Chat Highlights From 09/29/2011

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[06:25 am] Mitch K: Jobless claims dropped a lot more than expected by 37,000 with 3,000 as expectation. It's now under 400,000 and is sort of a psychological level, at least for Obama, lol[06:28 am] Mitch K: we should get good movement both ways today but I'm a little more oriented toward the short side
[06:34 am] Mitch K: probably some negative news out of NFLX, could be dangerous for a long scalp,
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching WYNN for bottom
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching for bottom in SINA for long
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching EW for bottom, taking time, big drops
[06:39 am] Mitch K: DVA bottom soon
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching FMCN for bottom,
[06:42 am] Mitch K: Life insurance companies up strong: HIG, LNC, PRU, MET
[06:43 am] Mitch K: monitoring BIDU for bottom
[06:43 am] Mitch K: no buy signals yet in any of these dumpers but should give bounces at some point, let them stop dropping
[06:44 am] Mitch K: monitor LVS along with WYNN, both casino-hotel
[06:44 am] Mitch K: SINA looks bouncy
[06:45 am] Mitch K: short term signals still not pointing up on SINA,
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching WNR
[06:47 am] Mitch K: looking for 124 area on NFLX
[06:50 am] Mitch K: consider closing most of FMCN long soon
[06:50 am] Mitch K: looking for 120.50 for BIDU
[06:51 am] Mitch K: NFLX consolidating, looking for more upside if continues going sideways
[06:53 am] Mitch K: EW looks like trending type of bounce,bounce could last longer
[06:53 am] Mitch K: when you see those big drops like the $8 that EW dropped, they are better candidates for uptrending pattern that last longer on bounce
[06:55 am] Mitch K: the NFLX swing trade long should be stopped, breaking down below that 125 area
[06:55 am] Mitch K: watching YOKU
[06:56 am] Mitch K: AAPL setting up for long
[07:00 am] Mitch K: YOKU trying to bounce
[07:01 am] Mitch K: casinos still not bouncing yet: WYNN LVS
[07:04 am] Mitch K: got early sell signal on EW
[07:05 am] Mitch K: the trading action on EW is strong in down market for many stocks. seeing a lot of large multi-point drops this morning yet not reflecting in SP500 on widespread basis.
[07:06 am] Mitch K: the chart pattern on EW is if it goes sideways with slight pullback (= consolidation), can easily breakout upward to higher highs
[07:07 am] Mitch K: we should be getting close for a bounce with WYNN
[07:11 am] Mitch K: i see more downside on IVN
[07:12 am] Mitch K: the comment on IVN is overall, best to look for small bounce first and if it fails, turns over, would be worth a small short
[07:17 am] Mitch K: no sign of bounce in DVA yet, probably won't be strong if there is a bounce
[07:18 am] Mitch K: last post was relating to DVA
[07:18 am] Mitch K: Piper Jaffray believes uncertainties from the grand jury investigation in Colorado and Medicare funding concerns
[07:19 am] Mitch K: grand jury investigation is associated with criminal charges, not civil
[07:25 am] Mitch K: CNP spiking
[07:35 am] Mitch K: consider covering short on CNP if anyone went after that
[07:35 am] Mitch K: DVA on left,. came down from 69 area to under 60 on grand jury investigation, probably related to Medicare billing
[07:38 am] Mitch K: my guess is that DVA won't be the normal sharp correction on the top of this bounce. a lot of brokerage firms defending the stock reiterating a buy on weakness kind of recommendation on DVA
[07:39 am] Mitch K: that red line extended there is what i would expect from this type of news on DVA, whereas most stocks that have a bounce you guys see me here day in and day out correct on top of the bounce but this came down from 69+ to 59 area
[07:40 am] Mitch K: now what you do with a chart on DVA is switch to a longer time interval, don't stare at 1 min, but bring up 2 or 3 min if you have the room to do that
[07:43 am] Mitch K: anyone go after that short in IVN? lower lows now. look at the daily chart, tells me more downside ahead
[07:46 am] Mitch K: there is the sp500 etf at low of day, finally caught up with our other stocks we were scanning
[07:48 am] Mitch K: looking for bottom in SPY for the TNA long trade
[07:49 am] Mitch K: looks like 115 is new support level for NFLX; this latest change to split NFLX billing into two companies really bad idea, people will get confused when they see their bill and get agitated, spouse will say cancel, could drop 25% of their subscribers
[07:50 am] Mitch K: watching CRR
[07:52 am] Mitch K: idcc bouncing
[08:06 am] Mitch K: this chart with BIDU is more normal, bounce then a shortable correction
[08:06 am] Mitch K: too late to short at this price though with BIDU
[08:07 am] Mitch K: another stock you want to watch consistently is MCP, has a lot of big swings, both ways
[08:11 am] Mitch K: watch CTRP for short on top of this bounce
[08:15 am] Mitch K: monitor IVN for short, no hurry
[08:15 am] Mitch K: take your time on IVN, could be a while
[08:21 am] Mitch K: you guys see how i switch back and forth from 1 to 2 min chart? stare mostly at the 2 min, not 1 min until you execute trade
[08:25 am] Mitch K: the CTRP short idea i mentioned, not a great idea with sideways direction, usually breaks out to the upside
[08:26 am] Mitch K: you guys following the stocks discussed this morning? You always want to continue to monitor what is happening and the way to best monitor a lot of stocks is using a longer interval time
[08:27 am] Mitch K: remember that's what you get paid for, to keep scanning previous stocks you saw that were going one direction in a substantial way (big uptrend or downtrend) and monitor for that reversal. Look at WYNN now
[08:28 am] Mitch K: or LVS, IVN, even BIDU had a $7 bounce
[08:42 am] Mitch K: monitoring SINA
[08:45 am] Mitch K: i wanted to say something to you about trading. Unfortunately, it rarely seems to come easy for people to get to a proficient level. There always a price to pay. The cheapest price to pay is taking more time to study and practice in a virtual trading platform without your real money.
[08:48 am] Mitch K: I see the newer traders come into trading or investing with unreasonable expectations. With unrealistic goals that they feel compelled to accomplish. You have to boil this down to an education process that takes time as well as managing your goals.
[08:50 am] Mitch K: I think people can come into trading and do well without losing a lot of money but it is usually from an approach of a student's heart, not a mindset that someone is brave and ready to face the dragons.
[08:53 am] Mitch K: trvlntrder, i think the buy on dips of intrraday trending stocks are easier, higher frequency and lower profit per trades. works good on certain days. but the largest profit potential are these reversals where you can get 2 trades or sometimes 3 on the same stock, short and then long, for example.
[08:55 am] Mitch K: i like the reversals because the largest profit potential is there. but i see your point trv[08:59 am] Mitch K: SINA turning over
[09:10 am] Mitch K: AMSC strong trending stock today. Daily chart supports idea of more upside to this stock
[09:10 am] Mitch K: trvlntrdr, this is the kind of stock pattern you were talking about, right?
[09:12 am] Mitch K: look at the daily chart on AMSC,
[09:17 am] Mitch K: when i see something like AMSC daily chart, i see neutral is around $5
[09:27 am] Mitch K: that's the buy on the dip trending chart on AMSC, short term target would be somewhere around $5, might make it today.
[09:29 am] Mitch K: AMSC came across my scanner around $4.10 this morning but forgot about it until it hit it again. If AMSC continues upward today, I would NOT hold it overnight and the $5 neutral price becomes lower. So bottom line is you sell out of it. Just because it is trending up is no guarantee it continues on all day, just stating the obvious
[09:31 am] Mitch K: could get a bounce in SPRD, AMSC more interesting to focus on though
[09:37 am] Mitch K: watching for potential bottom in AMSC again. each time this happens, the higher the risk so you don't go heavier, you go lighter in position size as it goes up
[09:41 am] Mitch K: just because there is a trend line there, you still need to get a signal it is not an automatic buy on that trend line, you need confirmation
[10:40 am] Mitch K: look for bounce in indexes
[10:40 am] Mitch K: should get a bounce
[10:41 am] Mitch K: watching GS for potential bounce
[10:42 am] Mitch K: monitoring APOL
[10:45 am] Mitch K: increasing volume, parabolic drop
[10:46 am] Mitch K: TNA bouncing
[10:57 am] Mitch K: anyone long TNA? post entry
[10:57 am] Mitch K: good entry prices. why don't you guys tell me when you should sell TNA?
[11:02 am] Mitch K: if you microtrade within a trend, make sure you know where you are
[11:33 am] Mitch K: possible short scalp in EDU soon
[11:46 am] Mitch K: EDU too strong for short
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: going to Kris' wedding now. Try not to cry all at once
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: later guys
[05:58 am] joeytsa : Final GDP price index q/q up to 2.5% from 2.4, at 7amPST the pending home sales # comes in..market might get touchy around then
[06:10 am] mikewd2 -: added to my AGQ position 109.75 premarket
[06:15 am] joeytsa : hey jr....every time my technical's set up, the stock does the reverse
[06:15 am] joeytsa : HGIC up huge on a buyout
[06:16 am] doji : Me to Joey.... this market is just nuts!
[06:17 am] garyb : I know Joey........I was actually looking forward to the marketing backing off a bit for better longs
[06:19 am] mikewd2 -: out 113.65 nice profit to start the day
[06:20 am] joeytsa : gap up AGQ,HGIC,SINA,NFLX,CRZO,JOYG...lots of others
[06:21 am] joeytsa : gap down, INSU,FAZ
[06:22 am] mikewd2 -: still lots of rumors that Amazon going to buy NFLX streaming
[06:22 am] mikewd2 -: wish it would move the stock
[06:23 am] garyb : are you in NFLX now Mike?
[06:23 am] joeytsa : GOLD,BRCM,TNA gapping up too
[06:23 am] mikewd2 -: still have 300 shares, almost even though - dumped 500 yesterday for small profit
[06:23 am] topdogrex : I am in NFLX
[06:24 am] joeytsa : decent gary, 2-1
[06:24 am] mikewd2 -: i came back after market couldn't believe the sell off
[06:24 am] mikewd2 -: u guys did good on TZA yesterday, yes?
[06:24 am] shark : you short or long, NFLX topdog?
[06:25 am] garyb : 2 wins Joey?
[06:25 am] garyb : Yeh...I was looking for a bounce in TNA as well...got clobbered!
[06:25 am] joeytsa : Bush: no child left behind...
[06:25 am] joeytsa : profit taking?
[06:25 am] joeytsa : yeah, 1 dumb loss..working on something
[06:25 am] mikewd2 -: probably, fully expected it to continue down today
[06:25 am] sonorant : no got slaughtered on TNA, TZA -- should have been easy but I mangled it. And good morning all
[06:26 am] joeytsa : Obama: no child left a dime
[06:26 am] shark : and the politicians want to take all the credit for it
[06:26 am] shark : they gave the dimes to help the failing adults and to save them from themselves
[06:28 am] mikewd2 -: let's have a good day and make Kris proud.
[06:28 am] shark : Kris and Brent off today?
[06:28 am] sonorant : well I have reconfigured my miniature screen set up to accommodate more charts -- have left chart 'stubs' that can be opened up quickly but sit there as reminders of what I am supposed to be looking at. We shall see if it helps or just confuses me more!! lol[06:29 am] doji : That is a positive attitude... and please share your ideas and entry price right after you trade; if you post it later then it will be too late
[06:29 am] mikewd2 -: Kris gone until Monday - getting hitched
[06:29 am] sonorant : doji, I hope you aren't talking to me -- I am just following everyone else! still worse than clueless.
[06:30 am] shark : OH, this is the big weekend. Wow!
[06:31 am] joeytsa : NFLX dropping fast
[06:32 am] doji : SINA dropping
[06:32 am] joeytsa : closed gap already
[06:32 am] scalpman : AGQ S 111.62
[06:33 am] joeytsa : FOSL watch
[06:33 am] mikewd2 -: AGQ l 111.10
[06:33 am] scalpman : Out 1/2
[06:34 am] joeytsa : ps: German parliament approves changes to EFSF
[06:35 am] scalpman : All out AGQ quickie
[06:36 am] doji : MCP moving
[06:36 am] joeytsa : SINA gap close and lower
[06:37 am] storage : sina s82.75 c81
[06:38 am] doji : SINA support at 78, then 76.5
[06:39 am] joeytsa : SINA might be setting up a 3mf
[06:41 am] doji : SINA and NFLX tanking
[06:42 am] joeytsa : out NFLX, +7...smaller lot
[06:43 am] doji : SINA broke previous support at 76.5
[06:44 am] doji : SINA next support at 74.5
[06:44 am] skydiver : L NFLX 121.79
[06:44 am] trvlntrdr : I bought fmcn[06:48 am] joeytsa : AAPL selling off
[06:48 am] joeytsa : CLF trying to close gap
[06:49 am] garyb : TNA moving up
[06:49 am] joeytsa : SINA setting up
[06:50 am] joeytsa : both as MKscalp, 3mf
[06:50 am] joeytsa : scratch that idea for now
[06:50 am] joeytsa : ugly move down though
[06:50 am] mikewd2 -: jumped the gun a bit SINA l 76.02
[06:51 am] doji : Stopped in my SINA long... aggg[06:51 am] trvlntrdr : spy is up, sina negative???
[06:52 am] doji : Yes, and it is still dropping
[06:52 am] mikewd2 -: see no news on SINA
[06:52 am] shark : there goes NFLX
[06:52 am] tennisball : Mitch, short term -meaning 0ne minute chart ?
[06:52 am] trvlntrdr : maybe there will be---
[06:54 am] joeytsa : gap up fades worked great today
[06:54 am] joeytsa : thanks Mitch..nice V pattern huh
[06:55 am] joeytsa : AAPl trying to close gap
[06:56 am] doji : Mike still in SINA?
[06:56 am] observer : SLW l 31.08
[06:57 am] joeytsa : good call on that bounce mitch..almost 80cents
[06:57 am] joeytsa : re: Mitch's DVA call..bounced up to around the 5ma then down to a lower low...might keep trending down
[06:57 am] skydiver : Aapl L 398.04
[06:58 am] garyb : wow YOKU is really diving
[06:58 am] joeytsa : a little consolidation in SINA..let's see
[06:58 am] lisas : pending home sale in 2 minutes
[06:58 am] shark : clearly, NFLX on its way to 100
[06:58 am] shark : die, NFLX, die
[06:59 am] mikewd2 -: sounds like maybe the 60's
[07:00 am] joeytsa : CLF gap close and lower
[07:00 am] skydiver : Go appl[07:01 am] doji : Shark are you NFLX short?
[07:01 am] shailan : sorry to ask, but Kris or Brent not in the room today?
[07:02 am] joeytsa : TZA nice bounce
[07:02 am] shailan : ok ty[07:02 am] shark : Kris getting married
[07:02 am] shark : sINA down
[07:04 am] cowboyh : We have to run out of sellers before long
[07:04 am] shark : not on NFLX
[07:05 am] cowboyh : Wynn getting increased volume and the banana curve
[07:05 am] mikewd2 -: SINA starting to turn up
[07:06 am] guitarzan1 -: c'mon buyers!! gooooooo :)
[07:06 am] joeytsa : banks having a good day...might be the cause of the flyers selling off
[07:07 am] qwert : wynn going parabolic
[07:09 am] observer : stopped SLW
[07:10 am] doji : Entered too early
[07:10 am] doji : Mike, are you still in SINA? I stopped with a loss of $400....
[07:10 am] joeytsa : monitor any TZA positions
[07:10 am] scalpman : Stopped on YOKU...Longs today are not powerful.
[07:11 am] scalpman : Wynn...I got 1% on 1/2 and then stopped in green
[07:12 am] garyb : looks good on 2 min
[07:12 am] garyb : watching TNA
[07:12 am] mikewd2 -: news on NFLX, was split of streaming could put more pressure on DVD rentals. duh
[07:17 am] shark : looks like SPY turning more down
[07:18 am] anthonyb : KMB holding up well
[07:18 am] doji : SINA consolidating but could continue dropping is SPY don't turn up
[07:18 am] mikewd2 -: Netflix breaks support at $119 area, next major support at $107 area
[07:19 am] doji : Anyone shorting NFLX?
[07:19 am] joeytsa : yes anthony, been watching it
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: i'm done playing NFLX - lost too much money
[07:19 am] shark : go with the trend, mikewd2
[07:19 am] shark : me,me,me,me,me,me,me[07:20 am] doji : You are not alone Mike, my lost was with SINA
[07:20 am] garyb : me too Mike...I think I'll sit today out...real bad day today..
[07:20 am] mbear : made 2 pts shorting NFLX after it broke 125...should have been more greedy
[07:20 am] shark : help us take NFLX down to 60
[07:20 am] shark : the trend is your friend, until the end
[07:21 am] shark : catching those bounces is tough when they are in a downtrend
[07:21 am] skydiver : Glad I got in and out of NFLX and Aapl fast today. In the green
[07:22 am] mikewd2 -: amazing down up 200 plus and i've had my biggest lost in the room since joining.
[07:23 am] lightning : lots of day left Mike. Just look for the next good setup
[07:23 am] mhaus : AGQ announced a 2:1 split effective 10/13
[07:23 am] mikewd2 -: me too! haha[07:23 am] skydiver : crazy day
[07:23 am] skydiver : Sorry Mike
[07:23 am] skydiver : Yes Mike - hang in there - great days ahead
[07:24 am] lisas : Gary, I'm sim today because of yesterday, messed up entries, platform froze, learning new set ups. Storm last night, couldn't start trading computer afterwards, but it did start this morning strangely. Going to regroup and sim trade rest of week
[07:24 am] shark : watch NFLX for lower lows...
[07:26 am] joeytsa : GMCR following the the 5ma down
[07:26 am] joeytsa : they hate coffee :)
[07:26 am] mikewd2 -: wow GMCR freefall[07:27 am] mikewd2 -: SINA heads lower with group, next support is at $73.90, then at $72.60
[07:28 am] anthonyb : Lisa, I will most likely SIM trade for the month of October and go live Nov. 1st. I will have 6 months of daytrading practice by then. I want to get this right. I still swing trade with real money. But I have a good handle on that
[07:28 am] joeytsa : DVA with a little green showing
[07:28 am] joeytsa : GS turned over
[07:28 am] qwert : wynn at august lows
[07:28 am] shark : die, NFLX, die!!!!
[07:29 am] anthonyb : stopped out last 1/2 of KMB. No more longs left for me
[07:29 am] joeytsa : might lead things lower more
[07:29 am] mikewd2 -: were going to hit a bottom! somewhere sometime
[07:29 am] skydiver : shorted CNP 20.28
[07:30 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 OSK short
[07:31 am] anthonyb : AMD approaching lod[07:31 am] joeytsa : out DVA
[07:32 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 SD short
[07:32 am] guitarzan1 -: thoughts on SINA after this little flag pattern? Is this likely a continuation pattern?
[07:32 am] joeytsa : IDCC lod[07:32 am] joeytsa : left it way early, just don't trust the overall mood
[07:33 am] guitarzan1 -: thx joey
[07:33 am] joeytsa : guitar..guess would be more down, but just a guess, unless the market finds a bottom
[07:33 am] ronfrac : TNA trying to bottom
[07:34 am] doji : S CNP at 20.21 out 19.88, Thanks Mitch
[07:34 am] lisas : out half cnp[07:34 am] ronfrac : STOC 115 on DJX
[07:34 am] shark : AAPL -bouncing a bit. possible indicator of market direction
[07:35 am] anthonyb : like the looks of CNP. was too busy to see that one
[07:35 am] trvlntrdr : ew breaking out
[07:36 am] candelas : i still have piece of DVa[07:36 am] joeytsa : GMCR turned up
[07:36 am] joeytsa : i left a nice chunk on DVA..be better next time
[07:36 am] mikewd2 -: missed TNA
[07:36 am] skydiver : covered CNP 19.94
[07:36 am] skydiver : Thanks Mitch!
[07:36 am] sonorant : I'm having terrible computer problems -- can't load new charts. Existing charts are fine. May have to exit out and reload Ninja T., but I'm in NFLX short and hate to exit
[07:36 am] trvlntrdr : I did, covered at 2% !!
[07:36 am] trvlntrdr : thanks mitch[07:37 am] anthonyb : you are not alone Sonorant
[07:37 am] joeytsa : set a stop if you have to sonorant
[07:37 am] truck : LVS
[07:38 am] lightning : Guitar, isn't the "book" on flags that after consolidation they resume their previous trend?
[07:39 am] guitarzan1 -: yes... lightning.... and i'm watching that closely cuz i'm long
[07:40 am] doji : SINA dropping again
[07:40 am] duckfan : bidu, big drop
[07:40 am] shark : NFLX new down stroke
[07:41 am] joeytsa : yes Mitch, that 2min is really helping calm things down
[07:41 am] running : target for DVA ?
[07:43 am] joeytsa : hey doji: about yesterdays TZA trade....
[07:44 am] duckfan : TNA nearing gap close
[07:44 am] joeytsa : Doji: you were upset that you missed that TZA trade, but 2 good things...you made the right call not only by seeing the chart, but by the momentum....
[07:44 am] running : I dud small profit and posit
[07:44 am] trvlntrdr : ew not much of a breakout---:(
[07:45 am] joeytsa : if you have a hard time getting in...lots of times it means you made the right call
[07:45 am] mikewd2 -: SINA continues to drop
[07:46 am] scalpman : IVN S @ 14.52
[07:46 am] shark : AAPL running
[07:46 am] shark : more AAPL new lod[07:47 am] anthonyb : out 1/2 AMP short
[07:47 am] Mitch K: glad you like the 2 min joey
[07:47 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 IVN S
[07:47 am] scalpman : Stopped in the green IVN S
[07:47 am] shark : looks like DIA & SPY want to fill the gap
[07:48 am] anthonyb : he's not the only one why anyone would use it. Now I know. I never
[07:49 am] anthonyb : out another 1/4 OSK short
[07:49 am] anthonyb : Whoops. Now I know why people use it
[07:49 am] aussie123 : Guys ...It seems the vxx is just too strong this morning
[07:49 am] doji : Thanks Joey, I appreciate the support. I just counterbalanced my loss in SINA long with my short in CNP, but still $200 in red
[07:49 am] doji : We have a long way to go to erase the loss
[07:49 am] go4it : IVN thx Mitch
[07:50 am] shark : I concur, Mitch - NFLX
[07:51 am] scalpman : Out another 1/4 IVN S
[07:52 am] mikewd2 -: SINA heading up
[07:52 am] Mitch K: good one on IVN, big profit on $14 stock
[07:52 am] qwert : yeah thanks for ivn mitch[07:52 am] ronfrac : SPY 1 min turning up
[07:53 am] mikewd2 -: or maybe another head fake
[07:55 am] mikewd2 -: The U.S. Justice Department is investigating accounting irregularities at Chinese companies including SINA
[07:55 am] mikewd2 -: there's the reason.
[07:56 am] mikewd2 -: just came across flyonthewall - i think your right though shark
[07:56 am] scalpman : All out IVN...
[07:56 am] shark : that's old news SINA, mikewd2
[07:56 am] sonorant : good scouting mike
[07:57 am] mikewd2 -: also YOKU and BIDU
[07:57 am] scalpman : Tight stop on IDCC...
[07:58 am] ronfrac : what about TNA in here
[07:58 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 @ 51.09 (in at 50.80)
[07:59 am] ronfrac : STOC on SPY just rockets up
[07:59 am] skydiver : STEC take over chatter
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: long TNA 35.25
[08:01 am] scalpman : Out another 1/4 IDCC
[08:03 am] scalpman : TRailing up last 1/4 IDCC
[08:03 am] skydiver : argh - missed GMCR - forgot to put my alert in
[08:04 am] anthonyb : ok gang, I'm off to work. Hope everyone has an awesome day. Wish I could stay. But all these SIM dollars won't pay the grocery bill. Thanks MITCH. I had a good time
[08:04 am] ronfrac : Mitch: Does this rally look real. Poss. tgt. In TNA 35.32
[08:04 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 TNA
[08:04 am] scalpman : TNA vWAP @ 36.16
[08:04 am] shark : yeah, GMCR nice on that bounce skydiver
[08:07 am] scalpman : 1/3 retrace on SPY see if it can hold
[08:07 am] shark : SINA down, down, down
[08:08 am] scalpman : All out TNA and IDCC
[08:15 am] skydiver : Got to go -- catch you all later! Good trading!!
[08:16 am] shark : awesome skydiver. have a good one
[08:17 am] mikewd2 -: The House of Representatives unanimously approved a bill to keep the federal government running until Tuesday.
[08:23 am] joeytsa : Mitch: do you ever find yourself late on a trade using the 2min as opposed to the 1min...or do you now mind?
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: i thought the training told us to buy on the 1min and sell off the 3min or 2min.
[08:25 am] lisas : lvs doing well for me
[08:25 am] ronfrac : mcp short ?
[08:26 am] mikewd2 -: WYNN was a good call, but forgot to check back on it
[08:27 am] jsn13 : how about SINA?
[08:28 am] mikewd2 -: SINA plunges on DOJ probe report, next support at $67.64, then at $65.99
[08:29 am] mikewd2 -: couple minutes a go news
[08:29 am] scalpman : yoku new lod[08:33 am] joeytsa : mike: i did that on DVA earlier
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: seems you have to take profits a bit quicker today on longs - missed selling TNA twice
[08:33 am] trvlntrdr : news is always after the inside trading
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: Best Buy (BBY) followed in the footsteps of Office Depot (ODP) and Staples (SPLS) by slashing the prices of Research in Motion's (RIMM) PlayBook tablet
[08:36 am] joeytsa : mike, remember to take the news into context of your trade
[08:36 am] lisas : Moving stop on last quarter lvs to 41.64
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: i'm rolling now first positive trade since preopen out TNA 35.85
[08:37 am] joeytsa : RRC going for prev close
[08:38 am] candelas : sina coming up on vwap[08:38 am] joeytsa : i wish i had vwap[08:39 am] mikewd2 -: silver rallying a bit
[08:40 am] joeytsa : lightspeed, streetsmart edge
[08:40 am] shark : NFLX at lod[08:40 am] sonorant : joey, which platform are you on? why don't you have VWAP?
[08:41 am] joeytsa : LS has vwma, but don't see vwap[08:42 am] doji : For S Mitch?
[08:42 am] lightning : no VWAP on LS, that's correct
[08:42 am] mikewd2 -: for short
[08:42 am] storage : sina looking a little toppy
[08:43 am] mikewd2 -: i assume if the books are ok, these stocks will run back up at some point
[08:44 am] joeytsa : you would think so mike
[08:45 am] mikewd2 -: SINA at 68 would have been one great buy, didn't look like it at the time though
[08:45 am] sonorant : joey, there was a VWAP indicator written for LS that was given out in the April 2010 seminar
[08:45 am] topdogrex : Sina monitoring for long or short Mitch
[08:46 am] duckfan : good run for TNA after it closed the gap
[08:46 am] trvlntrdr : Mitch do you think the safest beginner trades are buy on the dips of intra-day trending stocks?
[08:47 am] mikewd2 -: and BIDU
[08:47 am] mikewd2 -: may be why SINA moving up
[08:47 am] mikewd2 -: Piper Jaffray believes the Department of Justice probe into Chinese accounting likely puts smaller company's such at Youku.com (YOKU), Sky-mobi (MOBI), and Dangdang (DANG) at risk given they do not have proven track records. The firm believes SINA (SINA), and Baidu (BIDU) will be less affected.
[08:48 am] qwert : sure but i just remembered it's for esignal not lightspeed do you guys use their charts
[08:49 am] joeytsa : FOSL powering up
[08:49 am] joeytsa : no, not using esignal..thanks anyway
[08:54 am] lisas : I agree, I do best on the reversals, gaps not quite so well, still needs practice
[08:54 am] trvlntrdr : mitch, thanks, that helps. But are the highest profit potential the safest for beginners?
[08:55 am] trvlntrdr : What are the training wheel trades, I guess is the question
[08:57 am] joeytsa : makes sense lisa..gap fades are my fav, followed by Mitch's V pattern
[08:57 am] lisas : I may try one of the other platforms so I can sim trade the open gaps while live trade the 3min reversals. Hard to switch back and forth.
[08:57 am] ronfrac : I would say training wheel trades are smaller-100-200 shares.
[08:57 am] sonorant : sina turning??
[08:57 am] trvlntrdr : It definitely helps a beginner to trade with mentors like the trading room, especially after learning how to manage the categories of trades. to allow a template for learning in real time.
[08:58 am] joeytsa : lots of times my gap fades form a Mitch V pattern, leading to the reversal trade that Mitch just wrote about above
[08:58 am] lisas : Actually, Kris made great point about being consistent with dollar amount. I have had some larger stocks wipe out my gains in smaller stocks as I was using the same share size on all
[08:58 am] sonorant : yes -- I've upped my share size on the tiny stocks -- makes them seem real profitable now
[08:59 am] lisas : Sina does look like a short now
[08:59 am] shark : looks weak still
[08:59 am] shark : SINA reversing
[09:02 am] joeytsa : lisa: while i would never recommend trading with schwab, their streetsmartedge platform has a really cool feature..
[09:02 am] joeytsa : you can have different strategy setups and drag them to separate monitors etc...just too expensive commission-wise
[09:05 am] mikewd2 -: AGQ approaching hod[09:06 am] lisas : Joey, thanks. I'll check it out. I have Tradestation right now, but freezes periodically. Still need to catch up on webinar videos on platforms. Probably will call it a day and spend the afternoon doing that.
[09:07 am] joeytsa : i actually really like sse, i have one page set for the 3minfade, 1 set like mitch with the 1min/2min..etc
[09:07 am] joeytsa : just have to keep turning my head side to side to enter via lightspeed[09:08 am] joeytsa : decent watchlist, news, screener..not great but ok for a quick look
[09:10 am] go4it : I like Streetsmart edge
[09:10 am] lightning : I'm watching for SINA to break up through the 75.75 consolidation area. If it breaks, I'll be looking for it to run.
[09:10 am] trvlntrdr : yes
[09:11 am] joeytsa : i like that chart too
[09:11 am] mikewd2 -: i think that news that maybe the larger chinese companies will not be an issue with the books, is helping.
[09:11 am] trvlntrdr : I have to be very conservative with my trading in the next week or I will go below 25,000
[09:11 am] trvlntrdr : I just wanted to see if you agreed with the idea.
[09:13 am] sonorant : Mitch -- I am looking at the AMSC daily -- quite a few days of down recently
[09:13 am] trvlntrdr : yest was all time low
[09:14 am] joeytsa : think we are just looking at it as an example
[09:14 am] mikewd2 -: how are you guys looking to trade AMSC?
[09:15 am] candelas : nice call on Sina short Mitch
[09:15 am] mikewd2 -: boy, hit that resistance at 75'ish and cratered
[09:16 am] joeytsa : the consolidation area..macd was trending down the whole time
[09:17 am] doji : NFLX re-start dropping
[09:17 am] joeytsa : on the 1min
[09:17 am] trvlntrdr : that would be your short term upside target-- 5?
[09:18 am] neuronx : INSU nice drop
[09:19 am] joeytsa : CLF back down below ma's
[09:20 am] neuronx : Mitch you are long on AMSC?
[09:20 am] pow : KRIS FMCN?
[09:20 am] shark : thx, doji. Had my NFLX on autopilot
[09:21 am] pow : Sorry, MItch take a look at FMCN
[09:21 am] sonorant : Kris is doing pre-wedding prep pow[09:21 am] trvlntrdr : anybody want my NFLX 210 october calls? I am having sale
[09:22 am] joeytsa : 1 minute chart on AMSC
[09:22 am] joeytsa : also a break above yesterdays high around $4.30 on higher volume
[09:22 am] joeytsa : re: AMSC, i see a stoch buy signal every time it touched 35 or lower then turned back up...
[09:23 am] trvlntrdr : I bought them before this whole nflx thing started, back when they were a strong but short term oversold stock.....
[09:24 am] joeytsa : google Global Communications sometime
[09:24 am] shark : you can still get .05 I would take it.
[09:25 am] joeytsa : Mitch STRESSES discipline..especially with losses
[09:25 am] joeytsa : trv: you asked about best trade...lots of times its your worst loss
[09:25 am] trvlntrdr : as soon as the news started about the pricing -- they were almost worthless--
[09:26 am] joeytsa : if trading was easy, everyone would be doing it and be rich
[09:26 am] joeytsa : trust me: If you aren't disciplined with keeping your losses under control...a $0 balance in your account will
[09:26 am] mikewd2 -: bummed about my NFLX stop this morning, lost a lot but if i still had it 8 points lower! ouch
[09:26 am] mikewd2 -: your right joey
[09:26 am] shark : usually, your first loss, is your best loss trvlntrdr[09:26 am] trvlntrdr : you might be right joey-- but after the news of pricing change they went down to pennies. I held because it was only a $7 total risk.
[09:27 am] mikewd2 -: not bad trlntrdr, my NFLX was couple k
[09:27 am] shark : it's the % loss that matters
[09:27 am] sonorant : I have been in and out of NFLX -- not sure if up or down on it
[09:27 am] trvlntrdr : I actually didn't lose much -- a couple hundred dollars.
[09:28 am] joeytsa : more lessons in losses than wins, bunch of wins can make us lazy..Mitch rule #18
[09:28 am] sonorant : not much of a dip this last time. I would love to do more of those charts -- slow but steady
[09:29 am] trvlntrdr : I definitely think the sting of losing is a better teacher-- plus you don't get careless.
[09:30 am] joeytsa : yeah mike...remember those 38 steps to becoming a daytrader[09:30 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, but you forget after a few wins and time
[09:30 am] sonorant : yes, but sooner or later I will need to win, or I will be out of the game -- I can only be a student for so long
[09:30 am] trvlntrdr : mike-- you are so right!
[09:30 am] trvlntrdr : thanks mitch--
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: Rumor, RIMM may exit tablet market
[09:31 am] trvlntrdr : I think sina is trending now. down
[09:32 am] joeytsa : RIMM is up against it
[09:32 am] joeytsa : RIMM used to be a high-flyer
[09:32 am] mikewd2 -: i agree Mitch
[09:32 am] mikewd2 -: RIMM says "pure fiction"
[09:32 am] Mitch K: my guess is that RIMM goes away altogether next few years
[09:33 am] joeytsa : it's like a phone with no dial buttons
[09:33 am] lightning : I'll buy the fire.
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: seems like a mistake
[09:33 am] Mitch K: what is your take on the new Amazon Kindle Fire $199? no camera and no mic[09:33 am] shark : $79 can't go wrong.
[09:34 am] lisas : It will funnel people to amazon
[09:34 am] lisas : new cloud computing storage is interesting
[09:34 am] Mitch K: i think the Fire fills a market, a lot of people just want to check email, browse a little, watch movies
[09:34 am] shark : ipad still the ultimate
[09:34 am] shark : RIMM alert
[09:35 am] joeytsa : i would buy it as a gift for someone, but get an ipad for me :)
[09:35 am] lightning : neither replace my iphone.
[09:35 am] lisas : priced right as well
[09:35 am] shark : I agree, Mitch. Great, affordable gift price
[09:36 am] joeytsa : i just spent $2000 for an oven and range hood
[09:36 am] joeytsa : not gonna chince on something really cool haha[09:36 am] lisas : Also, many textbooks are coming out for ipads, fire will be able to get into that market for amazon
[09:36 am] lisas : But that is really true.
[09:36 am] Mitch K: lol right joey, you bad boy
[09:37 am] Mitch K: watching for potential bottom in AMSC again. each time this happens, the higher the risk so you don't go heavier, you go lighter in position size as it goes up
[09:38 am] Mitch K: no sonorant, not add, you buy and sell, not additive. creates too big position with your description
[09:38 am] shark : watch to make sure AMSC holds the 50min ma -it's testing it now
[09:38 am] sonorant : okay, so in theory, you could add at each dip -- less as it goes up?
[09:39 am] shark : buy pullbacks, sell rips
[09:39 am] shark : until it no longer works
[09:39 am] sonorant : so you just play the same stock over and over?
[09:40 am] joeytsa : JVA with a decent spike
[09:41 am] joeytsa : but that pattern is always playable, Mitch talks pattern recognition
[09:41 am] joeytsa : sonorant..you can play the same stock, but after a decent run sometimes the momentum slows....
[09:41 am] qwert : mitch you mean the stochastics on the 1 min chart or 2 min chart
[09:41 am] shark : NFLX new lod, hope you guys have some shorts in here
[09:41 am] sonorant : and what are you using as confirmation? stochastics?
[09:42 am] qwert : on amsc[09:43 am] junior : out half SINA short
[09:43 am] shark : RIMM new lod[09:45 am] lightning : I don't see a halt on AMSC.
[09:45 am] Mitch K: guys, are we halted on AMSC?
[09:45 am] Mitch K: just a min qwert, let me get to that
[09:45 am] Mitch K: yeah, ok, just slow
[09:45 am] qwert : no
[09:45 am] sonorant : just stopped out
[09:45 am] trvlntrdr : still trading
[09:46 am] mikewd2 -: so with financials leading this rally, shouldn't the other stocks come back soon?
[09:46 am] qwert : okay thanks mitch[09:47 am] joeytsa : only if investors really believe in the move
[09:48 am] joeytsa : but theoretically yes
[09:48 am] lightning : SINA banging against VWAP here
[09:48 am] shark : rally, what rally? a lot of former leading stocks breaking down...
[09:48 am] truck : TIF
[09:49 am] sonorant : no lower low? I had drawn a trend line and it broke it
[09:49 am] trvlntrdr : has not made a lower low or high
[09:49 am] trvlntrdr : sonorant, for what it's worth-- amsc is still technically in an uptrend
[09:50 am] mikewd2 -: your right shark, rally wasn't the right word.
[09:51 am] trvlntrdr : It did come off the trend line, but it stll could be a pullback only
[09:53 am] trvlntrdr : I am a lot more cautious too about it and adjusted my targets, but I kept my stops below the last low. I am not an expert though but I think that is what the teachers would say
[09:54 am] sonorant : that makes a huge stop unless you got it at the bottom of the dip
[09:56 am] sonorant : IDCC down a bit
[09:58 am] trvlntrdr : yes that is true about the stop but I thought it was a safer type of trade. whatever that is.
[10:00 am] joeytsa : on that higher low?
[10:00 am] joeytsa : trv: are you saying your stop would have been slightly under $4.50?
[10:02 am] joeytsa : that's the one I'm looking at sonorant..was eyeballing it
[10:02 am] sonorant : I thought you were saying your stop would have been at $4.45 under the low prior to that
[10:03 am] joeytsa : that's how the chart looks to me also
[10:03 am] trvlntrdr : but now it has made a lower high the game is changed I want out
[10:03 am] trvlntrdr : yes I had the stop under 4.45
[10:05 am] sonorant : ATVI has given some nice swings today -- different chart pattern from many of them.
[10:07 am] joeytsa : trv: look at the 52wk chart of CMG...same pattern
[10:09 am] sonorant : but only 1 %
[10:09 am] trvlntrdr : it does look quite similar, except CMG is a good stock and amsc is only reboundind. only good for day trading
[10:10 am] trvlntrdr : I did look at avti, sonorant, there is money to be made there--1% is still 1%
[10:13 am] trvlntrdr : sina entering a pennant pattern-- who knows where it will go from here?
[10:15 am] trvlntrdr : I think down but I am not trading it!
[10:16 am] neuronx : THO setting for short
[10:19 am] trvlntrdr : yndx has some good movement today.
[10:22 am] joeytsa : yeah trv..it's the chart pattern to look at
[10:22 am] lightning : APOL dropping hard
[10:23 am] joeytsa : APOL alert
[10:23 am] sonorant : or is THO a runner that is at a dip?
[10:23 am] sonorant : this is where I start to go crazy a little bit.
[10:24 am] lightning : APOL: OIG's report on fraud rings could impact For-Profit sector, says PAA ResearchPAA Research believes the Office of Inspector General's report on fraud rings within the online education could have serious implications for the sector.
[10:24 am] lightning : from two minutes ago
[10:25 am] joeytsa : the f word
[10:25 am] trvlntrdr : apol down but COCO stable.
[10:25 am] trvlntrdr : the government has been after the for profit schools for 3 years.
[10:26 am] candelas : not as strong
[10:26 am] sonorant : If it were fraud, I thought it wasn't supposed to bounce? and it is bouncing.
[10:27 am] joeytsa : correct candelas
[10:27 am] joeytsa : out APOL
[10:27 am] sonorant : ah.... thanks so that is the distinction
[10:27 am] trvlntrdr : I would stay away if it even might be fraud. check the other stocks in the sector.
[10:28 am] joeytsa : 30cents for the good guys :)
[10:28 am] junior : joey thanks for APOL
[10:30 am] candelas : lod Nflx[10:30 am] joeytsa : trv: if it's truly fraud, you would think the stock would wiggle down eventually
[10:30 am] trvlntrdr : I agree I have no idea what it is.
[10:30 am] trvlntrdr : the other stocks in the sector didn't move so it isn't something systemic.
[10:31 am] mikewd2 -: TNA, SPY heading south
[10:31 am] trvlntrdr : the chart patter supports you being right but for beginners it can be dangerous
[10:32 am] pow : mike, i am short amsc what is a good exit point
[10:33 am] joeytsa : trv: my trade wasn't absolutely correct, but i risked $150 to make $300...and i then decided against the short
[10:33 am] mikewd2 -: joey you want to help pow[10:33 am] mikewd2 -: pow- i haven't been playing amsc, in fact i thought you guys were long.
[10:33 am] mikewd2 -: there is support at 4.40
[10:34 am] joeytsa : what happened with pow?
[10:34 am] mikewd2 -: evidently pow shorted it - which looked good. He is question where to exit
[10:34 am] trvlntrdr : Mike I think a lot of people got out of AMSC
[10:35 am] joeytsa : not sure the entry price
[10:35 am] joeytsa : there's slight support here
[10:35 am] qwert : vwap on amsc is at 4.35
[10:36 am] joeytsa : indi's are bottoming, but not turning back up yet
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: pow - what was your entry?
[10:38 am] joeytsa : hang on..getting ready to close out a TZA trade
[10:38 am] mikewd2 -: at support here, be nice if it kept falling
[10:38 am] sonorant : AMSC good short -- that is being flexible -- good job pow!
[10:38 am] trvlntrdr : apol really in free fall --
[10:39 am] joeytsa : out TZA....nice trade pow[10:39 am] mikewd2 -: very nice job pow[10:39 am] pow : out of AMSC @ 4.39 for about .30 cents
[10:40 am] mikewd2 -: TNA just keeps on falling
[10:40 am] sonorant : IDCC losing its cookies again
[10:41 am] joeytsa : nice short on APOL if you got it
[10:42 am] joeytsa : ESI has same pattern as APOL
[10:42 am] trvlntrdr : yep
[10:43 am] joeytsa : best guess on that APOL/fraud....
[10:43 am] trvlntrdr : I was looking at other ones and didn't see it
[10:43 am] trvlntrdr : stra[10:44 am] joeytsa : that quick pop were day traders playing the quick overreaction,, that 2nd drop due to the average joe getting the news late
[10:44 am] trvlntrdr : the whole sector is declining now
[10:46 am] mikewd2 -: looking like a good setup for a big bounce - yes?
[10:48 am] candelas : lod Apol[10:48 am] trvlntrdr : Sina finally broke out to the upside
[10:49 am] joeytsa : bottom coming on APOL??
[10:49 am] joeytsa : heavy volume, last bar gapped down
[10:50 am] doji : SINA, when trvlntrdr? I don't see it
[10:51 am] joeytsa : APOL a setup on 3mf possibly
[10:51 am] joeytsa : in ESI..playing tight
[10:52 am] pow : MK, what is good out for AMSC?
[10:52 am] skydiver : L apol 40.16
[10:52 am] trvlntrdr : edu[10:53 am] joeytsa : quick trade on ESI
[10:53 am] sonorant : long APOL 40.12
[10:54 am] trvlntrdr : good move on ESI
[10:55 am] joeytsa : yeah trv, i took 40cents and 90cents
[10:55 am] pow : FAS new LOL
[10:55 am] pow : out of all AMSC long
[10:56 am] trvlntrdr : I thought EDU might follow the leader but it is a little dog right now
[10:57 am] junior : 33,98 TNA
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: 34.13,
[10:57 am] qwert : 33.97 tna[10:57 am] storage : 34.0
[10:57 am] terry : .14
[10:57 am] truck : 34.05,,,,TNA
[10:57 am] truck : yes
[10:58 am] junior : out some at .45
[10:58 am] pow : sale TNA around 34.5 to 34.75
[10:58 am] qwert : took 1/2 at 34.49
[10:58 am] sonorant : out APOL -- some profit
[10:59 am] qwert : stop at be on tna[10:59 am] truck : out half 34.40,,,plus one percent..TNA[11:00 am] Mitch K: ESI same sector as APOL trvlntrder[11:00 am] pow : Look at AMSC
[11:01 am] Mitch K: on what stock storage?
[11:01 am] monster : around 35s
[11:01 am] storage : don't think we have a sell signal yet
[11:01 am] storage : tna[11:01 am] trvlntrdr : (but edu turned in to a dog)
[11:01 am] trvlntrdr : yep-- I was following the sector and figured I didn't want to get in all the same stocks as the other guys on the board.
[11:02 am] junior : out some more TNA,40
[11:02 am] junior : stopped last piece tna .25
[11:02 am] mikewd2 -: stopped half at even
[11:02 am] mikewd2 -: want to get out half at 1% - sold half at 34.47
[11:02 am] Mitch K: right, good man
[11:02 am] storage : did take 1/2 off at 34.5
[11:02 am] truck : plus .15 last half,,,TNA[11:02 am] truck : stopped last half34.20
[11:03 am] doji : Fitch cuts New Zealand's sovereign rating to 'AA'
[11:03 am] mikewd2 -: not a great trade but a little profit
[11:03 am] pow : spy testing double bottom, should get bounce here
[11:04 am] doji : and the market reacts?
[11:04 am] truck : one percent ,first half,,,,half per cent last half
[11:05 am] storage : stop last 1/2 with a little profit on it
[11:07 am] mhaus : Bank of America plans to start charging customers a $5 monthly debit card fee. The fee will be rolled out starting early next year.
[11:07 am] mhaus : for purchases with the debit card
[11:11 am] storage : On tna Mitch, because the price did not go up far enough we got stop out be for the sell signal?
[11:13 am] pow : Have anyone notice TZA is making a higher high every day?
[11:13 am] storage : Mitch, on tna the price did not go up enough, so we got stopped out a little before the sell sig ?
[11:14 am] Mitch K: what chart interval did you use to get a sell signal on TNA storage?
[11:15 am] lightning : he's looking at the 2-min TNA chart
[11:15 am] Mitch K: explain
[11:15 am] storage : chart on tsa[11:16 am] storage : I am very new, but the black line came down to the blue?
[11:16 am] storage : on the stochastic
[11:17 am] Mitch K: the interval means 1, min, 2 min, etc.
[11:18 am] pow : TZA over the last two days have traded a range of about 8 point and has made higher highs
[11:19 am] sonorant : I wasn't in the trade, but I have a bunch of indicator lines right where TNA bounced -- yesterday's close and yesterday's low
[11:20 am] topdogrex : anyone short on NFLX
[11:21 am] sonorant : sadly ,no
[11:21 am] topdogrex : easy money on the short side
[11:22 am] topdogrex : looks like is going to 100
[11:23 am] candelas : lod GMCR
[11:23 am] mikewd2 -: i think the couple analyst that said 60's might be right
[11:23 am] shark : Wow! NFLX in such a rush to get to my 100 short term range
[11:25 am] candelas : out 1/2 GMCR 92.79
[11:25 am] pow : AMSC coming into 5 min support with good Stochastics[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: stepped away and missed TNA
[11:27 am] candelas : stop b/e 91.57 last 1/2
[11:29 am] candelas : out 1/4 gmcr 92.93
[11:30 am] candelas : watching FMCN
[11:31 am] candelas : soda
[11:31 am] candelas : yea played bounce
[11:31 am] sonorant : So candelas, how were you playing the GMCR? what did you see in it? a small bounce in a trend?
[11:31 am] truck : in TNA 33.54,,out half 33.15
[11:33 am] candelas : stopped last 1/4 of GMC 92.49
[11:33 am] mikewd2 -: how about 34.15?
[11:34 am] papadoc : TNA 33.5 out 34.1
[11:38 am] doji : Hey Shark that is copy righted material... I was the first to place my buy limit order in NFLX at 100!
[11:38 am] pow : Will get long TNA if breaks 34.55
[11:39 am] shark : sweeeeet!
[11:41 am] candelas : out 1/2 FMCN 20.77
[11:42 am] candelas : last 1/2
[11:42 am] candelas : stop b/e[11:42 am] candelas : stoppd last 1/2 FMCN
[11:42 am] sonorant : I tried twice to get in to FMCN and couldn't get filled.
[11:44 am] trvlntrdr : it is interesting how EDU did follow its competitors but lagged by over 20 mins[11:45 am] candelas : out 1/2 short FMCN 20.31
[11:45 am] lightning : it's not very bright
[11:45 am] pow : anyone short NFLX at 126.5 this morning?
[11:47 am] trvlntrdr : I was thinking, if EDU breaks res. at 23.85 should have good upward movement until 24.80
[11:48 am] candelas : out 1/4 FMCN 20.21
[11:48 am] shark : I can buy me some good shark meat!
[11:48 am] shark : NFLX short 1000 shares at 122ish
[11:48 am] sonorant : real money shark
[11:49 am] shark : went short 500 shares AAPL at 400 also
[11:49 am] trvlntrdr : wow shark!
[11:50 am] lisas : looking at ticks and $esinx[11:50 am] lisas : you may get it today
[11:50 am] shark : in all fairness, I missed the CMG short, though
[11:50 am] sonorant : ok -- in TZA -- indicator for selling it? almost back up to previous hod[11:51 am] candelas : out last 1/4 FMCN 20.09
[11:51 am] candelas : thx Qwert[11:51 am] sonorant : stochastics crossed on 1 min, but not on 2 min
[11:52 am] shark : good time to cover...going into end of day
[11:52 am] sonorant : uhhhhh just stopped out on NFLX
[11:53 am] doji : It's quite impressive how the SPX open over 1% gains and it's now -0.86%
[11:53 am] shark : end of day profits on the big one's sonorant
[11:53 am] sonorant : explain?
[11:53 am] sonorant : oh -- people covering shorts?
[11:54 am] shark : big stock moves, yes, sonorant
[11:54 am] shark : nflx...for sure
[11:54 am] sonorant : what are the big ones?
[11:54 am] sonorant : you mean big stocks?
[11:55 am] doji : Looking to enter S in NFLX on thsi rebound.... will wait
[11:55 am] shark : anything over 10% is bound to have some bounce or reversal at some point
[11:55 am] sonorant : anything over 10% what? 10% move?
[11:55 am] sonorant : so someone who has been short all day decides to cover -- except that it is many, many someone's and the price goes up?
[11:56 am] shark : 10% PRICE move, sonorant
[11:56 am] shark : thx for the alert sonorant, hard to keep my "alert's" all up to the minute
[11:57 am] shark : NFLX looks like it wants to continue bounce here
[11:58 am] candelas : fmcn bounced nicely off support
[11:58 am] candelas : u get the bounce Qwert[11:58 am] shark : :)
[11:58 am] shark : don't count on much, though
[11:58 am] sonorant : thanks for being patient
[11:59 am] candelas : cool
[11:59 am] candelas : course never exact
[11:59 am] candelas : round # 20.03
[11:59 am] qwert : you betcha candles thx
[12:00 pm] pow : I missed entry o NFLX on 2 min chart
[12:00 pm] sonorant : also, chat room communications are very easily misunderstood -- so it is always best to double check what someone means.
[12:01 pm] candelas : that was like 3.5%
[12:01 pm] pow : The VIX has a daily ascending triangle.
[12:01 pm] shark : should be another coming soon, pow[12:01 pm] shark : the one's to the downside are better NFLX
[12:05 pm] candelas : hod FAZ
[12:06 pm] candelas : all out of long
[12:06 pm] candelas : think i trade it long short then long
[12:06 pm] qwert : candles are u still in with a piece of fmcn[12:06 pm] qwert : just realized i still have a small piece
[12:07 pm] candelas : don't take any strays with u
[12:07 pm] candelas : i still have 1 share of avav[12:07 pm] qwert : i know!
[12:08 pm] candelas : from waaaaay back months ago
[12:08 pm] qwert : i only have 100 fmcn[12:09 pm] candelas : u got it
[12:09 pm] sonorant : 1 share?? for Kris???
[12:10 pm] candelas : faz/fas[12:10 pm] candelas : I just have charts side by side
[12:10 pm] candelas : nice trade
[12:10 pm] qwert : lots more action later in the day today love it
[12:10 pm] sonorant : got a piece of the FAZ short -- didn't have time to switch to FAS. Thanks candles.
[12:11 pm] candelas : understand
[12:11 pm] sonorant : I don't have room for both, have to switch. And I exited my 2nd half too soon.
[12:12 pm] candelas : it was a give me, fas was bottoming and Faz was at resis[12:12 pm] candelas : of course i missed it
[12:12 pm] sonorant : no -- you called it...
[12:13 pm] candelas : sometimes best calls are ones u miss right Joey?
[12:14 pm] candelas : yes maam[12:14 pm] joeytsa : i think i called PCLN short off the quad-top at $550
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : yeah no kidding....
[12:14 pm] sonorant : so the FAZ resistance was previous day close and prev. day high?
[12:15 pm] sonorant : got it, thanks.
[12:16 pm] lisas : Will be interesting to see if we get a bounce end of day or sel off
[12:17 pm] candelas : thx for the alert Joey,Lisa[12:17 pm] candelas : we are suppose to be fam[12:17 pm] joeytsa : yeah, i got out of TZA at 51.50
[12:17 pm] lisas : you're so good we didn't think you needed alerts
[12:18 pm] candelas : ideas are great
[12:18 pm] joeytsa : feels like a family
[12:18 pm] joeytsa : sure are..it's like have 50 pairs of eyes
[12:18 pm] pow : MKing tna looks bearish here to me. I will buy if breaks 34.55 area
[12:18 pm] shark : CMG bounced off the 100 day ma today
[12:19 pm] pow : The market feels like a bull trap to me
[12:20 pm] joeytsa : i kind of have the same feeling pow, but trying to avoid it in affecting my daytrades[12:20 pm] sonorant : isn't there supposed to be "window dressing" at the end of this week? What is that and what will that do?
[12:20 pm] sonorant : yes it is!!!! What is a bull trap pow?
[12:21 pm] doji : Any idea on how to make $1K in the next 40 min
[12:21 pm] doji : lol[12:21 pm] pow : The market trying to get you to buy so it can reverse on you and take you down
[12:22 pm] joeytsa : LNKD alert
[12:22 pm] shark : tomorrow on weekly options expiration doji[12:22 pm] sonorant : candelas, did you pick the FMCN bottom off the daily chart? you had it pretty much dead on.
[12:23 pm] candelas : yes as well as the round number 20
[12:23 pm] shark : you go, joeytsa, the human alarm. just when I thought the machines were taking over
[12:24 pm] qwert : candles you get lnkd[12:24 pm] qwert : lnkd[12:24 pm] qwert : no shares for short at lightspeed[12:25 pm] candelas : i turned my head for sec and missed my price
[12:25 pm] sonorant : no shares for me, and I'm just sim! should have hit sell for bid.
[12:25 pm] sonorant : oh.... thanks
[12:26 pm] joeytsa : i couldn't get a short off either..nice quick move though
[12:33 pm] joeytsa : market on a nice run
[12:33 pm] lisas : good volume as well
[12:34 pm] mikewd2 -: yes, 34.3
[12:34 pm] storage : anyone in tna[12:35 pm] joeytsa : yeah storage 33.80
[12:35 pm] truck : was,,,not now
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : got out early...gotta go soon
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : out TNA
[12:36 pm] mikewd2 -: out 35.08
[12:36 pm] truck : looking good Joey
[12:37 pm] joeytsa : nice mike...i took half at 34.74, just under the prev close, the other half at 35
[12:37 pm] pow : No i am not in....decided to keep my profits for today. I have been stopped out of tza over nite 3 days in a row because of its 8 point swings
[12:38 pm] truck : up over 4% on this last run...Must be a lot of short covering ?
[12:39 pm] joeytsa : thanks pow...could be truck
[12:39 pm] storage : got out at 35 a little early too
[12:39 pm] truck : lots of vol[12:40 pm] joeytsa : I'm ok with just getting a piece of the trend
[12:40 pm] mikewd2 -: resistance around 35.5'ish
[12:40 pm] truck : I see it Mike,,,,agree,,,may not get thru it
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : all right, you traders be safe...thanks for a great day, thanks Mitch...see you all tomorrow !!!
[12:42 pm] truck : it is late,but TZA looks good [12:42 pm] doji : TZA L 50.18
[12:43 pm] doji : Just need 5 minutes
[12:43 pm] truck : good entry doji[12:44 pm] doji : Stop at breakeven in TZA
[12:45 pm] doji : Anyone taking NFLX home as swing?
[12:45 pm] doji : Out at breakeven TZA
[12:46 pm] sonorant : long or short? it is a little dicey either way at this point.
[12:47 pm] doji : I have my entry limit order L at 100
[12:47 pm] doji : L
[12:47 pm] sonorant : is anyone else having problems with ninja trader being sluggish?
[12:49 pm] lightning : I had a day of bungled trades, but ended up a little in the green. Up is up baby.
[12:49 pm] lightning : Thanks TSA and everyone. See you tomorrow
[12:49 pm] mhaus : If that is slow or if the data feed is slow, NT will be sluggish
[12:49 pm] mhaus : Sonorant, check your internet connection
[12:49 pm] storage : mitch if you are there thanks for all you teach us . i will keep trying to learn from you. don't give up on me !
[12:50 pm] qwert : awesome day thanks for all the great calls see ya in the am
[12:50 pm] sonorant : okay, thanks, good point.
[12:52 pm] mikewd2 -: nice turnaround this afternoon late
[12:56 pm] lisas : Candelas, you still here?
[12:57 pm] candelas : yes
[12:58 pm] candelas : ask ur broker about it, they do not publicize
[12:58 pm] candelas : underneath lot more damage than indices show
[12:58 pm] lisas : when you are done trading, did I see you post in the webinar something about Tradestation free for life? I checked website and didn't see that, just the 2012 special.
[12:59 pm] candelas : it's a plus say if u go on sabbatical for 30 days,etc[12:59 pm] candelas : just tell them u know about it
[01:01 pm] lisas : take a hanky Mitch
[01:01 pm] mhaus : Mitch, wish Kris on our behalf
[01:01 pm] qwert : tell kris we all say a prayer for him
[01:01 pm] shark : cool, awesome, Mitch!
[01:01 pm] sonorant : Is the wedding today???
[01:01 pm] tennisball : Mitch, can't thank you enough.
[01:02 pm] lisas : Thanks Mitch, enjoy!
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: i think you have it right qwert, we are praying, and the tears, well, those are for uuh, well
[01:02 pm] sonorant : thank you Mitch. great job holding the fort!
[01:03 pm] lisas : Candelas, so you get the tradestation for life if you are going to take a 30 day break?
[01:04 pm] lisas : Course I'm trading enough now, the only fees are futures fees for the most part
[01:04 pm] sonorant : Candelas, I am intrigued by your comment about 'damage underneath'
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