Chat Highlights From 10/04/2011

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[06:19 am] Brent : good morning
[06:20 am] Mitch K: Hi guys and gals. European markets accelerated to the downside so far and it looks like a climax is starting to develop. The comment I made yesterday that long bounces should be strong today after an initial drop won't be as valid today yet because it looks like the market is still pricing in for a big fallout soon. The overnight lending rates bank to bank is spiking and the first casualty of a bank failure in Europe looks like it is focused around Dexia. So the credit crunch is clearly starting the same way ours did in September 2008 with Lehman and Bear Stearns. My guess is stocks dropping early this morning will have a bigger and longer time frame of falling prices than normal. But as always, trade what you see, not what you expect.
[06:25 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:26 am] Kris : BMY, MCP, UBS, HGSI and XRX on the long side.
[06:26 am] Kris : Today I'm watching BC, BP, CRL, DHR, FFIV, TIBX and YOKU to the short side
[06:30 am] Kris : AGNC short
[06:31 am] Kris : SODA long half
[06:32 am] Kris : out half AGNC short
[06:33 am] Kris : KSS long half
[06:34 am] Kris : OVTI long half
[06:35 am] Kris : SOHU long half
[06:36 am] Kris : NFLX long half
[06:36 am] Kris : out half OVTI long
[06:37 am] Kris : SPY trying for new hod[06:39 am] Brent : watching WPRT for a bounce
[06:40 am] Kris : out half KSS long
[06:41 am] Kris : looking for new hod in NFLX
[06:42 am] Kris : TEVA short half
[06:43 am] Kris : IMAX short half
[06:43 am] Mitch K: looking for quick bounce in LVS soon
[06:45 am] Kris : KMP short half
[06:46 am] Kris : SNDK short half
[06:48 am] Mitch K: consider selling that quick LVS bounce long
[06:51 am] Kris : SPY new lod[06:52 am] Kris : more sellers coming in here
[06:52 am] Kris : out another 1/4 OVTI long
[06:55 am] Kris : out half KMP short
[06:56 am] Kris : out half IMAX short
[06:56 am] Kris : sellers still winning the battle
[06:56 am] Kris : starting to watch TNA
[06:58 am] Kris : watching RRC for a long
[06:59 am] Kris : YUM long half
[07:00 am] Kris : coming into resistance area
[07:00 am] Kris : if you got TNA long, look to take some profit and bump up your stop here in this area.
[07:01 am] Kris : SPY coming down to test the lows
[07:01 am] Mitch K: Bernanke: Sluggish job growth ahead. just released, caused reversal
[07:03 am] Kris : sorry
[07:03 am] Kris : SRTY
[07:03 am] Kris : STRY long over 31.66
[07:03 am] Mitch K: watching for bounce in AIG
[07:04 am] Kris : SNDK new lows
[07:04 am] Kris : TEVA still has fleas
[07:05 am] Kris : borderline
[07:05 am] Kris : KMP looking like a 3min fade long
[07:05 am] Kris : out all KMP
[07:06 am] Kris : retailers strong against the market
[07:06 am] Kris : RIMM coming into support areas, start to look for profits and move your stop if you're still short.
[07:06 am] Mitch K: watching for bottom in IOC,
[07:06 am] Mitch K: watching for bounce in MON
[07:08 am] Kris : AKAM long half
[07:08 am] Kris : NVLS long half
[07:09 am] Kris : NTAP long half
[07:09 am] Mitch K: AIG bounce weak, closing
[07:10 am] Kris : CREE long half
[07:10 am] Mitch K: watching ARO for shortable top
[07:11 am] Kris : see if we can test hod in SPY
[07:11 am] Kris : still seeing buyers hanging in there
[07:12 am] Kris : NIHD long half
[07:12 am] Kris : set an alert on SPY at 107.50
[07:13 am] Kris : doji and skydiver should team up. doji enters and skydiver manages
[07:13 am] Mitch K: consider selling MON
[07:14 am] Kris : OVTI making new highs, anyone still long OVTI?
[07:15 am] Mitch K: Bernanke live on tv[07:15 am] Mitch K: expect gyrations in market
[07:16 am] Kris : getting more green coming across the board, watch that trendline resistance.
[07:17 am] Kris : out half AKAM long
[07:17 am] Kris : out half NTAP long
[07:18 am] Kris : out half CREE long
[07:18 am] Kris : out half NVLS long
[07:18 am] Kris : SPY holding up so far
[07:22 am] Mitch K: ARO is a trade that should give repeated trades, mostly on the short side
[07:28 am] Kris : SPY trying to bottom here at support.
[07:30 am] Kris : I'm watching AMX, PBR, JEF, AMED, SPLS and IGT for possible shorts if we break lod in SPY
[07:31 am] Kris : buyers coming back here
[07:31 am] Kris : higher low in the SPY, see if we can get another test of hod[07:34 am] Mitch K: PCAR 2nd helping short
[07:36 am] Kris : AKAM new highs
[07:38 am] Mitch K: consider covering LULU
[07:39 am] Kris : watching ERTS, SIG, SWKS and FNSR as possible longs if we break hod in SPY
[07:39 am] Mitch K: consider cancelling 2nd helping short on ARO, or covering, likely to go higher
[07:39 am] Mitch K: getting some buying here. probably get more after Congressional hearings over with Bernanke
[07:40 am] Mitch K: cancel or close PCAR 2nd helping short
[07:41 am] Kris : SPY about to test hod resistance
[07:54 am] Kris : out all AKAM long
[07:55 am] Kris : out all CREE long
[07:55 am] Kris : yes, I was long doji[08:01 am] Kris : SPY resistance becoming support, see if it can hold the low side of the consolidation here.
[08:06 am] Kris : holding trendline support
[08:06 am] Kris : TNA about to break new hod[08:07 am] Mitch K: LONG SWING TRADES: WYNN and LVS are excellent long swing trade ideas that are giving buy signals today
[08:08 am] Mitch K: estimated hold time for WYNN and LVS is 1-2 weeks
[08:16 am] Kris : no short fade on that anthonyb[08:16 am] Kris : see that trendline, too many support levels and the market is in an uptrend.
[08:17 am] Kris : not a bad spot to close it anthony, nice trade.
[08:17 am] Kris : that's the way to do it. textbook.
[08:19 am] Mitch K: two other LONG SWING ideas: FMCN, BIDU
[08:38 am] Mitch K: looking for a bounce on the indexes, will affect many larger popular stocks
[08:59 am] Kris : this FMCN nice consolidation
[09:03 am] Kris : yes qwert[09:03 am] Mitch K: high of day on Nasdaq Composite
[09:04 am] Mitch K: new highs on SP 500
[09:16 am] Mitch K: CSE alert
[09:17 am] Mitch K: CSE halted
[09:40 am] Mitch K: looking for higher highs on indexes
[10:00 am] Mitch K: it looks like we are getting an important buy signal that many stocks are moving up off the previous lows of August 8th-9th. It seems odd that we are getting a rebound with the Greece situation still quite negative but this could also just be backing and filling as well as a boost from Bernanke hearings
[10:31 am] Brent : SFLY alert
[10:35 am] Brent : good one shark on AM
[10:42 am] Mitch K: on the announcement that iPad ap greeting cards are sent digitally, at much lower cost
[10:42 am] Mitch K: watching AM, American Greetings fall
[10:51 am] Brent : careful with AM here, consolidating
[11:54 am] Mitch K: I'd like to go through those 4 swing trade ideas on a daily chart here
[11:55 am] Mitch K: FMCN, Focus Media. had a drop from around $33 to 17 in 2 weeks and the drop slowed down yesterday, which got my attention. The reversal today from around $16 to a high of $20 was very big, 25% price range but there is more upside to this. At least a lot of the risk is out of it.
[11:56 am] Mitch K: what these do, as in the case with this one, FMCN, is they can have a big pop like this and then pullback, could even go back under $18 and in the following days its most common to see it work itself out and move to higher highs.
[11:57 am] Mitch K: With the lower priced stocks, or the lower you go in price, the higher percentage of stop loss you need.
[11:59 am] Mitch K: just a min, one moment
[11:59 am] Mitch K: let me go back to FMCN for a sec
[12:02 pm] Mitch K: is the stochastics covered up?
[12:02 pm] Mitch K: so today's move up on FMCN helped move the stochastics up, see that?
[12:04 pm] Mitch K: see that now?
[12:04 pm] Mitch K: the black line, which is the stochastics %K is hooking up, even if i change the settings, let me do that
[12:05 pm] Mitch K: oh this is esignal by the way, you can use any charting, will look the same
[12:06 pm] Mitch K: and that 10 days uses more data from another days. 8 is more sensitive and gives an earlier signal
[12:06 pm] Mitch K: ok, see how the %K changed and is not hooking upward yet? I changed the %K from 8 to 10, 10 uses the previous 10 days, or bars. its days because I'm on a daily chart setting
[12:07 pm] Mitch K: ok, so let me change that back to 8,7,6 and see what happens
[12:07 pm] Mitch K: see that?
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: BIDU gave the signal at that 108-109 level but has pulled back $5 and the %K isnt quite hooking up yet so the swing trade long call is a little premature.
[12:10 pm] Mitch K: what you will learn to do over your career of investing or trading, is to what extent you are willing to take risk. if you want less risk, you wait for the indicators to clearly be pointing up, even if you wait until a stochastics cross from %K up through a %D, it reduces your risk but also reduces your reward. I personally don't like to wait for a cross of anything to confirm a signal
[12:12 pm] Mitch K: Normally, what happens is we don't have this much of a pullback but that was a strong rebound. But there is nothing "normal" about today's market
[12:12 pm] Mitch K: same thing with WYNN, we had the %K pointing up earlier, but it pulled back from the high of around $118.50 and now pulled back $8 so the %K returned back to pointing downward, although at a shallower angle.
[12:14 pm] Mitch K: Just remember this lesson as an ongoing usage of the principles I'm teaching here for future use, well after we get through this European situation, US political gridlock,
[12:16 pm] Mitch K: LVS, Las Vegas Sands. this is the company that owns 6-8 casino properties, including The Venetian-Palazzo where we had a 3 day seminar earlier this spring. This indicator, the stochastics are still slightly turning up, was pointing up earlier when LVS was around 38.50 and higher.
[12:16 pm] Mitch K: Same principle with any stock, a reversal in price will move the short term indicators, or oscillators to point up.
[12:19 pm] Kris : retesting low support
[12:19 pm] Kris : similar chart on AGQ daily as NFLX was last week.
[12:19 pm] Mitch K: Let's look at this same stock here but to your far left back in March
[12:19 pm] Mitch K: what we are going to do hopefully in January is give you fully dedicated swing trade ideas and this little short lesson is helpful for you to interpret those long or short alert signals. Just remember stocks have to "work themselves out" during the bottoming or topping process
[12:20 pm] Mitch K: see this here on the left let me point to the exact bar (candlestick, sorry) that is similar to today's move and it turned the indicators at least flat. There are really two of them but teh first one I will point out is similar to today
[12:21 pm] Mitch K: it's the black one with no body and all black wick
[12:22 pm] Mitch K: bars = candles in this case
[12:22 pm] Mitch K: count how many bars over to the right that gave the stronger, lower risk signal
[12:22 pm] Mitch K: that moved up the %K just slightly but the next one i will draw , well let me ask you which one really turned it up?
[12:23 pm] Mitch K: 3 to the right, that long green candle
[12:23 pm] Mitch K: nobody knows answer, ?[12:24 pm] Mitch K: see that 3-21-2011
[12:24 pm] Mitch K: so let's use a cross hair to identify this
[12:24 pm] Mitch K: two more over is a red down candle
[12:25 pm] Mitch K: ok, here is the next sell signal, which you might suspect will be a red candle, indicating a down day on a daily chart right
[12:26 pm] Mitch K: hey look at that, it's one candle to the right of the cross of %K from high to low down through the %D line using 8 7 6
[12:26 pm] Mitch K: that candle turned the indicators down, including the moving average of 5
[12:27 pm] Mitch K: 4-8-2011
[12:27 pm] Mitch K: that's the cross date, but the candle I'm talking about is the next day, one candle to the right
[12:28 pm] Mitch K: and you make the difference between the buy and sell signal, which is this distance between the two lines i will draw now
[12:29 pm] Mitch K: how long did that take? 2-3 weeks to make 15%
[12:29 pm] Mitch K: make sense
[12:30 pm] Mitch K: some of your money can be used on swings and if you are unfortunate enough o drop below a day trading account balance of $25, use this swing trading technique I've just outlined here
[12:32 pm] Mitch K: and as I've said here before to you, it is a trick to adjust your mindset between day trading and swing trading. it is a matter of lifestyle that determines which you will use. there is a place for both styles. It is very profitable to be good at both approaches
[12:34 pm] Mitch K: now what your homework assignment is to do today, yes today, preferably right after im done is to flip through many stocks, let's say 50 or more. using a daily chart and see how many buy and sells you can identify with this approach. Short selling applies as well, let me show you a short
[12:34 pm] Mitch K: that candle right there is your signal, a big one too, $2+ drop
[12:35 pm] Mitch K: your mindset should not be trying to get exact tops and bottoms. that's not how this works, in anything in life.
[12:36 pm] Mitch K: ok, you can wait until the stochastics is above or below the 80-20 line, but you will find many good trades using 75-25 reference line, which is the black horizontal lines
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: the winning rate % between using an 80-20% reference line or a 75-25% isn't that big doji[12:38 pm] Mitch K: accountant
[12:38 pm] Mitch K: try not to get hung up on too many details, just get this concept down and your account will be calling you up to talk about a tax strategy
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: we have stochastics turning up and we originally had a buy signal here
[12:41 pm] Mitch K: but when we broke below 125, as i mentioned over a week ago, that was your stop
[12:41 pm] Mitch K: ideally you want two indicators to be in your favor at the same time,
[12:42 pm] Mitch K: hope that helps you guys
[12:42 pm] Mitch K: you can use stochastics, moving average or there are many other indicators you can use in combination. i think two is enough
[12:44 pm] Mitch K: as well as LVS
[12:44 pm] Mitch K: new high of day with FMCN
[12:44 pm] Mitch K: WYNN almost high of day now
[12:45 pm] Mitch K: oh , i got another good tip for you, sort of follows up on what i talked about
[12:47 pm] Mitch K: now if you are day trading a stock that has the beginning of a move up on a daily chart? Just remember your odds are much, much better to be scalping on the long side for day trading. there is buying pressure in that stock overall, it says it in the daily chart.
[12:48 pm] Mitch K: it should make you feel uncomfortable to be shorting a long swing for very much time. Write it down on your yellow legal pad LONG SWING trade next to symbol so you dont forget which side to be on. Since most of us have attention deficit problems, including myself
[12:49 pm] Mitch K: good luck and you know your mission, which you already decided to accept
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: and now BIDU
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: new high of day with FMCN, WYNN & LVS
[12:57 pm] Brent : I just uploaded chat with Mitch's lesson to documents folder
[12:58 pm] Mitch K: remember that there is a natural tendency for these stocks posted as a swing trade, those 4, to return to "neutral" or what i always say with the analogy as a bungee cord when someone jumps off a bridge and it is stretched out, it wants to return to a natural position, esp when it is hyper stretched from a big person stretching it out
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: talk to you guys tomorrow
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a good night, see you tomorrow
[01:00 pm] Kris : good night everyone. great job today. see you all tomorrow morning.
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: later guys
[06:18 am] joeytsa : slight gap ups: SODA,NFLX
[06:19 am] joeytsa : TZA gapping up
[06:19 am] shark : that's the quintessential "tell' that this market has legs to the downside as we lose the leaders: AMZN, AAPL, CMG
[06:20 am] joeytsa : gap down: CAT,GOOD,GMCR
[06:20 am] shark : GMCR great short. huge PE
[06:20 am] shark : since NFLX "splat", I moved into GMCR short
[06:21 am] joeytsa : PCLN down 100 points since that quad-top
[06:21 am] joeytsa : shark: as swings, i like shorting high priced, high PE stocks....
[06:21 am] joeytsa : when markets turn, they fall out of favor quick usually
[06:22 am] doji : Gap ups MCP, YHOO, FST
[06:22 am] mikewd2 -: MCP discovered a large source of rare earth material
[06:23 am] doji : Should MCP be dragged by the market today?
[06:23 am] joeytsa : GS gapping down also
[06:24 am] doji : Gaps Down - HGSI, VHC, ARUN, MS
[06:33 am] shark : GMCR alert
[06:33 am] shark : GMCR short, nice
[06:35 am] mikewd2 -: SINA
[06:37 am] skydiver : RIMM jumping
[06:37 am] skydiver : up
[06:38 am] junior : LVS
[06:39 am] skydiver : RIMM still climbing
[06:43 am] shark : GMCR new lod[06:45 am] doji : RIMM S 22.14
[06:45 am] shark : AMAZING that GLD, SLV down today
[06:47 am] rusty : AGNC radar
[06:48 am] garyb : lvs 36.76
[06:48 am] rusty : NLY radar
[06:50 am] doji : 2nd half RIMM sort 22.4
[06:50 am] garyb : sold lvs 37.03...thanks Mitch! Quick scalp!
[06:53 am] skydiver : on RIMM
[06:54 am] anthonyb : new lows HON
[06:55 am] doji : All out RIMM, 0.28c
[06:55 am] shark : NFLX pooped out
[06:59 am] skydiver : Factory orders out in one minute report
[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: factory orders down 0.2%
[07:01 am] garyb : wow..........sweat on my head! lol..caught that big gap up on tna..$500 in 1 minute! lol[07:02 am] skydiver : Come on RIMM - keep coming down
[07:05 am] shark : nice drop RIMM, forgot to put on its parachute
[07:05 am] skydiver : I totally mis-handled but RIMM dropping saved me and in the green now
[07:05 am] skydiver : RIMM Slowly coming down - frosting on the cake
[07:06 am] doji : Me too Skydiver. I took time to move down
[07:06 am] skydiver : I was sweating it out for awhile - shorted it too early, but good now
[07:06 am] skydiver : Thanks Kris -- will do
[07:07 am] shark : nice skydiver
[07:07 am] skydiver : Shorted RIMM 21.83 - covered at 21.13
[07:08 am] doji : I had a good entry in RIMM but closed too early
[07:09 am] mikewd2 -: that was a great pick doji[07:09 am] shark : TNA at hod[07:09 am] skydiver : and I did just the opposite doji - came in too early and hung on and came out okay
[07:13 am] doji : Good idea!
[07:14 am] skydiver : Okay!
[07:15 am] mikewd2 -: nice call on KMP
[07:16 am] mikewd2 -: in 65.16
[07:17 am] doji : ARO hod[07:17 am] rusty : VHC hod[07:18 am] mikewd2 -: go TNA go
[07:19 am] doji : Watch out Mike, it could reverse very quickly on what Bernanke may say
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: stop in place with nice profit locked in
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: dang all my KMP didn't get filled, in only 1/4 position - bummer
[07:27 am] doji : and move my stop below my entry price
[07:27 am] doji : I'll take 1/4 ARO here out
[07:27 am] skydiver : beat me to it - yes here good spot
[07:28 am] rusty : AA radar for swingtrade[07:28 am] rusty : no rush but oversold on daily
[07:29 am] mikewd2 -: could be a good one rusty
[07:30 am] skydiver : Thanks Kris
[07:31 am] Mitch K: good swing trade idea Rusty
[07:31 am] skydiver : L WPRT 23.28
[07:32 am] skydiver : out 1/4 of WPRT 23.91
[07:33 am] doji : Stopped ARO last 1/2, good small profit
[07:33 am] skydiver : Moving stop up
[07:34 am] doji : Same as ARO
[07:34 am] skydiver : all out of WPRT
[07:35 am] skydiver : yes
[07:43 am] doji : SPY hod[07:46 am] lightning : OVTI alert
[07:50 am] mhaus : OIS
[07:53 am] scalpman : PCAR S 32.95
[07:54 am] doji : That was a long trade Kris
[07:54 am] scalpman : stop 33.15
[07:56 am] doji : As usual happen, it just moved up after you closed it!...lol[07:59 am] candelas : WYNN hod[08:00 am] mikewd2 -: Bernanke: satisfied what the economy is doing right now.
[08:01 am] doji : Yes.... that is what everyone was expecting.. what would it be if he was not satisfied?
[08:01 am] lightning : mike, in other words, he has a job.
[08:01 am] rusty : AA hod[08:01 am] scalpman : first target 32.62 PCAR S
[08:02 am] doji : Why not taking TZA Scalpman?
[08:02 am] mbear : AU
[08:02 am] scalpman : TNA S @ 28.39
[08:05 am] scalpman : Lower price doji better percentage
[08:07 am] scalpman : stopped....
[08:07 am] scalpman : TNA
[08:08 am] garyb : I guess Bernanke gave the market a little boost today
[08:08 am] scalpman : stopped PCAR...too strong...
[08:11 am] scalpman : L TNA from @ 28.80 out 3/5
[08:12 am] garyb : I just took a small LVS SWING trade position Mitch...don't worry..it's small! lol[08:12 am] topdogrex : nflx hod[08:13 am] rusty : VHC new hod[08:13 am] scalpman : OUt another 1/4 TNA L
[08:14 am] scalpman : All out TNA L
[08:15 am] scalpman : TNS S @ 29.16
[08:16 am] anthonyb : now out KMP long
[08:16 am] anthonyb : OK I just closed my long though.
[08:16 am] anthonyb : would any one consider a 3min fade short on KMP? I'm still holding 1/2 long froom 3min fade long. Thoughts? Brent?Kris?Mitch?
[08:16 am] rusty : Macau revenue report boosts WYNN, LVS
[08:17 am] anthonyb : +1.01 on half
[08:17 am] doji : SINA new hod[08:18 am] anthonyb : 1st 1/2 out at 65.92 2nd out at 66.35
[08:18 am] candelas : nice trade Anthony
[08:19 am] candelas : i bought wynn this am for swing
[08:19 am] neuronx : LVS turning for 3 min
[08:19 am] scalpman : Out 3/5 TNA S
[08:20 am] candelas : and bidu[08:20 am] candelas : i learned from the best
[08:20 am] Mitch K: good job candles
[08:20 am] scalpman : Last piece in the green...TNA S
[08:20 am] scalpman : OUt another 1/5
[08:20 am] scalpman : Trailing stop down
[08:21 am] scalpman : All out TNA S
[08:23 am] doji : What about NFLX Mitch, I has hold above the 107.63 so far
[08:25 am] anthonyb : ok guys, that's it for me. Like every other day, I'm leaving my desk having learned a little more. Thanks Brent, Kris, and Mitch. Have a great day everyone and see you tomorrow
[08:26 am] Mitch K: NFLX looks very weak still and hasn't shown much bounce. once NFLX went below that $125, it was look out below as i posted last week when NFLX was around 127-128
[08:27 am] Brent : have a good one anthonyb, see you tomorrow
[08:29 am] mikewd2 -: TNA still tracking the trend line
[08:37 am] mikewd2 -: so far for that comment!
[08:40 am] garyb : lol...watching TNA too Mike for bounce...starting to look good on 2 min
[08:42 am] doji : TNA L 28.28 [08:41 am] garyb : yeh doji...I see that on the 3min
[08:42 am] garyb : me too
[08:42 am] scalpman : All out TNA s
[08:43 am] doji : 3min is too slow sorry
[08:43 am] doji : I use 2min Gary; 2min is too slow for TNA, at least for me
[08:43 am] scalpman : TNA L @ 28.35
[08:44 am] garyb : I switch around
[08:44 am] garyb : I think we caught TNA in a good spot doji[08:44 am] rusty : BAC website having trouble again
[08:46 am] doji : Need to break 109.5 in the SPY first
[08:46 am] scalpman : TNA S out even
[08:47 am] scalpman : bounces have no gas...lunch time.
[08:50 am] neuronx : Mitch are you long on FMCN already or waiting for some drop
[08:51 am] doji : out 1/2 TNA
[08:51 am] garyb : already?
[08:52 am] garyb : did you get in Mike?
[08:52 am] mikewd2 -: TNA just starting to move?
[08:53 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, but at 28.80 at the trendline - and it broke it.
[08:54 am] doji : Move stop right below 28.5
[08:54 am] garyb : yes...me too
[08:55 am] garyb : 28.49
[08:59 am] doji : stopped in TNA
[09:01 am] qwert : kris you going long on fmcn on breakout over 19.10
[09:03 am] doji : Gary, we need to work in our STOP management
[09:04 am] garyb : lol I got stopped and immediately bought again lol[09:05 am] doji : Good job GAry[09:06 am] garyb : yeh doji.....I have a love hate relationship with stops
[09:07 am] lisas : sold into this move
[09:07 am] lisas : Wow, TNA, pays to stay away and keep hands off stop.
[09:07 am] mikewd2 -: out 29.80 TNA
[09:07 am] mikewd2 -: TNA is a money maker, lisas[09:09 am] doji : I always have I stop just in case in reverse very quickly!
[09:09 am] garyb : geez...if we keep going up today...might be a good sign for the market
[09:10 am] lisas : did pick up some of Mitch's swing recommendations though.
[09:12 am] doji : TZA L 57.03 [09:12 am] doji : stop just below of lod[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: i doubt that, I've done terrible except in TNA last few days
[09:15 am] mikewd2 -: TNA over 30
[09:16 am] doji : TNA today's winner; TZA yesterday's
[09:18 am] doji : now my revenge with TZA!
[09:18 am] doji : This time I had a very low stop
[09:19 am] garyb : I hate having to leave now...maybe I'll just put my stop at $29.50
[09:24 am] scalpman : Time to go....a good day...traded TNA mostly...see all at the close
[09:25 am] doji : Adding to TZA here
[09:29 am] doji : Average in TZA is 56.78
[09:29 am] doji : out hal TZA
[09:29 am] doji : RUn TZA run
[09:33 am] doji : All out TZA, Long TNA 29.35
[09:33 am] doji : I'll reverse TZA to TNA at TZA's sale signal
[09:34 am] doji : SPY at trend line
[09:37 am] doji : out 1/4 TNA
[09:39 am] junior : doji....you own TNA / TZA today!!!!
[09:41 am] Brent : nice job doji[09:41 am] doji : 6 out of 7 today's; the loser was just a small loss!
[09:42 am] doji : Thanks Brent, just following S/R, the potential money and the overall market's trend
[09:44 am] doji : I have realized that if I don't look at the money, I perform better.... lol[09:48 am] doji : Closed all TNA
[09:48 am] doji : I'll close TNA if it doesn't break the hod[09:49 am] doji : 7 out 0f 8
[09:49 am] doji : And that's all for me. Don't want to overtrade. I know others have done that before
[10:01 am] joeytsa : thanks Mitch...it does seem odd, but it's been kind of strange anyways
[10:05 am] Kris : qwert did you take that FMCN trade?
[10:05 am] qwert : yep thank you very much
[10:06 am] Kris : hit that 20.00 resistance and broke trendline[10:06 am] Kris : just following up
[10:07 am] qwert : kris do you know when we can get the pdf from webinar 6, wanted to study it this weekend
[10:08 am] Brent : I have it qwert, I'll email it out tonight
[10:09 am] qwert : thanks brent, i studied #5 this past weekend and it really helped
[10:10 am] Brent : there isn't one for #1 Dan
[10:10 am] dan : brent, I didn't get pdf for #1
[10:25 am] Brent : Just sent out that webinar 6 pdf to attendees. You should have it shortly
[10:26 am] joeytsa : be nice to compare it with my chicken-scratch notes :)
[10:27 am] joeytsa : i took 12 pages of notes during the web series
[10:28 am] joeytsa : actually got some great notes during the series..has helped big-time
[10:28 am] Mitch K: hey joey, you are a very smart guy, you get the main points, lol!
[10:30 am] lightning : SFLY alert [10:30 am] joeytsa : adding a few TSA ideas to the arsenal has opened up a whole new world
[10:32 am] mhaus : SFLY alert
[10:32 am] mikewd2 -: so on SFLY we looking for a breakout or a scalp
[10:33 am] sonorant : 3 minute fade?
[10:34 am] mhaus : got a scalp short. now looking for a scalp long
[10:34 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, could be that
[10:34 am] sonorant : I just looked at the daily and see why you said break out. Kris? Mitch? Brent?
[10:35 am] mikewd2 -: correct sonorant - seemed like a break to new lows
[10:35 am] shark : AM alert
[10:35 am] shark : AM and SLFY alert
[10:35 am] shark : SFLY
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: Brent: could you comment on how to play these?
[10:37 am] doji : Both are still dropping in the 3min charts
[10:38 am] shark : news on AM/SFLY - new iphone app allows users to create greeting cards on their iOS devices
[10:39 am] doji : So they don't need AM/SFLY?
[10:39 am] shark : less needed - AM/SFLY produce other products -video/books/mugs w/pics, etc[10:40 am] doji : look at the 3min charts
[10:40 am] shark : still tanking both AM/SFLY
[10:41 am] dan : SFLY support around 32
[10:41 am] doji : and the SPY is not helping both
[10:41 am] mikewd2 -: should have shorted them but wasn't sure how to play them.
[10:42 am] apple : no need for paper
[10:43 am] mikewd2 -: Apple will stamp it and mail it for you for $2.99
[10:45 am] doji : SFLY 34.26 3min fade
[10:45 am] mhaus : VPRT
[10:46 am] doji : 34.26 sorry
[10:47 am] doji : move stop above be
[10:47 am] doji : out 1/2 SFLY
[10:48 am] Brent : well played Doji[10:49 am] junior : thx for SFLY brent!!!!!!!
[10:50 am] shark : great observation Brent
[10:53 am] doji : 8 out of 9
[10:53 am] doji : all out SFLY at 34.91
[10:54 am] doji : Thanks Brent for SFLY
[10:55 am] mhaus : VRUS
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: SFLY was a nice 3min fade
[11:03 am] doji : NFLX lod....
[11:07 am] doji : at 59.12
[11:07 am] doji : I am going to take a small piece of TZA just in case the market close in a selloff
[11:10 am] doji : I have been looking at the SPY trendline and made my trades around it
[11:11 am] shark : AAPl alert
[11:11 am] shark : AAPL alert
[11:11 am] shark : you still got that TZA, doji?
[11:12 am] doji : closing another 1/4 here
[11:12 am] doji : only 3/4 Shark, close 1/4 in the spike
[11:12 am] rusty : AAPL radar
[11:13 am] doji : I'll leave my stop below 59.5 (previous support)
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: market expecting i5 and i4S
[11:14 am] mhaus : Apple announces Iphone 4S
[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: SFLY still moving
[11:15 am] lisas : moving stop on last of sfly[11:15 am] mhaus : no mention of Sprint Iphone yet
[11:16 am] doji : SPY testing trending line
[11:17 am] doji : out another 1/4 TZA
[11:17 am] mikewd2 -: nice job lisas - i was too quick on that one
[11:17 am] victor51 : SFLY worked. Thanks brent and Shark [11:17 am] mikewd2 -: that second bounce got me
[11:20 am] doji : SPY broke below trendline support
[11:20 am] mikewd2 -: SFLY is how the 3min fade is suppose to work
[11:20 am] mikewd2 -: starting to turn on the 3min
[11:21 am] doji : I'll trail my last 1/4 in TZA
[11:25 am] mikewd2 -: TNA L 28.07
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: hoping for 28.90
[11:27 am] doji : aggg missed TNA
[11:27 am] doji : all out TZA 60.58 (trail stop)...
[11:27 am] garyb : I'd like to see 29. and change myself
[11:27 am] rusty : OCR radar
[11:28 am] mikewd2 -: AGQ L 101.86
[11:29 am] garyb : nice I mean
[11:29 am] garyb : TNA looks like on 2 min
[11:30 am] doji : Yes Gary
[11:31 am] mikewd2 -: Apple details corporate deployment of ipads, iphones - this is death to RIMM
[11:33 am] rusty : high alert
[11:33 am] rusty : OCR lod[11:34 am] lisas : Thanks shark, rusty for appl, just hit my profit target
[11:34 am] mikewd2 -: out 1/2 TNA 28.90
[11:35 am] doji : TNA still moving up Mike in the 2min
[11:35 am] mikewd2 -: took 1/4 at 29
[11:36 am] mikewd2 -: nice one garyb[11:36 am] mikewd2 -: out 29.05
[11:37 am] joeytsa : nice ones mike and gary !!!
[11:37 am] mikewd2 -: bumped my entry shares also
[11:37 am] Mitch K: you get OCR long rusty
[11:38 am] mhaus : ITRI
[11:38 am] mikewd2 -: i was stopped Mitch, went in on first bounce
[11:39 am] garyb : no mike..I had some TNA before the lunch meeting....I left..came back there was big red number next to it...I waited till the right time...bought..average went way down...and ended up selling with some profit...got myself out of the loss
[11:39 am] mikewd2 -: OCR was first 3min fade that didn't pan out for me today
[11:40 am] mikewd2 -: nice
[11:40 am] mikewd2 -: while playing TNA, my AGQ profits evaporated.
[11:41 am] doji : AGQ to test 100.0
[11:41 am] garyb : ouch
[11:42 am] mikewd2 -: dang TNA almost back to entry price
[11:42 am] mikewd2 -: i plan on carrying my AGQ over anyway
[11:45 am] mikewd2 -: wonder what happened to iphone 5?
[11:46 am] doji : AGQ testing 100.0
[11:47 am] mikewd2 -: bounced off last time
[11:49 am] doji : Not sure this time Rusty
[11:49 am] rusty : MELA radar
[11:50 am] doji : sorry, Mike
[11:50 am] rusty : OCR lod[11:51 am] doji : Broke 100 AGQ
[11:52 am] doji : resistance at 96.75
[11:52 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[11:53 am] doji : as it did before it hit 96.75
[11:53 am] doji : I won't take it long Mike, it could open way lower tomorrow
[11:55 am] garyb : sounds good Mitch!
[11:55 am] shark : awesome, Mitch
[11:55 am] sonorant : I'm here Mitch!
[11:58 am] mikewd2 -: but you wouldn't enter the trade until tomorrow Mitch?
[11:58 am] sonorant : So this is from the perspective of a swing trade?
[11:59 am] doji : Thatt is too much Qwert. I'd used no more than 5%
[11:59 am] qwert : if you take the trade long on fmcn the stop should be under 15.74?
[12:00 pm] mhaus : AGQ had an approximate $73.9 million dollar inflow " that's a 11.2% increase week over week in outstanding units (from 5,800,014 to 6,450,014).
[12:00 pm] mikewd2 -: i think your right qwert need to be below 16
[12:00 pm] mikewd2 -: that sounds positive mhaus[12:01 pm] mhaus : yep
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: back in TNA 28.00
[12:01 pm] qwert : im not sure on the stop on fmcn that's why I'm asking
[12:02 pm] mikewd2 -: 28.05 sorry
[12:03 pm] mikewd2 -: there you go
[12:04 pm] frmendez67 : yes
[12:04 pm] hawaii : yes
[12:04 pm] joeytsa : yes
[12:04 pm] lisas : y
[12:04 pm] mikewd2 -: yes
[12:04 pm] qwert : yep
[12:04 pm] sonorant : good
[12:06 pm] doji : AGQ breaking down
[12:06 pm] qwert : okay
[12:07 pm] lisas : y
[12:07 pm] qwert : apple tanking
[12:08 pm] mikewd2 -: yes Mitch
[12:08 pm] qwert : yes sir
[12:09 pm] sonorant : That's useful in terms of seeing how it shifts as the price adjusts.
[12:11 pm] qwert : apple parabolic
[12:14 pm] mikewd2 -: thanks Mitch
[12:14 pm] mikewd2 -: trying again on TNA L 27.5
[12:15 pm] joeytsa : great lesson Mitch !!!
[12:16 pm] mikewd2 -: doji - this is also why i like AGQ its also hooking and has crossed on stochastics[12:16 pm] mikewd2 -: on the daily
[12:17 pm] qwert : mitch can you comment on stop for fmcn[12:18 pm] doji : In the Daily the stochastics is trending down Mike = AGQ
[12:19 pm] mikewd2 -: mine is set as per Mitch
[12:19 pm] mikewd2 -: on my 100 day its crossed and hooking up slightly
[12:19 pm] mikewd2 -: that would be great Mitch, look forward to it
[12:19 pm] sonorant : I think it depends on your stochastic settings -- very tweaky right as it is turning.
[12:22 pm] mikewd2 -: push TNA push
[12:23 pm] joeytsa : but I'm more conservative
[12:23 pm] joeytsa : my buy would have probably been the green bar that broke through the 5ma
[12:23 pm] joeytsa : yeah me !!!
[12:23 pm] junior : gooooooo tna[12:23 pm] mikewd2 -: for the cross over
[12:23 pm] mikewd2 -: two more Mitch
[12:23 pm] neuronx : 4
[12:24 pm] doji : yes %k crosses above %D right at the green candle
[12:24 pm] doji : yes 3 before the green one
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: out half 28.40
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: TNA still trading on the trend lines for buy and sells
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: yes the 3rd
[12:24 pm] qwert : y
[12:25 pm] kent : yes
[12:25 pm] mikewd2 -: yes, Mitch
[12:26 pm] junior : out some more TNA
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: out last half 28.95
[12:28 pm] dan : Mking, may I ask you a question?
[12:28 pm] doji : Mike now AGQ stochastics in the daily is pointing up
[12:28 pm] junior : nice spike
[12:28 pm] junior : out all tna[12:28 pm] mikewd2 -: broke the trend line on this run
[12:29 pm] doji : Are taking it long as swing Mike?
[12:29 pm] doji : I am looking at the daily YTD Mike
[12:29 pm] kent : yes
[12:29 pm] lisas : y
[12:29 pm] mikewd2 -: and added to it at 97.5
[12:29 pm] mikewd2 -: are you looking at the 100day?
[12:29 pm] mikewd2 -: on the second little pullback
[12:29 pm] mikewd2 -: yes
[12:29 pm] qwert : y
[12:30 pm] doji : Good job Mike, hope the market don't get crazy tomorrow
[12:30 pm] mikewd2 -: that's nice profit Mitch
[12:30 pm] sonorant : it's good money
[12:31 pm] mikewd2 -: so Mitch, if your day trade is 20K per trade, how much do you recommend on each swing?
[12:32 pm] lightning : watching OVTI for possible short
[12:33 pm] doji : I'll take AGQ in a pull back, preferably above 100
[12:33 pm] mikewd2 -: TNA running nicely
[12:35 pm] doji : But the drop is below the 80% in the stochastcis Mitch
[12:35 pm] mhaus : Mitch, does this go for ETFs too or are ETFs different??
[12:37 pm] doji : NFLX - daily stochastics have been pointing up since the stock hit its low at 107.63
[12:37 pm] mhaus : 75-25 is true for any stocks, ETFs or not
[12:37 pm] storage : Mitch on the next top same candle?
[12:38 pm] doji : NFLX Mitch daily stochastics[12:38 pm] lisas : with this push up, on my platform, bidu is turning up
[12:38 pm] mikewd2 -: garyb, did you catch that nice ride on TNA?
[12:39 pm] mhaus : 3 green bars
[12:39 pm] mhaus : Lisas, BIDU showed a buy at 105.47
[12:39 pm] mikewd2 -: out AGQ 102.00 - still have another half
[12:40 pm] doji : I thought you were taking AGQ home Miki
[12:40 pm] lisas : I was looking at daily. Good intraday scalp for sure
[12:40 pm] lisas : mhause, are you looking at intraday or daily?
[12:40 pm] mhaus : 3 min
[12:40 pm] mhaus : switching to daily
[12:40 pm] mhaus : that too is showing the 3rd bar
[12:40 pm] mikewd2 -: i sold off the 101.86 - for min gain and averaged down to 97.50
[12:41 pm] doji : Yes at 127
[12:41 pm] lisas : I picked up small swing position earlier, was hoping to see a strong finish
[12:41 pm] lisas : or might close before end of day
[12:41 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah that turn up cost me a couple k
[12:42 pm] doji : stochastics and volume?
[12:42 pm] mikewd2 -: and stochastics are down
[12:42 pm] mikewd2 -: it does Mitch, thanks for your help
[12:42 pm] mikewd2 -: now i wonder why i went in????[12:42 pm] neuronx : but 5 MA was not pointing up
[12:42 pm] topdogrex : thanks mitch[12:43 pm] hawaii : thanks Mitch
[12:43 pm] lisas : shark, that's impressive
[12:43 pm] mikewd2 -: TNA back over 30
[12:43 pm] neuronx : tks[12:44 pm] lisas : Big help Mitch, sometimes I wondered why you picked your swings in newsletter. Also having same chart setting from webinar helps
[12:44 pm] lisas : of course, that was the one swing I didn't buy, lol[12:44 pm] lisas : oh good, did get lvds[12:44 pm] mikewd2 -: its all of us jumping on those swings!!! lol[12:45 pm] sonorant : thanks Mitch -- good to understand what you are looking at
[12:47 pm] mhaus : SFLY is back in 40s
[12:49 pm] lisas : Thanks Mitch
[12:49 pm] rusty : thanks Mitch
[12:50 pm] neuronx : A lot of stuff that we know bun not follow it & That all becomes from experience right Mitch
[12:50 pm] qwert : thanks mitch[12:51 pm] garyb : Yeh Mike.....I was in that
[12:51 pm] mikewd2 -: what a bounce back in TNA
[12:52 pm] garyb : I got out...then bought in again and took another ride with a smaller position
[12:52 pm] mikewd2 -: AGQ working out nice also
[12:52 pm] mikewd2 -: i got out a bit early
[12:53 pm] garyb : Mitch could you output this conversation in a PDF so we can download and learn
[12:53 pm] mikewd2 -: i sold off my 101.86 stock, and still hold 97.50 entry
[12:53 pm] mikewd2 -: not sure why it sold off during Mitch's talk but glad it did opportunity!!!
[12:54 pm] garyb : Thank you!
[12:54 pm] mhaus : Garyb, you can right click and select Copy All Chat
[12:54 pm] Mitch K: ok, let me try that right now
[12:55 pm] garyb : Mine is all greyed out
[12:55 pm] Mitch K: right click in the gray vertical bar to copy guys and save in Wordpad or Microsoft word.
[12:56 pm] candelas : hod WYNN LVS
[12:57 pm] lisas : :)
[12:58 pm] lisas : There was a EU report
[12:58 pm] shark : anyone know what's moving the market?
[12:58 pm] terry : eu is looking better
[12:59 pm] candelas : have a great night Mitch,Kris,Brent,Traders[01:00 pm] garyb : Thank you Mitch!
[01:00 pm] lisas : Thanks Mitch, Brent, Kris and all!
[01:01 pm] bullwind : thanks Mitch made money today
[01:02 pm] doji : My best ever day Mitch... I am holding some longs in addition to my 9 winers today!
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: bull, what is your favorite style or technique for trading?
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: nice bullwind,
[01:03 pm] bullwind : today it was the reversals that worked for me
[01:03 pm] doji : Fo me too bullwind[01:03 pm] garyb : Made money today too.....I'm back baby!
[01:03 pm] Mitch K: wow nice doji[01:04 pm] bullwind : both Mitch
[01:04 pm] bullwind : doji what are you holding long/
[01:04 pm] doji : LVS and FMCN bullwind[01:04 pm] Mitch K: ok nice bull, you primarily a day trading or both swing and day?
[01:05 pm] bullwind : yes made money on both today but not long anything to day
[01:05 pm] doji : LVS at 37.12
[01:05 pm] doji : they are only 10% of my total account as they are swings
[01:05 pm] garyb : I have LVS as well....and TNA
[01:06 pm] doji : and FMCN at 19.1
[01:07 pm] bullwind : my best trade was F all the way from 9.17
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