Chat Highlights From 10/14/2011

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:17 am] Brent : good morning all
[06:18 am] Kris : Good Morning Traders!
[06:18 am] Kris : How's everyone doing today?
[06:20 am] Kris : Married life is not much different. She finally started to cook a little.
[06:21 am] Kris : That's the plan for me too jolliffboy
[06:22 am] Kris : BEAV, APH, NAV, YOKU and GMCR on the short side
[06:22 am] Kris : Today I'm watching HANS, LTD, PCYC, QCOR, REDF, RES and NCMI on the long side.
[06:23 am] Kris : Do we have any new members in the room today?
[06:27 am] Kris : 2 MINUTES, Time To Rock!
[06:30 am] Kris : WLT short half
[06:31 am] Kris : WYNN short half
[06:32 am] Kris : GMCR short half
[06:32 am] Kris : will watch VRTX for a bounce to short into. Not gonna chase it here.
[06:33 am] Kris : QCOM long half
[06:34 am] Kris : VRUS falling hard
[06:35 am] Kris : SPY new hod
[06:36 am] Kris : looking for WYNN to make a new lod
[06:37 am] Kris : out half WYNN short
[06:37 am] Kris : TEVA short half
[06:38 am] Kris : JPM long half
[06:38 am] Kris : out half QCOM long
[06:39 am] Kris : out half WLT short
[06:40 am] Kris : SINA short half
[06:40 am] Kris : will short MAT on a new lod
[06:41 am] Kris : don't chase MAT short if you missed it
[06:41 am] Kris : dropped fast
[06:41 am] Kris : MAT short
[06:41 am] Kris : NFLX selling off this morning
[06:41 am] Kris : out another 1/4 WYNN short
[06:41 am] Mitch : watching NUAN for short
[06:42 am] Kris : YOKU short half
[06:42 am] Mitch : CNX turning over for short
[06:42 am] Mitch : VMW turning over, try for 93.55 to short
[06:43 am] Kris : AKAM buyout rumor
[06:43 am] Kris : good eye on VRUS short joey, I like it
[06:43 am] Mitch : watching APKT for short
[06:43 am] Mitch : watching RVBD as potential short
[06:44 am] Kris : out all WYNN short
[06:44 am] Kris : starting to look at WYNN for long reversal soon
[06:44 am] Mitch : missed AGO top for short, monitor for 2nd e=short around 12.66
[06:45 am] Kris : looking for 22.00 area on YOKU short
[06:45 am] Mitch : consider covering CNX 1st helping short
[06:45 am] Mitch : watching WYNN for bottom to buy
[06:46 am] Kris : looking to add to JPM long soon
[06:46 am] Kris : see if we get a retest of the highs in the SPY
[06:46 am] Kris : SPY trying to bounce
[06:46 am] Mitch : monitoring CLX for top; going to take a while
[06:47 am] Kris : GES long half
[06:47 am] Kris : out all WLT short for now
[06:47 am] Mitch : watching for short in APKT soon
[06:48 am] Kris : may short it again
[06:48 am] Kris : SPY new hod
[06:48 am] Mitch : 2nd helping short in ADBE soon, missed 1st
[06:49 am] Kris : long second half JPM, looking for new hod
[06:49 am] Mitch : HANS toppy
[06:49 am] Mitch : more downside on UFS
[06:50 am] Kris : 5 mins to consumer confidence report
[06:50 am] Kris : mind your positions
[06:50 am] Kris : nice trade but tough stop joey, I think she's gonna drop more.
[06:50 am] Mitch : FTNT turning over, for short
[06:50 am] Mitch : watching JBHT for short soon
[06:50 am] Mitch : watching MAKO for top for short
[06:51 am] Kris : SPY forming trendline support
[06:52 am] Mitch : monitor GMCR for bottom to buy, followed by short on top of bounce
[06:53 am] Kris : JBHT long half
[06:53 am] Kris : SINA trying for new lod
[06:54 am] Mitch : consider reducing CNX
[06:54 am] Mitch : consider reducing FTNT short
[06:54 am] Mitch : watching OSK for short soon
[06:55 am] Kris : came in under expectations
[06:55 am] Kris : let's see if consumers have confidence
[06:55 am] Kris : shocker
[06:55 am] Mitch : watching 12.25 to cover some AGO short
[06:56 am] Mitch : monitor FTNT for 2nd short again 19.30 area
[06:57 am] Kris : CHKP long half
[06:57 am] Mitch : BEN turning over, short idea
[06:58 am] Kris : VMED long half
[06:59 am] Brent : watching WBS for a bounce
[06:59 am] Mitch : GMCR bouncing
[06:59 am] Mitch : not sure if i posted VPRT for long bounce but watch for short on top of bounce
[07:00 am] Mitch : careful with VPRT, weak bounce
[07:00 am] Mitch : consider covering CNX short
[07:00 am] Mitch : watch VRTX for bottom,
[07:01 am] Kris : JBHT strong against the markets
[07:01 am] Kris : SPY new lod
[07:01 am] Kris : VRTX has fleas
[07:02 am] Kris : out half YOKU short
[07:02 am] Kris : you should be out of JPM already, if you still have it stop under lod
[07:03 am] Kris : out another 1/4 YOKU short
[07:03 am] Mitch : consider covering UFS short, Domtar
[07:04 am] Kris : out half JBHT long
[07:05 am] Mitch : consider covering more AGO
[07:05 am] Mitch : looking for FTNT 2nd short get near 19
[07:05 am] Mitch : RVBD turning over
[07:06 am] Brent : watching MAT for a short
[07:06 am] Kris : nice one bert, MAT
[07:08 am] Kris : out all YOKU short
[07:08 am] Kris : WLT new lows
[07:08 am] Kris : YOKU new lows
[07:08 am] Mitch : news about Barbie and Ken and MAT
[07:09 am] Kris : CHKP moving up
[07:09 am] Mitch : AGO reaching 12.25 level for those who are short
[07:10 am] Kris : SPY selling down into lod support
[07:10 am] Kris : SWN buyout rumor
[07:10 am] Mitch : watching YOKU for long
[07:11 am] Kris : SINA new lows
[07:11 am] Mitch : watching LAMR for bottom, no hurry, let it drop more
[07:12 am] Mitch : VRTX turning up
[07:13 am] Kris : out another 1/4 JBHT long
[07:13 am] Mitch : YOKU bottoming
[07:14 am] Kris : SWN testing hod
[07:14 am] Kris : we will beat the machines
[07:15 am] Kris : MAT turning over
[07:15 am] Kris : SPY new lod
[07:16 am] Brent : consider reducing some MAT if short
[07:16 am] Brent : next target $27.02 area
[07:16 am] Kris : getting more green coming across the board, watch that trendline resistance.
[07:16 am] Kris : lot's of red coming across the boards
[07:16 am] Mitch : YOKU long no-go
[07:19 am] Mitch : consider reducing VRTX long position
[07:19 am] Mitch : you guys thought i was kidding about Barbie, read an article she is big part of MAT, Mattel earnings
[07:21 am] Mitch : LAMR trying to bottom here
[07:22 am] Kris : not seeing much follow through by the longs on this low
[07:24 am] Kris : SPY coming into trendline resistance
[07:25 am] Kris : CROX selling off
[07:26 am] Kris : SPY failing at trendline resistance so far
[07:27 am] Kris : SPY coming down to test lod again
[07:27 am] Kris : staying on the down trend
[07:31 am] Kris : WYNN new lows
[07:36 am] Kris : SWN moving up into triple top
[07:39 am] Kris : SPY still holding that trendline resistance
[07:45 am] Kris : SPY broke resistance line, starting to see some buyers coming in here
[07:47 am] Kris : SODA looking weak
[07:54 am] Kris : watch SPY for new lod, could give some nice moves to the short side
[08:01 am] Mitch : consider closing LAMR long
[08:02 am] Mitch : watching VPTR for short on top of this bounce
[08:14 am] Mitch : consider covering VPRT
[08:19 am] Kris : SPY channel bound
[08:24 am] Kris : SPY broke channel, new lod
[08:32 am] Brent : ADBE could be interesting for a bounce around $26 if it keeps dropping
[08:44 am] Brent : if anyone took ADBE long, consider reducing soon. Resistance at 26.85 area
[09:28 am] Brent : SPY still trending down
[09:39 am] Mitch : NAV interesting for short, more downside
[09:49 am] Mitch : ADTN looks like another down trending stock for a while
[09:52 am] Mitch : ATPG been uptrending all morning
[10:01 am] Brent : nice one on RRC Candelas
[10:11 am] Mitch : anyone short NAV?
[10:22 am] Brent : good eye mhaus
[10:22 am] Brent : TSLA alert
[10:57 am] Mitch : look for a short in ATPG on top of this bounce
[11:29 am] Kris : OVTI ALERT
[11:29 am] Kris : OVTI ALERT
[11:29 am] Kris : OVTI ALERT
[11:33 am] Mitch : watching for long entry on OVTI soon,
[11:42 am] Mitch : puts you in a mental hospital ward though
[11:42 am] Mitch : this is a tick chart
[11:43 am] Mitch : that is where Kris and Brent found me one day
[11:53 am] Kris : ok, watch OVTI for a new low short
[11:53 am] Kris : they begged us to take mitch off their hands.
[11:53 am] Mitch : i was coiled up in fetal position saying tick, tick, tick
[11:54 am] Mitch : and they thought I was a bomber
[12:05 pm] Kris : SPY has been building a triangle into over resistance line the past 3 sessions.
[12:57 pm] Mitch : later guys, have a great weekend
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a great night. Good job this week, see you Monday
[01:00 pm] Kris : good night everyone. have a great weekend. see you Monday.
[06:01 am] joeytsa : reports: retail sales came in +1.1% with .5 forecast, UofM consumer sentiment at 9:55EST
[06:02 am] joeytsa : fed budget balance at 2pmEst
[06:05 am] ppann : going into mid month expiration.The Fridays before have been up 18 out of the last 27...the Monday's of...up 21 out of the last 27..the Tuesdays of up only 16 out of 27
[06:06 am] joeytsa : good to know ppann, q4 is usually decent too i believe overall
[06:07 am] joeytsa : also, pre-election year is historically the strongest
[06:07 am] ppann : grabbed GOOG nov 670 calls end of day for 2.4...
[06:10 am] joeytsa : gap down: NCMI,MCHP,TZA,SCO
[06:11 am] joeytsa : gap up: GOOG,GMCR,BIDU,NFLX,SINA,LULU...just throw darts haha
[06:11 am] ppann : gonna see how 1217 holds on the ES and how the bonds fare up. they're getting clobbered right now
[06:12 am] joeytsa : yeah TLT down $1.45 right now
[06:13 am] joeytsa : was spain downgraded? thought i saw that
[06:13 am] ppann : gonna sell googs right away
[06:15 am] ppann : eur has been trading well all night..been up all night playing it
[06:19 am] papadoc : Hows married life Kris?
[06:20 am] jolliffboy : GM Kris. looking forward to the weekend with lots of green in my pocket.
[06:21 am] joeytsa : up 5
[06:21 am] joeytsa : WLT strong this morning
[06:23 am] joeytsa : NCMI,MCHP both lowered outlooks
[06:24 am] joeytsa : WLT up 8 points now, going for 9 wow
[06:24 am] trvlntrdr : WLT may be a real buyout
[06:27 am] joeytsa : going to look for some nice swing setups this weekend
[06:28 am] joeytsa : WLT falling now
[06:30 am] joeytsa : SINA s
[06:30 am] skydiver : WLT S 82.17
[06:31 am] joeytsa : out SINA +2 !!! looking for more
[06:33 am] billyjackrochester : should i get out wlt?
[06:33 am] ppann : grabbed some wlt at 83 61
[06:33 am] ppann : short
[06:34 am] joeytsa : VRUS
[06:34 am] ppann : covered at 82.58..Thanks Kris:)
[06:35 am] joeytsa : and SINA with the gap close
[06:36 am] ppann : sold my GOOG calls at 3.10 + .70 on 5 contracts
[06:37 am] skydiver : out half WLT
[06:38 am] joeytsa : out half VRUS, trailing last half up
[06:38 am] observer : thx, Kris Qcom .24 pts.
[06:39 am] joeytsa : quick, stopped 2nd half
[06:39 am] joeytsa : SINA weak on that small bounce
[06:40 am] ppann : sold my last 200 brfs at 1983
[06:41 am] joeytsa : out SINA
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: WYNN near yesterday's close
[06:41 am] pow : short NFLX
[06:41 am] shark : die, NFLX, die!
[06:42 am] joeytsa : AAPL coming back to earth
[06:42 am] joeytsa : watching VRUS for a short
[06:42 am] ppann : picked up 1/3 position short on NUAN at 24.15
[06:42 am] shark : AAPL lod
[06:42 am] shark : come down, AAPL, come down
[06:43 am] pow : out 1/2 NFLX short
[06:43 am] shark : I sold upside calls joeytsa AAPL
[06:44 am] mhaus : VRTX
[06:45 am] joeytsa : s VRUS...stop at be
[06:45 am] joeytsa : will trail it down
[06:45 am] ppann : grabbed ES short at 1215.50
[06:46 am] joeytsa : huge spread on it be careful
[06:46 am] joeytsa : MAKO spiking up
[06:46 am] shark : GOOG lod
[06:47 am] ppann : tying up an Short SPY 122/ TLT Long 113.75 pair
[06:47 am] shawnt4 : what price is a bottom for wynn
[06:48 am] eyes-inthenow : Kris How big of a stop did you have on WLT i got stopped 1%
[06:48 am] joeytsa : stopped out VRUS +.50
[06:48 am] trvlntrdr : GMCR really weak
[06:49 am] skydiver : Shorted WLT average price $82.35 - covered 79.99
[06:50 am] skydiver : yes - went in twice - 500 shares each time
[06:51 am] joeytsa : gonna stay flat until the report comes out
[06:51 am] joeytsa : MAKO was strong on that support test
[06:51 am] joeytsa : yeah..lost patience..gotta work on that :)
[06:51 am] skydiver : Lot's more patience practice coming up I'm sure
[06:52 am] ppann : shorted Eur/USD 1.38853
[06:53 am] joeytsa : ppann: 1.38 been a key level?
[06:54 am] joeytsa : PANL strong
[06:54 am] joeytsa : WLT might set up a short
[06:55 am] joeytsa : 57.5
[06:55 am] joeytsa : consumer #
[06:56 am] ppann : kind of i'm doing quick scalps..kind of got toppy on the 37 min..got in on the one min ..been playing last 14 hrs straight so i'm in the quick flow
[06:56 am] shark : est 60, actual 57.5 -mood of sell on floor of exchange
[06:56 am] shark : sweet pullback on GOOG
[06:58 am] joeytsa : MAKO still rockin'
[06:58 am] joeytsa : SINA just banged on prev cl, let's see what she does from here
[06:59 am] ppann : here come more numbers
[07:00 am] joeytsa : bus inv..up .5%
[07:00 am] joeytsa : think i overheard that business sales were down though
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: SINA lod
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: VRTX
[07:02 am] joeytsa : FSLR,WLT look weak to me
[07:02 am] ppann : covered the ES at 1212.75...+2.25...5 cars
[07:02 am] shailan : what is your stop on JPM Kris?
[07:03 am] joeytsa : risking 50cents
[07:03 am] joeytsa : s WLT 79.50
[07:04 am] mikewd2 -: fall SINA fall
[07:04 am] ppann : covered Eur/usd at 1.3866...50 lots...+$940
[07:05 am] ppann : still swinging the spy/tlt...+7 so far
[07:06 am] joeytsa : not liking my WLT
[07:07 am] joeytsa : trailing my stop
[07:08 am] joeytsa : fal WLW fall
[07:08 am] rusty : SODA lod
[07:08 am] shark : GMCR short still good
[07:09 am] joeytsa : out half +.75
[07:09 am] mikewd2 -: WLT
[07:09 am] ppann : trying to grab some NUAN at 24.33 short
[07:10 am] joeytsa : out last half +1.50
[07:11 am] ppann : sm sell program
[07:12 am] rusty : Analyst raises price target on TIVO to 18
[07:12 am] sonorant : ppan -- what do you mean when you say "small sell program"?
[07:13 am] Mitch : computers selling sonor
[07:13 am] ppann : I believe we can
[07:13 am] ppann : oh ,there are Institutions that programs robots to sell the market at certain predetermined levels
[07:13 am] sonorant : can you beat the robot?
[07:14 am] mikewd2 -: YOKU 3min fade setup maybe
[07:15 am] rusty : STMP on thin side nevermind
[07:15 am] rusty : STMP radar
[07:15 am] skydiver : S MAT 27.49
[07:16 am] joeytsa : rusty..been following STMP..they have been trending up past few months
[07:16 am] junior : out half MAT
[07:16 am] mikewd2 -: SINA broke 90
[07:17 am] skydiver : SWN still going down
[07:18 am] joeytsa : LNKD big spike down
[07:18 am] ppann : Oh never chased that last attempt to short NUAN...i just can't bring myself to chase....still short at 24.15
[07:19 am] ppann : + 10 on the spy/tlt tie so far
[07:19 am] ppann : out with 5 contracts on each
[07:20 am] junior : stpped out last piece of MAT shoot, but nice trade Brent...thank you [07:20 am] joeytsa : MAT sales up 9%
[07:20 am] Mitch : thanks rusty
[07:20 am] rusty : TSL radar
[07:20 am] skydiver : Yes - thanks for MAT Brent
[07:21 am] candelas : heavy selling financials
[07:21 am] joeytsa : FAZ running, closed gap
[07:22 am] amersaeed : yoku has 4 cent spread , it that normal...??
[07:22 am] anthonyb : what do you think about reversing the VRTX long if we get a setup?
[07:22 am] candelas : it's been normal for YOKU amersaeed
[07:22 am] joeytsa : COG banging against prev cl resistance again
[07:22 am] joeytsa : GS weak
[07:22 am] Mitch : always a good idea to watch for those anthony, esp VRTX because it is so volatile
[07:22 am] rusty : BKX lod
[07:23 am] anthonyb : any takers on YOKU? long here?
[07:24 am] amersaeed : thinking about Long on YOKU
[07:24 am] candelas : it is great Gary
[07:24 am] candelas : keep an eye on RRC today
[07:24 am] garyb : Just a note...I am on the Tradestation platform today for the first time.....I don't think I have seen ANY trading software as GREAT! WOW!
[07:24 am] junior : FTNT hod again
[07:24 am] mikewd2 -: garyb: you switched from what platform?
[07:24 am] ppann : ipo
[07:24 am] ppann : ubnt opened
[07:25 am] garyb : lol...Mike I am still with TD Ameritrade...but will use it for swing trading.....Tradestation for day trading...it's great!
[07:25 am] ppann : Nice garyb i'm gonna take a peek at them this weekend
[07:26 am] candelas : it needs a pull back
[07:26 am] garyb : Yeh ppann you will love them! Did you get my email?
[07:26 am] joeytsa : nice call Candelas on RRC
[07:27 am] amersaeed : Long on Yoku @ 20.81
[07:27 am] dmitry : garyb did you get their special no platform fee's?
[07:27 am] mikewd2 -: hows commissions gary?
[07:28 am] candelas : ask for the lifetime, it's not widely publicized
[07:28 am] candelas : speaking of tradestation
[07:28 am] duckfan : Is tradestation better than IB?
[07:28 am] joeytsa : waiting for an "antelope trade" on GS again
[07:29 am] joeytsa : i had NCMI on my morning list..forgot all about them, too much going on..oh well
[07:29 am] jolliffboy : Kris - I bought NCMI at 12.00. What is your opinion as a long from that point?
[07:30 am] candelas : lifetime just means no platform fees as long as u have an account with them with min 5k
[07:30 am] dmitry : Brent is WBS still a valid play?
[07:30 am] eyes-inthenow : how much is lifetime
[07:30 am] joeytsa : out .75 on FAZ
[07:30 am] Kris : was that before or after the move up to 12.43 jolliffboy?
[07:31 am] candelas : Wynn lod
[07:31 am] garyb : Mike....great, very reasonable...1 cent a share
[07:31 am] garyb : Yes dmitry...I got their deal...but if you trade 5k a month you get it all free anyway...5k of shares is nothing if you day trade
[07:31 am] joeytsa : out .25 on GS...good morning so far
[07:31 am] jolliffboy : Kris - after move up to 12.43
[07:31 am] mikewd2 -: so 1k shares is higher than etrade, etc
[07:32 am] jolliffboy : Kris - got some bullets left.
[07:32 am] Kris : you might take some heat but you should be ok, it's holding up. are you full or do you have a couple bullets left?
[07:32 am] ppann : cl low of day
[07:33 am] bandit : any advice on jpm?
[07:33 am] candelas : have to run errand be back, awesome day in the zone
[07:33 am] candelas : say if u take a break like vacation
[07:33 am] candelas : they offer no platform fees as long as u have an account
[07:33 am] garyb : candeas...what's lifetime with TS?
[07:33 am] joeytsa : AGQ lod
[07:33 am] joeytsa : yeah mike
[07:33 am] Kris : good, wait to see if we can break trendline resistance in the SPY before adding to that long.
[07:33 am] mikewd2 -: $10 on 1k share is high, yes?
[07:33 am] ppann : there is a small cluster of support on the ES at the 1207 ish
[07:34 am] garyb : no $8 for 1000 Mike..BUT if you scale in and scale out at 500 it's cheaper
[07:34 am] joeytsa : bandit: i don't like JPM,GS,WFC..none of the banks
[07:34 am] joeytsa : ppann, what's your chart time frame?...i'm using ticks
[07:34 am] mikewd2 -: ok, got it
[07:35 am] ppann : out at 86.4
[07:35 am] ppann : pick CL at 86 .25 3 contracts...gonna trade it fast
[07:36 am] candelas : exactly
[07:36 am] lisas : candelas, this is similar to what you get if you meet minimum number of shares traded? Doesn't include date fees, but is the platform and radar scan fee? That way if you are on vacation, they don't charge what you normally get free for trading enough?
[07:37 am] lisas : Great, thanks.
[07:39 am] ppann : CL should hit 55sma round 86.57 ish
[07:39 am] ppann : if it fails i'm gonna try another short
[07:40 am] joeytsa : 86.53 is where my darvis box has CL res
[07:41 am] ronfrac : Mitch: Target on MAT
[07:43 am] joeytsa : MCHP has been a nice daily r-gap
[07:43 am] ppann : didn't chase the short on CL
[07:43 am] ppann : gonna look for a potential bounce at 1207 area on the ES
[07:48 am] eyes-inthenow : Kris did you see my question on WLT
[07:49 am] amersaeed : Long on YOKU @ 20.65
[07:49 am] ppann : grabbed CL short at 86.63
[07:50 am] ppann : I'll take it at 86.51 if i can
[07:51 am] anthonyb : WLT was one of my good trades today
[07:51 am] shark : look at MCHP for poss bounce
[07:51 am] skydiver : I went aggressive first part of morning on WLT - it went against me so bought more and all worked out great
[07:52 am] garyb : lol sky...on days like that I think..why work? Then on other days I think..."I better work!"
[07:52 am] ppann : i luv quick scalps
[07:52 am] ppann : took 86.49...5 contracts
[07:52 am] skydiver : it was a fun one for sure :)
[07:52 am] skydiver : Made my weeks wages in that one trade alone
[07:53 am] skydiver : a lot more fun making money than losing it :)
[07:53 am] skydiver : agreed garyb -
[07:54 am] shark : FE on the move again
[07:58 am] ppann : hmmm pit traders are buying 1175 SP futures puts...today's puts!
[07:59 am] anthonyb : could they be closing out a "short put" position? pann?
[8:00 am] anthonyb : I mean "long premium"
[08:03 am] anthonyb : VPTR?
[08:03 am] ppann : the put buying is real..the rest always taken with a grain of sea salt...
[08:04 am] anthonyb : Got it lol. lust had to look at the screen
[08:04 am] lightning : i did the same thing, lol
[08:04 am] lightning : VPRT
[08:04 am] pow : SLV selling off. ZSL moving towards upward breakout. Dollar getting ready to rise.
[08:05 am] pow : zsl breakout
[08:05 am] ppann : maybe countertrend Fri
[08:07 am] anthonyb : good call Mitch. VPRT
[08:09 am] ppann : I luv playing tvix btw
[08:10 am] ppann : puts buying was option covering. Confirmed
[08:12 am] ppann : boy i forgot to trade SWKS..lol had it ready and forgot to buy...lol 40 min ago....
[08:17 am] ppann : took 23.84 on NUAU short....from 24.22 cost average 600 shares
[08:19 am] rusty : MCP radar
[08:20 am] ppann : just missed my entry in CL at 86.36.....
[08:24 am] lightning : ppann I hope you passed on CL when it hit 86.36 again. It's headed toward 86.00 [08:21 am] ppann : I must try over 100 entries /day only catching bout 20 or so......so stubborn
[08:24 am] ppann : 1.6M spy block....grabbed some long at 1208 on ES
[08:25 am] ppann : 10 handle rule
[08:25 am] ppann : 5 contracts
[08:25 am] ppann : gonna see how it act at 1207
[08:27 am] ppann : and take the 2 pt scalp at 1210...at least that's my game plan
[08:28 am] storage : Mitch thanks for VPRT ,And thanks Brent for MAT
[08:29 am] trvlntrdr : aapl in down trend
[08:29 am] trvlntrdr : gmcr resumed downtrend
[08:29 am] trvlntrdr : goog may be starting one
[08:30 am] eyes-inthenow : Candelas do you know what the trend finder on Adrianos setup is for Ninja Charts
[08:30 am] ppann : grabbed 3 more at 1207
[08:31 am] ppann : out at 1209 c/a at 1207.75..+1.25 8 cars
[08:32 am] ppann : that's how i traded the last trade on the ES
[08:32 am] ppann : the 7's convert to 3's
[08:32 am] trvlntrdr : eyes I thought that was Adriano's personal indicator
[08:34 am] electrader : Brent on ADBE is it ever a concern that the stochastics is in overbought on daily
[08:36 am] Brent : yes it is electrader, good eye
[08:37 am] electrader : Would you pass on that long if it did drop into the proper profit parameters
[08:38 am] Brent : that has a lot of support at $26, I probably would've taken it had it kept dropping
[08:38 am] electrader : okay thanks
[08:38 am] frmendez67 : Nice ADBE trade
[08:39 am] trvlntrdr : GOOG consolidating
[08:40 am] joeytsa : took all morning but AGQ finally closed gap
[08:43 am] ppann : from 1217 sh high on ES to 1207.....10 Handles.......Knowing about the cluster at 1207 i had mentioned earlier, gave me the conformation for entry.....Knowing that 7's convert to 3's...I knew that i could get a solid bounce to 1209........
[08:44 am] joeytsa : i need more learning on the 7's/3's
[08:44 am] ppann : thus a confident no hassle 2+ potential scalp......i got 1.25 out of it :)
[08:45 am] anthonyb : yeah the rule of 10's is something I'd like to know more about
[08:45 am] joeytsa : sounds a touch more technical than my ' oohh its going up, buy' signal
[08:45 am] ppann : 3's = 6,9.etc
[08:45 am] ppann : 3's convert to 0's
[08:45 am] ppann : 7's convert to 3's
[08:45 am] ppann : works both ways
[08:46 am] anthonyb : lol that's me
[08:46 am] Brent : lol
[08:46 am] joeytsa : i just try to play follow the leader..more for swings, but also on the trenders
[08:46 am] shark : hey, that's funny, so did ZSL, joeytsa -they're meeting in the middle
[08:47 am] apple : K - watched Web 6 last night (with partymix) - excellent the 2nd time around. However, I never did receive the breakout pdf.
[08:48 am] anthonyb : one trade today
[08:48 am] anthonyb : yes ppann
[08:48 am] Brent : email me apple, I'll resend it
[08:48 am] joeytsa : i love breakouts
[08:48 am] ppann : anthony u trade the ES?
[08:48 am] ppann : nice
[08:49 am] anthonyb : +2.25pts
[08:49 am] anthonyb : 3min
[08:49 am] joeytsa : what time frame anthony?
[08:50 am] amersaeed : Anyone Long on YOKU...
[08:50 am] junior : NOG pretty thin....but interesting
[08:54 am] joeytsa : re: Breakaway Trades...they give nice signals for swing/int trades
[08:54 am] storage : anyone's thoughts on VPRT
[08:55 am] anthonyb : yeah storage, I covered WAAYY to soon lol
[08:55 am] joeytsa : Breakaway Trades will give amazing profits once this market bottoms and evens out
[08:55 am] lisas : joey, ticks are really middle of the road today
[08:55 am] storage : trail that 1/4
[08:56 am] apple : i am so ready...
[08:56 am] joeytsa : for ticks or indicators?
[08:56 am] joeytsa : lisa...i change my tick size middle of the day
[08:56 am] lisas : What' your set up Joey?
[08:56 am] ppann : Eu considering a 1 time %50 Greece Write down
[08:56 am] trvlntrdr : Brent was there ever a link to Mitch's mini-webinar he did during a the trading day a few days ago?
[08:57 am] Brent : I'll check with Mitch trvlntrdr
[08:57 am] lisas : alerts at -/+ 1000
[08:57 am] lisas : ticks, I use 1 min with 21 ma of that
[08:57 am] mikewd2 -: trvlntrdr - i think it's in the documents folder on far lower right of screen
[08:57 am] ppann : just hit bloomberg
[08:57 am] ppann : looking at the eur/usd
[08:57 am] trvlntrdr : hidden under my nose all week?
[08:57 am] trvlntrdr : thanks mike
[08:58 am] joeytsa : opening 90mins/closing 90 minutes i use 580
[08:58 am] ppann : who knows they make this up on the fly
[08:58 am] trvlntrdr : ppann why is that not a default?
[08:59 am] joeytsa : middle i switch to 340
[08:59 am] joeytsa : on YM,CL i stick with fib#'s..89, 144
[09:00 am] joeytsa : indi's: macd,stoch,%r,darvis box
[09:00 am] joeytsa : very tight bb's, and 4ema
[09:00 am] lisas : Makes sense, I have the 600's up there for the doldrums, use them with tna/tza if no better trades out there
[09:00 am] ppann : they have such a long way to go...
[09:01 am] anthonyb : I mean short positions
[09:01 am] anthonyb : my shorts might get a boost here.
[09:01 am] trvlntrdr : ppann notice how they changed the discussion lately from avoiding a default to avoiding a "messy default"
[09:02 am] joeytsa : i have been using the 580 to try to game TNA/TZA
[09:02 am] joeytsa : i will research that....
[09:02 am] lisas : use 21ma on tick to gauge short term bias. Usually first 1000 in either direction I fade the tna or ym. rest I go with
[09:03 am] amersaeed : YOKU was a pain....!!
[09:04 am] lisas : Joey, that seems to be a pretty high probability trade for me as well.
[09:05 am] joeytsa : lisa, i use the 580 to get a 20 tick jump on the 600 tick users
[09:06 am] joeytsa : but you have to realize, i am looking for really quick scalps
[09:07 am] lisas : I tend to look at what the current range is, use 1/2, then can scale in if it take a bigger move than expected, agree to scalp, small target
[09:08 am] joeytsa : i look for candle reversals at s/r with correlating indi's that follow the trend....
[09:08 am] lisas : right now, tna in downtrend, so would use tza, except, ym at 50% retracement, soooo will it find support, what's my crystal ball say, lol
[09:10 am] joeytsa : i didn't play it, but my CL chart gave a 20cent move [09:09 am] joeytsa : my bb's are flat on ES, very tight darvis box
[09:10 am] lisas : That's really a set up by the way.
[09:11 am] joeytsa : new trading rule : If you aren't going to learn from your mistakes..then why make them :)
[09:11 am] lisas : Probably can't explain well, but it's a break out of darvas box in conjunction with the kelner channels moving back outside the bollinger bands
[09:13 am] dano : ...if I hang around long enough, this stuff will rub off and sink in. Not sure when...months...who knows, but I know I like to learn this stuff, albeit a tad slow
[09:15 am] anthonyb : yeah I outta here guys. Just closed Nav short for +.80, RVBD short for +.60. and RIMM short for +.22. brought my pnl back a good ways. I'm flat except for 1 swing trade. Have a GREAT weekend everyone. see you all on the flipside!!
[09:15 am] lisas : good job anthony! great patience on RVBD.
[09:15 am] neuronx : MPC new hod
[09:18 am] pow : mako moving up
[09:20 am] pow : out of all mako
[09:20 am] ppann : i'm thinking of buying some spy call options right at the end of day...
[09:21 am] anthonyb : I think I would sell them to you for the right price ppann
[09:21 am] ppann : gonna play it to 09
[09:21 am] ppann : just picked at 1207 again btw
[09:25 am] neuronx : GCI
[09:29 am] anthonyb : there was your 1209 ppann
[09:29 am] ppann : took + 2 on the ES 10 cars ...out at 1209
[09:30 am] Brent : nice ppan
[09:30 am] ppann : 7's to 3's
[09:34 am] amersaeed : YOKU is coming back finally..
[09:36 am] ppann : bear flag in bonds
[09:39 am] ppann : on the 5 min...sorrry
[09:40 am] joeytsa : IBM reports on monday i believe, should be something to watch
[09:41 am] pow : amzn approaching hi of the month
[09:49 am] rd : Just got in, hope you have all done well. I just knew NAV would be a great short. Icahn is a puts best friend.
[09:51 am] joeytsa : ES in tight range, macd trending lower
[09:54 am] ppann : if there can't be a run towards the high of the day in the ES by 2, then a drift lower..imo
[09:55 am] shark : die, NFLX, die!
[09:56 am] eyes-inthenow : Did you guys know you can plot two time frames on one chart in Ninja
[09:58 am] joeytsa : NFLX is like those 2 divers
[09:58 am] shark : die, GOOG, die!
[09:59 am] candelas : RRC hod
[10:00 am] joeytsa : 1 point range last 10 minutes
[10:00 am] joeytsa : ES range got even tighter on the 340
[10:02 am] candelas : it had been itching to move all day
[10:03 am] joeytsa : nice little spike of volume on the break above hod
[10:03 am] neuronx : candelas what scanner you r using?
[10:04 am] candelas : I picked that one up from yesterday cuz I liked the daily
[10:04 am] ppann : not anticipating/thinking of what next on the ES..gonna hawk it and just react...:)
[10:05 am] candelas : but I use radarscan in Tradestation, and etrade scanner
[10:06 am] candelas : yes
[10:06 am] joeytsa : candelas: does radarscan come with tradestation?
[10:06 am] joeytsa : i might just check them out, same with esignal
[10:06 am] skydiver : out of NFLX bought at 115.57 sold 116.30
[10:07 am] candelas : i had the scanners for esignal but never got use to them
[10:07 am] candelas : so i just use their charts
[10:07 am] ppann : 09's convert to 12's
[10:07 am] skydiver : and I took a phone call - almost forgot I was in NFLX - whew - sold at right time
[10:08 am] joeytsa : seems like a bunch of options with esignal...have to take my time and read through everything
[10:11 am] qwert : yep nav
[10:12 am] lightning : I shorted NAV early in the day, but closed out about 30 cents ago.
[10:12 am] skydiver : Missed NAV -
[10:12 am] skydiver : Nice one on NAV!
[10:13 am] lightning : looking at RRC for a possible short
[10:13 am] skydiver : Yes Mitch - fantastic call on NAV
[10:14 am] mikewd2 -: 3min fade on RRC short?
[10:15 am] lightning : that's what I am thinking Mike
[10:16 am] ppann : just noticed CL nice pop...looking to short it for a quick scalp
[10:16 am] ppann : small buy program
[10:18 am] shailan : BIDU
[10:19 am] dano : end of day thoughts, anyone??
[10:19 am] ppann : took my patnd chicken short of +. 12 on CL grabbed 86.99 on the cover...5 contracts
[10:20 am] dan : Brent , TSO ?
[10:20 am] junior : ROST dbl top
[10:20 am] skydiver : come on down RRC
[10:21 am] Brent : not a big enough move for me to fade TSO dan
[10:21 am] mhaus : TLSA
[10:21 am] mikewd2 -: i like the 3min fade
[10:21 am] rd : yes on NAV short at 41.10 and first half is out
[10:22 am] mhaus : Thx. Out 27.5
[10:22 am] mhaus : TSLA
[10:22 am] skydiver : TSLA - watching
[10:23 am] joeytsa : nice quick one mhaus
[10:23 am] mhaus : in 27.8
[10:25 am] ppann : the 12's are confirmed...pullback to the 10's?
[10:25 am] ppann : to convert 3 to 0's
[10:26 am] shark : die, NFLX, die!
[10:26 am] skydiver : nice mhaus on TSLA
[10:27 am] mikewd2 -: RRC turning out nice
[10:27 am] pandozzi : im feelin a selloff soon
[10:27 am] pow : ERY stochastic at extreme
[10:27 am] trvlntrdr : cya for the weekend--going camping with the fam.
[10:29 am] Brent : good job Mike, where's your first target?
[10:30 am] lightning : covered 1/2 RRC short.
[10:30 am] mikewd2 -: 70.84
[10:31 am] Brent : nice job guys
[10:31 am] skydiver : covering 1/2 RRC short as well
[10:32 am] candelas : it was great trade both ways
[10:32 am] lisas : Great call ed, thanks!
[10:32 am] skydiver : Thanks for RRC short! Couldn't do it without you guys! - still learning :)
[10:33 am] candelas : i agree, great calls all around
[10:33 am] ppann : the average move for today when we start with a gap up is about 9.5 handles...The move down so far has been 10.5 handles.....
[10:33 am] skydiver : NAV was very nice, RRC very nice, just lots of nice today
[10:34 am] Brent : yeah, I heard you could, never tried it though
[10:34 am] eyes-inthenow : Brent did you Know you Can Plot two time frames on 1 Chart
[10:34 am] lightning : SBUX will be a long to watch on Monday -- if it goes above 42 strongly early.
[10:34 am] ppann : oh on the ES
[10:34 am] skydiver : Really eyes?
[10:35 am] eyes-inthenow : + 3m use space
[10:35 am] eyes-inthenow : it is really easy in chart + 3m
[10:35 am] eyes-inthenow : or 5m or whatever
[10:36 am] Brent : lol, nice patience mike
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: out half RRC 70.84
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: still looks good on 3min
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: took a while
[10:37 am] Brent : may pick up some speed clearing this 50ma on the 1min on RRC
[10:37 am] skydiver : is NAV bouncing?
[10:38 am] ppann : For CL 86.80 to 70ish could be stable before making an attempt to new highs 87.30 to 50ish
[10:38 am] skydiver : S ROST 84.63
[10:38 am] skydiver : still have 1/2 in RRC Short
[10:39 am] lightning : GMCR breaking to new lows
[10:39 am] ppann : i'm gonna react to a short if it confirms this pattern. Late in the day
[10:40 am] mikewd2 -: me too
[10:40 am] mikewd2 -: NAV
[10:40 am] skydiver : all out of RRC
[10:41 am] lightning : still riding 1/2 RRC. Watching closely though
[10:41 am] ppann : on cl
[10:41 am] ppann : trying quick long at .70
[10:41 am] ronfrac : ROST Resistance 84.40
[10:42 am] Brent : looks good to me lightning if you can get some help from SPY
[10:42 am] mikewd2 -: i sold but based on 1min - didn't realize i was on that
[10:42 am] mikewd2 -: was bouncing back and forth
[10:43 am] mikewd2 -: might have been a good thing though
[10:44 am] Brent : it's been trending of the 50ma most of the day on the 1min
[10:44 am] Brent : RRC has
[10:45 am] skydiver : had a tight stop
[10:45 am] skydiver : stopped out of ROST -
[10:46 am] ppann : took my pttnd chkn scalp +.12 on 5 contracts
[10:48 am] lightning : ppann, is +.12 a magic number?
[10:48 am] ronfrac : Mitch: short ROST 84.76 2M avg and stoc turned up. Cover?
[10:49 am] amersaeed : Any comment on YOKU - MItch, Kris....??
[10:49 am] Kris : what is your question amersaeed?
[10:49 am] pow : MKING, why are you using 1-,8,7 on NAV stochastic?
[10:50 am] amersaeed : any hope to come back... of YOKU...
[10:50 am] amersaeed : yes
[10:50 am] Kris : are you long?
[10:50 am] Kris : I was short off the open. did someone call it long?
[10:50 am] ppann : no lightning most of the times i would catch 1/4 of the whole move...good enough for me...
[10:51 am] amersaeed : 20.70
[10:51 am] Kris : it looks very weak trying to hold this consolidation level
[10:51 am] Kris : what's your entry?
[10:51 am] mikewd2 -: Mitch said to watch YOKU, but called it off - it was a no-go
[10:51 am] ppann : go back a bit and reread my comments on CL...pull up the chart and times ....room to play
[10:52 am] Kris : I don't see it coming back to your entry today amersaeed
[10:52 am] Kris : I'll short it on a new lod in fact
[10:52 am] Kris : ok, it's bottoming here at support, give it about 15-20 minutes to cycle up and then see if you can get out around 20.40-20.50 area.
[10:52 am] lightning : Thanks ppann, I got it for a little more than .12. Just wondering.
[10:53 am] Kris : I'll take 12 ticks all day long
[10:53 am] ppann : scalped over 40 round trips today...having some fun
[10:58 am] mhaus : for swing trade
[10:58 am] mhaus : TSA, what are your thoughts for NTES?
[10:59 am] Kris : I don't see a lot of potential where it's at to the long side and I would wait for confirmation before entering it as a swing trade short imho mhaus.
[11:00 am] pow : doji on 2 min chart for TZA
[11:01 am] joeytsa : spend all weekend reading fundamental stuff, annual reports...it's all crap
[11:01 am] ppann : not at all been doing it since 96...Family sees things a little diff....aka i should have better things to do than to sit in front of screens 14 hrs /day
[11:02 am] ppann : swings for me don't last as long as they used to....i'm a trader i trade everything
[11:03 am] elias : SWC
[11:03 am] joeytsa : me either ppann...swings changed for me a year or 2 ago
[11:04 am] Kris : this is looking like all yoku has amersaeed, start looking to get out or move up a stop on your long
[11:06 am] billyjackrochester : when you say look for short at top of bounce, how do we know when to enter?
[11:06 am] Brent : not yet eyes, I will though
[11:06 am] eyes-inthenow : Brent did you check it out
[11:07 am] lisas : r u new billyjack? Mitch uses indicators, if new, the dvd's will explain
[11:07 am] mikewd2 -: TZA l 37.13
[11:07 am] pow : LOng TZA
[11:07 am] ronfrac : no stk atpg avail to borrow
[11:09 am] eyes-inthenow : Kris please resend
[11:11 am] mhaus : out WLT
[11:11 am] mhaus : WLT
[11:13 am] pow : NAV turned over
[11:14 am] rusty : SPY volume very low yet again
[11:15 am] derns : Low volume with an uptrend...I can't help but be concerned about this 10 day run up.
[11:17 am] billyjackrochester : mitch what are you looking for in atpg?
[11:17 am] joeytsa : could be a danger derns
[11:18 am] apple : thx B
[11:18 am] billyjackrochester : to sell short?
[11:18 am] Brent : I sent that pdf to you apple
[11:18 am] derns : What surprises me is how low TZA has gotten..seems like there should be a hidden concern over uncertainty in the market
[11:18 am] lisas : Billy, do you see the chart? He's looking for the indicators to flatten, turn down, look at the stochastic and the blue moving average
[11:19 am] billyjackrochester : i know stupid questions, but i am still learning
[11:19 am] joeytsa : brj: good questions to ask while learning
[11:19 am] lisas : Have you gotten the dvd's?
[11:19 am] lisas : Not stupid, you're learning
[11:20 am] billyjackrochester : yes, but only the one stock, last day of free room, gonna join though, I have learned more in a weak than in a year by myself
[11:20 am] joeytsa : billyjack...have you ever traded b4 or anything?
[11:21 am] Brent : it's good to have you billy
[11:21 am] joeytsa : some great teachers, and you don't have to unlearn any bad habits etc
[11:21 am] joeytsa : that's why i asked...if you are new to trading you have the best of both worlds
[11:21 am] lisas : watch the dvd's several times
[11:22 am] apple : we all help one another
[11:22 am] billyjackrochester : you guys are unbelievable! made some money while here, but mostly watching to learn!!! until I get comfortable
[11:22 am] mhaus : That's true. You don't have to unlearn the bad habits. We will just hammer them out of you.
[11:23 am] billyjackrochester : so what is the easiest one to start with for a beginner?
[11:23 am] joeytsa : save yourself time and energy...don't look for the holy grail, it's not there...learn 1 or 2 techniques...get them down and you won't have to worry about a boss again
[11:23 am] mhaus : It's been the best week of October for me.
[11:24 am] apple : V is great and easy to understand
[11:24 am] billyjackrochester : ok, seen you guys trade the v and i like it, but what is the 3 min fade?
[11:24 am] lisas : Personally, the 3 min fade
[11:24 am] mhaus : Billy, paper trade for a couple of weeks
[11:24 am] ppann : oh btw i grabbed that 2 bottom on CL this time.. scalped it from 86.66 to 86.87 5 contracts....was on the phone with itrade trying to make sure they were wiring out some food money for the weekend....
[11:25 am] lisas : hmmm, I think it's the same
[11:25 am] mhaus : practice the different strategies in the DVD, see what works best for you, then go live.
[11:25 am] ppann : sold it at the 55sma on the 1 min
[11:26 am] billyjackrochester : yeah, I set my charts up to mimic the dvds
[11:26 am] lisas : The dvd's have extra indicators, look at the charts in room to see what TSA is using now.
[11:27 am] billyjackrochester : but i get a little lost still on the quick trades you guys do, still learning on those
[11:27 am] billyjackrochester : forecasted a huge $1+ move (trend) for amat 5000 shares
[11:28 am] billyjackrochester : huge for me :D
[11:28 am] joeytsa : and don't confuse daytrading with swing trading
[11:28 am] Kris : if you email me billyjack I'll send you my strategy
[11:28 am] Kris : kris@tradestocksamerica.com
[11:28 am] ppann : i am still thinking of holding these 128 Nov calls on the spy picked up at .95 over the weekend....
[11:29 am] billyjackrochester : sure, i have daytraded some too in the past
[11:29 am] dano : Bjack, for me I limit myself to a few live trades / week. I practice and learn for the rest of the week. I get live experience / nerves and sim trd to work on strategies. Quite a system, but it works for me. Gotta feel the live...real emotion tester.
[11:29 am] joeytsa : but the charts can still look the same
[11:29 am] lightning : OVTI alert
[11:29 am] mhaus : Billy, that's why I say, paper trade for a couple of weeks, then go live.
[11:29 am] ppann : 20 of them
[11:30 am] mhaus : missed it :(
[11:33 am] Kris : thin?
[11:33 am] ronfrac : KRIS: ? go long ovti. Very thin
[11:34 am] joeytsa : i see 5M shares traded
[11:34 am] joeytsa : l 15.50
[11:34 am] joeytsa : stopped at 16
[11:34 am] ppann : got to stop multitasking just covered off 1213 t o 1211.5, really sorry bout that,,,wanted to give a reverse example of the 3' convert to 00's.....
[11:34 am] ronfrac : News OVTI rumor it's chip may not be in 4S
[11:34 am] skydiver : L 15.54 OVTI
[11:35 am] neuronx : Kris you got OVTI from trade ideas scanner?
[11:35 am] skydiver : out OVTI 15.82
[11:36 am] billyjackrochester : ovti still good for long?
[11:36 am] ppann : if the convert fails we make a run for it to the long side
[11:38 am] mhaus : Billy, trades on rumors are short quick trades. You take a few dollars in profit both ways and get out.
[11:38 am] ppann : this crazy way of reading the tick,with bollngrs,stochs,mcad piviots and sma's really paint a clear picture
[11:39 am] joeytsa : that's what i do ppann...not perfect though
[11:39 am] Kris : good point. we haven't talked about ALERTS in a while
[11:39 am] Kris : if you see us post ALERT it is a fast moving news trade
[11:39 am] lisas : atpg dropping again
[11:39 am] mhaus : $100 in a few minutes is not bad
[11:39 am] neuronx : Brent is the trade ideas scanner works much betder than etrade scanner >?
[11:40 am] Kris : it's advanced and should be practiced first before trading it live.
[11:40 am] Kris : They typically move too fast for us to give the initial entry but we may give entry on the reversal if it sets up.
[11:40 am] mikewd2 -: out half OVTI 15.8
[11:40 am] ppann : then u learn some elliotte, apply 10 handle rules with the 3's become a BORG..how can u loose...We will assimilate u into our collective..the trading robot tempt us with....
[11:41 am] joeytsa : i noticed that sometimes that very 1st rebound move happens b4 the indicators signal..i jumped the gun and guessed correctly that time
[11:41 am] joeytsa : my schwab chart gave me the signal earlier than my lightspeed chart did
[11:41 am] Kris : I trade the news moves off the 1min, too fast for a 2min or 3min chart for typically.
[11:41 am] ppann : so if we can be more like them and they can't be more like us- We will always win...Yeah!
[11:41 am] ronfrac : Rumor seems verified based on news rpt
[11:42 am] candelas : agreed, we have to have a systematic approach that is consistent
[11:42 am] joeytsa : looks like an ekg
[11:42 am] Kris : you might even prefer a tick chart
[11:43 am] apple : that gets me crazy...
[11:43 am] candelas : no way
[11:43 am] candelas : u can do it push through
[11:43 am] joeytsa : MCP spiking up a bit
[11:43 am] Kris : look at OVTI on a 200 tick
[11:43 am] Kris : no way
[11:43 am] Kris : no, that's a single tick
[11:43 am] mikewd2 -: nice calls guys on OVTI
[11:44 am] apple : very nice on OVTI
[11:44 am] joeytsa : i don't think Lightspeed has tick charts, but i did ask them to add VWAP and Darvis
[11:44 am] lisas : lol Mitch
[11:44 am] pow : Kris what the settings for you to pick up the alert on OvTI
[11:44 am] skydiver : 200 tick much better
[11:45 am] joeytsa : pow: on madscan i have one set up to show 25cent spikes
[11:45 am] Kris : I just had one stock on my scanner making fast and continuous new lows
[11:45 am] Kris : it stood out
[11:45 am] Kris : yes
[11:45 am] pow : Is that setting part of the course material you handed out
[11:46 am] candelas : mcp getting some love
[11:46 am] Kris : the scanner settings from the webinar will pick it up on the trade ideas or etrade scanners
[11:47 am] apple : thx MK, K and B and everyone - very good today. All have a fabulous weekend. See you Monday!
[11:47 am] candelas : etrade scanner that is
[11:47 am] candelas : it picked up on mine
[11:47 am] Kris : double check your settings pow
[11:47 am] neuronx : etrade won't pick this up it only works for spikes up
[11:47 am] pow : I have the scanners up now and did not pick OVTI up
[11:48 am] candelas : sometimes if u turn ur head u can miss it
[11:48 am] lisas : Etrade is doing a 90 day free etrade pro
[11:48 am] ronfrac : MCP poss takeover by rio tinto
[11:49 am] candelas : the other AAPL is gettn some love
[11:49 am] candelas : tryn to breakout
[11:49 am] neuronx : candelas how you set up your move down for 3%
[11:50 am] candelas : yes
[11:50 am] storage : Thanks Kris for OVTI 15.55 out 16.6
[11:51 am] eyes-inthenow : I don't see 16.60
[11:51 am] storage : 16.06
[11:52 am] eyes-inthenow : nice trade
[11:52 am] eyes-inthenow : that better
[11:53 am] neuronx : Brent it is no setting for 3% down only up like min up 10% right .
[11:54 am] candelas : actually that one came up on high/low ticker
[11:54 am] neuronx : candelas you said you got ovti on etrade can u tell me how you did 3% for downside move
[11:55 am] Kris : did you see the scanner webinar?
[11:55 am] Kris : yes it is neuronx
[11:55 am] neuronx : ok so it's different scan is not for 3 min fade tks
[11:55 am] neuronx : y
[11:56 am] Kris : should come on the falling stocks scanner
[11:56 am] Kris : that won't work very efficiently
[11:56 am] Kris : you don't set a min % move
[11:56 am] neuronx : but its big move should come up on 3 min fade scan for tradeideas
[11:57 am] dano : is there an indicator (of sorts) of say the S&P that shows shorts vs just plain sells?
[11:57 am] ppann : i'm gonna look to short CL in the 87.20' to 87.30 area
[11:58 am] Kris : I wish dano
[11:58 am] Kris : short inventory is released once per month
[11:58 am] sonorant : well all I can say about OVTI is that it was interesting, that it worked better on a 30 sec chart, and that I'm glad I'm in sim. Those first few bounces were pretty fast
[11:59 am] Kris : lol ppann you swing trade like me
[11:59 am] lightning : Sonorant, I just traded OVTI as a 3-minute fade and picked up 2.7%.
[11:59 am] ppann : i knew i couldn't hold those spy calls over the week end...took 1.05 from .95 20 contracts.......
[12:00 pm] candelas : take now or forever hold your peace
[12:00 pm] derns : TNA/TZA
[12:00 pm] ppann : LOL good i don't feel alone anymore.....:)))
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : i used to do a lot of swing trading too
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : markets turning around too fast
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : swings have been tough for me to take
[12:01 pm] Kris : ask brent, I'm always telling him to remind me that it's a swing trade.
[12:01 pm] ppann : oh i'm shorting this spike....ticks +1216......1.6M SPY block
[12:02 pm] Brent : very true
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : and i am in the technically bullish/fundamentally bearish mindset
[12:03 pm] ppann : 1st lot at 1215
[12:03 pm] ppann : Kris..LOL
[12:04 pm] sonorant : lightning, I jumped the gun on it with a 1 minute chart and got nailed. You are right, the 3 minute chart would have been pretty safe, looking at it.
[12:05 pm] lightning : Sonorant, I gave up trading spikes with a 1-minute chart. I'm too eager, and lost too much money that way.
[12:05 pm] sonorant : if it reverses faster than I can move the stops, they are gone and so am I
[12:05 pm] sonorant : my pre-set stops are also problematical for these less expensive stocks with big moves.
[12:06 pm] lightning : Ah, I see.
[12:06 pm] lightning : I agree, but I trade either 1/2-sized position or less and put stop just under the LOD in this case.
[12:06 pm] mhaus : BSFT
[12:06 pm] sonorant : my stops are 1%, but on this stock, 15 cents happened instantly
[12:07 pm] billyjackrochester : Kris so that means it will tend to go down spy?
[12:07 pm] billyjackrochester : ok
[12:07 pm] Kris : that means it's building up for a breakout over the resistance line
[12:07 pm] ppann : fyi.....these kind of set up for me i will continue to short the higher it goes started with 5 lots then i add3 lots 2 lots 5 lots all the way to 25...then i kill it....
[12:07 pm] ppann : no thinking just reacting
[12:08 pm] lightning : my stops are usually 1%, too, but on spikers I go smaller shares and wider stops. In this case, my stop was about 1.6%
[12:08 pm] ppann : looking at 1217 for my next lot short
[12:10 pm] greg : Seems like failed breakouts from triangle consolidation (like OVTI) are really nice signals, anyone second that?
[12:10 pm] lightning : I see, if you use an ATM, I can see how that could be a problem since it was moving very fast
[12:10 pm] sonorant : I guess I need some presets for spikers with wider margins
[12:10 pm] sonorant : though you can always get hurt
[12:10 pm] victor51 : tHANKS cHRIS, ovti SHORT WORKED FOR SOME $$$$
[12:11 pm] lightning : no, I use Lightspeed.
[12:11 pm] sonorant : lightning, I forget, are you on Ninja T?
[12:12 pm] Kris : a support trendilne coming into resistance area and then a fail back to the lows.
[12:12 pm] Kris : after initial large moves down, I would agree that is a consistent pattern greg
[12:12 pm] sonorant : look at the BSFT trade -- if you waited for the 3 minute candle on that one the trade was over. But then it wasn't 3 or 4% either.
[12:13 pm] lightning : you are correct, sonorant, it means sometimes I miss a trade.
[12:13 pm] ppann : grabbed 2 contracts short on CL at 87.20.....
[12:13 pm] ppann : waiting to add more
[12:13 pm] sonorant : Could you draw a picture of what you guys are talking about?
[12:14 pm] greg : cool thanks kris, makes sense... i sometimes forget about the initial large move part :)
[12:17 pm] joeytsa : today's move on SPY daily looks like lowest volume day since july25th?
[12:17 pm] sonorant : for the SPY triangle?
[12:17 pm] sonorant : Kris -- what chart do you look at to see it, the daily or the 1 min, or the 15 min?
[12:18 pm] joeytsa : or am i missing something, plus 45 minutes left
[12:19 pm] derns : Kris..what is the significance of a triangle pattern? Is that excessive resistance?
[12:19 pm] joeytsa : so july 25th SPY was 134, OCT 2nd SPY 108on the low...
[12:19 pm] ppann : it's pretty low vol.....
[12:20 pm] joeytsa : today's level is basically a 50% retracement
[12:20 pm] joeytsa : with 124 the 200ma resistance
[12:21 pm] dan : Kris, in sTrategyDesk, can we set another column with 1min stock?
[12:21 pm] Kris : breaking down an ascending triangle is basically higher lows coming into a single resistance line
[12:21 pm] Kris : depends on the shape of the triangle derns
[12:21 pm] Kris : each sell off from the resistance line has less sellers then the previous move
[12:21 pm] Kris : less shorts coming in
[12:22 pm] derns : Kris...so a possible upward breakout with volume?
[12:22 pm] eyes-inthenow : what are you basing your price off of Ppann
[12:22 pm] joeytsa : 2 days ago,abandoned baby/doji on higher vol than yesterdays hammer
[12:22 pm] joeytsa : i have 87.27 as some resistance ppann
[12:22 pm] ppann : and 1217 on the ES
[12:22 pm] ppann : looking at 87.3 for my next spoon short on CL
[12:22 pm] sonorant : Kris are you talking about the Daily chart on the SPY?
[12:23 pm] Kris : ascending triangle is a bullish pattern when the previous move is up
[12:23 pm] Kris : look at the 15 minute chart sonorant SPY
[12:23 pm] Kris : yes derns
[12:24 pm] Kris : they can also fail but they get to a point where they wind up and can make a good move
[12:24 pm] sonorant : okay Kris, what am I supposed to see, where is the triangle?
[12:25 pm] billyjackrochester : have a good weekend everyone, been a great learning experience for me
[12:25 pm] Brent : have a good night billy
[12:26 pm] billyjackrochester : Look forward to learning more from you guys!!
[12:26 pm] billyjackrochester : you will, I am joining the room. i only get to trade on maybe monday and friday part days cause I work in an office
[12:26 pm] ppann : ok MM trick to signify the higs on the ES is being played out...
[12:28 pm] Brent : hurry up before it breaks
[12:28 pm] candelas : assuming markets breakout next week keep an eye on AMZN
[12:28 pm] ppann : GS will by the high tick of the ady sit on the bid. shorting everything coming his way......
[12:28 pm] sonorant : I'm loving it Kris ;-)
[12:29 pm] billyjackrochester : glad to know I am not alone :D
[12:29 pm] candelas : I will let u tell me Sonorant, look at the daily for Amzn
[12:29 pm] greg : awesome room btw, i tried another room 5 years ago but this is waaaayyy better
[12:29 pm] greg : billyjack, I'm in the same boat
[12:29 pm] greg : learning to trade while i do my j-o-b
[12:29 pm] joeytsa : always learning, no matter how long you trade
[12:29 pm] Kris : can you see it now?
[12:29 pm] sonorant : candelas -- break out which way? down?
[12:29 pm] sonorant : YES!!!!! but what does it mean????
[12:30 pm] billyjackrochester : I have tried other places to learn as well, never found anything nearly as good. These guys really know their stuff.
[12:30 pm] joeytsa : yeah greg, it rocks here
[12:30 pm] ppann : grabbd some more at 16.50
[12:31 pm] billyjackrochester : and are willing to help, that's the real advantage
[12:31 pm] sonorant : well, amazon is way up. -- all time high for the data that I have loaded.
[12:32 pm] candelas : so, if u have a strong market, u have very little resistance makes it easier for move higher
[12:32 pm] joeytsa : market pushing higher
[12:32 pm] ppann : if it hits 19 i'll short 5 more
[12:32 pm] sonorant : so are you saying that if the market goes south -- is that the point of the triangle? that it is likely to fall -- further to fall?
[12:33 pm] joeytsa : you got your wish
[12:33 pm] ppann : 5 more at 1219.25
[12:33 pm] ppann : locals are rockin it....2.9m spy block
[12:33 pm] ppann : shorted more at 19
[12:34 pm] candelas : Ben and co. definitely dressing it up
[12:34 pm] ppann : 3 more..
[12:34 pm] ppann : total 16 cars short
[12:34 pm] sonorant : this looks like another end of day run up
[12:35 pm] Kris : sonorant, have you read technical analysis of the financial markets?
[12:35 pm] ppann : 100 cars offered at 1220.....
[12:35 pm] ppann : the whole pit sold them
[12:35 pm] sonorant : it is easier when you have live examples
[12:35 pm] sonorant : part of it Kris
[12:35 pm] sonorant : there is a lot of information in there to absorb
[12:37 pm] sonorant : futures? at 1220 being sold short?
[12:37 pm] sonorant : is 100 a lot?
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : bb's curving down
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : macd trending down on ES
[12:38 pm] lightning : ITMN on a run
[12:38 pm] ppann : SB is selling them
[12:38 pm] ppann : this should be a good drop
[12:38 pm] ppann : yup and 160 offered at 1219 by devonshire
[12:38 pm] sonorant : okay, but what is the implication? of selling a lot of 1220 futures?
[12:39 pm] candelas : what color are they?????
[12:39 pm] joeytsa : TZA will run on this
[12:39 pm] Kris : they used to be called cars cause of the railroad cars that carried the product
[12:39 pm] ppann : not one MM is buying
[12:39 pm] ppann : yes it should on tza....I'm going to kill this trade
[12:40 pm] joeytsa : already am on this side
[12:40 pm] sonorant : and does everyone know this, or just you?
[12:40 pm] sonorant : who is SB and who is MM?
[12:41 pm] candelas : TZA was a nice piece of cheese
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : 2pts on ES :)
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : out 40cents on TZA
[12:41 pm] Kris : lol
[12:41 pm] ppann : nope direct from traders
[12:41 pm] qwert : ppann are you listening to the pit?
[12:42 pm] blakesax : Cramer trying to get 3X ETF's outlawed
[12:42 pm] blakesax : I know, he was really screaming about them on TV a little while ago
[12:42 pm] joeytsa : he's been on that bandwagon for over a year
[12:42 pm] ppann : took 10 off at 16.5
[12:42 pm] sonorant : ppann, traders in the pit that you know?
[12:43 pm] joeytsa : great ppann...thanks for that heads up..you correlated what i was seeing on my tick charts
[12:43 pm] joeytsa : nice little end to the weekend
[12:43 pm] ppann : 6 running
[12:43 pm] ppann : Totally awsome joey!!!!!
[12:44 pm] dan : Brent, after study hard on your strategy, my winning rate is over 90%
[12:44 pm] dan : thanks alot
[12:44 pm] joeytsa : nice job dan !!!!
[12:44 pm] lisas : Interesting, the market did this last Friday as well, moved up initially, then flipped, still early yet, but looks like same pattern here
[12:45 pm] candelas : great job Dan
[12:45 pm] joeytsa : just don't lose more on that 10% than you make on the 90%
[12:46 pm] dan : my lost was very small
[12:46 pm] eyes-inthenow : Everyone Have a awesome weekend
[12:46 pm] ppann : buy program
[12:46 pm] ppann : covered at 17
[12:46 pm] ppann : that was a nice little trade on the ES.......
[12:47 pm] joeytsa : i'm flat...and done for the week
[12:47 pm] ppann : all flat on that trade
[12:48 pm] dan : 1/2 on my lost and at least 1% on my winning
[12:48 pm] joeytsa : you rocked that, but even cooler was that you saw it coming and beat it like a pinata
[12:48 pm] pow : Long TZA into close
[12:48 pm] ppann : it was a fun friday
[12:49 pm] candelas : hey Mitch, that figure I mentioned I have been consistently doing for a while, well this week I broke through to 2.5X the amount on daily/weekly. Thx a million
[12:49 pm] derns : Pow...that trade makes a lot of sense to me, but I am still surprised how strong the market has been...would you consider swinging TZA over the weekend?
[12:49 pm] ppann : :))))
[12:50 pm] Brent : that's awesome Candelas. Great job man, solid
[12:50 pm] pandozzi : down for the day up for the week
[12:50 pm] sonorant : yes, well done candelas
[12:54 pm] mhaus : missed BRY
[12:55 pm] candelas : 6 min left
[12:56 pm] ppann : yah finally got that short off on CL....87.33
[12:56 pm] rd : got to go. so glad i switched to NT. So much easier to manage. I will be watching Kris webinar again now that i am set up. Have a great weekend to you all
[12:56 pm] victor51 : Kris, what's significance on SPY triangle. Do you think it will break out next week?
[12:57 pm] candelas : Obama reject invite by our governor to tour quake town
[12:57 pm] mhaus : GS moving up
[12:57 pm] ppann : short
[12:57 pm] ppann : so far 6 contracts
[12:57 pm] ppann : want to see if i can grab a couple in the 87.4
[12:58 pm] candelas : got the push was looking for in aapl
[12:58 pm] joeytsa : have a great weekend everyone
[12:58 pm] joeytsa : thank you Mitch, Brent,Kris and traders
[12:58 pm] lightning : thanks TSA and everyone. Off Monday, see you Tuesday
[12:58 pm] mhaus : I will also call it a day. Talk to you all on Monday.
[12:58 pm] skydiver : Bye Mitch - and all -- see you all Monday
[12:59 pm] dmitry : thanks tsa and everyone see u Monday
[01:00 pm] ppann : wonder if i should short these 1220's
[01:00 pm] qwert : good night everybody see ya next week
[01:01 pm] pow : good week everyone
[01:01 pm] ppann : 200x paper sellers at 1220 on the ES
[01:01 pm] ppann : yup 10 cars at 1220.25 [01:01 pm] ppann : gonna grab more at 21.5
[01:02 pm] lisas : Have a great weekend all!
[01:02 pm] ppann : short btw
[01:07 pm] ppann : gonna look for the 00's to convert into 3's...1220 to 1216
[01:08 pm] ppann : if not 1225 to 1217...5 convert to 7's......
[01:10 pm] ppann : Goldman Sachs pulls this move for years and years now......i luv spilling the beans...:).........at market top or market bottom ...
[01:11 pm] ppann : GS will do the opposite on the most extreme number ie....market top...he show he is buying....market bottom..he show he is selling...
[01:13 pm] ppann : when in reality,at market top he is blasting the ask selling all he can.....market bottom buying up everything coming his way......
[01:14 pm] ppann : normally the market will move 10 handles on a norm vol day off that trick
[01:15 pm] ppann : SB is selling 200 at 1220
[01:16 pm] ppann : they think down i guess...haven't even looked at any trend charts today....after forex....homework
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