Chat Highlights From 10/11/2011

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[06:19 am] Brent : Good morning
[06:19 am] Kris : Good Morning Traders
[06:19 am] Kris : NRGY, UTHR, BMC, JOYG, RBCN, CA and TZOO as possible short trades
[06:19 am] Kris : Today I'm watching KMB, ALXN, PGN, ARO and SFSF for possible long trades
[06:28 am] Kris : 2 Minutes, Time To Rock! Let's make some money!
[06:31 am] Kris : ROST short half
[06:31 am] Kris : SNDK short half
[06:31 am] Kris : TJX short half
[06:33 am] Kris : short second half SNDK
[06:33 am] Mitch K: looking for short in RIG
[06:34 am] Kris : RVBD short half
[06:35 am] Kris : will watch AVGO for a bounce to short into
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching for short in YOKU
[06:36 am] Kris : she's acting a little wild on the open today
[06:36 am] Kris : SPY fighting off lod support
[06:36 am] Mitch K: dont short yet those two shown, wait for peak, should be soon
[06:37 am] Kris : NFLX coming into support, looking weak again today
[06:37 am] Kris : watching SINA for a short
[06:38 am] Kris : MTL short half
[06:39 am] Brent : watching WDC for a short
[06:39 am] Kris : JOYG short half
[06:39 am] Kris : short second half TJX
[06:42 am] Kris : here comes some sellers
[06:43 am] Kris : see if we can make a new lod in the SPY
[06:46 am] Mitch K: looking for short in MOS
[06:49 am] Kris : I'll short NFLX below lod[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching for short scalp in APKT, all these will be quick and small,
[06:50 am] Kris : watching TZA for a long soon
[06:55 am] Kris : TTM short half
[07:00 am] Kris : short NFLX
[07:04 am] Brent : watching FSLR for a bounce
[07:04 am] Mitch K: a lot of shorts turning over
[07:06 am] Kris : out half NFLX short
[07:07 am] Kris : SPY bounce looking a little weak so far
[07:10 am] Mitch K: FSLR near 4 year low
[07:10 am] Mitch K: if anyone shorted ANR, cover here
[07:11 am] Kris : NFLX still looking weak
[07:11 am] Mitch K: monitoring FMCN for short
[07:14 am] Kris : watching TZA for another long
[07:18 am] Brent : consider reducing FSLR
[07:20 am] Brent : FSLR coming up on VWAP resistance at 57
[07:20 am] Kris : TZA long half
[07:31 am] Kris : NFLX coming down to test lod support
[07:32 am] Mitch K: watching GMCR for short, although shorts have not been working yet
[07:33 am] Kris : NFLX new lod[07:34 am] Kris : hod = high of day
[07:34 am] Kris : lod = low of day
[07:37 am] Mitch K: watch ANR for 2nd short again
[07:41 am] Mitch K: looking at POT for short that may last for a while today
[07:48 am] Kris : NFLX new lows
[07:55 am] Kris : SPY broke trendline support coming down from 120 resistance
[08:02 am] Mitch K: looking at MS for short
[08:03 am] Mitch K: watching JWN for long bounce at some point,
[08:04 am] Mitch K: higher risk short because of price but LEAP should be profitable short, late to see
[08:08 am] Kris : 41.60 resistance TZA
[08:16 am] Mitch K: shorts finally working, stronger morning than i expected. RIO is another short
[08:17 am] Mitch K: Also consider reducing LEAP short
[08:17 am] Mitch K: consider covering half of MS short
[08:17 am] Mitch K: RIG finally broke down
[08:18 am] Mitch K: GMCR, consider covering here, also worth smaller LONG in GMCR
[08:18 am] Mitch K: this is typical, they all break down same time,
[08:19 am] Mitch K: I'm sure you guys knew to look for short on top of really strong bounces like FSLR? i don't have to tell you that right?
[08:21 am] Mitch K: i see POT as a slow drift, what was the other one that i said slow drift down
[08:28 am] Brent : SPY testing trendline resistance
[08:32 am] Mitch K: looking for another short in RIO near $51
[08:35 am] Mitch K: probably a microtrade short here on FSLR
[08:37 am] Kris : YNDX ALERT
[08:37 am] Mitch K: monitoring BHI for 2nd short later
[08:40 am] Mitch K: you might want to capture that little long scalp on GMCR soon, 70 cents so far
[08:50 am] Mitch K: watching RIO for 2nd helping short fairly soon
[09:20 am] Kris : adding a small piece to my TZA long swing trade here
[09:55 am] Mitch K: the pattern continues to be the same most days that the big spikes up get sold off throughout the day although today is a little hotter
[09:55 am] Mitch K: YNDX giving a long entry
[10:11 am] Brent : SPY trying to break this upper trendline resistance
[10:20 am] Mitch K: consider covering BHI 2nd short
[10:20 am] Mitch K: YNDX decent short, late but more downside
[10:21 am] Mitch K: you guys get the BHI 2nd helping short?
[10:30 am] Kris : break time. I'll be back in 30.
[10:32 am] Mitch K: then look for around 23.70 area to cover
[10:32 am] Mitch K: YNDX still good to short on any spike, like this little one here that went to 24.30
[10:34 am] Mitch K: for anyone newer to day trading, 80% of your stock trade ideas come in the first 90 minutes of each trading day.
[10:34 am] Mitch K: the quality and potential profit go down throughout the day
[10:36 am] Mitch K: the hold time for these longer term shorts are getting longer and longer. As the day goes on, the longer hold time you will have, especially compared to the hold times in the first 90 minutes which are faster
[10:37 am] Mitch K: microtrade in GMCR possible on the short side
[10:39 am] Mitch K: also when you see stocks that had high volatility, like FSLR for example, had a big bounce, then a nice short. then you keep that chart up all day and monitor it for other entries, like the short it just had last 40 min or so
[10:41 am] Mitch K: it is easy to get spoiled by the first hour where things happen quickly and you have to adjust to a different style and approach later in the day. Requires more patience, discipline and your profit potential on scalps later in the day might only be 1/2 to 1% profit potential..... not the monster profits
[10:42 am] Mitch K: like this GMCR short here, maybe 1 point or 1% here possible, probably end up with 0.6 or 0.7% profit on this short. maybe takes another 15-20 min
[10:47 am] Mitch K: watching IDCC
[10:48 am] Mitch K: worth small short, don't get heavy
[10:49 am] Mitch K: ok grab some of that profit down below 49. use limit orders, this is why you need fast platforms
[10:50 am] Mitch K: you have to use limit orders on IDCC
[10:52 am] Mitch K: if there is a 2pm press conference , probably better to cover
[10:52 am] Mitch K: usually rumors don't have scheduled press conferences
[10:53 am] Mitch K: getting spike in buying and volume in stocks and oil last 2 min
[11:21 am] Mitch K: getting spike in buying and volume in stocks and oil last 2 min VRTX does look interesting for long; let it drop a lot more
[11:33 am] Mitch K: this chart pattern with VRTX looks sustainable down, looking at trading action
[11:48 am] Mitch K: new low with VRTX usually good to short
[12:01 pm] Kris : watching TZA
[12:02 pm] Kris : yes Mike but I've also scalped it a couple times today
[12:02 pm] Mitch K: you see that big down candle on VRTX/
[12:04 pm] Kris : and get ready to go long, gonna have money on both sides of this move.
[12:04 pm] Kris : starting to watch VRTX for a long soon. If you're short start looking to take profits and tighten up your stop.
[12:05 pm] Kris : I'm long half VRTX
[12:05 pm] Kris : left my second order in the dust
[12:06 pm] Kris : nice late day gift
[12:07 pm] Kris : looking for 38.47
[12:08 pm] Kris : out half VRTX long
[12:10 pm] Kris : out another 1/4 VRTX
[12:11 pm] Kris : increasing price move, increasing volume, those are the juiciest setups for the 3MF
[12:11 pm] Kris : stop last 1/4 under 37.96, looking for 38.98 target
[12:14 pm] Mitch K: the beautiful V pattern, text book
[12:15 pm] Mitch K: no sell signal yet on VRTX
[12:18 pm] Kris : out all VRTX long
[12:19 pm] Mitch K: look at the stochastics on a 2 min, hasn't even flattened yet
[12:19 pm] Mitch K: ok, let me put it this way on oscillators. they can go flat at the top of the channel for a long time and the stock is continuing to go up. If you are shorting a stock, you would be losing money all that time, in the case of VRTX you would be losing for the last 8 minutes on a short if you use that signal
[12:22 pm] Kris : 3min stochastics reaching overbought level.
[12:22 pm] Kris : previous low, 39.00 whole dollar resistance, VWAP just over 39.00 shark.
[12:22 pm] Mitch K: just to repeat for some of you, the all time favorite long setup is this VRTX and it works on day trades or swings.
[12:23 pm] Kris : I still prefer 3
[12:23 pm] Mitch K: increasing volume, accelerating drop in price
[12:23 pm] Mitch K: yes i have gravitated to 2 min charts from 3. i use 1 and 2 min charts on esignal[12:24 pm] Kris : more consistent and less head fakes.
[12:24 pm] Mitch K: look how the down candles [red] got bigger and bigger at the same time as the volume bars got bigger and bigger at an exponentially increasing rate
[12:25 pm] Kris : increasing fear and flushing out the rest of the weak longs
[12:26 pm] Kris : then you get short covering and buyers start to come back in and you'll see the volume start to diminish after the turn.
[12:26 pm] Mitch K: it is like a sneeze that gets to a point where you can't stop it. Mitch Kings version of "capitulation" where the climax of sellers culminated in that one moment and the sellers are exhausted and the balance of trading volume is now buying
[12:26 pm] Mitch K: mike, you see why you don't use an oscillator as a sell signal just because it goes flat? you would learn this the hard way if you were short.
[12:27 pm] Mitch K: look at stochastics on a 1 min chart, still going sideways, flat
[12:27 pm] Mitch K: this is not a sell signal on a 1 min chart
[12:28 pm] Kris : mike, a couple things you can do
[12:28 pm] Kris : some platforms have a timer add-on where you can see how much time is left in the 3min candle so you can get a head start before it closes.
[12:29 pm] Kris : leg into it with at least 2 orders, maybe even 3
[12:29 pm] Kris : see if it holds the low with your small position and then build into it.
[12:29 pm] Kris : the other thing is that if it starts to take off you can start with a small piece and then add on a pullback
[12:29 pm] Kris : you got it
[12:29 pm] Mitch K: candle
[12:29 pm] Mitch K: that blue arrow was your sell signal right mike? that red candle
[12:30 pm] Kris : should have trailed my last piece. I am guilty of looking at the money and the clock.
[12:30 pm] Mitch K: if you use an oscillator as a sell signal you would be 3% underwater on your short and erase your long position profit on it
[12:32 pm] Mitch K: I've moved away from using the 3 min chart
[12:32 pm] Mitch K: the 3 min stochastics just started turning over only 1 bar ago on VRTX
[12:32 pm] Mitch K: you will make a lot more money waiting for oscillators to reverse as well as using moving averages at the same time to get signals.
[12:33 pm] Mitch K: as a primary chart for signals and using a 2 min
[12:39 pm] Kris : SPY really built some overhead resistance today at that 120.00 area.
[12:40 pm] Kris : and then previous S/R levels if available.
[12:40 pm] Kris : I use 1min darvas box lows shark
[12:41 pm] Kris : so it's not really based on a set % or price
[12:41 pm] Kris : yes guitarzan, a break over 120.00 could give a nice move to the long side.
[12:42 pm] Kris : we're getting some fun volatility here again late in the day.
[12:43 pm] Kris : TNA could run here if we get a breakout in the SPY
[12:43 pm] Kris : yes sonorant, I have a half sized swing trade I'm taking into tomorrow on TZA
[12:45 pm] Kris : what's your entry mike?
[12:46 pm] Kris : or day trading size?
[12:46 pm] Kris : swing size?
[12:48 pm] Kris : I would stop over 51.25 mike and see if it can sell down below 51.00 before the close.
[12:48 pm] Kris : then reduce it if you get ahead and it would be up to your pain tolerance how much and if you wanted to take part of it home.
[12:51 pm] Kris : no love there
[12:51 pm] Kris : VOLC had a bad day
[12:51 pm] Kris : what do you mean pandozzi?
[12:52 pm] Kris : remember guys, I'm only half sized on my swing trade in TZA
[12:52 pm] Kris : still have 2 bullets left
[01:01 pm] Brent : have a great night, see you tomorrow
[01:01 pm] Kris : great job today everyone. see you all in the morning.
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: later guys and gals
[06:14 am] joeytsa : only 1 mid-level report today: IBD/TIPP economic optimism @ 10am PST
[06:15 am] candelas : gm Mitch,Brent,Kris,Mike,Apple.Joey,Jr,Lisa,Qwer t,Mhaus,Mike, other Traders
[06:19 am] joeytsa : gap up: FAZ,AAPL,TZA..not seeing much
[06:20 am] joeytsa : gap down: ASML,SINA,JOYG,NFLX,BHP,GLD,WYNN
[06:22 am] joeytsa : GS still looks like a dog to me, but had a nice 3 min fade set up going into the close
[06:23 am] mikewd2 -: Citi saying GS to have 3rd qtr loss
[06:24 am] joeytsa : cool site for those who play options, 888options.com, they show deltas of each option for those interested
[06:26 am] apple : if you do play options, putting a little money in an optionxpress account is good, because they show all the greeks[06:26 am] joeytsa : gigascanner is another free thing, trying to find something useful on it
[06:27 am] joeytsa : opx has a platform called Xtend, i have it but haven't dug into it much
[06:27 am] joeytsa : yeah, but you have to kind of search there...at 888 everything is listed quick
[06:32 am] joeytsa : APPL hod[06:32 am] joeytsa : quick $1 on NFLX, look for more later
[06:37 am] mhaus : SINA
[06:38 am] joeytsa : watching BEN
[06:40 am] joeytsa : no shark, i wish
[06:40 am] shark : pick up any weekly AAPL calls joeytsa?
[06:40 am] shark : really got some rocket fuel this week
[06:41 am] apple : good plan
[06:41 am] joeytsa : been playing holds really safe lately...
[06:41 am] joeytsa : wanting to see how a few stocks come out with earnings this week
[06:41 am] shark : you're in a holding pattern, then? joeytsa[06:42 am] joeytsa : AA tonight might set the tone, we will see
[06:42 am] joeytsa : VRUS running
[06:42 am] joeytsa : yeah on swings/holds
[06:42 am] mhaus : DANG
[06:42 am] mhaus : VRUS
[06:43 am] anthonyb : AKAM
[06:43 am] mikewd2 -: SINA still looking strong
[06:43 am] shark : SPY lod[06:44 am] mhaus : MOS rumor
[06:45 am] joeytsa : FSLR lod[06:48 am] shark : SPY hod[06:49 am] joeytsa : watching GS to set up another short on market weakness
[06:50 am] joeytsa : in NFLX s 110
[06:50 am] junior : out WDC short even
[06:51 am] joeytsa : stop hit on NFLX 50cents..didn't trail quick enough
[06:52 am] joeytsa : AGU trying to close gap
[06:52 am] shark : AAPL strong -decent volume
[06:53 am] joeytsa : SINA might be cracking
[06:53 am] mikewd2 -: TZA l 41l75
[06:57 am] joeytsa : consumer optimism report in 3 minutes, see if it does anything to the markets
[06:57 am] shark : NFLX sitting around and testing lod[06:58 am] joeytsa : BEN gave a nice little rebound, looks like it wants to go lower
[06:59 am] shark : JVA up 18%
[07:01 am] frmendez67 : I shorted SNDK + RIG doing fine
[07:01 am] shark : shooting fish in a barrel: NFLX
[07:04 am] joeytsa : WYNN steadily lower..took a nice loss on my 1st trade with them
[07:04 am] mikewd2 -: been looking to short WYNN joey
[07:05 am] joeytsa : AGU with the gap close and more
[07:05 am] joeytsa : mike: i meant to do a reverse trade..not sure where my mind was
[07:05 am] mikewd2 -: fall NFLX fall
[07:07 am] mikewd2 -: covered half 105
[07:07 am] shark : CNBC talking down NFLX
[07:07 am] shark : get to $50 baby: NFLX
[07:08 am] Brent : I'll be watching for a long at $50 shark
[07:08 am] mikewd2 -: i hope so
[07:08 am] shark : hahah :)
[07:08 am] shark : it's going to $50 mikewd2. What r u thinking?
[07:08 am] shark : maybe not today...
[07:09 am] candelas : I agree Brent
[07:09 am] joeytsa : IB consumer optimism came in at 40.3 with 34.2 forecast
[07:10 am] shark : we should buy something now, joeytsa or?
[07:11 am] joeytsa : SINA hod[07:11 am] observer : SLW hod[07:13 am] candelas : AAPL hod[07:14 am] anthonyb : sometimes, one gets lucky. Today, I got lucky. Went to cover 50sh NFLX for +1.07. Ended up selling 50 more by mistake.
[07:14 am] joeytsa : close eye on FSLR
[07:15 am] joeytsa : nice anthony[07:16 am] anthonyb : lol could have been worse. Instead I put another 50 bucks in my pocket. Covered all but 50 shares now. Free trade on
[07:16 am] candelas : ALXN hod[07:16 am] joeytsa : FOSL hod[07:17 am] candelas : FSLR bouncing
[07:17 am] junior : ALXN
[07:18 am] mikewd2 -: FSLR l 56.00
[07:19 am] duckfan : thx for FSLR Brent
[07:19 am] joeytsa : shark: are you holding AAPL with more than the weekly's?
[07:19 am] scalpman : Nice one brent on FSLR
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: nice on Brent, thanks
[07:20 am] truck : nice Brent !
[07:21 am] joeytsa : nice trade on FSLR..thanks[07:22 am] mikewd2 -: stopped TZA
[07:23 am] joeytsa : watching NFLX again for another short setup
[07:24 am] candelas : SPY at resis[07:24 am] joeytsa : GS at hod, keep climbing..set up more
[07:26 am] candelas : AAPL hod[07:26 am] joeytsa : APPL shooting for 400 again
[07:26 am] joeytsa : has some resistance above 400
[07:26 am] mhaus : F
[07:27 am] joeytsa : CLF steady climb since the gap down
[07:27 am] truck : out my last piece,, FSLR....Owe you lunch, Brent !
[07:28 am] mhaus : GNW
[07:28 am] rusty : GNW radar
[07:29 am] rusty : rumor that large hedge fund taking stake
[07:33 am] amersaeed : what is LOD support
[07:33 am] candelas : NFLX lod[07:33 am] joeytsa : trailing NFLX lower
[07:34 am] joeytsa : also loy :)
[07:34 am] joeytsa : low of year
[07:34 am] shark : DIE, nflx, DIE
[07:35 am] joeytsa : GS is running
[07:36 am] joeytsa : stopped on NFLX +2
[07:37 am] Brent : nice trade Joey
[07:37 am] candelas : FMCN turning over
[07:37 am] joeytsa : thanks Brent
[07:37 am] joeytsa : that trade was a gimme, indi's had it all set up
[07:37 am] shark : awesome JoeyTSA[07:39 am] candelas : fslr has sizzler written all over it
[07:39 am] joeytsa : FSLR showing more life
[07:40 am] neuronx : SPY at trendline resistance
[07:41 am] joeytsa : thanks Mitch..i actually think ANR will be a nice long hold when all is said and done
[07:43 am] joeytsa : GMCR cracking
[07:44 am] joeytsa : market showing some strength
[07:44 am] shark : SPY new hod[07:45 am] shark : AAPL over $400
[07:47 am] joeytsa : $403, $422 next resistance areas for AAPL....
[07:47 am] shark : NFLX testing lod[07:48 am] joeytsa : the july $403 was on a higher macd than the $422 level..gonna see how that plays out
[07:49 am] candelas : still holding 1/4 of NFLX
[07:49 am] candelas : yes from am
[07:49 am] shark : short right, candles?
[07:51 am] joeytsa : GS having a nice day, but coming into that 20ma resistance
[07:52 am] candelas : out all nflx[07:53 am] shark : nice charting joeytsa: GS
[07:56 am] frmendez67 : i'm short RIG/SNDK
[07:56 am] frmendez67 : yeah I saw the SPY
[07:57 am] scalpman : Nice drop on TNA S
[07:57 am] shark : It seems like wall street always has to have a favorite long: AAPL/AMZN/LULU/CMG... AND a favorite short: NFLX/the banks
[07:59 am] mhaus : BSFT
[08:04 am] mikewd2 -: DANG having a good day
[08:09 am] anthonyb : have a great day everyone. see you tomorrow
[08:11 am] anthonyb : btw, pretty much break even today. winners canceled out loser almost to the buck.
[08:11 am] apple : tomorrow is a new day....
[08:12 am] anthonyb : yes it is. It's business. I traded well
[08:12 am] Brent : have a good one anthonyb[08:12 am] mhaus : FTNT
[08:16 am] frmendez67 : SPY broke past its vwap[08:16 am] shark : GMCR - sweet, Mitch, looking good
[08:17 am] derns : MOS has been strong...is there a short potential now?
[08:20 am] skydiver : Right Mitch
[08:21 am] shark : love it when you remind us too, Mitch. THANK YOU!
[08:22 am] jsn13 : JWN?
[08:23 am] jsn13 : Oh no that's for a bounce at some point...
[08:24 am] junior : PANL
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: getting nice down trends on the markets
[08:24 am] shark : JVA up 20% today and around 80% in a week.
[08:27 am] pandozzi : nice ms short mitch made .25
[08:54 am] finn : Mitch resend, accidentally erased
[08:57 am] mikewd2 -: Mitch on RIO short, is 51.21 ok for stop?
[08:58 am] soccerfn : LVS s soon?
[09:00 am] Brent : LVS looks too strong to me soccerfn[09:00 am] soccerfn : thanks
[09:02 am] dano : When do you guys scale in 2nd half exactly? Is this before the 1-1.5% 1st target. And your second stop adjustment is around the same time as 2nd half entry? Looking to clear my thinking on this for my procedures I'm writing down.
[09:02 am] joeytsa : SPY holding between 50/200 ma on the daily
[09:08 am] Brent : it depends on the strategy dano. Generally I add on a pull back that doesn't make a lower low (for a long) or higher high (for a short)
[09:11 am] dano : 10-4. Finding the kinks as I get more detailed in my sim trds. Looking to refine my checklist...
[09:13 am] dano : I guess you could say I'm looking to establish a few general rules of thumb.
[09:14 am] candelas : rules are good and even better when we obey them
[09:15 am] apple : well said, candelas
[09:15 am] mikewd2 -: good point Ed
[09:16 am] dano : I'm one who needs to experience the bad as well as the good. I've traded by seat of the pants as well as by some rules. Awesome learning on both. Now time to get surgical hence my procedure list I'm working on.
[09:17 am] guitarzan1 -: come on - mini head and shoulders reversal Rio :)
[09:17 am] joeytsa : surgical much better than my caveman club :)
[09:20 am] dano : psych and emotion experience gained has been huge...only had by real trading, especially "caveman" style. Now we get down to what's correct and methodical
[09:20 am] guitarzan1 -: i know it doesn't have the volume (yet) - but it is fun when you start noticing patterns you've learned.
[09:21 am] frmendez67 : Kris thanks for TZA long idea
[09:21 am] joeytsa : with ya dano[09:24 am] joeytsa : i'm leery of long swings right now, but RGR has intrigued me since the late feb break above 16, then further breaks above 20,24..earnings on 11/2
[09:27 am] dano : good day traders, off to the grind.
[09:28 am] Brent : have a good night dano[09:28 am] dano : ...and thnx again all for the lessons learned
[09:37 am] joeytsa : i knew with some patience GS would go into dog-mode
[09:37 am] Mitch K: anyone get that LEAP short?
[09:38 am] lisas : no, I am in rio, small size, with profit at this point
[09:42 am] derns : Kris...what percentage of your whole trade do you have now in TZA? You are in a swing trade, correct?
[09:42 am] shark : TZA looking better now...
[09:43 am] candelas : out all FMCN
[09:43 am] joeytsa : closing golden slacks ( GS ) for $1.30
[09:44 am] Brent : nice Joey
[09:44 am] dmitry : I did not get LEAP short. :-{
[09:44 am] joeytsa : got a couple good ones today....i nice sized loss in there as well
[09:45 am] frmendez67 : are you doing it on the SPY?
[09:45 am] frmendez67 : I'm just curios how do you do a LEAP short
[09:45 am] frmendez67 : oh I see
[09:45 am] frmendez67 : thanks!
[09:45 am] joeytsa : i think they mean LEAP the company
[09:45 am] joeytsa : not LEAP the option
[09:45 am] lightning : frmendez67, LEAP is stock symbol as well.
[10:22 am] frmendez67 : Brent I saw that on SPY thx
[10:22 am] mbear : No BHI, but did get the quick move up on YNDX and also the short - still in half position
[10:26 am] mhaus : FSLR
[10:31 am] mikewd2 -: TZA at lower trend line
[10:33 am] mikewd2 -: TZA L 41.11
[10:33 am] neuronx : JVA spike
[10:34 am] junior : TPX
[10:36 am] candelas : the FMCN was a looong time
[10:36 am] frmendez67 : Thanks Mitch for Clarifying
[10:37 am] candelas : nice call thought Mitch
[10:41 am] pandozzi : got out jva made .42 ya baby thx
[10:47 am] junior : IDCC alert
[10:47 am] rusty : 2PM press conference
[10:47 am] rusty : http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-iran-tied-te rror-plot-washington-dc-disrupted/story?id=14 711933
[10:49 am] rusty : INTC + IDCC rumors
[10:52 am] junior : watching CSTR
[10:54 am] derns : What is the 2 pm press conference on?
[10:54 am] duckfan : Rusty, do you use flyonthewall for your news feed?
[10:55 am] sonorant : mhaus, are you out there? or Kris or Brent? I spent part of this morning getting a real Ninja License so I could trade live (swings only -- I have no illusions about my current day trading skills.)
[10:56 am] Brent : did you click the down arrow next to where is says "sim 101" on your dom?
[10:56 am] Brent : I'm here
[10:56 am] sonorant : Anyways, it says I am hooked up to IB, and I have unclicked Global Simulation, but I am still just buying in Sim.
[10:56 am] sonorant : was trying to buy 10 shares (big spender here) of TZA
[10:57 am] Mitch K: sonor, there is no sense in buying 10 shares of TZA. you won't make any money
[10:58 am] mikewd2 -: IDCC have tons of patents.
[10:58 am] mikewd2 -: is the IDCC news on Intel takeover again?
[10:58 am] sonorant : Brent, there is no down arrow next to "sim 101" on my dom[10:58 am] sonorant : Mitch, I am just trying to see if I can buy anything for real -- it could be one share at the moment
[10:59 am] Brent : then you aren't connected properly. Did you set up the API?
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: push IDCC in 50.85 Long
[11:00 am] sonorant : Yes, I think so -- last night when I followed the instructions for setting up the IB software
[11:02 am] eyes-inthenow : Uncheck Global
[11:03 am] eyes-inthenow : simulation mode
[11:04 am] Brent : did you have IB's TWS up and logged in before you connected to ninja?
[11:04 am] sonorant : Brent, no, I don't think so -- do I need to do that first?
[11:04 am] sonorant : I've unchecked that already -- still doesn't worked
[11:05 am] Brent : yes, you have to login to TWS, then open Ninja and connect to Interactive brokers. You should then have a message on your TWS that says "accept incoming signal?" you click yes
[11:05 am] sonorant : Thanks, will try now
[11:06 am] mikewd2 -: out IDCC 51.90
[11:10 am] neuronx : OSG setting for 3 min f
[11:13 am] victor51 : Lucky i didn't find IDCC short. Lucked out
[11:14 am] amersaeed : anyone think IDCC is a short here
[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: all depends what the rumor was and if true
[11:15 am] mikewd2 -: According to contacts, DealReporter said multiple potential companies are interested in InterDigital and may form a consortium to bid for the company.
[11:15 am] mikewd2 -: this news has been around for a while
[11:20 am] monster : vrtx[11:22 am] skydiver : out of IDCC at 51.15
[11:26 am] joeytsa : VMW spike down
[11:37 am] joeytsa : i need to get over not being excited on a 15cent profit..it's like Mitch was talking about earlier
[11:40 am] joeytsa : APD lod[11:43 am] skydiver : Wifi here at the hospital not very reliable - had to get out of IDCC with only .15 profit
[11:48 am] candelas : all over it, thx Mitch
[11:48 am] joeytsa : APA lod[11:50 am] shark : very DELICIOUS to short
[11:52 am] candelas : FSLR lod[11:54 am] joeytsa : hoping to see my good friend GS break below 96.15
[11:54 am] mikewd2 -: RIO finally moving down again
[11:55 am] mikewd2 -: been a very slow short
[11:56 am] candelas : weaker VRTX
[11:56 am] candelas : weakest
[12:00 pm] candelas : yes Mitch
[12:00 pm] Mitch K: you still short VRTX candles?
[12:00 pm] shark : AAPL new hod[12:01 pm] candelas : covered 1/2 @ 38.34
[12:01 pm] candelas : thank ya sir
[12:01 pm] Mitch K: i don't know why, just thought i would say that, lol[12:01 pm] Mitch K: you're a good boy candles
[12:02 pm] candelas : yes
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : great call on VRTX
[12:02 pm] mikewd2 -: Kris, you holding TZA for a swing?
[12:02 pm] mikewd2 -: ok, me too
[12:03 pm] mikewd2 -: potential?
[12:03 pm] mikewd2 -: so is VRTX now a 3min fade play?
[12:03 pm] shark : huge volume surge...VRTX
[12:04 pm] candelas : got stop tighten on last 1/4 VRTX
[12:04 pm] candelas : out another 1/4 VRTX 37.51
[12:04 pm] lisas : stopped last quarter
[12:04 pm] lisas : wow, vrtx[12:05 pm] mikewd2 -: i missed it
[12:06 pm] candelas : nice VRTXyyyyy[12:07 pm] shark : you blinked mikewd2
[12:08 pm] mikewd2 -: got in late 37.90
[12:08 pm] mikewd2 -: waited for 2nd positive candle
[12:08 pm] shark : AAPL new hod[12:09 pm] guitarzan1 -: nice call on vrtx :)
[12:09 pm] lisas : yes, vrtx very very nice
[12:09 pm] mikewd2 -: out half 38.40
[12:09 pm] mikewd2 -: stop moved b/e[12:10 pm] joeytsa : beautiful way to end my trading...great call both ways
[12:10 pm] mikewd2 -: luv the 3min fade
[12:12 pm] monster : where did you pick up Vrtx, Kris.
[12:13 pm] mikewd2 -: 1/4 at 38.7
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : Mitch King's Chart Pattern HofF[12:15 pm] joeytsa : getting to the point to just sit and wait for those
[12:15 pm] mikewd2 -: my %r turned flat
[12:15 pm] mikewd2 -: out 38.90
[12:16 pm] dmitry : ITT
[12:16 pm] mikewd2 -: and over
[12:16 pm] Mitch K: that isn't a sell signal mikewd2
[12:17 pm] mikewd2 -: it usually given me an early indicator
[12:17 pm] mikewd2 -: or at least i have been using it
[12:17 pm] Mitch K: when you use oscillators, they have to turn down to confirm a sell signal, like stochastics[12:18 pm] joeytsa : ok traders..great day again, great calls...good luck with the rest of your trading...see you in the morning
[12:20 pm] mikewd2 -: and %r still pointing up
[12:20 pm] mikewd2 -: jumped the gun
[12:20 pm] mikewd2 -: on last 1/4
[12:20 pm] mikewd2 -: right, i'm on 3min charts
[12:20 pm] monster : mitch, you like 2s better than 3s
[12:21 pm] mikewd2 -: etrade pro doesn't over 2 so i have to go with 3
[12:21 pm] mikewd2 -: offer
[12:21 pm] mikewd2 -: should have stayed with my trailing stop
[12:22 pm] shark : what was your sell signal Kris: VRTX
[12:23 pm] monster : can you explain over voice?
[12:23 pm] shark : Ok, I see. Thx, Kris! :)
[12:24 pm] shark : unsustainable, Mitch
[12:26 pm] candelas : the last ones wanted out at any price
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: so i was faked out
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah, on the 3min it went flat and then next 3min started down but wasn't a complete 3min.
[12:28 pm] monster : if stock below 80 then sell signal?
[12:28 pm] monster : stochastic
[12:29 pm] mikewd2 -: i usually bounce between 1 and the 3
[12:29 pm] mikewd2 -: ok thanks Kris, i understand
[12:30 pm] candelas : yes
[12:30 pm] mikewd2 -: but will refine that
[12:30 pm] mikewd2 -: i usually use the 3min stochastics but on the last 1/4 i use the %r
[12:35 pm] candelas : don't look at the chart Kris
[12:35 pm] rusty : VRTX radar
[12:35 pm] storage : thanks Mitch and Kris, this was burned into my mind!
[12:38 pm] shark : Kris, how would you have set your trailing stop at possibly?
[12:40 pm] derns : Kris...are you still holding TZA for a swing?
[12:40 pm] mikewd2 -: TZA lod[12:40 pm] rusty : market volume very low second day in a row
[12:41 pm] guitarzan1 -: How would you read that, Kris? Is that 120 resistance an indicator that when it breaks through, it could really run?
[12:41 pm] shark : thx, Kris :)
[12:41 pm] sonorant : After many trials and hoops to jump through I know have live trading capability. Thoughts on taking home a piece of TZA?
[12:42 pm] sonorant : And that was a great discussion of VRTX. Missed the trade as I was on the phone with support, but got the discusscion afterwards!
[12:43 pm] mikewd2 -: sonorant, i'm swinging TZA
[12:43 pm] mikewd2 -: yes
[12:43 pm] mikewd2 -: yes, Kris!
[12:43 pm] shark : you using any indicators on that mikewd2?
[12:43 pm] sonorant : a small amount mike?
[12:44 pm] monster : are you still swing TZA?
[12:44 pm] monster : never mind. saw the post
[12:44 pm] sonorant : yes, 120 is magic, isn't it?
[12:45 pm] mikewd2 -: any thoughts on holding RIO? I was short but haven't covered yet
[12:45 pm] sonorant : candles, what are your thoughts on TZA? I am tempted to wait.
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: 500
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: 51.00
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: hit my target
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: nor my stop
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: was a day, but didn't
[12:47 pm] mikewd2 -: so day trading size
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: ok, that is my stop 51.26
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: so what was your thoughts Kris?
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: sorry 51.21
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: thanks Kris
[12:49 pm] rusty : BWS running up
[12:50 pm] rusty : Brown Shoe Company - nevermind[12:51 pm] pandozzi : what's a nice price on tza here at the close?
[12:51 pm] rusty : VOLC running down
[12:52 pm] frmendez67 : Kris, thanks I'm following your lead on TZA swing. Frank
[12:52 pm] pandozzi : thx
[12:52 pm] sonorant : $40 plus change is a good price on TZA -- provided we don't break 120 tomorrow and run to the skies.
[12:54 pm] Kris : why was yesterday low sonorant?
[12:54 pm] mikewd2 -: holiday
[12:54 pm] sonorant : any thoughts from those of you who have been around a while why today was a low volume day? I understand why yesterday was low.
[12:54 pm] sonorant : Columbus Day -- holiday, and bond market closed. people took off
[12:56 pm] pandozzi : first day in the trading room made 3,500 thx guys
[12:56 pm] pandozzi : lol[12:56 pm] rusty : congrats
[12:56 pm] rusty : send 1/2 - ty pandozzi[12:56 pm] shark : AWESOME pandozzi! :)
[12:56 pm] sonorant : It is almost as if those in the know are standing back, waiting to see if the sheep will step in and drive the prices up -- so that they can unload and short...
[12:56 pm] sonorant : wow -- I'm impressed. Either you know what you are doing, or beginner's luck! Congrats.
[12:57 pm] amersaeed : today was my first day as well, but I just watched..
[12:57 pm] candelas : welcome pandozzi and amersaeed[12:57 pm] Kris : good job mike
[12:57 pm] Kris : lunch on pandozzi!
[12:57 pm] Kris : welcome to the room pandozzi and amersaeed[12:57 pm] mikewd2 -: covered RIO don't need the risk
[12:57 pm] shark : welcome amersaeed[12:57 pm] shark : yeah. we have members in almost all 50 states
[12:58 pm] amersaeed : thanks
[12:58 pm] frmendez67 : kris thanks i reduced my position to 1/2
[12:58 pm] Kris : I think that's a smart play
[12:58 pm] mikewd2 -: ty Kris
[12:58 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah, and I don't usually make those. You guys are making me better
[12:58 pm] sonorant : smart mike.
[12:58 pm] trvlntrdr : did we ever get the link to Mitch's recording from 2 days ago?
[12:59 pm] Kris : yes, I'll resend it shark if you didn't get it
[12:59 pm] lisas : I need it as well Kris, thanks
[12:59 pm] shark : I didn't get it. That would be great, thx!
[12:59 pm] shark : Kris, did you send out that email regarding options?
[12:59 pm] sonorant : I have charts now. It was really bizarre this morning to be able to toggle between 3 set ups and have all of these charts staring at me. Definitely a different perspective.
[01:00 pm] candelas : take care guys/gals
[01:00 pm] Kris : have a good one fry cook! see you tomorrow.
[01:00 pm] rusty : thanks and gn all
[01:01 pm] candelas : $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
[01:01 pm] guitarzan1 -: thanks for a fun day everyone. see u tomorrow
[01:01 pm] Kris : great job today pandozzi[01:01 pm] Kris : wait until you get more familiar with the trades
[01:01 pm] Kris : you're gonna turn and burn
[01:01 pm] neuronx : see u all
[01:01 pm] observer : Good night, Kris, Brent, Mitch, traders
[01:01 pm] sonorant : candles -- did you hang on to VRTX to the very end??
[01:02 pm] shark : good night everyone!
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