Chat Highlights From 09/13/2013

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(06:12 am) Ed :good morning traders (06:14 am) Mitch :September 13, 2013 Pre Market Up: AEPI, RMTI, GSVC, NG, ULTA, GOLD, LULU, Pre Market Down: AAPL, SSYS, NXPI, TSLA, PRAN, MKTO, INN, YHOO (06:24 am) Ed :fyi: Japan ran a newspaper article that Summers will be person to take over oct.1 for Bernanke. While we dont know if this is the case. But some things about Summers is that he is very hawkish meaning tighter stance on monetary policy, which is opposite of Bernanke. So this will be something to watch as tighter monetary policy typically is not good for gold. Markets will let us know of course (06:30 am) Ed :115 area to watch on ULTA on upside (06:31 am) Mitch :bcr (06:31 am) Mitch King:watching AET (06:31 am) JoeyTSA :eye on INCY,BBBY (06:31 am) Mitch :watching UNFI (06:32 am) Mitch King:WATCHING regn (06:32 am) Ed :press conference by Kerry and Russia coming shortly (06:32 am) Mitch King:WATCHING sndk (06:32 am) Mitch :watching UA (06:32 am) Mitch King:other health care stocks besides AET: UNH, WLP, CI, HUM (06:33 am) Mitch King:watching VRTX for bottom (06:33 am) JoeyTSA :SSYS getting action (06:33 am) Mitch King:watching SCTY for bottom to buy (06:33 am) Mitch :watching TEL (06:34 am) Mitch King:watching YHOO (06:34 am) Mitch King:monitoring SGMO for bottom, low priced, take time (06:35 am) Mitch King:watching MDVN for bottom (06:35 am) Mitch King:watching CLF (06:36 am) JoeyTSA :/CL trying to hold S2 (06:36 am) Mitch King:watching TROX for top (06:36 am) Mitch King:watching SWY for top (06:36 am) JoeyTSA :eye on NQ (06:36 am) Qwert :monitoring NQ (06:36 am) Mitch King:DNKN spiking (06:36 am) JoeyTSA :will keep QIHU on radar again today (06:37 am) Mitch King:watching SPN for bottom, take time (06:37 am) Mitch King:watching P for top (06:38 am) Mitch King:watching IRBT for bottom (06:38 am) Mitch King:monitoring BBBY, Bed Bath Beyond (06:39 am) Mitch King:important buy signal on CL 10, should last 30-45 minutes (06:39 am) JoeyTSA :BIDU might set up for breakout? (06:40 am) JoeyTSA :tighten BBBY if long (06:40 am) Mitch King:monitoring ZMH (06:42 am) Mitch King:monitoring EDU (06:42 am) Mitch King:monitoring FTNT, not great idea yet (06:44 am) Mitch King:watching INCY but looks dead so far (06:44 am) Mitch King:starting to watch NBIX drop (06:45 am) Mitch King:watching ERJ, Embraer, Brazilian jet maker. dont rush, (06:46 am) Mitch King:Reminder: when i use monitoring, it isnt developed idea yet, "watching" means probably going to turn into a tradable idea (06:46 am) Mitch King:monitoring HCA (06:47 am) Mitch King:watching AKAM for top (06:48 am) JoeyTSA :UofM # in about 5 min, then Bus Inv a few minuates after that (06:48 am) Ed's assistant :Monitoring LULU (06:48 am) Mitch King:short term top in CL 10 but looking to buy long again on next bottom (06:48 am) Mitch King:watching UGAZ for top (06:49 am) Mitch King:monitoring WEN, Wendy's, very low priced stock, dont rush (06:49 am) Mitch King:watching ULTA move up (06:50 am) JoeyTSA :tighten QIHU if short (06:51 am) Ed :if u took ULTA long over 115 would reduce some (06:51 am) Mitch King:watching VRTX for bottom (06:52 am) Mitch King:watching ARIA for bottom, (06:53 am) JoeyTSA :watching SOHU for bottom (06:55 am) Ed :*(US) SEPT PRELIMINARY UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN CONFIDENCE: 76.8 V 82.0E (07:00 am) Ed :US) JULY BUSINESS INVENTORIES: 0.4% V 0.2%E (07:01 am) Mitch King:on this CL 10, as it pulls back on this drop, i am looking to get long again but not in hurry (07:02 am) JoeyTSA :eye on SINA $85 level (07:03 am) Mitch King:ok just bot on that little dip here in CL, watching for higher moves in next 30 min, be flexible (07:07 am) Ed :SPY new lod (07:08 am) Ed :price on SPY touching yesterdays close (07:10 am) Mitch King:watchign ARIA again for 2nd bottom (07:12 am) JoeyTSA :OXY getting vol (07:12 am) JoeyTSA :eye on YELP for bottom (07:16 am) Mitch King:watching HWAY on 2 min Lightning chart for buy signal (07:16 am) Mitch King:watching NQ for bottom to buy, (07:17 am) Mitch King:YOKU bouncing (07:18 am) JoeyTSA :tighten SSYS if short (07:21 am) Ed :monitoring Z, needs more vol and more selling to get me interested in potential setup for long (07:22 am) Mitch King:watching VRTX for 2nd bottom to buy (07:22 am) JoeyTSA :watching QCOR for bottom (07:24 am) Mitch King:on that last buy on CL 10 dip, consider getting best price to sell if long (07:28 am) Qwert :monitoring YELP (07:28 am) JoeyTSA :tighten OXY if short (07:29 am) Mitch King:when i use the term "best price" that should tell you it isnt a panic sell on CL, just that you try to get a better price that currently on a little bounce. YOu have to get into the mindset that you can get better prices, that you usually have plenty of time (07:30 am) Mitch King:when you look at price movement, 95% of the time prices move around in oscillations and also within the next 10-15 candles in CL you can get prices you want (07:36 am) Mitch King:this type of trading action on CL chart is no trading zone, dont touch mouse or it bites (07:37 am) Mitch King:looking for short here in NG 10-13, probably best price already past (07:48 am) Ed's assistant :Monitoring ARO (08:15 am) Qwert :IPI (08:30 am) JoeyTSA :/CL testing $108 (09:25 am) Ed :MODERATOR BOX (10:00 am) Ed :13:00 VPHM Shire and Sanofi said to be interested in acquiring the company - (10:06 am) JoeyTSA :VPHM (10:06 am) Ed :will trail last 1/4 real tight on VPHM long (10:06 am) Ed :reducing 3/4 long on VPHM (10:08 am) Ed :when I find it will let u know (10:08 am) Ed :should be another stock trading in sympathy with VPHM (10:09 am) Ed :wiout=out (10:09 am) Ed :wiout all VPHM long (10:18 am) Mitch King:GC 12-13, gold futures buy signal, should be decent, important buy signal (10:20 am) Mitch King:i would mentally prepare that 1-2 hours on a gold futures move is possible to take that long (11:00 am) Ed :- NYSE volume 287M shares, about 16% below its three-month average; advancers lead decliners by 1.4:1. - NASDAQ volume 940M shares, about 5% below its three-month average; advancers lead decliners by 1.5:1. - VIX index -0.5% at just over 14.00 (11:02 am) Qwert :yoku moving a bit (11:24 am) Mitch King:short term traders could close gold futures if long but likely to move up more. It just gets real dead Friday afternoons. normally if earlier i would hold. (12:17 pm) Mitch King:funny thing is it isnt have any indication or hint that it is oversold yet (12:18 pm) Mitch King:GC just getting very early stages of possible over sold condition but early (12:57 pm) Ed :have great weekend traders (01:06 pm) Mitch King:later guys (10:18 am) Mitch King:GC 12-13, gold futures buy signal, should be decent, important buy signal (05:02 am) herman :gm all (05:18 am) chinhngo :gm all (05:20 am) chinhngo :d have very good news worth to look (05:37 am) chinhngo :who know retail report ? (05:53 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning Qwert, everone (05:54 am) JoeyTSA :UofM #'s @ 6;55pdt, Bus inv @ 7pdt (05:54 am) JoeyTSA :chin, retail sales slightly down (05:55 am) Qwert :good morning Joey, and to everyone :) (05:56 am) Qwert :Will watch FB and SINA with twitter ipo news (05:58 am) JoeyTSA :gap up : ULTA,SINA,GSVC (05:59 am) JoeyTSA :gap down: SSYS,TSLA,AAPL,SFUN? (05:59 am) chinhngo :retail down mean market will go down (05:59 am) taco :thx joey, gm early birds (06:00 am) JoeyTSA :no clue shin (06:00 am) JoeyTSA :chin (06:07 am) chinhngo :retail go up only .2 expectation is .4 so medium wage will bring market down (06:07 am) chinhngo :so boght uvxy (06:09 am) chinhngo :this is not logic ? (06:09 am) Ed :chin just recommendation, its best to stay away from making an opionion based on what you think will happen in markets then placing trade based on that fact. If and when proven wrong makes it more difficult to be flexible and make change based on market feedback (06:10 am) Ed :Great case in point, few years back, it was such that when oil went up, airlines stocks went down, however, lately we have seen oil prices go up and airline stocks go up (06:11 am) Ed :same for retail stocks, while oil prices moved up, retail did as well. What Im saying is that its best to be flexible in your approach and stay away from "opinions" and "fact" as it has not proven to be consisten over time (06:12 am) taco :thx ed (06:13 am) JoeyTSA :good point Ed (06:13 am) Ed :The best approach, is to see how the markets digest, and reacts to these numbers then setup game plan based on this factor (06:15 am) JoeyTSA :thx Mitch (06:15 am) taco :thx Mitch (06:17 am) skydiver :Thanks Mitch and great lesson Ed :) (06:20 am) Qwert :thx mitch and ed (06:20 am) Ed :last point want to make, dont try to find logic in markets, as they are and can be irrational and ilogical, seek logic, consistency from your trading plan and approach to the markets. Trading plan template can be found in documents section in trade room at lower right hand corner (06:24 am) chinhngo :i think thios is chat room to share you thinking with anyone to help each others (06:24 am) Ed :yes chin, that is the goal (06:25 am) chinhngo :that why i post my thinking (06:25 am) JoeyTSA :thx Ed, watching $1350 as big level (06:26 am) Ed :I think Jesse Livermore said it best, " I have many opinions and thoughts about market but never place money behind those opinions" (06:26 am) JoeyTSA :smart man (06:27 am) JoeyTSA :never read the livermore book (06:27 am) Ed :Yea wish I had stayed up late other night when /GC broke that level i posted (06:28 am) JoeyTSA :watching 1680 on /ES (06:30 am) elisha :gm all (06:36 am) skydiver :monitoring TSLA (06:40 am) JoeyTSA :caution on any breakout with opx today, never know where stock might pin to (06:40 am) skydiver :thnx joey (06:40 am) chinhngo :short p at 24.15 (06:42 am) regatta :watching ANR (06:44 am) chinhngo :cover p make 300.00 thank mitch (06:44 am) skydiver :thnks Mitch on INCY - was watching it closely (06:47 am) Qwert :ULTA at 115 (06:47 am) skydiver :RAX - take over chatter again (06:48 am) chinhngo :ulta very good earning today (06:48 am) electrader :Good call on (06:48 am) electrader :CL Mitch. Got 20 ticks out of move (06:49 am) skydiver :thnx for reminder on reports joey (06:50 am) chinhngo :short 1000 akam at 51.07 (06:55 am) Ed :low number (06:55 am) JoeyTSA :pretty big miss (06:55 am) Ed :yep (06:56 am) Mitch King:good job electrader but that is not enough profit target for that "important" signal (06:57 am) taco :Mitch the signal i got wasn't enhanced, no color behind it at all (06:58 am) electrader :I didnt get a buy signal on Lightning (06:58 am) taco :i have 242 lightning setting (06:58 am) Mitch King:i shouldnt even have posted that short term top comment at 648am. Many of these will give you 50-100 ticks. i will teach you in about 6 weeks, not ready yet (06:58 am) electrader :I'm using 362 (06:59 am) JoeyTSA :on 242 i got a buy signal at 6:36, right about at S2 level (06:59 am) JoeyTSA :no color, just a green up arrow (07:00 am) chinhngo :sold all nugt bought yesterday with good profit (07:00 am) taco :same as mine joey, actually see yellow behind it now (07:00 am) JoeyTSA :i got yellowish sel signal @ 6:52 (07:00 am) taco :but appreciate you calling it Mitch as well (07:00 am) electrader :Change to 242 and got #2 buy signal. (07:01 am) electrader :Thx Joey (07:01 am) JoeyTSA :funny taco, i didnt have the color (07:01 am) skydiver :taco - are you running on a mac or a pc? (07:01 am) taco :pc sky (07:01 am) skydiver :ok (07:02 am) JoeyTSA :SSYS slowly trying to close gap, might be getting tired here (07:04 am) JoeyTSA :SINA closed gap up (07:07 am) chinhngo :bought cover akam make 340.0 thank mitch (07:08 am) Ed :nice trade chin (07:09 am) Ed :hey chin u dont have to let everyone know wht ur making. they may want you to share (07:09 am) chinhngo :sold uvxy bought at premarket make 540.00 big day for me (07:10 am) chinhngo :why mr ed to celebrate together (07:10 am) chinhngo :i am really happy with if you post what you make (07:10 am) taco :haha (07:11 am) JoeyTSA :not enough room to type all the 0's after the 5 for Ed :) (07:11 am) Ed :we can celebrate without knowing how much, there maybe others in room who are new, and they may use what u make as benchmark, and thats not good as each trade is different (07:11 am) chinhngo :this mean this chat room is worth to make money (07:12 am) skydiver :I'm just smiling :) (07:12 am) chinhngo :oh you are so hard mr ed (07:12 am) Mitch King:hey chingo, its the ideas that you should be learning, not worry about how much someone else makes (07:12 am) chinhngo :let the thing are easy (07:13 am) chinhngo :ok i will not what i make are you happy ? (07:13 am) regatta :watching NQ (07:14 am) taco :born cranky, chose happiness:) (07:14 am) JoeyTSA ::) (07:15 am) Ed :Not happy or sad. (07:15 am) Ed :Im neutral (07:15 am) JoeyTSA :so much for that BIDU breakout watch haha, its at lod now (07:17 am) JoeyTSA :SFUN testing lod area (07:19 am) JoeyTSA :tighten= either tighten your stop or lighten shares (07:20 am) skydiver :I didn't post KORS earlier for a short as it didn't look like much money, but been a slow mover down -- all ouit of KORS short -- I must be turning a new leaf :) (07:22 am) JoeyTSA :nice sky (07:22 am) skydiver :thnx (07:23 am) Qwert :way to go sky (07:23 am) skydiver :QCOR moving down on speculation of investor short position (07:23 am) JoeyTSA :ahhh, thx sky (07:23 am) skydiver ::) (07:27 am) Qwert :missed the NQ long nice call mitch (07:28 am) JoeyTSA :SSYS giving nice trades so far (07:29 am) JoeyTSA :break time, good trading so far (07:29 am) taco :thx Mitch (07:29 am) taco :enjoy dr j (07:30 am) Qwert :dr j can joey dunk? (07:30 am) skydiver :take care joey -- (07:30 am) taco :lol (07:30 am) taco :with his chicken legs?? (07:32 am) Mitch King:taking 30 min break, i have to go get plain cake donuts (07:33 am) skydiver :donut time :) (07:33 am) taco :celebration? (07:34 am) skydiver :looking forward to the time we'll be able to email actual food across the internet - :) (07:34 am) skydiver :or beam items to one another :) (07:35 am) Qwert :ULTA new hod nice call ED (07:35 am) skydiver :nice lilttle bouince on YELP qwert (07:36 am) Qwert ::)) (07:42 am) Ed :nice one on Yelp qwert (07:43 am) Qwert :thx Ed (07:45 am) elisha :beam me a new brain sky (07:47 am) skydiver :hey elish -- yours is wonderful I'm sure . . :) (07:47 am) elisha :what a diplomat '') (07:48 am) skydiver :trading is not easy business . . . but I try to learn from my mistakes and down days -- better ones coming :) (07:49 am) elisha :i know you are right about better one coming'') (07:50 am) skydiver :I know . . hard to see if in a valley, but there are still hills out there. Takes lots of study, practice, and a great group like TSA to encourage and train (07:51 am) elisha :no argument there - this room is full of lots of good people and knoweldge (07:52 am) skydiver :sometimes I have back away, take a break, breathe, come back with a fresh perspective, shake things off, and move forward. Lately I've started in the negative and then worked my way out of the hole into positive .. I prefere starting positive :) (07:54 am) Qwert :Thx for ARO Disona (07:54 am) elisha :agree - positive is good - ....think on what is lovely.....etc,etc, (07:54 am) elisha :aro (07:55 am) elisha :sorry - wrong window (07:57 am) Ed :great weekend project. Its great idea to categorise ur trades. Ex. whay type was it, breakout/breakdown, reversal, news rumor. Then you want to be able to determin for type of strategies you take, what is win/loss % on those trades. This way you can spend more time trading stocks tht you have higer win/rate% (07:58 am) Ed :the comment from sky made me think of this (07:58 am) skydiver :good idea Ed . . . will do this assignment :) (07:58 am) taco :good idea ed (07:59 am) skydiver :I knew I liked Ed :) (07:59 am) JoeyTSA :great ideas (07:59 am) Qwert :excellent idea to know strengthes and weaknesses (07:59 am) JoeyTSA :then you can specialize on your best ones (07:59 am) Ed :lol. thx sky (07:59 am) skydiver ::) (07:59 am) Ed :exactly joey (07:59 am) elisha :thanks Ed - you always have such good suggestions (07:59 am) Qwert :yep and work on weaknesses (08:00 am) JoeyTSA :either work on them or totally avoid them (08:00 am) elisha :that sounds funny Qwert - you mean get rid of them '') (08:00 am) Ed :agreed joey (08:00 am) Qwert :yeah i just practiced them i sim (08:01 am) JoeyTSA :nice move on /CL (08:09 am) Ed :markets seems little strange today (08:09 am) JoeyTSA :glad you think so, thought i was only one (08:10 am) JoeyTSA :will probably make me take the "lunch hour" off (08:10 am) JoeyTSA :gotta work on my chicken legs as taco says haha (08:10 am) Ed :now my esignal data not showing all data (08:11 am) Ed :guess so slow, feed says why bother (08:11 am) Qwert :my esignal was lagging this am (08:11 am) JoeyTSA :wierd, my ninja charts wouldnt load up premarket (08:12 am) skydiver :Okay , I have to head up to Seattle to watch my middle schooler grandson play football -- thanks for great calls and teaching - will do my homework Ed as well :) see you all Monday (08:12 am) Ed :have safe trip (08:12 am) skydiver ::) (08:12 am) taco :c ya sky have good wknd (08:12 am) JoeyTSA :enjoy your trip sky, be safe, see you monday (08:12 am) Qwert :bye sky enjoy (08:12 am) elisha :have a nice trip sky (08:15 am) JoeyTSA :SQM weird spike (08:15 am) JoeyTSA :AGU also Ed (08:15 am) JoeyTSA :must be some rumor/deal (08:20 am) Qwert :POT moving up as well (08:31 am) chinhngo :bought uvxy (08:31 am) JoeyTSA :Ed, maybe market weirdness due to friday the 13th :) (08:32 am) JoeyTSA ::) (08:32 am) Ed :maybe ur right (08:32 am) elisha :who did that? (08:33 am) Ed :hitchcock, Alfred (08:33 am) elisha :at least it wasn't the soundtrack from the shower scene in Psycho... (08:33 am) Ed :lol (08:33 am) taco :i thought that was signal i hadnt heard lol (08:33 am) JoeyTSA :no thats the dissonant string sound (08:34 am) JoeyTSA :play high A and Bflat together 4 times and yuo have psycho sound :) (08:34 am) elisha :only you would know that (08:36 am) elisha :if you mix hazelnul and peach flavors together tastes like buttered popcorn - as long as we're doing trivia (08:36 am) JoeyTSA :music for 40yrs kind of helps too :) (08:36 am) elisha :'') (08:37 am) Ed :guess Bernanke says, "since Im halfway out the door, I will halfway juice the markets" (08:38 am) JoeyTSA :wonder what next "regime" does (08:39 am) Ed :disconnect the plug (08:39 am) elisha :how rocky do you think oct will be? (08:39 am) JoeyTSA :i have no clue (08:40 am) JoeyTSA :time to workout, gonna get it done (08:40 am) JoeyTSA :back in an hour or so (08:40 am) taco :bring it! (08:40 am) JoeyTSA :haha, gonna do my best (08:40 am) taco :i know you will (08:40 am) JoeyTSA :only 4 brutal exercises today, then day off tomorrow (08:47 am) taco :nice top in /CL potential downtrend (08:48 am) chinhngo :sold uvxy (08:50 am) chinhngo :bought mygn (08:59 am) chinhngo :bought nugt (09:02 am) chinhngo :sold mygn thank mr mitch (09:04 am) chinhngo :bought vrtx (09:10 am) alostath3 :r u in live (09:12 am) chinhngo :sold vrtx (09:16 am) taco :hi alostath3 (09:18 am) alostath3 :hi (09:18 am) taco :are you new? (09:18 am) alostath3 :yes (09:18 am) taco :welcome to the room (09:19 am) alostath3 :thanks (09:19 am) Qwert :welcome alostath3 (09:19 am) alostath3 :do u trade ES ? (09:19 am) chinhngo :welcome to alostath (09:19 am) taco :do you get a feel for how the room works? (09:20 am) alostath3 :not realy (09:20 am) chinhngo :sold the last vrtx mr mitch call this morning thank mitch (09:20 am) taco :maybe a moderator can help you out (09:21 am) elisha :welcome alostath3 - this is a great place to be (09:21 am) taco :i've learned a lot here for sure (09:21 am) chinhngo :but hold your opinion (09:22 am) taco :most stock ideas are in the first hour or so and posted in the moderator box (09:23 am) alostath3 :Elisha >> why great place to learn? (09:23 am) chinhngo :taco where do i locate moderator box ? (09:23 am) taco :it's the one only ed, mitch joey qwert murano ed's a can post in (09:24 am) chinhngo :most of your guys do not post what you are trade (09:24 am) chinhngo :just watch , monitoring it is hard for me to follow up your trade (09:24 am) taco :if you have a specific question alostath3 just ask (09:25 am) taco :someone will be able to answer you (09:25 am) elisha :because if you follow the moderators calls you will see they have an extremely high success rate. Also - you can ask questions about trading and they are answered. It is helpful to observe at first and you will catch on quickly (09:25 am) Qwert :chin the moderator box is the one above where you see what you type (09:25 am) chinhngo :thank qwert (09:26 am) chinhngo :thank mr ED do you get mad on me ? (09:26 am) shawn3 :is NFLx ToppY? (09:26 am) Ed :not at all chin (09:27 am) Ed :no reason too (09:27 am) Qwert :alostath if we say we are monitoring a symbol it means the idea is not quite ready but possibly close (09:27 am) Qwert :if we say we are watching a symbol it usually means its close to ready (09:28 am) taco :hi shawn how are you doing? (09:29 am) chinhngo :ready what ? long or short why not call out more clearly let said watch long approx 38.00 (09:29 am) shawn3 :Not too shabby Taco (09:29 am) taco :good to hear (09:33 am) Qwert :its hard for me to call direction chin because i try to stay flexible as example the trade could be a reversal or could be continuation. does that make sense? (09:33 am) taco :right qwert, (09:34 am) Qwert :I used to get into trouble with only one sided thinking (09:35 am) chinhngo :ok good point mr qwert or at least you post you traded ? (09:36 am) chinhngo :in this room i only see post good trade on... but ido not see post trade (09:36 am) Ed :chin, sometimes stocks will allow for it, but many times not. When you call out price say 38. One becomes fixated on that number, but its important to understand prices are continous if prices were not it would be easy and you could say buy xyz at 38 but price may continue to 37.91 or 37.12 before setting up for long. And like qwert says it allows for flexibilty (09:37 am) Ed :but not fixating on particular prices. (09:38 am) chinhngo :ok ok mr ed can your guy post what you are traded so i can blind follow up and learn how to read the chart slowly (09:38 am) Ed :EZCH great example from yesterday it dropped from price of 30 all the way down to 23.25 Some that blindly buy based on price level would have been burried trying to buy 30, 29,28,27,26,25,24 (09:38 am) chinhngo :with lost or win will be more experinced and learn more faster do you agreed ? (09:39 am) Ed :I trade price action chin, which means Im focusing on how particular stocks trades around support/resistance levels by reading price, candles and vol (09:40 am) Ed :My way takes more interpretation of the now, but we have all types of traders in room, and Im sure one or all will be some help to yoiu (09:42 am) Qwert :honestly chin i think you will learn slower by following blindly, my opinion is that then you will just focus on following instead of learning (09:44 am) chinhngo :anyway can your guy post what you traded ?thank you very much for this really help (09:45 am) Ed :we do post what we trade Chin, only stock i traded today was ULTA (09:46 am) Ed :the one I mentioned at 9:30 and the 115 level (09:46 am) Ed :9:30est (09:47 am) chinhngo :ulta at premarket went up 14% for beat earning (09:47 am) Ed :as trader I dont acre the news, I trade the action (09:49 am) chinhngo :mr ed yes this is what i like to trade just follow up you please post (09:49 am) chinhngo :i am a snipper just try to make 200.00 and run (09:50 am) Qwert :chin i traded aet, aria, aro, gme, hp, nq, pot and unfi today (09:50 am) chinhngo :so tommorrow i have fun to play with (09:51 am) chinhngo :qwert honstly i did not see your posted at all or may be i misundestood something? (09:51 am) Qwert :i missed entry on ULTA (09:52 am) Qwert :some symbols i posted others were ideas posted by someone else that i liked or happened to quick to post (09:52 am) Qwert :i am old and type slow (09:54 am) chinhngo :this morning i only see mr mitch call out for top akam psx and bottom vrtx (09:54 am) Qwert :i also trade yelp (09:55 am) Ed :we had about 56 calls this monring so its to be expecting you not catch everyone (09:56 am) Qwert :i posted nq, yelp and ipi but liked the action in pot better than ipi so traded it instead (09:56 am) chinhngo :qwert you said yelp work on weakness only (09:58 am) Qwert :all i said about YELP was: monitoring YELP at 7:28pst (09:58 am) chinhngo :qwert you said yelp on weakness so i think this is just see the fact not mean trade to me (09:59 am) chinhngo :please can you post long or shoet on ... thank for that (10:01 am) Ed :just like on this stock VPHM, Im monitoring its halted now, but not sure how I will trade it, as I have to see the price action on it (10:02 am) Qwert :if you look at the post you will see: monitoring YELP, so it could be a reversal or continuation (10:03 am) Ed :I would be crazy to say short it, and more vol comes in to take it even higher, and same could be said for buying it long as soon as it opens. This is wher I rely on price action and allow the action of price/vol and candles to let me know which way I should go with this trade. Im just speaking of how I trade (10:04 am) chinhngo :yes i agreed at least after this what you did with yelp long or short (10:05 am) Qwert :i traded it long based on candle set up but small position beacause really wanted even more of a drop based on the daily chart of YELP (10:05 am) chinhngo :me ed so that why i am here to learn from you and others traders just more clearly (10:06 am) JoeyTSA :trading again (10:07 am) JoeyTSA :welcome to the room alostath (10:08 am) JoeyTSA :thanks Ed :) (10:10 am) Ed :fun using those levels when u get vol coming in (10:10 am) JoeyTSA :yeah, just getting back so i missed the fun (10:19 am) Qwert :Did you get the short joey? (10:19 am) taco :nice call VPHM ed (10:19 am) JoeyTSA :no, didnt chance it (10:21 am) JoeyTSA :you get that qwert? (10:21 am) Qwert :yeah out now tho (10:21 am) JoeyTSA :good job (10:21 am) Qwert :very small position (10:22 am) Qwert :short at 39 out at 37 (10:22 am) taco :beauty (10:22 am) JoeyTSA :gotta love round #'s (10:22 am) Qwert :sorry 37.51 (10:22 am) Ed :nice trading (10:23 am) Qwert :did you get the short Ed i missed the long (10:24 am) Qwert :Ed do you mind sharing long price entry? (10:24 am) Ed :i took it long 36.03, I missed the 35 price (10:24 am) Ed :I was going to post a comment and saw where stock had opened so missed the firs level (10:25 am) Qwert :thx i was posting a response to chin and missed open then was scared to chase hahaha (10:26 am) Ed :Yea I was using stop of 35.98 (10:26 am) Ed :since i was playing the levels, i play it tight (10:27 am) Qwert :okay thx will remember that (10:27 am) Ed :Yes point is too, I did not know which way was going to play even though news was positive, but allowed stock to open and saw how price/vol was actiong then since missed 35 level for entry, next level was 36 (10:28 am) Qwert :did you set a target or just use trading action to get out first 3/4 (10:28 am) Ed :see also, as soon as it opened it held the 35 level, which let me know that sellers could not take price down at that time (10:29 am) Ed :I used trading action (10:29 am) Qwert :right thx (10:31 am) chinhngo :mr mitch gc future buy signal that mean long on nugt ? (10:32 am) Ed :see chin, VPHM is type of stock that due to news it moves so fast that indicators will lag, This is where price action as tremendous advantage, but downside of price action is if ur new it takes while to interpret all factors like price, support/resistance, vol, candles. This is where the advantage is for systems and use of indicators, not that one is better, its all about what is comfortable for the individual (10:34 am) chinhngo :honestly mr ed i do not understand it at all i am just biiner very low trader (10:35 am) chinhngo :biiner = beginer (10:36 am) Ed :the markets accomodates all types of traders, beginner,medium, advanced, and slow, med. speed , and fast. so no worries (10:38 am) taco :the more time i give myself to learn the better it is for me chin, i want to learn fast but i learn better by learning slow too:) (10:39 am) chinhngo :uvxy price touch 50 days and go up it is a good long ? 1 minute chart (10:41 am) chinhngo :14 hours to be on computer read all news research but still no good (10:42 am) taco :but you're better than you were? (10:43 am) chinhngo :a little bit better that why i subcribled many analysist including this chat room (10:44 am) chinhngo :win small but big loss keep buying the loss that is my stupid (10:44 am) Ed :differnece is majority of analyst do not invest and definitley dont trade (10:44 am) chinhngo :now i learn a littla cut loss (10:46 am) chinhngo :how long are you trade mr ed ? (10:46 am) Ed :i bought my first stock when I was 16 (10:46 am) chinhngo :wow (10:47 am) Qwert :and hes only 00 now :) (10:47 am) chinhngo :that why you are soooooo goooood (10:47 am) Qwert :00=99 (10:47 am) JoeyTSA :back when they mailed certificate :) (10:47 am) Ed :lol (10:47 am) taco :haha (10:47 am) Qwert :hahaha (10:47 am) chinhngo :who is youg drivers at your youtupe ? (10:47 am) Ed :Hey Mith use to use chalk board (10:48 am) JoeyTSA :or chalk on a cave wall :) (10:48 am) Ed :both (10:48 am) Qwert :hahaha (10:48 am) taco :i think traders get good because they determine they have to and its not a game (10:49 am) taco :make it life or death (10:49 am) Ed :I agree taco, only thing for me chin when I came to TSA I had ton of bad habits from all the yearts of doing things the wrong (10:49 am) JoeyTSA :and you learn what to focus on, depending on your style (10:49 am) Ed :way (10:50 am) chinhngo :most of them said you can affordable at your porfolio but do not effect to your familly financial (10:50 am) JoeyTSA :for me, i learned not to waste time reading news (10:51 am) chinhngo :the news not important so what will make stock move ? (10:51 am) JoeyTSA :for me news/fundamental analysis is all a waste of tiem (10:51 am) JoeyTSA :people buying/selling is what makes price move (10:51 am) JoeyTSA :i can see that on a chart (10:52 am) chinhngo :i base on news and markets indicators and make decision (10:52 am) chinhngo :i am not do know how to read the chart (10:52 am) JoeyTSA :right, thats your style (10:53 am) JoeyTSA :which goes back to the earlier discussion that i missed (10:53 am) JoeyTSA :some traders try to guess direction stock will go, others let the stock tell them the direction (10:54 am) JoeyTSA :Ed calls is price action (10:54 am) JoeyTSA :is = it (10:55 am) chinhngo :i like your sound joey (10:55 am) chinhngo :but it is hard to read the chart (10:56 am) taco :just like learning to walk chin, it gets easier with practice (10:56 am) alostath3 :i don't have the red or black dots?? (10:56 am) taco :and patience (10:56 am) chinhngo :like sohu is buy bottom ? (10:56 am) JoeyTSA :best way to learn to read charts is spend time looking at them this weekend instead of reading news (10:57 am) JoeyTSA :alostath: not sure what those dots are, think thats on Ed or Diosna's chart (10:57 am) chinhngo :i will take yiour advice joey (10:58 am) Ed :the black dots is 200ema, the red is 200sma (10:58 am) JoeyTSA :ahhh, thanks Ed (10:58 am) Ed :no problem (10:59 am) Qwert :chin you can use replay feature to play back action and practic (11:01 am) alostath3 :to use replay back, i think you should buy some indicators or software?? (11:02 am) Qwert :YOKU moving (11:02 am) JoeyTSA :pretty sure ninja offers replay alo (11:03 am) Qwert :i have not used it ninja but have in esignal (11:03 am) JoeyTSA :i havent used it either actually (11:04 am) JoeyTSA :i started learning chart reading by looking over hundreds of daily charts, trying to pick up patterns (11:05 am) JoeyTSA :easiest site for me was bigcharts.com (11:05 am) Qwert :i just printed out hundreds of charts and then would cover up the right side and reveal 1 candle at a time to practice (11:05 am) JoeyTSA :nice (11:06 am) taco :ya (11:07 am) taco :good boks :technical analysis of the financial markets by murphey (11:07 am) Qwert :i know there is a website that lets you do the same thing but cant remember the name right now (11:07 am) taco :and trading in the zone by douglas (11:07 am) Qwert :i think Ed is the one who told me about it (11:08 am) Qwert :those are both really good books taco have read them both numerous times (11:08 am) JoeyTSA :Ed: did you mention REGN the other day? (11:08 am) Ed :yes (11:08 am) JoeyTSA :up $15 today (11:09 am) Ed :hope someone got it (11:09 am) Qwert :wow i have not seen REGN all day nice move (11:19 am) JoeyTSA :hope things pick up in the next hour (11:24 am) JoeyTSA :thx Mitch, plus pit is closed i believe (11:37 am) JoeyTSA :re:books...the 1st one i read was " Strategies for the Online Day Trader " by Gonzalez and Rhee... (11:38 am) JoeyTSA :a bit outdated due to tech advances, but gave me a decent base to build on (11:39 am) JoeyTSA :i liked it because it actually talked about trading where most books mainly talk about investing (11:56 am) chinhngo :bought uvxy at 34.0 (11:59 am) Qwert :AAPL getting close to low of a couple days ago (12:16 pm) taco :excellent call on /GC Mitch (12:16 pm) JoeyTSA :yeah, great move (12:18 pm) JoeyTSA :just coming up into S2 res (12:25 pm) chinhngo :short 400 nflx at 304.75 (12:42 pm) JoeyTSA :Thanks Mitch,Ed,Diosna,Qwert,everyone (12:42 pm) JoeyTSA :wish you all a great weekend, see you monday (12:42 pm) Ed :c ya joey (12:42 pm) taco :cya joey thanks (12:47 pm) Qwert :bye joey enjoy (12:51 pm) chinhngo :bought d at 61.30 (12:52 pm) Qwert :bye everyone have a great weekend cya all on monday (12:52 pm) taco :c ya Qwert, you too (12:52 pm) chinhngo :see you on monday (12:53 pm) Ed :c ya qwert (12:55 pm) taco :i really like the enhanced signals followed sometimes by cycles a bit lower then on to excellent highs or lows (12:57 pm) taco :thanks Mitch Ed Diosna and everyone, have a great weekend. see you monday! (12:57 pm) Ed :c ya taco
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