Chat Highlights From 10/12/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:30 am] Mitch K: next trade on INFY is a long on next bottom
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching LQDT
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching INFY for trades both ways
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching CTXS for top to short
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching STI for bottom to buy
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching JBHT for trades both ways
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching LINE for top to short
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching FRAN for top to short
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching ECL for bottom to buy
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching PNC for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: monitoring SBUX
[06:32 am] Mitch K: AKAM top for micro short
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching JPM for bottom to buy
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching tcbi for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching ILMN and HP for bottom, that is not hewlett packard but hemerlich payne
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching BSFT for top
[06:34 am] Mitch K: monitor QCOM
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching HRS for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching MPC for bottom, going to be good
[06:35 am] Mitch K: BWA hot for a while, earnings
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching PSX for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching BWA for top
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching JPM for sell exit soon
[06:38 am] Mitch K: sorry
[06:38 am] Mitch K: celg
[06:38 am] Mitch K: still watching LQDT
[06:38 am] Mitch K: prefer little rebound if possible
[06:38 am] Mitch K: NPSP toppy for short
[06:39 am] Mitch K: consider covering BWA short
[06:39 am] Mitch K: still watching HRS
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching TDC for top
[06:39 am] Mitch K: SCMR trades both ways, got crushed
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching CTSH for short
[06:42 am] Mitch K: monitoring VRTX for trades both ways
[06:42 am] Mitch K: TDC toppy
[06:42 am] Mitch K: news on SCMR is a special dividend, not price drop
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching JBHT for top
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching ECL closer
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching NXPI for bottom
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching WLT for bottom
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching CHRW closer
[06:45 am] Mitch K: new lows on indexes, Nasdaq, SP500
[06:47 am] Mitch K: market bouncing
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching LINE for cover point
[06:47 am] Mitch K: you want to cover simultaneous with indexes bottom
[06:47 am] Mitch K: consider covering FRAN short
[06:47 am] Mitch K: consider covering JPM short
[06:48 am] Mitch K: monitoring drop in homebuilders:  DHI, TOL, PHM
[06:49 am] Mitch K: VRTX getting interesting
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider selling ILMN
[06:49 am] Mitch K: MPC bouncing
[06:49 am] Mitch K: cover BSFT short
[06:50 am] Mitch K: consider reducing TDC short
[06:50 am] Mitch K: forget SCMR, taking off screen
[06:50 am] Mitch K: 2nd helping short in NPSP
[06:50 am] Mitch K: should be out of BWA short
[06:51 am] Mitch K: when i say that, i try to get best price in several orders, one at market, 2 at limit orders
[06:51 am] Mitch K: LQDT bottoming
[06:52 am] Mitch K: COST will be a good long scalp today
[06:52 am] Mitch K: start watching COST for bottom,
[06:52 am] Mitch K: be flexible
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watchin BWA for 2nd helping short on top of this rise, prefer 68.50 area
[06:53 am] Mitch K: taking psx off screen
[06:53 am] Mitch K: repeat, COST going to be good, as well as VRTX
[06:53 am] Mitch K: starting to watch TYC, not as good as costco,
[06:54 am] Mitch K: LNKD bouncing
[06:54 am] Mitch K: watching TCBI
[06:54 am] Mitch K: JPM trade over, taking off screen
[06:55 am] Mitch K: INFY is still no bottom yet
[06:55 am] Mitch K: CHRW short might best be in series of smaller trades, taking profits on this short soon and watch for rebound to short into again, what we call working a trade short
[06:56 am] Mitch K: VRTX bottom
[06:56 am] Mitch K: IPO WDAY started trading, only want big drop, 12-15% consecutive drop
[06:57 am] Mitch K: IPOs are for very experienced traders, most of the time i ignore them, too difficult
[06:58 am] Mitch K: nice move up in market
[06:58 am] Mitch K: dont forget about COST
[06:58 am] Mitch K: as far as IPOs go, i dont trade for a thrill, i trade for consistent profits.  IPOs are hard to be consistent, takes way too much effort for what the risk is
[07:01 am] Mitch K: looking for exit point on TCBI long, soon
[07:01 am] Mitch K: COST just keeps getting better
[07:02 am] Mitch K: VRTX should bounce
[07:03 am] Mitch K: watchign LVS for top to short
[07:03 am] Mitch K: two best charts right now are COST and VRTX
[07:04 am] Mitch K: watching ECL for short on top of bounce too
[07:04 am] Mitch K: watching ECL closely to sell long
[07:05 am] Ed : getting pullback in SPY
[07:11 am] Mitch K: ECL toppy
[07:12 am] Mitch K: more downside for CHRW
[07:12 am] Mitch K: COST bottoming
[07:13 am] Mitch K: this is when you leave BWA alone or charts like that, its done its thing, all over.  you look for something else instead of tryign to see a trade in it
[07:13 am] Mitch K: consider covering BWA 2nd helping short
[07:13 am] Mitch K: if you short ECL, make it small position
[07:15 am] Mitch K: VRTX bounce weak, not trusting it to stay in long trade too much longer
[07:16 am] Mitch K: consider selling TCBI if long
[07:16 am] Mitch K: INFY bouncing nicely
[07:16 am] Mitch K: COST too weak, aborting long here
[07:17 am] Mitch K: watching LNKD again for 2nd bottom to buy
[07:17 am] Mitch K: more downsid e on JBHT short
[07:18 am] Mitch K: ECL too strong to short
[07:20 am] Mitch K: watching EDU for bottom, take time now
[07:22 am] Mitch K: VVUS
[07:22 am] Mitch K: short top
[07:22 am] Mitch K: VVUS
[07:22 am] Mitch K: alert
[07:23 am] Mitch K: 17 prob holds on EDU
[07:23 am] Mitch K: EDU close to bottom
[07:25 am] Ed : SPY pulln back
[07:26 am] Mitch K: if i were to guess on VVUS target, probably 22.75 area
[07:27 am] Mitch K: watching CAM for bottom
[07:29 am] Mitch K: COST
[07:29 am] Mitch K: bouncing
[07:29 am] Mitch K: COST
[07:29 am] Mitch K: lol, right after i give up on ECL short,
[07:30 am] Mitch K: consider reducing EDU long
[07:31 am] Mitch K: you guys want some beautiful music?  not rowdy.
[07:32 am] Mitch K: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuv6kOxNgnE&am p;amp;feature=related
[07:32 am] Mitch K: this might be too much culture for a lot of you
[07:32 am] Mitch K: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DfHCa4O_4E&am p;amp;feature=related
[07:33 am] Mitch K: COST should have some legs
[07:35 am] Mitch K: that 35 cents on EDU is 2%
[07:35 am] Mitch K: the faster something drops like EDU, and the following spike tends to fizzle quickly, sort of like the flash fire theory
[07:41 am] Mitch K: COST has legs,
[07:42 am] Mitch K: because everyone else will be doing the same
[07:42 am] Mitch K: COST has been a really hot stock and when you see a big drop like this when it hasnt been correcting, only going up, you jump all over the bottom.  even though it failed on first bottom, you keep watching
[07:44 am] Mitch K: looking for over 98 on COST, or more, be flexible, very strong right now
[07:52 am] Mitch K: COST still strong on Lightning 2 min
[07:54 am] Mitch K: little toppy on COST here
[08:11 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[08:24 am] Ed : SPY still weak so far
[08:30 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[08:31 am] Ed : more sellers comning into markets
[08:58 am] Ed : would like more selling on HAIN for setup of  potential long
[09:58 am] Ed : nice short call on TCBI guys
[10:06 am] Ed : very tight range in SPY
[12:27 pm] Mitch K: how did you guys think the debate went last night betweenryan and biden?
[12:29 pm] Mitch K: what do you think the public perceived who was stronger?  looked about a tie to me with slight more credibility to Ryan
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: hey guys i wanted to apologize for messing some of you up on this webinar and release of the beta version of Lightning.  I made a last minute decision to pursue filtering out a lot of garbage trades and anytime you try a revision, it takes a lot of time.  But we got it working good.  Here is example of a few charts
[12:39 pm] Mitch K: This first one is CL, crude oil.  which was quiet today
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: SI, SIlver was also on the quiet side, you can see when it goes flat, you get that No Trading Zone NTZ in yellow
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: yellow is the area that Lightning suggests not to trade new positions
[12:41 pm] Mitch K: look at all that yellow, means its dead trading, dont touch it
[12:41 pm] Mitch K: you notice nice oscillations here and no yellow
[12:42 pm] Mitch K: big drop, big pop
[12:42 pm] Mitch K: here is HAIN, the stock
[12:42 pm] Mitch K: see these nice shorts here?  no yellow
[12:43 pm] Mitch K: this is 2 min
[12:43 pm] Mitch K: now when you buy there in blue circle area and are long and then you get a yellow area, just continue your position until next trade.  it really only is suggesting not to buy sell buy sell in the yellow area
[12:44 pm] Mitch K: isnt this the IPO WDAY today?
[12:45 pm] Mitch K: oh nice, good money there
[12:45 pm] Mitch K: this is first time ive looked at an IPO with Lightning, wow, that looks good
[12:48 pm] Mitch K: you talking here json?
[12:48 pm] Mitch K: this is a 2 min chart setting
[12:48 pm] Mitch K: back to crude oil here
[12:49 pm] Mitch K: we are working on this all weekend, trying to package it up for you, NO MORE TWEAKING!
[12:49 pm] Mitch K: ok you guys take care, have a great weekend
[12:49 pm] Mitch K: oh ok, this is crude oil
[12:49 pm] Mitch K: that means we are getting another surge of buying
[12:50 pm] Mitch K: this time i promise, lol
[12:55 pm] Ed : have a great weekend traders
[12:57 pm] Mitch K: try to review charts this weekend, it really pays off
[12:57 pm] Mitch K: ok you guiys take care

[06:12 am] mikewd2 -: good morning traders
[06:12 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Ed, everyone
[06:13 am] chinhngo  : good morning
[06:13 am] chinhngo  : watch  amd dropped 11 %
[06:14 am] mikewd2 -: AMD sick puppy
[06:15 am] doji  : Hi Mike, Chingo
[06:16 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:16 am] mikewd2 -: watching YOKU for breakout
[06:16 am] apple  : good morning to all attentive traders
[06:16 am] joeytsa  : a few gap ups: JBHT,LNKD,SAP,NPSP
[06:16 am] mikewd2 -: hi doji
[06:16 am] apple  : gm mike
[06:16 am] apple  : gm joey
[06:17 am] apple  : gm lisa
[06:17 am] apple  : gm doji
[06:17 am] apple  : gm chin
[06:17 am] joeytsa  : gap downs: STX,WDC,INFY,DLTR
[06:17 am] apple  : thx joey
[06:17 am] apple  : gm khall
[06:17 am] taco  : good morning all
[06:17 am] mikewd2 -: Biden, showed he is an a-s in debate last night.
[06:17 am] apple  : gm taco
[06:17 am] taco  : hi apple
[06:18 am] joeytsa  : WFC down also
[06:18 am] mikewd2 -: was that earning joey, or the talk about stress tests?
[06:18 am] joeytsa  : not sure actually
[06:18 am] skydiver  : gm all
[06:19 am] taco  : hi sky
[06:19 am] skydiver  : hey taco
[06:19 am] apple  : gm sky
[06:19 am] skydiver  : gm apple
[06:19 am] mikewd2 -: they reported book value was 27.10, loans 90 days pass due at 1.5B
[06:20 am] joeytsa  : WFC looks like mixed earnings
[06:20 am] apple  : thx mike
[06:21 am] mikewd2 -: yes joey, thanks
[06:21 am] mikewd2 -: also watching VRNG for break above 5
[06:22 am] joeytsa  : yeah,  it touched 5 pre-market
[06:22 am] eddy  : helllo all
[06:22 am] skydiver  : gm eddy
[06:22 am] mikewd2 -: hi eddy
[06:22 am] apple  : gm eddy
[06:22 am] taco  : hey eddy
[06:23 am] mikewd2 -: nice move on FAZ premarket
[06:26 am] Ed : qwert having internet issues
[06:27 am] apple  : gm E man
[06:27 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:27 am] apple  : we will send pos. vibes to qwert
[06:27 am] Ed : sounds good
[06:27 am] skydiver  : gm Ed
[06:27 am] apple  : ES dropping
[06:27 am] taco  : morn Ed
[06:27 am] elisha  : GM Mitch, Ed and all traders
[06:28 am] taco  : hi elisha
[06:28 am] elisha  : hi taco
[06:28 am] apple  : gm elisha
[06:28 am] elisha  : gm apple
[06:29 am] mikewd2 -: watching STM today also
[06:30 am] wade50  : watching TZOO
[06:34 am] doji  : YOKU
[06:35 am] joeytsa  : CLF trying to heat up
[06:35 am] doji  : Nice JPM
[06:36 am] apple  : gm wade
[06:37 am] mikewd2 -: WDAY IPO, cloud computing company
[06:37 am] wade50  : gm all  u dont hear from me cuz i cant type
[06:38 am] joeytsa  : VRTX spike down
[06:39 am] mikewd2 -: ROST
[06:42 am] skydiver  : S JOY 59.48 - late to post  - covered 58.93
[06:43 am] joeytsa  : nice sky
[06:44 am] skydiver  : :)
[06:44 am] skydiver  : busy morning -- -
[06:44 am] shark  : ;)
[06:44 am] joeytsa  : MLNX, low vol, down about $2 though
[06:44 am] doji  : Watching VRTX
[06:44 am] apple  : good job sky
[06:45 am] skydiver  : monitoring LNKD and JOY for longs - thnx apple
[06:45 am] joeytsa  : tighten VRTX if short
[06:46 am] apple  : thx joey
[06:48 am] joeytsa  : JBHT trying to bust thru $59
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : VRTX still falling
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : didnt get that last move
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : BIDU breaking out
[06:50 am] aussie123  : DOW keeps bumping my Pivot Point ...13360
[06:51 am] joeytsa  : ES trending between 1427-1430
[06:52 am] mikewd2 -: WDAY to open 20 above priced point
[06:52 am] apple  : 3 pts joey ...
[06:52 am] joeytsa  : VRTX ugly
[06:52 am] mikewd2 -: VRTX L 54.10
[06:53 am] skydiver  : L JOY 58.49  - covered 58.88  L CRM 152.97 - covered 153.31
[06:53 am] mikewd2 -: stop below yesterdays low
[06:54 am] mikewd2 -: LQDT could be at bottom, watching for bounce
[06:54 am] skydiver  : did I say coverd on my Longs?   need coffee
[06:54 am] mikewd2 -: push LQDT push
[06:55 am] joeytsa  : LQDT looks like it already bounced $1
[06:55 am] mikewd2 -: need more though joey
[06:55 am] joeytsa  : WDAY ipo open
[06:56 am] shark  : :)
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : UofM #'s coming out
[06:56 am] skydiver  : INFY - bottom??
[06:57 am] joeytsa  : prints are flying on WDAY
[06:57 am] joeytsa  : ES finally busted higher
[06:57 am] skydiver  : L INFY 43.47
[06:57 am] joeytsa  : see if it holds
[06:58 am] joeytsa  : totally agree
[06:58 am] skydiver  : tight stop on INFY and 1/4 normal position
[06:58 am] joeytsa  : COST ttrying to hold $97
[06:58 am] shark  : yeah, i heard membership fees going up @ COST
[06:59 am] skydiver  : no way shark!!!
[06:59 am] joeytsa  : markets up due to the UofM #
[06:59 am] shark  : CMG catching the wave up
[07:00 am] joeytsa  : yes shark, fees have gone up
[07:01 am] shark  : :(
[07:01 am] joeytsa  : WDAY trying to hold $48
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: CEO on CNBC
[07:03 am] joeytsa  : HAIN spike
[07:04 am] eyes  : Long VRTX .33 with stop .95
[07:04 am] joeytsa  : LQDT dbl bottom
[07:04 am] mikewd2 -: nice eyes, be patient with it
[07:05 am] joeytsa  : yeah, the prints really slowed on VRTX
[07:05 am] joeytsa  : they all must have jumped over to WDAY haha
[07:06 am] skydiver  : sold INFY L   43.47 - 43.69
[07:08 am] mikewd2 -: need a push thru 55.10 on VRTX
[07:08 am] mikewd2 -: sorry 45.10
[07:08 am] eyes  : now a good time to BE
[07:08 am] mikewd2 -: corretion 55.10 = haha
[07:08 am] mikewd2 -: hold your stop
[07:09 am] eyes  : i have 75 shares thinking of adding
[07:10 am] mikewd2 -: wait for a break above the pivot
[07:10 am] mikewd2 -: or at least above 45.10
[07:10 am] mikewd2 -: 55.10
[07:10 am] joeytsa  : thats twice mike, dont jinx yourself haha
[07:10 am] apple  : gm eyes
[07:11 am] mikewd2 -: not sure why i have 45 in my head
[07:11 am] mikewd2 -: especially when i'm long - lol
[07:11 am] joeytsa  : :)
[07:11 am] eyes  : GM Apple
[07:12 am] joeytsa  : ES testing a little support here
[07:14 am] shark  : watching COST
[07:14 am] mikewd2 -: VRTX testing my patience
[07:15 am] eyes  : i bought more
[07:15 am] eyes  : My break even is .69
[07:16 am] mikewd2 -: still looks good, just wish we would get that $1 bump
[07:16 am] eyes  : you move stop to BE
[07:16 am] eyes  : mike
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: actually i moved it to higher, but i'm in from 54.10
[07:17 am] Ed : i saw that u cheated on that entry mike. :)
[07:18 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, i had it placed when stock was at 55
[07:18 am] gum  : Mitch : have you backtested the new program? If you have could you share the results?
[07:18 am] skydiver  : watching LNKD
[07:18 am] Ed : i do it also
[07:18 am] shark  : me too, sky
[07:18 am] eyes  : Ok Mike I am Know at be
[07:19 am] doji  : Back from a conferece calll.... what did I miss?
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: should be a good place eyes
[07:19 am] shark  : hi doji
[07:19 am] doji  : Shark!
[07:19 am] taco  : hi Doji
[07:19 am] doji  : NFLX
[07:20 am] shark  : yeah NFLX die, die
[07:20 am] doji  : NUS
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: eyes, i'm out VRTX
[07:21 am] mikewd2 -: +0.80
[07:21 am] skydiver  : IPO - LNCO - open   FANG opening soon
[07:24 am] mikewd2 -: die VVUS
[07:25 am] shark  : AAPL testing pivot
[07:26 am] doji  : <615-635> Weekly Put/Call Open Interest High Range
[07:26 am] doji  : on APPL
[07:27 am] shark  : 635 call most traded today AAPL
[07:27 am] skydiver  : thnx shark
[07:28 am] shark  : SPY at be
[07:28 am] skydiver  : IPO - FANG opens in about 5 minutes
[07:28 am] doji  : Short APPL at 634,97
[07:29 am] shark  : in time for Halloween, sky?
[07:29 am] mikewd2 -: eyes are you out VRTX
[07:29 am] skydiver  : monitoring CF CRM  CAM for longs
[07:30 am] skydiver  : COST trying to bounce up - but . . .
[07:30 am] doji  : weak rebound in COST
[07:30 am] mikewd2 -: VVUS turning?
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : yeah, just not sure if its turning up or down
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : nice cons though
[07:32 am] doji  : VVUS Joey?
[07:32 am] mikewd2 -: yeah a bit worried, bought 25 puts
[07:32 am] taco  : try it sure
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : im listening to classical MItch
[07:32 am] skydiver  : LNKD
[07:33 am] shark  : daily pretty  strong, mike
[07:33 am] shark  : just some res at 100day
[07:33 am] taco  : i sang this in choir
[07:33 am] skydiver  : well . . LNKD   false alarm at moment
[07:34 am] joeytsa  : nice
[07:35 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: i like the Relaxation one
[07:35 am] shark  : i might fall asleep
[07:35 am] shark  : time for some AC/DC
[07:35 am] skydiver  : ava maria - drink lots of coffee shark
[07:36 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: tell me what you think of this....
[07:36 am] joeytsa  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjLItBgpA0&am p;amp;feature=plcp
[07:36 am] skydiver  : llike the yellow cap joey
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : thats our horse stable hat :)
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : JBHT 50cent spike
[07:37 am] Mitch K: not a jazz guy joey, short circuits my brain during trading
[07:38 am] joeytsa  : im not a jazz guy either, will put up some classical this weekend
[07:38 am] shark  : :) nice joey, where's the maid?
[07:38 am] Mitch K: was that you playing joey?
[07:38 am] joeytsa  : yeah, thats me
[07:38 am] Mitch K: great
[07:38 am] taco  : nice joey
[07:38 am] joeytsa  : will get you some chopin this weekend
[07:39 am] shark  : great play! ;)
[07:39 am] doji  : I always listen to AC/DC when I have my Argentinian secretary taking dictation.....
[07:39 am] shark  : lol
[07:39 am] Mitch K: yeah we play Rach 2 concerto, Chopin concertos,
[07:39 am] joeytsa  : nice
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: nice move up on LEAP
[07:39 am] eyes  : Well i tryed costco had a stop 96.30 took long .83
[07:39 am] skydiver  : ah . . music lovers . . . my kind of people :)
[07:40 am] Mitch K: hey joey, there is a guy in Las Vegas that went bankrupt on his Bosendorfer piano dealership, killer prices
[07:40 am] shark  : awesome eyes
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : really, didnt hear that
[07:40 am] skydiver  : FANG is now open
[07:40 am] Mitch K: he had $200k pianos go for about 60k
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : bosendorfers are up there in price
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: you did a long right eyes?
[07:40 am] Mitch K: I have a 9'6" in my living room
[07:41 am] joeytsa  : the piano in the video is a Boston, subsidiary or Steinway
[07:41 am] apple  : joey, you are great -- next time smile!
[07:41 am] skydiver  : yes - those are expensive -- sold a few of those years ago --
[07:41 am] joeytsa  : of Steinway
[07:41 am] eyes  : yes
[07:41 am] mikewd2 -: your still in and winning then
[07:41 am] skydiver  : nice eyes on COST
[07:41 am] shark  : COST over vwap
[07:41 am] mikewd2 -: target 1 should be about 50% retracement
[07:42 am] eyes  : ya got stoped out
[07:42 am] mikewd2 -: how? there wasn't a pull back
[07:42 am] mikewd2 -: not on 2min
[07:42 am] skydiver  : eyes ???
[07:42 am] apple  : great movie on the making of a steinway - Note by Note The Making of Steinway L1037.  Takes a year to make one.
[07:46 am] lisas  : wlt
[07:46 am] apple  : thx MK, E and everyone.  gotta go early.  everyone have a wonderful weekend.
[07:46 am] joeytsa  : bye apple
[07:47 am] taco  : bye apple
[07:47 am] skydiver  : take care apple -- see you
[07:47 am] joeytsa  : Mitch: this is the best i could do in a few minutes...
[07:47 am] joeytsa  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNhElKfzh14&am p;amp;feature=plcp
[07:47 am] elisha  : bye apple
[07:48 am] shark  : bye apple
[07:49 am] taco  : nice joey, you and stephen colbert look a bit alike
[07:49 am] shark  : rofl
[07:49 am] mikewd2 -: Tony Horton coming up on CNBC joey
[07:49 am] joeytsa  : :)
[07:49 am] Mitch K: nice joey,
[07:49 am] joeytsa  : thanks
[07:49 am] Mitch K: your bench is too low
[07:49 am] joeytsa  : its not adjustable
[07:49 am] shark  : love Chopin, great job :)
[07:49 am] Mitch K: nice playing
[07:49 am] joeytsa  : thank you
[07:50 am] Mitch K: this was played in the PIanist movie
[07:50 am] joeytsa  : correct
[07:50 am] Mitch K: you know what piano is in that old house he was playing for the German officer?
[07:50 am] joeytsa  : also played in the tv show Sarch Connor Chronicles, when the female terminator does a ballet dance
[07:50 am] Mitch K: i think it was an AUgust Foster
[07:50 am] joeytsa  : wow
[07:52 am] mikewd2 -: eyes, you notice on COST on 2min, that not one candle is lower than the previous.
[07:52 am] skydiver  : COST being good
[07:52 am] mikewd2 -: there's your boy joey on CNBC
[07:53 am] Ed : also drew trendline for ur reference
[07:53 am] Mitch K: hey joey, try putting 4 books of equal thickness under legs, about 3/4" lift,  will be easier technique
[07:53 am] Mitch K: under bench i mean
[07:54 am] mikewd2 -: first sign of weakness on COST
[07:54 am] elisha  : Ed, did you enter where candle pierced trendline?
[07:54 am] Ed : would have been good entry, I had to make a quick run at that time
[07:55 am] elisha  : thx
[07:58 am] reshef  : CCI How meny days 28?
[07:59 am] Ed : hey reshef. I need to take that off, I dont use it. Just had up on chart for last couple years and forget it
[08:02 am] mikewd2 -: VRTX nearing lod
[08:03 am] shark  : you out of VVUS?
[08:03 am] shark  : puts?
[08:03 am] mikewd2 -: no, still in shark
[08:04 am] shark  : hmmm...
[08:04 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, i know
[08:06 am] reshef  : stz
[08:10 am] mikewd2 -: VRTX
[08:11 am] shark  : NFLX testing lod
[08:15 am] eddy  : test
[08:16 am] eddy  : screen is distorted is it just me ?
[08:16 am] doji  : Back from a 2nd conference call..... what did I miss?
[08:16 am] shark  : TSA screen looks fine to me, eyes
[08:16 am] shark  : eddy
[08:17 am] eddy  : ok  thanx shark
[08:21 am] mikewd2 -: MNST chart is a nice one
[08:22 am] Ed : sure is
[08:24 am] doji  : Are in MNST Mike?
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: no doji, just noticed the chart
[08:25 am] doji  : I took it out of my screen yesterday.... dang
[08:25 am] doji  : filled Wednesday's gap
[08:26 am] doji  : 57.40 is the 50dMA
[08:29 am] doji  : Watching TSO
[08:30 am] mikewd2 -: me too doji
[08:30 am] doji  : MNST
[08:34 am] doji  : GMCR
[08:35 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on VRTX long
[08:41 am] mikewd2 -: stopped and it takes off - haha
[08:42 am] Ed : hey guys/gals do u see what i see on 1minute chart of VRTX?
[08:42 am] doji  : 1min candles?
[08:42 am] Ed : bear cup
[08:43 am] doji  : Support at yesterday;s low
[08:43 am] Ed : support also at low, yes doji
[08:43 am] elisha  : Ed, please point to the bear cup
[08:44 am] elisha  : Thank you, so cup with no handle?
[08:44 am] doji  : Bear cup at the break of 54
[08:44 am] mikewd2 -: i should have had my stop a few cents below yesterdays low, missed that
[08:45 am] doji  : I know always draw a line on yesterday's H/L on every stock
[08:45 am] doji  : manually as TOS doesn't have it
[08:46 am] mikewd2 -: i actually was at two cents below yesterdays low of 54.50, and it went down and got me
[08:46 am] mikewd2 -: sorry 53.50
[08:46 am] shark  : AGNC
[08:46 am] mikewd2 -: QCOR hod
[08:46 am] Ed : no wonder im crazy, i look at so many different styles of charts
[08:47 am] joeytsa  : ES needs to hold 1420
[08:47 am] shark  : haha
[08:47 am] elisha  : it is so obvious since you pointed it out
[08:47 am] shark  : charts by Matisse, Picaso, Renoir
[08:47 am] Ed : i think VRTX is stuck
[08:47 am] joeytsa  : :)
[08:47 am] Ed : yea
[08:47 am] doji  : hahaha
[08:48 am] doji  : Ed "The Painter" Moody
[08:48 am] joeytsa  : not much on VRTX L3
[08:48 am] doji  : Body painter Ed?
[08:48 am] mikewd2 -: need one more penny on my stop
[08:48 am] joeytsa  : bunch of 100 share amounts
[08:49 am] mikewd2 -: H/S on 2min forming on VVUS?
[08:51 am] joeytsa  : MCK nice 50cent moves all morning
[08:51 am] doji  : QCOR hitting yesterda's high
[08:56 am] joeytsa  : HAIN still trying to find a bottom
[08:58 am] joeytsa  : last candle was decent vol..ugly chart though
[08:59 am] Ed : been nice to have 3 more bars like that
[08:59 am] Ed : atleast
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : yeah
[08:59 am] jsn13  : cos it's friday lunch time now?
[08:59 am] mikewd2 -: right shoulder setting up on VVUS
[09:00 am] doji  : HAIN still weak
[09:00 am] Ed : i will take high probability trades during lunch. all others i pass
[09:00 am] joeytsa  : good plan
[09:02 am] doji  : HAIN long 57.97
[09:02 am] doji  : tight stop
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: thought you said it was still weak - haha
[09:04 am] doji  : Yeah....
[09:04 am] mikewd2 -: nice breakout on QCOR
[09:04 am] doji  : stopped 5c loss.....
[09:04 am] joeytsa  : you tried
[09:05 am] mikewd2 -: trying to close the gap up from 8/22-23
[09:07 am] mikewd2 -: HAIN should be close
[09:08 am] joeytsa  : TCBI has been a dog too
[09:08 am] doji  : S3=57,15
[09:08 am] doji  : HAIN
[09:08 am] shark  : any news HAIN
[09:08 am] mikewd2 -: dont' see any
[09:09 am] shark  : thx mike
[09:11 am] shark  : needs to break thru 10min ma on vol
[09:11 am] shark  : HAIN
[09:11 am] Ed : HAIN is a no touchy for me, at this time
[09:12 am] doji  : Need to recover my 5c loss...
[09:12 am] Ed : no extreme selling, me watchy from sidelines
[09:13 am] joeytsa  : just bleeding
[09:13 am] shark  : at S3 HAIN
[09:13 am] doji  : yeap
[09:14 am] Ed : many breakdowns
[09:14 am] mikewd2 -: closed VVUS puts +0.08, 20 contracts
[09:14 am] shark  : :) nice mike
[09:15 am] taco  : shark, what is s3?
[09:15 am] shark  : i use indicators called Pivots, taco
[09:15 am] taco  : ahh
[09:16 am] taco  : where can i learn about pivots?
[09:16 am] shark  : you can google it
[09:16 am] taco  : k thanks
[09:17 am] doji  : you can get the pivots using http://www.frestockcharts.com
[09:17 am] doji  : they are the most used
[09:20 am] taco  : cool thanks, got it
[09:21 am] doji  : Load a chart and then add pivots for the day... they change daily so use on intraday charts
[09:21 am] doji  : HAIN
[09:22 am] mikewd2 -: missed tried for 56.50 hain
[09:22 am] doji  : 57.17
[09:22 am] shark  : :)
[09:23 am] doji  : something is wrong with my quotes in TOS....
[09:23 am] joeytsa  : convert them from pesos to dollars  :)
[09:23 am] doji  : had a limit order at 56.87 and was filled at 57.17....
[09:23 am] mikewd2 -: might get my 56.50 afteral
[09:23 am] joeytsa  : thats not right
[09:24 am] doji  : will call right now
[09:24 am] shark  : ouch
[09:24 am] doji  : QCOR
[09:27 am] reshef  : Ed, What is the stochastic you work with?
[09:29 am] Ed : I dont use them
[09:29 am] doji  : CLF at 40
[09:29 am] Ed : but I think a setting the some are using is 6,5,4
[09:29 am] reshef  : Thanks
[09:29 am] Ed : no problem
[09:30 am] joeytsa  : has anyone compared stochastics 6,5,4 to 8,7,6 ??
[09:30 am] Ed : i kknow scientist but Im sure the 6,5,4 will give quicker signal
[09:31 am] Ed : Im no scientist
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: HAIN L 56.50, stop dime below lod
[09:31 am] joeytsa  : yeah, just wasnt sure if that is good or not
[09:31 am] joeytsa  : HAIN closing gap from august
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[09:31 am] Ed : I noticed once market conditions change I saw Mitch change to that setting
[09:32 am] joeytsa  : maybe will put charts side by side and watch
[09:32 am] doji  : Technical issues with TOS... having problems to place orders... tried QCOR and said I need to enter a valid symbol.....
[09:32 am] shark  : lot of support on these previous tops -HAIN daily
[09:32 am] doji  : same with NAIN
[09:32 am] doji  : HAIN
[09:32 am] mikewd2 -: good idea
[09:33 am] doji  : so no rason to stay looking at charts... see ya later
[09:33 am] Ed : c ya doji
[09:33 am] shark  : you taking off doji?
[09:33 am] joeytsa  : bye doji
[09:33 am] taco  : bye doji
[09:33 am] eddy  : bye doji
[09:33 am] shark  : gotta get them fixed
[09:33 am] Ed : guess qwert could not get internet issues fixed
[09:33 am] joeytsa  : thats no fun
[09:34 am] doji  : It seems that they just lauched the new TDA website and having issues to connect with TOS
[09:34 am] doji  : See ya later
[09:34 am] shark  : bye doji
[09:36 am] mikewd2 -: out half HAIN +0.85
[09:36 am] shark  : nice mike
[09:37 am] eddy  : MIke how did you know you chould have entered at the price you entered?
[09:37 am] mikewd2 -: WLT
[09:37 am] eddy  : wat was the signal?
[09:38 am] joeytsa  : great trading mike !!
[09:38 am] mikewd2 -: it was getting near the gap close from 8/22-23 like i mentioned and then just went nearest half dollar
[09:39 am] mikewd2 -: didn't get it first time at 56.50 so got in 56.58
[09:39 am] taco  : had a great day, thanks all. enjoy your weekend!
[09:39 am] mikewd2 -: i'm all out now, had a 30 cent trailing stop
[09:40 am] shark  : :)
[09:40 am] Ed : c ya taco
[09:40 am] shark  : bye taco
[09:40 am] eddy  : bye taco
[09:40 am] mikewd2 -: WLT providing nice tradeable signals on stochastics. haven't traded though
[09:40 am] shark  : enjoy a burrito ;)
[09:40 am] taco  : ciao, gotta dr's
[09:41 am] reshef  : tcbi
[09:45 am] mikewd2 -: watching VRTX
[09:46 am] joeytsa  : ES in tight range
[09:47 am] eyes  : See you all later
[09:47 am] eddy  : bye eyes
[09:47 am] Ed : c ya eyes
[09:53 am] joeytsa  : tighten TCBI if short
[10:06 am] joeytsa  : yep
[10:06 am] joeytsa  : over an hour
[10:11 am] elisha  : Do you have charts linked together with different time periods so when you pull up a symbol you are automatically looking at 1 min, 15 min and daily?
[10:11 am] elisha  : or do you do that manually?
[10:11 am] shark  : 2 local dem's brwaling 1mile from my house
[10:11 am] shark  : should be interesting -on CNBC after break
[10:13 am] Ed : yes elisha, when I pull up chart, it is linked and pulls up 1, 15min and daily
[10:13 am] elisha  : Thank you Ed!
[10:13 am] Ed : no problem
[10:14 am] elisha  : Does on symbol with those 3 linked charts take up an entire screen?
[10:14 am] elisha  : on = one
[10:16 am] Ed : i have 1 screen that shows for large view 1min and daily
[10:17 am] Ed : and then on 1 creen, one 15minute chart linked to the large screen. then the rest of my charts are all 1 minue, usually 22 small 1minute charts
[10:18 am] elisha  : Thank you again Ed for the visual
[10:18 am] joeytsa  : nice
[10:18 am] elisha  : no pun intended
[10:18 am] Ed : u dont have to have that many. Most important is time frame ur trading on and atleast 15min or daily chart
[10:19 am] elisha  : good to know, I have a thired screen I want to hook up with my laptop
[10:19 am] Ed : sounds good
[10:20 am] elisha  : well, %wise it's half again as much
[10:20 am] Ed : too much to quickly becomes over kill
[10:21 am] elisha  : I can believe that - I'm still trying to get over the whiplash I got from the first week in this room trying to keep up with youse guys
[10:21 am] Ed : i worked from 1 monitor, to 3 then 6 and now Im finished at 10
[10:21 am] joeytsa  : FRAN vol spike down
[10:21 am] Ed : all depends on trader. I know some been trading for while only use 2 monitors
[10:22 am] elisha  : thanks Ed, I needed to hear that
[10:23 am] Ed : same with trading, some trade 1 strategy and make tons, some trade many strategies.
[10:23 am] shark  : :)
[10:24 am] elisha  : thanks Ed, you're kind of like yoda, aren't you
[10:24 am] shark  : just in time for Halloween, there's your character, Ed!
[10:24 am] Ed : lol
[10:24 am] shark  : got to practice the voice, now
[10:25 am] Ed : but who is yoda?
[10:25 am] elisha  : seriously?
[10:25 am] Ed : yep
[10:25 am] shark  : you under 20?
[10:25 am] Ed : 41
[10:25 am] elisha  : timeless sage from star wars
[10:25 am] joeytsa  : mmmm, mind what you have learned, save you it can  :)
[10:25 am] elisha  : funny joey
[10:25 am] Ed : no wonder, never watched it
[10:25 am] cowboyh  : may the force be with you ed
[10:26 am] Ed : never wanted to see it
[10:26 am] shark  : too busy studying NFLX charts on the weekend?
[10:26 am] Ed : lol
[10:26 am] Ed : just always thought even as kid was unrealistic. just my thoughts
[10:27 am] shark  : all out HAIN long here +1.00
[10:27 am] Ed : maybe i should rent original movie so I can atleast say I have seen it
[10:28 am] shark  : ;)
[10:28 am] joeytsa  : you have to watch all 6 to know the story
[10:28 am] shark  : see if you like the original one, though, first
[10:28 am] joeytsa  : i just saw Wicked last month,  now i cant watch Wizard of Oz anymore the same
[10:29 am] Ed : forget it, too much work.
[10:29 am] shark  : haha
[10:29 am] Ed : any clipnotes
[10:29 am] elisha  : just say thank you - was meant as a compliment
[10:29 am] jsn13  : shark, may i know how do u identify the potential support level for entry? was it the 50 sma (daily) that u r using?
[10:29 am] Ed : thank you very very very much
[10:30 am] jsn13  : i mean on HAIN long...
[10:30 am] joeytsa  : lunchtime, see you all in a bit
[10:30 am] murano  : Before you thank her you need to see what Yoda looks like.
[10:30 am] elisha  : bye joey
[10:30 am] Ed : c ya joey
[10:30 am] eddy  : im done here for the day
[10:30 am] eddy  : bye all
[10:30 am] Ed : seriously? LOL
[10:30 am] Ed : c ya eddy
[10:31 am] elisha  : bye eddy
[10:31 am] shark  : when it retested 10min break out at 12:33, I bought
[10:31 am] jsn13  : google it ed....
[10:31 am] Ed : i am now
[10:32 am] shark  : also had a small position from 12:22 from 1st 10min break
[10:32 am] Ed : wow. we almost look like twins
[10:32 am] Ed : Im taller
[10:32 am] elisha  : good to know
[10:33 am] shark  : lol
[10:33 am] Ed : oh and skin color is tad different
[10:33 am] jsn13  : ok nice shark....got it...thanks....
[10:33 am] shark  : he must have sat under a green sun lamp
[10:34 am] shark  : did you trade HAIN, Ed?
[10:35 am] Ed : no
[10:35 am] shark  : would it have qualified at anytime off the bottom with your style?
[10:35 am] Ed : i was on sabbatical at that time
[10:35 am] jsn13  : not high probabilty enough at this lunch time?
[10:35 am] shark  : rolf, oh, okay :)
[10:35 am] shark  : rofl
[10:35 am] Ed : no it never did
[10:36 am] Ed : for the time o f day
[10:36 am] jsn13  : ok ed, can u show us some nice lunch time high probabilty trades?
[10:37 am] shark  : HAIN testing vwap
[10:37 am] Ed : dont see any
[10:37 am] jsn13  : what do tehy look like? any example from today or yesterday if any?
[10:37 am] Ed : either news movers, or any fast mover with extreme move sellers or buyers
[10:38 am] Ed : i will only play those during lunch hour
[10:38 am] jsn13  : visually, something like volume spikes with consecutive same coloured big bars?
[10:39 am] Ed : fast mover, drop move up of 3% or more in minutes
[10:39 am] jsn13  : something like VRTX yesterday..ok thanks for the tips...
[10:40 am] Ed : other than that I become really skeptical, especially during 12pm to 1pm est
[10:40 am] jsn13  : did u take that TCBI short?
[10:40 am] Ed : exactly VRTX yesterday was prime ex.
[10:40 am] Ed : nope
[10:41 am] jsn13  : ok thanks....nice to know....
[10:42 am] Ed : and I have an extremely high % on those types of trades, that why I call it my hihest probability trade
[10:43 am] jsn13  : as VRTX wont occur that frequently, do u remember any other regular trades as of yesterday's lunch time?
[10:44 am] Ed : thats importan to know as trader also, which type of trades are u getting better %
[10:44 am] jsn13  : ok thanks...
[10:45 am] jsn13  : i will look into my trades and find out...
[10:46 am] Ed : was not during lunch time but others that were similar what I call my highest prob. trade from yesterday  OSK   CLWR  VRTX  PCS. these were ones i was able to catch and trade
[10:47 am] Ed : i categories all my trades
[10:47 am] jsn13  : ok nice to have examples....how do u categorize them?
[10:49 am] Ed : type 1) fast movers, news movers, buyout rumors. 2) short/long after hittin support/resist. 3) consolidatin move up/down 4) breakout hod or breakdown lod 5) gaps
[10:51 am] Ed : This is why its good to know for ur strategy ur %. If ur down for the day as example, you can always just focus on ur "bread and butter" trade which should be ur most successful type of trade
[10:51 am] jsn13  : for number 2, can u show us some examples?
[10:52 am] jsn13  : r they considered less straightforward? or was it like first hour trades?
[10:52 am] Ed : its any stock not meeting the other criteria
[10:52 am] Ed : this is just my defined catergories
[10:52 am] jsn13  : ok nice....
[10:52 am] jsn13  : makes very good sense....
[10:53 am] jsn13  : perfect as reference....
[10:53 am] jsn13  : thanks....
[10:53 am] eyes  : gold selloff
[10:53 am] shark  : thx, Ed
[10:54 am] Ed : just sharing how one can approach and breakdown what they trade. Trading is a business and it like each category is a department
[10:55 am] Ed : some just like the deparment of trading breakout/breakdowns as ex.
[10:57 am] shark  : wow, left another .50 on table w/ HAIN
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: no real vol in these bounces on VRTX
[10:57 am] jsn13  : huh i like money making departments.....but would like to focus on reversals for now....
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: me too shark got out 54.90
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: 57.90
[10:58 am] mikewd2 -: getting some vol in this VRTX spike
[10:58 am] jsn13  : mike, u reentered HAIN? at what price was ur 2nd entry?
[10:59 am] shark  : can we work on exit signals, Ed?
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: 57.60 jason, waited to a higher high off the bottom,
[11:00 am] shark  : looking at HAIN: total vol diminishing, but stock held 10min all the way up
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: had to leave so i just put in a target, unfortunately it hit
[11:00 am] shark  : yeah, I thought you were still gone
[11:01 am] shark  : 59.04 = 100day ma HAIn
[11:02 am] jsn13  : ok thanks mike.....nice trade...
[11:03 am] mikewd2 -: i need to just trade TSO, been providing great trades for last several weeks.
[11:03 am] elisha  : Hain gapping down
[11:06 am] shark  : not a gap, elisha
[11:07 am] shark  : broke thru several short term ma's
[11:07 am] elisha  : ok
[11:08 am] elisha  : is that a falling window?
[11:17 am] reshef  : TSO Short?
[11:19 am] Ed : does not fit my style reshef
[11:19 am] reshef  : What do u mean?
[11:20 am] Ed : for instruments I trade, I have a trading plan written out, and if it does not fit, I do not trade it
[11:21 am] mikewd2 -: have you ever showed us your trading plan Ed?
[11:21 am] Ed : in other words I do not trade everything that gives a signal
[11:21 am] reshef  : thanks
[11:21 am] Ed : No, have not
[11:21 am] Ed : I wrote it out in pen 2 years ago
[11:22 am] reshef  : Can I get it by mail?
[11:22 am] Ed : however I have shared many of the things that are in my trading plan everyday with you all
[11:22 am] mikewd2 -: so can you scan it and place in documents folder?
[11:23 am] reshef  : I am with you only few day's
[11:24 am] Ed : I think sharing template would be more useful, since a trading plan is unique to the individual as it pertains to the individual
[11:24 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, sounds good
[11:25 am] mikewd2 -: MAKO steady down trend today
[11:25 am] Ed : I dont mind sharing but dont think it would be that useful unless you want to know more about me
[11:26 am] joeytsa  : only if you include pictures :)
[11:26 am] shark  : :)
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: HAIN still moving up
[11:26 am] elisha  : how long have you been trading?
[11:26 am] elisha  : if you don't mind
[11:27 am] Ed : like it starts out with mindset: my weaknesses, my strenghts, my trading goals, methods, type of accounts and so on
[11:28 am] Ed : thats why I say I share it with you guys all the time
[11:28 am] shark  : and how well you can jam on the guitar with joey!
[11:28 am] Ed : trading the right way or trading
[11:28 am] elisha  : both
[11:28 am] joeytsa  : :)
[11:30 am] mikewd2 -: LQDT slowing moving up since this morning tank
[11:31 am] Ed : I have been trading the right way elisha for 2 years, but I got started back in 1995
[11:32 am] doji  : And how was your trading from 1995 to 2010?
[11:32 am] elisha  : what happened two years ago for you to make the switch?
[11:32 am] doji  : loosers/winners?
[11:34 am] doji  : Elsihas, he started working extra hours on Saturday's nights...
[11:34 am] Ed : I started out investing money and managing money for others in 95 after failing at selling insurance and investtments from 94 to 95. But was always great researcher and stock picker
[11:34 am] doji  : Love changed the way he trades now
[11:34 am] elisha  : sardonic doji
[11:34 am] Ed : love is grand
[11:35 am] doji  : Hey Elisha, we all here love Ed.... just ask Apple
[11:35 am] elisha  : i know you guys do
[11:36 am] Ed : I got better with time and research i put in for stock picking and managing money. And did extremely well with great returns for clients. But preface to say that was not day trading
[11:36 am] Ed : One thing I noticed about the market dynamcis is that the timeframe to hold stocks was getting shorter and shorter
[11:36 am] Ed : when I cam into industry hold times were 5+ years
[11:37 am] Ed : by the time 2009 came around the hold times were 6months
[11:37 am] Ed : then they went from 6months to less.
[11:38 am] Ed : I did very well and not losing money for clients durin crashes of 1990's, 2002 and 2008. However, I know that there had to be another way to make money
[11:39 am] Ed : so thats when I began to want to swithc gears and find another way, and I knew people took money out of the markets on daily basis
[11:39 am] doji  : And that is when he decide the Sarurday's nights job
[11:39 am] Ed : So, with my research background I began lookn for who could i seek out to learn
[11:39 am] Ed : good one doji
[11:40 am] mikewd2 -: YOKU back over 20
[11:40 am] Ed : So, after many trials and errors I came upon TSA
[11:40 am] cowboyh  : looking for yoda
[11:40 am] mikewd2 -: nice $1 move in WLT
[11:41 am] Ed : It was 11/22/2009
[11:41 am] Ed : many may say i had great background, but i will be 1st to tell you, completey different trading v. investing
[11:41 am] joeytsa  : totally different
[11:42 am] Ed : So, if u dont have background you are actullay better off
[11:42 am] Ed : no bad habits
[11:43 am] Ed : in investing you can buy at say 601 on aapl since ur lookn to hold longterm. On daytrading its not as forgiving
[11:43 am] Ed : So my issue was I was trying to daytrade with an investing background
[11:44 am] Ed : I loss a ton of my money, with these bad habits as with day trading entry/exit is critical
[11:44 am] Ed : PLus i had soo much success managing money and thought it should easily convert, not the case
[11:44 am] Ed : totally different
[11:45 am] Ed : So, I went to 1st seminar in orland that TSA had given and the light came on
[11:45 am] Ed : So I thought, I felt like a winner armed with alll Mitch and his staff taught
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : and when you feel like a winner... :)
[11:47 am] Ed : I recall like it was yesterday, tht 1st trading day back I tried to employ everything i learned in the seminar. so by end of day down 3k and 101 trades later was so disheartened
[11:47 am] lisas  : And he sat next to me, don't forget that!
[11:47 am] Ed : lol
[11:47 am] Ed : i surely did
[11:47 am] elisha  : are you kidding?!!
[11:47 am] Ed : Im seroius
[11:47 am] Ed : serious
[11:47 am] lisas  : I guess Va was losing big that week
[11:47 am] lisas  : did the sam
[11:48 am] lisas  : same
[11:48 am] Ed : so I sent emails to the stafff at TSA
[11:48 am] lisas  : **@####**
[11:48 am] jsn13  : sent email to ask for refund?
[11:48 am] Ed : by this time they got the beta up for trade room and I was a member, so my thought is yes, now I will get the ideas from the experts and make a tom
[11:48 am] Ed : tom=ton
[11:49 am] Ed : well every idea thrown out, i was tryn to trade, and each day was losing, not that ideas were bad, I was just trying to make it happen
[11:50 am] Ed : As I felt like I could, and would, so had right attitude just wrong approach
[11:50 am] Ed : after many losing days and winning days here and there I get a call frm TSA asking about how things were going
[11:50 am] doji  : Micth never called me... need a refund
[11:50 am] Ed : I told them the thruth, I feel like i know it but im losing
[11:51 am] eyes  : you spound like me
[11:51 am] Ed : So, I then was told to go to sem
[11:51 am] Ed : sem=sim
[11:51 am] Ed : which i did
[11:51 am] Ed : and spent some time with one of the moderators via email and room
[11:52 am] Ed : they told me about the very same books to read that we tell you guys
[11:52 am] Ed : I spent alot of time going through the books and spend alot of time studying the charts like Mitch was telling us in room
[11:53 am] Ed : And at that point felt like I was getting it
[11:53 am] Ed : What would happen then is I would have 2 good days and then series of bad days
[11:53 am] reshef  : Pring & Murphy?
[11:54 am] Ed : john murphy and mike douglas
[11:54 am] Ed : and also curtis faith
[11:54 am] elisha  : and steve nison
[11:54 am] joeytsa  : here is a video of Ed from that 1st trading day...
[11:54 am] joeytsa  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufsf_-a_H9Q
[11:54 am] Ed : LOL
[11:55 am] Ed : another good one elisha
[11:55 am] Ed : So, things felt like they were coming together
[11:55 am] lisas  : funny joey
[11:55 am] Ed : and they were, I was getting more consistent
[11:55 am] joeytsa  : :)
[11:55 am] Ed : then i would revert back
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : not sure why we always revert to our bad ways
[11:56 am] Ed : So, when I went to last seminar march 2011, I hear at the seminar 'YOU MUST HAVE A TRADING PLAN"
[11:56 am] lisas  : This is great Ed, thanks for sharing!
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : its almost like we feel we dont deserve success, so we derail ourselves
[11:57 am] cowboyh  : I hear that Joey
[11:57 am] Ed : and yous should not trade until you have one written
[11:58 am] Ed : so 1st thing I did when I got back home is I spend the whole day writing my trading plan which is about 5 pages
[11:58 am] joeytsa  : should always physically write stuff down..plans,goals etc
[11:58 am] Ed : and I did not trade again until that was done, I then went back to basics, I traded 100shares until
[11:58 am] Ed : by the way I wrote my plan in one day
[11:59 am] Ed : So, I had to prove that i was good enough to increae share size
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : all that work is why you do so well now
[11:59 am] Ed : How did I do this, I had to be consistent before I could increas to 200 then 300, 400 and so  on
[12:00 pm] Ed : I also realized I had to respect the money
[12:00 pm] Ed : I knew I did not want to revert back to the mean and that is where discipline comes in to play
[12:00 pm] lisas  : When you were trading 100 lots, what did you do for targets, all out at once, or scale out?
[12:00 pm] Ed : I did all out at once
[12:01 pm] victor51  : Thanks Ed Great background and quite encouraging.  I like to study but looks like it will some time to win consistently and with confidence.
[12:01 pm] lisas  : Did you base exit on price points on chart, or an amount of profit?
[12:01 pm] Ed : So i became very consistent to really being able to make money at will, when sticking to discipline
[12:01 pm] Ed : I based exit on levels of support/resistance 1 st level
[12:03 pm] Ed : So, I sent an email to TSA and Mitch thankn them for everything and let them know that I was extremely consistent in my trading, he had his staff to email me here and there
[12:03 pm] Ed : and then I get a call from him
[12:03 pm] lisas  : If I remember, you tried to have entry very close to support/resistance so stop made for good Risk/reward ratio, correct?
[12:03 pm] Ed : long story short I was asked to become a moderator
[12:03 pm] Ed : yes  thats correct lisa
[12:04 pm] Ed : So, long story short there is hope, just dont let it be in the trae
[12:04 pm] Ed : trae=trade
[12:04 pm] lisas  : Can I ask you a question about choosing s/r?
[12:05 pm] Ed : so 2 more months will be 1 year of being moderator
[12:05 pm] Ed : yes lisa
[12:05 pm] lisas  : Look at TCBI 5 min chart
[12:05 pm] jsn13  : so ed, how does a trading plan looks like? what sections do have in the trading plan?
[12:06 pm] lisas  : at about 12:10 EST, there is a spike down at 47.63, the high off that spike is about 48.20
[12:06 pm] Ed : hey lisa do you still have the template I emailed you of trading plan
[12:06 pm] Ed : ok 12:05
[12:07 pm] Ed : yes I see it
[12:07 pm] reshef  : Can I get it too?
[12:07 pm] lisas  : If you entered long at the low would you use the low spike at 47.63 as resistance, or the upward level of 48.20.  I should have it Ed, but took a lot of stuff and backed it up when PC went off for repair, I can look
[12:07 pm] jsn13  : lisas, can u forward the trading plan to me?
[12:08 pm] lisas  : I'll look for it guys.
[12:08 pm] Ed : we will get it uplaod in room here
[12:08 pm] Ed : the trading plan
[12:08 pm] jsn13  : nice....
[12:08 pm] lisas  : I have several plans, need to be sure it's the correct one
[12:08 pm] doji  : Ed, I really think your trading sessions with the group on weekends will be great for everyone
[12:09 pm] jsn13  : very very crucial....it can help me organize my thoughts...
[12:09 pm] Ed : If i entered at that time lisa I would place a stop below the blue line you see the thick one
[12:10 pm] lisas  : Anyway, back to TCBI resistance around 48. Use the spike down price from 12:10, or the bounce upper limits of that down spike?
[12:10 pm] Ed : does tht help lisa
[12:10 pm] eyes  : what is the blue line
[12:10 pm] Ed : but when I quickly eyeball the chart I would not take that long
[12:11 pm] Ed : I will explain and point out why
[12:11 pm] lisas  : go back several hours from now
[12:11 pm] lisas  : I'm assuming entry at the first touch of red dotted line
[12:11 pm] Ed : same time 12:05
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : next larger timeframes were on downtrend
[12:11 pm] lisas  : What is the blue line?
[12:12 pm] lisas  : Not used to esignal
[12:12 pm] Ed : opening price
[12:13 pm] Ed : but whats questin
[12:13 pm] mikewd2 -: hope you guys took the LQDT long, i'm out +0.65
[12:13 pm] Ed : nice mike
[12:13 pm] Ed : make some money for me
[12:14 pm] eyes  : ED what is the blue line
[12:14 pm] doji  : Make a lot of money for our lunch next Satuday Mike
[12:14 pm] mikewd2 -: it breaks over 40, may re-enter
[12:14 pm] Ed : opening price
[12:14 pm] mikewd2 -: your on expense doji
[12:14 pm] eyes  : Mine shows 50.40
[12:14 pm] lisas  : Basically, on a spike down like you see in TCBI, if you enter below that, do you use the spike price as resistance, or the upper level of the move off the spike
[12:15 pm] jsn13  : ur opening is market opening price ro premarket openign price?
[12:15 pm] lisas  : But, looking at the chart, the spike price proved to be resistance I guess
[12:15 pm] Ed : if I dont show clear potential supprt, I will use the few cents below lowest candle
[12:16 pm] lisas  : ok, thanks. That's what I've been using, but some stocks continue on
[12:17 pm] doji  : LQDT hammer in 1min....
[12:17 pm] doji  : at 40
[12:17 pm] Ed : no problem
[12:17 pm] doji  : no volume for breakout
[12:17 pm] mikewd2 -: tried to short at 40.20, but missed
[12:18 pm] mikewd2 -: actually got it at 40.20 8 shares
[12:18 pm] Ed : hey lisa I also use areas of consolidation for potential support/resistance
[12:18 pm] mikewd2 -: that sucks
[12:18 pm] doji  : I thought you want to go long Mike
[12:18 pm] mikewd2 -: was until i saw the vol spike
[12:18 pm] doji  : ?
[12:19 pm] doji  : Voulme spike was at the fade breakout but then diminished
[12:19 pm] mikewd2 -: at least my commission is cheap on 8 shares at TS
[12:19 pm] victor51  : Did anyone rec'd any communication on Lightning webinar? are we on tomorrow?
[12:19 pm] elisha  : Ed, thank you for taking the time and making the effort to give us good info and encouragement at the same time
[12:19 pm] doji  : and on the daily chart LQDT is in a downtren
[12:19 pm] mikewd2 -: what time tomrw?
[12:19 pm] Ed : no webinar 2morrow
[12:20 pm] Ed : your welcome elisha
[12:20 pm] mikewd2 -: starting to think that lightning is a not coming!
[12:20 pm] Ed : does A & M have a 12th man
[12:20 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah we do!
[12:21 pm] Ed : just checking
[12:21 pm] victor51  : Thanks ed and mike.
[12:21 pm] Ed : hey mike, i wrote my plan in my doctor penmenship, If u can read it, ur a nurse, a pharmacist or a doctor
[12:22 pm] mikewd2 -: my wife is an LVN
[12:22 pm] eyes  : Good Night Everyone have a awesome weekend
[12:22 pm] Ed : i knew it, mike has a response for everything
[12:22 pm] Ed : take care eyes
[12:22 pm] mikewd2 -: come to papa
[12:22 pm] eyes  : you to ED
[12:22 pm] Ed : where can i find a pot of gold mike?
[12:23 pm] elisha  : bye eyes
[12:23 pm] mikewd2 -: in LQDT
[12:27 pm] Ed : if i find that pot of gold, will not have to work on saturday
[12:27 pm] Ed : alhtough i only work for 15minutes
[12:27 pm] joeytsa  : haha
[12:27 pm] jsn13  : was there a short in SRPT?
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: Ryan!
[12:28 pm] joeytsa  : Biden won, but was a complete jackoff
[12:28 pm] jsn13  : i mean a short setup for SRPT break of lod...
[12:28 pm] mikewd2 -: no way he won, didn't even know the facts in Libya
[12:28 pm] Ed : if u caught it breakn down from 29ish area when it consolidated for a while
[12:28 pm] joeytsa  : he still won
[12:28 pm] lisas  : Actually I prefer someone that can speak facts, Biden just shot his mouth off, much inaccurate.
[12:28 pm] joeytsa  : its all about perception
[12:29 pm] lisas  : He turned women voters off, not part of their plan
[12:29 pm] jsn13  : ok that would be the optimal entry....29...thanks...
[12:29 pm] mikewd2 -: setting their laughting making faces, etc didn't win points with the independents
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : ryan was much cooler
[12:29 pm] lisas  : Basically, all Ryan need to do was not mess up, and he did that
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : yep
[12:30 pm] mikewd2 -: very impressed with that guy and only a bullet away from the big job.
[12:30 pm] Ed : WDAY finally broke 50, missed it
[12:30 pm] Ed : should be good play for monday
[12:30 pm] mikewd2 -: LQDT may break out again
[12:31 pm] gum  : Biden was up on his game, hope the constant grin works against him !!!!
[12:31 pm] mikewd2 -: Biden just can't speak clearly.
[12:31 pm] mikewd2 -: long LQDT
[12:32 pm] lisas  : His situational awareness was way off, laughing while Ryan's talking about Iranian nukes? Really?
[12:33 pm] mikewd2 -: Ed, take a look at LQDT and tell me what you think
[12:33 pm] mikewd2 -: looking for a possible target
[12:33 pm] mikewd2 -: not thrilled with the overall volume
[12:34 pm] mikewd2 -: re-entered long at 40.24
[12:34 pm] Ed : on something like that I take some off and trail rest cuz they can come back on you at times
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : quick visual looks like $41 to me mike
[12:35 pm] joeytsa  : that would get it close to 50%
[12:35 pm] mikewd2 -: ok, i'm thinking 41, about half the drop
[12:35 pm] doji  : volume just drying Mike, could drop
[12:35 pm] joeytsa  : thats just a quick look i had
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : thanks Mitch,Ed, everyone..have a great weekend
[12:37 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:37 pm] mikewd2 -: you too joey
[12:37 pm] doji  : Bye Joey, see ya in a week
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : Ed, thanks for the lesson today on trading plans
[12:37 pm] elisha  : bye joey
[12:38 pm] Ed : no problem
[12:38 pm] Ed : will get the template up this weekend in toom
[12:38 pm] Ed : toom=room
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : cool
[12:38 pm] doji  : Great Ed
[12:38 pm] Ed : i like it cuz it ask you questions to compler ur plan
[12:40 pm] Ed : hey mike was think u had quick 1% on 1st move up
[12:41 pm] Ed : but thats how i play those, take some off on that 1st quick move which usually amounts to 1%
[12:41 pm] mikewd2 -: i just closed, want to watch lightning, thanks
[12:43 pm] mikewd2 -: is this 1 min?
[12:43 pm] mikewd2 -: or 2min?
[12:44 pm] jsn13  : what should we do if buy at 1st buy signal?
[12:45 pm] Ed : yes
[12:47 pm] Ed : hey jsn recall on that stock overall trend was down. So it gave short 1st of about 2 points and if u did take long looks like u would have stopped 1st time for about .50. From what i saw
[12:48 pm] jsn13  : ok thanks ed...so do we buy again on 2nd buy signal?
[12:49 pm] Ed : he is speakn on HAIN
[12:49 pm] jsn13  : was refering to prior trade....
[12:49 pm] Ed : personally jsn if it were me, after getting net overall of 1.5. I would move on
[12:50 pm] lisas  : projected time frame for webinar?
[12:50 pm] jsn13  : will we get info on when to use 1min and 2min charts? and how to handle mutiple signals?
[12:50 pm] Ed : 2points on short and loss of .50 long. would move on
[12:50 pm] jsn13  : during the webinar i mean....
[12:50 pm] jsn13  : thanks ed,,,,
[12:51 pm] jsn13  : good idea...
[12:51 pm] Ed : yes that will be covered
[12:51 pm] jsn13  : cos i see mitch switch between, 1min, 2min, range bar, renko, volume.....
[12:51 pm] Ed : I know some like to hone in on 1 stock for multple trades, but I tend to move on
[12:51 pm] doji  : Ok fellas, have to travel to Paris and Houston this weekend so see ya in a week.... will try to connect to say helloooo
[12:52 pm] jsn13  : i like to move on...
[12:52 pm] lisas  : Bye doji, have a safe trip
[12:52 pm] Ed : have safe trip doji
[12:52 pm] mikewd2 -: give me a call next friday doji
[12:52 pm] doji  : I wll meet the Great Mike in Houston next Saturday!
[12:53 pm] doji  : He promissed me to pay for the lunch... jajjaja
[12:53 pm] Ed : please do not come to my place of work. LOL
[12:53 pm] doji  : hahaha sure Mike, will call you on Friday
[12:53 pm] victor51  : Have a nice trip Doji
[12:53 pm] doji  : Love you all, have a nice weekend!
[12:54 pm] victor51  : Mitch, everything is just looking great. thanks
[12:55 pm] cowboyh  : have a good weekend everyone, see ya
[12:55 pm] mikewd2 -: Ed, did you not trade LQDT because of the vol?
[12:55 pm] Ed : i shorted it this am
[12:56 pm] mikewd2 -: very nice
[12:56 pm] Ed : but other than that did not play long
[12:56 pm] Ed : yea thats a weird one with big spread at times
[12:56 pm] elisha  : Good Night and Thyank you Mitch, Ed and everyone
[12:57 pm] mikewd2 -: have a good weekend team
[12:58 pm] lisas  : have a great weekend all

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