Chat Highlights From 08/30/2011

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[06:14 am] Mitch K: Mitch King: I have a dream that someday, all stocks will obey, its my dream.
[06:23 am] Kris : Kris : good morning traders
[06:25 am] Brent : Brent : good morning
[06:27 am] Kris : Kris : Time to Rock! Let's go!
[06:30 am] Kris : Kris : KSS short half
[06:30 am] Kris : Kris : PANL short half
[06:31 am] Kris : Kris : DLTR long half
[06:31 am] Kris : Kris : out half PANL short
[06:32 am] Kris : Kris : BIDU long half
[06:32 am] Kris : Kris : out another 1/4 PANL short
[06:34 am] Kris : Kris : RIMM long half
[06:35 am] Kris : Kris : JVA long half
[06:35 am] Kris : Kris : LVS long half
[06:36 am] Kris : Kris : out half KSS short
[06:37 am] Kris : Kris : out half RIMM long
[06:38 am] Kris : Kris : LULU long half
[06:39 am] Kris : Kris : BIDU new hod[06:39 am] Mitch K: Mitch King: PANL
[06:40 am] Brent : Brent : watching BKS for a short
[06:40 am] Mitch K: Mitch King: considering PANL as a short, possibly overnight
[06:41 am] Kris : Kris : SPY still holding up, looking like it wants to make a new hod.
[06:42 am] Brent : Brent : consider reducing BKS if you got it short
[06:42 am] Kris : Kris : long second half JVA
[06:42 am] Kris : Kris : MCP long half
[06:43 am] Kris : Kris : out half MCP long
[06:44 am] Kris : Kris : out another 1/4 MCP long
[06:45 am] Kris : Kris : looking for new hod in JVA soon
[06:45 am] Kris : Kris : SPY new hod[06:46 am] Kris : Kris : RIMM pushing new hod[06:47 am] Kris : Kris : JVA new hod[06:48 am] Kris : Kris : HANS long half
[06:49 am] Kris : Kris : out half JVA long
[06:49 am] Kris : Kris : run JVA run
[06:49 am] Kris : Kris : SINA long half
[06:51 am] Kris : Kris : SPY pulling back
[06:52 am] Kris : Kris : TRV short half
[06:53 am] Brent : Brent : watching LPS for a short
[06:53 am] Kris : Kris : PRU short half
[06:53 am] Kris : Kris : ROST long half
[06:55 am] Kris : Kris : SPY bounced from trendline support
[06:56 am] Kris : Kris : MCP heading for hod[06:57 am] Kris : Kris : SINA consolidating
[06:59 am] Kris : Kris : BIDU testing hod[07:00 am] Kris : Kris : BIG DROP
[07:00 am] Kris : Kris : let me guess
[07:00 am] Kris : Kris : lol[07:01 am] Brent : Brent : consider reducing LPS
[07:01 am] Kris : Kris : thanks joey and mike
[07:01 am] Mitch K: Mitch King: was consumer confidence
[07:02 am] Kris : Kris : agreed joey
[07:02 am] Kris : Kris : PANL new lod[07:03 am] Kris : Kris : anyone still short PANL?
[07:03 am] Kris : Kris : never bail
[07:03 am] Kris : Kris : remove the word bail from your vocab sonorant
[07:04 am] Kris : Kris : exit
[07:05 am] Kris : Kris : busy time
[07:05 am] Kris : Kris : I'll explain later
[07:07 am] Kris : Kris : out half PRU short
[07:11 am] Mitch K: Mitch King: watching VMW for bounce here
[07:13 am] Kris : Kris : USG long half
[07:16 am] Kris : Kris : getting more green coming across the board, watch that trendline resistance.
[07:16 am] Kris : Kris : try not to distract this early in the morning.
[07:16 am] Kris : Kris : watching CRM for a bounce
[07:17 am] Kris : Kris : SINA testing hod[07:18 am] Kris : Kris : QCOR long half
[07:22 am] Kris : Kris : my stop is at 29.22 on QCOR, will look to add soon. just waiting for the markets to hold.
[07:24 am] Kris : Kris : 46.26 on LVS Itacher[07:25 am] Kris : Kris : LVS held up well against that selling, looking for new hod push
[07:25 am] Kris : Kris : SINA new hod[07:26 am] Kris : Kris : UA long half
[07:27 am] Kris : Kris : CPHD long half
[07:28 am] Kris : Kris : SPY trying to push through resistance here
[07:29 am] Kris : Kris : SINA coming up on resistance
[07:31 am] Kris : Kris : HMSY long half, it's a little thin so start slow and stay smaller than usual if you take it
[07:32 am] Kris : Kris : lol[07:32 am] Kris : Kris : SPY pushing through
[07:32 am] Kris : Kris : the halfy half
[07:33 am] Kris : Kris : QCOR trying for new hod[07:33 am] Kris : Kris : resistance is gonna be that 121 to 121.20 area
[07:33 am] Mitch K: Mitch King: Z, Zillow trading
[07:34 am] Kris : Kris : LVS new hod[07:34 am] Mitch K: Mitch King: lol, nevermind, i thought that was an IPO from a muted CNBC
[07:34 am] Mitch K: Mitch King: neither, joey
[07:36 am] Kris : Kris : GMCR pushing hod[07:37 am] Kris : Kris : yeah joey, I think we were on the same page regarding the knee jerk from the report
[07:38 am] Kris : Kris : I was buying
[07:39 am] Kris : Kris : "run for your lives! the analysts are saying it's worse than they even predicted!"
[07:41 am] Kris : Kris : now you're starting to think gecko
[07:41 am] Kris : Kris : well played sir
[07:43 am] Kris : Kris : let's see if she can hold 120.40 area
[07:43 am] Kris : Kris : SPY coming back into support area
[07:43 am] Kris : Kris : UA consolidating, looking for another leg up
[07:45 am] Kris : Kris : seeing more green come across the tapes
[07:45 am] Kris : Kris : SINA pushing new hod[07:45 am] Kris : Kris : so much for the halfy half
[07:48 am] Kris : Kris : RGLD long half
[07:49 am] Kris : Kris : good eye Itacher. watch for a breakout in TZOO over 38.55
[07:54 am] Kris : Kris : watching bidu for new high, nice wall of resistance has been building around 145.70
[07:56 am] Kris : Kris : I hit it tiwce qwert, I'l look to take a quickie on the break for #3
[07:57 am] Kris : Kris : SPY moving up to previous high resistance
[08:01 am] Kris : Kris : SINA been working out
[08:02 am] Kris : Kris : she's looking toned
[08:02 am] Kris : Kris : ZAGG long half
[08:04 am] Kris : Kris : I missed ZAGG
[08:04 am] Kris : Kris : it wouldn't fill
[08:07 am] Kris : Kris : BIDU moving up
[08:07 am] Kris : Kris : DANG moving
[08:08 am] Kris : Kris : ARCO long
[08:08 am] Kris : Kris : don't chase arco if you missed
[08:08 am] Kris : Kris : RUN RUN RUN RUN!
[08:09 am] Kris : Kris : out half ARCO long
[08:11 am] Kris : Kris : I would wait to confirm any news
[08:11 am] Kris : Kris : trade at your own risk sonorant
[08:12 am] Kris : Kris : Pat, I'm so proud I'm blushing.
[08:13 am] Kris : Kris : I haven't blushed this hard since bert wore his speedo to the venetian pool in vegas.
[08:14 am] Brent : Brent : ahh yes that one. I get them all confused
[08:14 am] Kris : Kris : lol[08:14 am] Kris : Kris : remember bert? It was the one that said "extra juicy" on the butt
[08:15 am] Kris : Kris : 121.20 resistance on SPY
[08:15 am] Kris : Kris : I'm just bagging on him cause he has out traded me today so far but the day ain't over yet.
[08:15 am] Kris : Kris : SPY testing hod[08:17 am] Kris : Kris : for those that got ZAGG long, look to take some off here
[08:18 am] Kris : Kris : move up stop on rest to around 15.37
[08:19 am] Kris : Kris : yes Itacher[08:20 am] Kris : Kris : YOKU not done yet
[08:21 am] Kris : Kris : BIDU acting like it wants higher
[08:21 am] Kris : Kris : TZOO coming into 39.00
[08:23 am] Kris : Kris : QIHU running
[08:24 am] Kris : Kris : RGLD
[08:24 am] Kris : Kris : RLGD at hod, should get another move
[08:25 am] Kris : Kris : BIDU breaking out again
[08:25 am] Kris : Kris : shrug it off
[08:26 am] Brent : Brent : yeah, it'll distract you Itacher if you keep watching it.
[08:26 am] Kris : Kris : just make a note of it for your eod trade review Itacher[08:26 am] Kris : Kris : out half BIDU long
[08:27 am] Kris : Kris : out another 1/4 BIDU
[08:28 am] Kris : Kris : green tape
[08:28 am] Kris : Kris : SPY new hod[08:28 am] Kris : Kris : YOKU resistance around 27.00 but could turn early.
[08:29 am] Kris : Kris : SPY resistance 121.50
[08:36 am] Kris : Kris : SPY testing hod again
[09:00 am] Kris : Kris : JVA looks bullish but not sure how much more upside we could see today in the markets.
[09:01 am] Kris : Kris : we could have one more leg up
[09:06 am] Kris : Kris : out all BIDU long
[09:19 am] Kris : Kris : SPY starting to come back into support area with previous highs, needs to break overhead trendline resistance for move back to hod[09:22 am] Brent : Brent : have a good night ScalpMan[09:46 am] Kris : Kris : TNA could be a good pickup again for a day trade soon
[09:48 am] Kris : Kris : as a heads up, I'll be gone Thursday and Friday of this week.
[09:49 am] Kris : Kris : I have to attend a funeral. It's really the only thing that would keep me away from trading.
[09:49 am] Kris : Kris : thanks joey
[09:49 am] Kris : Kris : Will be back again trading on Tuesday.
[09:50 am] Kris : Kris : as of today, the wedding is still on
[09:50 am] Kris : Kris : so take it easy on mitch while I'm gone. he's delicate.
[09:50 am] Kris : Kris : that is the end of September
[09:51 am] Kris : Kris : you could start with a small piece on TNA here
[09:57 am] Kris : Kris : I don't see anything in qcor here ronfrac[09:57 am] Kris : Kris : just selling in the market. I don't see "tanking" yet
[09:58 am] Kris : Kris : adding a little more TNA here
[10:00 am] Kris : Kris : go TNA go
[10:01 am] Kris : Kris : first resistance gonna be around 48.00 Itacher[10:01 am] Kris : Kris : I would take some off before 48.00 then see if it can push that 48.42 level.
[10:13 am] Kris : Kris : out half TNA long
[10:33 am] Kris : Kris : PANL still leaking lcd[11:44 am] Mitch K: Mitch King: this particular week and also this time of day, you want to have the mentality to wait.... just sit and wait for a good one to come along. the hardest part is the sitting
[11:45 am] Mitch K: Mitch King: in a lot of respects, the analogy is similar to hunting, a lot of sitting
[12:00 pm] Brent : Brent : SPY new hod[12:59 pm] Kris : Kris : have a good night everyone. see you back here tomorrow morning.
[01:03 pm] Brent : Brent : have a good night, see you all tomorrow
[07:16 am] lightning : yes
[07:16 am] lightning : i have it gecko. why
[07:16 am] joeytsa : not looking today gecko
[07:16 am] gecko : the dotted line red and black
[07:16 am] gecko : is that ema sma 200
[07:16 am] gecko : do you use adriano setup?
[07:17 am] lightning : yes
[07:17 am] gecko : thanks
[07:18 am] lightning : sure thing
[07:20 am] doji : Mitch, is it wiser to go S in PANL here as swing trade?
[07:21 am] qwert : kris stop for qcor?
[07:21 am] joeytsa : the ES just had a double top with neg div on macd...stay alert
[07:22 am] rokh18 : SVA
[07:23 am] qwert : thanks had it at .17
[07:23 am] ltacher : Kris what is your stop in LVS thanks
[07:23 am] apple : thx K
[07:25 am] ltacher : perfect thank you so much
[07:26 am] shark : mcp[07:26 am] shark : consolidating
[07:29 am] ltacher : in qcor 29.55 stop 29.22
[07:31 am] gecko : sina peak at half round number and at 10.30
[07:32 am] gecko : broke it
[07:32 am] doji : Big jamp in SINA
[07:33 am] joeytsa : gecko...took my SINA profits just below 100
[07:34 am] mikewd2 -: Z, IPO'ed a while back
[07:34 am] joeytsa : Mitch..was it halted or an IPO
[07:34 am] joeytsa : missed that nice bottom after the report, got it at consolidation at 99
[07:34 am] joeytsa : gotya thanks
[07:35 am] shark : MCP new hod[07:35 am] shark : ceo interview joey
[07:35 am] Mitch K: IPO'd[07:35 am] Kris : Zillows?
[07:35 am] Kris : they have mobile apps for searching homes for sell and using gps[07:35 am] Kris : real estate data
[07:35 am] joeytsa : never heard of Zillow
[07:35 am] joeytsa : i see the daily chart now
[07:35 am] apple : lol[07:35 am] Mitch K: ipod july 20th
[07:36 am] ltacher : GMCR bought las Night nice call kris[07:36 am] joeytsa : looks like it opened mid-50's
[07:36 am] gecko : sina with round number high
[07:36 am] gecko : 101
[07:36 am] apple : K - very interesting
[07:37 am] ltacher : last minu trading with GMCR following the big dogs
[07:37 am] joeytsa : Kris...seems like all of the stronger momentum stocks went up, had a real nice pullback on that cc report and gave great buy entries
[07:38 am] joeytsa : played it just like morning gaps...zig when they zag[07:39 am] joeytsa : time for a break...good trading to everyone
[07:39 am] joeytsa : they do a great job after the fact...
[07:39 am] apple : have fun, joey
[07:40 am] ltacher : let do it LVS 47 let do it
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: dang, 0/2 trying to short SINA
[07:41 am] ltacher : out on MY LVS
[07:41 am] ltacher : nice call Kris
[07:41 am] gecko : wonder if the analyst just say it to make people do the opposite of what they are doing?
[07:42 am] gecko : u mean they don't want to make us money?
[07:43 am] ltacher : such a great coach I better be .. otherwise i will be sitting dog out not playing .. lol[07:45 am] ltacher : QCOR one them lol[07:46 am] mikewd2 -: there goes SINA again
[07:46 am] ltacher : some analyst gave EK a price target of 6 a share
[07:47 am] doji : SPY broke support
[07:49 am] ltacher : TZOO holding well
[07:49 am] ltacher : any body is trading TZOO
[07:50 am] ltacher : i got like ten right now lol[07:51 am] mabdeen7 : bks dropping
[07:55 am] qwert : kris are you still long BIDU from this am or looking to get back in on hod breakout
[08:03 am] ltacher : Dogi I think you are in ZAGG
[08:03 am] joeytsa : SINA...just like a great race horse, huh Kris
[08:03 am] derns : Kris..I'm watching TZOO after your earlier comment. To understand, you are interested over 38.55 because of the possible breakout that would come by way of stops over the high being triggered? Thx for explaining when you have time.
[08:04 am] doji : No way
[08:04 am] doji : I got it at 15.4
[08:05 am] doji : Fed releases minutes from last meeting at 2:00PM
[08:06 am] ltacher : are you in ZAGG ?
[09:33 am] ltacher : 08:07 am] ltacher : at 38.28
[08:07 am] ltacher : in TZOO
[08:07 am] ltacher : at 38.28
[08:07 am] doji : Yes Itacher[08:07 am] candelas : nice call bidu[08:08 am] sonorant : ACOM has been running all morning
[08:08 am] shark : you buying it all, Kris
[08:08 am] doji : Too late to see ARCO
[08:09 am] doji : 26.5 Shark?
[08:09 am] shark : technical upside breakout
[08:09 am] doji : What is going on with ARCO
[08:10 am] sonorant : can we short it?
[08:10 am] shark : 26.30
[08:10 am] doji : OVTI
[08:11 am] truck : Really nice trade !
[08:11 am] lightning : very nice apple
[08:11 am] derns : TZOO...38.60
[08:11 am] apple : lunch on me today, love SINA L 97.72 out 104.40
[08:12 am] doji : MCD all times high
[08:13 am] gecko : the one with the zipper
[08:14 am] qwert : i think they call it a banana hamock[08:14 am] apple : too funny ... waiting for B's response
[08:15 am] topdogrex : yoku is running
[08:15 am] shark : DIA hitting hod[08:15 am] ltacher : let see if TZOO hit 39 let's do it TZOO
[08:15 am] joeytsa : great trade apple
[08:15 am] doji : YOKU pops
[08:16 am] truck : Looks like Apple and SINA are the trade of the day !!
[08:16 am] shark : aaple better than AAPL today
[08:17 am] truck : Apple, are you going to short it here ?
[08:17 am] gecko : sina hod equal to r3
[08:17 am] doji : How is your day going Itacher? Winners vs losers?
[08:18 am] doji : 1/2 out ZAGG, thanks Kris
[08:18 am] ltacher : rest of my shares .. Thank you Kris
[08:18 am] ltacher : Kris good Coaching ..
[08:18 am] apple : yes truck, I am
[08:19 am] ltacher : Kris are you still Holding RGLD ..
[08:19 am] ltacher : :)
[08:20 am] doji : Anyone got Yoku?
[08:21 am] ltacher : I placed an limit order 146.31.. long
[08:21 am] doji : RIMM
[08:22 am] ltacher : I sold all TZOO shares i sould of wait [08:25 am] ltacher : camo on RGLD move to 80 let go
[08:25 am] ltacher : TZOO 39.49 oh noooooo[08:26 am] anthonyb : One of the few things i did right today. .92 on TZOO
[08:27 am] topdogrex : kris, target on YOKU
[08:27 am] shark : will AAPL finish the day higher than aaple?
[08:27 am] shark : these things give new opportunities to enter, just might not be today
[08:27 am] ltacher : definitely Thank you Kris Brent
[08:27 am] doji : wow BIDU
[08:27 am] apple : thx for BIDU, K got it L 143.79
[08:29 am] apple : go TNA go
[08:31 am] Brent : you too anthonyb, see you tomorrow
[08:31 am] anthonyb : Thanks for the help guys. Have a great day and see you tomorrow
[08:31 am] doji : BIDU S 147.35, tight stop at 147.6
[08:32 am] doji : Mike, how is your trading going today? Manage to reverse yesterday losses?
[08:32 am] mikewd2 -: 3/5 the 3 wins were nice bidu, dang, tna[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: definitely made up for yesterdays loses
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: 2 loses tried to short SINA, but very tight stops
[08:33 am] Brent : nice recovery mikewd, good job
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: thanks guys
[08:34 am] joeytsa : good job mike
[08:34 am] doji : Nice to hear that Mike
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: dang was nice, 4k shares pre-market 7.85 out 8.19
[08:36 am] apple : TNA, TNA, TNA
[08:36 am] apple : good job mike
[08:38 am] garyb : TNA is rockin!
[08:39 am] mikewd2 -: russell isn't up much today, 0.3% we could see much higher
[08:41 am] apple : took SINA S 104.48, reversed 104.65, out 106.20
[08:42 am] qwert : apple awesome
[08:42 am] mikewd2 -: convinced SINA not short able today, burned twice.
[08:42 am] lightning : SINA is apple's very best friend today
[08:43 am] apple : Many thx to K!!!!
[08:43 am] apple : L BIDU 143.79 out 147.57
[08:46 am] sonorant : Apple, what a day!
[08:46 am] joeytsa : SINA rocked today
[08:46 am] apple : L MCP 55.96, out all 57.22
[08:47 am] candelas : nice Apple
[08:47 am] Brent : great job Apple
[08:47 am] apple : banner day for me, for sure!
[08:49 am] scalpman : I've been working TNA / TZA all day up and down...having a good day.
[08:52 am] vans : Added 4 % to my account today, A habit I could live with.
[08:52 am] eyes-inthenow : GO Apple
[08:52 am] Brent : awesome job vans
[08:52 am] apple : good one vans
[08:53 am] eyes-inthenow : i am up 160
[08:53 am] doji : Here is Summer from January to March, the opposite to the US.... Candelas
[08:53 am] apple : thx eyes - how's it going today?
[08:54 am] shark : you in Rio now, doji? you live there?
[08:54 am] gecko : how have u played tna/tza[08:54 am] apple : then definitely over winter break - February...
[08:55 am] gecko : could be
[08:55 am] apple : 12:00 reversal coming up...
[08:56 am] shark : i think I'll take some CMG profits and have some Chipotle for lunch
[08:56 am] gecko : dow did 100 point run
[08:56 am] gecko : at 11 on 5m spy and dji through candle above ema 50
[08:56 am] apple : good one shark
[08:57 am] shark : KRIS -do you see JVA as an ascending flag, bullish pattern here?
[08:57 am] mikewd2 -: AGQ dropped 5 suddenly
[08:59 am] gecko : market feels like it wants to creep up to me
[09:01 am] shark : ok, thx kris[09:04 am] sonorant : How did you know TZOO was primed to pop?
[09:05 am] derns : Kris...I'm out of TZOO..thx...are you interested if it decidedly runs above 40?
[09:07 am] joeytsa : no homeruns for me, but a nice collection of bunts and singles
[09:07 am] joeytsa : BIDU/SINA great trades today
[09:08 am] joeytsa : SINA consolidating...
[09:09 am] joeytsa : last couple of highs were on lower highs of the macd[09:10 am] ronfrac : Kris: What does QCOR look like. 1 min and 15 min 30 min charts all negative
[09:10 am] gecko : anyone go long on tza at noon?
[09:11 am] joeytsa : DG spike down
[09:13 am] candelas : some great calls today
[09:13 am] candelas : money can't buy happiness but it sure helps when 70% of city still in dark including myself
[09:14 am] vans : I went long, but bailed when charts peaked, darn
[09:14 am] scalpman : Brent, any insight in the ENTRY into BKS...The pattern looks classic now with and entry SHORT at 13.63. But catching that was tricky. Any tho'ts?
[09:14 am] joeytsa : indeed candelas
[09:15 am] vans : trying to learn how to wait for it and play it safer so I can start going in bigger with confidence.
[09:15 am] rusty : started a swingtrade short in JVA
[09:16 am] scalpman : I got whip-sawed, entering too soon...and then place stops too tight...I kind of blew it.
[09:16 am] gecko : tza noon would be 2%
[09:19 am] vans : I would like to find a good CF entry
[09:20 am] joeytsa : vans: swing/int or daytrade entry?
[09:20 am] doji : Right here Vans?
[09:20 am] doji : 189.5
[09:22 am] scalpman : Bye all see you tomorrow.
[09:24 am] sonorant : Kris, Itacher, what made TZOO such a compelling trade back before it took off?
[09:26 am] sonorant : Joey, what is the cc report?
[09:26 am] observer : REE hod[09:26 am] joeytsa : sonorant : to me it looked like a huge over-selling on the cc report, indicators bottomed and turned up?
[09:26 am] doji : That's a good question Sonorant and I thnink Kris was also involved
[09:27 am] joeytsa : SINA,TNA..same chart pattern as TZOO just about
[09:27 am] joeytsa : consumer confidence report came out at 7am PST
[09:27 am] joeytsa : bunch of stuff dropped hard
[09:27 am] doji : You are right and the input on TZOO came when it was at about 38.5
[09:28 am] ltacher : I think in my point of view held very well when the market was falling point A , point be the one minute Chart was cons .. that brought my attention and brought up to kris and he confirm my opinion and felt very confident up and pulled the trigger
[09:28 am] joeytsa : most of the biggest movers today had the EXACT same pattern at 7amPST
[09:29 am] sonorant : Okay, thanks, will go back and look at the charts again.
[09:29 am] doji : At what time was that Itacher when your first posted TZOO? ET please
[09:30 am] ltacher : TZOO ? let me see
[09:30 am] doji : Yes Itacher[09:30 am] doji : FOSL Short here?
[09:31 am] doji : Have a good support at 100
[09:31 am] doji : and then at 97
[09:32 am] joeytsa : doji: it's too late but the short was actually at 103...not sure about right now
[09:34 am] ltacher : Got in here look at the candle pushing up in the one min bar vs Volume the up bid was higher then down bid
[09:34 am] joeytsa : but a great chart to learn from...
[09:34 am] joeytsa : apple: yeah, too bad i just noticed it haha[09:34 am] apple : good chart on FOSL short at 103 - agree
[09:35 am] ltacher : but i made a mistake sold to soon when buyer still coming in i should wait for the next bar going down I wrote in my journal today
[09:35 am] joeytsa : lower high from the 6:45 peak to the 8:45 peak PST
[09:36 am] apple : me too
[09:37 am] sonorant : I was trying to fix a trade that had gotten placed without its stops around 7 and missed the big picture on the cc report. Interesting. Thanks.
[09:37 am] sonorant : cons? what are cons?
[09:37 am] ltacher : thing
[09:37 am] ltacher : look at it now doing the same think in TZOO cons again but i won't get in now once a make a mistake on a stock I don't touch it ..
[09:38 am] sonorant : Thanks, obvious if I think about it.
[09:38 am] ltacher : sonorant sorry !! i meant consolidating
[09:39 am] sonorant : Yes, but last time it was consolidating on an upward slope, this time, the slope seems more horizontal so far
[09:39 am] lightning : AZPN dropping hard
[09:41 am] qwert : azpn[09:41 am] ltacher : Very good point .. slop looks different I am just the student
[09:41 am] ltacher : lol[09:42 am] joeytsa : AGP lod[09:44 am] joeytsa : the ES on an hour-long slow move down
[09:45 am] sonorant : There's nothing slow about this drop.
[09:45 am] mikewd2 -: Mitch, is the DVD "Trade with the Pros" the same as the Wizard Course?
[09:46 am] doji : Anyone in FOSL Short?
[09:46 am] Brent : trade with the pros is more current mikewd2, they aren't the same
[09:47 am] mikewd2 -: thought they were different, Mitch refers to the wizard course.
[09:47 am] mikewd2 -: Ok, i already had trade with the pro's and wanted the wizard course - but they sent me another copy of trade with the pros
[09:48 am] Brent : they sent you the wrong one then mikewd2. Contact service and the get it taken care of
[09:49 am] mikewd2 -: ok, thanks Brent
[09:49 am] joeytsa : sorry to hear
[09:50 am] ronfrac : what about getting married?
[09:50 am] hawaii : how soon on tna thanks
[09:50 am] doji : Sorry to hear that Kris
[09:51 am] sonorant : I'm totally confused, I thought you got married last weekend!!
[09:51 am] leo : I'd like to request TSA for giving swing entry signals of recommended ideas.
[09:51 am] Kris : I had my bachelor party 2 weekends ago
[09:52 am] Kris : Monday is a holiday. market is closed.
[09:52 am] Kris : I'll be gone Thursday and Friday this week.
[09:53 am] ltacher : thank you sorry about the inprudency ..lol[09:53 am] ltacher : so tomorrow you are here correct
[09:53 am] Kris : I'll be back in the room Tuesday morning.
[09:53 am] Kris : correct
[09:53 am] apple : can we have the SPY chart up, please? Thx.
[09:54 am] ltacher : I had the best day today with you Kris excellent coaching
[09:54 am] Kris : there you go pat
[09:54 am] Kris : congrats joey!
[09:54 am] joeytsa : thanks...lifelong dream
[09:54 am] joeytsa : ps: on friday, the race horse i just became part-owner of is running on friday in the 4th race at Saratoga...very excited
[09:54 am] apple : thx K
[09:55 am] ronfrac : Kris: What are your thoughts on Qcor[09:55 am] ltacher : with TZOO .. awesome and LVS and the rest you are the best men
[09:55 am] joeytsa : Royal Bonnie is her name
[09:55 am] joeytsa : no probs on Travers day..but the cancelled sundays racing, race yesterday though
[09:55 am] apple : very happy for you joey - how did Saratoga fare during the hurricane?
[09:56 am] ronfrac : Why's everything tanking?
[09:57 am] joeytsa : news just hit that kris won't be trading :)
[09:57 am] apple : look at SPY
[09:58 am] Kris : tna[09:58 am] Kris : lol[09:58 am] Kris : bak[09:59 am] ronfrac : Kris: You're a cool one. Just selling in the market! SPY dwn 2 pts in 1 min.
[09:59 am] ltacher : kris are you still in RGLD
[09:59 am] leo : Kris, TNA for day trade or swing?
[09:59 am] Kris : unless we specific "swing" everything we post will be a day trade leo.
[09:59 am] Kris : TNA as a day trade
[09:59 am] Kris : specify
[09:59 am] Kris : no, I'm out of RGLD
[09:59 am] Kris : my screen locked up
[09:59 am] Kris : disregard
[10:00 am] ronfrac : BKS blasting
[10:00 am] ltacher : Kris is tna recistance 48.13
[10:00 am] leo : Thnx Kris
[10:00 am] Kris : specificicationals[10:00 am] candelas : specificsssssss[10:01 am] gecko : looks like sina was a long till about noon
[10:02 am] rusty : CIGX news
[10:02 am] doji : I'll wait for a better price in TNA
[10:03 am] doji : GNK
[10:04 am] ltacher : I am in small position TNA
[10:04 am] doji : FRO a runner today
[10:07 am] rusty : Man walks into his house holding a duck....looks at his wife and says, "hey this is the pig I've been sleeping with". Wife says " You idiot, that's a duck" Man says. " I was talking to the duck"
[10:07 am] rusty : laugh every time lol[10:07 am] Kris : that one never gets old
[10:07 am] Kris : lol[10:07 am] Kris : a classic
[10:07 am] joeytsa : haha...i just heard that one yesterday actually :)
[10:08 am] ltacher : Nice on TNA looking good so far ..
[10:08 am] gecko : will go over well with the mrs[10:09 am] sonorant : nor would an old wife.....
[10:09 am] ronfrac : Some advice from an old married man, don't pull that off on your new wife. She won't think it is funny
[10:09 am] Kris : lol[10:09 am] joeytsa : you don't, there's a clock on the oven
[10:09 am] joeytsa : How do you fix your wife's watch?
[10:10 am] sonorant : oh dear, that is funny
[10:10 am] ronfrac : That advice is based on experience
[10:10 am] apple : doesn't sound very positive...
[10:11 am] rusty : lol[10:11 am] Kris : it's healthy for a new wife to learn she's not the center of the universe. I called nasa and checked. They confirmed.
[10:11 am] Kris : and then they asked for a loan
[10:11 am] joeytsa : it fits right over her mouth :)
[10:11 am] joeytsa : I just bought a device that makes my car run 95% quieter...
[10:12 am] Kris : looks like only way I'm getting into space now is on sputnik
[10:12 am] joeytsa : Kris knows he is marrying the right girl...
[10:12 am] joeytsa : he just didn't know her first name was Always :)
[10:13 am] sonorant : The problem is that when they marry you, their expectation is that they WILL be the center of your universe.... So it could be a bit of a letdown.
[10:15 am] ltacher : out on my TNA
[10:15 am] ltacher : nice trade KRIS
[10:15 am] Kris : oh how sweet it is
[10:15 am] Kris : "no honey, do you remember where you used it last?"
[10:15 am] Kris : "have you seen my credit card?"
[10:16 am] sonorant : Yes, TNA is working out, thanks.
[10:16 am] observer : Thx, Kris TNA
[10:16 am] mikewd2 -: Kris, you don't know the half of it, wait until your married.
[10:16 am] Kris : "Well how the hell should I know? You never spend your own money anyway."
[10:16 am] Kris : "Try using your brain."
[10:16 am] Kris : "My brain doesn't work like that."
[10:16 am] Kris : "If I could remember that you think I would be asking you where it was?"
[10:16 am] joeytsa : my credit card was stolen, but didn't report it...thieves spent less than my wife does
[10:16 am] doji : All ALWAYS is your fault!
[10:17 am] sonorant : I hope she has some redeeming qualities
[10:17 am] ltacher : Kris what made you buy TNA at 47 and change and sell it at 48 and did you see different now ..at 47 and change then at 46 .70 thank
[10:17 am] lightning : agree...happily married. Wouldn't know what to do without my wife.
[10:17 am] Kris : not just a balance weight.
[10:17 am] Kris : "It should. That's the essence of a brains existence. for memory."
[10:17 am] apple : be kind
[10:18 am] ronfrac : short GNK?
[10:18 am] Kris : hold on Itacher, let me find my zen center.
[10:18 am] apple : maybe it's time for a tune
[10:18 am] apple : lol[10:19 am] rusty : zen center lol[10:20 am] ltacher : Thank you Kris .. I'm grabbing as much knowledge as I can knowledge is power
[10:21 am] Kris : ok, what's the question Itache?
[10:22 am] sonorant : candelas, are you on a generator?
[10:22 am] ltacher : Kris what made you buy TNA at 47 and change and sell it at 48 and did you see diffirent now ..at 47 and change then at 46 .70 thank
[10:22 am] Kris : not looking for homerun
[10:22 am] Kris : 2 things on TNA, the accelerated move down into support
[10:22 am] candelas : be right back going to check fuel
[10:23 am] sonorant : Who, candelas, rusty?
[10:23 am] rusty : I hope he's not in a plane
[10:23 am] Kris : then was looking for about 1% area to take half off
[10:23 am] Kris : so I started small thinking it might try to test me
[10:23 am] Kris : let it come down a little and followed the buyers back into it with the rest of my position
[10:23 am] Kris : and move up my stop
[10:23 am] Kris : accelerated move and the support
[10:23 am] junior : VMW spiking
[10:24 am] sonorant : Thanks much for the clarification.
[10:24 am] rusty : yes
[10:24 am] Kris : wasn't sold on a full blown rally to the highs, just playing a bounce.
[10:24 am] Kris : and now a no risk trade that I've already taken some profit on.
[10:24 am] junior : CLX alert
[10:25 am] rusty : CL early radar
[10:25 am] joeytsa : good eyes junior
[10:26 am] ltacher : awesome analogy
[10:28 am] mikewd2 -: ICAHN at it again with CLX???
[10:28 am] ltacher : my notes in the chart itself to see if i can catch the same phenomena
[10:29 am] rusty : nice fill mike
[10:29 am] mikewd2 -: CLX s 70.5
[10:29 am] joeytsa : mike: 70.5?
[10:31 am] mikewd2 -: covered 69.65 thanks Junior
[10:31 am] mikewd2 -: 300
[10:31 am] joeytsa : still a good trade
[10:31 am] joeytsa : hope you had 1000 shares...really nice trade
[10:31 am] apple : thx junior CLX 70.46
[10:32 am] ltacher : I see it on TNA leg down follow with a small bounce
[10:32 am] doji : PANL
[10:33 am] ltacher : PANL looks like a frog ..
[10:33 am] doji : I shorted from the open but covered at around 51.5...
[10:33 am] doji : PANL support 49.5
[10:34 am] ltacher : Mitch mention this morning SHORT over night may take it on a bounce back ..
[10:34 am] apple : great job doji[10:35 am] ltacher : I am watching it as swing daily BAR
[10:35 am] ltacher : awesome job DOJI
[10:35 am] joeytsa : those multi-point moves pay the mortgage for a couple of months
[10:35 am] joeytsa : great trade doji[10:35 am] doji : I posted here before the market open... did anyone of you take it?
[10:36 am] mikewd2 -: no shares at etrade[10:36 am] doji : TDA has
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: i'll get them there next time
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: have acct there also
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: CLX breaking out
[10:37 am] ltacher : what time did you posted ..
[10:38 am] mikewd2 -: any news on CLX
[10:39 am] doji : PANL at yesterday's support @ 49.5
[10:39 am] doji : Itcaher, right before the market opened
[10:40 am] doji : 6:26AM I answered your questions regarding my options for the day
[10:41 am] rusty : CLX is Icahn news
[10:42 am] sonorant : what kind of news?
[10:42 am] mikewd2 -: wants auction for CLX to get $78 bid, or he will offer that to buy
[10:43 am] rusty : Icahn seeking to replace CLX board
[10:44 am] ltacher : is bouncing back 49.80
[10:44 am] candelas : I'm still short from this am PANL
[10:45 am] ltacher : nice Candelas .. good eye ..
[10:45 am] candelas : thx
[10:46 am] sonorant : Thanks Mike and rusty
[10:46 am] ltacher : I would live it in my screen sitting to do the job by it self ..
[10:46 am] ltacher : adding another screen today now i have 6 .. 17 inch
[10:46 am] candelas : nice
[10:48 am] ltacher : yep I may buy another DESK because they are not fitting in my DESK may buy this screen extension s to fit them all in ..
[10:48 am] doji : TNA
[10:48 am] Brent : have you looked into a monitor stand Itacher?
[10:49 am] sonorant : Nice work on PANL candelas
[10:49 am] ltacher : monitor stand uh I have..
[10:50 am] ltacher : any suggestion brent not expensive
[10:50 am] candelas : i paid 157 for hex stand
[10:50 am] candelas : easymountlcd.com
[10:51 am] ltacher : nice .thank you
[10:51 am] garyb : Itacher you have 6 monitors hooked up?? wow!
[10:52 am] ltacher : yeah I have four computer
[10:52 am] garyb : what a setup
[10:54 am] sonorant : What made you stay in candelas?
[10:54 am] sonorant : I shorted PANL several times this morning, but always exited
[10:54 am] ltacher : candelas thank you for the suggestion is cheaper then buying a desk ....for sure
[10:54 am] doji : I'd like to buy a new desktop
[10:54 am] doji : Have anyone heard about tradingcomputersnow.com?
[10:54 am] candelas : I like setup on daily so I am holding 1/4 of position for swing
[10:55 am] candelas : I banked nice amount on other 3/4
[10:55 am] qwert : entry
[10:55 am] qwert : candles what's your avg. on panl[10:55 am] garyb : Check out this guy's setup! lol http://www.dualmonitorsworld.com/2011/07/pict ures-of-multiple-monitor-trading-setups/trade 7/
[10:55 am] doji : I am using currently two laptops and 4 screens and plan to move to one Desktop with 6 screens mounted in a stand
[10:55 am] Brent : Itacher, with these you can stack them vertical
[10:55 am] Brent : it will save desk space. Not sure if it's less than your desk extension
[10:55 am] Brent : http://www.amazon.com/Vertical-Freestanding-M onitor-Widescreen-Displays/dp/B003XZVTJ0/ref= sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8& qid=1314726866&sr=1-8
[10:56 am] candelas : 53.22
[10:56 am] Brent : we are working on overtrading
[10:56 am] Brent : hey, I'm coaching that guy right now garyb[10:57 am] qwert : nice candelas
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: nice
[10:57 am] ltacher : doji looks good because you can lease ,, like it
[10:57 am] junior : out CLX short 1 pt.
[10:57 am] garyb : lol[10:57 am] candelas : u take that trade also
[10:57 am] candelas : thx
[10:58 am] qwert : was that your first trade of the day
[10:58 am] qwert : just missed the entry so i passed but been watching
[10:58 am] Brent : nice trade junior
[10:59 am] junior : thx guys
[10:59 am] doji : If that is Kris on the 100 monitors now I understand why he had an issue with his vision yesterday
[10:59 am] candelas : yes
[10:59 am] candelas : great discipline Qwert[11:00 am] sonorant : yes, impressive
[11:00 am] Kris : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4adBm7_AN9I
[11:00 am] Kris : http://gizmodo.com/5015730/emperor-workstatio n-belongs-in-the-death-star-my-office
[11:00 am] candelas : my eyes had to get adjusted this am
[11:01 am] ltacher : I see mitch set up in the web site ito get the idea ..looks fantastic
[11:01 am] doji : How many monitors Mitch uses, anyone knows?
[11:01 am] Brent : there are 4 monitor stands too Itacher[11:01 am] Brent : 1 stand holds 4 monitors
[11:02 am] ltacher : got it brent screen on top of each other nice brent you may my day i feel like in a jungle full wires and monitors
[11:02 am] candelas : stand definitely help free up space
[11:02 am] Brent : just depends on what works the best for your area
[11:03 am] sonorant : Did you rent it or buy, or have it on hand?
[11:03 am] sonorant : Candelas, are you operating off a generator now?
[11:03 am] ltacher : that would condense my desk awesome now i really going feel better
[11:03 am] candelas : yes
[11:04 am] rusty : As long as everyone is sharing the trading setups here is my budget setup http://www.anirudhsethireport.com/wp-content/ uploads/2010/11/homeless_daytrader-520-300x18 2.jpg
[11:04 am] ltacher : I think Mitch changed he set up .. now
[11:04 am] Kris : ever heard of zipties rusty?
[11:04 am] Kris : dude
[11:04 am] doji : Hey Itacher, send me a picture of your office, I'll send you mine... you got my e-mail
[11:04 am] candelas : he lives in the country go figure, it normally take 3 weeks for their power
[11:04 am] candelas : had it, but lent it to my 87 year old friend sunday and he got power yesterday
[11:05 am] sonorant : wow - but I am not sure I would have the guts to trade off a generator
[11:05 am] rusty : Etrade hi low scanner mostly
[11:05 am] Kris : The HomeBoy Trading Network
[11:05 am] doji : Nice setup Rusty....lol[11:05 am] Brent : hey rusty, what scanner do you use?
[11:06 am] Kris : I couldn't afford the tilting chair so I just tipped mine over.
[11:06 am] Kris : http://www.coool-stuff.com/wp-content/uploads /2008/05/computer322.jpg
[11:06 am] candelas : I know, he is like a father to me. Don't think would do for just anybody
[11:06 am] Brent : yeah Rusty heard about Mitch's new desk, so he's trying to find a taller box
[11:06 am] Brent : I think that guy is watching Highlander
[11:07 am] doji : Jesus, Mitch gained a lot of weight and grey hair also!!!
[11:07 am] candelas : LOLLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLO
[11:07 am] apple : you guys are just too funny today...
[11:08 am] rusty : kris....delayed LOL for zipties[11:08 am] ltacher : I have joke today but I going to prove read it firt before i write it let me work on it
[11:08 am] Kris : Highlander!
[11:08 am] Kris : good one bert[11:08 am] Kris : http://cdn.furniturefashion.com/image/2009/12 /Star%20Wars%20Furniture%20Han%20Solo%20Offic e%20Desk.jpg
[11:09 am] Kris : here is candelas' last trading system
[11:09 am] Brent : nice
[11:10 am] Kris : lol[11:10 am] Kris : http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae3/Scotts 101/funny_pictures_ghetto_computer.jpg
[11:10 am] Kris : he built it himself
[11:10 am] candelas : lolol[11:10 am] Brent : that was right after he leveraged himself with 2 shares
[11:11 am] rusty : you can use that puter with this headphone set http://2pep.com/funny%20pics/laughing%20humor ous%20pictures/super_funny_cute%20images_6e7a 2237a65977ccdfc2f6840624ee19.jpg
[11:11 am] Kris : literally
[11:11 am] Kris : his 2 share trade was busted
[11:11 am] candelas : thx for bumping my shares up
[11:11 am] Brent : Is that Jaime Fox?
[11:12 am] Kris : that thing saved me 50 bucks
[11:13 am] Kris : http://flatrock.org.nz/topics/info_and_tech/a ssets/messy_desk_contest_winner.jpg
[11:13 am] Kris : Here is berts setup...
[11:13 am] Kris : Bert loves Dad's rootbeer[11:13 am] Brent : Diet Dad's thanks to your wedding invitation Kert[11:14 am] Kris : P90X!
[11:14 am] Kris : I need a break, be back in 30
[11:14 am] garyb : TNA has lift off!
[11:14 am] doji : TNA guys!
[11:14 am] Brent : you aren't going to recognize me. I'm down 3 lbs[11:15 am] mhaus : MAT
[11:15 am] ltacher : alert in the house DIG
[11:21 am] ltacher : remember TNA may go to lows 60's so we day trade it on her way up ..
[11:26 am] ltacher : UPRO let go upro move up please
[11:27 am] ltacher : anybody shorting RIMM
[11:30 am] rusty : JVA hod[11:30 am] doji : It seems the market will end at the highs today
[11:33 am] rusty : MWW radar
[11:34 am] qwert : anyone else having connection issues with lightspeed[11:35 am] lightning : qwert, my lightspeed connection seems to be fine.
[11:35 am] joeytsa : qwert ; i am on, but not getting any fo the riser/fallers or ticker alert
[11:36 am] ronfrac : Mitch: Do any of these DIg,TNA,UPRO look like swing trades?
[11:36 am] qwert : i keep getting connection to quote lost followed by connection to quote ok
[11:36 am] joeytsa : qwert : is there a way to have separate trading pages on different monitors?
[11:37 am] rusty : PCLN hod[11:37 am] qwert : joey cant you just spread your workspace to all monitors?
[11:37 am] joeytsa : i just logged out/back in...getting the tickers no
[11:37 am] joeytsa : have had that happen today
[11:38 am] qwert : luckily only in swings with stops placed
[11:38 am] qwert : just did it again no level 2
[11:39 am] joeytsa : qwert : not sure, i have a 2nd monitor for my laptop, but have 6 different 'pages"...trying to figure how to put 1 page on 1 monitor etc[11:39 am] candelas : hod amzn[11:40 am] qwert : not me
[11:40 am] Mitch K: you guys aren't doing anything dumb now are you?
[11:40 am] Mitch K: like going after marginal ideas with too much money
[11:40 am] Mitch K: EYES, you got to change mindset
[11:40 am] mikewd2 -: shorted SINA, is that dumb?
[11:40 am] mikewd2 -: 105.47
[11:40 am] joeytsa : trying not to
[11:40 am] eyes-inthenow : I know I need help
[11:40 am] eyes-inthenow : I am
[11:40 am] doji : Shorted PANL, is that dumb?
[11:40 am] candelas : like giving money back
[11:41 am] mhaus : just closed TNA long. Now looking for TZA long
[11:41 am] candelas : staying disciplined waiting for highest probable setups
[11:41 am] candelas : or as u would said "the good ones"
[11:42 am] ltacher : TNA and TZA are getting married soon .. and later they have little baby's call TNATZ
[11:42 am] joeytsa : negative divergence at the 1212.75 level on the ES...lets see what happens
[11:42 am] eyes-inthenow : I get in the positions and get out way to soon and then I see a good setup and don't get in
[11:42 am] mikewd2 -: covered 104.8
[11:43 am] vans : TNA may take off from here, be careful tza[11:44 am] sonorant : Mitch, I think the hardest part is not getting distracted by the jokes and then missing the good ones!
[11:44 am] garyb : Itacher lol!
[11:45 am] sonorant : I said that backwards, but you get the gist.
[11:45 am] ronfrac : Yeah, but it's a lot warmer here than in PA or NJ
[11:45 am] mikewd2 -: Mitch, did you comment on TNA, UPRO, etc. If we were long should we continue to hold.[11:45 am] mhaus : Mitch, I came in late today, say a quick $200 in TNA and grabbed it
[11:45 am] ltacher : Mitch I thought you change your set up may I ask ..
[11:45 am] garyb : Itacher..that's why we trade TZA & TNA.....it's part of TSA! lol[11:46 am] sonorant : Well, when I am in a trade I ignore it, but when I am waiting.....
[11:46 am] Mitch K: don't read all the stuff sonorant, close down the chat when you have to concentrate
[11:46 am] joeytsa : qwert: lightspeed website running really slow, wonder if they are having issues
[11:47 am] qwert : yeah i have no level2
[11:47 am] joeytsa : site wont load up fully either
[11:47 am] derns : Thx for the reminder Mitch..you came in just in time..I was going to make a trade on TZOO, "thinking" too much..I am passing
[11:48 am] sonorant : I need to get a scanner up and running, then I can look at that
[11:48 am] qwert : i think it's on there end my esignal and scanner is working fine
[11:48 am] lightning : Lightspeed appears to be working fine here.
[11:49 am] ronfrac : Mitch: at these times I find using 1 min,15 min, and 30 min stocks holds me in at iffy times. Thanks
[11:49 am] Mitch K: Eyes, you are a very emotional trader and the way to combat that is to get really good at one thing, just one little technique and just work that until you are a master at it. I se you jump around a lot, chasing various techniques and I see you trading futures now. You want be good at futures if you can't control yourself with stocks. not to pick on you but this may help others.
[11:50 am] Mitch K: just get good at one technique, just one. And all the aspects of that one including the chart pattern, the settings, the procedures
[11:51 am] rusty : NVAX SVA still worth watching
[11:51 am] rusty : danged missed SVA
[11:51 am] Mitch K: don't worry about what other people are doing, what they are buying, just focus on one stock idea in front of you. and you build baby steps on that
[11:52 am] vans : starting to go now;
[11:52 am] vans : cant believe cog hasn't fallen yet.
[11:52 am] Mitch K: There are a lot of ways to make money in the financial markets. You only need to know one way
[11:52 am] leo : Mitch I need that mental control too. Thnx.
[11:52 am] garyb : Personally I only trade a couple stock symbols so I can focus on the technique.
[11:53 am] ltacher : Mitch i believed is up or down or side way is that a correct analogy
[11:53 am] leo : But I don't know which one to use Mitch, example please.
[11:54 am] Mitch K: what happens to most people, especially when starting off and don't have a strategy worked out yet for yourself. What people do is see all this exciting stuff going on, quotes flashing, ideas in the room, from others, all creates emotions
[11:55 am] rusty : sounds and feels like a casino
[11:55 am] Mitch K: it looks exciting, right?
[11:55 am] Mitch K: i got a quick story, i will try to make it short
[11:55 am] Mitch K: but the excitement isn't what makes money
[11:55 am] eyes-inthenow : Here are some examples of what I mean Panl s 53.59 out 52.89 L TNA 46.68 out 46.10 S LPS 17.58 out 17.40 all 100 shares
[11:56 am] rusty : ty[11:56 am] rusty : except no one at TSA comps my drinks
[11:56 am] mikewd2 -: yeah rusty, what up with that!
[11:56 am] Kris : rusty is the distracting table dancer
[11:57 am] rusty : Yahoo + NYT rumor
[11:57 am] rusty : NY Times
[11:57 am] rusty : i shaved my legs for u kris[11:57 am] Kris : Yahoo Times
[11:57 am] garyb : eyes..you should do the opposite of what you think you should do! lol[11:58 am] mikewd2 -: shorted CLX at 72, got stopped out - bummer. now 70
[11:58 am] mikewd2 -: first day i trade with stops on every trade, proud of myself!
[11:59 am] qwert : eyes try breaking up exit even if you only have 100 shares and leave 2nd half at break even until trade is way in your favor
[11:59 am] joeytsa : its aggravating to have your stop hit and then the move you expected to be made
[11:59 am] joeytsa : good for you mike..we talked about that yesterday
[11:59 am] joeytsa : but better safe than sorry
[11:59 am] mikewd2 -: 6/9 wins today
[12:00 pm] Mitch K: Year 2000, I'm in line to pick up my kids from Sunday school. guy comes up to me and says "Hey I heard you trade stocks." I said yeah, a little bit (lol). He said “What do you do, i mean trading style?" I said "Oh a couple little things i like to do. (evasive)." I asked what he likes to do. He says scalping. I said scalping? the spreads were huge, commissions were 3 cents a share plus $25 one way for this guy who was going to a trading room.
[12:00 pm] mikewd2 -: better than yesterday for sure
[12:00 pm] gecko : markets hitting a wall
[12:00 pm] gecko : if they go through will get bounce
[12:01 pm] sonorant : Mike, same thing happened to me on CLX
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : i missed a few really nice runners today
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : mike: did you have a really tight stop on CLX?
[12:03 pm] sonorant : Yes, very good point.
[12:03 pm] rusty : hmmm sounds familiar
[12:03 pm] Mitch K: I said that won't work. the math isn't there. By that time his wife was turning around looking at me with fear all over her face. I repeated, the mathematics won't work for that. He says "Yeah, but is a rush." I said "Do you want a rush or do you want to make money?" (his wife getting real uncomfortable). In 4 weeks he goes bust from $100,000 to zero, gone. All because he had no strategy, no system, big ego and very emotional.
[12:04 pm] sonorant : that work with that technique
[12:04 pm] sonorant : And you have to find the entries....
[12:04 pm] Mitch K: you can learn to control the emotions and the ego goes away just staying in the business. All you have to do is learn one thing, just one simple little technique
[12:04 pm] leo : Mitch, what techniques should we learn first?
[12:04 pm] joeytsa : in 2000, average person was just happy to be able to daytrade..no clue what they were doing or when they were being fleeced
[12:04 pm] gecko : great question leo[12:04 pm] mikewd2 -: actually joey shorted at 41.7, stop at 42.2 little over 1%
[12:05 pm] mikewd2 -: was actually 71.7
[12:05 pm] sonorant : computers and the charting programs have changed everything
[12:05 pm] Mitch K: the problem with us, men are the mostly guilty ones on this, when you first start trading, you have the misconception that you need to know a whole lot about the markets, all the indicators, various techniques.... but you don't. all you need is what? One simple technique
[12:05 pm] mikewd2 -: thought it was until you asked about my stop.
[12:05 pm] mhaus : eyes, I have the same prop
[12:05 pm] joeytsa : mike: i thought you mentioned you shorted CLX at 72
[12:05 pm] eyes-inthenow : Mitch I have gone from trading 2000 shares at a time to 100 my problem is getting out way to soon
[12:05 pm] apple : back in time for the discussion
[12:06 pm] mhaus : It is better that loosing 5 dollars
[12:06 pm] mhaus : I look at it this way. I did not have those 5 dollars before, now I do
[12:06 pm] mhaus : I have the same problem, but as long as I am in the green I don't complain
[12:07 pm] vans : But when you play with such a small potential, it is very easy to lose that 5 $
[12:07 pm] sonorant : I shorted at 71.63 and made a little..
[12:07 pm] mikewd2 -: I saved a bundle with stops today, the old me would have rode SINA up when shorted at 99 and maybe doubled down part way up.
[12:07 pm] mhaus : *than loosing*
[12:07 pm] joeytsa : totally agree Mitch...mine was gap plays, now im trying to add other techniques
[12:07 pm] joeytsa : good for you mike
[12:07 pm] derns : Mitch..time for my daily update on TNA, TQQQ, UPRO...I added after a drop today..you still like the swing trade to continue?
[12:08 pm] sonorant : But I am getting nickel and dimed when my tight stops get hit, and then I don't get the trade....
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: well, mhaus, try to adjust that thinking. your job is to execute that strategy, work it correctly. and don't even look at the money. try to collapse the part of your platform that shows profits and losses. Most of your eyeball time should be on the indicators, the chart, and most of that eyeball time is on the indicators, not the price portion of the chart.
[12:08 pm] mikewd2 -: Also took this up market as opportunity to get unleveraged and reduce my holdings in one stock to no more than 10%
[12:08 pm] joeytsa : i have been trading on/off for 12 years..still have lots to learn myself
[12:09 pm] sonorant : Which indicators specifically Mitch are most important?
[12:09 pm] Mitch K: you do what i just said in the last paragraph, you will double or triple your profit per trade.
[12:09 pm] Mitch K: say it out loud to yourself, mostly watch the indicators, not the price
[12:10 pm] sonorant : Guilty -- I am watching the price, not the indicators
[12:10 pm] Mitch K: if you watch the price part of the chart, the candles, you will talk yourself out of selling much sooner than you should
[12:10 pm] mikewd2 -: that's a hard one mitch, I'm very guilty of violating that one
[12:10 pm] mikewd2 -: i got out of bidu long way to early.
[12:10 pm] mikewd2 -: and DANG
[12:10 pm] mhaus : Mitch I do that, but sometimes the stock breaks resistance and shoots up. Mu stop is at or a few pennies below resistance.
[12:10 pm] gecko : dji new highs
[12:10 pm] eyes-inthenow : MHAUS don't get me wrong I am doing better that is my biggest weakness but you cannot live off of 5 dollars I have been doing this for a long time rather than learn first i used real money a lot of it so i have had bad habits that i am constantly working on
[12:11 pm] sonorant : Thanks.
[12:11 pm] sonorant : Mitch again? Do you mean you end up selling too soon, or too late?
[12:11 pm] Mitch K: you will sell to soon if you spend most of your time watching price
[12:11 pm] Mitch K: i like moving averages and stochastics sonorant
[12:11 pm] mhaus : "5" was just a number. You can substitute it with any number.
[12:11 pm] garyb : MACD too Mitch?
[12:12 pm] sonorant : And are you also advising a 1% stop? That is so wide it terrifies me.
[12:12 pm] Mitch K: watching the candles move around creates a panicky type of emotion, am I right or right?
[12:12 pm] Mitch K: great to hear gary
[12:12 pm] mikewd2 -: i find MACD a bit late to make the sell or buy
[12:12 pm] mhaus : Mitch, I go by resistance on the charts and set my stops accordingly
[12:12 pm] mhaus : is that a good strategy or should I change?
[12:12 pm] garyb : Mitch I have been following what you teach on your DVD (the one when you join the TSA) and it's working wonders!
[12:13 pm] Mitch K: MACD means moving average convergence divergence, so it is a moving average but i literally look at moving averages themselves that are buried behind the candles.
[12:13 pm] mikewd2 -: just received Steve Nison's candle charting, essentials and beyond DVD's. Haven't gone thru them yet.
[12:13 pm] garyb : Made a BIG difference in my trading!
[12:14 pm] sonorant : Okay, my discipline for tomorrow will be indicators!
[12:14 pm] sonorant : I know that is on the DVD, but which ones are you using again?
[12:14 pm] ronfrac : Mitch: You're right. You got me looking at the indicators and I spend most of my time doing that. I'm more comfortable holding longer. making more money and more successful trades.
[12:14 pm] Mitch K: right. ron[12:15 pm] sonorant : Moving averages sma 10 and sma20?
[12:15 pm] Mitch K: just use 2 simple moving averages and a full stochastic sonorant.
[12:15 pm] mikewd2 -: thanks Mitch for your patience with us and your constant teaching.
[12:15 pm] mhaus : I place my entry points per your DVDs and stops per resistance
[12:16 pm] sonorant : Yes, this is where the "beef" is.
[12:16 pm] ltacher : Mitch I agree I always remember what you say I don't know why but sticks to my brain .. thank you grate anology[12:16 pm] joeytsa : Mitch..these lessons are invaluable to all traders
[12:17 pm] mriguy -: I think moving averages and stochs work great finding swing and intermediate trade ideas. I am busy at work many days and don't always get to scalp. But I like getting longer term ideas that I can briefly look in on. I love those ideas.
[12:17 pm] Mitch K: i spent some time teaching my kids who are in college now about trading. using virtual accounts. i made them talk out loud what they were thinking and what they were about to do and what they just did.
[12:17 pm] mikewd2 -: plan on changing platforms but I'm waiting for the webinar to see some of the charting tools etc in action.
[12:17 pm] joeytsa : that why i keep a notebook next to me, write down every nugget of advice
[12:17 pm] ronfrac : Mitch: I've been using 5/15 SMA and Stoc Slow. I'll compare the full and 10/20 SMA to these tomorrow.
[12:18 pm] joeytsa : i use the 5/15 also ron for daytrades[12:18 pm] ltacher : Loving DIG holding it
[12:18 pm] sonorant : Mitch, was it the 10/20 SMA?
[12:19 pm] Mitch K: and I would say something like..... why did you sell then? silence. then i would say, you looked at the profit didn't you? lol. Or I would say you looked at the price. because I don't see any sell signal.
[12:19 pm] joeytsa : no such thing as perfection
[12:19 pm] gecko : i.e. maybe better to stick to one system and use it
[12:19 pm] gecko : i wonder if searching for perfect ema etc can hurt
[12:19 pm] gecko : for simplicity
[12:20 pm] terry : I've been using a 5 and 15 second chart for daytrading and its working great for me
[12:20 pm] Mitch K: yeah, i like that setting still after all these years terry
[12:20 pm] Mitch K: garyb, i would
[12:20 pm] joeytsa : spent many hours during off hours trying to find the 'golden key'
[12:20 pm] joeytsa : 5 second chart??
[12:20 pm] gecko : then when doing really well fine tune
[12:20 pm] garyb : Mitch I kind of look at my profit because I have a goal to hit every day. Once I hit that goal I know I can get out and play a little golf if I wanted
[12:21 pm] sonorant : You like which setting? 5 and 15 second?
[12:21 pm] sonorant : Ok, thanks
[12:21 pm] Mitch K: not seconds
[12:21 pm] Mitch K: no not 5 sec, im sorry, i meant 5 bar (same as period) and 15 for the slow moving average
[12:21 pm] Mitch K: no
[12:22 pm] tennisball : Mitch, thank you so very much.
[12:22 pm] sonorant : And stops?
[12:22 pm] Mitch K: whatever your interval of your chart is that you set, let's say a 1 min, a 5 setting means 5 bars and if you have a 1 min chart, that means you are using the data from the previous 5 bars or 5 minutes to draw the 5 moving average (5ma)
[12:22 pm] ltacher : terry you meant 5 and 15 min
[12:23 pm] terry : the 5 second chart is more real time for entrys and exits
[12:23 pm] sonorant : Yes, makes sense ... it adjusts to the time frame used for the chart.
[12:23 pm] leo : I am using 10 and 30 sec SMA as Mitch's DVD.
[12:23 pm] eyes-inthenow : Terry a 5 second chart
[12:25 pm] Mitch K: back to garyb's comments about the goal for the day. I would rather you not weight too heavily the daily goal but focus more on when you stop seeing the quality ideas. For scalping, the quality and frequency of ideas are mostly occurring in the first 90 minutes and next 2 weeks you should see a significant increase in quality and quantity after Labor day weekend
[12:25 pm] mikewd2 -: minutes, leo?
[12:26 pm] sonorant : Mitch, can you say a word about stops? I set them, but would like to know about how tightly they should be set. And all of this is invaluable.
[12:26 pm] ltacher : U an using 5 ma and 20 ma once they cross i can get a better signal on the trade then I look a slow stoch ..then MAC D and the trend lines and the volume and look one min 5 15 30 daily for direction
[12:26 pm] joeytsa : Mitch : what about swing/int...i still use stochastics/macd along with the 20/50/200 ma's
[12:26 pm] candelas : nice, I will get a raise
[12:27 pm] Mitch K: gary, in a slower sense you are looking at the money overall. and I really think that's the wrong focus. Think about executing well, scanning for another 2-3 ideas coming down the pipeline
[12:27 pm] ltacher : Mitch is that okay ..
[12:28 pm] garyb : Okay Mitch, thank you I will focus more on technique
[12:28 pm] garyb : Like I said, from what I learned from your DVD is incredible.....I will join your seminar as well because of that..I want to build on my technique
[12:29 pm] apple : thx MK for the all the help today, good review
[12:30 pm] Mitch K: ok, stop losses, most of the time, a high percentage of time, if you have a good setup, your stops won't be hit. BECAUSE, (important) the odds are really setup to go your way on a proper setup. If you are always getting stopped out, then you either have a marginal idea you are chasing or you aren't entering the trade at the right time, usually too early.
[12:31 pm] sonorant : Okay, but you still have to set a stop, .....
[12:31 pm] Mitch K: I'm not sure what some of the experienced traders would say about, like Kris, or Brent, candles, rusty, others. but that's been my observation.
[12:31 pm] leo : Mitch I was hit by 3, 4 stops which ate all my profits.
[12:32 pm] leo : I mean 3, 4 stops a day.
[12:32 pm] sonorant : So how far out are your stops?
[12:32 pm] mikewd2 -: i hit 3 also leo, today
[12:32 pm] mikewd2 -: 1% usually
[12:32 pm] mhaus : You are right. I usually hit my stops when I enter the trade too early and not when the SMA cross
[12:32 pm] leo : 1%
[12:32 pm] gecko : markets moving
[12:33 pm] sonorant : Mitch -- 1%?
[12:33 pm] Mitch K: i think of stops as "just in case" something happens in the market or that company's stock with maybe news that would drive it out of the range a normal chart would give
[12:33 pm] mikewd2 -: i think that's my probably also mhaus, too early.
[12:33 pm] leo : If I use more than 1% the loss is bigger
[12:33 pm] gecko : tna going to hit 50
[12:33 pm] candelas : I use to get stopped very often and you helped me with that
[12:33 pm] candelas : for Me Mitch I would agree, I get stopped very few times now
[12:34 pm] Mitch K: yeah, i figured candles. through time and experience and you build proficiency, getting stopped out gets less and less frequent
[12:34 pm] Mitch K: i like bigger stops than most people but it becomes a style or an interpretation after awhile.
[12:34 pm] mikewd2 -: if I used more than 1%, hindsight I would have been good on most trades
[12:34 pm] mhaus : have to go now, but I will read the PDF later. Thanks Mitch for the advice.
[12:35 pm] stevemld : ANF continuing a nice 3 day move
[12:35 pm] mikewd2 -: hard not to look at profits, Mitch in TNA average at 38.33
[12:35 pm] gecko : nice surge
[12:35 pm] doji : TNA broke 50
[12:36 pm] terry : try TNA on the 5 second chart now
[12:36 pm] Mitch K: let me look at what you guys are talking about on 5 sec charts, this doesn't sound right what some of you said earlier about seconds.
[12:36 pm] mikewd2 -: but they will look better when TNA breaks 60
[12:36 pm] ltacher : wow all my screen i see all green
[12:36 pm] ltacher : Mitch is the news weigh more on the stock price movement or the technical analysis weigh more on the movement
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: you guys have time for this, might be distracting
[12:37 pm] Mitch K: no ltacher, you are looking at the money, same with you mikewd2
[12:37 pm] garyb : Yes...I am just watching TNA and smiling....so I have all the time in the world right now!
[12:38 pm] Mitch K: there is a 5 second chart on SINA, using an esignal chart
[12:38 pm] Mitch K: i just think that's too short of an interval, you will develop schizophrenia or multiple personalities
[12:38 pm] doji : My problem is that I am always looking for a good entry price and then lose the trade
[12:38 pm] doji : I was too afraid today with TNA and look at where it is now
[12:38 pm] doji : I am sure if I take it now, tomorrow it will be down
[12:39 pm] Mitch K: see that? 30s = 30 seconds
[12:39 pm] Mitch K: if you guys insist on 5 second charts, i am here and now going to say you wont make near the money on that. the transaction cost in itself is going to eat most of your profits up
[12:39 pm] ltacher : wow now I am getting confuse 30s= to one min
[12:39 pm] joeytsa : i can't figure out what to do with that
[12:40 pm] sonorant : Mitch, I think the 5 second idea was a mistake!
[12:40 pm] rusty : might as well just use a tick chart
[12:40 pm] rusty : lol[12:40 pm] Mitch K: then we will both go nuts
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: that is as short as i would use
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: someone asked about TNA on a 5 second chart, this one above is a 30 second chart
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: right rusty
[12:41 pm] sonorant : So you have 5 and 20 SMAs on these charts....
[12:41 pm] Mitch K: what do you mean sonorant, you mean some people misinterpreted or are saying the wrong thing or i am misreading the text?
[12:41 pm] joeytsa : i use ticks on futures..but not on stocks
[12:42 pm] sonorant : I think people didn't mean 5 second charts -- I think someone made a mistake when talking about 5 sec. SMA.... but I would have to back up to make sure.
[12:43 pm] terry : I'm using the 5 and 15 second chart side by side
[12:43 pm] sonorant : I think most people are using 1 minute charts
[12:43 pm] Mitch K: someone asked to comment on TNA or UPRO or TQQQ and what to do with that.
[12:43 pm] Mitch K: just a sec, let me change something
[12:43 pm] derns : yes...I did...I just put in some high reaching sell orders, but would like your thots on a continued swing
[12:43 pm] ltacher : totally confuse I stick to mu guns .. 5 15 30 d
[12:44 pm] Mitch K: ok this is a 3 min chart
[12:44 pm] doji : Yes Mitch, is it too late to enter in TNA now that it's at 50?
[12:45 pm] Mitch K: let me pull up a daily chart next to it
[12:45 pm] ltacher : exactly what you said Mitch heading to the 61's on TNA incredible
[12:46 pm] sonorant : we're with you
[12:46 pm] Mitch K: let me back up, I'm trying to figure out how to explain this
[12:46 pm] Mitch K: daily chart on left ok, 3 min chart on right
[12:47 pm] Mitch K: I'm trying to figure out how to explain what I see into an actionable statement for you
[12:48 pm] Mitch K: well, one point i wanted to make was that the market was strong yesterday, Monday, and particularly bullish on what we call a thin market, low volume but heavily weighted toward the long side, bullish right
[12:48 pm] derns : no worries..ready when you are
[12:49 pm] terry : the 3s chart shows tna coming down before the 3m chart dose
[12:49 pm] qwert : yep
[12:49 pm] Mitch K: many of the indexes went to new highs, if you get the dsr and watch the video, that's what I mentioned. now i know, statistically, for some strange reason, that only about 40-50% of the dsr subscribers watch the video.
[12:49 pm] ltacher : yes
[12:49 pm] derns : yes...and a 3 day weekend coming
[12:50 pm] sonorant : probably because it is quicker to scan the text than listen to the video -- but there is always more teaching in the video.
[12:50 pm] Mitch K: you will learn a lot more if you watch the video. Not an ego problem on my part but if you are really trying to get good at this, which means make more money, i would watch it.
[12:50 pm] Mitch K: I think I know why that is and it isn't a healthy reason
[12:50 pm] Mitch K: by the way, I give more detail on the video than in text
[12:51 pm] shark : good to see you everyday Mitch. You go well into detail on TECHNICAL STRATEGY
[12:51 pm] rd : watching all this it seems you get the bulk of the trade when the 5 crosses the 20 either direction and then hang in there until it changes direction.
[12:51 pm] Mitch K: right sonorant
[12:51 pm] mikewd2 -: the video is short, no excuse not to listen
[12:52 pm] rusty : JVA coming back to earth
[12:52 pm] qwert : yes
[12:52 pm] Mitch K: that was the high day right see that
[12:52 pm] Mitch K: anyhow, the big move yesterday that broke through many indexes to higher highs than that high here in the blue line I'm drawing now.....
[12:52 pm] ltacher : I have your report watching huge help for me it helps me to stay calm and confident
[12:52 pm] Mitch K: looks like august 15th
[12:53 pm] sonorant : Yes, slightly higher than the top of the middle of the "W"
[12:55 pm] ltacher : mitch so we should expect a drop and take some profits off the table before the week end or reducing .. I am not sure if i am getting ahead of my self
[12:55 pm] doji : Traders taking profits at the close
[12:55 pm] terry : the 5second chart got me out of tna at 50.05
[12:56 pm] sonorant : I think you're right doji[12:57 pm] sonorant : because of the run up, yes?
[12:57 pm] rusty : how you know its profits doji?
[12:58 pm] ronfrac : Mitch: When you setup STOC Fast do you use 10,8,7 periods?
[12:58 pm] Mitch K: so I figured there would be a good chance at having a follow through today. so what I was thinking when I saw the indexes open down a little, climb up a little, then the consumer confidence came out and dropped the market
[12:58 pm] Mitch K: and then we saw TNA go into the positive here
[12:58 pm] mikewd2 -: I've found it's easier to watch TNA go up without selling the long, if you have some shares that you daytrade.
[12:58 pm] doji : MWW is a monsters!
[12:59 pm] qwert : goodnight everyone thanks for awesome calls
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: i filled TNA around 47.74
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: and when it pulled back, all the ETFs i am interested in, TQQQ, TNA, UPRO DDM, i bought on that pullback here around 47.50 area
[12:59 pm] mikewd2 -: were those for day trades Mitch
[12:59 pm] ltacher : why the market ignored bad numbers and did not drop the market hard .. now I am using psychology mitch[12:59 pm] apple : thx MK, K and B and everyone for a great day - have a wonderful evening
[01:00 pm] sonorant : smart.
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: you have to realize that markets tend to return to neutral a high, a very high percentage of the time
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: yes mike
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: added to UPRO too, no all swing trade mentality. I didn't even look at the money until just now
[01:00 pm] mikewd2 -: ok, so you're still building UPRO, TNA long positions as its going up
[01:01 pm] Mitch K: doji, you can go long now as well but risk is increasing you get a pullback and get whiplashed, that's why it's really important to keep it a smaller than normal position
[01:01 pm] Mitch K: because honestly, i forgot to finish building out a full long position on the 2nd long helping opportunity
[01:01 pm] mikewd2 -: I've been selling at each high, mainly to get unleveraged.
[01:01 pm] leo : Thank you Mitch, Kris, Brent and comrades. Have a nice one.
[01:01 pm] doji : Yes you can add if you started low in you
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