: CTSH toppy
[07:05 am] Mitch K: monitoring DVN, no hurry
[07:07 am] Mitch K: consider reducing ASML, watch for pullback and then hgiher highs
[07:10 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[07:11 am] Mitch K: consider covering CTXS
[07:11 am] Mitch K: my last comment on ASML is a more advanced trading technique
[07:19 am] Mitch K: FFIV toppy
[07:19 am] Mitch K: what you have to understand about a quick trade like i was describing with ASML is you are trying to get a better price while protecting against losing all your profit.  if you think the stock is going to have a good bounce, you may want to avoid taking quick profit and buying at lower price.  but make sure you are decisive at getting back into it long when it starts rebounding up again
[07:20 am] Mitch K: SPY turning over
[07:21 am] Mitch K: ASML toppy
[07:22 am] Mitch K: consider selling VMW if long, short idea on rebound
[07:31 am] Mitch K: watchign TSCO for 2nd helping short
[07:32 am] Mitch K: watching VTR for sell point soon, consider reducing here if long
[07:37 am] Ed : pullback in SPY
[07:50 am] Ed : would like tad more selling though
[07:50 am] Ed : this is advanced trade monitoring ABT for potential bounce
[07:54 am] Ed : would like a move down to 67ish or low 68, not enough money for me at this level
[08:14 am] Ed : if u took ABT long would reduce some here
[08:17 am] Ed : Im trailing last 1/4 of ABT long
[08:20 am] Ed : and thats pretty tight trailn stop
[08:20 am] Ed : Im trailng last 1/4 of ABT long right behind the 10 simple moving avg.
[08:22 am] Mitch K: DOV really pumping out the trades today
[08:24 am] Ed : out all ABT long
[10:17 am] Ed : this is an advanced trade
[10:17 am] Ed : monitoring QCOR for potential long
[10:18 am] Ed : no news as of yet
[10:22 am] Ed : if ut ook QCOR long would reduce
[10:23 am] Ed : placing stop last 1/4 of QCOR above breakeven 23.03
[10:24 am] Ed : will trail last 1/4 QCOR long
[10:42 am] Mitch K: going to be a good bounce but you go in on several orders
[10:42 am] Mitch K: nice idea murano, start watching DG guys
[10:43 am] Mitch K: Dollar General is company
[10:44 am] Ed : nice one qwert on MLNX
[10:44 am] Mitch K: Dollar General, Family Dollar drop after Dollar Tree gives Q3 sales update
[10:45 am] Mitch K: DG that is
[10:45 am] Mitch K: no buy signal yet but should bounce pretty soon
[10:46 am] Mitch K: 47.70 is my target on DG but be flexible
[10:47 am] Mitch K: id sell some DG here
[10:50 am] Mitch K: faster chart on left
[10:50 am] Mitch K: DG charts
[10:52 am] Mitch K: DG weakening on left chart just a little,
[10:53 am] Mitch K: yes lisa, TOL has buy signal 3 min ago
[10:53 am] Mitch K: consider reducing more DG and look around for shares to short but short is dangerous at the moment, just get reservations
[10:54 am] Mitch K: best to wait for a formal sell signal on either chart
[10:54 am] Mitch K: ok see that black price there on the left chart?  really strong move, still strong on DG
[10:55 am] Mitch K: consider reducing DG
[10:55 am] Mitch K: not interested in TOL chart myself lisa
[10:55 am] Mitch K: is there anyone defending DG?
[10:56 am] Mitch K: id try a little short here for aggressive traders
[10:56 am] Mitch K: but no sell signal yet, lol
[10:56 am] Mitch K: consider selling all of DG
[10:56 am] Mitch K: thats a 6% move on DG
[10:57 am] Mitch K: no too late now, need a bounce on DG for short entry mike
[10:57 am] Mitch K: still time on short mike
[10:57 am] Mitch K: sell signal on left chart
[11:00 am] Mitch K: consider covering that short, got a buy signal on right,
[11:01 am] Mitch K: on FDO, DLTR, DG
[11:01 am] Mitch K: shark, i posted news
[11:01 am] Mitch K: i am experimenting with different settings,
[11:02 am] Mitch K: chart on left is MLNX
[11:02 am] Mitch K: consider covering DG short
[11:03 am] Mitch K: way too dangerous of strategy for me
[11:03 am] Mitch K: chingo, you trying for 2nd leg up on long side of DG?
[11:03 am] Mitch K: 1 min chart on left
[11:03 am] Mitch K: not recommending buying this but just showing
[11:04 am] Mitch K: preserve your profits now
[11:04 am] Mitch K: ching, DG has moved up $3 a share or 6.5% from the bottom,
[11:04 am] Mitch K: too risky chingo
[11:04 am] Mitch K: usually a buy here on DG chart fizzles out and you have a trade failure
[11:05 am] Mitch K: it doesnt mean your idea wouldnt work but the odds are low
[11:05 am] Mitch K: sold ok
[11:05 am] Mitch K: what is sod chingo
[11:06 am] Mitch K: you want to place the percentages, put odds on yourside
[11:06 am] Mitch K: you can have reasoning like Mr. Obama by saying “Well it worked” but the odds were fairly low.
[11:08 am] Mitch K: let me find a picture on the internet somewhere
[11:08 am] Mitch K: good lesson here, favorite work picture for this situation
[11:08 am] Mitch K: let me explain this a little more on a stock like DG
[11:10 am] Mitch K: when you have a stock or any instrument that moves up very quickly like DG . . . .
[11:10 am] Mitch K: ok see this plane
[11:11 am] Mitch K: so you can anticipate stocks like FDO and DG they will stall
[11:11 am] Mitch K: there is only so much energy right?  before it has to stop going up
[11:12 am] Mitch K: UNLESS it is different news, which we would have seen different behavior in teh stock.  if an analysts who defends the stock and says, something like we reiterate the target price of $66 for example and if it is a big named firm, it might give a little more energy to the stock
[11:13 am] Mitch K: pilot is still pointing upward but plane momentarily stays pointing up but is sliding backwards
[11:13 am] Mitch K: but my main point to this kind of action is it often stalls in an action that i call a tail slide.
[11:14 am] Mitch K: this is doing that same action only a little slower than my analogy of a tail slide
[11:14 am] Mitch K: so lets look at that etrade chart in that small dark blue chart
[11:15 am] Mitch K: its happening now and with Chingo’s idea of buying on a dip on a stock that went up really fast, isnt a great odds play
[11:15 am] Mitch K: did that analogy make sense on a tail slide?
[11:15 am] Mitch K: on the Lightning chart, you wont see a chart displayed quite like this, well maybe you can change the lightning chart
[11:16 am] Mitch K: chart on left is MLNX
[11:16 am] Mitch K: lets look at MLNX
[11:16 am] Mitch K: now if your chart looks like MLNX chart, no problem
[11:17 am] Mitch K: also, on those stocks that gap way down, you know we see 1-2 of those a day and i say in that first hour “trades both ways”  those are stocks you can do exactly that, clear obvious signals on lightning and you have lots of time to enter orders without having to be super fast
[11:21 am] Mitch K: chart on right is DG
[11:21 am] Mitch K: let me show you something else to finish up this lesson
[11:22 am] Mitch K: chingo, you see this?
[11:22 am] Mitch K: 2 min chart
[11:22 am] Mitch K: ok see this one, CHKP
[11:23 am] Mitch K: both ways
[11:23 am] Mitch K: ok this is the kind of chart action you can do what you were trying
[11:24 am] Mitch K: you dont need lightning to know this chingo
[11:24 am] Mitch K: all together now
[11:24 am] Mitch K: DG was a “reactionary” trade.  People saw it drop like us and just jumped on it.  what do you guys think most traders are going to do after a 5-6% rebound in 5 minutes?
[11:24 am] Mitch K: the traders are thinking differently on CHKP than what they were thinking on DG
[11:25 am] Mitch K: right, they are going to sell
[11:25 am] Mitch K: or 5-6%
[11:25 am] Mitch K: come on you guys, what do you think traders are going to do after making $2, 3, a share in 5 minutes?
[11:26 am] Mitch K: so you have the largest group of people trading DG that are long at that bottom area and it rebounded $3 a share or 6% and you can start anticipating that those guys who are profitable will start thinking of selling.  itchy finger to click sell button
[11:27 am] Mitch K: so stay with me on this and i am trying to get you, especially CHingo right now, to understand the mindset of those traders
[11:27 am] Mitch K: right?
[11:27 am] Mitch K: ok so now the momentum shifts with a larger percentage of people trading DG become sellers
[11:28 am] Mitch K: you bought here chingo
[11:28 am] Mitch K: on the DG chart, you still had most people shifting toward selling.
[11:29 am] Mitch K: sure it went up 30 cents on a $48 stock but you have to be thinking a little bit of what these people will do, anticipating
[11:30 am] Mitch K: did that make sense?
[11:30 am] Mitch K: so next time chingo, let it come back well toward the bottom before trying that, odds would have been better, the odds shift toward your side
[11:30 am] Mitch K: ok lets look at the $47 level on DG, it came back about half way of that bounce and now most of the selling is over, still some risk left to the downside but another clue is if you see that big of a move in the first place, a lot of buyers still on the sidelines, licking chops, or thinking they missed it or they can make money again
[11:31 am] Mitch K: make sense Chingo
[11:31 am] Mitch K: there are other people in these stocks and you generally want to know what kind of group behavior they are likely to engage in
[11:32 am] Mitch K: chingo, since you are a more active trader, use that technique on something like the CHKP chart
[11:33 am] Mitch K: i dont understand your question shark, decent scale in strategy?
[11:33 am] Mitch K: ok, clue is this…… in that first 30-45 minutes of the day and you see a chart like CHKP that got crushed from, in this case $47.50 to $41 in same day, you can use lightning very effectively to see this type of trading action.  this is when Lightning just shines, really does well
[11:34 am] Mitch K: oh ok, i like to tell people in a case like DG, where there was heavy selling pressure, stock dropping hard, that one single order is rarely going to be your best price.  plus your risk is lower by starting with smaller positions
[11:35 am] Mitch K: odds are you will get a better average price by dividing your planned position size in 3 orders, all limit orders
[11:36 am] Mitch K: but even then at that DG bottom on chart on right, still good to split it up
[11:36 am] Mitch K: a lot of this will not be necessary with the Lightning
[11:36 am] Mitch K: its ok to send 1 of the 3 orders as a market price just to make sure you get filled and in a position
[11:37 am] Mitch K: my intention and goal is to make you guys into some really good traders, highest win rates, good habits, best trading practices
[11:38 am] Mitch K: always remind yourself to be disciplined, ask yourself if this is a good idea BEFORE you click the mouse
[11:38 am] Mitch K: it isnt an ego statement on my part, I just think that is what i can contribute
[11:39 am] Mitch K: it helps me.  i found this sign on the back of my door that has been there for 9 years
[11:39 am] Mitch K: i have these little signs all over my office even after 19 years of trading
[11:40 am] Mitch K: Best Odds, Stay in Position Size, Be Aggressive and Decisive
[11:40 am] Mitch K: lol, it says:
[11:41 am] Mitch K: now how can you go wrong with that advice?
[11:42 am] Mitch K: write your own notes to yourself on problem areas you have had or still have
[11:43 am] Mitch K: you may not look like one but your brain is
[11:43 am] Mitch K: you are athletes
[11:43 am] Mitch K: this is a business, lets maximize revenue and reduce expenses
[11:45 am] Mitch K: im going to go out on a limb and say that if you are making money now trading that lightning will at least double your income, probably triple.  If you add futures to it and apply the same good practices, you should triple and then some
[11:45 am] Ed : now DG is being defended
[11:46 am] Mitch K: i bet that bounce off $47 was the defending timing
[12:12 pm] Ed : SPY having issue for now at horizontal resistance
[12:47 pm] Ed : SPY pulling back
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: later guys
[12:59 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders

[05:44 am] taco  : morning guys
[05:52 am] qwert  : good morning everybody
[05:52 am] qwert  : gm taco
[05:55 am] taco  : hey qwert
[06:04 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Mitch, everyone
[06:05 am] qwert  : gm joey
[06:06 am] joeytsa  : gap down: FTNT,APOL,CHKP,ISRG
[06:06 am] joeytsa  : gap up: CREE,QCOR,CHRW,CYMI( acq)
[06:07 am] qwert  : nice gap up on fslr as well
[06:07 am] joeytsa  : eye on AEGR, halted..fda meeting about new drug
[06:07 am] joeytsa  : thx qwert
[06:08 am] qwert  : :))
[06:08 am] joeytsa  : RIO,BPBHP gapping up also
[06:09 am] joeytsa  : BHP,BP  should have been a comma between them
[06:09 am] joeytsa  : IBM,SWK,STJ gapping down also
[06:10 am] taco  : thanks joey
[06:11 am] joeytsa  : no prob
[06:13 am] taco  : nice bear cup on IBM
[06:13 am] joeytsa  : hmmm, i dont see that
[06:14 am] taco  : oh no? 1 min?
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : gotya, now i see it  🙂
[06:14 am] taco  : ok, good
[06:14 am] taco  : for me that is
[06:15 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:15 am] taco  : hi lisas
[06:15 am] lisas  : Hi taco
[06:19 am] joeytsa  : mike is having issues getting into the room
[06:20 am] reshef  : G.m CYMI
[06:22 am] taco  : thanks reshef
[06:22 am] joeytsa  : just be careful, CYMI is an acquisition
[06:22 am] joeytsa  : posted that above
[06:22 am] taco  : k thanks
[06:23 am] taco  : r you looking at RATE? as well?
[06:23 am] taco  : Jopey
[06:23 am] taco  : joey
[06:24 am] joeytsa  : no volume
[06:24 am] joeytsa  : maybe later it might do something for me
[06:24 am] taco  : how much volume do you like to see?
[06:24 am] joeytsa  : the more the better, esp pre-market
[06:25 am] taco  : k
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : RATE has only traded 2600 shares
[06:25 am] apple  : good morning to all alert traders
[06:25 am] apple  : gm joey
[06:25 am] apple  : gm taco
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : hi apple
[06:25 am] apple  : gm reshef
[06:25 am] taco  : hi apple
[06:25 am] apple  : gm khall
[06:26 am] apple  : gm lisa
[06:26 am] apple  : gm mike
[06:26 am] elisha  : GM Mitch, Ed and everyone
[06:26 am] apple  : gm ellisha
[06:26 am] apple  : gm MK
[06:26 am] elisha  : gm apple
[06:27 am] apple  : CL just took a little drop
[06:27 am] khall  : gm all
[06:28 am] ticktrader  : Good Morning Mitch, Ed and all traders
[06:28 am] chinhngo  : good morning
[06:28 am] apple  : gm chin
[06:28 am] lisas  : gm apple
[06:28 am] apple  : gm tick
[06:29 am] chinhngo  : gm apple
[06:29 am] apple  : bidu
[06:29 am] ticktrader  : GM Apple
[06:29 am] apple  : wrong screen
[06:31 am] joeytsa  : taco: did you take IBM short, nice quick one if you did
[06:32 am] shark  : watching FTNT
[06:33 am] apple  : gm shark
[06:34 am] shark  : 🙂 hi apple
[06:35 am] taco  : i got it long actually
[06:35 am] taco  : thank you for the early set ups
[06:35 am] joeytsa  : nice, both moves were quick
[06:36 am] khall  : good trade taco
[06:36 am] apple  : big drop in ES, GC and CL all together now…
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : APOL trying to bottom,
[06:37 am] shark  : housing strong DHI, KBH, LEN
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : yeah shark, housing starts # was up
[06:38 am] joeytsa  : 0.87M with 0.77M forecast
[06:38 am] apple  : thx joey, shark
[06:39 am] joeytsa  : VMW trying to bottom
[06:40 am] joeytsa  : great rebound on ISRG after earnings gap down
[06:41 am] joeytsa  : AAPL nice bounce off bottom
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : watching FFIV for a break lower
[06:48 am] joeytsa  : or a break higher i guess haha
[06:49 am] apple  : either way joey
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : as long as it breaks
[06:51 am] joeytsa  : Mitch, beauty of a call on URI
[06:56 am] apple  : wow on URI!
[07:08 am] mikewd2 -: URI consolidating
[07:10 am] victor51  : gm all
[07:12 am] apple  : hey victor
[07:13 am] mikewd2 -: Russell moving up today
[07:16 am] eddy  : hi all
[07:16 am] apple  : hey eddy
[07:16 am] apple  : gm E
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : DECK spike down
[07:18 am] khall  : MLNX nice call
[07:21 am] taco  : thx joey, got it
[07:21 am] elisha  : thx MK
[07:21 am] taco  : youre my new best bud)
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : 🙂
[07:22 am] joeytsa  : stick with Mitch, he actually tells you how to trade them 🙂
[07:22 am] scalpman  : Cover 1/2 DECK L
[07:22 am] taco  : yes of course, just had some good calls when i look at the room is all. thnx
[07:23 am] joeytsa  : dont jinx me, i might throw in a clunker haha
[07:23 am] taco  : lol
[07:24 am] scalpman  : stopped on 2nd half DECK and b.e.
[07:27 am] mikewd2 -: oil inventories coming up
[07:27 am] joeytsa  : thx for the reminder mike..nice to have you back 🙂
[07:27 am] Ed : thx
[07:27 am] mikewd2 -: URI moving up off consolidation
[07:28 am] mikewd2 -: watching for top in WLT
[07:29 am] mikewd2 -: out URI L, +0.62
[07:30 am] apple  : drop in CL
[07:30 am] mikewd2 -: 2.86Mbbls rise
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : crude inv came in double what was expected
[07:31 am] apple  : thx mike and joey
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : thats happened on a couple reports this week
[07:36 am] joeytsa  : oil testing $92
[07:36 am] mikewd2 -: WLT turning
[07:37 am] eddy  : long UVXY 26.15
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : SWK making a nice pullback
[07:47 am] joeytsa  : ABT lod
[07:47 am] shawn  : getting nervous in TSCO
[07:48 am] joeytsa  : long or short shawn?
[07:48 am] shawn  : short
[07:48 am] joeytsa  : if you’re nervous, you might have too many shares
[07:50 am] joeytsa  : out ABT short,  break time
[07:50 am] joeytsa  : nice calls today, make some money
[07:50 am] Ed : nice short joey
[07:50 am] joeytsa  : thanks, hope you get the long while im gone
[07:51 am] Ed : dont know how i missed the short though, oh was not lookn at it
[07:52 am] apple  : pay attention E!
[07:52 am] Ed : one must have money to pay
[07:53 am] Ed : or is that to play
[07:53 am] khall  : yes to both 🙂
[07:54 am] elisha  : When you check the daily chart on a stock like ABT how long do you go back?
[07:54 am] shawn  : what do you think in TSCO
[07:54 am] Ed : i just keep loon back to potential levels of support
[07:55 am] Ed : loon=looking
[07:55 am] elisha  : thx Ed
[07:55 am] Ed : so areas to watch, see how stock reacts
[07:56 am] Ed : we can draw many, we jus monitor action, we monitor price and vol
[07:56 am] Ed : thats what is called price action
[07:57 am] Ed : u look at areas of consolidation, gaps, moving avg. as example
[07:57 am] elisha  : thx again
[07:58 am] Ed : key is never fixating on a particular area, as it can go right threw, or stop right on it
[07:58 am] elisha  : writing this dowm Ed
[07:58 am] elisha  : dowm =down
[07:59 am] elisha  : you don’t know it but you’re helping me write my trading rules
[07:59 am] scalpman  : Sell  1/2 ABT  L
[07:59 am] Ed : nice elisha
[07:59 am] Ed : also this is advanced, due to fact ur going against overall trend
[08:00 am] scalpman  : @ 68.69
[08:00 am] scalpman  : sorry 69.00
[08:02 am] Ed : then elisha if stock continues down through those levels, just look for next potential area of support, same for an upside move
[08:03 am] Ed : see how daily comes into play, for day trading
[08:03 am] Ed : thats where u get ur overall levels from
[08:04 am] murano  : FB
[08:04 am] scalpman  : Sell another 1/4 ABT L
[08:04 am] elisha  : thx Ed, writing as fast as i can
[08:04 am] scalpman  : @ 69.0
[08:04 am] reshef  : Hi Ed, Only simulate today, the deciplin with support and ressitent wite you leason work very good
[08:05 am] apple  : watching CERN
[08:05 am] Ed : potential areas of support/resistance. I like using potential, that lets me know that has the possibility
[08:06 am] eddy  : all out UVXY +1%
[08:06 am] Ed : nice trade eddy
[08:06 am] eddy  : thx ED
[08:06 am] qwert  : elisha if you right click on the chat box you can copy chat history so you wont have to write everything down right now
[08:06 am] scalpman  : All out ABT L…
[08:06 am] Ed : that way I dont get fixated on an area and if price goes through not looking dumb founded
[08:07 am] Ed : all about being flexible
[08:07 am] eddy  : FB shortable Ed?
[08:07 am] eddy  : or is it too late now?
[08:07 am] apple  : yoga helps
[08:07 am] scalpman  : NAV watch for s
[08:07 am] Ed : FB is only good for short quick scalps, better money on longside
[08:08 am] elisha  : qwert, where exactly on chat box?
[08:08 am] Ed : look for pullbacks
[08:08 am] eddy  : k
[08:08 am] elisha  : qwert, where exactly on chat box?
[08:08 am] Ed : its starting to get some momentum from buyers on 15min cahrt
[08:08 am] elisha  : sorry
[08:08 am] qwert  : right side between the up and down arrows
[08:09 am] elisha  : thx qwert
[08:10 am] qwert  : sure thing
[08:10 am] Ed : good area eddy, speakn for me, if get pullback close to area of consolidation of 19.69 area, or if FB can put in some time in this area meaning consolidate for a while b4 breakn out again
[08:10 am] scalpman  : GMCR looks like a sWING for few weeks on the daily
[08:10 am] scalpman  : Long
[08:11 am] Ed : i would let it put some more work in since had nasty breakdown back in sept
[08:12 am] taco  : did anyone else get the daily stock report with sept 19th video last night?
[08:12 am] Ed : couple ways to play it, add small pilot trades as it clears areas on 15min chart, this is speakn of swing
[08:12 am] apple  : looks interesting scalp
[08:13 am] Ed : bet yea scalp does have potential
[08:14 am] scalpman  : URI has gap up on the and now breaking throught 38
[08:15 am] scalpman  : (daily)
[08:15 am] ticktrader  : Yes, Taco, the video was from 9/19, the commentary was yesterdays.
[08:16 am] taco  : thanks, just checking
[08:17 am] qwert  : same here taco
[08:17 am] scalpman  : CERN bounce causing conCERN
[08:18 am] qwert  : i just accidentally sold the rest of abt  instead of just part
[08:19 am] apple  : ooops
[08:19 am] Ed : blame it on me qwert, everyone else does
[08:19 am] scalpman  : probably ok move Qwert
[08:19 am] qwert  : yeah oops is right
[08:19 am] qwert  : hahaha
[08:20 am] scalpman  : ..overbought
[08:20 am] joeytsa  : nice job on ABT long Ed
[08:21 am] Ed : thx joey
[08:21 am] Ed : see how we used ifno from the daily on ABT elisha
[08:21 am] elisha  : yes
[08:22 am] qwert  : where is the 10 at ed i use an 8
[08:22 am] elisha  : you used a channel?
[08:22 am] elisha  : and s/r
[08:22 am] Ed : its the blue
[08:22 am] qwert  : thx ed
[08:23 am] Ed : i switch up, on the trailer, at times will use 20 or really tight the 10
[08:23 am] qwert  : you manually bump the stop
[08:24 am] joeytsa  : i use the 5ma, a bit too tight sometimes
[08:24 am] Ed : just eyeballing chart elisha, lookn for those thing u mentioned
[08:24 am] elisha  : are you talking ma when you say “the blue”?
[08:24 am] Ed : i was speaking to qwert on what i was using for trailn stop
[08:25 am] elisha  : I figured, is that ma you are talking about with the stops?
[08:26 am] Ed : thats more of preference, but sometimes for my last piece of positon in stock will use 10 or 20 moving avg. to trail
[08:26 am] elisha  : thx for clearin that up
[08:28 am] Ed : but i always take my 1st profits at the 1st level of support/resistance
[08:28 am] Ed : that keeps me balanced
[08:28 am] joeytsa  : shawn: if you are still in TSCO short, its touching some support, keep eye on it
[08:28 am] scalpman  : CHKP for S @ 41.50
[08:28 am] joeytsa  : good trading plan Ed
[08:29 am] Ed : i had to do that, cuz when i did not have a plan, i would get in trade see it move in my favor be up 800, and start dreaming about my next ferarri. then look and i would be in the whole
[08:29 am] joeytsa  : been there
[08:29 am] Ed : whole=hole
[08:30 am] joeytsa  : or whole lotta trouble 🙂
[08:30 am] Ed : yea
[08:30 am] taco  : copy that
[08:30 am] joeytsa  : i still need to learn to leg out of trades
[08:30 am] Ed : did it a many times before i said i need to develop something to help me with that
[08:31 am] scalpman  : JOey…use OCO….has stop and 2 or 3 limit orders for profit
[08:31 am] elisha  : i’ve been doing the math on my sim trades  – all in/out versus scaling and scaling so far has always won
[08:31 am] Ed : see sometimes i will scale out, and sometimes not, but taking my profit is always consistent no matter
[08:31 am] scalpman  : Kris used to take 1% 1/2 position and then 1/4 and then all out.
[08:32 am] joeytsa  : i have done that scalp
[08:32 am] joeytsa  : the thing is, i usually have a profit target, if it hits i get out and look for next entry
[08:32 am] Ed : just me personally I dont like using %, as it could hit .8% and turn down
[08:32 am] joeytsa  : same here Ed
[08:33 am] scalpman  : I use OCO for first 1/2. then cancel, and reset OCO on the 2nd half. That way you get 1/2  1/4 1/4
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : % means nothing to me
[08:33 am] Ed : yea that sounds good scalp
[08:33 am] taco  : what’s OCO?
[08:33 am] apple  : joey is show me the $$$
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : thats great for some traders
[08:33 am] scalpman  : Percent calc is easy in your head.
[08:33 am] Ed : true
[08:33 am] eddy  : Srpt looks like it is setting up for long
[08:34 am] scalpman  : 43.83     subtract 43 from 83 for 1%
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : yeah its easy, but so is eyeballing targets
[08:34 am] scalpman  : 1% = 43.40
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : every trader has their niche
[08:34 am] qwert  : i try to eyeball
[08:35 am] joeytsa  : i use risk reward, so if i am looking for 1%,  then my stop is .25%
[08:35 am] eddy  : Ed your views on SRPT please?
[08:35 am] elisha  : tace, check the “Q”, then ask – What is OCO?
[08:35 am] elisha  : tace = taco
[08:35 am] joeytsa  : taco:  OCO= one cancels other
[08:36 am] elisha  : thx
[08:36 am] scalpman  : Watch CHKP at 41.55-60
[08:36 am] joeytsa  : might have another definition also
[08:36 am] Ed : i dont see any edge, its a 50/50 trade. I dont like playn 50/50
[08:36 am] eddy  : OCO=order cancels order
[08:36 am] taco  : ah thanks guys
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: nice trend on MOS today
[08:37 am] ticktrader  : all out TSCO
[08:38 am] scalpman  : The oco puts 2 stop at (ex) .20 below entry. and limits at (ex) .30 and .50.  If the  limit is hit, the 1 stop is cancelled.
[08:38 am] scalpman  : It’s worth it to study it. Very useful
[08:38 am] joeytsa  : great tool
[08:39 am] taco  : thanks scalpman
[08:39 am] scalpman  : Welcome. Happy to share…
[08:40 am] scalpman  : CHKP getting closer…what do you think Ed
[08:40 am] ticktrader  : scalpman- Are you Tradestation user?
[08:41 am] qwert  : apol watching
[08:41 am] joeytsa  : its had troubles at 41.50 like you mentioned earlier
[08:41 am] joeytsa  : re: CHKP
[08:41 am] scalpman  : Yes…tick
[08:42 am] Ed : I would prefer it put in some time right at this price in small range for atleast couple more hours, without lows being taken out, would give better chance of moving off bottom
[08:42 am] scalpman  : Tradestation has “Hot Picks” which shows  “Rapidly Falling” , “Rapidly rising”  and “GapUp” and “down”
[08:42 am] khall  : It’s easy to set up OCO orders in Ninja as well via the ATM Strategy
[08:43 am] scalpman  : Yes true khall…Ninja has chart based order entry…tooo
[08:44 am] mikewd2 -: scalp, have you figured out away to filter the Rapidly Falling/Rising Hotlists?
[08:44 am] mikewd2 -: Would be nice to put a price or vol type limit to the picks.
[08:44 am] mikewd2 -: Unfortunately TS doesn’t provide the easy language for the hotlists..
[08:45 am] scalpman  : mike…I’ve asked the question to TS on the parameters, but so far the techies don’t know.  They know that it is there but not how it works.
[08:45 am] mikewd2 -: great
[08:45 am] apple  : haha, that’s too funny scalp
[08:45 am] scalpman  : It would be great to then use EL to set tighter parameters.
[08:46 am] mikewd2 -: yes, exactly
[08:46 am] scalpman  : It’s a black box to them apple.
[08:46 am] apple  : unbelievable, right?
[08:46 am] scalpman  : What I do is delete all columns by symbol, last and open and volume
[08:46 am] elisha  : scalp, what is EL?
[08:47 am] scalpman  : EAsy Language
[08:47 am] elisha  : thx
[08:47 am] scalpman  : that way you can’t check price and vol easily and check it action, filter through the stuff that would not work for us.
[08:48 am] scalpman  : I found DECK that way this morning for a small profit.
[08:48 am] scalpman  : CHKP hit 41/60
[08:48 am] scalpman  : 41.60
[08:48 am] elisha  : wow on DOV MK
[08:48 am] scalpman  : Sell signal on the 2 min
[08:48 am] joeytsa  : i forget, how often does the rapidly rising scan update?
[08:48 am] mikewd2 -: 2min
[08:49 am] scalpman  : make that 41.59…I have an order to sell at 41.60
[08:49 am] mikewd2 -: well its a 2min calculation
[08:49 am] joeytsa  : thats what i thought
[08:49 am] scalpman  : darn…I was talking and not paying attention
[08:49 am] joeytsa  : TSCO turned into a great short
[08:50 am] scalpman  : CHKP is pretty slow…I will let it go…as I am running out of time this morning.
[08:51 am] scalpman  : Joey , yes it did. Good call by Mitch
[08:52 am] joeytsa  : wish i took it
[08:52 am] ticktrader  : I took TSCO but sold out too early
[08:53 am] scalpman  : It had a slow decline and didn’t break til 11:30 est.
[08:53 am] scalpman  : (patience)….a great virtue
[08:53 am] joeytsa  : yeahm lost that support near 98.40
[08:54 am] scalpman  : GMCR a mover on the Hot picks
[08:55 am] apple  : hot picks where?
[08:55 am] scalpman  : The HOT Picks (TS) shows movers up and down. Often you miss the move., but you look for the one that have spike and then go for the reversal.
[08:56 am] mikewd2 -: there actually called HOT LISTS
[08:56 am] apple  : yeah, i got that have rapidly rising
[08:57 am] mikewd2 -: i keep up rapid rise and fallers, have GAPS for premarket evaluation
[08:57 am] scalpman  : There was my CHKP drop….I was glad to be right about it. for about .30 but didn’t trade.
[08:57 am] scalpman  : I had my order at 41.60 and it peaked at 41.58
[08:58 am] joeytsa  : spike on WLK
[08:58 am] joeytsa  : not huge
[08:58 am] scalpman  : …isn’t that unfair. Maybe Obama can pass a law…(ha)
[08:58 am] joeytsa  : looked bigger due to scaling
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : still had trouble at 41.50 though
[08:59 am] scalpman  : QLIK testing lod
[09:00 am] scalpman  : ..actually just support
[09:00 am] scalpman  : CYMI ready to fall….
[09:01 am] joeytsa  : WLK quick drop now
[09:02 am] mikewd2 -: what was the buyout price for CYMI?
[09:04 am] mikewd2 -: i found it, $20 + 1.1502 shares of ASML
[09:04 am] apple  : what a chopfest on the ES today after its initial climb
[09:07 am] scalpman  : HWD
[09:07 am] joeytsa  : not sure mike, but it had a huge gap up
[09:08 am] joeytsa  : agreed apple
[09:09 am] apple  : nice on HWD
[09:10 am] joeytsa  : HWD has a nice diamond biz going
[09:11 am] eddy  : SRPT
[09:11 am] scalpman  : SEll signal HWD 1 min
[09:12 am] murano  : JWN
[09:12 am] joeytsa  : WLT moved higher off cons
[09:12 am] joeytsa  : nice murano
[09:12 am] eddy  : ya nice but wat do we do with JWN now
[09:12 am] eddy  : long /short?
[09:14 am] Ed : too late for me, but what u do, is see if get test near that hod, without it getting taken out and see if get short setup
[09:18 am] scalpman  : JWN toppy
[09:20 am] scalpman  : DECK
[09:23 am] scalpman  : DECK dropping
[09:23 am] taco  : thx scalpman,
[09:23 am] scalpman  : opportunity
[09:23 am] taco  : yeah
[09:23 am] mikewd2 -: NFLX hod
[09:24 am] scalpman  : oh I am late…got to go.
[09:24 am] scalpman  : Bye
[09:24 am] taco  : c ya scalp
[09:25 am] Ed : c ya scalp
[09:25 am] joeytsa  : bye scalp
[09:25 am] taco  : i got 22% real profit from qcor
[09:25 am] taco  : very exciting for me
[09:25 am] Ed : nice taco
[09:26 am] taco  : for my retirement fund
[09:26 am] mikewd2 -: very nice
[09:26 am] taco  : 🙂
[09:26 am] qwert  : great job taco
[09:26 am] ticktrader  : Excellent Taco
[09:26 am] taco  : thank you thank you, won’t give it back next week
[09:26 am] joeytsa  : nice job taco
[09:27 am] joeytsa  : CYMI fell from one pivot to the next
[09:27 am] joeytsa  : nice $2 move there
[09:32 am] mikewd2 -: URI still moving higher
[09:32 am] Ed : hey eddy u see what i was talkn about for JWN
[09:34 am] eddy  : about wat exactly Ed?
[09:34 am] eddy  : was not on my desk just got back
[09:34 am] Ed : ur question u asked about taking JWN short
[09:34 am] Ed : i responded
[09:35 am] eddy  : yes i just scrolled back
[09:35 am] eddy  : i asked the question but had to move away
[09:35 am] qwert  : ed are you in jwn short
[09:35 am] Ed : no problem
[09:36 am] eddy  : did u trade JWN Ed?
[09:36 am] Ed : yes, being that i missed the 1st
[09:36 am] Ed : i only have 1/4 left
[09:36 am] qwert  : whats your entry and 1st tgt
[09:36 am] eddy  : in around 58?
[09:37 am] murano  : JWN hasn’t been able to take out 58.44, maybe today is the day.
[09:37 am] joeytsa  : see you all for the last hour or so
[09:37 am] Ed : i cheated, 58.11
[09:37 am] taco  : bye joey
[09:37 am] ticktrader  : cya Joey
[09:37 am] joeytsa  : nice entry Ed
[09:37 am] eddy  : indeed gd entry
[09:37 am] go4it  : Joey I went short on CYMI up 57% from yesterday on takeover info seewhat happens Thks
[09:37 am] Ed : did not see any buyers so did not mind placing there with stop set at 58.23
[09:38 am] joeytsa  : nice bruce !!!
[09:38 am] Ed : exited on 1st drop 3/4 position 57.79
[09:38 am] qwert  : 57.80 area for 1st tgt.
[09:38 am] Ed : yep
[09:38 am] qwert  : nice
[09:38 am] eddy  : gd trade ed
[09:39 am] Ed : thx
[09:39 am] taco  : thanks ed for info re trade
[09:39 am] Ed : no problem
[09:39 am] chinhngo  : ed what is second target to buy cover jwn ?
[09:40 am] Ed : Im trailng it chin right behind 10 moving avg
[09:42 am] chinhngo  : buy cover at 57.70
[09:44 am] Ed : nice trading chin
[09:45 am] taco  : at what level of trading should a trader subscribe to level II data?
[09:45 am] Ed : I dont use it taco
[09:46 am] taco  : what told you no buyers above JWN?
[09:46 am] taco  : for your stop
[09:46 am] Ed : vol. and using time & sales
[09:47 am] Ed : i hear many veteran traders say level II is obosolete
[09:47 am] taco  : what is time and sales please?
[09:48 am] Ed : it givves every print of buy/sell orders
[09:48 am] taco  : is that the ask/buy?
[09:50 am] Ed : thats it there taco
[09:50 am] taco  : i see thanks
[09:51 am] taco  : do only some brokers have that?
[09:51 am] taco  : im ninja/IB
[09:51 am] Ed : they should have it
[09:51 am] taco  : ok thank you
[09:52 am] Ed : this is modern day version of ticker tape
[09:53 am] Ed : tape is slow right now
[09:53 am] Ed : i mainly use it on breakouts, breakdowns and fast movers
[09:54 am] elisha  : what do the 2x#’s on the right side mean?
[09:54 am] Ed : size of orders
[09:54 am] elisha  : 2×1 is how many?
[09:54 am] elisha  : or 3×1?
[09:55 am] taco  : are they orders which have completed? or waiting to fill
[09:55 am] Ed : lets me know have more buyers than sellers, i dont care about the in between stuff
[09:55 am] taco  : ahh
[09:55 am] taco  : )
[09:56 am] regatta  : watching P
[09:56 am] mikewd2 -: P was just recommended as buy on CNBC
[09:57 am] Ed : reason i dont care about in between stuff is that it will not influence my trade if i know it or not
[09:57 am] apple  : it also came up on the hotlist
[09:57 am] Ed : basically keeping it simple
[09:58 am] taco  : right, thanks Ed
[09:59 am] go4it  : Joey you da man
[10:00 am] taco  : still short go4it?
[10:00 am] go4it  : yep
[10:00 am] taco  : haha nice
[10:01 am] go4it  : I owe Joey lunch next time I’m in Vegas haha
[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: yeah take him to one of those 2.99 buffets – lol
[10:02 am] Ed : yea i set mine up so that I dont have to interpret too much in fast paced environment, when it says 10 x 1, just by glancing and seeing that i know i have more buyers in tape and if it drops so going from 10 x 1   then 10 x1 to  1 x 20 then 1 x 20, I may have an issue if Im long as sellers have come in
[10:03 am] taco  : gotcha
[10:03 am] taco  : i can see the value for fast movers
[10:04 am] Ed : right thats why mostly use it for breakouts, breakdown and fast movers
[10:04 am] taco  : ya
[10:04 am] apple  : haha, mike, he doesn’t eat that stuff anymore
[10:05 am] mikewd2 -: yeah probably not to many $2.99 vegan buffets?
[10:06 am] apple  : he’s a cheaper date now…
[10:06 am] go4it  : I’ll take him to farmers market
[10:07 am] apple  : sounds good
[10:12 am] mikewd2 -: FIRE another leg down
[10:13 am] taco  : IBM going lower
[10:13 am] go4it  : my stop is 71.57 +.75 i’ll take it but still in for now
[10:15 am] chinhngo  : go4it you talk about cymi at 71.57 short ?
[10:17 am] go4it  : yes i’m short from 72.29
[10:17 am] apple  : QCOR has given some great trades lately
[10:19 am] go4it  : Apple I need it to come back above 29 before I show profit
[10:19 am] go4it  : tried catching the falling knife and got cut
[10:20 am] khall  : ouch
[10:20 am] go4it  : there it goes again 🙁
[10:20 am] apple  : ditto – ouch, ouch
[10:22 am] taco  : gorgeous
[10:22 am] taco  : chart that is
[10:22 am] apple  : i thought you meant me, taco
[10:22 am] taco  : not being hurt by it
[10:22 am] taco  : lol
[10:22 am] khall  : LOL apple
[10:23 am] mikewd2 -: was 3/7 and down a bunch, QCOR helped me get back to even
[10:23 am] apple  : good one mike
[10:23 am] taco  : nice
[10:24 am] mikewd2 -: Questcor moves lower on a cautious report by CitronResearch
[10:24 am] apple  : thx mike
[10:24 am] go4it  : cymi
[10:25 am] go4it  : oops
[10:25 am] apple  : there was a pivot at 24.17, another at 24.77
[10:26 am] Ed : nice going mike
[10:27 am] mikewd2 -: thanks Ed, needed that one
[10:27 am] mikewd2 -: i was thinking i should have stayed at the casinos, lol
[10:27 am] qwert  : Ed where do you have your trailing stop now on qcor
[10:27 am] Ed : we use to get atleast 4 of these per day
[10:27 am] Ed : 23.76
[10:28 am] qwert  : thx
[10:29 am] chinhngo  : buy cover cymi at 70.87
[10:30 am] Ed : nice going chin
[10:30 am] chinhngo  : thank go4it
[10:30 am] go4it  : Great trade Chin1
[10:30 am] mikewd2 -: nice chin
[10:31 am] Ed : and chin says, “they call me Mr. chin”
[10:31 am] taco  : nice mr. chin
[10:31 am] chinhngo  : lol
[10:31 am] mikewd2 -: FIRE trying to bounce
[10:32 am] mikewd2 -: FIRE can’t seem to break that downward trend
[10:35 am] apple  : good one, E
[10:37 am] apple  : there looks to be more downside on CYMI to me
[10:37 am] qwert  : monitoring MLNX
[10:37 am] elisha  : What do you think of AOS?
[10:39 am] Ed : wish I had seen it right b4 that 60 level, but i dont see high probability trade in it here
[10:40 am] elisha  : thx
[10:40 am] go4it  : i went half out at +1.00 and have 1% trailing stop on 2nd 1/2 plan to tighten stop at 69 if im still in because that’s about 50% retracement
[10:40 am] Ed : nice trading bruce
[10:40 am] go4it  : thks Ed your support means alot to me
[10:40 am] murano  : DG
[10:41 am] shark  : LULU drop
[10:42 am] mikewd2 -: DG broke 200ema on daily
[10:46 am] go4it  : die CMYI DIE!
[10:46 am] apple  : great trade for you go!
[10:47 am] go4it  : Great late morning trading unusual PST that is
[10:50 am] chinhngo  : sold mlnx at 98.87
[10:51 am] apple  : nice beautiful drop in the ES to prepare for that move higher
[10:51 am] victor51  : Mitch, MLNX chart please
[10:53 am] chinhngo  : bought dg at 48.29
[10:53 am] lisas  : Is there a buy on TOL?
[10:53 am] Ed : that very late chin
[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: real late chin
[10:53 am] chinhngo  : sold dgat 48.53
[10:54 am] lisas  : Just came in from outside, a lot of the stocks I had up dropped, was there news?
[10:54 am] go4it  : Out 70.35 🙂
[10:54 am] apple  : good job go!!!
[10:54 am] shark  : lisa TOL looks like too small a potential move
[10:55 am] Ed : not yet
[10:55 am] lisas  : Just comparing charts Shark, I’m babysitting a puppy
[10:55 am] go4it  : TY A
[10:55 am] lisas  : lots of distractions
[10:55 am] shark  : ok, whewww
[10:55 am] apple  : haha lisa
[10:55 am] Ed : no trading allowed then lisa, since u have distractions
[10:55 am] Ed : QCOR being defended
[10:55 am] lisas  : for sure, just trying to save my shoes
[10:56 am] apple  : thx E
[10:56 am] shark  : I’ve heard of training monkeys…
[10:56 am] lisas  : Just put her back in her crate, have a few minutes of peace.
[10:56 am] shark  : nice murano, Mitch
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: missed DG short entry
[10:57 am] apple  : go 4 it mike
[10:58 am] taco  : ya thanks murano
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: thanks Mitch, also thanks for the reminer on long to scale in. that worked great.
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: reminer = reminder.
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: I need to remember to scale into these type trades.
[11:00 am] shark  : FDO similar chart, CNBC unsure why
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: takes pressure off trying to hit the bottom
[11:01 am] Ed : i like catching the handle
[11:01 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[11:01 am] victor51  : qwert  r u in MLNX?
[11:01 am] elisha  : Handle?
[11:01 am] Ed : i was just messing with mike
[11:01 am] mikewd2 -: handle of the falling knife
[11:02 am] elisha  : ok
[11:02 am] elisha  : ohhhhhhhh
[11:02 am] chinhngo  : bought dg at 48.0
[11:03 am] apple  : better to be on the side of the handle
[11:03 am] chinhngo  : yes
[11:04 am] elisha  : you mean as opposed to grabbing the blade
[11:04 am] Ed : to  much risk at that level
[11:04 am] apple  : you will get cut
[11:04 am] chinhngo  : sod dg at 48.02
[11:05 am] chinhngo  : dg
[11:05 am] chinhngo  : take your advice thank mr mitch
[11:06 am] shark  : 🙂 nice chin
[11:07 am] qwert  : sorry victor just saw post no missed mlnx but got Dg
[11:09 am] victor51  : Qwert, thanks i am inMLNX
[11:09 am] qwert  : nice victor
[11:09 am] mikewd2 -: shark, what you think about buying put and call on CYMI at 70, weekly
[11:10 am] shark  : yup
[11:10 am] elisha  : yes
[11:10 am] qwert  : yes
[11:11 am] apple  : MK it moved down pretty quicky first
[11:11 am] cowboyh  : stall buzzer is going off
[11:12 am] mikewd2 -: CYMI moving up
[11:12 am] shark  : studying it, mike
[11:12 am] shark  : looks like buyout
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: yes, $20 + 1.1502 shares of ASML
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: weekly put was 1.10’ish, call was 1.35’ish.
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: so you get a few point move your going to cover the other and still make move.
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: money
[11:13 am] shark  : unless the buyout has issues, should flatten out
[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: well this bounce already has me winning.
[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: hope to sell the call with nice profit then hope for the selloff
[11:14 am] shark  : oh, great
[11:15 am] shark  : I would look to sell 65put/75call, but no premium left on weekly
[11:15 am] mikewd2 -: got out of short on DG a bit early
[11:15 am] apple  : are you guys ATM on CYMI?
[11:15 am] shark  : I’m not in, apple, discussing strategy
[11:15 am] elisha  : yes
[11:15 am] taco  : yes
[11:16 am] shark  : I’ve done that in a biplane before, Mitch.
[11:16 am] shark  : Have some nice footage, too
[11:16 am] apple  : wow shark
[11:17 am] victor51  : Thanks a lot Mitch for MLNX
[11:17 am] taco  : are you a pilot shark?
[11:17 am] shark  : I am, taco
[11:18 am] shark  : private pilot
[11:18 am] taco  : i’m slowly working on my license
[11:18 am] shark  : greeeaaattt
[11:18 am] taco  : same
[11:18 am] taco  : ya
[11:18 am] shark  : where do you fly out of?
[11:18 am] taco  : im in canada near toronto
[11:19 am] shark  : beautiful
[11:19 am] taco  : where are you?
[11:20 am] shark  : i trained out of the busiest general aviation airport in the world: Van Nuys, CA
[11:20 am] taco  : lol
[11:20 am] shark  : you know it?
[11:20 am] taco  : no, but can imagine
[11:20 am] shark  : 😉
[11:21 am] taco  : is lightning something available to us?
[11:21 am] taco  : or still in the works?
[11:22 am] lisas  : still in the works taco
[11:22 am] taco  : )
[11:23 am] chinhngo  : yes
[11:23 am] Ed : Mitch is workn on getting it available for next week taco
[11:23 am] chinhngo  : but i do not have lightning chart like you
[11:24 am] taco  : ok, will wait to see what its about and entails..
[11:24 am] Ed : thought process chin is same no matter what system
[11:25 am] taco  : sell
[11:25 am] elisha  : sellsellsell
[11:25 am] murano  : Get out
[11:25 am] chinhngo  : sell
[11:27 am] taco  : right
[11:27 am] elisha  : yes
[11:28 am] mikewd2 -: out half DG long
[11:28 am] taco  : nice mike
[11:28 am] mikewd2 -: went long 27.23
[11:28 am] mikewd2 -: 47.23
[11:29 am] taco  : figured
[11:30 am] mikewd2 -: alll out 47.15
[11:30 am] Ed : u mean 48.15 mike
[11:31 am] taco  : lol
[11:31 am] mikewd2 -: sorry
[11:31 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[11:31 am] shark  : DG getting thru vwap, sweet
[11:31 am] eddy  : then if it is 18.15 good trade Mike:)
[11:31 am] mikewd2 -: should have waited on lightning sell signal
[11:31 am] eddy  : sorry 48.15 lol
[11:31 am] chinhngo  : yes
[11:31 am] mikewd2 -: dang
[11:31 am] taco  : very much Mitch
[11:32 am] elisha  : yes
[11:32 am] shark  : Mitch, can you share a decent scale in strategy for DG, and how you would do it?
[11:32 am] mikewd2 -: good question shark
[11:33 am] shark  : you suggested scaling in on DG
[11:34 am] eddy  : MItch can we see DG in Lighting now?
[11:34 am] shark  : that would be like dollar cost averaging up, yes?
[11:35 am] mikewd2 -: that helped me on DG long entry, i usually go full posiiton and then hope i hit the bottom
[11:35 am] shark  : so you go in 25% at a time?
[11:35 am] shark  : or something like that?
[11:36 am] shark  : ok, gotcha, makes good sense
[11:36 am] mikewd2 -: good advice Mitch, thanks
[11:37 am] chinhngo  : so now is short dg at 48.40 ?
[11:38 am] shark  : 🙂
[11:38 am] joeytsa  : thats all you can ask for from a mentor
[11:38 am] taco  : thanks Mitch
[11:42 am] elisha  : Thank you Mitch
[11:42 am] shark  : “I sell too soon” (DG was good, though)
[11:43 am] chinhngo  : thank mitch
[11:45 am] joeytsa  : very good advice Mitch
[11:46 am] shark  : retested vwap DG
[11:49 am] mikewd2 -: CYMI still moving up
[11:50 am] joeytsa  : usually acquisition gaps dont move so much…was there other news?
[11:51 am] mikewd2 -: well the price of the buyout put it up very near 80 based on ASML price
[11:51 am] joeytsa  : right
[11:52 am] shark  : joey, investigation into poss breaches of fiduciary duty by board of CYMI
[11:52 am] shark  : in connection w/sale of company to ASML
[11:52 am] joeytsa  : oh ok..i knew it had to be something
[11:54 am] mikewd2 -: so that’s why it sold off 10 points i guess.
[11:55 am] shark  : yeah, looks like lawsuit came shortly after announcement
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : makes sense, i listed it in my pre-market gap up list, you never know with acs/takeovers/buyouts etc
[11:57 am] joeytsa  : go4it: you still here?
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : SWK bouncing a bit
[12:00 pm] go4it  : Hi Joey just got back thanks for CYMI call
[12:01 pm] joeytsa  : nice job on that one…and i dont eat at buffets  haha
[12:01 pm] victor51  : Hi Ed, I liked your exit for MLNX. Can you please expand on it
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: WLT having a big day
[12:01 pm] joeytsa  : yeah mike, are you on it
[12:01 pm] joeytsa  : you were looking at a potential short earlier
[12:01 pm] go4it  : LOL we kind of figured that
[12:01 pm] joeytsa  : 🙂
[12:02 pm] go4it  : How about farmers market
[12:02 pm] mikewd2 -: no i got stopped and never went long
[12:02 pm] shark  : WLT just broke through 100day ma
[12:02 pm] joeytsa  : thought you might have reversed it
[12:02 pm] shark  : i was thinking the same
[12:02 pm] mikewd2 -: with the debate talks on coal, should have went long at open.
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : WLT coming into a tri-top on the daily..almost
[12:03 pm] shark  : yeah, quadruple top, joey
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : and longer term its a downtrend
[12:04 pm] shark  : upside down h&s pattern?
[12:06 pm] joeytsa  : good eye
[12:07 pm] go4it  : wlt
[12:07 pm] joeytsa  : maybe on a break above $40
[12:07 pm] go4it  : oops
[12:19 pm] murano  : IHY
[12:19 pm] murano  : Forget it
[12:20 pm] Ed : hey murano out of the 1000’s of great ideas, that IHY has to be the worse 😉
[12:20 pm] joeytsa  : haha
[12:20 pm] murano  : Really bad idea
[12:21 pm] Ed : u were lookn at daily
[12:22 pm] murano  : I was bored
[12:23 pm] Ed : so now we need another  1000 great ideas
[12:23 pm] shark  : lol
[12:23 pm] murano  : I saw movement and……
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : ive seen better bowel movements 🙂
[12:23 pm] murano  : I will try to do better
[12:23 pm] Ed : lol
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : 🙂
[12:23 pm] shark  : lol
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : chart scaling can really throw you off though
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : i wished charts would just stay in 20cent increments for example instead of changing
[12:29 pm] murano  : HAL
[12:30 pm] mikewd2 -: all oil services are jumping
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : some news must have just hit
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : or a missile did  🙂
[12:31 pm] taco  : using time and sales Ed. nice
[12:31 pm] mikewd2 -: nothing good on HAL, bumpy forecast, capex lowered, etc
[12:42 pm] joeytsa  : WLT made it to $39
[12:44 pm] mikewd2 -: QCOR back to 25.60
[12:45 pm] joeytsa  : yeah it just hit my scanner
[12:45 pm] joeytsa  : bit late in the day though for me
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: RIG at resistance
[12:46 pm] Ed : nice taco
[12:46 pm] taco  : thanks Ed
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: a little late but in quick short on RIG
[12:48 pm] apple  : agree, joey, when the scaling is off, it is difficult to judge the move
[12:49 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, i hate when that happens
[12:50 pm] joeytsa  : what looks like an 80cent move turns out to be 20cents
[12:50 pm] apple  : it’s all an illusion…
[12:51 pm] apple  : i see the ES is selling off the hod
[12:51 pm] mikewd2 -: WLT pushed thru 39
[12:54 pm] apple  : and URI reversed earlier
[12:57 pm] qwert  : Bye everybody  cya all in the am
[12:57 pm] taco  : bye qwert
[12:58 pm] apple  : bye qwert
[12:59 pm] lisas  : bye all
[12:59 pm] elisha  : bye qwert
[12:59 pm] elisha  : bye lisas
[12:59 pm] apple  : bye everyone, thx and have a wonderful evening
[12:59 pm] taco  : bye apple
[12:59 pm] taco  : c you in the am
[12:59 pm] elisha  : GN Mitch, Ed and everyone
[12:59 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch,Ed, everyone..see you all tomorrow, enjoy your day
[01:00 pm] apple  : bye taco, how was trading for you today
[01:00 pm] taco  : very good, thanks
[01:00 pm] elisha  : bye apple
[01:00 pm] taco  : getting better)
[01:00 pm] apple  : good to hear
[01:00 pm] elisha  : bye joey
[01:00 pm] elisha  : bye taco
[01:00 pm] taco  : bye elisha
[01:00 pm] taco  : and everybody
[01:00 pm] victor51  : Good evening all
[01:00 pm] elisha  : bye victor
[01:01 pm] apple  : hey joey, there is a symbol for Churchill Downs, i see, CHDN
[01:01 pm] joeytsa  : yep
[01:01 pm] joeytsa  : its not just the track though..the run a few tracks, plus i believe an internet betting service
[01:02 pm] apple  : low, volume.  i also see MCP is at about $11 – wow, things sure drop from their glory
[01:02 pm] apple  : sounds like an operation all right

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