Chat Highlights From 08/24/2011

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[06:20 am] Kris : Good Morning Traders
[06:20 am] Kris : How's everyone doing this morning?
[06:20 am] Kris : This morning I'm watching CHD, HSY, PRGO, WEC, DY, ELN, UTHR and SIGA as possible longs.
[06:21 am] Kris : AXS, LLL, UTIW, WCRX, RENN, AVGO, LZB and ISIL as possible shorts.
[06:21 am] Kris : excellent! Let's have a great day today.
[06:25 am] Brent : good morning
[06:28 am] Kris : 2 minutes. Time to Rock!
[06:30 am] Kris : UTHR long half
[06:31 am] Kris : AMZN long half
[06:31 am] Kris : out half UTHR long
[06:32 am] Kris : AEO short half
[06:33 am] Kris : LVS long half
[06:33 am] Kris : TCK long half
[06:34 am] Kris : SPY over resistance
[06:35 am] Kris : AMTD long half
[06:35 am] Kris : BUD long half
[06:38 am] Kris : CERN long half
[06:40 am] Kris : yes scalpman[06:41 am] Brent : watching PANL for a bounce
[06:41 am] Kris : I stopped second half UTHR long BE
[06:43 am] Brent : consider reducing PANL
[06:43 am] Kris : CERN making new highs
[06:43 am] Kris : DANG long half
[06:43 am] Kris : long second half TCK
[06:43 am] Kris : see if the SPY can move over hod resistance
[06:43 am] Kris : starting to see some buyers now
[06:44 am] Kris : out half CERN long
[06:45 am] Kris : looking new hod in LVS and BUD
[06:45 am] Kris : will watch SODA for a pullback to take long.
[06:46 am] Kris : KSS long half
[06:47 am] Kris : green green green[06:48 am] Kris : out half LVS long
[06:49 am] Brent : yes derns, reducing more here 39.90 area
[06:50 am] Kris : AZPN ALERT
[06:50 am] Kris : SNDK long half
[06:51 am] Kris : AZPN ALERT
[06:51 am] Kris : LULU long half
[06:52 am] Kris : MOBI long small position
[06:53 am] Mitch K: short idea AZPN
[06:54 am] Kris : out half KSS long
[06:54 am] Kris : SPY still running
[06:54 am] Mitch K: forgot who asked about BAC late yesterday. Was a really positive article to buy BAC by DIck Bove, a bank bear analyst
[06:56 am] Kris : CERN consolidating, looking for another move above hod.
[06:56 am] Kris : out another 1/4 KSS long
[06:57 am] Kris : out half BUD long, moving up stop
[06:57 am] Kris : out half MOBI long
[06:58 am] Kris : AMZN trying for hod[06:59 am] Kris : I hope not
[07:00 am] Kris : careful with your longs now, SPY could start to top here soon.
[07:00 am] Kris : out half AMTD long
[07:00 am] Kris : out half LULU long
[07:04 am] Kris : analyst looks like analcyst. anyone ever notice that?
[07:04 am] Mitch K: AZPN holding up fairly strong here ltacher, id pass
[07:05 am] Kris : start looking for some short setups soon
[07:07 am] Kris : SINA short half
[07:08 am] Kris : I still have a 1/4 of SNDK, gonna see if it can hold up against a pullback in the markets.
[07:12 am] Kris : miners and gold stocks moving down
[07:12 am] Kris : SPY holding up so far, looking beefy
[07:12 am] Kris : yes I'm still short AEO
[07:13 am] Kris : out half SINA short
[07:14 am] Kris : no, just traded the half cause I wanted to see if the market is still on steroids today scalpman.
[07:16 am] Kris : getting more green coming across the board, watch that trendline resistance.
[07:16 am] Kris : out another 1/4 SINA short
[07:16 am] Kris : SNDK holding up well
[07:17 am] Kris : you mean markets are not logical joey?
[07:18 am] Kris : out all SINA short
[07:19 am] Kris : out half AEO short
[07:20 am] Kris : QCOR long half
[07:22 am] Kris : watching SPRD for a long
[07:22 am] Mitch K: should get a small bounce soon
[07:23 am] Kris : RENN another leg down
[07:23 am] Kris : was anyone able to get that this morning on the short side from the open?
[07:23 am] Kris : watching MCP for a long
[07:24 am] Kris : OC long half position
[07:25 am] Kris : out half QCOR long
[07:26 am] Kris : MHP long half
[07:26 am] Kris : SPY trying to find support here, need to break trendline resistance for the longs. mind your shorts.
[07:29 am] Kris : AU short half
[07:39 am] Kris : RIMM long half
[07:40 am] Kris : out half RIMM long
[07:40 am] Kris : SPY still having trouble with the trendline.
[07:45 am] Kris : UTHR still moving up
[07:51 am] Kris : RENN trying for a new lod[07:58 am] Kris : SINA breaking down again
[08:05 am] Kris : yes, I'm still in AU
[08:31 am] Kris : what are you talking about scalpman?
[08:33 am] Kris : I started small and had a wide stop, I nearly stopped out. my stop was at 10.88. added at 10.76
[08:34 am] Kris : that's fine mike. let me check my orders.
[08:35 am] Kris : previous 52 week low was 10.85
[08:35 am] Kris : wanted to be over that
[08:36 am] Kris : 10.58 and 10.76
[08:36 am] Kris : I can see it on my daily qwert[08:44 am] Kris : I complain to bert all the time
[08:44 am] Kris : I know candelas
[08:44 am] Kris : I stopped out on AU on that move up over 43.17 at 11:13am
[08:44 am] Kris : if you're still short AU you can have a stop over 43.35
[08:44 am] Kris : lol[08:45 am] Kris : "Did you see XYZ bert? I posted to watch this for a short and I forgot to even trade it!"
[08:45 am] Kris : you take a daily chart
[08:46 am] Kris : and it will give you the exact value.
[08:46 am] Kris : look for the lowest candle
[08:46 am] Kris : or you can draw a horizontal line
[08:46 am] Kris : put your crosshair on that candle and see what the low was
[08:46 am] Kris : run it back 365 days
[08:46 am] Kris : yes
[08:46 am] Kris : you can most times add that to a watchlist or position window
[08:47 am] Kris : SPY trading in a 50 tick channel the last hour
[09:04 am] Kris : mitch will have to answer that one jsn13, I'm not swinging TNA
[09:10 am] Kris : SPY coming into support here. watch for a bounce soon
[09:35 am] Brent : SPY testing trendline resistance
[10:13 am] Brent : good eye on AGQ joeytsa[11:00 am] Kris : SPY pushing to test that last high, it breaks this and could test hod around 118.
[11:33 am] Brent : nice bounce on HRBN lightning, I passed too
[11:34 am] Brent : yeah those are tough
[11:46 am] Brent : watching WSM resistance around 31.35
[12:00 pm] Brent : WSM hitting support here if still short
[12:25 pm] Mitch K: sounds like a bullshort in correction mode
[12:25 pm] Mitch K: you guys see gold down over $100 or 5.3%?
[12:34 pm] Brent : SPY new hod[12:41 pm] Mitch K: the chart on the left is a daily chart, looks like a bullshort[12:42 pm] Mitch K: thanks for the heads-up Rusty, now give us about 5 of those a day
[12:43 pm] Mitch K: LPHI nice end of day trade
[12:57 pm] Kris : Have a good one Matt
[12:57 pm] Mitch K: later guys
[01:00 pm] Kris : good night everyone. see you tomorrow.
[01:02 pm] Brent : have a great night, see you all tomorrow
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: later guys, you are all funny people but we still love you

[06:10 am] ltacher : I did litle home work .. last night here it is ...http://lh5.ggpht.com/-WF6GyLABxgw/TlRBYLt4 tZI/AAAAAAAALfs/kT5DqgxImPA/s1600-h/SPY60min% 25255B2%25255D.png
[06:12 am] joeytsa : UTHR seems to be the mover of the morning..gapping up 10 points
[06:12 am] joeytsa : am reports : durable goods came in good, 4.0 when 2.1 was expected....crude oil inventories at 7:30pst
[06:14 am] joeytsa : for technicians...crude in a rising wedge, SPY in a bear penance on both the 30 minute and daily charts
[06:17 am] joeytsa : moody's cut japans rating
[06:20 am] candelas : so UTHR downgraded
[06:25 am] joeytsa : UTHR trying to come off its lows
[06:25 am] doji : AKS upgraded by JPM
[06:35 am] mikewd2 -: Heineken warns of lower second half, people drinking less beer
[06:35 am] joeytsa : BUD moving on Heineken lowered forecasts?
[06:38 am] scalpman : Stopped out on TCK
[06:39 am] scalpman : Kris 2nd half AEO?
[06:39 am] mando : Remember that Housing #'s come out in about 20 minutes. Watch your stops!!
[06:39 am] joeytsa : CRM dropping
[06:40 am] ltacher : Kris are you out on TCK
[06:40 am] anthonyb : short uthr 39.14
[06:41 am] leo : UTHR should out?
[06:41 am] anthonyb : also short rimm[06:44 am] joeytsa : great call on CERN !!!!
[06:45 am] doji : DANG no moving
[06:48 am] derns : Brent..are you still in some in PANL?
[06:50 am] gecko : panl at double resist on light chart 1m
[06:50 am] candelas : AZPN
[06:50 am] candelas : alert AZPN
[06:53 am] mhaus : CPK
[06:54 am] gecko : dji broke 11200
[06:54 am] derns : Mitch..that was me...
[06:55 am] ronfrac : Thanks guys. have to go get my boat ready for Irene and it's Boat)60 miles away
[06:55 am] mikewd2 -: really wish it was coming towards texas[06:55 am] joeytsa : good luck ron...hope all stays well
[06:55 am] gecko : wow good luck hurry
[06:55 am] doji : Mitch, any value in BAC?
[06:56 am] doji : BAC flying
[06:58 am] eyes-inthenow : I sold all my BAC after yesterdays info
[06:59 am] scalpman : Stopped on DANG
[06:59 am] neuronx : still in LULU Kris>?
[06:59 am] doji : Bad move Eyes
[07:00 am] doji : Any news on housing?
[07:02 am] shark : BAC moving - Raymonda James analyst trashing all the negative talk. 400B in reserves
[07:02 am] ltacher : mitch is AZPN is a short potential
[07:02 am] joeytsa : doji..which housing #'s? is it the OFHEO HPI m/m?
[07:02 am] joeytsa : crude oil inventories at the bottom of the hour
[07:03 am] mikewd2 -: analyst stating that BAC could more than triple
[07:03 am] joeytsa : that came in at .9% when .2% was forecast
[07:04 am] mikewd2 -: thanks for LULU Kris
[07:04 am] mikewd2 -: sounds like a pump and dump
[07:04 am] ltacher : kris are you still in AMZN and AEO
[07:05 am] ltacher : thank you mitch ..
[07:05 am] joeytsa : PRGO looking strong today
[07:05 am] joeytsa : do you mean confused, Kris??
[07:05 am] garyb : Hi all....question....I'm in TNA, and up like crazy...wondering if I should take profits here or wait it out. Any opinions?
[07:05 am] candelas : qwert u get azpn[07:06 am] qwert : nope just missed it azpn[07:06 am] neuronx : SNDK still in?
[07:06 am] ltacher : MY AA is doing very well
[07:06 am] candelas : ur fave pattern
[07:07 am] doji : Garyb, I am holding my TNA, it's a swing trade
[07:08 am] ltacher : Out on My A
[07:09 am] garyb : Thank doji.....I know, when you look at TNA and the profits it's tempting to sell it...but it may hit $48 tomorrow...Thanks doji!
[07:09 am] doji : In fact, I'll add to TNA in a pullback
[07:10 am] mikewd2 -: AGQ down 15, very nice
[07:10 am] garyb : doji, what is your average on TNA? Mine is $38.81...I have been averaging up..started at $36
[07:11 am] ltacher : kris i took a short AEO are you still in
[07:12 am] gecko : doji: u need a strategy
[07:13 am] scalpman : Kris, did you add to SINA?
[07:13 am] doji : This time I'll hold it with my stop at 40
[07:13 am] doji : Mine is 40.5 Garyb, I sold yesterday and re-entree again before the close yesterday
[07:14 am] gecko : doji set a target also
[07:14 am] garyb : Nice doji...well today and tomorrow look positive. We shall see what Friday holds with Bernanke. I will move my stops up on Friday
[07:14 am] doji : 48 Gecko
[07:15 am] joeytsa : NEM just tumbling
[07:15 am] doji : Thanks Gecko for the remainder
[07:16 am] joeytsa : we know the markets are logical, but logically thinking, whether they announce qe3 or not you would think gold would have a pop
[07:16 am] gecko : tna/tza ema 5/15 flip
[07:17 am] joeytsa : no..only trading it..not holding anything at the moment
[07:17 am] garyb : Thanks joey..are you in TNA as well?
[07:17 am] eyes-inthenow : ovti ALErt[07:18 am] mbear : Great call SINA Kris
[07:18 am] ltacher : Nice trade Kris on Sina I was just watching it
[07:18 am] joeytsa : if qe3 is announced..gold might pop due to the $ being devalued...qe3 declined then stocks would probably get hit and gold go up..but who really knows
[07:19 am] scalpman : All out CERN
[07:19 am] ltacher : AEO Dropping
[07:20 am] scalpman : Holding 1/4 SNDK L
[07:21 am] derns : AZPN finally made a drop.
[07:24 am] mhaus : AU
[07:24 am] doji : Very small
[07:24 am] doji : Adding TNA
[07:31 am] neuronx : Mitch are you short on AZPN>?
[07:33 am] scalpman : Stopped AU S
[07:33 am] lightning : watching APKT for a long opportunity
[07:34 am] ltacher : stop in MHP
[07:34 am] joeytsa : crude inventories came in at -2.2M when .7M was forecast
[07:37 am] scalpman : Kris, I was stopped on AEO...what was your Stop?
[07:37 am] mbear : fslr[07:37 am] garyb : tna, trendline support
[07:41 am] ltacher : wow was moving too fast
[07:41 am] doji : Out RIMM in a blink?
[07:45 am] mbear : out FSLR long plus .70
[07:48 am] qwert : nice mbear[07:54 am] qwert : kris are still short AU
[07:54 am] mbear : thanks qwert[07:55 am] ltacher : just watching from a distance AMZN is dropping hard
[07:57 am] ltacher : Nice drop in AEO
[07:58 am] doji : SPY looking for support, same as TNA
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: Kris, you looking for bottom in SINA soon?
[08:03 am] qwert : wow should have stayed on sina for 2nd helping
[08:03 am] neuronx : Kris you still in AU >?
[08:04 am] garyb : TNA may bounce off of the 50 SMA
[08:05 am] gecko : sma 200
[08:07 am] mikewd2 -: SINA l 89.58
[08:08 am] scalpman : in at 89.45
[08:08 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 SINA L
[08:09 am] scalpman : SINA next Target 91.25
[08:12 am] leo : AU strong
[08:13 am] mikewd2 -: out SINA 91
[08:13 am] ltacher : AEO covering half ..
[08:13 am] scalpman : Out another 1/4 SINA L @ .97
[08:14 am] scalpman : trailing up stop on SINA L
[08:14 am] ltacher : nice scalpman[08:14 am] scalpman : Must Break 91.08
[08:15 am] scalpman : Stopped final 1/4
[08:15 am] scalpman : Good one though, Thanks Kris...
[08:15 am] mikewd2 -: nice work scalpman[08:15 am] mikewd2 -: i will take 1.32 any day
[08:16 am] mikewd2 -: hit right below trend line and heading down
[08:17 am] ltacher : AEO still dropping
[08:18 am] scalpman : Kris, if time, help me with the stop on AEO. You are still in I stopped at 1% red?
[08:20 am] scalpman : Perhaps, you gave yourself more room with this...?
[08:20 am] ltacher : AA is dropping hard
[08:21 am] ltacher : going back up nice AA
[08:22 am] scalpman : AEO was my only significant RED on a $XXX Green Day.
[08:22 am] leo : Scalpman I was hit by AEO hard too.
[08:23 am] mikewd2 -: thought you guys shorted AEO?
[08:23 am] mikewd2 -: that was the call, right?
[08:23 am] ltacher : AEO was a short guys
[08:23 am] leo : Now I am holding AU short.
[08:24 am] scalpman : Yes AEO was an early Short.
[08:24 am] ltacher : mikewd2 I think so
[08:24 am] leo : No Candelas, LIVE.
[08:24 am] candelas : Leo, u still on sim?
[08:24 am] Brent : yes mikewd2, but some guys may have took it long off the bottom. Kris didn't call that one though
[08:25 am] mikewd2 -: that's what usually happens when i go on my own call, also - i lose
[08:25 am] ltacher : I am still holding few shares
[08:25 am] leo : Thnx Candelas. Today is red.
[08:25 am] candelas : keep share size small
[08:26 am] candelas : or share size per trade
[08:26 am] candelas : how many shares u trading so far
[08:26 am] scalpman : I was Short AEO at 10.50 and actually side wide stop for the $10 stock. I was stopped at $10.79 almost 3%.
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: i see scalpman, that happened to me on TIN yesterday - good call but the bounce up got me
[08:27 am] Brent : just a recommendation scalpman. the high of day was 6 cents above that , I had my stop at 10.87
[08:27 am] ltacher : just bought 1000 shares f at 10.18
[08:27 am] leo : I traded 1/4 of my capital.
[08:28 am] ltacher : out on F 10.25
[08:28 am] ltacher : let go F
[08:29 am] scalpman : Kris did you reenter or just set a higher stop or "NO stop"? Not complaining, just trying to understand better.
[08:29 am] candelas : but how many shares
[08:30 am] scalpman : I actually set the AEQ S stop near the open...I figured if it broke that, than it might rebound strong,. I did by a few cents and then began its downward trend... 10.90 would have been the Ideal stop in hindsight.
[08:32 am] scalpman : The opening idea on AEO short and where to set the stop.
[08:32 am] scalpman : ...but you mentioned you were still in...
[08:32 am] ltacher : hey guys when you get a chance what is .42c analysis you guys talk about all the time ..thanks
[08:32 am] scalpman : I was stopped at 10.79
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: thanks
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: Kris, we are trying to understand why you were not stopped out on AEO short
[08:34 am] scalpman : Thanks Kris. the 10.88 was determined how?
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: Your entry price?
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: ok, if you have time
[08:36 am] qwert : kris do you keep that info on the chart 52 week high/low
[08:36 am] ltacher : out on my AEO all
[08:38 am] scalpman : Well, that the difference between the pros and us amateurs....still my 10.79 was a good "guess"....but costly.
[08:38 am] leo : OK, let's look forward. I hope more winners will come because I am in red today.
[08:38 am] Kris : were you half or full scalpman?
[08:39 am] scalpman : Still I can learn from this...by checking the daily...and looking for that last low which was 10.81....that would have sufficed. So, this is good.
[08:39 am] derns : BAC moving up to 7.00 again
[08:40 am] scalpman : Kris...half size
[08:40 am] Kris : then you did fine, just watch for solid resistance on the longer term chart and give youself a few more cents over it.
[08:40 am] scalpman : Actually, only 1/4 size, because I am trading only $12,000ish
[08:41 am] scalpman : Yes...
[08:41 am] scalpman : Very good.
[08:41 am] scalpman : I see it...
[08:41 am] Kris : that resistance will stand guard over your stop
[08:41 am] Kris : it almost got me too, but I waited for the fail before adding.
[08:42 am] scalpman : I follow...
[08:42 am] leo : Kris now what's is the stop for AU and it's not looking good.
[08:42 am] Kris : wish I would have help out longer for the market to come down like I did.
[08:42 am] Kris : then it bumped my average so I can move up my first target and I have less to go before profit and moving my stop down.
[08:42 am] Kris : make sense?
[08:43 am] candelas : actually u did Kris, u said start looking for shorts
[08:44 am] qwert : anybody if you have a minute can you explain how to add 52 week high/ low on daily esignal[08:44 am] leo : I see. I am still holding it. Thnx Kris.
[08:45 am] mikewd2 -: i can't figure it out on etrade pro either
[08:45 am] candelas : u were talking from the gut
[08:45 am] Brent : "yes, that was a nice call Kert, Thanks"
[08:46 am] mikewd2 -: i can add the 52 week low to the postions window which works
[08:46 am] Brent : have a good night anthonyb[08:46 am] anthonyb : See you all tomorrow. Thanks all. Little better than yesterday.
[08:48 am] mhaus : fmx[08:48 am] candelas : .42 plus .08??
[08:48 am] Brent : lol[08:51 am] joeytsa : they are almost as bad as analysts who downgrade a company after its dropped 40 points
[08:51 am] joeytsa : is CNBC really just getting on the Bakken bandwagon??
[08:52 am] jsn13 : Hey guys, anyone holding TNA for swing trade? Will u all wait till BB speaks on Friday and see what happen b4 closing ur position? Or have u guys closed ur position juz now?
[08:53 am] mikewd2 -: depends on what happens between now and friday talk
[08:53 am] ltacher : kris you thoughts on RENN
[08:54 am] joeytsa : jsn13..i am not currently long, but there is always a risk in holding something through an announcement, but if right you can get a nice payoff
[08:55 am] joeytsa : same thing with earnings announcement....
[08:55 am] garyb : jsn I'm keeping my eye on my TNA close...might get out tomorrow aft. before announcement
[08:56 am] ltacher : Couth a nice fish AEO thank you kris was a very good trade
[08:56 am] jsn13 : Mitch, Kris and Brent what do u all think? Any idea?
[08:56 am] garyb : we'll see how today and tomorrow go on TNA
[08:57 am] ltacher : watching TCK
[08:58 am] lightning : S HANS
[08:58 am] joeytsa : friday i might look for a weekly option straddle on something volatile depending on premiums
[09:01 am] vans : etr strong today
[09:03 am] mhaus : Kris, he was asking about TNA for swing
[09:03 am] Kris : any idea about what jsn13?
[09:05 am] vans : sndk should rebound soon
[09:05 am] ltacher : mhaus can i give you my opinion
[09:06 am] joeytsa : well below the 2002 low
[09:06 am] joeytsa : this market is very oversold based on the % of stocks above their 30wk ma...but that doesnt mean its over selling
[09:06 am] joeytsa : almost as low as the '08 lows
[09:08 am] joeytsa : we aren't too far away from an oversold buy signal on the p&f chart though
[09:10 am] ltacher : guys Could Bernake send stocks higher again with this QE3
[09:11 am] qwert : joey what is p&f chart?
[09:11 am] joeytsa : qwert : point and figure
[09:12 am] joeytsa : they reduce market noise and you can see a switch really easy
[09:12 am] joeytsa : i use them just to get a different view of things
[09:13 am] joeytsa : i mainly use them on the overall market/indexs...sometimes on stocks but not too often
[09:14 am] joeytsa : Mitch was giving a lesson yesterday on looking at things from a different perspective...
[09:15 am] qwert : never heard of that
[09:15 am] joeytsa : i have been also studying the ichimoku cloud charts just for something new
[09:16 am] joeytsa : they are available at stockcharts.com for free
[09:17 am] qwert : okay thanks
[09:17 am] ltacher : Kris are you still holding AU I considering small short since went up 43.33 and back down
[09:18 am] Kris : no, I thought I posted that I got stopped out on AU at 11:13 at 43.17
[09:19 am] ltacher : thank you
[09:19 am] Kris : [08:44 am] Kris : I stopped out on AU on that move up over 43.17 at 11:13am
[09:23 am] vans : Anybody read about that report that came out today awhile ago. Was it good news. Should we expect a move back up today or breaking the open to the down side?
[09:23 am] ltacher : Gold is under attack again ..I could imagine why AU was a difficult trade
[09:25 am] rusty : HRBN negative article out
[09:25 am] garyb : A russian rocket just exploded...don't know if that would affect the stock market
[09:26 am] rusty : just saying
[09:26 am] rusty : earthquake yesterday and up 300
[09:26 am] ltacher : garyb was lunched or was an accident ?
[09:26 am] joeytsa : gar...in this market anything can set it off haha[09:27 am] rusty : The Russian space agency has confirmed the Progress M-12M cargo ship was not placed in the correct orbit by its rocket and fell back to Earth.
[09:28 am] joeytsa : President Obama's approval rating down to 38%
[09:29 am] vans : Hope Allen West jumps into the race in a couple months.
[09:30 am] ltacher : this was my best trade by far ..tnx kris[09:30 am] lightning : vans, don't you mean Adam West?
[09:30 am] joeytsa : i have read some things where democrats are hoping that Hillary will run against Obama for the dem nod
[09:32 am] mbear : If interested look at the GLL daily chart...looks like a typical swing trade call from Mitch, gold may be heading down for a few days
[09:32 am] doji : JSN13, I closed my position in TNA when it hit 40.00.... won't wait for Bernake .speach...
[09:33 am] joeytsa : gold is interesting...either a "bubble" breaking or lots of profit taking b4 the jh meeting
[09:34 am] vans : What time is the speech so we are ready to play it?
[09:35 am] vans : Was up nice on TNA then the phone rang, My daughter, had to answer, Lost most of the profit. SH---t
[09:35 am] jsn13 : Thanks for the input....appreciate it.....
[09:35 am] joeytsa : not sure if that's eastern or Wyoming time
[09:35 am] joeytsa : bernanke supposed to talk at 10am
[09:36 am] vans : Thanks, Not a play today then.
[09:36 am] vans : 10 AM Thursday?
[09:36 am] joeytsa : friday[09:36 am] doji : Van you are not the only one... I lost money by not taking profits at the top today
[09:37 am] vans : Easy to see a top when you are at a bottom
[09:37 am] doji : That is right, at some point I had my stop set at 43.... but then I decided to hold my position
[09:38 am] ltacher : MA holding very well
[09:41 am] joeytsa : can't find the link..but read a really interesting theory on how the economy wont grow due to the baby boomers entering the savings/retirement era as opposed to the investing side of things like 15-20 years ago
[09:42 am] ltacher : I hope BAC holds above 6 dollar for little bit for a good trade ..
[09:43 am] lightning : where's Mitch when we need a little BAC tirade?
[09:44 am] joeytsa : putting on his hazmat suit before he touches that one
[09:45 am] lightning : lol[09:46 am] ltacher : lightning i was looking at the chart for my two hours studying on BAC it needs to hold support at 6 $ so i would traded at that point in my personal opinion ..i won't bet on it and also was on CNBC last night
[09:46 am] eyes-inthenow : and I had 400 shares BAC
[09:47 am] lightning : I actually traded it for a gain yesterday.
[09:48 am] ltacher : I thought so was going down ..good for you..
[09:48 am] lightning : (short, though)
[09:49 am] lightning : but it is definitely a short below $6 in my opinion
[09:49 am] doji : I had 1000 shares but sold after the comments yesterday.... if I only had a crystal balll.....
[09:50 am] ltacher : I don't think it would get that low but is too much risk for me with any banks stocks but the one I like Citigroup for a long trade
[09:51 am] ltacher : I am still watching C for long term
[09:51 am] lightning : maybe not, but yesterday's low on BAC was 6.01. I agree C is a better long to look for
[09:52 am] ltacher : C has global Exposure I would traded as emerging play not as a bank play ..just my opinion
[09:52 am] lightning : covering HANS here for small gain.
[09:53 am] mhaus : Kris, how do you manage to change the exchange from "default" to "smart" or "ARCA" in NT7 for placing orders with IB?
[09:57 am] ltacher : C before has 10:1 reversal i was holding it for 3 $ sold it after the split @ 45 $ shares I being watching it ever since ..and now is trading at $ 2.74 after the split 27.52 very inexpensive in my view
[09:58 am] ltacher : I am not getting in as of yet i would wait for the next support area on C
[09:58 am] lightning : little earthquake in SF...didn't feel all the big...maybe a 2-3.
[09:58 am] lightning : just another routine rocker
[09:58 am] joeytsa : one in CO yesterday and one in upstate NY yesterday also besides the big one in VA
[09:59 am] mhaus : AGN
[09:59 am] joeytsa : CVD with a nice little pop
[10:00 am] ltacher : F moving higher
[10:03 am] ltacher : Mitch Your thought os DIG
[10:04 am] mhaus : RIMM
[10:07 am] joeytsa : AGQ with a another big tumble
[10:15 am] joeytsa : i still see silver as a longterm bull market once things shake out
[10:16 am] joeytsa : CLH hod[10:17 am] vans : etr hod[10:18 am] vans : aeo wants to pull back soon
[10:29 am] qwert : mhaus thanks for rimm drop in the bucket
[10:30 am] vans : nice ride though
[10:30 am] vans : Forgot to move up my Fixed Profit on etr, out darn it
[10:31 am] lightning : S RIMM
[10:41 am] mhaus : IDCC dropping
[10:42 am] lightning : covering 1/2 RIMM
[10:44 am] lightning : DANG on dang fire
[10:53 am] mhaus : qwert, every drop helps fill the bucket :-)
[10:55 am] mhaus : Bad Dog! Dog eats $10,000 worth of diamonds. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44254505/ns/tod ay-today_pets_and_animals/t/dog-eats-worth-di amonds/?gt1=43001
[10:55 am] lightning : covered rest of RIMM short. little ka-ching[10:56 am] qwert : i was with u lightning both ways on rimm[10:58 am] lightning : ka-ching x 2
[11:02 am] mhaus : Japanese find millions in lost tsunami cash - and return it
[11:03 am] mhaus : That is 30M Dollars, lightning
[11:03 am] mhaus : not YEN
[11:03 am] lightning : Good. I think I lost 100 million yen.
[11:04 am] mhaus : Sorry, you are out of luck
[11:04 am] lightning : RIMM faked me out of the short.
[11:04 am] lightning : lol. Oh well.
[11:05 am] mhaus : not to worry. you will make it up in the Trading Room
[11:05 am] mhaus : Amen!
[11:05 am] lightning : mhaus, may we both make $30 million here!
[11:07 am] ltacher : TIN Holding well
[11:10 am] ltacher : Mitch I being watching VCI i see in your Weekly report is a open price at 22.86 is already trading at 23.68 is it too late to get in VCI
[11:15 am] ltacher : in TCK long 40.17
[11:24 am] lightning : watching HRBN for a long opportunity...at some point.
[11:25 am] garyb : TNA is like a rubber ball today, bouncing all over the place
[11:28 am] lightning : i am going to pass on HRBN. Don't like the spread of .10-.15
[11:28 am] doji : Are you still in TNA Garyb?
[11:29 am] rusty : http://seekingalpha.com/article/289550-harbin -electric-who-allegedly-doctored-saic-reports
[11:29 am] lightning : and that too.
[11:30 am] ltacher : Kris question the list of stocks that you go through every morning did you trade any of this long list you had this morning
[11:30 am] garyb : Yes doji ... I have hope to see a little life out of it yet!
[11:33 am] lightning : Thanks, but I didn't trade it. Spreads of about 1% are not in my comfort zone.
[11:34 am] vans : SODA trying to go lower
[11:36 am] qwert : awesome
[11:36 am] eyes-inthenow : up 200
[11:36 am] eyes-inthenow : Better than Yesterday that is for sure
[11:37 am] rusty : HRBN responds to blog posting
[11:37 am] rusty : HRBN news
[11:37 am] doji : Just came back from a meeting
[11:38 am] rusty : HRBN
[11:38 am] rusty : "As I have mentioned before, we fully expected that die-hard short sellers would continue to try and create opportunities to make money for themselves to the detriment of the large community of loyal shareholders of the Company as we get closer to the expected completion of the pending going private transaction," said Mr. Yang Tianfu, Chairman and CEO.
[11:41 am] joeytsa : BTU hitting new highs
[11:42 am] doji : not a good day for me in the trading... flat, sold TNA...
[11:43 am] ltacher : went up 46
[11:43 am] ltacher : dogi what price did you sell it
[11:43 am] garyb : you sold it at 40?
[11:43 am] doji : When?
[11:43 am] doji : I had my stop at that price
[11:43 am] doji : 40
[11:44 am] doji : It went up to 43.6
[11:44 am] ltacher : yeah sorry 43
[11:44 am] garyb : maybe Itacher is referring to the end of day today! ;
[11:45 am] ltacher : did you take a loss on the trade
[11:45 am] doji : Yes, small one
[11:45 am] doji : Yes, and then I will ask myself how dumb I was
[11:48 am] ltacher : you make it up ..TNA is moving very fast and all over the place very difficult unless you got it at 36 -39 range price to see the quick profit ..i haven't traded it since last week ..I like Uppro is not as V as TNA
[11:48 am] doji : Not good handling my positions when they come against me
[11:49 am] garyb : TNA is like a wild bull! And it's easy to get thrown off!
[11:49 am] doji : Yeah, I got TNA yesterday at 36.5 and sold it at 40 and then get it back at 40.4 and closed today at 40.0
[11:49 am] doji : I should have held TNA at 36.5
[11:50 am] ltacher : some action this morning dogi but then it die out .. i call it money flow
[11:50 am] ltacher : good over you are + correct ?
[11:50 am] garyb : and the thing is....when the market recovers a bit the stock will fly...maybe go to 60 or more so that is why I'm hanging in there
[11:50 am] doji : Same with BAC I closed yesterday after the comments here at 6.2
[11:52 am] joeytsa : nic call on WSM Brent !!!
[11:53 am] lightning : I shorted WSM too (30.87)
[11:53 am] joeytsa : small move
[11:53 am] joeytsa : in and out...25cents
[11:53 am] Brent : nice, good job
[11:53 am] Brent : did you get it joeytsa? wasn't expecting it to drop as I was typing
[11:54 am] ltacher : watch this stock dogi I like it ..TCK i did alot of research pst week i found this interesting ...it always move with the market take look see your thoughts
[11:54 am] joeytsa : i took a chance on WSM when i saw the 1st red bar...kept a tight stop just in case i was wrong
[11:55 am] qwert : spy trying to break out again
[11:58 am] vans : SPY at trip;le top
[11:58 am] ltacher : the chart looks like is making a head and shoulder in one min chart and look at the one min bar
[12:00 pm] lightning : yep, just covered WSM. Thanks, Brent.
[12:00 pm] Brent : nice work lightning
[12:02 pm] ltacher : three o'clock approaching a reminder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kyWH8eWP8M
[12:05 pm] candelas : tank u Bwent[12:06 pm] candelas : lol[12:06 pm] Brent : yor wellkome[12:10 pm] joeytsa : hope you all have a great rest of the day..good trading to all
[12:13 pm] ltacher : made my final decision i got VCI for a swing trade
[12:15 pm] doji : SPY breaking resistance
[12:16 pm] ltacher : lol[12:16 pm] ltacher : Holding my TCK
[12:16 pm] lightning : lol[12:16 pm] doji : Needs to break 118 to further move up
[12:17 pm] stevemld : SPY another assault on 118
[12:22 pm] mhaus : rimm again
[12:24 pm] vans : anybody sleeping on TNA
[12:24 pm] qwert : watching fosl[12:24 pm] mhaus : No, but it sure woke me up!
[12:24 pm] mbear : BAC broke $7
[12:24 pm] ltacher : mbear i see BAC wow i cannot believe it
[12:24 pm] garyb : yes I have TNA vans
[12:25 pm] vans : I make so much playing tna and tza that I am afraid to sleep on them
[12:25 pm] mbear : Itacher - got BAC for a long swing this morning, hoping to get out around $9 within a few days/weeks
[12:25 pm] lightning : yes. my fillings are worth much less today than yesterday
[12:26 pm] ltacher : nice mbear ..
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: silver down almost 3 bucks, very nice
[12:27 pm] ltacher : mbear at what price you got BAC
[12:28 pm] stevemld : market banking on QE3 might be ugly if they don't at least hint
[12:28 pm] ltacher : I got VCI Mitch ..liking it so far
[12:28 pm] doji : BAC broke 7
[12:30 pm] ltacher : doji nice ...
[12:30 pm] doji : Thanks Itacher... a little risky but worthy
[12:30 pm] doji : Got TNA 42.0, sold at 42.9... that made my day.... Thanks!
[12:31 pm] vans : OK, that settles it for me. I will keep trading the TNA TZA days, much more secure profit and always long in one of them. miss some but sleep at night.
[12:31 pm] ltacher : hey the market is all about risk and management good job parter[12:31 pm] doji : Do you mean daytrading TNA and TZA Vans?
[12:32 pm] vans : They do swing
[12:32 pm] vans : averaging 1% account growth a day, but only using 25% of account.
[12:32 pm] lara : Mitch, you were right on with TNA reaching 42 or 43 today!
[12:32 pm] doji : and not swings
[12:33 pm] ltacher : better yet Tarzan and Land of Giants 1 of 2
[12:34 pm] ltacher : My tarzan is UPRO is trading at 52
[12:34 pm] doji : Here it comes the SPY again
[12:35 pm] garyb : if we have another plus day
[12:35 pm] garyb : Hoping TNA can hit 45 tomorrow
[12:37 pm] vans : If GLD legs down to 168 tomarrow, will be a nice play
[12:37 pm] stevemld : really nice run by CLF
[12:37 pm] ltacher : Mitch your VCI look yami-
[12:38 pm] ltacher : vans you think they will be more down days for gold I am trying to trade DZZ is the reverse to gold but is under 5 don't like those
[12:39 pm] rusty : LPHI radar
[12:40 pm] ltacher : rusty short or long thanks
[12:40 pm] ltacher : loving my UPRO
[12:41 pm] rusty : hate to sound simplistic but long when its oversold and short into a bounce
[12:42 pm] rusty : lol[12:42 pm] ltacher : mitch has it in the screen thank you rusty
[12:43 pm] vans : Stand to reason if market is improving then gold will see people leave, grudgingly. but with friday speech coming, I wouldn't go against gold now.
[12:43 pm] rusty : been slim pickens lately I will try better
[12:44 pm] ltacher : thank you vans for your intake awesome
[12:45 pm] vans : wish everyday was like today, mostly slower and predictable. CMG option working well
[12:46 pm] Mitch K: is stevemld here?
[12:46 pm] ltacher : C is at 28
[12:47 pm] vans : missed LPHI, didn't see post
[12:47 pm] vans : abx flying
[12:47 pm] rusty : ltacher most of the time my trades are counter to the trend...so radar on a falling stock = playing for bounce
[12:47 pm] rusty : especially if its falling hard and fast
[12:47 pm] neuronx : Mitch are you short on LPHI>?
[12:48 pm] vans : abx near resistance
[12:48 pm] neuronx : ok tks[12:48 pm] Mitch K: no neuro[12:48 pm] Mitch K: no
[12:48 pm] Mitch K: but its a pretty good idea
[12:49 pm] neuronx : I think is unpredictable now >@
[12:49 pm] ltacher : rusty so falling wedge s a bounce
[12:51 pm] ltacher : Signal double bottom double top etc[12:53 pm] rusty : all i use on these trades is one minute candles and volume (and a quick glance at daily support resistance)
[12:53 pm] ltacher : I have to find some shares for LPHI
[12:54 pm] ltacher : isn't Short
[12:54 pm] candelas : heads up 6 min. before close
[12:55 pm] Mitch K: you been doing good?
[12:55 pm] Mitch K: hey how has it been going candles?
[12:55 pm] ltacher : I pass on LPHI ..i will watch it for tomorrow
[12:55 pm] candelas : very well Mitch
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: your trading getting better?
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: oh, nice
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: lol, well he can't help it.
[12:56 pm] Mitch K: is Kris still abusing you?
[12:56 pm] lightning : Thanks TSA and everyone. See you tomorrow
[12:56 pm] candelas : very very consistent
[12:56 pm] candelas : ur right
[12:56 pm] candelas : every second '
[12:57 pm] Mitch K: much better, exercising more, a lot more swimming. Got a huge pool in the back and i hardly use it
[12:57 pm] Mitch K: he was abused as a child
[12:57 pm] lisas : Bye Mitch, thanks!
[12:57 pm] candelas : lol[12:57 pm] candelas : how is ur back?
[12:58 pm] stevemld : good day guys thanks to everybody
[12:58 pm] Mitch K: the problem is we sit so much,
[12:58 pm] Mitch K: thanks ltacher[12:58 pm] Mitch K: i ordered a custom table to stand up and work on computers
[12:58 pm] ltacher : good night mitch thank you for helping us you are the best
[12:58 pm] garyb : Mitch...I had a horrible back...now I use this stuff and it's like a miracle! Voltaren...try it out!
[12:58 pm] candelas : if u did not have pool u would swim everyday
[12:58 pm] candelas : exactly
[12:59 pm] stevemld : ok
[12:59 pm] rusty : lol, the more I sit, the more I become shaped like a pear
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: what length of holding time do you guys want for swing trades?
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: hey stevemld, i had a question for you, or anyone
[01:00 pm] staz : In this market, 2 days
[01:00 pm] neuronx : 1 week
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: you guys are traders more than the mass of population but ok, i got the picture 2 days to 2 weeks. now i know what to do
[01:00 pm] mikewd2 -: nice day, 4 for 4
[01:00 pm] mhaus : 1 day, over the weekend and 3 days for me
[01:00 pm] garyb : longer if the trade is going well
[01:00 pm] garyb : 2 weeks
[01:00 pm] candelas : or 2 weeks most
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: ok, 2-6 days, i like that
[01:00 pm] candelas : 2-6 days
[01:01 pm] stevemld : it will cap off a great trading room mitch impatiently waiting
[01:01 pm] rusty : look forward to it mitch, thx
[01:01 pm] Mitch K: yeah sorry steve, it's really been a complicated process
[01:01 pm] ltacher : Kris thank you for your r graeat help
[01:01 pm] lisas : Bye Kris, Thanks for the great calls!
[01:02 pm] hawaii : 2-6 would be great thank you team
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: sure candles
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: hey hawaii, what island do you live
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: great to here gary
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: Gary, this is the slow team
[01:02 pm] ltacher : Brent thank you good night
[01:02 pm] leo : Thank you Mitch, Kris, Brent and all. Have a nice day.
[01:02 pm] garyb : Mitch...First couple of days in the trading room...love it!
[01:02 pm] garyb : lol..but a fun team I can see!
[01:02 pm] candelas : thanks a million Mitch
[01:03 pm] lisas : Thanks all, Mitch, Brent, Kris, and room members. Hope to see you tomorrow, may have to race a hurricane to New York, lol[01:03 pm] hawaii : oahu[01:04 pm] observer : Thx, Mitch, Kris,Brent, Traders. Had winners on AMTD SNDK TCK QCOR UTHR CERN
[01:04 pm] Mitch K: you know i go to Maui for about a month each year? i think I'll try Kona next time. When I was in Maui in February, I usually call a couple of subscribers from our database and see if they need any help but they weren't home and never returned calls. Must have thought it was a telemarketer
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