Chat Highlights From 10/06/2011

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[06:18 am] Kris : Good Morning Traders
[06:19 am] Kris : LH, MHS, WBMD, STZ, RT and OVTI on the short side.
[06:19 am] Kris : Today I'm watching BMRN, ATVI, LO, ZUMZ, IVN and MPEL on the long side.
[06:24 am] Brent : good morning
[06:27 am] Kris : 3 Minutes to go. Time To Rock!
[06:30 am] Kris : OVTI short half
[06:31 am] Kris : CELG short half
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching SLB for short
[06:33 am] Mitch K: looking at MPEL for short
[06:35 am] Kris : watching COST for a long, support around 78.60
[06:36 am] Kris : RIMM short half
[06:38 am] Kris : SINA short half
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching TOT for short
[06:45 am] Kris : FFIV long half
[06:45 am] Kris : SPY at trendline support
[06:46 am] Kris : looking for new lod in SINA
[06:46 am] Kris : RIMM testing lod[06:46 am] Kris : watching YOKU for a short
[06:46 am] Mitch K: consider reducing SLB short
[06:48 am] Kris : out half RIMM short
[06:49 am] Kris : ROST looking strong, look for a breakout to new hod, holding up against the selling here.
[06:49 am] Kris : watching TNA for a long
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider covering MPEL 9.25 area
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider covering TOT short
[06:49 am] Mitch K: monitoring MS for bottom
[06:51 am] Mitch K: GE has same chart pattern as MS, watching both for bottom
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching ABC for bottom
[06:53 am] Kris : out all RIMM short
[06:53 am] Mitch K: watching MCK for bottom
[06:54 am] Kris : TNA long
[06:55 am] Kris : FFIV long second half
[06:59 am] Kris : same with MRVL, look for new hod[06:59 am] Kris : watching MCP for a long, strong against the market pullback
[06:59 am] Mitch K: consider reducing ABC
[06:59 am] Mitch K: consider reducing or selling most of MCK long
[07:00 am] Mitch K: consider reducing MS
[07:01 am] Kris : MBI long half
[07:01 am] Kris : this bottom is just as rocky as the last high in the SPY, acting a little violent.
[07:01 am] Mitch K: MCK resurging up, strong
[07:03 am] Mitch K: looking for bounce in KSS
[07:05 am] Mitch K: watching IVN for short soon
[07:06 am] Mitch K: try for 17.50+ on IVN short
[07:07 am] Mitch K: GE bounce stuck, consider closing
[07:07 am] Mitch K: MCK and ABC still strong, market rebound helping
[07:07 am] Mitch K: MS also stuck too, consider closing
[07:09 am] Kris : TZA coming into lod support
[07:11 am] Kris : good job gary, yesterday afternoon a big area of support in that area. had to take some heat.
[07:11 am] Mitch K: don't short the tops of MCK and ABC
[07:12 am] Kris : I have another name for it but this is a family show.
[07:12 am] Mitch K: consider reducing more long of MCK
[07:13 am] Kris : it was exciting for a few minutes mike, acting like it was flushing stops
[07:13 am] Kris : out half FFIV long
[07:14 am] Kris : SPY trying to push hod[07:15 am] Kris : needs to lose 20.00 mbear, then I like it to 19.40 area, weak during this run in the SPY too.
[07:15 am] Mitch K: monitor SLB for another short
[07:16 am] Kris : MBI consolidating, will have to survive another round of selling then could be good to the long side again.
[07:16 am] Mitch K: AMRN worth tiny short
[07:17 am] Kris : COST short half
[07:17 am] Mitch K: consider closing rest of MCK
[07:17 am] Mitch K: consider reducing KSS long
[07:18 am] Mitch K: consider closing remaining ABC long
[07:19 am] Mitch K: let me just say this, if you do short ABC and MCK, don't expect a straight down drop like we saw on the first drop, its more of a process of "breaking down" more gradually
[07:19 am] Mitch K: top sin MCK and ABC are probably shortable, will take several repeated scalps, "working it" short. will explain this sometime
[07:20 am] Mitch K: SLB looks too strong to short, new high of day
[07:21 am] Mitch K: watching WDR for short on top of bounce
[07:22 am] Mitch K: micro trade short is AA
[07:23 am] Kris : APKT has fleas
[07:25 am] Kris : TNA consolidating under hod resistance
[07:26 am] Kris : same with MCP joey
[07:26 am] Mitch K: if any shorts don't go down much or get stuck, what we call consolidation, then close short because mkt is trying to move up
[07:27 am] Mitch K: ABC is example of consolidation; MCK is acting correctly for anyone who shorted it; AA is also acting correctly for short as well
[07:28 am] Mitch K: ESRX long
[07:32 am] Kris : TNA trying to break resistance
[07:33 am] Brent : SPY approaching hod[07:33 am] Kris : MBI near hod[07:38 am] Kris : I'm flat, backing off to see how the next 15-20 minutes shape up, scanning for new setups.
[07:43 am] Kris : longs feeling like buying today, see if they can make another high
[07:48 am] Mitch K: consider covering IVN short here 16.75
[07:48 am] Mitch K: hey guys, I'm fighting flu, I'll try to be back later
[07:53 am] Kris : SPY coming into support area
[07:56 am] Kris : I would get something more real-time dano. Finviz is gonna be hard to pull for the 3min fade scans.
[07:56 am] Kris : TNA heading for hod resistance
[08:13 am] Brent : SPY looking to test hod again
[08:30 am] Kris : yes qwert, holding the 50sma on the daily, weak against the market today and 3 day support building. should give a nice drop if it can break.
[08:31 am] Brent : SPY new hod[08:52 am] Kris : TZA at trendline resistance
[09:05 am] Kris : need better volume on the break junior, something to watch for next time, when you get diminishing volume get tight and or reduce. It was a good setup, the market is just bouncing near support.
[09:32 am] Brent : SPY consolidating at hod[09:34 am] Kris : sonorant, below 78.50, I start with half and I monitor volume over the first 3 minutes or so, if it's lame I tighten my stop.
[10:00 am] Brent : nice IRM monster
[10:29 am] Mitch K: some sort of small sell program
[10:45 am] Mitch K: what i do this time of day is often look at longer time intervals on the chart, like 5 min on indexes
[10:52 am] Brent : SPY coming into trendline resistance
[11:03 am] Kris : break time, I'll be back in 30
[11:15 am] Brent : SPY testing hod[11:23 am] Brent : SPY new hod[12:18 pm] Brent : have a great night Joey
[12:43 pm] Brent : SPY new hod[01:00 pm] Brent : have a great night everyone, see you in the morning
[01:05 pm] Kris : good night everyone. see you all tomorrow and we'll close the week out with another winner.

[05:58 am] joeytsa : sad about Steve Jobs...i guess 1 man really can change the world
[05:58 am] mikewd2 -: a bit surprised AAPL didn't sell off some
[05:59 am] candelas : ESRX getting bid premarket
[06:00 am] candelas : if he had not made the change at the helm it would have sold off more
[06:00 am] joeytsa : candelas: ESRX is on my short list of breakaway stocks too
[06:01 am] mikewd2 -: i'm going to be careful next few days since Mitch says this is a short term upswing
[06:01 am] shark : AAPL -an example of the market factoring in poss conditions 9 months down the road
[06:02 am] mikewd2 -: i still own some TNA in the 28-29 range so looking to move in next day or so
[06:05 am] joeytsa : reports: unemployment claims came in at 401k, with 411k forecast
[06:17 am] joeytsa : gap ups:ZUMZ,CMTL,ESRX,REGN,WYNN[06:18 am] joeytsa : gap downs:YHOO,AAPL,HELE[06:28 am] joeytsa : SLB getting some buying
[06:31 am] garyb : wow WYNN and LVS are shooting up!
[06:31 am] mikewd2 -: my stops on TNA have been pretty wide
[06:32 am] joeytsa : WYNN spread wide
[06:32 am] mikewd2 -: so wasn't stopped on TNA yesterday -
[06:33 am] joeytsa : AAPL moving
[06:33 am] junior : WYNN spiking
[06:33 am] mikewd2 -: well WYNN swing going to work out!
[06:34 am] joeytsa : ESRX still running !!
[06:34 am] joeytsa : tightening stop on ESRX
[06:34 am] junior : WYNN spiking, LVS dropping....go figure
[06:34 am] shark : amazing move, junior on WYNN, yeah
[06:35 am] garyb : WYNN is rocking out!
[06:35 am] joeytsa : out ESRX :)
[06:35 am] mikewd2 -: garyb - going to take the WYNN swing off - +13pts ain't bad
[06:36 am] garyb : ok..I'm out 1/2 also Mike
[06:37 am] anthonyb : still have 1/2 esrx[06:38 am] joeytsa : s ESRX 39.60
[06:40 am] garyb : raised swing stop on LVS...if I get stopped out that's 8% gain....i'll take it!
[06:41 am] joeytsa : all out ESRX
[06:41 am] skydiver : FSLR - take over chatter
[06:42 am] joeytsa : WLT might be getting toppy
[06:43 am] mikewd2 -: if market turns south, WLT will follow
[06:44 am] joeytsa : out CMTL short
[06:45 am] joeytsa : MCP moving up
[06:46 am] anthonyb : WBMD
[06:47 am] anthonyb : LO moving up
[06:48 am] garyb : all out LVS swing.....8% gain
[06:48 am] joeytsa : closed TZA for 25cent
[06:50 am] rusty : MERR halt
[06:50 am] skydiver : S SLB 62.27 - covered 61.33 - Thanks Mitch
[06:51 am] mikewd2 -: would have been a good short on WLT, but hesitated
[06:54 am] garyb : tna 34.09 L
[06:54 am] garyb : tna reversing
[06:54 am] mhaus : WWD
[06:55 am] joeytsa : TNA long 34..tight stop
[06:56 am] joeytsa : well that was fun haha[06:57 am] truck : stopped TNA
[06:58 am] joeytsa : 6-1 today on stocks, 2-0 on the ES...not too bad
[06:58 am] mikewd2 -: 33.75
[06:58 am] mikewd2 -: TNA l 33.71
[06:58 am] skydiver : L TNA 33.80
[07:00 am] joeytsa : had REGN on my morning list..missed a great move
[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: two nice calls Mitch
[07:01 am] skydiver : all out of TNA at 34.02
[07:02 am] rusty : MBI hod settlement talk with banks
[07:03 am] skydiver : TNA got too bouncy but hit my limit order -- small change but in the bucket
[07:04 am] garyb : tna is like a wild bull in the calgary stampede!
[07:04 am] skydiver : kss[07:05 am] joeytsa : AGCO might be setting up a small breakout
[07:05 am] mikewd2 -: yep, in 34.01 and 33.75
[07:06 am] mikewd2 -: out half 34.35
[07:06 am] skydiver : Now TNA takes off
[07:07 am] garyb : tried a new strategy...widened stop on TNA.....was painful to watch the red but paid off...patience
[07:08 am] electrader : L ABC 35.24 out 1/2 at 35.49 trailing remainder with stop
[07:08 am] mhaus : that's the way to go with TNA and TZA
[07:08 am] mikewd2 -: are you trading exit on 3min?
[07:08 am] shark : 3x as powerful as the regular juice garyb, 3x stop flex TNA
[07:10 am] mikewd2 -: out TNA 34.71
[07:11 am] garyb : man but it's painful to watch if you buy too early
[07:11 am] mbear : FFIV awesome Kris
[07:11 am] mbear : Great calls Mitch ABC and MCK, thanks!
[07:11 am] rusty : AA radar
[07:11 am] skydiver : Thanks for the great lesson mikewd2 and garyb[07:12 am] frmendez67 : Mitch, thx i was long MS
[07:12 am] mbear : LVS swing trade looking strong today also
[07:12 am] mikewd2 -: good call on TNA Kris
[07:13 am] shark : AAPL hod[07:14 am] joeytsa : AMZN hod[07:14 am] mbear : Kris - do you think STZ may try to fill the gap the rest of the day?
[07:14 am] pow : dang hod[07:14 am] rusty : Pershing Square 12% stake in Alcoa
[07:15 am] joeytsa : BIDU hod[07:16 am] garyb : out tna for 2% win
[07:16 am] joeytsa : APKT lod[07:16 am] joeytsa : same with AGQ
[07:18 am] electrader : out ABC 36.12
[07:18 am] joeytsa : Mitch: monster call on MCK...give yourself a raise :)
[07:18 am] mikewd2 -: trying not to see the amount, just making good trades
[07:19 am] rusty : LO radar
[07:20 am] anthonyb : Alarm just went off for ZUMZ
[07:20 am] garyb : I agree Mike
[07:20 am] rusty : AA hod[07:20 am] rusty : FDA new study on tobacco use
[07:21 am] doji : My RDN at 1.89 is working great so far....
[07:21 am] joeytsa : SLB was showing strength pre-market also
[07:23 am] anthonyb : ES breakout Joey
[07:24 am] joeytsa : been watching it anthony..been on a steady move up, but that last high was on a lower macd[07:24 am] joeytsa : sure does kris[07:24 am] rusty : LO moving up fast
[07:24 am] rusty : LO radar
[07:25 am] joeytsa : AGU having a strong day
[07:25 am] mhaus : NOV moving too
[07:26 am] joeytsa : yeah i see that
[07:27 am] mikewd2 -: WLT coming down hard
[07:28 am] joeytsa : CRM nice too, on Mitch's dsr list
[07:29 am] joeytsa : once that long swing ends, it might set up a nice short swing
[07:30 am] mikewd2 -: APA hod[07:31 am] mikewd2 -: natural gas inventories up 97BCF
[07:42 am] sonorant : candelas is truly generous!
[07:44 am] Kris : had a couple beads early but everything worked out both long and short.
[07:44 am] shark : did you break a sweat today, Kris? :)
[07:45 am] apple : yes, thx K, you are terrific and generous, too!
[07:45 am] shark : :) Thx for all that you do!
[07:46 am] anthonyb : Guilty
[07:46 am] anthonyb : The webinar has really helped me
[07:46 am] apple : yes
[07:46 am] Kris : anyone here actively trade options?
[07:46 am] Kris : glad to see many of you improving, especially since the webinar.
[07:46 am] Kris : I have an idea I want to run by you
[07:46 am] Kris : would you guys mind emailing me? kris@tradestocksamerica.com
[07:46 am] mbear : I do
[07:46 am] mikewd2 -: i do
[07:46 am] shailan : i do
[07:46 am] shark : I do
[07:47 am] anthonyb : OVTI moving down
[07:47 am] soccerfn : i do
[07:48 am] anthonyb : OVTI teasing me
[07:48 am] Kris : thanks guys, once it slows down I'll get back with you
[07:49 am] dano : thanks M for your work
[07:49 am] junior : take care of yourself mitch, hope you feel better
[07:49 am] mhaus : have some soup, mitch. Hope you feel well soon.
[07:49 am] observer : get some rest, Mitch
[07:49 am] shark : Okay, Mitch. Get some well deserved rest!
[07:49 am] skydiver : Yes, get better Mitch. Great calls even while sick - amazing
[07:49 am] terry : get well mk[07:49 am] trvlntrdr : take care mitch[07:50 am] apple : take care of yourself,MK!
[07:50 am] lisas : Out last of ROST
[07:50 am] qwert : mitch thanks for ivn trade awesome, praying for you i have been fighting the flu all week
[07:51 am] lisas : Hey Mitch, get well!
[07:55 am] dano : using finviz for 3 min fd. Looking for the filter that will give the 3+% price move from consolidation (got from the open)..any thoughts?
[07:56 am] Brent : finviz data might have too much delay but you could try it dano[07:58 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 OTVI short
[07:58 am] dano : 10-4. So really pre / post mkt[07:59 am] lightning : Dano, or you could go with Trade-Ideas as a scanner for this type of thing
[07:59 am] shark : Dano - FINVIZ has a real time service - ELITE. Maybe that would help.
[08:01 am] dano : ...so much to learn. Head up rear, have ST Elite and that has Trade Ideas...duh. Trying to spin too many plates at once and had blinders on with finviz. Stay tuned 4 more TI questions I'm sure. Thnx guys
[08:01 am] diadora : Anyone had experience with Benzinga for news feed and analyst
[08:01 am] joeytsa : hey Mitch, hope you get better, heard it in your voice last night on the dsr report
[08:01 am] rusty : MCK radar, missed it earlier
[08:03 am] joeytsa : agreed shark
[08:03 am] shark : All the R&D work you guys do (Dano -others) is really helpful here. I appreciate all the pieces everyone adds here. i think it saves us all a little bit of time.
[08:04 am] skydiver : Agreed -- Thanks as well. Really helping to speed up my learning curve
[08:04 am] sonorant : Every body's ideas are wonderful -- now if I could just learn to trade. ;-) Actually in the black this morning -- that's an improvement.
[08:05 am] dano : been stumbling and making mistakes. Have stopped and reviewed. Now I'm just gonna spin 1 plate at a time. Was getting flustered and making bad decisions. Now learn and watch charts to study S / R , pullbacks, price action, etc[08:05 am] lisas : yes, really appreciate all the input from everyone, learning as fast as I can, lol[08:05 am] sonorant : I would be lost without the ideas -- there is so much to learn
[08:06 am] candelas : Obama is speaking
[08:06 am] joeytsa : sometimes its information overload
[08:06 am] lightning : "find my mojo" = make better decisions
[08:06 am] lightning : Dano, sometimes that is what you need to do. I've blundered the last two days, so I'm paper trading today to "find my mojo".
[08:06 am] qwert : obama short
[08:06 am] skydiver : Time for shorting then
[08:07 am] joeytsa : i missed a great trade that i was prepared to take..had too many other plates spinning
[08:08 am] dano : over trying amongst other things. In addition to learning, having platform issues, data streaming issues...aarrgg. Waayyy too many things going against me, so I just halted the train(wreck) to review
[08:08 am] skydiver : I'm good for spinning 1/2 a plate at a time -- got to run into the office. Take care all.
[08:09 am] rusty : AA back to its 10dma
[08:09 am] skydiver : Been great so far!! 5 wins in a row! See you all later --
[08:10 am] rusty : LO cooperating
[08:12 am] terry : you guys are gonna make me a good trader one of these days
[08:13 am] dano : roger that terry
[08:14 am] anthonyb : book em dano[08:14 am] dano : anthony my man, that's the goal..lol[08:16 am] anthonyb : finally! ZUMZ
[08:17 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 ZUMZ short
[08:23 am] qwert : they are all just riveted with the speech
[08:23 am] shark : The buyers and believers are mesmerized, the sellers are .....heck, selling
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: knew i should have gone into TZA
[08:24 am] powertrade11 : the economy needs certainty bottom line
[08:28 am] qwert : kris do you like cost for short below 78.60
[08:30 am] qwert : never mind cost
[08:31 am] joeytsa : PCLN right on cue..hit resistance and back down
[08:32 am] anthonyb : ok gang, I'm done. Here's to another good day. I hope everyone else has the same. see you tomorrow
[08:32 am] Brent : have a good one Anthonyb[08:33 am] anthonyb : by the way 5 for 6 today. with good trade management
[08:40 am] rusty : VIX back to its 50dma
[08:41 am] qwert : cost getting close to lod[08:41 am] rusty : http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20111006-uyp u-108kb.jpg
[08:43 am] doji : I my RDN bet is already 12.5% only today
[08:43 am] doji : The market is really flying today!
[08:43 am] lightning : watching BAC for a short, though would like it past 6.25 first
[08:45 am] doji : I ma now scare to take longs as you never know how much they will reverse, right?
[08:47 am] lightning : i agree
[08:47 am] rusty : not sure if I mentioned them here
[08:47 am] rusty : selling BAC and C swings into this strength
[08:54 am] dano : throttling back, gonna do a jog and clear my head and review. Good day everyone, may be back for day's end.
[08:55 am] dano : ..and thanks again for the tips and education
[08:57 am] junior : short COST 78.56
[09:01 am] doji : Watch out COST Junior
[09:02 am] junior : yeah, stopped out
[09:02 am] mikewd2 -: hard to short successfully today
[09:06 am] junior : OK, thanks Kris, I will watch for that
[09:07 am] apple : B - can you put up the SPY chart, thx
[09:07 am] jsn13 : Maybe with trandline on SPY chart...thanks....
[09:07 am] terry : apkt hod[09:08 am] lightning : evidently APKT found flea medicine
[09:12 am] jsn13 : SPy still can be considered as holding the trendline?
[09:13 am] shark : SPY still decent -pull back here, consolidating.
[09:17 am] sonorant : Kris, on that COST break out (that wasn't), how far below the support line would you choose to short? And was the lack of volume a deal breaker for you?
[09:22 am] candelas : the fleabag APKT hod[09:25 am] joeytsa : APKT been interesting the past 2 days
[09:25 am] terry : FSLR turning up
[09:33 am] joeytsa : BIDU hod [09:32 am] joeytsa : PPO hod [09:31 am] terry : KRO turning over
[09:33 am] shark : NFLX hod[09:35 am] joeytsa : SPX at 20d resistance
[09:36 am] qwert : bye everyone traveling this afternoon see ya in the am thanks for another good day
[09:36 am] sonorant : Thanks Kris, I'll put up the chart and look at it again.
[09:37 am] joeytsa : so geitner says US banks are not at risk of failing
[09:38 am] candelas : they will be the backstop for the major banks
[09:38 am] joeytsa : he looked confused while talking
[09:38 am] Kris : well if geitner says so
[09:43 am] joeytsa : FSLR about 4 points from 20d resistance, its been reversing each time it gets there
[09:43 am] sonorant : Kris, so when COST turned up, rather than continuing down, does that make a high probability for a bounce once it gets above the support/resistance?
[09:44 am] joeytsa : the last 3 bars( green) have been on lower volume
[09:44 am] mikewd2 -: i was looking at it
[09:44 am] monster : anyone like tza here
[09:45 am] joeytsa : re: FSLR..that was on the daily chart
[09:46 am] apple : that's right
[09:47 am] joeytsa : mike/monster...i got a TZA buy signal approx 44.95 on my ES chart
[09:47 am] mikewd2 -: TZA punching thru the trend
[09:47 am] sonorant : what about shorting COST for its downward trend back to the support junior tried to short it from? It has bounced up and off that line and returned many times. Is on the downward slope now, and market is down
[09:48 am] joeytsa : about 9:33ampst
[09:48 am] mikewd2 -: i'm going to pass on this one
[09:49 am] sonorant : the other thing wrong with that plan is the location of VWAP
[09:49 am] sonorant : well, what could be wrong with that plan is the market turning around...
[09:49 am] trvlntrdr : I don't think Spy will make it above HOD, MACD is negatively divergent at last high
[09:52 am] joeytsa : FSLR lower highs
[09:54 am] joeytsa : for those holding overnight tonight, don't forget we have a job report in the morning
[09:55 am] joeytsa : also..earnings kicks off soon..should set up some decent swings both ways
[09:56 am] joeytsa : have to play them shorter-term in this market though
[09:57 am] mhaus : CBST may be worth a small short soon [09:57 am] joeytsa : DECK,CROX,BIDU all pre-announced better than expected...looking to see some volume increase on those b4 a play is in order
[09:57 am] terry : IOC crashing
[09:58 am] junior : I know... not supposed to revenge trade, but short COST 79.25 getting some money back
[09:58 am] monster : irm[09:58 am] pow : mako[10:00 am] victor51 : i have to run to airport. will be back. Good luck
[10:01 am] Kris : thanks monster
[10:03 am] shark : AAPL looking like it wants to go lower
[10:04 am] doji : SPY at support here
[10:06 am] shark : here goes AAPL ...
[10:11 am] garyb : tna looks good on 2 & 3 min charts
[10:12 am] joeytsa : AGQ hod[10:12 am] mhaus : FFIV
[10:16 am] mhaus : FNSR
[10:19 am] monster : irm not doing anything
[10:19 am] rusty : OPTT radar...sorry little late but worth watching
[10:20 am] shark : too low a volume stock for me, rusty
[10:27 am] Brent : you can use a Kensington USB adapter Lisas[10:27 am] lisas : Question: I have to send my trading computer back for warranty work. I have a pretty new Dell laptop that I have an extra monitor on. Can I hook up 3 more with some kind of adapter?
[10:28 am] lisas : Hmmm, don't know, how do I find out?
[10:28 am] lisas : Thanks, I'm guessing windows 7 will configure it once hooked up?
[10:28 am] trvlntrdr : will the video card support it Lisa
[10:30 am] sonorant : Mitch -- on what? IRM?
[10:30 am] trvlntrdr : I think you can look at your hardware configuration in the system tab
[10:30 am] trvlntrdr : Most likely it will only support 2 monitors.
[10:32 am] trvlntrdr : I have macs but only trade in the bootcamp [10:31 am] garyb : anyone using a Mac? [10:30 am] trvlntrdr : then look up the device and see
[10:32 am] trvlntrdr : My main trading computer is a windows 7 machine
[10:33 am] garyb : nice think about mac is the "SPaces" ..I have 6 desktops on 1 computer...and with my mouse wheel I can switch from one to the other in a flash...nice when you are on the go
[10:33 am] mhaus : Lisas, check this out http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It em=N82E16815242003
[10:34 am] Brent : I have a Mac that I run windows on
[10:34 am] sonorant : a la Vans...?
[10:34 am] sonorant : What is the deal with IRM? Do you think this will last exactly 42 minutes?
[10:35 am] garyb : Me too Brent...one of my "Spaces" has Paralles running on it...window 7
[10:35 am] sonorant : Brent, are you trading on a Mac?
[10:35 am] trvlntrdr : garyb do you like parallel better than bootcamp?
[10:36 am] Brent : a mac computer, but it's running Windows
[10:36 am] garyb : I've never used bootcamp..but Parellels is great. I had a tradestation account and it ran their platform really well
[10:36 am] lisas : trvlntrdr, I don't see a system "tab", I can get into control, my computer, etc.
[10:36 am] shark : little early on AAPL -but added to my position on the pullback
[10:37 am] garyb : Now I don't have the tradestation...but any Windows program works great
[10:37 am] lisas : I got into device manager, but under video it just has audio info
[10:37 am] lisas : windows 7
[10:37 am] trvlntrdr : lisa are you on mac or windows
[10:38 am] lisas : I'm there
[10:38 am] trvlntrdr : hit device manager
[10:38 am] trvlntrdr : under control panel, system icon
[10:39 am] lisas : ok, ati mobility radeon hd 550v, so I go look up and see if that will support 4, then I can buy adapter like several mentioned?
[10:39 am] trvlntrdr : then I think it is display adapter
[10:40 am] lisas : Thanks all, saw the link mhaus :)
[10:40 am] shark : nice weeklies option trade AAPL $350 put (Oct 7 expire) -so far .12 to .34/contract
[10:40 am] trvlntrdr : If it supports 4 I think you just need what Brent said
[10:41 am] Brent : http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Universal-Mu lti-Display-Adapter-Black/dp/B002F9NSMQ/ref=s r_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317922852& sr=8-1
[10:41 am] Brent : with this adapter, all you need is a USB port
[10:41 am] lisas : thanks Brent!
[10:41 am] sonorant : Brent, Kris, -- thoughts on IRM?
[10:41 am] trvlntrdr : The one Mhaus pointed out, I am not familiar with, if that upgrades the processing you may be able to use it for a regular 2 monitor device card
[10:42 am] lisas : I wondered when you typed usb, that's cool!
[10:43 am] mhaus : Lisas, I use 4 of these connected to a USB hub http://www.meritline.com/mygica-ushow-1080p-u sb-graphic-adapter-dvi-output---p-42351.aspx< br /> [10:43 am] rusty : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003IE49T8/?gclid=CP D4_eLN1KsCFZFU7Aod5GpxPw
[10:43 am] shailan : Lisas, I have this Kensington adapter ,work perfect
[10:44 am] mhaus : so now you have a lot of options :)
[10:44 am] trvlntrdr : Yes, lisas that is what we were mentioning, it is an external video card, pretty handy for traders
[10:45 am] garyb : Spy is dropping
[10:45 am] trvlntrdr : Brents device, --is that the same as yours mhaus[10:46 am] doji : Long USB
[10:46 am] rusty : CTXS radar
[10:46 am] trvlntrdr : garyb about parallels, you dont need to re-boot the device, right?
[10:47 am] garyb : no never..I run my mac and parallels all at once...it's amazing
[10:47 am] trvlntrdr : Boot camp works fine but you have to re-boot
[10:48 am] garyb : don't have to switch...in one "Space" I have my PC...in the other "Space" my mac...and I switch between them in a flash - the thing about stock trading you really need a PC for it..but parallels makes it easy
[10:48 am] trvlntrdr : Mitch had a nice overview of computer hard ware about 2 years ago, I might be able to forward it if I can find it.
[10:49 am] trvlntrdr : Garyb i might check that out. I run my finance software on my macs but it is in the windows section, have to re-boot
[10:50 am] garyb : here is the website trv http://www.parallels.com/ca/products/desktop/
[10:50 am] trvlntrdr : I ended up just buying a trading windows system but everything else is on a mac. like this I using.
[10:50 am] trvlntrdr : I had trouble before
[10:50 am] trvlntrdr : Thanks for the link I heard of it but was leary of 3rd party software for macs
[10:52 am] garyb : This works great....I have had some minor issues here and there...but nothing bad...plus I can tweak it, have not bothered yet
[10:54 am] garyb : actually trvIntrdr the USA site is http://www.parallels.com/
[10:56 am] rusty : great part of this room....ask a question about anything and you got lotta responses
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: been playing with etrade strategy scanners - it's amazing all the criteria you can scan with.
[10:58 am] lisas : etrade bumped me out of pro, not trading enough.
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: i still can't decide what platform to change [10:58 am] mikewd2 -: they have been pretty good to me, they lowered my commissions to 5.99 - fixing to see if they will go lower
[10:59 am] trvlntrdr : It seems like there is no reason to get rid of them completely, mikewd.
[11:00 am] garyb : even that can add up
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: i know they cost me some money but it's a nice platform that i'm comfortable with
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: with the speed keys I've got pretty good with trades, etc.
[11:00 am] trvlntrdr : a lot of pros have multiple accounts, use what is best at the moment
[11:01 am] apple : i have my ira with etrade and another smaller account - i love the scanner, charts, etc. - actively daytrading - no - way too slow and expensive
[11:01 am] mikewd2 -: APA breaking out to new hod[11:01 am] trvlntrdr : you could use the scanners and only do larger swing trades with them
[11:02 am] mikewd2 -: expensive yes, not sure about the speed - with the speed keys i can execute a trade pretty quick.
[11:05 am] sonorant : So Mitch mentioned a small sell program -- does anyone know what that is?
[11:07 am] lightning : I think he was referring to an algorithmic trading program used by hedge funds or trading departments of investment banks that trigger either buys or sells when a specific measurable set of facts align.
[11:10 am] lightning : i think he was talking about what was happening in the SPY at that moment.
[11:10 am] sonorant : And is that what is up with IRM?
[11:11 am] sonorant : Oh... thanks. So what is up with IRM? It looks like that has someone with a program set to sell small lots every time someone wants to buy.
[11:12 am] lightning : it looks to me that someone is trying to unload a bunch at 29.00, which is why it can't get through it.
[11:13 am] lightning : but I'm just guessing. It looks like they are using a non-visible limit order at 29.00
[11:13 am] sonorant : right, but slowly -- so as not to trash the price
[11:14 am] sonorant : ok, so non-visible limit order? non-visible?
[11:15 am] lightning : on some platforms you can choose to make limit orders completely non-visible, partially non-visible or completely visible. I know it sounds goofy, but you can. And that's to not scare off potential investors on the other side
[11:15 am] trvlntrdr : yes some companies can do that. IT is probably a mutual fund
[11:16 am] lightning : On Lightspeed, for example, I can set up limit orders that way. I always use visible because I'm not trying to move tens of thousands of shares.
[11:16 am] sonorant : if the quantity is large... sounds devious
[11:17 am] lightning : yes, that is why Level 2 is useful but sometimes it isn't an accurate picture of what is really going on.
[11:17 am] trvlntrdr : that is why level 2 isn't as good as it used to be
[11:18 am] sonorant : fascinating. Thanks.
[11:19 am] mhaus : Hey Lisas, forgot to mention. You may get $20 off the USB-VGA adapter from Meritline with this code "MLC10B5N"
[11:19 am] trvlntrdr : think about it-- 1 million share of irm traded around that price.
[11:21 am] lisas : thanks mhaus!
[11:22 am] doji : Hey guys, keep all these "secrets" for when I need help...will buy a desktop in December... already in my list for "Santa"
[11:22 am] trvlntrdr : get a lot of ram
[11:23 am] doji : 12MB minimum
[11:24 am] doji : SPY moving
[11:24 am] sonorant : trvintrdr -- I am thinking about it. I am also thinking that anyone who viewed the chart would just walk away and wait.
[11:24 am] trvlntrdr : I think mitch said he has 32!
[11:25 am] sonorant : 32 MB of ram? That is a LOT.
[11:25 am] trvlntrdr : sonorant I was just making a comment-- not for you to think-- just the fact that probably a couple firms unloaded 20 mil $ worth of that stock at a single price.
[11:28 am] sonorant : okay, I'm going to see if I can get my hot keys to work on Ninja. I thought I set them up, and then when I used them, nothing happened.
[11:28 am] trvlntrdr : NT has preloaded hot keys -- did you use those?
[11:29 am] mikewd2 -: i think you have to enable the use of hot keys also, at least you do on etrade[11:29 am] sonorant : I'm going to try those first, but I tried to make custom ones for buying and selling
[11:30 am] mikewd2 -: was fully expecting a big sell off towards the end of today.
[11:30 am] sonorant : the preloaded chart ones work
[11:30 am] trvlntrdr : as I get more experienced and get a faster data service, then I will need to do what you are doing, as Kris recommended
[11:30 am] trvlntrdr : I have only used the preloaded ones
[11:31 am] sonorant : I may just be hastening my demise.
[11:31 am] trvlntrdr : right now I can't make fast trades any way with IB data feed -- I am way behind in the am rush
[11:32 am] trvlntrdr : I lost a lot of money on those lightning trades before I learned that I could get faster data.
[11:33 am] trvlntrdr : So I am only sim trading the first 1/2 hour
[11:35 am] sonorant : yes, early morning is my worst time.
[11:36 am] trvlntrdr : I am going to check out kinetick when I get the money
[11:39 am] garyb : yeh sonorant...I don't trade the open anymore as it's my weakness...I wait 20 minutes or so...watch what's going and ..prowl..and attack! lol[11:39 am] sonorant : good, so I'm not alone!
[11:40 am] candelas : practice and more practice and study will help
[11:42 am] mikewd2 -: I agree garyb, that's what i've been doing also
[11:43 am] garyb : man it helps eh Mike
[11:43 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, i was taking a couple quick trades - was head faked and started off with a couple loses. Mindset then was all wrong.
[11:44 am] garyb : I could not agree more!
[11:44 am] garyb : Then you in the ...gotta make my money back mentality...no good
[11:44 am] sonorant : yes, hard to recover then
[11:45 am] mikewd2 -: get back to even
[11:45 am] mikewd2 -: right, my number one problem!
[11:46 am] garyb : I hear you...the old revenge trading! danger....one guy from our webinar.."Kevin" recommended an audio book to me...it is simply amazing! It's all about keeping cool while trading! Incredible!
[11:46 am] mikewd2 -: i remember that conversation
[11:47 am] doji : Guys, I agree with you 100%... once you start with a loss then it is very difficult to change the mindset
[11:47 am] garyb : it was around $30 and is making a big difference...
[11:47 am] joeytsa : revenge trading can be dangerous to your wealth
[11:47 am] joeytsa : same with marrying a stock
[11:47 am] junior : SPRD
[11:47 am] sonorant : IRM showing minor signs of life.
[11:48 am] doji : I have improved 1000% (thousand) if I wait 20min or more until the indicators stabilize before I enter any trade
[11:48 am] joeytsa : good plan doji...lots of traders let the open settle into a trend then go with that trend
[11:48 am] joeytsa : personally i love the open
[11:48 am] sonorant : good to hear all of this
[11:49 am] garyb : because you are a true gap pro Joey! lol[11:49 am] garyb : I just started that this week.......my trading is much better
[11:49 am] joeytsa : they don't all work out, been working on something new with my gaps
[11:49 am] joeytsa : yeah i wish
[11:49 am] mikewd2 -: now i still do a bit of premarket trades
[11:50 am] joeytsa : as the markets change, and as i gain more knowledge..i have had to change
[11:50 am] joeytsa : my main focus to learn is the middle part of the day
[11:50 am] joeytsa : still tweaking things here and there...
[11:50 am] mikewd2 -: i've got to study the webinar on gaps again. I'm just lost.
[11:50 am] mikewd2 -: when you get it joey, send us a email of how to do it
[11:51 am] candelas : and the old saying "don't stay wrong long"
[11:51 am] candelas : the nice thing about gaps is that it does not take long to figure if ur on the right/wrong side
[11:52 am] candelas : i think sometimes issue could be when 1 stays too long then it turns to hope
[11:52 am] joeytsa : i used to use really wide stops...trying to tighten them
[11:52 am] Kris : very true candelas, they are either one way or the other, don't see too many gaps stay flat.
[11:52 am] mikewd2 -: need this market to heat up, a bit bored.
[11:52 am] sonorant : good point candles
[11:53 am] garyb : it's a bit of a gamble though is it not? I mean right out of the gate 9:30 am
[11:53 am] joeytsa : lot of gaps end up both ways...can get 2 trades out of them, like Mitch likes to do on his scalps
[11:53 am] Kris : 9:32 or 9:33
[11:53 am] Kris : some of them piddle a little
[11:54 am] doji : The only "problem" is to know on which side to be at the right time
[11:54 am] doji : with gaps
[11:54 am] joeytsa : markets have changed a bit since i learned my gap strategy
[11:54 am] joeytsa : still have more research/study to do
[11:54 am] Kris : I just set an alert
[11:55 am] mikewd2 -: that's what i mentioned sonorant - same as on etrade pro
[11:55 am] sonorant : okay, I had to enable the order entry hot keys -- just those -- they are special.
[11:56 am] candelas : what helped me get over hump, is my mindset for gaps is "be quick decisive" dont get caught flat footed
[11:56 am] mikewd2 -: safety feature
[11:56 am] sonorant : yes, good call, you were right. Had to resort to reading the instructions.
[11:57 am] candelas : i recall the video of Mitch's dog starring
[11:57 am] garyb : I have a button on the computer that yells "SELL SELL SELL" in cramer's voice! lol[11:57 am] joeytsa : agreed candelas..when i learned, you basically had to shoot first ask questions later
[11:57 am] mhaus : SAN
[11:57 am] sonorant : plus, as you said your homework -- that magic list of yours. You know what you are up to going in.
[11:58 am] candelas : i agree, ur using your eyes and what you see and don't allow urself to think just act
[11:58 am] joeytsa : also why i used market orders, still do in a fast mover
[11:58 am] joeytsa : old habit trying to rid
[11:58 am] joeytsa : on gap ups, i always entered on the open to hit the uptick or i would miss the short
[11:59 am] candelas : ticker tape??
[11:59 am] joeytsa : back then i didn't even use indicators haha[11:59 am] joeytsa : i saw gap up and thought auto-pilot short
[12:00 pm] garyb : How about the futures and premarket data? When I see we are going to open 200 points lower in the DOW I almost expect a bounce? And vice versa...but it's not always the case
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : any stock gapping over 4 points was "in play"
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : i had a gap scanner and cnbc...
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : this was late 90's..lots of stocks gapped 4, 8, 12 points
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : honestly gary...i could never figure futures out except how the market would open...
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : i could never tell which way it would go from there
[12:03 pm] candelas : I learned from Kris that's why it is good to have a list coming into day of potential shorts/longs
[12:04 pm] candelas : it helps take any guess work out of equation
[12:04 pm] joeytsa : have to be flexible
[12:04 pm] joeytsa : i am working on that candelas...i still find my gaps 20 minutes b4 the open
[12:04 pm] Kris : the hardest days I've had is when I was too biased one way or the other coming into the session
[12:04 pm] Kris : the thing that has helped me the most is staying flexible.
[12:05 pm] candelas : great wisdom Sir Kris
[12:05 pm] Kris : another one will be along in 15 minutes
[12:05 pm] Kris : if not, move on
[12:05 pm] Kris : recognize a bad spot and see if the other side has enough money to warrant a flip.
[12:05 pm] Kris : stocks are like buses
[12:05 pm] lightning : Oh, I thought you meant smelly and late
[12:07 pm] candelas : MCP strong today, missed it on nightly review
[12:07 pm] candelas : nice setup on daily from yesterday
[12:07 pm] garyb : Yeh...I'm trying to be too joey
[12:07 pm] joeytsa : i have learned to be better at trade management
[12:07 pm] monster : mdr[12:08 pm] joeytsa : heck, i used to use a cookie cutter approach on gaps...
[12:08 pm] joeytsa : now at least i use indicators
[12:09 pm] candelas : IRM woke up
[12:09 pm] joeytsa : 25/50 rule...stock gapped 8 points, profit target was 4 points, stop loss 2 points....
[12:09 pm] joeytsa : trying to incorporate the tsa % approach, but i still see $'s better
[12:09 pm] pow : AAPL is in a trending triangle with breakout around 385.
[12:09 pm] sonorant : I choose something for decrease price -- Ctrl-Alt down arrow that turned my entire screen upside down.
[12:10 pm] candelas : that's a looong rounded bottom
[12:10 pm] garyb : another last hour rally perhaps? day 3?
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : re: DECK earnings....might have a nice run if it can bust the $105 area
[12:18 pm] joeytsa : gotta check out early...good trading to everyone, see ya tomorrow
[12:19 pm] joeytsa : thanks Brent, Kris, Mitch..get well
[12:23 pm] mhaus : This is what I love about this chat room. Everyone is willing to help, no matter what the problem.
[12:24 pm] mhaus : MCP
[12:24 pm] sonorant : and after that, I am still in the IRM trade, with a few shares....
[12:26 pm] rusty : When Reagan was in office we had Johnny Cash , Bob Hope and Steve Jobs. With Obama we have no cash , no hope, and no jobs [12:25 pm] candelas : take care, Im gone to sons' football game
[12:27 pm] mhaus : Good one, Rusty!
[12:29 pm] Brent : take care Candelas
[12:31 pm] victor51 : Brent, can you please send me a link for mitch's lesson yesterday Thanks
[12:33 pm] doji : Markets moving at the close again... this is great!
[12:34 pm] Brent : you mean two days ago Victor?
[12:34 pm] doji : Just watching my swings working right...
[12:35 pm] Brent : it's in the documents folder. Lower right of the Trading Room. There is a pdf there.
[12:35 pm] victor51 : yes
[12:37 pm] Brent : if you don't see it Victor email me. brent@tradestocksamerica.com
[12:40 pm] victor51 : thanks Brent.
[12:44 pm] doji : I hope the unemployment rate tomorrow (or Greece) don't mess up this rally
[12:44 pm] mikewd2 -: almost a 10 point run in TNA in two days! what a turn around.
[12:45 pm] sonorant : doji -- tomorrow is Friday, that won't help, will it?
[12:46 pm] lisas : I think equities are, some futures are not
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: i think banks are closed
[12:46 pm] mikewd2 -: TNA will not push thru 36.50
[12:46 pm] sonorant : guys is the market open on MOnday? Columbus day on Tuesday the 11th? Some kind of notification about it in Schwab
[12:49 pm] garyb : wow..that was a nail biter with TNA
[12:50 pm] garyb : me too! I sold it! Looked at time...thought it would fizzle out
[12:50 pm] garyb : Mike are you in TNA?
[12:50 pm] mikewd2 -: i waited and waited for a break thru
[12:50 pm] mikewd2 -: i was out 36.47
[12:50 pm] mikewd2 -: no, i'm all out now
[12:50 pm] mikewd2 -: now it punches thru
[12:51 pm] mikewd2 -: that would have been a nice $250 bonus oh well
[12:52 pm] garyb : me too...that's what I meant...don't always type well
[12:52 pm] garyb : same here ..you had 100 shares?
[12:52 pm] lisas : 3:40 has often been the time of a move last few weeks
[12:52 pm] mikewd2 -: 1000
[12:52 pm] mikewd2 -: sold 36.47 - it went to near .75
[12:53 pm] garyb : I sold at 36.41....made a profit....but it popped now...and still is!
[12:53 pm] mikewd2 -: getting close and i believe Mitch is right we are heading back down at some point
[12:54 pm] garyb : almost want it too.....set us up again for some nice longs
[12:54 pm] lisas : I sold some earlier as well, tried getting in a couple times with small lots, had resting orders for this move to add. Sold my swings with good profit, wishing I hadn't but I guess that's the way it goes
[12:54 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah, I need to reload tna at 26-28 again
[12:55 pm] garyb : at some point we will get a good rally in my humble opinion...so it would be nice Mike at 26
[12:56 pm] lisas : pretty strong finish just before major report, wonder if someone knows something, or thinks they do. Will be interesting tomorrow.
[12:57 pm] garyb : that's for sure LisaS.....I share your frustration though...but the way I see it, I try to be green all the time....even if it's smaller but I'm thankful to get a good ride once in a while...market is tough
[12:58 pm] garyb : Have a great night everyone....my tee time is in 1 hour! Foooooreee!
[12:59 pm] doji : Bye guys, no trading today, just watched my swings to move upwards....
[12:59 pm] lisas : bonds sinking
[01:01 pm] lisas : nite all, thanks Mitch, Kris, Brent and all!
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