Chat Highlights From 09/11/2012

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[06:18 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:28 am] Ed : if we get bounce in COH monitor 61.25 area had issue premarket there
[06:29 am] Ed : CASY had issues with 61 area
[06:32 am] Ed : monitor COH on this bounce for any weakness for potential short
[06:33 am] Ed : no hurry
[06:33 am] Ed : monitoring DNKN
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching PANW for bottom to buy
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching LVS for top to short
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching JAZZ for short
[06:36 am] Ed : monitoring COH for short
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching KORS for bottom to buy
[06:37 am] Mitch K: monitoring TIBX
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching NFLX for bottom to buy
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching PPO for top to short, top of this bounce
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching FSLR for top to short
[06:39 am] Mitch K: monitoring FIVE
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching SON for bottom
[06:40 am] Mitch K: bounce already started with UNFI\
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching UNFI for bounce
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching QIHU for top to short
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching DDD for short soon
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching PVH for short top of this bounce soon
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching RRC for top to short
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching CLF for short
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching CNI for short
[06:45 am] Ed : covering 3/4 COH short
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching SIG for top to short
[06:47 am] Mitch K: missed CIE bottom but watching for top to short, prob over 23
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching GMCR for short
[06:52 am] Mitch K: consider selling PANW if long
[06:54 am] Mitch K: RRC toppy
[06:58 am] Mitch K: watching AXP for microshort, best to watch for awhile
[07:00 am] Mitch K: consider selling NFLX if long
[07:01 am] Mitch K: consider selling KORS if long
[07:02 am] Mitch K: consider covering NFLX if short
[07:03 am] Mitch K: monitoring EGHT
[07:07 am] Mitch K: consider covering JAZZ
[07:08 am] Mitch K: more downside for GMCR
[07:09 am] Mitch K: its like baby bullshort
[07:09 am] Mitch K: remember GMCR has been a stock that wallstreet has been shorting heavily and had only a spike recently in the last 3 days.  lot more selling pressure on GMCR
[07:13 am] Mitch K: consider covering LVS if short
[07:15 am] Mitch K: watch UNFI for short on top of this bounce
[07:15 am] Mitch K: consider reducing UNFI if short
[07:16 am] Mitch K: watching KORS for 2nd bounce for long
[07:25 am] Ed : nice bounce inSINA
[07:34 am] Mitch K: watching for small short on top of PANW bounce
[07:35 am] Mitch K: consider covering GMCR
[07:36 am] Mitch K: consider covering DDD soon
[07:37 am] Mitch K: watching ROK for bottom to buy
[07:38 am] Mitch K: monitoring EOG
[07:38 am] Mitch K: looking for $55 area on UNFI short
[07:39 am] Mitch K: little better movememnt today but fewer stocks.  i prefer todays action over yesterday.  Bigger volatility is better for profit potential as opposed to more ideas with lower profit potential
[07:40 am] Mitch K: UA could bounce for 35-40 cents if this double bottom holds
[07:40 am] Mitch K: sounds like I just wrote CHinese confucious
[07:41 am] Mitch K: FIVE bouncing, prob too late
[07:44 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[07:47 am] Ed : monitoring MWW
[07:49 am] Ed : reducing 3/4 MWW long
[07:50 am] Ed : placing stop that is
[07:50 am] Ed : placing last 1/4 MWW long 7.71
[07:53 am] Mitch K: PANW turning over nicely, should get under $68
[07:56 am] Ed : monitoring CASY for more selling for setup for potenital long
[08:15 am] Ed : out all MWW long
[08:25 am] Ed : MLNX on the move
[08:32 am] Ed : if u took MLNX long would reduce
[08:32 am] Ed : i u took MLNX long would reduce
[08:34 am] Mitch K: no buy signal to cover UNFI short
[08:34 am] Mitch K: KORS toppy, consider selling if long
[08:36 am] Mitch K: this is UNFI short
[08:36 am] Ed : if u reversed and went short on MLNX would cover
[08:37 am] Mitch K: apple, status is 2 weeks, should have it for you.  working good
[08:37 am] Mitch K: 1 min chartr on MLNX
[08:37 am] Mitch K: 2min chart on MLNX
[08:38 am] Mitch K: buy signal to cover UNFI short
[08:38 am] Mitch K: i will show you guys how to use this tool
[08:39 am] Mitch K: this will be beta version 1, will be another version to follow as improvements are made.  really good tool though already
[08:40 am] Mitch K: crude oil here
[08:44 am] Mitch K: what i suggest you do, and i will show you in a webinar, is match your personality and skill level with the instrument you want to trade
[08:44 am] Mitch K: here is even a Treasury Bond trade just signaled a buy to cover
[08:45 am] Mitch K: yes need Ninja Trader platform to display system
[08:45 am] Mitch K: something like this trade here, low maintenace, 60-90 minute hold times, you can do other stuff
[08:46 am] Mitch K: again, if you are making money doing what ou are doing now, make sure you transition slowly into new system, new procedures because you want to preserve your current profitable strategy.  dont change quickly all of a sudden
[08:47 am] Mitch K: another mistake i think is to get overconfident with this tool and build big positions before you really are proficient with this tool.  its like changing aircraft, different procedures, flies different speeds, must get used to it first
[08:48 am] Mitch K: plan on taking at least 3-4 weeks getting used to this before you make real money trades
[08:51 am] Mitch K: instruments = stocks, forex, futures
[08:51 am] Mitch K: like i was saying, different instruments have different behavior and hold times.  i like to have a couple slower moving positions that i dont have to worry about and take 1-2 hours to mature, and then have some faster moving instruments as well.  you dont want to have a lot of super fast instruments all at once, hard to handle unless you have worked with this a lot
[08:52 am] Mitch K: that took about 1 hour 55 minutes
[08:52 am] Mitch K: German DAX, which is their index
[08:52 am] Mitch K: here is a slower moving one, just finished
[08:53 am] Mitch K: this is FCS, not sure why i didnt post, been looking at it since 12 min after opening
[08:55 am] Mitch K: look down lower left of chart
[08:55 am] Mitch K: here is UNFI from early call to watch for long
[08:57 am] Mitch K: you can take the original short which would be 3 trades on same stock which is max i would take consecutively on a stock
[08:57 am] Mitch K: now make sure you understand this and i will repeat in webinar, on these stocks we see in first hour, you only take 1-2 trades on them, don't keep trading the signals because the movement in the stock wont continue, only looking for the 1st and 2nd trade
[08:58 am] Mitch K: there are about 1-3 stocks a day you can take multiple trades throughout the day but not many
[08:59 am] Mitch K: dont keep taking signals from same stock
[08:59 am] Mitch K: see that red line trade?
[08:59 am] Mitch K: so you want to think like a hit and run guerilla warefare fighter
[09:00 am] Mitch K: you can take 1 to 2 trades on that stock and thats it.
[09:00 am] Mitch K: mike, ive been going through this for 6 weeks on stocks, you take the signal in first hour IF you see these big movers.
[09:01 am] Mitch K: you remember the homeless charts?
[09:01 am] Mitch K: repeat:  with stocks you want to see a big move
[09:02 am] Mitch K: repeat after me
[09:02 am] Mitch K: when stocks go flat, you dont take the signal
[09:03 am] Mitch K: post 5 bad charts
[09:03 am] Mitch K: you guys find more homeless charts so we get this understood very clearly when to use this tool and when to avoid
[09:03 am] Mitch K: right mike
[09:03 am] Mitch K: you should get setup with ninja soon and get datafeed through Kinetick, which is owned by Ninjatrader.
[09:04 am] Mitch K: imprint this in your brain to avoid taking any trades with any system at any time
[09:04 am] Ed : had
[09:04 am] Ed : MWW has nice movement now flat
[09:04 am] Mitch K: homeless #1 here
[09:05 am] Ed : CASY    MWW no trades now
[09:05 am] Mitch K: mike, are you getting this?
[09:05 am] Mitch K: FRAN as khall posted = no trades
[09:06 am] Mitch K: mike come in over
[09:07 am] Mitch K: does everyone understand what to avoid?
[09:08 am] Mitch K: when you see a big move made and you missed it, the odds are high the next signal will be a good trade
[09:09 am] Mitch K: this is GOOD
[09:09 am] Mitch K: mike please respond so you dont have problems later
[09:10 am] Mitch K: imprint this into your brain, this is what you want
[09:10 am] Mitch K: why is this good?  anyone answer
[09:11 am] Mitch K: notice this pattern often repeats
[09:11 am] Mitch K: same thing with stocks that are flat, usually they continue to be flat
[09:11 am] Mitch K: after big move, another good move, then with futures and forex, often times that pattern continues
[09:17 am] Mitch K: mike this is Russell 2000, you can trade this too
[09:18 am] Mitch K: when you see something like this, the odds are very very high the next signal will be worth opening a position or closing
[09:18 am] Mitch K: mike did you understand what i was showing you?
[09:19 am] Mitch K: no, dont trade this symbol, there is a leveraged etf or index futures symbol for this shark
[09:19 am] Mitch K: you want to see big moves or a stock that has been giving that or an instrument like futures
[09:20 am] Mitch K: please still use common sense
[09:21 am] Mitch K: was short signal from 834am pacific time
[09:21 am] Mitch K: ES chart Rusty,
[09:21 am] Mitch K: but good question
[09:21 am] Mitch K: regatta, good question, i think you can take a signal a couple candles past the signal, maybe 3  but depends upon how much it moved in those 3 candles and what the pattern of movement has been
[09:22 am] Ed : nice buy on CL 12:18 est
[09:22 am] Mitch K: now regatta, dont take a signal this late, lol!  its almost over
[09:23 am] Mitch K: that is a 2 min chart you see here on ES
[09:23 am] Mitch K: will go through later
[09:23 am] Mitch K: there are different time intervals for different instruments or stocks
[09:23 am] Mitch K: this is example of slow moving, long hold times that are good to have maybe 1 or 2 of those and then trade other faster moving stocks or instruments in addition
[09:24 am] Mitch K: common sense and experience tells me look for about 70.50 area but be flexible
[09:24 am] Mitch K: got a buy signal on 1 min of RRC, but not on 2 min yet
[09:24 am] Mitch K: RRC chart
[09:25 am] Mitch K: try not to be overconfident, just focus on learning how to use different tool, will be better but you have to manage your expectations, emotions
[09:26 am] Mitch K: i got to take this down so i can work with it,  if you guys want this in 2 weeks, i have to spend hours with programmer ok?
[09:27 am] Mitch K: ok, last comment, this is NUAN.  when you see this spike, i rarely try to buy these long, losing odds, best to wait for top and get reversal going down on short
[09:28 am] Mitch K: ask joeytsa about odds, he plays then in horses.  bad odds to try to buy long something spiking like NUAN
[09:28 am] Mitch K: let's just focus on getting the low hanging fruit, the easiest trades and not get real cute, which usually means stupid
[09:29 am] Mitch K: ok, guys, i got to work on this, talk later
[09:30 am] Mitch K: oh mike, didnt mean to pick on you, just wanted to grill it into your head.  im kind of a tough coach sometimes
[09:31 am] Mitch K: ok let me show you this one last chart, promise, last one.  followup on RRC
[09:31 am] Mitch K: your RRC bouncing nicely
[09:32 am] Mitch K: small profits, ok to take now, mid day trading
[09:32 am] Mitch K: we are into microtrade time now
[09:32 am] Mitch K: about 15-18 min ago
[09:32 am] Mitch K: This was posted by Mike, RRC earlier
[09:54 am] Ed : nice pullback in SPY
[10:19 am] Ed : getting bounce inSPY
[10:36 am] Ed : fyi keep an eye on BPT aslo, been consolidating last 7 days. The longer the better
[10:37 am] Ed : the longer the consolidation the better that is, but we dont want to miss when it breaks, we dont care the direction
[10:52 am] Ed : if they can push EXPE to 55ish area would monitor see how price reacts to that area
[10:53 am] Ed : nice one qwert on TIBX
[11:08 am] Mitch K: you want to see the Lightning chart?  what were your entries and exits on TIBX
[11:08 am] Ed : if u took TIBX short would cover
[11:09 am] Mitch K: qwert, thats for you
[11:09 am] Mitch K: give entry and exit times too
[11:11 am] Mitch K: and im old
[11:11 am] Mitch K: i beat you eddy
[11:11 am] Mitch K: you mean covered 31.65?
[11:12 am] Mitch K: let me show you and i go back into my hole and work
[11:12 am] Mitch K: ok very typical pattern, entries are easier to get, exits is where you make the money
[11:13 am] Mitch K: he has better entry, Lighting usually has better exit
[11:13 am] Mitch K: this is TIBX, reviewing Qwert
[11:14 am] Mitch K: to SELL and cover at 31.32
[11:14 am] Mitch K: was alerted at 31.75
[11:15 am] Mitch K: to cover so thats 43 cents.  you made 35 cents vs. 43
[11:16 am] Mitch K: ok good man qwert,its slow moving now, TIBX.  talk to ou guys later, going back into my hole as mad scientist
[11:18 am] Mitch K: i use the next signal as the stop.  real change in procedures but you dont give up as much money
[11:18 am] Mitch K: qwert, just got a buy signal on TIBX, fyi
[11:19 am] Mitch K: i think you guys should practice some video games to practice moving mouse quickly and efficiently,
[11:19 am] Mitch K: you dont give back so much profit
[11:31 am] Ed : would monitor CRM for continuation move 2morrow breakout with strong vol 152.39
[11:32 am] Ed : it must have STRONG vol
[11:32 am] Ed : would use 152.80 if ur looking for swing
[11:47 am] Ed : monitor WFM see if we get continued weakness 2morrow
[11:50 am] Ed : nice drop inSPY
[11:50 am] Mitch K: should bounce a little, microtrade long
[11:50 am] Mitch K: you might watch FDS here
[12:13 pm] Ed : just monitoring EQIX
[12:22 pm] Ed : sold my swing in AMZN plus 15 points. I mentioned in room also what I was looking for on breakolut
[12:23 pm] Mitch K: good job eddy money
[12:32 pm] Mitch K: later shark eyes
[12:35 pm] Mitch K: i think Ed traded this
[12:35 pm] Mitch K: this is MWW from earlier
[12:36 pm] Mitch K: this is at open that rise
[12:36 pm] Mitch K: how did you trade COH ed?
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: later horseman
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: if you guys think there is going to be a short lasting a lot of the day you change the time interval to longer one
[12:37 pm] Ed : shorted at 9:37est
[12:37 pm] Ed : I shorted it, missed the long at open
[12:38 pm] Mitch K: this is 5 min char ton COH
[12:39 pm] Mitch K: ed you were wondering about EQIX as a short
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: [06:47 am] Mitch K: missed CIE bottom but watching for top to short, prob over 23
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: i brought up CIE earlier this morning
[12:43 pm] Mitch K: you guys know how negative CLF has been in last  several weeks.  and then it bounced.  its a real good stock to watch for shorts again on day trades that last for hours.  remember tomorrow to watch CLF on longer time interval chart
[12:43 pm] Ed : not enough time for CIG
[12:44 pm] Mitch K: but having power supply problems
[12:44 pm] Mitch K: i am a random access chip trying to reset
[12:44 pm] Mitch K: ed will remind us because his brain is memory chip.
[12:46 pm] Mitch K: nice moves like on KORS and CIG but no time to do anything with it
[12:59 pm] Ed : have a great evenig traders

[06:04 am] eyes  : Good Morning Everyone
[06:05 am] mikewd2 -: good morning traders
[06:09 am] qwert  : Good morning everybody
[06:10 am] aussie123  : Good morning from Phoenix
[06:11 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Ed, everyone
[06:12 am] joeytsa  : Trade balance came in better than expected, IBD/TIPP economic outlook at 7pdt
[06:13 am] aussie123  : Joey  I parlayed our beloved Redskins with the Broncos .......My first winner in a month of Sundays...RG III is the real deal.
[06:13 am] joeytsa  : nice money :)
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : gap up: SNSS,GMCR
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : gap down: UNFI,COH,PANW
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : also watching FSLR,MLNX,FRAN
[06:17 am] ben4givn  : good morning from New Orleans
[06:18 am] qwert  : gm Ed
[06:19 am] joeytsa  : ES up about 10pts from overnight lows
[06:19 am] shark  : gm Ed, everyone
[06:21 am] victor51  : Gm all
[06:21 am] khall  : good morning all
[06:21 am] aussie123  : The ECB charter stipulates ... they can not buy soverien bonds from individual countrys...therefor the will buy from a third party such as Barclays..GS etc. Should be really big money for the banks
[06:22 am] joeytsa  : thx aussie
[06:24 am] khall  : watching CASY - up 7% premarket
[06:27 am] apple  : good morning to all respectful traders, memory of 9/11
[06:27 am] joeytsa  : Never Forget
[06:27 am] khall  : gm apple
[06:27 am] apple  : gm khall
[06:27 am] apple  : gm joey
[06:28 am] apple  : gm shart
[06:28 am] apple  : gm qwert
[06:28 am] apple  : gm aussie
[06:28 am] apple  : gm victor
[06:28 am] qwert  : gm apple
[06:28 am] apple  : gm mike
[06:28 am] apple  : gm E
[06:28 am] qwert  : thx ed
[06:28 am] apple  : gm eyes, how are you
[06:28 am] mikewd2 -: hi apple
[06:29 am] joeytsa  : CASY on traded 12k so far too
[06:29 am] joeytsa  : ES pulling back b4 the bell
[06:32 am] joeytsa  : GMCR might be running out of steam?..just watching
[06:35 am] joeytsa  : watching 1429 area for ES support
[06:36 am] joeytsa  : tighten FSLR if long
[06:36 am] rusty  : covered 1/2 PPHM +.5
[06:37 am] apple  : nice move on COH
[06:37 am] apple  : gm rusty
[06:38 am] rusty  : gm
[06:39 am] joeytsa  : watching YUM
[06:40 am] aussie123  : TNA L @ 62.07???
[06:42 am] khall  : watching MJN
[06:43 am] chinhngo  : short lvs at 44.22
[06:44 am] mikewd2 -: LULU
[06:44 am] mikewd2 -: VRTX
[06:44 am] shark  : AAPL new lod
[06:45 am] qwert  : Thx for COH ed
[06:49 am] rusty  : CTIC on watch
[06:49 am] rusty  : based on daily chart
[06:51 am] mikewd2 -: RRC for top
[06:51 am] mikewd2 -: resistance at 70
[06:51 am] joeytsa  : nice one mike
[06:53 am] apple  : ES moving over 1434 now
[06:53 am] joeytsa  : watching RAX
[06:53 am] chinhngo  : short rrc at 69.88
[06:55 am] shark  : CMG weeklys run out at $340 :(
[06:55 am] shark  : strike price
[06:59 am] apple  : :(
[06:59 am] chinhngo  : buy cover  rrc thank mr mitch
[06:59 am] chinhngo  : buy cover lvs
[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: FOSL bouncing off pivot
[07:00 am] rusty  : SNCR radar
[07:01 am] shark  : thx, Mitch
[07:01 am] shark  : +.25 KORS
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: watching MLNX
[07:03 am] mikewd2 -: looking to add to RRC short
[07:03 am] chinhngo  : short axp at 57.35
[07:03 am] joeytsa  : IBD/TIPP report came in better than expected
[07:03 am] khall  : thanks joey
[07:03 am] joeytsa  : 51.8 vs 47.3
[07:03 am] apple  : thx joey
[07:04 am] qwert  : monitoring SWI
[07:04 am] mikewd2 -: RRC S 69.99
[07:04 am] shark  : GOOG new lod
[07:04 am] joeytsa  : watching ALSN for bottom
[07:05 am] qwert  : volume really low on SWI
[07:05 am] shark  : short $720 weekly GOOG, since yesterday
[07:06 am] apple  : now you tell me!  good for you shark
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : RRC dbl top at $70
[07:06 am] mikewd2 -: shorted both tops joey
[07:06 am] shark  : :)
[07:07 am] joeytsa  : of course you did
[07:07 am] apple  : good one mike
[07:07 am] joeytsa  : probably b4 the top hit hahaha
[07:07 am] joeytsa  : good trading mike
[07:07 am] qwert  : nice mike
[07:08 am] joeytsa  : keeping FDS on the radar
[07:09 am] joeytsa  : EW trying to hold $106
[07:09 am] mikewd2 -: nice breakout on FDS joey
[07:10 am] joeytsa  : yeah, didnt see it until a few minutes ago though
[07:10 am] joeytsa  : RRC to test $70 again?
[07:10 am] mikewd2 -: yeah getting worried now, consolidation
[07:10 am] apple  : thx for info MK
[07:11 am] joeytsa  : dbl top was on neg div
[07:11 am] rusty  : covered 2/3 PPHM +.7 sbh
[07:11 am] rusty  : avg
[07:12 am] shark  : :)
[07:12 am] mikewd2 -: nice move on CJES today
[07:12 am] apple  : nice one rusty
[07:14 am] skydiver  : UNFI - a bit late
[07:15 am] qwert  : RRC pop
[07:15 am] rusty  : CTIC hod
[07:15 am] aussie123  : Out TNA @ 63.11...+1.04
[07:16 am] apple  : hey sky
[07:16 am] skydiver  : monitoring CRM
[07:16 am] skydiver  : gm apple
[07:16 am] skydiver  : eye on KORS too :)
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : WFM trying to bottom
[07:19 am] joeytsa  : ES pivots 1430,1434.25..right now 1433 decent support past 20 minutes or so
[07:19 am] skydiver  : UNFI - still in L   54.66
[07:20 am] khall  : way to go sky
[07:20 am] skydiver  : moving stop up on UNFI
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : nice sky, UNFI bounced right off the pivot
[07:22 am] skydiver  : 3/4 out of UNFI 55.25 L
[07:22 am] rusty  : CTIC pulling back
[07:25 am] shark  : GOOG bounce
[07:26 am] joeytsa  : yeah Ed, didnt even look at SINA today
[07:27 am] skydiver  : trailing stop on UNFI L
[07:27 am] joeytsa  : keep working those pedals sky :)
[07:27 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:29 am] shark  : LULU drop
[07:29 am] khall  : KORS bouncing
[07:30 am] skydiver  : all out of UNFI L - have to leave early for a meeting  :(    See you  all tomorrow !!! Make lots of $$$ :)
[07:30 am] Ed : c ya sky
[07:30 am] shark  : bye sky
[07:31 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:31 am] qwert  : cya sky
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : bye sky
[07:32 am] apple  : have fun sky
[07:32 am] qwert  : GMCR testing 31
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : tight ES range
[07:32 am] khall  : see you later sky
[07:34 am] apple  : nice drop on WFM
[07:35 am] mikewd2 -: SHLD
[07:36 am] apple  : thx mike
[07:37 am] scalpman  : PXP broken out..
[07:37 am] joeytsa  : tighten PANW if long
[07:40 am] aussie123  : Any thoughts on UA
[07:40 am] shark  : haha
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : UA in a 60cent range
[07:40 am] aussie123  : thanks Joe
[07:41 am] joeytsa  : like Mitch said, it could bounce to 58.80
[07:41 am] joeytsa  : too tight for me though
[07:42 am] mikewd2 -: EXPE trying to bounce
[07:44 am] mikewd2 -: WFT just doesn't want to get above 13
[07:44 am] rusty  : PXP radar
[07:44 am] mikewd2 -: WFT riding 12.85 pivot
[07:45 am] apple  : thx rusty
[07:45 am] mikewd2 -: SHLD still weak
[07:51 am] eyes  : long 7.76 out half 1% secnd half 2%
[07:51 am] mikewd2 -: very nice eyes
[07:53 am] mikewd2 -: if we had patience, that would be the only type of reversals we would play
[07:53 am] Ed : my fav, the faster it moves the bette
[07:53 am] mikewd2 -: yep, brents 3min fades
[07:53 am] apple  : i agree, E, get in and get out, NEXT!
[07:54 am] Ed : I always asked how in the world could he trade it on 3min
[07:54 am] Ed : I have to have 1min
[07:54 am] Ed : matter of preference
[07:54 am] Ed : guess when I get old like Mitch I will use 3min on those
[07:55 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, that one would have been a bit harder to catch good entry on 3min fade play
[07:55 am] apple  : i also like the 5 min to calm things down tho, as well as 3
[07:56 am] rusty  : CTIC coming to papa
[08:02 am] eyes  : How are you Apple
[08:05 am] mikewd2 -: MCP moving a bit
[08:05 am] apple  : great eyes, been studying and on vacation at the beach
[08:06 am] shark  : :)
[08:07 am] apple  : JOY had a nice move today
[08:11 am] mikewd2 -: CLF
[08:17 am] apple  : thx mike
[08:18 am] joeytsa  : mike: did you play EXPE..not a bad move up
[08:19 am] mikewd2 -: no just watched
[08:19 am] joeytsa  : gotya
[08:20 am] mikewd2 -: WLT consolidating?
[08:20 am] joeytsa  : looks like it, having issues at res
[08:21 am] joeytsa  : break thru should get it to $36 though
[08:21 am] mikewd2 -: out some CJES daytrade
[08:23 am] apple  : ES 1436
[08:24 am] apple  : nice drop on LULU today
[08:24 am] apple  : MK thx for mentioning EUrUSD yesterday, nice movement
[08:25 am] mikewd2 -: MLNX
[08:25 am] apple  : thx mike
[08:26 am] mikewd2 -: WLT starting to move above consolidation
[08:27 am] eyes  : Nice on MWW ED
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: CLF S
[08:28 am] khall  : CRM at 150 resistance
[08:30 am] shark  : MLNX held 50 day area well
[08:30 am] apple  : thx khall
[08:30 am] khall  : welcome
[08:32 am] mikewd2 -: out half MLNX +2.00
[08:32 am] mikewd2 -: RRC
[08:32 am] Ed : cant spell right
[08:32 am] mikewd2 -: all out MLNX +2.50 2nd half
[08:32 am] khall  : way to go mike
[08:33 am] apple  : thx E
[08:33 am] apple  : great job mike
[08:34 am] Ed : sweet prune juice
[08:34 am] khall  : ha ha
[08:35 am] mikewd2 -: MLNX S 104.66
[08:35 am] apple  : whatever you like E
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: starting to like these 100 stocks
[08:36 am] Ed : i likey the plus 3 on long
[08:36 am] apple  : nice
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: looking for 120.2 PP on short
[08:37 am] apple  : nice MK -- what is the status of Lightning?
[08:38 am] rusty  : NEPT radar based on daily chart
[08:38 am] shark  : YEAAHHHH :)
[08:38 am] apple  : thx rusty
[08:38 am] apple  : great, thx MK
[08:39 am] apple  : i see it has changed with the little diamond below... looks great
[08:40 am] khall  : apple, you missed some really nice demos while you were gone...
[08:40 am] qwert  : is the diamond where the price was when the signal was generated?
[08:40 am] apple  : of course!!!   oh, well
[08:40 am] apple  : beautiful MK!
[08:40 am] khall  : LOL - you'll like it, trust us
[08:41 am] shark  : SPY toppy
[08:42 am] apple  : i am very excited about it -- looks like fun!
[08:45 am] scalpman  : Mitch....we will need Ninja Trader to work with this tool. Right?
[08:45 am] victor51  : Thanks Joey for CIE. Do you think it may reach 22??
[08:46 am] eddy  : we need to open an account with ninja or just use data feed?
[08:46 am] joeytsa  : victor: i dont even remember calling CIE
[08:47 am] Ed : just use data feed eddy
[08:47 am] eddy  : k just tell us exactly what to buy as data feed
[08:47 am] eddy  : will do so this week so we are ready for the launch
[08:47 am] Ed : we will go over that also
[08:48 am] eddy  : k
[08:48 am] mikewd2 -: ninja supports several brokers for data stream provider.
[08:48 am] apple  : hey eddy how are you
[08:48 am] Ed : i think eddy is opening acct. now with TS
[08:48 am] rusty  : ninja work with apex (penson)?
[08:48 am] eddy  : so we wait dont do anything until we hear from u mitch and ed
[08:48 am] eddy  : im fine apple long time
[08:48 am] apple  : good
[08:48 am] shark  : is that the lightning seminar listed for Sep 22-25?
[08:49 am] Ed : right eddy
[08:49 am] Ed : although some are getting it now to have leg up, but even if u wait u will be fine as everyone will get training same time
[08:49 am] apple  : am i missing some info -- was there an email
[08:50 am] apple  : not sure how to use ninja with TS
[08:50 am] joeytsa  : shark: i think that is still last years
[08:50 am] shark  : thx, joey
[08:50 am] Ed : does not work well with Tradestation apple
[08:50 am] joeytsa  : mike: MLXN dbl top at $105
[08:51 am] apple  : yeah, that was joey -- because we went to disney on the 26th mon.
[08:51 am] rusty  : Anyone know if Ninja works with Apex (Penson)?
[08:51 am] apple  : agree MK
[08:51 am] apple  : don't know rusty
[08:51 am] victor51  : Ed, so what's best alternate to TS users
[08:52 am] khall  : rusty, Ninja has a list of brokers they work with on the website
[08:52 am] mikewd2 -: yes joey, in 2nd short oN MLNX
[08:52 am] apple  : nice one MK
[08:53 am] joeytsa  : rusty: Ninja works with Apex Futures..not sure if thats the same
[08:53 am] Ed : Im in same scenario victor, so just get the ninja platform with data feed
[08:54 am] shark  : nice Mitch, what does double green arrow, mean?
[08:54 am] joeytsa  : buy buy  haha
[08:54 am] apple  : MK don't leave us out!  nice chart on FCS
[08:54 am] apple  : shark - buy more!
[08:54 am] joeytsa  : http://www.ninjatrader.com/partners
[08:54 am] shark  : lol
[08:55 am] Ed : but no worries victor we will have time to go over those scenarios
[08:55 am] mikewd2 -: covered 2nd short on MLNX
[08:55 am] joeytsa  : nice going mike
[08:55 am] apple  : ok, no worries, be happy
[08:56 am] apple  : good job mike
[08:56 am] rusty  : ty
[08:56 am] mikewd2 -: 1 long, 2 shorts 3/3 on MLNX - 6/7 yesterday on it
[08:56 am] apple  : fantastic, mike
[08:57 am] khall  : great trading mike
[08:57 am] khall  : got it
[08:57 am] shark  : SWEEEEET ;)
[08:57 am] victor51  : Thanks Ed. Any idea how much does it cost
[08:57 am] apple  : that is what i figured anyway on Lightning, MK
[08:58 am] victor51  : Mike, You know MLNX inside out
[08:58 am] mikewd2 -: haha - what do they do?
[08:58 am] khall  : they make you money :-)
[08:58 am] apple  : lol, right!
[08:58 am] mikewd2 -: oh yeah
[08:58 am] apple  : million dollar question
[08:58 am] joeytsa  : who cares what they do
[08:59 am] apple  : which is always the case MK
[08:59 am] mikewd2 -: that's the point
[08:59 am] joeytsa  : i dont even look at the name of the company haha
[08:59 am] apple  : like joey...
[08:59 am] shark  : nice run on LULU off bottom
[08:59 am] apple  : agree shark
[08:59 am] shark  : KORS too
[08:59 am] mikewd2 -: doji : missed his UVXY bounce
[08:59 am] apple  : oh well
[08:59 am] shark  : i leave too much $$ on table
[08:59 am] scalpman  : When is the Webinar...is there information on the Website...?
[08:59 am] Ed : cost will vary victor, depends if one has futures acct. hooked up via ninja, good thing is I think  cost could be as low as 50 per month. But we will go over all that
[08:59 am] apple  : yes, it is weak
[08:59 am] mikewd2 -: but how did we know that when we got the green arrow, Mitch?
[09:00 am] mikewd2 -: easy after the fact
[09:00 am] mikewd2 -: understand
[09:00 am] eddy  : mike doji is not here
[09:01 am] victor51  : Ed, Any date for the webinar
[09:01 am] mikewd2 -: i know, on business trip for 2 weeks
[09:01 am] apple  : he knows eddy
[09:01 am] eddy  : i took part of the uvxy bounce got out early though
[09:01 am] scalpman  : ED...where is the Webiner information???
[09:01 am] scalpman  : Webinar
[09:01 am] Ed : Mitch will let us know
[09:01 am] apple  : those are the moves we like!
[09:01 am] Ed : nothing has been set for webinar date as of today
[09:02 am] khall  : yes, I remember the homeless charts - the ones that we don't trade
[09:02 am] scalpman  : I assume we should be setting up our Ninja system now then...or do we just watch first?
[09:02 am] apple  : we see that.... the same in a regular candlestick chart - consolidation...
[09:03 am] apple  : NOT GOOD!!!!
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: don't trade choppy stocks
[09:03 am] Ed : great question though Mike, its like after u have esxtreme volatility, stock gives couple good moves then volatility goes flat
[09:04 am] mikewd2 -: still in CLF short, thinking of covering here
[09:04 am] eddy  : im confused ...we get the subscription fir kinetic now or wait for the webinar
[09:04 am] khall  : FRAN
[09:04 am] khall  : homeless today
[09:04 am] Ed : Mitch just mentioned get it soon
[09:04 am] apple  : CRAP
[09:04 am] mikewd2 -: out CLF short,
[09:07 am] khall  : yes
[09:08 am] shark  : yes
[09:08 am] apple  : uhh, i think so!!!
[09:08 am] apple  : agree
[09:09 am] apple  : nice on YM
[09:09 am] Ed : i like her
[09:10 am] shark  : missed my WMT short :(
[09:10 am] apple  : beautiful
[09:10 am] victor51  : Mike, I missed it. How do you know not enter before it goes flat
[09:10 am] khall  : it's not homeless - LOL
[09:10 am] shark  : PCLN new hod :)
[09:10 am] apple  : nice pattern good longs and small shorts
[09:10 am] eddy  : but how can we know it will not be good?
[09:11 am] joeytsa  : there isnt 100% success in trading
[09:11 am] apple  : eddy follow the arrows and look at the length of the move
[09:11 am] joeytsa  : still have to no how to trade
[09:11 am] joeytsa  : know
[09:11 am] Ed : a trader wants  VOLATILITY, NICE BIG MOVEMENTS, NICE RANGE in trading instrument
[09:11 am] shark  : :)
[09:11 am] apple  : yup
[09:12 am] eddy  : uvxy moving
[09:13 am] Ed : like good rule if stock is 70 or less u want  minimum of 2 point range of movement. As example
[09:13 am] mikewd2 -: RRC
[09:14 am] Ed : u can use that based on prevoous day or average daily range
[09:15 am] mikewd2 -: nice drop in russell 2000
[09:15 am] apple  : atr - average true range
[09:16 am] Ed : course thats my preference
[09:16 am] apple  : it's a great rule to follow E
[09:17 am] apple  : nice on RRC
[09:18 am] apple  : like that MK
[09:18 am] Ed : that really nice
[09:18 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[09:19 am] shark  : you trade it from RUT symbol?
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: out some TZA 14.62 out 14.82
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: TNA or TZA shark
[09:19 am] rusty  : IWM or futures
[09:19 am] apple  : it's just a matter of getting used to seeing these patterns swathed in color
[09:19 am] regatta  : mitch, newbie question, if we miss the first signal we need to b patient and wait for next move
[09:19 am] shark  : thx, rusty
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: TNA and TZa are 3x russell
[09:20 am] joeytsa  : rusty: do you trade the RF?
[09:20 am] shark  : ok, Mitch
[09:20 am] joeytsa  : or TF
[09:20 am] apple  : we try
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: RRC still selling off
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: from high
[09:20 am] rusty  : not usually mostly ES and YM
[09:21 am] joeytsa  : gotya, wasnt sure if you did the russell's
[09:21 am] apple  : nice signals on ES MK
[09:22 am] regatta  : that would be trading what i want and not what i see
[09:23 am] regatta  : the few candle after signal would be on a 1 min chart vs 2 min right?
[09:24 am] mikewd2 -: needed more patience in CLF short
[09:24 am] aussie123  : Looks like shooting fish in a barrel!!!!
[09:24 am] shark  : shhhhh
[09:25 am] aussie123  : Sorry Shark
[09:25 am] shark  : loose lips sink ships, aussie123
[09:25 am] shark  : ;)
[09:25 am] apple  : haha
[09:25 am] mikewd2 -: COH was a nice short call, didn't take it
[09:25 am] aussie123  : lol
[09:26 am] apple  : next time mike
[09:26 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, too many good plays today
[09:26 am] murano  : NUAN
[09:26 am] apple  : hey murano how are you
[09:27 am] shark  : ok, Mitch
[09:27 am] shark  : Thxxx
[09:27 am] regatta  : thanks for the info
[09:27 am] apple  : thanks MK - appreciate it
[09:27 am] murano  : I'm good,  back fromvacation
[09:27 am] apple  : me too
[09:28 am] apple  : agree
[09:28 am] shark  : h murano
[09:28 am] rusty  : NUAN radar
[09:29 am] joeytsa  : bye Mitch, thanks..and yes, odds are important
[09:29 am] apple  : keep the odds in your favor
[09:30 am] qwert  : thx mitch
[09:30 am] joeytsa  : odds vs expectations
[09:30 am] apple  : yup
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: no problem Mitch, appreciate it
[09:31 am] qwert  : yes thx for RRC mitch
[09:32 am] apple  : thx MK
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: miss YOKU today and yesterday, nice moves off bottoms
[09:34 am] apple  : thx mike
[09:35 am] joeytsa  : CLMT 60cent drop
[09:35 am] joeytsa  : not big vol though
[09:35 am] apple  : next time mike!
[09:37 am] joeytsa  : shark: iphone5 release tomorrow?
[09:37 am] shark  : YESSS
[09:37 am] apple  : i think so
[09:37 am] joeytsa  : figures, i just got the 4 a few months back haha
[09:37 am] shark  : also seeing pix of mini ipad
[09:37 am] apple  : you getting one joey
[09:38 am] apple  : need to upgrade!
[09:38 am] joeytsa  : actually have the 4s
[09:38 am] shark  : well don't get the 5 without expecting a 6 down the road, joey
[09:38 am] shark  : ;)
[09:38 am] joeytsa  : i wont get a new one until this one breaks
[09:38 am] apple  : wait for the 10!
[09:38 am] joeytsa  : had my flip for 5 yrs haha
[09:38 am] shark  : most people I know say the same
[09:39 am] shark  : even getting broken one's fixed rather than buying new one
[09:39 am] victor51  : Hi Murano
[09:39 am] joeytsa  : i barely leave the house..dont need a fancy phone haha
[09:39 am] joeytsa  : havent even put 1000 miles on my car this year
[09:39 am] shark  : Magic Jack?
[09:40 am] shark  : $19.95/year phone
[09:40 am] joeytsa  : yeah, never tried it
[09:40 am] shark  : works great
[09:40 am] apple  : haha - really shark?  that would be a savings
[09:40 am] joeytsa  : do you remember Dialpad?
[09:40 am] shark  : stock testing all time high - CALL
[09:40 am] eyes  : thats what i have shark i like it
[09:41 am] shark  : nice, eyes
[09:41 am] shark  : free calls to Canada, too
[09:41 am] apple  : yeah, called toronto on cell phone cost me $80!
[09:42 am] shark  : and you can make calls from foreign countries back to USA free
[09:42 am] apple  : nice
[09:42 am] shark  : so take with you to foreign country
[09:42 am] apple  : EXPE nice move today
[09:44 am] apple  : WPRT also had a nice move today
[09:45 am] mikewd2 -: VRTX lod
[09:49 am] mikewd2 -: be back in a little while - make good decisions!
[09:50 am] shark  : k, mike ;)
[09:50 am] joeytsa  : so Moody's has threatened to take away the USA's AAA credit rating if congress doesnt get its act together
[09:51 am] apple  : have fun mike
[09:51 am] shark  : and Boehner says he is not optimistic and that downgrade is likely
[09:51 am] joeytsa  : 1/1/13 " large,immediate fiscal shock"
[09:51 am] apple  : thx joey and shark
[09:52 am] joeytsa  : next few months will be fun haha
[09:52 am] shark  : ohhh yeahhh
[09:55 am] apple  : thx E
[09:55 am] shark  : SSYS alert
[09:55 am] shark  : SSYS alert
[09:56 am] shark  : breaking S2 area
[09:56 am] apple  : thx shark
[09:56 am] joeytsa  : AAPL lod
[09:56 am] shark  : 60.66 50day ma SSYS
[09:56 am] apple  : nice drop
[09:58 am] shark  : SSYS 61.30 long
[10:00 am] apple  : with you shark 61.34
[10:00 am] shark  : :)
[10:00 am] shark  : stop at 61.30 as well, for now
[10:03 am] joeytsa  : 40cent spike on ANGI
[10:03 am] apple  : thx joey
[10:04 am] eyes  : SWN
[10:04 am] eyes  : wrong screen
[10:10 am] shark  : exiting SSYS, have to run out for a bit
[10:11 am] joeytsa  : later shark
[10:12 am] Ed : c ya shark
[10:12 am] apple  : have fun shark
[10:12 am] shark  : :)
[10:13 am] khall  : bye shark
[10:15 am] eyes  : CDTI for you RUST
[10:16 am] eyes  : rusty
[10:20 am] eyes  : LRN any thoughts
[10:21 am] Ed : flat no movement
[10:22 am] eyes  : Ok lunch time see you all in a while
[10:23 am] Ed : c ya eyes
[10:23 am] apple  : have fun eyes
[10:29 am] eddy  : im done for the day ...early morning flight to dubai tomorrow.. see you all again then.....make good money bye all
[10:30 am] khall  : bye eddy
[10:30 am] apple  : bye eddy have a safe trip
[10:35 am] Ed : have safe trip eddy
[10:37 am] apple  : thx E
[10:37 am] qwert  : thx E got my alerts set
[10:38 am] qwert  : TIBX
[10:38 am] apple  : nice on daily E
[10:45 am] khall  : apple, are you still in SSYS?
[10:46 am] apple  : up 1 pt
[10:46 am] khall  : :-) yep
[10:46 am] khall  : still going too
[10:47 am] apple  : good
[10:52 am] apple  : thx E
[10:52 am] apple  : where is lisa?
[10:53 am] Ed : ur not here she is here and vice versa
[10:53 am] apple  : same person....
[10:53 am] apple  : haha
[10:53 am] Ed : we know
[10:54 am] apple  : i will email her
[10:55 am] Ed : joey is watching highlights of rg3 game from weekend
[10:56 am] Ed : the skins have not had this much excitement since they had to bail riggins out of jail to play next day in sunday game
[10:57 am] apple  : E are you having a conversation with yourself?
[10:57 am] Ed : it does seem that way
[10:58 am] apple  : haha, now you know it's rather slow
[10:58 am] Ed : I know u arem but waht am I?
[10:59 am] Ed : arem=are
[10:59 am] apple  : top notch
[10:59 am] Ed : lol
[10:59 am] Ed : yes u are
[10:59 am] apple  : are you going to be taking any vacation?
[10:59 am] Ed : where did qwert go?
[10:59 am] Ed : vacation, who is he???
[11:00 am] apple  : are we the only 2?
[11:00 am] Ed : Lisa says hello
[11:00 am] apple  : thx
[11:01 am] khall  : nope, I'm still here
[11:01 am] khall  : LOL
[11:01 am] apple  : kaboom
[11:01 am] apple  : okay, 3 of us
[11:01 am] Ed : c what it takes to wake up khall
[11:02 am] khall  : ha ha ha
[11:02 am] khall  : no kidding
[11:02 am] khall  : I was actually just letting the dogs in
[11:02 am] Ed : qwert must be sleep, i know he got in early yesterday am, with little sleep he said
[11:02 am] apple  : it's who let the dogs out...
[11:03 am] qwert  : just got back was cooking some breakfast
[11:03 am] Ed : lol
[11:03 am] apple  : i remember and he had a great trading day!
[11:03 am] qwert  : hahaha
[11:03 am] apple  : hello qwert
[11:03 am] Ed : uhh breakfast, its like 9pm here
[11:03 am] qwert  : hi apple
[11:03 am] qwert  : only 11 here
[11:03 am] Ed : nice call on TIBX
[11:03 am] apple  : surely you jest E!
[11:04 am] Ed : oh, looked at clock wrong its 2:04pm
[11:04 am] qwert  : thx i think i typed at the same time as you put it in E
[11:04 am] apple  : no sunlight where you are?  in the basement?
[11:04 am] Ed : more like the dungeon
[11:05 am] apple  : at least i have 2 small windows
[11:05 am] qwert  : im getting sunburnt from all these monitors
[11:05 am] Ed : I have to work my way back up to the 1st floor
[11:05 am] qwert  : hahaha
[11:05 am] joeytsa  : Ed: you still coming here?
[11:05 am] Ed : look who made it back
[11:05 am] joeytsa  : had to watch the 'skins replay haha
[11:05 am] apple  : haha, finally....
[11:06 am] qwert  : you going to vegas Ed?
[11:06 am] Ed : yes, but I have to refigure my time.
[11:06 am] joeytsa  : oh ok
[11:06 am] Ed : The time I was going, I had company
[11:06 am] apple  : best time to go!
[11:06 am] Ed : so it change my schedule
[11:06 am] joeytsa  : gotya
[11:06 am] qwert  : You should come to Cali we will go to your Restaurant
[11:07 am] joeytsa  : i should be around most of the year :)
[11:07 am] Ed : which city u in qwert
[11:07 am] apple  : haha, remember that?!
[11:07 am] qwert  : Rancho Cucamonga
[11:07 am] apple  : SD right?
[11:07 am] Ed : my fav. place candelas
[11:07 am] qwert  : 1 hour outside of LA
[11:07 am] joeytsa  : south of LA?
[11:08 am] qwert  : East of LA
[11:08 am] joeytsa  : oh ok,  might be in LA first weekend of nov
[11:08 am] qwert  : in the foothills
[11:08 am] Ed : cool
[11:08 am] qwert  : Candelas's restaurant is in San Diego
[11:09 am] apple  : oh, okay, that's what i thought
[11:09 am] qwert  : actually on Coronado
[11:09 am] joeytsa  : hitting that area next summer
[11:10 am] apple  : wake up qwert, MK is talking to you
[11:10 am] qwert  : entry was at 10:40 32.00
[11:10 am] qwert  : sorry 1 fingered typist
[11:10 am] apple  : gotta learn qwert
[11:11 am] qwert  : 2/3 exit at 32.65 10:42
[11:11 am] Ed : anyone else trade TIBX?
[11:11 am] apple  : no
[11:11 am] Ed : u mean 31.65 qwert
[11:11 am] Ed : lol
[11:11 am] qwert  : last 1/3 stop at 31.50
[11:11 am] qwert  : yeah sorr 31.65
[11:12 am] Ed : yea Mitch but u type like 150 words/minute
[11:13 am] qwert  : im like 15 a minute
[11:13 am] apple  : MK - you are not old unless you are 90+
[11:13 am] qwert  : okay
[11:14 am] qwert  : im still short 100 shares
[11:16 am] apple  : good for you qwert
[11:16 am] apple  : haha
[11:17 am] qwert  : have a target of 31 area
[11:17 am] apple  : nice!
[11:18 am] qwert  : stop at .45
[11:18 am] qwert  : thx mk will tighten stop
[11:19 am] qwert  : i like that idea
[11:19 am] apple  : good to know
[11:19 am] qwert  : stop at .26
[11:19 am] joeytsa  : FDS back to dbl top
[11:20 am] apple  : thx joey
[11:21 am] eyes  : eqt
[11:22 am] qwert  : did you get eqt short eyes
[11:22 am] Ed : too late for me on that already turned over
[11:22 am] eyes  : no to late
[11:22 am] qwert  : nice chart
[11:26 am] eyes  : SBS
[11:27 am] Ed : thin right now
[11:28 am] Ed : would like more sellers to give up
[11:30 am] eyes  : ya looks very weak
[11:31 am] eyes  : more like no mans land
[11:31 am] apple  : thx E
[11:32 am] ben4givn  : Any ideas on HOTT
[11:33 am] Ed : no touchy, too hot
[11:33 am] apple  : EXPE had a nice move today
[11:33 am] mikewd2 -: hot hot hot
[11:33 am] apple  : hot not hot today
[11:33 am] ben4givn  : Thanks, just learning
[11:33 am] Ed : on serious note 4given its just meandering not good setup
[11:34 am] Ed : and in very strong downtrend
[11:35 am] Ed : its down over 8% and has not even attempted a bounce which let u know its very very weak
[11:35 am] ben4givn  : That's what I thought, but it looked to be bottoming so thought I'd ask.
[11:36 am] Ed : its tryn to break downtrend now, but I would let someone else throw their money at it
[11:36 am] apple  : would have been a better short at beginning of session when it dropped straight down
[11:36 am] Ed : right
[11:36 am] ben4givn  : yeah, i didn't see it then
[11:36 am] Ed : this does not mean it will not bounce but its all about probability and placing odds on ur side
[11:37 am] eyes  : GMCR at the open
[11:37 am] khall  : need to run - thanks guys - see you all bright and early tomorrow!
[11:37 am] joeytsa  : bye khall
[11:37 am] apple  : right, ben -- always after the fact....
[11:37 am] apple  : bye khall have fun see you tomorrow
[11:38 am] Ed : c u khall
[11:38 am] khall  : :-)
[11:38 am] shark  : EXPE looks like pocket pivot vol off 10,21 day m.a. apple
[11:38 am] shark  : did you get some of that $1 move SSYS, apple?
[11:39 am] apple  : thx shark, yes
[11:39 am] shark  : ;) great!
[11:44 am] eyes  : any thoghts on GMCR
[11:45 am] shark  : kind of sideways, eyes
[11:45 am] apple  : all day
[11:45 am] shark  : watch for range break, eyes (on vol)
[11:46 am] shark  : like when TIF broke low of range on 9/4
[11:46 am] shark  : was great short
[11:47 am] shark  : you can see it on 15min chart pretty well -TIF
[11:47 am] joeytsa  : AAPL lod
[11:49 am] joeytsa  : would have expected some buying in AAPL
[11:51 am] qwert  : tomorrow iphone 5 correct?
[11:51 am] Ed : yes
[11:52 am] qwert  : maybe already selling the news
[11:53 am] joeytsa  : maybe, its up 100pts the past 2 weeks
[11:53 am] qwert  : i have the hardest time with that stock
[11:54 am] joeytsa  : i dont mess with it
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : MLNX pulling back to $103
[11:56 am] apple  : tootta pick up robert from school, back in a bit
[11:57 am] joeytsa  : drive safe
[11:57 am] apple  : walking fast!
[11:57 am] joeytsa  : ahhh
[11:59 am] eyes  : WAC alert
[12:00 pm] eyes  : bad tick i think
[12:01 pm] qwert  : i dont have a bad tik on wac
[12:02 pm] eyes  : on my chart it jupmed 40 cents 1 candle
[12:02 pm] joeytsa  : not a bad tick, just be careful with vol
[12:03 pm] qwert  : i dont have a 40cent move on wac
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : me either
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : not on 1 candle
[12:03 pm] eyes  : do you have ninja
[12:03 pm] joeytsa  : looked to be 50cent move past 15 minutes or so
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : i dont have ninja for stocks
[12:04 pm] qwert  : esignal here
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : but on TS and lightspeed there is no 40cent tick on a 1min candle
[12:05 pm] eyes  : it was a bad tick on ninja side not on ts
[12:05 pm] qwert  : okay
[12:06 pm] joeytsa  : any time i see a stock that has dashes for a 1min candle, i usually just go quickly to the next one
[12:07 pm] shark  : agreed
[12:07 pm] eyes  : good habit
[12:08 pm] joeytsa  : doesnt mean that you cant get a good move
[12:08 pm] joeytsa  : just that with 5000 stocks to choose, there has to be something better for me
[12:09 pm] joeytsa  : and any stock that hasnt traded 300k shares with an hour left..not for me
[12:09 pm] shark  : :) yup
[12:09 pm] shark  : anybody catch that nice TIBX move off bottom?
[12:10 pm] joeytsa  : re WAC: from 34.08 to 33.51 there are only apprx 1000 shares on L3
[12:10 pm] shark  : wonder what lightning would have done
[12:11 pm] shark  : on TIBX
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : crapped thunder :)
[12:11 pm] qwert  : hahaha
[12:12 pm] shark  : lol
[12:12 pm] rusty  : Analyst defending LRN
[12:14 pm] joeytsa  : same here Ed, looking ugly
[12:14 pm] joeytsa  : the stock not you  :)
[12:14 pm] qwert  : haha
[12:15 pm] joeytsa  : shark: might know this weekend if im coming to LA in nov..will let you know
[12:16 pm] rusty  : CTIC hod
[12:20 pm] mikewd2 -: MLNX gave up 4 points
[12:20 pm] joeytsa  : Ed; you were watching BIDU recently, making multitop at prev hi on the 1min
[12:21 pm] Ed : thx
[12:21 pm] joeytsa  : no prob
[12:22 pm] joeytsa  : $$$
[12:23 pm] qwert  : nice
[12:23 pm] shark  : 15pts x 1share = 3 happy meals :)
[12:23 pm] Ed : lol
[12:23 pm] qwert  : lol
[12:23 pm] chinhngo  : WHAT IS THE NOISE MAKE ME WAKE UP
[12:23 pm] joeytsa  : everytime i hear that cash register sound, i expect to hear the bassline for pink floyd's "money" to start playing
[12:23 pm] Ed : that means we get a lucky charm
[12:24 pm] shark  : coffee smell-o-rama for you chinhngo
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: out some TZA 14.71 out 14.90
[12:25 pm] Ed : hey mike VXX forming a bull cup
[12:25 pm] Ed : on 15min 15 day
[12:25 pm] mikewd2 -: got lots more TZA
[12:25 pm] Ed : never mind
[12:26 pm] Ed : and it takes u like 3 days to get out of the trade due to 1million shares
[12:26 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah it does suck
[12:26 pm] mikewd2 -: haha
[12:26 pm] mikewd2 -: would like to see TSO give up 40 today
[12:27 pm] Ed : hey qwert u try any of those weak stocks breaking down to short like on EQIX?
[12:28 pm] Ed : after they try to form a bottom and bounce is weak
[12:28 pm] Ed : i know u said u were going to study them
[12:29 pm] qwert  : not today but yes have been studying
[12:29 pm] mikewd2 -: SINA sold off some
[12:29 pm] Ed : add EQIX to the list
[12:29 pm] qwert  : yep
[12:30 pm] Ed : both areas  broke down
[12:31 pm] qwert  : nice
[12:31 pm] qwert  : talking up kors on cnbc
[12:32 pm] victor51  : Ed, do you find weakstock using daily or any other list
[12:32 pm] eyes  : Good Night Everyone
[12:32 pm] shark  : nice slide on EQIX
[12:32 pm] shark  : watch list for tomorrow
[12:33 pm] murano  : CIG
[12:33 pm] shark  : bye Mitch! Thank you ;)
[12:34 pm] Ed : u can find by looking at daily, but as far as what I was just speaking about it has to do with feel. Like if stocks has dropped 10% and only bounces 1%, that tell u it really weak.
[12:34 pm] Ed : The more u study, trade  etc u will start to see patterns and how stocks act
[12:35 pm] Ed : sweet
[12:36 pm] shark  : KORS spike
[12:36 pm] shark  : nice vol too
[12:36 pm] shark  : sold 49 Sep22 puts +.45 off bottom
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch, Ed, everyone..have a great day, see you all tomorrow
[12:37 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : haha
[12:38 pm] mikewd2 -: RRC
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : big race for our stable this saturday Mitch
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : win and we go to the Breeders Cup again
[12:38 pm] Ed : cool spinach
[12:39 pm] qwert  : thats awesome joey
[12:39 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, we'll see
[12:39 pm] Mitch K: man thats pretty cool joey
[12:39 pm] victor51  : Bye Joey Thanks for CIE
[12:39 pm] Ed : nice joey
[12:39 pm] Ed : right
[12:40 pm] joeytsa  : i still dont remember CIE victor haha
[12:41 pm] victor51  : Idid. got .55cents but took 3 hours
[12:41 pm] Ed : that was like +10 on EQIX short, wish I saw earlier
[12:42 pm] apple  : back
[12:42 pm] apple  : good luck joey
[12:44 pm] shark  : Eddddddd!
[12:44 pm] Ed : famous line in "man on fire" I wish you had more time
[12:44 pm] Ed : lol
[12:44 pm] shark  : lol
[12:44 pm] apple  : thx MK
[12:45 pm] shark  : watching KORS for top
[12:45 pm] shark  : big volume move
[12:46 pm] aussie123  : MK..Do you have any technical people on your staff I could call & talk with to set up for Lightning?
[12:50 pm] Ed : Im sure some able body will be available to help
[12:51 pm] Ed : when that time comes and its released
[12:53 pm] qwert  : Goodnight everybody  see ya in the am
[12:54 pm] victor51  : How is your day going Appel?
[12:54 pm] Ed : c ya qwert
[12:54 pm] victor51  : bye quart
[12:54 pm] aussie123  : Ed..I use Think or Swim... & have no idea what the heck Ninjas is or does etc.
[12:54 pm] shark  : word is that KORS offering on 2ndry is over-subscribed
[12:54 pm] apple  : bye qwert
[12:54 pm] apple  : great so far victor
[12:55 pm] rusty  : BAC hod
[12:55 pm] shark  : FIVE was another good runner off bottom today -mised it
[12:57 pm] shark  : hey, AMZN pe is only 314
[12:58 pm] shark  : AIG nice off bottom too, heaviest traded day ever 236m shares
[12:59 pm] apple  : thx shark
[12:59 pm] shark  : :)
[12:59 pm] apple  : thx E, you too
[01:01 pm] victor51  : See you all
[01:02 pm] apple  : all have a wonderful evening
[01:03 pm] rusty  : gn all

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