Chat Highlights From 10/11/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:16 am] Ed : good morning
[06:17 am] Ed : .
[06:25 am] Mitch K: should have a bullish opening today, Europe was up, last 4 days were down days
[06:26 am] Mitch K: most of those big dumper stocks wont drop as far but if it is an earnings disaster, they wont rebound easily
[06:29 am] Ed : looks like having issue with charts in room
[06:29 am] Mitch K: 30 seconds.  that first 45 min is critical for establishing yoru positions
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching CTB for top to short
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching FAST for top to short
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching CIT for bottom to buy, take time
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching TIF for top to short
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching RVBD for top to short, take time
[06:36 am] Mitch K: monitoring JCP for top
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching HAIN for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching PXDF for short
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching COH for top to short
[06:39 am] Mitch K: TIF toppy
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching VZ for bottom
[06:39 am] Mitch K: that was PXD on symbol
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching ONXX for top
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching FDX for top to short
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching CLMT for short, try for above 31.20
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching WLT for bottom to buy, cover if short
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching SINA for bottom to buy, cover if short
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching PII for top
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching BKS for top
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching BBG for bottom
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching FAST for 2nd helping short
[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching SWC for bottom to buy
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching BWA for bottom to buy
[06:48 am] Mitch K: lots of selling last minute or so
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching KRFT for bottom
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching CMI for bottom
[06:50 am] Ed : watch the 60ish area see how stock reacts to that area
[06:50 am] Mitch K: should get a bounce in indices
[06:50 am] Ed : monitor VRTX for potential short, strong right now so no hurry
[06:51 am] Mitch K: monitoring CERN
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching NXPI for bottom to buy
[06:55 am] Mitch K: consider covering this first helping short on CTB
[06:55 am] Mitch K: watching VRTX for top
[06:56 am] Mitch K: consider covering TIF
[06:57 am] Mitch K: if you are trading RLGY let it drop 12-15% before considering any bottom, needs to drop hard
[06:57 am] Mitch K: VRTX turning over
[06:57 am] Mitch K: im not watching it closely at all today
[06:58 am] Mitch K: consider covering RVBD
[06:59 am] Mitch K: watching VZ for 2nd bottom to buy
[06:59 am] Mitch K: watching P for bounce, low priced stock, high risk
[07:01 am] Mitch K: looking for 88.25 area to cover ONXX
[07:01 am] Mitch K: watching CTXS for 2nd helping short
[07:02 am] Mitch K: watching SPLK for top to short
[07:03 am] Mitch K: watching ELN for bottom to buy
[07:03 am] Mitch K: watching YUM for bottom to buy
[07:04 am] Mitch K: consider selling BWA long soon. watchign for microtrade short
[07:06 am] Mitch K: watching DISH for 2nd helping short
[07:09 am] Mitch K: good job on SPLK guys
[07:10 am] Mitch K: consider covering SPLK soon, very soon
[07:11 am] Mitch K: watching CTB for 2nd helping short, prefer 20.40 area
[07:12 am] Mitch K: watching TIF for 2nd helping short
[07:24 am] Mitch K: consider selling CERN if long
[07:24 am] Mitch K: TIF getting interesting for 2nd helping short
[07:27 am] Mitch K: watching PXP for top to short
[07:43 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[07:45 am] Ed : GMCR alert
[07:54 am] Ed : if u took GMCR short would cover some here
[08:02 am] Ed : out all GMCR short
[08:03 am] Mitch K: watching CTXS for bottom
[08:04 am] Mitch K: cover CTXS if short, watch for long entry
[08:09 am] Ed : neg. court ruling for AAPL, re. samsung selling galaxy product
[08:11 am] Mitch K: BBG turning over
[08:11 am] Mitch K: 3rd short on SPLK
[08:20 am] Ed : SPY trading near lod
[08:31 am] Mitch K: consider covering VRTX
[08:41 am] Mitch K: watching CL crude oil for bottom
[08:42 am] Mitch K: also watching ES for bottom
[08:46 am] Ed : VRTX
[09:02 am] Ed : if u took VRTX long would reduce
[09:05 am] Mitch K: consider covering 2nd helping short on TIF
[09:06 am] Ed : good eye been4given
[09:09 am] Ed : projecting lower sales
[09:09 am] Ed : DLTR doing presentation
[09:10 am] Ed : would reduce more VRTX long
[09:17 am] Ed : getting bounce in SPY
[10:23 am] Ed : so if ur new to trading or are not consistent "no touchy"
[10:23 am] Ed : this is advanced trade
[10:23 am] Ed : monitor CLWR for potential short, halted due to circuit breaker
[10:33 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[10:37 am] Ed : nice drop  in markets
[10:40 am] Ed : if u took CLWR short would cover here
[10:51 am] Ed : PCS alert
[11:01 am] Ed : would like more selling on TGT
[12:59 pm] Ed : have a great night traders

[06:03 am] mikewd2 -: good morning traders
[06:04 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Mitch, everyone
[06:05 am] skydiver  : gm Mitch, Ed, joey, miike
[06:05 am] mikewd2 -: Softbank rumor to acquire CLWR and controlling interest in S
[06:05 am] joeytsa  : thx mike
[06:05 am] doji  : Good morning Mike, Joey Sky
[06:06 am] skydiver  : gm doji
[06:06 am] mikewd2 -: PCS down
[06:06 am] khall  : good morning all
[06:06 am] skydiver  : gm khall
[06:07 am] khall  : gm sky
[06:08 am] doji  : AMZN, GOOD gapping up
[06:09 am] joeytsa  : also watching FAST,MLNX,CTB
[06:11 am] doji  : so lower jobless claims today... everything fitting nicely before election day...
[06:11 am] joeytsa  : nice debates tonight too
[06:12 am] mikewd2 -: Ryan hasn't debated since college.
[06:12 am] mikewd2 -: but i'm sure they have been working with him.
[06:12 am] skydiver  : should be fun debate tonite joey -- Biden always makes things interesting -- be interesting to see how Ryan handles him
[06:12 am] skydiver  : I'm sure mike :)
[06:13 am] joeytsa  : also here in NV, Heck/Berkley debate..very heated senate race
[06:13 am] mikewd2 -: Biden will keep bringing up Ryan's marathon time - haha
[06:13 am] skydiver  : :)
[06:13 am] joeytsa  : plus sports and horses...busy day :)
[06:13 am] skydiver  : keeps you out of trouble joey
[06:13 am] joeytsa  : our stable has a horse running today at Keeneland...win and we go to the Breedders Cup
[06:13 am] apple  : good morning to all confident traders
[06:14 am] apple  : good luck joey, gm
[06:14 am] apple  : gm sky
[06:14 am] apple  : gm mike
[06:14 am] skydiver  : gm apple
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : :)
[06:14 am] apple  : gm doji
[06:14 am] apple  : gm khall
[06:14 am] taco  : gm all
[06:14 am] apple  : gm ttaco
[06:14 am] skydiver  : gm taco
[06:14 am] taco  : hi hi:)
[06:15 am] eyes  : GM everyone
[06:15 am] doji  : Hi Tacobell
[06:15 am] doji  : Hi Apple
[06:15 am] doji  : Hi Ojitos
[06:15 am] apple  : gm eyes
[06:15 am] apple  : haha
[06:15 am] taco  : good morning doji, lookin for some good calls today
[06:16 am] apple  : gm E
[06:16 am] khall  : gm apple
[06:16 am] mikewd2 -: watching VRNG
[06:16 am] skydiver  : gm Ed
[06:16 am] taco  : hey ed
[06:16 am] shark  : gm all
[06:16 am] doji  : That was your winner yesterday, right Mike? Waht is your plan, long/short?
[06:17 am] taco  : shark, sky mike
[06:17 am] taco  : eyes
[06:17 am] apple  : gm shark
[06:17 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:17 am] apple  : gm lisa
[06:17 am] shark  : hi taco, apple, doji
[06:17 am] skydiver  : gm lilsa
[06:17 am] doji  : Hi Sharky... and thanks for your e-mail
[06:17 am] shark  : ;)
[06:17 am] joeytsa  : shorterm ES range 1433-1437
[06:17 am] skydiver  : gm shark - nice picts on facebook ;)
[06:17 am] shark  : thx sky
[06:18 am] shark  : big wrap party end of month
[06:18 am] mikewd2 -: watching MOS
[06:19 am] skydiver  : gotcha -- buddy of mine movie and production guy here in Portland - produced Kid's movies for big screen - Train Master, etc.   Phil Bransom
[06:19 am] shark  : nice...
[06:19 am] skydiver  : will have to get you two to connect sometime
[06:19 am] mikewd2 -: watching WLT
[06:20 am] shark  : :)
[06:20 am] shark  : I was soooo dang close to picking up S shares under $5 :(
[06:21 am] shark  : was watching this one for a longer term, play
[06:22 am] qwert  : good morning everyone
[06:22 am] skydiver  : gm qwert
[06:22 am] taco  : hi qwert and lisas
[06:23 am] apple  : gm qwert
[06:24 am] mikewd2 -: nice move on SLB, doji
[06:25 am] apple  : thx MK, gm
[06:26 am] mikewd2 -: FSLR moving premarket
[06:26 am] doji  : FSLR
[06:27 am] elisha  : GM Mitch, Ed and everyone
[06:27 am] apple  : gm elisha
[06:27 am] doji  : Not in SLB Mike
[06:27 am] khall  : gm elisha
[06:27 am] elisha  : gm apple
[06:28 am] elisha  : gm khall
[06:29 am] ben4givn  : clwr big gap up
[06:29 am] apple  : gm ben
[06:29 am] ben4givn  : hi apple and all
[06:30 am] mikewd2 -: CLWR being bought by softbank
[06:31 am] Ed : sorry guys charts not showing, its on my end
[06:32 am] joeytsa  : no prob Ed, thx for letting us know
[06:32 am] joeytsa  : nice pop on BIDU
[06:32 am] mikewd2 -: WLT moving
[06:33 am] skydiver  : RGLD moving up
[06:33 am] shark  : yeah, nice move WLT
[06:33 am] eddy  : hi all
[06:33 am] skydiver  : gm eddy
[06:33 am] doji  : NFLX
[06:34 am] shark  : die, NFLX, die
[06:34 am] skydiver  : FDX -
[06:34 am] skydiver  : wrong screen
[06:36 am] mikewd2 -: WHR
[06:36 am] mikewd2 -: SHLD
[06:37 am] mikewd2 -: Realogy's IPO, not sure symbol
[06:38 am] shark  : REALOGY price moved up from 32 to 35
[06:38 am] mikewd2 -: they just mentioned $27
[06:38 am] shark  : hmm...
[06:38 am] mikewd2 -: watching FLSR
[06:39 am] mikewd2 -: 32 to 35 was just mentioned
[06:39 am] shark  : size was increased from 32 to 35, not price, correction
[06:40 am] doji  : APPL at pivot
[06:40 am] shark  : must be  to 35 million sharess
[06:40 am] shark  : had to replay my tape to catch that
[06:41 am] joeytsa  : RLGY is the ipo ticker
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: PII
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : CMI pulling back
[06:43 am] mikewd2 -: SWC
[06:44 am] mikewd2 -: ty joey
[06:44 am] shark  : S nice sell off
[06:45 am] doji  : FSLR holding 21,5
[06:45 am] mikewd2 -: RLGY 32 to 32.5 on 4million shares
[06:45 am] shark  : thx, mike
[06:46 am] mikewd2 -: SSTK another IPO
[06:46 am] apple  : thx mike
[06:47 am] mikewd2 -: priced at 17, up 5 now
[06:48 am] doji  : Dang... mised S short
[06:48 am] shark  : yup
[06:48 am] doji  : Did you call it Shark?
[06:48 am] mikewd2 -: I just went long on S
[06:48 am] skydiver  : all out of TIF S
[06:48 am] skydiver  : thnx Mitch for TIF
[06:49 am] shark  : did not, doji
[06:49 am] doji  : Mike, are you in FSLR?
[06:49 am] shark  : still recovering on missing the long swing under $5 S
[06:49 am] chinhngo  : bought krft at 46.0
[06:51 am] doji  : KRFT still weak Chingo
[06:52 am] joeytsa  : ES still inside 1433-1437 range
[06:53 am] apple  : needs to break 1434
[06:53 am] joeytsa  : wasnt expecting today to be too active
[06:54 am] shark  : watching CMI closer
[06:54 am] joeytsa  : thought was that traders might be antsy until bank earnings tomorrow?
[06:55 am] doji  : CMG
[06:55 am] khall  : I don't know but nobody is really moving one way or the other are they?
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : not like yesterdays moves
[06:56 am] khall  : not at all
[06:56 am] doji  : $3 move in CMG
[06:56 am] doji  : in 1min
[06:56 am] doji  : and lost
[06:56 am] shark  : :)
[06:56 am] shark  : i make $ both ways, CMG, doji
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : RLGY open
[06:57 am] eddy  : Short S 5.70
[06:57 am] skydiver  : thnx Mitch
[06:57 am] shark  : S big drop
[06:58 am] eddy  : All out S short
[06:58 am] shark  : nice eddy
[06:58 am] mikewd2 -: got out a bit early eddy
[06:58 am] scalpman  : Cover 1/2 VRTX S
[06:58 am] doji  : APPL at pivot at 641
[06:58 am] eddy  : indedd
[06:59 am] eddy  : but it is ok  5 000 shares
[06:59 am] eddy  : im fine
[06:59 am] mikewd2 -: nice
[06:59 am] mikewd2 -: you gunslinger you! lol
[06:59 am] skydiver  : nice eddy
[06:59 am] eddy  : thx
[06:59 am] Ed : would only trade RLGY, if ur very consistent and proficient in ur trading
[06:59 am] skydiver  : thnx Ed
[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: i like Mitch's idea on IPO's, wait for the first big drop and then enter long.
[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: trade only once!
[07:00 am] skydiver  : good wisdom mike
[07:00 am] skydiver  : EXPE
[07:00 am] apple  : it's the best advice for ipo's -- first few minutes will give you whiplash
[07:01 am] joeytsa  : thats how we traded ipo in the dotcom days
[07:01 am] skydiver  : I am L  CMI at 86.81 - may have jumped the gun on it
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: FSLR moving
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: long from 21.52
[07:01 am] doji  : I asked you if you were long in FSLR Mike?
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: didn't see it doji, sorry
[07:02 am] doji  : np
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: to much going on
[07:02 am] eddy  : LONG S 5.56
[07:03 am] mikewd2 -: nice eddy, i'm back in long also
[07:05 am] skydiver  : all out of CMI L   be
[07:05 am] doji  : Nice short SPLK
[07:06 am] mikewd2 -: out half FSLR, 21.82 +0.30
[07:07 am] doji  : Out 1/2 SPLK short
[07:07 am] eddy  : all out S long
[07:08 am] mikewd2 -: very nice eddy
[07:09 am] eddy  : ya S was good
[07:09 am] doji  : aout another 1/4 SPLK
[07:09 am] shark  : :) nice eddy
[07:09 am] mikewd2 -: be careful going to the well to much on one stock
[07:09 am] doji  : ?
[07:09 am] apple  : excellent advice mike
[07:10 am] mikewd2 -: out half S, +0.17
[07:10 am] shark  : sweeet mike
[07:11 am] doji  : QCOR moving but needs more volume
[07:11 am] skydiver  : nice one mike - becoming a pro :)
[07:11 am] mikewd2 -: all out FSLR
[07:11 am] doji  : dang FSLR....
[07:12 am] doji  : all out SLPK.... my only trade of the day
[07:12 am] skydiver  : but nice trade doji
[07:13 am] mikewd2 -: PCS rebounding
[07:13 am] scalpman  : cover 1/4 on VRTX S
[07:13 am] skydiver  : SPY has been pretty flat for awhile
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : nice call on BWA
[07:15 am] eyes  : BTU
[07:16 am] eyes  : BTU looks Good
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: probably do to nat gas price outlook
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : the ES back to res
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : nat gas # in 10 minutes, crude at top of hour
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: thanks joey
[07:18 am] Ed : thx joey
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : :)
[07:18 am] apple  : thx joey
[07:18 am] skydiver  : ipo - KYTH -  opening in a couple minutes
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : tighten RLGY if you took it
[07:19 am] shark  : lower highs on SSTK
[07:19 am] shark  : lower lows
[07:19 am] apple  : is today ipo day?
[07:19 am] shark  : lol, yeah
[07:19 am] joeytsa  : must be the date..10/11/12 :)
[07:20 am] skydiver  : funny joey
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: call vol on S, 3:1
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : doesnt look like RLGY wants $34 just yet
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : and there is goes haha
[07:21 am] skydiver  : KYTH - now set to open 5 minutes later now
[07:22 am] joeytsa  : nice little run on crude
[07:23 am] apple  : very nice joey
[07:25 am] doji  : Watching FSLR
[07:25 am] skydiver  : KYTH - open
[07:25 am] joeytsa  : AAPL lod
[07:25 am] joeytsa  : finally stopped on RLGY
[07:26 am] mikewd2 -: nice joey
[07:26 am] joeytsa  : will keep eye on it for awhile
[07:26 am] skydiver  : PXP - takle over chatter - low volume however
[07:26 am] apple  : thx sky
[07:27 am] mikewd2 -: WLT hod
[07:27 am] joeytsa  : Es still having issues in the 1437 area, strong push will get it to 1440
[07:27 am] scalpman  : All out VRTX S ...good one ED.
[07:28 am] mikewd2 -: looking for 36.80 area on WLT long
[07:28 am] joeytsa  : was just going to ask if you were long WLT
[07:29 am] joeytsa  : nice move
[07:29 am] mikewd2 -: actually bought 35 calls
[07:30 am] mikewd2 -: FSLR toppy?
[07:30 am] khall  : holy cow - nat gas spiking up
[07:30 am] doji  : No shares to short on TDA... watch the 50dMA as support also
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : report out
[07:30 am] mikewd2 -: BOIL
[07:30 am] doji  : Watching EXPE, TID
[07:31 am] doji  : TIF
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : nat gas 72B, with 79B forecast
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : 77B last out
[07:32 am] khall  : thanks joey
[07:33 am] mikewd2 -: bullish number
[07:33 am] joeytsa  : np..sharon eperson too slow haha
[07:34 am] khall  : yeah, no kidding
[07:34 am] joeytsa  : HAIN ugly today
[07:36 am] joeytsa  : update on presidential betting line...
[07:36 am] joeytsa  : obama now $230-$100 , thats down $250 from the top, big move
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : vegas guy calling for a romney landslide
[07:38 am] shark  : you win $230 for $100 bet?
[07:38 am] mikewd2 -: works for me joey!
[07:38 am] joeytsa  : shark: yes, if you bet romney
[07:39 am] shark  : and for obama?
[07:39 am] apple  : nice move onHAIN
[07:39 am] joeytsa  : if bet obama, you get $230 to win $100
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: bet 230 to win 100?
[07:39 am] Ed : nice trading scalp
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: right
[07:39 am] doji  : HAIN nice rebound Joey..
[07:39 am] shark  : watching PCLN at $600 support
[07:39 am] joeytsa  : yeah nice so far
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : eye on CRR
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : $1.60 move past few minutes
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : lower vol
[07:41 am] doji  : QCOR
[07:41 am] reshef  : crr
[07:41 am] mikewd2 -: taking profits on Oct WLT calls, in 1.80 out 2.5
[07:41 am] joeytsa  : nice mike
[07:41 am] apple  : nice one mike
[07:41 am] mikewd2 -: starting to really like day trading with options
[07:42 am] shark  : :)
[07:42 am] apple  : took monthly instead of weekly?
[07:42 am] shark  : built in stop on longs, mike
[07:42 am] mikewd2 -: i did monthly on WLT, oct 20th
[07:43 am] apple  : better price
[07:43 am] mikewd2 -: and been doing more in the money options, to reduce time value
[07:43 am] joeytsa  : MLNX nice day
[07:43 am] khall  : nice mike
[07:43 am] mikewd2 -: WLT still on fire
[07:43 am] doji  : Pipe positive comments on QCOR....
[07:43 am] apple  : ES pushed above 1437
[07:44 am] mikewd2 -: never looked at options on QCOR - dang it
[07:45 am] apple  : CL pushing higher as well
[07:45 am] mikewd2 -: GS mentioned GMCR positively
[07:46 am] scalpman  : APOL watch
[07:46 am] apple  : hey scalp
[07:46 am] joeytsa  : out CRR
[07:48 am] skydiver  : sounds good mike -- guess I'll have to study that strategy and jump into options down the road
[07:51 am] joeytsa  : break time, decent morning, keep making money :)
[07:51 am] apple  : bye joey, have fun
[07:53 am] mikewd2 -: die QCOR die
[07:55 am] Ed : fyi: whenever an alert is issue its a fast moving stock, most likely news related. We are look to play the stock once get a signal going against the prevailing trend. These are advanced trades
[07:56 am] mikewd2 -: SRPT continues to provide nice moves up/down - haven't been trading it though
[07:57 am] jsn13  : in this case, Ed, where is ur entry? what is time and price for GMCR? it would be a good reference for us...
[07:57 am] elisha  : thx Ed
[07:58 am] taco  : have some appointments.. have a great rest of the trading day:)
[07:59 am] elisha  : bye taco
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: jason, problem with GMCR short is that your stop would need to be over 23 probably and that is more than 1%.
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: so i expect you didn't take it, right?
[08:00 am] Ed : just using round numbers and also OHLC combined with price action
[08:00 am] Ed : using 30 as round number
[08:00 am] mikewd2 -: correct
[08:01 am] shark  : PCLN puts paying :)
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: oil inventories rose 1.67M bbls
[08:01 am] apple  : nice shark, what did you get
[08:01 am] shark  : 590 put at break of $600
[08:01 am] shark  : weekly
[08:01 am] apple  : nice
[08:02 am] shark  : quick 100% profit
[08:02 am] apple  : excellent
[08:02 am] Ed : nice shark
[08:02 am] mikewd2 -: very nice play shark
[08:04 am] cowboyh  : ACI
[08:04 am] doji  : Wathcing FB
[08:04 am] doji  : GMCR
[08:04 am] doji  : Ed... you closed it too earlier
[08:05 am] Ed : nope, closed according to my  trading plan
[08:05 am] doji  : I am not arguing your trading plan....
[08:06 am] Ed : it helps me on saturday night
[08:06 am] qwert  : hahaha
[08:06 am] doji  : hahahaha... yeah I know that
[08:06 am] doji  : APPL has been weak today vs. the overall market
[08:06 am] elisha  : Is that the dancing thing?
[08:06 am] Ed : i know what u mean though
[08:07 am] jsn13  : ya mike i passed....
[08:07 am] doji  : Watching S
[08:09 am] mikewd2 -: H/S setting up on CLF on 1min
[08:11 am] doji  : GMCR short 21.5
[08:11 am] mikewd2 -: support pivot 21.37
[08:11 am] qwert  : splk
[08:11 am] scalpman  : Anyone still short GMCR?
[08:12 am] mikewd2 -: YOKU moving
[08:16 am] qwert  : nice on clf mike
[08:16 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, hope so looking for 41.30
[08:19 am] mikewd2 -: got out S long way too early
[08:20 am] mikewd2 -: FSLR
[08:20 am] doji  : FSLR
[08:21 am] mikewd2 -: you get stopped on GMCR, doji?
[08:21 am] doji  : YEs Mike at b/e
[08:21 am] doji  : OSK halted?
[08:21 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, bounced right off pivot
[08:22 am] doji  : But it's still weak Mike
[08:22 am] joeytsa  : dont 2nd guess your trades mike :)
[08:22 am] doji  : OSK - Ikahn announces tander offer for $32.5 per share
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: staying away from OSK, i always lose on Icahn offers.
[08:24 am] doji  : You are not comptable with him?
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: if you took YOKU long, consider taking some off
[08:25 am] mikewd2 -: covered CLF short, 41.38 +0.30
[08:26 am] doji  : yoku
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: all out YOKU
[08:28 am] doji  : osk
[08:29 am] joeytsa  : nice on YOKU mike
[08:29 am] joeytsa  : another one of your flock :)
[08:29 am] mikewd2 -: thanks joey, been a very good day so far
[08:29 am] joeytsa  : great to hear !!!!
[08:29 am] joeytsa  : you've been on a roll since that shoulder injury
[08:30 am] mikewd2 -: no since i quit swinging! lol
[08:30 am] joeytsa  : if it starts to heal, let me know and i will go all raul ibanez on you  haha
[08:31 am] apple  : lol
[08:32 am] jsn13  : mike well done! let this momentum continues....
[08:32 am] qwert  : hahaha
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: OSK is auto body, i thought it was kids clothes. haha
[08:33 am] doji  : What you don't kow is that it has been Mike's wife who has been trading for him....
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : you are thinking osh kosh bgosh
[08:33 am] apple  : haha, very funny
[08:34 am] apple  : it is clothing
[08:34 am] doji  : I'll break my hands now
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: ah, missed the space
[08:35 am] mikewd2 -: WLT moving up again -
[08:35 am] eddy  : all out short S 5.96 5.88
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: YOKU turned over didn't short it though
[08:43 am] joeytsa  : nice spike on VRTX
[08:43 am] doji  : APPL
[08:43 am] mikewd2 -: yeah joey, bounced off 60.00
[08:45 am] mikewd2 -: wow, hope you got the short.
[08:46 am] qwert  : wow vrtx
[08:46 am] apple  : that was fast!
[08:46 am] reshef  : vrtx
[08:46 am] reshef  : vrtx
[08:49 am] mikewd2 -: my first thought was to go long on VRTX once it hod, but looked at daily and had some strong resistance at 60.
[08:50 am] mikewd2 -: then too late to short
[08:51 am] scalpman  : VMW watch
[08:51 am] mikewd2 -: fyi: the ken calhoun breakout play could have been a disaster
[08:51 am] mikewd2 -: with out stop in place with order.
[08:52 am] apple  : no time on that one
[08:53 am] joeytsa  : that was wild
[08:53 am] doji  : YOKU became a good short... for this who took it
[08:53 am] joeytsa  : mike: depends on where you had the breakout set
[08:53 am] murano  : DLTR
[08:53 am] mikewd2 -: yeah doji, i didn't take it
[08:53 am] qwert  : is anyone trading vrtx
[08:53 am] mikewd2 -: 35 cents over hod
[08:53 am] joeytsa  : he uses 8cents on scalps
[08:54 am] mikewd2 -: don't think so
[08:54 am] joeytsa  : on daily the breakout would have been 60.35..never got there
[08:54 am] mikewd2 -: but need to review again
[08:54 am] mikewd2 -: did you short?
[08:54 am] doji  : Nope
[08:54 am] joeytsa  : yeah, but late
[08:54 am] doji  : Did you short VRTS Mike?
[08:54 am] mikewd2 -: still weak
[08:54 am] doji  : VRTX
[08:54 am] mikewd2 -: no
[08:54 am] mikewd2 -: too fast
[08:55 am] mikewd2 -: time i figured out it was not a breakout and had strong resistance at 60 it was done
[08:55 am] doji  : VRTX saying see no significant difference in weight gain
[08:55 am] qwert  : dltr dumping
[08:55 am] mikewd2 -: wonder why that is bad?
[08:56 am] mikewd2 -: Ed, did you play VRTX?
[08:59 am] qwert  : dltr parabolic
[09:01 am] Ed : yes still in long
[09:01 am] mikewd2 -: in and out dltr, nice
[09:02 am] Ed : i got lucky on the short
[09:02 am] joeytsa  : same here
[09:03 am] Ed : i had an order from this am siting at 59.97
[09:03 am] Ed : for short
[09:03 am] joeytsa  : nice job..much better than my market order haha
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: thanks for telling us, haha
[09:03 am] Ed : I did i called it this am
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: oh, didn't see it
[09:03 am] apple  : damn good, E!!!
[09:03 am] Ed : [06:50 am] Ed : watch the 60ish area see how stock reacts to that area
[09:04 am] Ed : re: VRTX
[09:04 am] joeytsa  : great call
[09:04 am] mikewd2 -: wow - bummer missed it
[09:04 am] Ed : hope u got some of the long
[09:04 am] mikewd2 -: nope no trade
[09:04 am] Ed : joey owes u a trade then
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : only have 2 hands :)
[09:05 am] ben4givn  : watchin DG for long
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : DG/DLTR falling in sync
[09:05 am] ben4givn  : what's up with them?
[09:05 am] Ed : my charts are showing gaps
[09:08 am] ben4givn  : thanks, never saw a signal to short
[09:09 am] joeytsa  : looks like the teleprompter went out haha
[09:09 am] mikewd2 -: DLTR L 43.60
[09:10 am] ben4givn  : l dg at 49.57
[09:12 am] joeytsa  : VRTX a monster
[09:13 am] Ed : u got that right
[09:13 am] joeytsa  : closing here
[09:14 am] ben4givn  : stopped 49.10
[09:14 am] joeytsa  : give me 1 of those a day..i will be happy :)
[09:15 am] apple  : excellent
[09:15 am] apple  : looks like the ES stopped dropping
[09:15 am] qwert  : nice joey
[09:15 am] joeytsa  : preferable right on the open so i can call it an early day haha
[09:16 am] Ed : hey ben4given why did you use 49.10 as stop?
[09:17 am] ben4givn  : Low of day or close
[09:18 am] Ed : 49.05 was lo, just thinkn if ur risking to 49.10 why not few cents more place hair below lod
[09:19 am] ben4givn  : true... didn't look too closely at previouw LOD
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: 49.02 lod
[09:19 am] ben4givn  : previous
[09:19 am] Ed : that way ur giving trade chance to work, or successful retest
[09:19 am] Ed : or=on
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: go a bit under whole numbe support
[09:20 am] ben4givn  : OK, thanks for advice
[09:20 am] Ed : so if 49.02 was lod i would use 48.97
[09:20 am] joeytsa  : agreed mike, esp being that close to the whole #
[09:20 am] Ed : or 48.98
[09:20 am] Ed : but like says away from whole number
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: eddy you still in S short
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: i hope so
[09:20 am] Ed : like mike says, keep away from the whole numbers
[09:21 am] joeytsa  : also try to weight that stop loss with your profit target
[09:21 am] ben4givn  : back in at $49.24
[09:21 am] Ed : good point so know how much ur risking b4 u get into trade
[09:21 am] joeytsa  : cant give yourself a 40cent loss if you only have a 30cent profit target
[09:21 am] mikewd2 -: very true joey
[09:21 am] Ed : good advie joey
[09:22 am] joeytsa  : sometimes tough to do in the heat of the moment though
[09:22 am] joeytsa  : comes with practice, eyeballing
[09:22 am] apple  : right
[09:23 am] joeytsa  : but looking at the chart, profit target was probably 70cents
[09:23 am] joeytsa  : from ben's entry
[09:25 am] joeytsa  : DLTR losing $43
[09:25 am] mikewd2 -: DLTR still weak
[09:28 am] mikewd2 -: DLTR setting up for nice 3min fade play
[09:28 am] joeytsa  : VRTX triple top here
[09:38 am] Ed : nice call joey
[09:38 am] mikewd2 -: covered VRTX S, in 59.85 out 59.30
[09:39 am] mikewd2 -: like those multiple hod's, sets up a nice firm stop
[09:40 am] mikewd2 -: push DLTR push
[09:40 am] doji  : Back.... dang missed VRTX rebound...
[09:40 am] mikewd2 -: dang way to early on VRTX exit
[09:40 am] doji  : and the short!!!!!
[09:41 am] doji  : Mike you need to get me a couple of nice trades... I only did 1 trade today...
[09:42 am] mikewd2 -: sorry doji, all happing to fast
[09:43 am] doji  : yes... on these days I'd like to trade the whole day.... but I am quite busy at work
[09:43 am] mikewd2 -: will consider adding to DLTR long above 43.55
[09:44 am] doji  : Watching TSO
[09:48 am] mikewd2 -: nice doji, you take it long?
[09:49 am] mikewd2 -: WLT still moving
[09:49 am] doji  : Nope
[09:49 am] mikewd2 -: adding to DLTR long
[09:51 am] chinhngo  : i follow you mike long dltr at 43.51
[09:51 am] mikewd2 -: I'm long form 42.80, just added but might should have waitied for a break above 43.60.
[09:53 am] doji  : I am just watching... you have the leverage of having entered earlier Mike
[09:53 am] mikewd2 -: pretty decent 3min fade play from brent days
[09:54 am] joeytsa  : yeah, i just dont have patience to wait 3min  haha
[09:54 am] mikewd2 -: i love those plays
[09:54 am] joeytsa  : for 1 candle
[09:56 am] mikewd2 -: moved stop to 43.43 - giving a dime on the second order
[09:56 am] joeytsa  : nice trading
[09:56 am] joeytsa  : cant get hurt
[09:57 am] mikewd2 -: first time i've added to a winner since brent/kris days
[09:57 am] mikewd2 -: this is such a slow motion 3min fade - haha
[09:57 am] joeytsa  : much smarter than adding to a loser
[09:57 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, i've done that to
[09:57 am] joeytsa  : yeah, thats why i cant do them
[09:58 am] joeytsa  : works great on slower movees though
[09:58 am] mikewd2 -: getting bored, but going to let it play otu
[09:58 am] mikewd2 -: out
[09:59 am] apple  : good job mike
[09:59 am] mikewd2 -: we need to have Ed or Mitch, give a live update while trading.
[10:00 am] mikewd2 -: I'm certainly not the best to be doing it - lol
[10:01 am] apple  : DLT looks like it's consolidating on 2 min
[10:01 am] apple  : DLTR
[10:01 am] mikewd2 -: yeah apple, i assume that would indicate a move down - right?
[10:02 am] apple  : most likely from where it is sitting right now
[10:03 am] mikewd2 -: a consolidation after a drop indicates further downside - is that right Ed?
[10:03 am] joeytsa  : depends on volume
[10:03 am] mikewd2 -: just opposite of the move up consolidation
[10:04 am] mikewd2 -: Chin, you have a stop in place on your DLTR - right?
[10:04 am] joeytsa  : lower vol on consolidation usually means trend will continue
[10:04 am] qwert  : doesnt consolidation usually =continuation
[10:04 am] mikewd2 -: right, my point qwert
[10:05 am] mikewd2 -: just making sure we all knew that
[10:05 am] chinhngo  : yes mike stop at 43.40
[10:05 am] joeytsa  : higher vol on cons usually indicates end of trend
[10:05 am] mikewd2 -: good job chin, you were a bit late in your entry
[10:05 am] Ed : all great points by joey and qwert
[10:05 am] mikewd2 -: only reason i got a second lot was do to my original buy
[10:05 am] joeytsa  : just like when pennants/flags form
[10:06 am] mikewd2 -: was a good long on TSO doji, if you would have taken
[10:07 am] mikewd2 -: i'm all out DLTR 43.43
[10:07 am] mikewd2 -: +0.63 on half, -0.10 on second half
[10:08 am] mikewd2 -: now i should short, but probably won't
[10:08 am] joeytsa  : nice profit
[10:08 am] chinhngo  : stopped out
[10:08 am] qwert  : nice mike
[10:08 am] apple  : good job
[10:09 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, did a bigger position than i normally do, but like the setup
[10:09 am] mikewd2 -: sorry chin, hope you learned though, you were late to the party
[10:09 am] apple  : gotta act fast
[10:09 am] lisas  : dg may move up, at least I hope it does after this much time
[10:10 am] mikewd2 -: same issue lisas, consoldiation on down move
[10:11 am] qwert  : monitoring rgld
[10:11 am] lisas  : yes, same issue, stop in place, waited this long, will see
[10:12 am] mikewd2 -: GS says Europe looks much better than 6 months ago, haha could they look any worse?
[10:13 am] mikewd2 -: die QCOR die
[10:14 am] lisas  : mike, did you just decide to get into DG, huge volume spike at 49.50
[10:14 am] mikewd2 -: no lisas - haha
[10:14 am] mikewd2 -: mostly down volume also
[10:15 am] mikewd2 -: over 10:1
[10:15 am] lisas  : I was looking at my histogram on the matrix and it shrank before my eyes, couldn't figure it out until I saw the big bar at 49.50
[10:16 am] mikewd2 -: need QCOR to give up 21.00
[10:16 am] apple  : ok
[10:17 am] ben4givn  : DG finally moving
[10:18 am] apple  : patience worked for you lisa!
[10:19 am] lisas  : yes, I had to go do dishes and things like that to leave it alone
[10:19 am] mikewd2 -: nice lisas
[10:19 am] apple  : clean more often
[10:19 am] lisas  : would have preferred to be in TSO though
[10:19 am] khall  : way to go lisas
[10:19 am] apple  : nice chart
[10:20 am] qwert  : nice lisa
[10:21 am] mikewd2 -: DLTR short working out, but didn't take it
[10:21 am] lisas  : Yeah, I don't know how far DG will go with DLTR heading down. DG has a better daily chart. Moved stops to lock in some profit
[10:22 am] mikewd2 -: these stocks kind of show you that you can't not be 100% on any patter. DG and DLTR same downward move and consolidiation.
[10:23 am] mikewd2 -: a bit supprised S isn't moving up with CLWR
[10:24 am] lisas  : and overall market weak right now
[10:25 am] mikewd2 -: want to short DG at the pivot, but just going to watch
[10:25 am] apple  : DG did not have the pullback as DLTR did on the 5 min, DG move was more gradual
[10:25 am] eddy  : pivot or vwap mike for dg short?
[10:26 am] eddy  : pivot is at 50.63 long qay to go
[10:26 am] mikewd2 -: they look to be same now on my chart eddy
[10:26 am] eddy  : oh ok
[10:26 am] doji  : 49.76 was S2 for DG... is that the pivot yo referredto Mike?
[10:27 am] mikewd2 -: both 49.82 on my Camarilla pivots
[10:27 am] apple  : DG starting to turn
[10:27 am] mikewd2 -: he shoots and he scores! haha
[10:27 am] eddy  : teid to short
[10:27 am] eddy  : did not get a fill
[10:27 am] eddy  : teid=tried
[10:28 am] lisas  : Gotta run, hope to be back latter
[10:28 am] apple  : bye lisa have fun
[10:29 am] qwert  : bye lisa
[10:30 am] Ed : bankers hours mrs. lisa
[10:30 am] apple  : lol
[10:31 am] lisas  : No, it's run my husband to pick up his car after new tires hours
[10:31 am] Ed : ok.
[10:31 am] apple  : it's okay lisa
[10:31 am] lisas  : I'm so relieved you approve, lol
[10:31 am] eddy  : bye lisa
[10:31 am] Ed : :)
[10:31 am] khall  : ha ha
[10:31 am] doji  : QCOR
[10:32 am] mikewd2 -: yeah doji
[10:33 am] doji  : Are you short?
[10:33 am] mikewd2 -: yes, via puts.
[10:33 am] mikewd2 -: bought Oct 20th, 23 puts
[10:33 am] doji  : Because Mithc recommended in the DSR as long
[10:33 am] mikewd2 -: yes, exactly
[10:34 am] mikewd2 -: lol
[10:34 am] qwert  : hahaha
[10:34 am] mikewd2 -: just day trading it
[10:34 am] doji  : How much did you pay?
[10:34 am] mikewd2 -: the spread is big on these puts, paid a bit too much - but working otu
[10:34 am] mikewd2 -: 2.23
[10:34 am] mikewd2 -: 2.65 ask now
[10:35 am] apple  : nice mike
[10:36 am] doji  : bid is 2.20 Mike
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: yes, been a big spread
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: most of the options i've been daytrading hasn't had that big of spread. usually a nickel or dime
[10:38 am] mikewd2 -: DLTR moving nice
[10:38 am] doji  : On weekly options, bigest open interest is now 19call and 22puts
[10:38 am] eddy  : all out CLWR short 1.94 1.84
[10:39 am] mikewd2 -: your on fire eddy!
[10:39 am] Ed : eddy eddy eddy eddy
[10:39 am] eddy  : been a good day
[10:39 am] eddy  : been a good day
[10:39 am] doji  : and as far as I now the writters make money as long as it stay between that range
[10:39 am] doji  : 19-22
[10:40 am] eddy  : this is the first advanced trade i ever succeed in...got lucky big time
[10:41 am] apple  : good job eddy
[10:41 am] Ed : thats why its good to study patterns
[10:42 am] eddy  : worth going long now ed?
[10:42 am] Ed : not my style of trade, Im done with it and moved on
[10:42 am] eddy  : will do the same then
[10:43 am] apple  : eddy you did good on the first trade, sometimes it is better to walk away, follow E
[10:43 am] eddy  : yup
[10:44 am] doji  : APPL at 630
[10:51 am] reshef  : PCS
[10:51 am] apple  : thx reshef
[10:52 am] mikewd2 -: LEAP
[10:52 am] apple  : same business as PCS
[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, GS announced LEAP price $10 and possible buyout by S
[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: that was this morning, so i've been watching it
[10:53 am] apple  : oh, thx
[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: now, Softbank eyeing PCS
[10:55 am] mikewd2 -: wonder if they are going to buy anyone or just making money on the announcements.
[10:56 am] apple  : sounds like fun just making announcements...
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: I'm long LEAP
[10:58 am] eddy  : all out long LEAP 6.15 6.20
[10:58 am] mikewd2 -: quickie eddy
[10:58 am] eddy  : ya better safe i guess
[10:59 am] reshef  : TGT
[11:02 am] mikewd2 -: all out LEAP 6.165 to 6.23
[11:03 am] eddy  : good one mike
[11:03 am] mikewd2 -: watching VRNG
[11:03 am] mikewd2 -: thought we would see more eddy
[11:04 am] eddy  : still 1 % is not bad mike
[11:05 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, just don't like trading that many shares on lower priced company
[11:05 am] joeytsa  : agreed mike
[11:06 am] apple  : smart mike
[11:06 am] joeytsa  : price can blow right thru stops
[11:06 am] mikewd2 -: there it goes again
[11:06 am] eddy  : ya :)
[11:06 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, only reason was because of GS report this morning
[11:06 am] joeytsa  : and trading for 6cents here 10 cents there not worht it to me
[11:06 am] apple  : agreed....
[11:06 am] mikewd2 -: me either, thought i would see 50 cents
[11:07 am] eddy  : depends pon the  umber of shares
[11:07 am] mikewd2 -: still not worth it eddy
[11:07 am] joeytsa  : still not worth it
[11:07 am] qwert  : can someone tell me how to set an alert on a ninja chart
[11:08 am] joeytsa  : more shares just means you might get stuck holding the bag
[11:08 am] mikewd2 -: i would have never traded LEAP, if not for the GS early morning report
[11:09 am] mikewd2 -: not worth the gamble, and it is a true gamble on a 6 dollar stock
[11:09 am] joeytsa  : yeah, esp if you arent looking at L3
[11:10 am] joeytsa  : at least LEAP has shares out there
[11:10 am] mikewd2 -: wonder if softbank buying them all? haha
[11:10 am] mikewd2 -: i think PCS is a good pump and dump trader
[11:10 am] joeytsa  : 10K available at 6.28
[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: LEAP moving again
[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: not trading it though
[11:15 am] mikewd2 -: to bad it didn't make that move quicker
[11:17 am] joeytsa  : markets are up, but for some reason it just doesnt feel like an upday to me
[11:17 am] eyes  : Good Night Everyone
[11:18 am] joeytsa  : bye eyes
[11:18 am] qwert  : hey eyes hows your day
[11:18 am] eyes  : not good but tomorow another day
[11:20 am] qwert  : one of the best things about trading always another day
[11:20 am] apple  : bye eyes have a good evening
[11:30 am] apple  : gotta go, everyone have a wonderful evening.  thx.
[11:30 am] Ed : c ya aapl
[11:30 am] joeytsa  : enjoy apple
[11:30 am] eddy  : calling it a nite
[11:30 am] eddy  : see ya al tom
[11:30 am] joeytsa  : bye eddy
[11:30 am] mikewd2 -: cu eddy
[11:31 am] Ed : c ya eddy
[11:31 am] elisha  : bye apple, eddy
[11:35 am] mikewd2 -: CNBC discussing the three way - pcs, s, clrw
[11:36 am] mikewd2 -: now saying softbank is not in talks with PCS
[11:54 am] joeytsa  : will tonights debate be following certain topics or is a free-for-all?
[11:54 am] mikewd2 -: they mentioned the topics a couple days ago, but didn't pay attention
[11:55 am] joeytsa  : i figured there were, thanks
[11:55 am] joeytsa  : the town hall debate should be good also
[11:55 am] joeytsa  : mike: you watching the game?
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : GS doing ok today, have some bank earnings tomorrow
[12:02 pm] Ed : markets are so slow right now
[12:02 pm] Ed : feels like summer
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : yeah..thats why i am watching baseball on tv, races on the net :)
[12:03 pm] Ed : im looking out the window at squirels
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : loading your pellet gun haha
[12:04 pm] lisas  : Yeah, and they are looking back at you and they want their nuts back
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : or your slingshot
[12:04 pm] Ed : they have so much fun
[12:04 pm] Ed : lol
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : lisa: squirrel's name must be 0bama then
[12:04 pm] Ed : did anyone play CERN today
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : no, im staring at the chart though
[12:05 pm] Ed : pretty chart if ur short
[12:05 pm] lisas  : yes, profitable earlier, just stopped now, may try again at 72
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : yep
[12:06 pm] Ed : needs some accelerated vol. not the sell, pause, sell
[12:07 pm] elisha  : hello lisas
[12:07 pm] lisas  : Hi elisha, how's your trading going today
[12:08 pm] elisha  : I had some small winners but am not live yet
[12:08 pm] elisha  : thx for asking - i can see your trading is doing just fine!
[12:09 pm] Ed : i think i may try bosley hair treatment, get a different color for everyday of week
[12:09 pm] doji  : APPL below 630
[12:09 pm] joeytsa  : :)
[12:10 pm] lisas  : Sim trading is the way to go until you are consistent. Just don't pick up bad habits because it's sim. I found myself doing that, until I had a big loss, then was terrified that I was live and not sim.
[12:10 pm] joeytsa  : and when you go live, still start out small
[12:10 pm] elisha  : that was that martingale thing
[12:10 pm] elisha  : lol joey - i'm going small in sim
[12:11 pm] lisas  : yes, I still remember that horrible fear that maybe I had lost half my account by signing into live trading accidently
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : you got that hot burning feeling in your stomach
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : feet started to sweat
[12:12 pm] elisha  : i do that thinking about lunch
[12:12 pm] lisas  : lol
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : i remember closing out a trade, but hit the button an extra time or 2
[12:12 pm] elisha  : Ed apparantly does that thinking about bosely hair treatments
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : so instead of closing a long i was short 2000 shares by accident
[12:13 pm] elisha  : what happened?
[12:13 pm] lisas  : live joey?
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : yeah live...i just closed it for a small loss
[12:13 pm] elisha  : was that today?
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : as it turned out, had i held,l it would have made money
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : not today...few yrs back
[12:13 pm] Ed : that will definitely wake you up
[12:14 pm] lisas  : Another thing sim trading did for me, is I ALWAYS check for open orders I might have left on, especially in futures
[12:14 pm] lisas  : Have opened sim platform in am and had positions entered overnight
[12:14 pm] joeytsa  : again, the only negative with sim is that you dont get the emotion
[12:15 pm] lisas  : Yes, you have to set goal to meet, goals to follow rules, etc, before you can go live
[12:15 pm] lisas  : Then when you go live, trade small to start
[12:15 pm] joeytsa  : agreed, and be ready because your mental state will be totally different
[12:16 pm] Ed : even if u only trade 10 shares
[12:16 pm] elisha  : I believe you guys
[12:17 pm] elisha  : I have gone live before - before I should have and now have simular issues to what eyes is dealing with -fear
[12:17 pm] joeytsa  : if you lose $5k on a sim trade, you can always hit the reset key and be back to even..not so much live
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : people hate admitting they are wrong, which is why you see trades taken with no stops
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : you get stopped, then you are wrong..people dont like that
[12:19 pm] elisha  : i have a lot to still learn but i am believing i will use stops!
[12:20 pm] joeytsa  : but using stops means you were right in realizing you were wrong on this particular trade
[12:20 pm] elisha  : bonus
[12:20 pm] joeytsa  : same with those who turn daytrades into overnight holds using some excuse like " it has to come back"
[12:20 pm] doji  : ALWAYS know your stop and exit targets before you place your order
[12:21 pm] joeytsa  : NAV spike down
[12:21 pm] joeytsa  : yes doji
[12:21 pm] elisha  : in a situation like a daytrade how can you always figure ithat out when a stock is moving fast?
[12:21 pm] joeytsa  : just like walking into a building..always know where the exits are
[12:22 pm] joeytsa  : elisha: that comes with practice, but a quick look at a chart you can see where price came from for example
[12:22 pm] elisha  : ok
[12:22 pm] joeytsa  : some use price levels, others use ma's, or indicators,pivots etc
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : Ed just rubs his baldspot and dances  :)
[12:23 pm] Ed : lol
[12:23 pm] elisha  : while keeping his finger on the mouse?
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : good point elisha..always know where your mouse/cursor is, esp if you have multiple monitors
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : dont want to accidently click on something
[12:25 pm] joeytsa  : have done that b4 also
[12:25 pm] elisha  : i actually did that once - had the cursor over the sell button by mistake and clicked
[12:25 pm] joeytsa  : i have some charts that overlap...when bringing them to the forefront i actually click on a buy button once
[12:26 pm] elisha  : what happened with that trade?
[12:26 pm] joeytsa  : after the obligatory cursing, i closed it for a small gain
[12:27 pm] elisha  : you're lucky - i had a loss
[12:28 pm] joeytsa  : could have easily been a big loss..point is to do your best to not make the "dumb" mistakes because the market will give you enough on your "good" ideas  :)
[12:28 pm] skydiver  : amen to that joey
[12:28 pm] joeytsa  : its aggrevating when the best setups fail
[12:28 pm] Ed : i agree
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : you get 5 things confirming a trade, and it still fails
[12:29 pm] elisha  : mark douglas " the market is always right"
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : thankfully from playing horses for 40 yrs, i have learned to accept this as part of doing biz
[12:29 pm] skydiver  : I see CRM climbing - just jumped on the system however
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : elisha: just like sky likes to focus on a few stocks, you might want to pick a couple to follow
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : not saying sky wont play others, but he has his eyes always on CRM,JOY,LNKD
[12:31 pm] elisha  : i have a list titled "usual suspects"
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : nice, i call them my flock..i have 2 sets..some more as a market tell
[12:31 pm] elisha  : how many monitors do you guys have?
[12:32 pm] lisas  : elisha, I have a laptop with extra monitor for room, and 4 trading monitors on a separate computer just for trading
[12:32 pm] elisha  : just give me an average
[12:32 pm] joeytsa  : 6 for actual trading, 1 for the room/email/facebook, 4 for other accounts,news
[12:33 pm] elisha  : holy cow
[12:33 pm] skydiver  : joey getting to know me well :)
[12:33 pm] joeytsa  : its smart sky
[12:33 pm] joeytsa  : you get to know the ups and downs
[12:34 pm] elisha  : i guess it takes some time to get used to all that info at once - sort of like being add
[12:34 pm] skydiver  : just learning joey and getting a feel of them -- will keep building more slowly
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : learned that yrs ago...not one of my original flock is in my current ones
[12:35 pm] lisas  : you have sheep?
[12:36 pm] skydiver  : nice one lisa
[12:36 pm] joeytsa  : :)
[12:36 pm] elisha  : just added sky's usuals to my list
[12:36 pm] skydiver  : :)
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : elisha: right now my main flock is  AAPL,AMZN,BIDU,CRM,GOOG,SINA
[12:37 pm] lisas  : racing sheep
[12:37 pm] skydiver  : also watch KORS  LULU   CF  CLF   SINA
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : 2nd flock: KORS,LNKD,NFLX,LULU,JOY,GS...GS I watch for a market tell
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : COST lod
[12:39 pm] elisha  : thanks for the info - can only write so fast
[12:39 pm] elisha  : have to watch myself with
[12:39 pm] elisha  : GS to avoid a revenge trade
[12:40 pm] joeytsa  : i rarely if ever trade GS
[12:40 pm] elisha  : ok, i';; bite.  why not?
[12:41 pm] victor51  : I am here but just on sideline. Any updates on Lightening webinar? still on this Sat.
[12:41 pm] elisha  : i';; = i'll
[12:41 pm] joeytsa  : for me it doesnt normally move enough or quick enough..but i watch it b4 each report
[12:41 pm] elisha  : ok
[12:42 pm] joeytsa  : between GS and the ES, you can sometimes get a heads up on how the report will be received
[12:45 pm] murano  : COST
[12:46 pm] doji  : Dang tooo late on the day
[12:55 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch,Ed, everybody...have a great day
[12:55 pm] lisas  : Is there a Lightning webinar this weekend?
[12:56 pm] Ed : no, not yet
[12:56 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:56 pm] elisha  : bye joey
[12:56 pm] lisas  : bye Joey
[12:57 pm] lisas  : taking off also, bye all
[12:57 pm] elisha  : bye lisas
[12:57 pm] Ed : c ya lisa
[12:57 pm] joeytsa  : 2 races b4 we go to post
[12:57 pm] elisha  : thanks for all the input today
[12:57 pm] elisha  : everyone
[12:58 pm] joeytsa  : if anyone wants to watch the race,  we are the #7 in race 8...
[12:58 pm] joeytsa  : http://www.keeneland.com/racing/racing-live-c overage
[12:58 pm] victor51  : Bye Ed and all friendly traders
[12:58 pm] skydiver  : will try to watch joey -- thnx -- see you guys -- I'm gone all next week - -should be on in the morning for a bit
[12:58 pm] skydiver  : kb
[12:59 pm] joeytsa  : enjoy your trip
[12:59 pm] skydiver  : :)
[12:59 pm] qwert  : thx joey will watch
[12:59 pm] elisha  : GN Mitch, Ed and everybody
[12:59 pm] joeytsa  : horse name is Summer of Fun
[12:59 pm] joeytsa  : jockey colors  green/gold/white
[01:01 pm] qwert  : goodnight everybody

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