Chat Highlights From 08/29/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:13 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:23 am] Mitch K: dont you guys ever go on vacation?
[06:23 am] Mitch K: hi guys
[06:27 am] Mitch K: you guys know the routine, the first 30-45 minutes give best ideas.  but don't let that fact drive you to make too big of bets
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching JOY for bottom to buy
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching PM for top to short
[06:31 am] Mitch K: more downside on JOSB
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching SEE for top to short
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching MW for top to short
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching OIS for short soon
[06:34 am] Mitch K: missed TFM top but watching for bototm to buy, more downside first
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching NE for bottom to buy
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching TCAP for short, nevermind, too low vol
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watchign SSYS for top to  short, more upside first
[06:35 am] Mitch K: monitoring WFM, usually a trending stock after pullback, harder stock to short
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching HNZ for top to short
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching SINA for top to short
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching LIFE for top
[06:36 am] Mitch K: monitoring YELP
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching Z for top
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching ag-chemical stocks for bottom:   MOS, AGU, POT
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching UNP for bottom to buy, take time
[06:38 am] Mitch K: for short
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching YELP closer
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching MAKO SSYS closer
[06:39 am] Mitch K: monitoring SPPI
[06:40 am] Mitch K: these stocks that gap up like TFM and sell down hard, these are usually good bouncers at the bottom
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching TFM closer now for bottom
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching DVN for bottom to buy
[06:41 am] Mitch K: forget CBE for now
[06:41 am] Mitch K: consider covering MAKO short soon
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watchinb CBE for top to short, gave spike
[06:42 am] Mitch K: monitoring TEX
[06:42 am] Mitch K: NE same as TFM where had gap up and selling down, watch for bottom to buy
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching BPT for bottom to buy
[06:44 am] Mitch K: from $120 to 82.80
[06:44 am] Mitch K: i am not following news on BPT but 5 big down days in last 8 trading days
[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching RIG for bottom to buy
[06:45 am] Mitch K: monitoring RDC
[06:46 am] Mitch K: BIDU should give trades today, prob trends up
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching TEX closer
[06:47 am] Mitch K: BPT bottoming
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching ESV for bottom to buy
[06:48 am] Mitch K: big potential bounce with BPT
[06:50 am] Mitch K: gee thats a weak bounce in BPT so far
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching ULTA for top to short, take time
[06:52 am] Mitch K: cover OIS short soon
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching SQM for top to short
[06:54 am] Mitch K: ESV bouncingh
[06:55 am] Mitch K: consider covering HNZ short, most of it, see if goes to new low below $56 and hold if it does, cover if it gets stuck here
[06:56 am] Mitch K: watching FSLR for bottom to buy
[06:56 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[06:56 am] Mitch K: looking for 94 area on ULTA
[06:57 am] Mitch K: new low on HNZ means to hold remaining short open
[06:57 am] Mitch K: looking for 19 area on YELP short
[07:00 am] Mitch K: watching CXO for bottom
[07:01 am] Mitch K: SPY bouncing, will help longs
[07:04 am] Mitch K: no sell signal on BPT yet
[07:05 am] Mitch K: to 82
[07:05 am] Mitch K: just remember BPT came down from $120 last week
[07:05 am] Mitch K: looks strong last 10 min
[07:08 am] Mitch K: CXO turning up
[07:11 am] Mitch K: watching YELP for 2nd helping short
[07:12 am] Mitch K: consider selling DVN if long
[07:14 am] Mitch K: BPT a little toppy but no sell signal yet
[07:19 am] Mitch K: of BPT
[07:19 am] Mitch K: that was a juicy one but should get other trades on this today both directions, best to stay on the long side
[07:19 am] Mitch K: getting early sell signal on BPT long position
[07:21 am] Mitch K: looking for under $17 on MAKO short
[07:23 am] Mitch K: im kind of wondering if the comments i make on a stock are helpful or not.  seems like could be distracting, like the comment earlier on the WFM...[06:35 am] Mitch K: monitoring WFM, usually a trending stock after pullback, harder stock to short"
[07:24 am] Mitch K: im wrong a lot on those comments, feeling like a contrarian indicator
[07:24 am] Mitch K: consider covering ULTA if short
[07:25 am] Mitch K: I'd watch MAKO for a long entry, esp if it drops to 16.60 area
[07:25 am] Mitch K: not expecting MAKO to drop much harder than this 17 area, maybe a little more
[07:27 am] Mitch K: the way i would treat the next two days is lower your expectations on the amount of money you are used to making.  just try for a 2-3 small trades each day.
[07:32 am] Mitch K: ESV toppy
[07:43 am] Mitch K: should be good for $1 long
[07:43 am] Mitch K: looking for long entry on BPT soon
[07:51 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[07:58 am] Ed : lower lows on SPY
[08:04 am] Ed : for Advanced traders monitor EQIX next few days first time at 200 level
[08:26 am] Mitch K: watching APKT for short heree soon, micro trade short
[08:45 am] Mitch K: hope you guys made out on the WFM short, 2nd helping was nice
[09:15 am] Ed : monitoring TFM
[09:34 am] Ed : if u were able to take TFM long would reduce
[09:52 am] Mitch K: id watch BPT again for a bottom to buy
[09:53 am] Mitch K: whats deceptive about BPT is the scaling on the price.  a $1 move is pretty easy to see
[10:10 am] Mitch K: watching WFM for 3rd helpin gshort
[10:13 am] Mitch K: monitoring KORS
[10:36 am] Ed : EQIX making new highs
[10:46 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[10:56 am] Ed : one to keep an eye on also AMZN forming nice cup on 15min chart
[11:07 am] Ed : getting pullback in SPY
[11:28 am] Mitch K: those are big short scalps in BPT
[11:29 am] Mitch K: we could get another $1.50 bounce out of BPT long; look for bottom
[11:41 am] Mitch K: Looking for $81 on BPT, probably higher
[11:42 am] Mitch K: anyone buy BPT just recently?
[11:42 am] Mitch K: when BPT peaks, should be a good profitable short as well
[11:43 am] Mitch K: nice entry qwert
[11:44 am] Mitch K: its weak bounce so far, not looking great
[11:45 am] Mitch K: even though you get a sell signal, doesnt mean it should be a mad rush to sell at market, most of the time you can put up a limit order and get a better price
[11:45 am] Mitch K: im getting some early sell signals on BPT qwert
[11:46 am] Mitch K: i dont wait for a new low on it as the 79 area
[11:46 am] Mitch K: the strategy i take now is use the sell signals as a "stop" and as soon as i get that i put a limit order to sell and try to get best price right away
[11:47 am] Mitch K: i also use that sell signal for a short entry, especially on something like BPT that has gone down so much
[11:52 am] Mitch K: still worth watching for a long entry on BPT for quick long and then a short on top of that bounce.  the lower it goes like this the stronger the bounce.  it is still best trade idea we have.  i like the idea but you have to be on top of it and not get distracted
[12:05 pm] Mitch K: you guys still long BPT
[12:06 pm] Mitch K: where did you guys buy on last bottom
[12:06 pm] Mitch K: id look for a sell and a short on BPT soon
[12:07 pm] Mitch K: early sell signal
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: sell at ask price
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: yeah mike, have to work your order
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: you try to get best price but my guess is this will give you more profit on the short side
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: like i said earlier, you dont have to panic sell after a signal is generated
[12:08 pm] Mitch K: or 3-5 cents higher than ask price
[12:12 pm] Mitch K: remember that this has dropped from $120 only 8 trading days ago and BPT can have a violent rebound too although we arent seeing any evidence of that yet.  when you have a stock that drops like that, unless it was for fraud or accounting irregularities, the odds go up exponentially that a rebound is likely. but as you saw earlier,  a bounce or an attempt to profit on the long side can easily fail.
[12:14 pm] Mitch K: look at a daily chart of BPT
[12:18 pm] Mitch K: so far BPT looks too strong to short
[12:22 pm] Ed : VHC alert
[12:24 pm] Mitch K: i was late to post that, was looking at VHC
[12:24 pm] Mitch K: sell signal on BPT
[12:27 pm] Mitch K: anyone go short on BPT?  going to be interesting
[12:33 pm] Mitch K: there is no trade on BPT now
[12:33 pm] Mitch K: very typical of a stock that has gone down so much like BPT to sell off in last half hour of day since it had a 2 point rebound
[12:34 pm] Ed : if u were able to short VHC would cover
[12:56 pm] Ed : have great evening traders
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: qwert yo still here
[01:03 pm] Mitch K: this is BPT
[01:04 pm] Mitch K: then rebound failed and then sell signal
[01:04 pm] Mitch K: that left circle is where we first got a signal long
[01:05 pm] Mitch K: this is when Lightning shines
[01:05 pm] Mitch K: like i have been saying, you want these big swinging stocks
[01:06 pm] Mitch K: it isnt about being stubborn, I just know i can do it
[01:06 pm] Mitch K: but im still not totally happy yet because this should be one candle sooner on all signals so im not going to let this out until i get the signals earlier by 1 candle
[01:08 pm] Mitch K: is lisa here still?
[01:08 pm] Mitch K: wont need that much more time though
[01:08 pm] Mitch K: no, wont be ready by labor day, testing wont be done
[01:08 pm] Mitch K: i think i can get a signal 1 min earlier, 1 candle, on most stocks
[01:12 pm] Mitch K: that 1 candle is a really big deal
[01:12 pm] Mitch K: yes chingo, i understand but i built this for my standards and then i give to you.  wont be long, patience
[01:13 pm] Mitch K: but i am aware of being too perfectionistic where you can get paralysis
[01:13 pm] Mitch K: if you take 1 candle earlier on these = lots of profits
[01:14 pm] Mitch K: thats not the way to trade fictor
[01:14 pm] Mitch K: oh no, you didnt suffer through that big drop did you?
[01:14 pm] Mitch K: what time zone victor, what stock
[01:14 pm] Mitch K: no jsn13, that isnt the tradeoff we are talking about
[01:16 pm] Mitch K: dont trade like that, you got lucky victor
[01:16 pm] Mitch K: victor, you almost broke even then?
[01:18 pm] Mitch K: hey victor, you do that again I am going to have to call you Forrest Gump
[01:19 pm] Mitch K: see you guys tomorrow
[01:20 pm] Mitch K: someone made a lot of money on JOY, cant remember but this was real good too today, bye

[06:11 am] mikewd2 -: good morning traders
[06:12 am] scalpman  : gm
[06:12 am] jolliffboy  : Good morning from the home of the RNC, Tampa
[06:12 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Ed, everyone
[06:13 am] shark  : hi joey, everyone
[06:13 am] joeytsa  : pending home sales @ pdt, crude inv 7:30pdt,beige book  11pdt
[06:13 am] mikewd2 -: joey, you in the premarket review with ken
[06:13 am] joeytsa  : i will be
[06:13 am] mikewd2 -: ok, he is on
[06:13 am] scalpman  : hi ed
[06:13 am] shark  : TFM up 5% on earnings
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : gap up: JOSB,TFM
[06:14 am] doji  : Good morning fellas
[06:14 am] skydiver  : gm all
[06:14 am] shark  : hey doji
[06:14 am] doji  : What review Mike?
[06:14 am] shark  : sky
[06:14 am] doji  : Hi Shark
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : gap down:HNZ,ARQL,JOY,DY
[06:14 am] khall  : gm
[06:15 am] mikewd2 -: MCP getting some movement again today
[06:15 am] skydiver  : hey shark
[06:15 am] doji  : Mike waht review?
[06:16 am] doji  : is it with Ken Calhoun?
[06:16 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[06:16 am] shark  : All AAPL options (weeklys) were down in value, since stock flat, sellers making $$
[06:16 am] doji  : IS it paid or free?
[06:16 am] mikewd2 -: free - pre market review
[06:16 am] mikewd2 -: lets talk on FB, later
[06:16 am] doji  : hahah that's ok, perfect Mike
[06:21 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:21 am] shark  : WLP - up 5%, CEO leaving
[06:23 am] joeytsa  : hi Mitch
[06:23 am] shark  : gm Mitch
[06:23 am] gregs  : gm mitch
[06:23 am] shark  : take my computer w/me, Mitch
[06:24 am] murano  : Leaving on vacation Friday morning
[06:24 am] skydiver  : yes - I take my three laptops with me as well on vacations
[06:24 am] scalpman  : Not til I make more money!!!!
[06:25 am] victor51  : gm all
[06:25 am] shark  : TNGO up 4.67%, off yesterday moves
[06:28 am] lisas  : gm Mitch, Ed
[06:31 am] shark  : monitoring TFM
[06:32 am] mikewd2 -: YOKU L from premarket
[06:33 am] mikewd2 -: WLT
[06:33 am] shark  : AAPL testing R1 res
[06:34 am] mikewd2 -: watching NUS for break above 42
[06:35 am] mikewd2 -: HAIN selling off a bit
[06:35 am] joeytsa  : WFM moving up
[06:35 am] joeytsa  : YELP moving also
[06:36 am] shark  : AAPL looks like wants higher
[06:36 am] shark  : watching YELP closer for top
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : tighten TFM if short
[06:37 am] shark  : out all TFM s
[06:39 am] joeytsa  : tighten HNZ if long
[06:39 am] mikewd2 -: MAKO might be good long swing stock
[06:40 am] joeytsa  : esp if it can clear the 100ma
[06:40 am] mikewd2 -: nice bounce in CJES this morning
[06:40 am] joeytsa  : i mean the 50
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: looking to go long on a pull back
[06:42 am] joeytsa  : gotta love being done in less than 10 minutes :)
[06:42 am] shark  : :)
[06:42 am] mikewd2 -: would like to see LXK give up 21
[06:43 am] mikewd2 -: come to papa LXK
[06:44 am] doji  : aggg stopped in MCP...
[06:44 am] mikewd2 -: TSO
[06:45 am] mikewd2 -: LXK broke 21, look out below
[06:45 am] shark  : AAPL broke thru R1
[06:45 am] shark  : could run a bit
[06:47 am] joeytsa  : BIDU needs to bust thru that 117.80-118 area, res so far
[06:47 am] doji  : APPL reversing
[06:48 am] mikewd2 -: WFT - outch
[06:48 am] shark  : watching AAPL at vwap
[06:48 am] shark  : TFM retest lod
[06:48 am] shark  : missed YELP top
[06:49 am] doji  : TFM
[06:50 am] mikewd2 -: out MAKO long
[06:51 am] doji  : Watching FSLR
[06:52 am] mikewd2 -: covered LXK short, +0.70
[06:52 am] mikewd2 -: at support pivot on LXK
[06:53 am] mikewd2 -: will reenter if it gives it up
[06:53 am] mikewd2 -: WFT L 12.25 - day trade
[06:54 am] joeytsa  : watching VRTX
[06:54 am] doji  : Oil stocks weak today Mike
[06:54 am] mikewd2 -: except for CJES for some reason
[06:54 am] mikewd2 -: low vol stock though
[06:54 am] doji  : You must be buying CJES Mike
[06:55 am] mikewd2 -: CLF
[06:56 am] shark  : AAPL broke vwap
[06:56 am] mikewd2 -: CLF gave up previous low
[06:56 am] mikewd2 -: sorry 36.06
[06:58 am] shark  : TFM lod
[06:58 am] shark  : HNZ poss finding bottom
[06:59 am] joeytsa  : pending homes sale report is pending :)
[06:59 am] mikewd2 -: out TZA 16.34 to 16.51 1%
[07:00 am] shark  : s AAPL weekly 665 put 1.15
[07:00 am] doji  : Thanks for sharing Shark
[07:00 am] shark  : not too sure about it, yet
[07:01 am] shark  : KORS, watching
[07:01 am] doji  : MCP
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: you still in short doji?
[07:01 am] joeytsa  : trail BIDU if short
[07:02 am] shark  : GOOG, PCLN, same 1min chart pattern
[07:02 am] doji  : Nope Mike
[07:02 am] doji  : got stopped first time and stay aside
[07:03 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, saw that bounce
[07:03 am] doji  : still carrying a loss that I am trying to reverse
[07:03 am] joeytsa  : you must have had a really tight stop
[07:04 am] mikewd2 -: watching CLF for long entry if it holds that 36.06 from 7/27
[07:04 am] shark  : thx, mike
[07:05 am] doji  : Watching MCP
[07:05 am] shark  : amazing, Mitch
[07:05 am] mikewd2 -: dang, knew MAKO was a good one, took quick to pull profit
[07:05 am] shark  : ouch, mike
[07:06 am] doji  : FB
[07:07 am] shark  : JOSB, watching at lod area, see if can break thru on vol
[07:09 am] mikewd2 -: doji, you taking any SLB long?
[07:09 am] shark  : BPT nice vol thru 50min ma
[07:11 am] shark  : nice bounce off YELP low, maybe another short opporutnity
[07:12 am] mikewd2 -: MAKO still looking good
[07:13 am] mikewd2 -: i would think MCP will provide some good trades today - both ways
[07:14 am] shark  : SPY pop
[07:15 am] shark  : helping some stocks
[07:16 am] mikewd2 -: watching to reenter TZA
[07:16 am] mikewd2 -: was there news on MAKO?
[07:17 am] shark  : earnings, mike
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: thanks shark, figured
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: looking to take a stab at CLF pretty soon
[07:18 am] mikewd2 -: will put stop just below 36.06, probably 35.96
[07:18 am] shark  : MAKO Surgical (MAKO 12.18) target lowered to $13 from $15 at Mizuho
[07:18 am] shark  : despite on target earnings
[07:19 am] shark  : could bode well for more downside here, mike
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: long CLF 36.09
[07:20 am] shark  : yeah, BPT was nice, Mitch
[07:21 am] victor51  : Mitch Thanks. BPT was a great trade
[07:23 am] khall  : I think they are helpful Mitch
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : i like your comments, gives us a look at how you are seeing things
[07:24 am] gregs  : ditto, it helps to internalize the thinking to evaluate whether a trade is a good setup
[07:24 am] gregs  : doesn't matter if you're exactly right
[07:25 am] joeytsa  : doesnt matter if you are wrong or right
[07:26 am] mikewd2 -: LXK still dropping
[07:26 am] mikewd2 -: but have no position on LXK
[07:28 am] victor51  : Mike, I hope storm in your area  damaged  anything big
[07:29 am] mikewd2 -: the storm is in louisanna, i'm in texas and its hot and dry here
[07:29 am] shark  : ugh
[07:29 am] lisas  : Mitch, your comments are helpful, keep it up
[07:30 am] mikewd2 -: increase in crude supply
[07:30 am] mikewd2 -: 3.8M bbls up
[07:30 am] shark  : AAPL ready to break down some more
[07:31 am] murano  : YELP
[07:31 am] victor51  : Mitch, your comments are quite helpful
[07:31 am] gregs  : darn missed bounce in AAPL
[07:32 am] doji  : what bounce Gregs?
[07:33 am] skydiver  : Enjoy your comments Mitch.  :)
[07:34 am] mikewd2 -: WFT
[07:35 am] joeytsa  : crude futures really didnt bounce much on report
[07:35 am] chinhngo  : esv=56.09 buy at bottom ?
[07:36 am] victor51  : Mike, I thought you were in in Mississipi. OK
[07:36 am] shark  : watching YELP
[07:37 am] mikewd2 -: nope
[07:37 am] mikewd2 -: "the" college station texas
[07:37 am] mikewd2 -: CLF getting interesting
[07:38 am] shark  : maybe some shorts getting out of YELP
[07:38 am] gregs  : doji, was thinking 675.80 area is resist and saw price bounce against that... but now its just consolidating
[07:38 am] mikewd2 -: that's what CNBC said shark on YELP
[07:39 am] shark  : thx, mike. my TV is off :)
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: i was supprised the move up with all the shares coming available to sell
[07:39 am] shark  : yeah, totally
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: CLF not looking good
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: below 7/27 price
[07:41 am] shark  : agreed, mike
[07:41 am] shark  : AAPL at b/e
[07:41 am] shark  : SPY at b/e
[07:44 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on CLF
[07:44 am] mikewd2 -: should move up now - haha
[07:48 am] joeytsa  : alright, i hope you all have a great day...maybe see you last hour, if not, see you all tomorrow :)
[07:48 am] rusty  : gm
[07:48 am] rusty  : NTE come to papa
[07:48 am] Ed : c ya joey
[07:48 am] rusty  : covered 1/2 NTE
[07:49 am] shark  : bye joey, gm rusty
[07:49 am] rusty  : + 1/2
[07:51 am] mikewd2 -: nice drop in the markets
[07:51 am] rusty  : wtf
[07:51 am] mikewd2 -: missed my TZA entry
[07:51 am] shark  : APPL too, lod
[07:51 am] rusty  : I thought only up was nice
[07:52 am] shark  : :)
[07:53 am] rusty  : APKT radar
[07:58 am] mikewd2 -: oils are weak today
[07:58 am] doji  : Yeap, from the open
[07:58 am] Ed : lower lows in CL also
[08:03 am] rusty  : NTE bounce
[08:03 am] rusty  : added to s
[08:09 am] rusty  : TAMPA (The Borowitz Report)—On the opening night of the 2012 Republican National Convention, the Presidential nominee Mitt Romney received fulsome praise for being a "regular, down-to-earth guy" from his wife, Ann, whose dressage horse, Rafalca, competed in the London Olympics.
[08:10 am] gregs  : lol
[08:11 am] rusty  : "Mitt has never let his success go to his head," Mrs. Romney said. "Take away the seven-thousand-square-foot house in La Jolla and the bank account in the Caymans, he's still the same fun-loving boy who pinned a gay kid to the ground and cut off his hair.
[08:11 am] gregs  : rofl
[08:12 am] mikewd2 -: watching LXK
[08:18 am] gum  : rusty, i'm suprised at you being in the market, attempting to make big money and making remarks against someone who has been sucessful
[08:18 am] rusty  : NTE re coming to papa
[08:19 am] khall  : that's rusty, always full of surprises
[08:19 am] khall  : ;-)
[08:19 am] rusty  : i am nonpartisan
[08:19 am] rusty  : i make fun of everyone
[08:19 am] rusty  : including myself
[08:20 am] rusty  : now stfu and give us a trade
[08:20 am] doji  : Come on guys, these are only jokes... don't take it seriously
[08:20 am] gum  : you could have fooled me !!
[08:21 am] mikewd2 -: I'm a Romney voter and i thought it was funny -
[08:23 am] mikewd2 -: oils bouncing a bit
[08:24 am] rusty  : Q: What does Barack Obama call illegal aliens?
[08:26 am] rusty  : A: Undocumented democrats
[08:27 am] rusty  : Alternate Answer:  "My fellow Americans"
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: seems like it would be better if it was undocumented replublican
[08:27 am] Ed : with stroke of a pen they can become documented
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: nice bounce in CKES
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: CJES
[08:28 am] mikewd2 -: YOKU finally moving up
[08:30 am] rusty  : INTC radar
[08:31 am] rusty  : based on daily chart
[08:35 am] murano  : JOY
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: back in TZA long
[08:50 am] shark  : AAPL back to vwap -res
[08:57 am] rusty  : YELP radar
[09:00 am] doji  : aggg missed MCP rebound
[09:01 am] doji  : still carrying my dumb loss today
[09:16 am] qwert  : Hi everybody no internet this am just got going hows everybody?
[09:16 am] rusty  : TheStreetSweeper covered 43,171 shares of TNGO on Aug. 28 at an average price of $17.26 a share. As a result, TheStreetSweeper has a total of 80,602 shares of TNGO sold short at the present time.
[09:21 am] rusty  : Darvas Box Fans...
[09:21 am] rusty  : http://seekingalpha.com/article/835731-a-look -at-s-p-500-valuation-and-darvas-box-theory?s ource=email_rt_article_title&ifp=1
[09:32 am] qwert  : Ed have you taken profit on tfm long yet
[09:36 am] Ed : welcome to the room qwert
[09:37 am] qwert  : thx ed liking the tfm
[09:47 am] mikewd2 -: MCP moving again
[09:49 am] qwert  : monitoring see
[09:52 am] mikewd2 -: LVS
[10:00 am] mikewd2 -: MCP
[10:00 am] mikewd2 -: getting some upgrades
[10:01 am] mikewd2 -: ie pump and dump -- probabably haha
[10:02 am] Ed : now u tell us mike
[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: reducing some MCP swing, 11.70
[10:04 am] qwert  : wow bpt has a huge spread
[10:10 am] mikewd2 -: figured CLF would move on up after getting stopped
[10:27 am] rusty  : NTE bounce
[10:37 am] shark  : nice vol spikes too, EQIX
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: TFM lod
[10:39 am] rusty  : SPY lowest volume pace of year
[10:39 am] mikewd2 -: that's why i think any bump in market today will be short lived
[10:40 am] rusty  : NYSE volume 185M shares - 29% below its three-month average; advancers lead decliners by 1.5:1
[10:43 am] rusty  : LNKD radar
[10:43 am] rusty  : based on daily chart
[10:44 am] rusty  : OPK radar
[10:44 am] rusty  : be careful this one is manipulated and maybe overvalued
[10:45 am] mikewd2 -: MCP hod
[10:46 am] mikewd2 -: out half LVS long 42.54
[10:46 am] mikewd2 -: +0.41
[10:46 am] mikewd2 -: trailing stop 0.10
[10:58 am] victor51  : Ed you mean 8/27 thru today for Amzn cup?
[11:00 am] Ed : yes on 15min
[11:03 am] victor51  : Thanks. So cup handle is bullish? I never traded on cup handle. Ed, please help me understand
[11:05 am] Ed : i dont like to think in terms of bullish/bearish. But yes its called bullish pattern
[11:07 am] Ed : here are some suggested readings to help u understand them victor any book by Gil Morales,
[11:07 am] Ed : also  monster stocks by William O Neil
[11:09 am] Ed : Im not putting you off Victor, but it takes some studying and reading to be able to understand premise behind the setup and what to look for, and how they can be failure prone etc
[11:11 am] Ed : So its not like ur normal, when price is x, buy here if that makes sense
[11:12 am] mikewd2 -: HAIN lod
[11:13 am] victor51  : Ed, Great. I know I need to find time to read couple of books.
[11:14 am] Ed : learinng never ends no matter what level ur trading
[11:16 am] victor51  : Ed, i really like your simple approaches you have taught us so far..
[11:16 am] Ed : u know my middle name is simpleton
[11:17 am] Ed : just kidding, thanks for kind words
[11:18 am] rusty  : victor = kiss a$$ :-)
[11:19 am] qwert  : hahaha
[11:19 am] rusty  : victor: stfu rusty
[11:20 am] Ed : lol
[11:23 am] mikewd2 -: MCP over 12
[11:25 am] rusty  : going to sell 1/2 of MCP swing by eod
[11:25 am] rusty  : no one wanted it at 10
[11:25 am] rusty  : CNBC said it was going lower too
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: i've reduced alot today rusty
[11:28 am] victor51  : Thanks Ed for EQIX S. Nice $1.40 all out
[11:30 am] Ed : nice trading victor
[11:30 am] rusty  : NTE moving again
[11:38 am] rusty  : BPT lod
[11:40 am] rusty  : Fifty-three percent (53%) of Likely U.S. Voters think, that the president is most likely to be the winner in November
[11:42 am] qwert  : im long at 79.50
[11:43 am] qwert  : thx
[11:44 am] qwert  : w/stop under 79
[11:45 am] qwert  : moved stop to .24
[11:47 am] qwert  : thats why i bumped stop and then got out with only .08 loss
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : JOY rebounded nicely, hitting $55 res right now
[12:01 pm] victor51  : \
[12:02 pm] qwert  : Mitch where did lightning generat buy signal for BPT
[12:03 pm] mikewd2 -: out some more MCP 12.40
[12:04 pm] qwert  : nice mike
[12:04 pm] joeytsa  : good one mike
[12:06 pm] lisas  : a portion
[12:06 pm] qwert  : just 1/4 left mitch
[12:06 pm] qwert  : thx
[12:07 pm] qwert  : 77.51
[12:07 pm] lisas  : 78.16
[12:08 pm] mikewd2 -: large spreads on that guy
[12:08 pm] gregs  : qwert nice entry
[12:08 pm] gregs  : you too lisas :)
[12:10 pm] gregs  : anything fun happening in EUR/USD or crude, gold etc?
[12:10 pm] gregs  : ES volume horrible
[12:11 pm] rusty  : lowest of year
[12:13 pm] mikewd2 -: CLF still slowly going up
[12:13 pm] shark  : good points, Mitch
[12:14 pm] qwert  : lis are you still long BPT
[12:14 pm] qwert  : lis=lisa
[12:14 pm] lisas  : Qwert, yes
[12:14 pm] qwert  : nice
[12:14 pm] lisas  : how about you?
[12:14 pm] qwert  : no
[12:15 pm] rusty  : TSO bounce
[12:15 pm] lisas  : stop moved up, may get hit, pretty wild price action
[12:15 pm] qwert  : watching for short now again
[12:17 pm] lisas  : stopped
[12:18 pm] qwert  : nice trade lisa
[12:19 pm] Ed : nice lisa
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : way to go lisa :)
[12:19 pm] lisas  : Thanks
[12:20 pm] qwert  : lets see how it acts at 80
[12:20 pm] rusty  : NTE re-come to papa
[12:20 pm] shark  : haha
[12:22 pm] Mitch K: rusty, somehow that just doesnt sound right
[12:22 pm] rusty  : to prudes of course
[12:23 pm] rusty  : pls go back to your own box....we got standards to maintain down here
[12:25 pm] mikewd2 -: no VHC to short at TS
[12:28 pm] mikewd2 -: looks like it wants to bounce off 50ma
[12:28 pm] mikewd2 -: nope
[12:29 pm] gregs  : FDO making strong move into 64ish region
[12:32 pm] rusty  : LGF radar
[12:33 pm] joeytsa  : nice one greg
[12:35 pm] jsn13  : ed, may i know what time and what price was ur short entry on VHC?
[12:35 pm] victor51  : Nice Lisa, Great exit. It was a wild ride
[12:36 pm] lisas  : too wild, switched to sim to short it, crazy wide spread
[12:37 pm] Ed : it gave nice short trigger after 3:24est
[12:39 pm] jsn13  : ok cool that was the entry that i thought of....thanks....so the 3.26pm bar did not make it look strong and motivate u to cover at BE?
[12:40 pm] Ed : nice call on FDO
[12:40 pm] gregs  : hope you got it
[12:41 pm] Ed : did not trigger for me, but I was salivating
[12:42 pm] gregs  : me too haha
[12:42 pm] Ed : the best calls are the ones u miss
[12:43 pm] gregs  : so true
[12:43 pm] rusty  : always
[12:43 pm] rusty  : and the worst calls are often the ones you take part in
[12:43 pm] rusty  : murphy's trading law
[12:45 pm] Ed : good point rusty
[12:45 pm] Ed : anyone still in PUDA trade
[12:46 pm] gregs  : how much do yall pay attention to open interest or put/call ratios, or other option metrics i don't know abt
[12:46 pm] gregs  : for assessing overall trading potential
[12:46 pm] shark  : i do, gregs
[12:47 pm] shark  : a lot of stocks like to PING on expiry day where vol is heaviest
[12:47 pm] gregs  : ah shark right, just started paying attn
[12:48 pm] gregs  : have any favorite scans?
[12:49 pm] mikewd2 -: VIX back to almost 17
[12:50 pm] shark  : i work off my favorite stocks, then find trades
[12:50 pm] mikewd2 -: WFT vol pop
[12:50 pm] shark  : or stocks on the move
[12:53 pm] joeytsa  : mike, WFT interesting vol spike
[12:53 pm] mikewd2 -: yep
[12:53 pm] joeytsa  : only moved 8cents though
[12:54 pm] mikewd2 -: lots of the oils got vol spike then
[12:56 pm] rusty  : good night to all the bad traders....they deserve it
[12:56 pm] gregs  : go back to your mud huts bad traders
[12:56 pm] joeytsa  : Have a great day everyone
[12:57 pm] gregs  : bye everyone :)
[12:57 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch, Ed,everyone
[12:57 pm] victor51  : Mitch, My best day trade was JOY with +4.0 but  it was in Sim. Nice learning Thanks.
[12:57 pm] mikewd2 -: nice job victor
[12:58 pm] shark  : LNKD -pocket pivot vol today
[12:58 pm] mikewd2 -: BPT lod
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: nice victor
[01:01 pm] lisas  : bye all, have a great nite
[01:02 pm] qwert  : yes
[01:03 pm] qwert  : im still here mitch
[01:03 pm] victor51  : Have a nice evening all
[01:03 pm] gregs  : ooo
[01:03 pm] qwert  : wow awesome
[01:04 pm] rusty  : P earnings out
[01:04 pm] rusty  : running up
[01:04 pm] chinhngo  : how about  apkt please?
[01:05 pm] victor51  : Mitch, I wished i had Lightening for BPT. Impressive signals
[01:05 pm] qwert  : very nice
[01:07 pm] qwert  : is that 1 candle earlier on 1 or 2 min chart mitch
[01:07 pm] jsn13  : Mitch, so do u still need alot more time? so definitely wont be ready on Labour day?
[01:08 pm] rusty  : why cant we just trade one minute before the signal?
[01:08 pm] qwert  : hahaha
[01:09 pm] qwert  : i think shes gone
[01:09 pm] qwert  : hey jsn i put up a pic of my setup on fb
[01:11 pm] chinhngo  : do not ask for perfect we need this  chart now and slwly modify i would like too subcribe now
[01:11 pm] jsn13  : thanks qwert.....
[01:12 pm] jsn13  : ok no problem mitch....u still have alot of testing to do?
[01:12 pm] qwert  : sure thing
[01:12 pm] qwert  : that will be huge mitch
[01:13 pm] rusty  : Mitch, maybe you could wakeup one minute earlier?
[01:13 pm] jsn13  : but the trade off is that u might get more false signals right mitch?
[01:13 pm] victor51  : IMitch, I entered at 11:42 Long and went thru agony but closed at 12:20
[01:16 pm] victor51  : Mitch, you are using 2 min. candle. Is it better than one for Lightening
[01:16 pm] qwert  : victor you sat through that 2.50 drop
[01:17 pm] jsn13  : Mitch the price that is shown on the charts (the diamonds) are based on current price or ask price for longs? the spread is wide....
[01:18 pm] victor51  : I agree. I have to remember that hot stocks like BPT need special watch.
[01:18 pm] victor51  : and stop limit is not the answer.
[01:19 pm] qwert  : bye mitch
[01:19 pm] rusty  : gn Mitch, thx
[01:19 pm] qwert  : cya everybody
[01:19 pm] victor51  : Thanks Mitch
[01:21 pm] victor51  : Mitch ,That was me for Joy
[01:22 pm] jsn13  : bye guys....have a great night....
[01:23 pm] victor51  : Bye jason

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