Chat Highlights From 08/17/2011

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[06:18 am] Kris : I'm out 1/4 NBR
[06:19 am] Brent : good morning
[06:19 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:19 am] Kris : there, that's better
[06:19 am] Kris : This morning I'm watching DLB, CF, HTS, ADSK, AMP, TGT, CHS, SNY, CSIQ as possible long trades
[06:20 am] Kris : CBG, MWW, INFY, OSG, TTM, BCSI, DELL and FLO as short trades
[06:20 am] Kris : We're moving up premarket so watch SPY to see if she can break 120.70
[06:21 am] Kris : lol papadoc[06:29 am] Kris : Time To Rock! Let's make some money! Stay focused.
[06:31 am] Kris : ANF long half position
[06:31 am] Kris : LULU short half position
[06:31 am] Kris : never mind, don't chase SODA, dropped too fast
[06:31 am] Kris : SODA short half position
[06:32 am] Kris : ADSK long over new hod[06:33 am] Kris : FSLR short half position
[06:33 am] Kris : LTD long half position
[06:35 am] Kris : short second half LULU
[06:36 am] Kris : NTAP short half position
[06:36 am] Kris : stop LULU over 55.65
[06:37 am] Kris : SPY pushing resistance levels
[06:38 am] Kris : out half FSLR short
[06:38 am] Kris : out half LULU short
[06:38 am] Kris : RIMM short half position
[06:39 am] Kris : looking for a weak bounce in NTAP and then a break to new lod, waiting to get my second half.
[06:40 am] Kris : BIDU short half position
[06:40 am] Kris : watching for new lod in LULU
[06:41 am] Kris : out another 1/4 FSLR short
[06:41 am] Kris : out half BIDU short
[06:42 am] Kris : FTNT long over 21.03
[06:42 am] Kris : out half RIMM short
[06:42 am] Kris : SPLS short half position
[06:43 am] Kris : IMAX coming down to test yesterdays low
[06:43 am] Kris : NTAP looking weak so far
[06:44 am] Kris : out another 1/4 LULU short
[06:44 am] Kris : RVBD short half position
[06:45 am] Kris : buyers coming in, SPY going to test that 120.70 area again
[06:45 am] Kris : here we go
[06:45 am] Kris : I guess she heard us
[06:45 am] Kris : out half SPLS short
[06:46 am] Kris : heading for 121
[06:46 am] Kris : there she goes
[06:47 am] Kris : IMAX downgraded
[06:47 am] Kris : not going to help the bounce off 17.00
[06:47 am] Kris : YOKU long half position
[06:49 am] Kris : BHP long half position
[06:49 am] Kris : FTNT long half position
[06:51 am] Kris : out half FTNT long
[06:52 am] Kris : come on ANF, you can do it
[06:52 am] Kris : looking for a new hod in ANF
[06:53 am] Kris : BHP moving up
[06:54 am] Kris : looking for new hod in YOKU soon
[06:55 am] Kris : gonna try and be patient with yoku long
[06:55 am] Kris : long gone
[06:55 am] Kris : no Itchier, you should have stopped out already
[06:55 am] Kris : YOKU breaking hod[06:56 am] Kris : out half ANF long
[06:57 am] Kris : bert is gonna be mad at me
[06:57 am] Kris : I better start to find more trades
[06:57 am] Kris : out half YOKU long
[06:58 am] Kris : and near trendline support too
[06:58 am] Kris : bull-chit
[06:58 am] Kris : IMAX new lod[06:58 am] Kris : watch SPY here coming into support
[06:59 am] Kris : BHP lagging, starting to lose patience.
[06:59 am] Kris : out 1/4 YOKU long
[07:00 am] Kris : WAG short half position
[07:00 am] Kris : yes, I would try to take some profit here soon anthony[07:01 am] Kris : and leave some to break 16.90
[07:01 am] Kris : SINA negative comments coming out
[07:03 am] Kris : BSFT long half position, it's a little thin so start light
[07:03 am] Kris : YOKU new hod[07:04 am] Kris : next support 120.70
[07:04 am] Kris : SPY having trouble coming off support here
[07:05 am] Kris : LNKD short under 82.77
[07:07 am] Brent : DNDN approaching resistance at 13.95
[07:07 am] Kris : will watch for a weak bounce in DAN and then a short on a new lod[07:07 am] Kris : yes, could retest lows if we can't find support in the market joey.
[07:08 am] Kris : HUM long
[07:08 am] Kris : see if SPY can break trendline here on the bounce
[07:10 am] Kris : ABX long over 51.12
[07:11 am] Kris : could give a nice push over 21.30
[07:11 am] Kris : watch for a new hod on FTNT, still holding up well.
[07:11 am] Kris : we could get a bounce in NTAP near the double bottom but I think there could be more money in a weak bounce and then fail of the lod as a short setup.
[07:12 am] Kris : go YOKU go
[07:12 am] Kris : I would have cut loose too joey.
[07:12 am] Kris : let it get loaded up with longs first
[07:12 am] Kris : YOKU new hod[07:13 am] Kris : buyers coming in here
[07:13 am] Kris : see if SPY can break 121
[07:13 am] Kris : then test hod 121.20 area
[07:14 am] Kris : out half HUM long here, stop second half BE
[07:15 am] Kris : out all YOKU long
[07:15 am] Kris : ZION long half position
[07:15 am] Kris : ZION trades a little thin so I would stay smaller than normal
[07:16 am] Kris : MAKO long
[07:17 am] Kris : JOYG long half position
[07:18 am] Kris : SPY testing hod[07:19 am] Kris : FTNT about to break hod[07:19 am] Kris : see if we can get a small pullback this time and then a break on through
[07:19 am] Kris : spy
[07:20 am] Kris : SWN long half
[07:21 am] Kris : nice trendline in ANF
[07:21 am] Kris : see if it can hold up here and then push for another new high
[07:21 am] Kris : textbook
[07:21 am] Kris : you guys were able to take some profit on MAKO on that spike?
[07:22 am] Kris : CREE coming into support
[07:22 am] Kris : out another 1/4 ANF long
[07:22 am] Kris : YOKU making new highs
[07:23 am] Kris : out half WAG short
[07:23 am] Kris : what a beast
[07:24 am] Kris : watch that last low in the SPY, we lose that and we could get more selling. Around 120.75
[07:25 am] Kris : 5min to oil inventories
[07:25 am] Kris : out half JOYG long
[07:26 am] Kris : FTNT breaking out to new hod[07:26 am] Kris : JOYG working, I just had to dump half to lighten her load.
[07:26 am] Kris : there she goes
[07:26 am] Kris : ZION holding up, at trendline support, looking for a push to new hod.
[07:27 am] Kris : damn
[07:27 am] Kris : didn't I say I wanted to stay patient in YOKU?
[07:27 am] Kris : YOKU
[07:28 am] Kris : FTNT look to start taking more off here soon
[07:28 am] Kris : VRX long half position
[07:29 am] Kris : OXY long half position
[07:30 am] Kris : geesh, analysts really fubar'd oil numbers
[07:31 am] Kris : TZOO short half position
[07:32 am] Kris : amen joey
[07:32 am] Kris : falling too fast
[07:32 am] Kris : only got partial fill on TZOO
[07:32 am] Kris : SWN needs to get moving here or I'm out
[07:33 am] Kris : out half TZOO short
[07:33 am] Kris : out ZION long
[07:34 am] Kris : I would like to see a bounce in OPEN before taking a short below the 63.00
[07:35 am] Kris : chinese having a problem with accounting again? what a shocker
[07:36 am] Kris : I think they got delisted recently
[07:36 am] Kris : PUDA!!!!!!
[07:37 am] Kris : as do a few others aaron[07:37 am] Kris : bummer, wish I would have been full on it.
[07:37 am] Kris : I don't watch PUDA but I have a friend who checks on it.
[07:37 am] Kris : out another 1/4 of my tiny spot of TZOO
[07:38 am] Kris : momma
[07:38 am] Kris : PWER long half position
[07:38 am] Kris : you can say that again candelass[07:40 am] Kris : out all TZOO short
[07:41 am] Kris : SPY nice consolidation range here, we could have a nice move either way.
[07:42 am] Kris : FTNT was a beauty
[07:43 am] Kris : ORLY long
[07:43 am] Kris : VRX new hod[07:46 am] Kris : BKS short
[07:46 am] Kris : BSFT new hod[07:46 am] Kris : starting to move up
[07:48 am] Kris : ARUN short half position
[07:53 am] Kris : out half BKS short
[07:54 am] Kris : now your turn ARUN, come on down
[07:54 am] Kris : out another 1/4 BKS short
[07:54 am] Kris : SPY broke that support level, let's see if she will come down more
[07:55 am] Kris : APKT short
[07:55 am] Kris : start with half on APKT
[07:56 am] Kris : if anyone got that short in OPEN, look to start covering some here.
[07:56 am] Kris : TZOO still falling
[07:57 am] Kris : DECK short half position
[07:57 am] Kris : LNKD new lows
[07:58 am] Kris : look for a small bounce here in PPDI, then consider a short on the new low breakdown.
[07:59 am] Kris : out half ARUN short
[08:01 am] Kris : SPY coming into lod support
[08:02 am] Brent : FOSL at support
[08:02 am] Kris : AMRN short
[08:02 am] Kris : we should get a bounce soon, not sure how strong it will be.
[08:03 am] Brent : bounce
[08:03 am] Brent : watching JWN for a bound
[08:03 am] Kris : lol[08:03 am] Kris : watching JWN for a long reversal soon
[08:07 am] Kris : BWLT short half position with tight stop in case the market moves up
[08:07 am] Kris : PPDI coming down, never gave any bounce
[08:08 am] Kris : out half DECK short
[08:10 am] Kris : BWLD
[08:10 am] Kris : sorry
[08:10 am] Kris : watching STP for a possible long setup soon
[08:11 am] Kris : much appreciated
[08:11 am] Kris : PHH breaking out
[08:11 am] Kris : then pass doji, you don't have to trade it
[08:12 am] Brent : JWN long half
[08:12 am] Kris : BVN at resistance level
[08:12 am] Kris : SPY coming into resistance soon
[08:13 am] Kris : DECK still coming down
[08:13 am] Kris : MHP ALERT
[08:13 am] Kris : MHP ALERT
[08:15 am] Brent : 40.95 on JWN eyes is my stop
[08:15 am] Kris : out another 1/4 DECK short
[08:16 am] Kris : SPY turning over at resistance here, watch for a retest of support
[08:18 am] Kris : looking for new low in APKT short
[08:19 am] Brent : take care anthonyb[08:19 am] Kris : RIMM breaking new lows
[08:19 am] Kris : trying to get out half AMRN short here
[08:20 am] Kris : HPQ short half position
[08:24 am] Kris : NTAP short half position
[08:25 am] Brent : stopped JWN
[08:26 am] Kris : AMRN moving down
[08:28 am] Kris : if you got BWLD short, look to cover some here and bring down you stop on the rest.
[08:29 am] Kris : SPY coming down into lod[08:31 am] Kris : short second half HPQ
[08:31 am] Kris : we have overhead trendline resistance on SPY
[08:33 am] Kris : 1 share
[08:35 am] Kris : 31.27 ronfrac, looking for a new lod and a nice move down
[08:35 am] Kris : look to take another small piece off BWLD short here soon
[08:36 am] Kris : SPY trying to lose 120.00
[08:39 am] Kris : come on HPQ, come on down
[08:40 am] Kris : out half HPQ short
[08:42 am] Kris : new lod on SPY
[08:45 am] Kris : out all BWLD
[08:45 am] Kris : that's a good target ronfrac, could give a small bounce and then trend down more into 31.00 area.
[08:47 am] Kris : 1% to 2% is a good size profit on a day trade
[08:47 am] Kris : depends on the price of the instrument ronfrac[08:48 am] Kris : and maybe 2 strikeouts or if your candelas, pop flys[08:48 am] Kris : you'll get a bunch of singles, a few doubles and maybe a triple or homerun.
[08:49 am] Kris : and his 1 share
[08:49 am] Kris : I intentionally walk candelas
[08:50 am] Kris : out all HPQ short
[08:51 am] Kris : I'm flat, gonna take a quick break. be back in 15.
[08:51 am] Kris : Mitch has the con
[08:52 am] Brent : SPY coming into overhead trendline resistance
[08:55 am] Mitch K: This is the daily chart of the SPY (SP500 etf) and it still is holding up with higher highs today. it needs to move up tomorrow for continuation. if the indexes turn over, consider reducing more longs
[08:59 am] Brent : CLX getting some volume
[09:13 am] Mitch K: when the market bounces, consider using that bounce to sell some of your long swing positions into that bounce
[09:15 am] Mitch K: advanced trade
[09:15 am] Mitch K: going to be a long bounce here around 67.55
[09:15 am] Mitch K: IDCC moving up
[09:15 am] Mitch K: on IDCC
[09:16 am] Mitch K: won't last long though, maybe a min
[09:18 am] Mitch K: on a chart like IDCC, the overall trade is a short but when it moves up to 71.87 like that and comes back to 67.55, there was a quick long bounce
[09:28 am] Mitch K: you see that 2nd helping short on IDCC, this chart pattern you often get that 2nd short and after you cover the 2nd helping, its over. no trades after that usually, best to move on to something else
[09:54 am] Kris : CBG short under 15.96
[09:58 am] Kris : SPY coming down into a double bottom support
[10:31 am] Kris : the price sonorant
[10:33 am] Kris : I think that's one of the most commonly overlooked pieces of data for new traders.
[10:33 am] Kris : is volume
[10:36 am] Kris : running over long stops
[10:36 am] Kris : TZOO broke support on daily previous low, that's what triggered the big selloff.
[10:37 am] Kris : but you want to see that increasing volume at the end of the move.
[10:37 am] Kris : exactly rusty.
[10:37 am] Kris : gotta have that sustained or increasing volume.
[10:37 am] Kris : then those exaggerated moves many times give good reversals
[10:38 am] Kris : the last of the sheep piling in
[10:40 am] Kris : SPY breaking new low
[10:41 am] Kris : more sellers coming in here
[10:56 am] Kris : hey bert, was there any news at 10:30?
[10:56 am] Kris : I know there was something
[10:57 am] Brent : crude inventories
[10:57 am] Kris : ahhhhhhhh[10:57 am] Kris : comes out every wednesday[10:57 am] Kris : sweet drude[11:07 am] Kris : if it does hit the majority is economic report or news related.
[11:07 am] Kris : There has to be a catalyst gecko
[11:08 am] Kris : but you have to look at S/R levels to see if it's the right time or you're gonna get spanked.
[11:08 am] Kris : what about 10:30 yesterday?
[11:12 am] Kris : limit for everything except my stops
[11:13 am] Kris : just like rusty said, it comes back to volume. You can spot a systematic buy program trending a price over a few hours with little change in volume.
[11:14 am] Kris : do they sell on .42 marks too or is it a different price?
[11:14 am] Kris : so do they buy here or sell here?
[11:15 am] Kris : if you can think of it there is most likely a way to back test it.
[11:15 am] Kris : yes gecko
[11:15 am] Kris : you can back test for anything you can calculate with the data you have on that instrument.
[11:16 am] Kris : I have noticed a pattern
[11:17 am] Kris : I only spot time reversals when gecko is in the room.
[11:56 am] Brent : SPY approaching resistance
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a great night everyone, see you in the morning

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[01:00 pm] Brent : nice work qwert[01:00 pm] observer : Take care all
[01:00 pm] qwert : see you all tomorrow have a great night 12 w- 2 l awesome day
[01:00 pm] vans : yes, used reverse psychology on TNA and it broke. sucker
[05:54 am] papadoc : Guess Kris sold all of his NBH or whatever it was. Puts more money in his bag of tricks
[06:10 am] lightning : GM all. Oil has made a steady move up this morning.
[06:20 am] joeytsa : Gap ups : SPLS,SODA
[06:20 am] leo : Yes Candelas, I am on my mobile device. I have still issues with NinjaTrader.
[06:20 am] mando : hey folks. TOS wiped out all of my settings last night. What stochastic settings are you all using?
[06:21 am] joeytsa : Gap downs : KCI,BCSI,REGN
[06:21 am] joeytsa : keep an eye on SINA today...earnings release later
[06:21 am] joeytsa : no major reports except for crude oil inventories at 7:30PST
[06:22 am] joeytsa : TGT gapping up also
[06:27 am] randall : joeytsa: I don't know about you, but would you want a position in Sina before earnings? THe chinese theme is daunting. I think we could see some action indeed!
[06:28 am] joeytsa : i think SINA will have a lot of action today...i wouldn't hold through the announcement
[06:29 am] sonorant : kci[06:31 am] joeytsa : REGN spike up..target hit already !!
[06:32 am] randall : lnkd[06:33 am] randall : gggg[06:37 am] randall : bcsi moving big
[06:44 am] doji : All out BIDU 132.44, thanks Kris
[06:44 am] doji : from 134.68
[06:44 am] joeytsa : nice one doji[06:44 am] ltacher : In NTAP
[06:46 am] joeytsa : SINA just shot up
[06:46 am] ltacher : Nice Doji[06:47 am] ltacher : opinion on X
[06:48 am] joeytsa : just be careful, coming up to the 50% retracement from recent highs
[06:48 am] joeytsa : on SPY
[06:48 am] ltacher : holding TNA
[06:49 am] ltacher : UPRO
[06:51 am] joeytsa : FSLR really weak
[06:51 am] ltacher : in FTNT 21.05
[06:51 am] ltacher : we are doing it
[06:53 am] apple : thx K for FSLR 997.2 out 96.50
[06:54 am] ltacher : anything on NTAP
[06:55 am] doji : TNA 47.25, 48.12 out
[06:55 am] gecko : yoku at r2
[06:55 am] joeytsa : TGT stuck in the mud..bye bye
[06:57 am] joeytsa : FSLR might be setting up for a move, just came up abotu $1
[06:58 am] anthonyb : did anyone get short Imax on that move up?
[06:58 am] Brent : yeah, I can't find an idea when you have a position on all 7000 stocks Kert[06:58 am] joeytsa : haha[06:58 am] joeytsa : haha, yeah you have only had 30 so far :)
[06:58 am] mbear : lol[06:59 am] gecko : yoku nice thx kris[06:59 am] joeytsa : win bets on every horse in the race :)
[06:59 am] ltacher : on NTAP
[06:59 am] ltacher : yep Kris I stop out at 42.20 yep thanks
[07:00 am] anthonyb : if you were short IMAX at 17.22, would you cover now ,or hold?
[07:00 am] joeytsa : SINA falling
[07:00 am] ronfrac : ANF THX Kris
[07:01 am] apple : K - thx for YOKU 25.62 out 27.05
[07:02 am] apple : K - thx for ANF 66.31 out 67.80
[07:02 am] joeytsa : TGT finally working its way down, too bad i cut the cord
[07:02 am] joeytsa : yeah Kris..SINA ceo was mad that they were the only stock you havent mentioned yet :)
[07:03 am] ltacher : out on X
[07:04 am] doji : DNDN
[07:04 am] joeytsa : YOKU is rockin' today
[07:07 am] joeytsa : FSLR turning over?
[07:08 am] joeytsa : i agree Kris
[07:09 am] ltacher : ntap see it dropping again
[07:09 am] mikewd2 -: no trades yet today, having issues with etrade pro - won't stay connected with charts
[07:10 am] duckfan : Watching CLX
[07:10 am] joeytsa : gotta switch mike
[07:10 am] ltacher : out on FTNT 15 c profit not bad
[07:11 am] doji : DAN Short Kris?
[07:11 am] doji : lod[07:11 am] ronfrac : ntap turning up
[07:12 am] joeytsa : only mistake so far was losing patience with TGT, knew it would drop...just took too long for me
[07:12 am] rusty : BCSI radar
[07:13 am] joeytsa : execution cost..nothing big
[07:13 am] joeytsa : YOKU with a perfect bounce off of the 5day
[07:14 am] joeytsa : i figured SINA would be volatile today...4pts up/4pts down
[07:14 am] lightning : watching SINA for possible long
[07:16 am] doji : DNDN hod[07:17 am] joeytsa : keep eye on IRBT...getting added to the 600, nice run up so far
[07:17 am] lorie : oil inventory 15 min
[07:18 am] doji : Anyone long in DNDN?
[07:18 am] doji : Broke hod but resistance at 13.95 (Brent)
[07:18 am] gecko : new high dji[07:19 am] apple : yes doji[07:19 am] joeytsa : ANF on a nice steady climb
[07:19 am] observer : Thx, Kris, MAKO
[07:20 am] ltacher : go TNA go
[07:22 am] ltacher : wow wonderful day incredible
[07:23 am] gecko : at 10.30
[07:23 am] gecko : maybe 30 top?
[07:24 am] apple : does it get any better than this?
[07:25 am] anthonyb : TGT
[07:25 am] doji : Still in DNDN Apple?
[07:25 am] rusty : TUDO ipo getting ready
[07:27 am] candelas : on a mission
[07:28 am] joeytsa : SINA powering up
[07:28 am] joeytsa : yeah Kris.patient with 5000 shares
[07:29 am] apple : no doji[07:30 am] doji : Thanks Apple
[07:30 am] gecko : do the banks give that?
[07:30 am] gecko : new high dji[07:30 am] gecko : yoku 27 percent in 1 hr[07:30 am] joeytsa : oil quick drop
[07:31 am] joeytsa : i guess that's why they are analysts and not TSA members :)
[07:33 am] joeytsa : YOKU taking a quick breath
[07:35 am] apple : lol K
[07:35 am] ltacher : http://seekingalpha.com/article/287972-zhongp in-overstated-income-excessive-capex-and-dece ptive-saic-filings?source=feed+
[07:36 am] gecko : watching to see if ema 50 stops this 10.30 dip
[07:36 am] ltacher : like PUDA
[07:37 am] eyes-inthenow : Don't laugh at Puda I still own that
[07:37 am] gecko : 10.30 good time to reverse on yoku[07:37 am] lightning : PUDA hasn't traded since April.
[07:37 am] ltacher : I think so ..
[07:38 am] candelas : yoku givin little on short, gave alot on long
[07:38 am] mikewd2 -: I still own 2k shares of Puda[07:40 am] mabdeen7 : soda lod[07:45 am] candelas : 4 sure
[07:45 am] ltacher : FTNT grate trade i had leverage love it
[07:46 am] candelas : new ipo TUDO
[07:46 am] rusty : TUDO ipo lod[07:54 am] anthonyb : guys, I'm really getting the hang of this.
[07:57 am] ltacher : anthonyb me too loving it love day like today
[07:58 am] ltacher : alot of action
[07:59 am] doji : TNA tanking
[08:01 am] mbear : mcp[08:05 am] gecko : fosl nice thx brent[08:06 am] rusty : SODA radar
[08:07 am] apple : I want my BWLT with SODA
[08:07 am] doji : Is BWLT symbol correct Kris
[08:08 am] doji : I cannot get it in TDA
[08:09 am] ltacher : i am not getting a symbol on BWLT
[08:09 am] rusty : probably BWLD
[08:10 am] doji : Buffalo Wild
[08:10 am] doji : Too thin... and big spread
[08:10 am] mando : He is watching BWLD Buffalo Wild Wings
[08:11 am] doji : I know Kris, just giving my point of view....
[08:14 am] apple : twice is nice
[08:14 am] eyes-inthenow : what's your stop brent[08:18 am] anthonyb : ok, I'm done for today. Thank you K,B,M for all of your help. I look forward to seeing you all tomorrow :-)
[08:24 am] ltacher : Deck was my best trade wonderful love it
[08:25 am] ltacher : thank you Kris
[08:25 am] ronfrac : Knew I'd jinx SPY
[08:27 am] ltacher : TGT craked[08:33 am] candelas : 1 for you
[08:33 am] candelas : thx for jwn, got a great fill 40.78
[08:33 am] joeytsa : haha[08:34 am] ronfrac : K: What's your HPQ Target?
[08:35 am] doji : bac LOD
[08:37 am] doji : Have to leave guys.... when things were getting better... see you tomorrow
[08:38 am] rusty : AAPL Saw a 'significant' slowdown in Mac sales since the end of July - Apple Insider
[08:44 am] ronfrac : HPQ 31.07 next?
[08:47 am] ronfrac : I have to get used to .20-.30 profits.
[08:48 am] candelas : lol[08:48 am] candelas : what about a walk
[08:49 am] candelas : free up shares 4 others
[08:50 am] leo : Candelas I'll ask you some points for winning trades later.
[08:51 am] mabdeen7 : Kris is ARUN setting up for a long?
[08:52 am] ronfrac : I'm not here long enough to pick on anybody. Thx for HPQ. I'm out same reason
[08:52 am] vans : OK, sto and macd all bottom, 9:30, hope for 1 hr upswing in market.
[08:53 am] rusty : Kris watching too many submarine movies
[08:54 am] candelas : it is authentic
[08:55 am] ronfrac : Mitch: Great movies. Loved the Salmon. My grandson would like a flying computer.
[08:57 am] rusty : Venezuelan President Chavez Plans to nationalize the gold industry in Venezuela
[08:58 am] gecko : any report to explain 10.30 reversal?
[08:58 am] qwert : maybe crude inventories gecko
[08:58 am] vans : glad I was on the correct side of that drop
[09:09 am] vans : Thanks goodness for TZA
[09:10 am] rusty : AMRN radar... ceo scheduled to speak 12:40PM
[09:12 am] rusty : Jersey Shore's The Situation offered cash not to wear Abercrombie & Fitch
[09:12 am] vans : 44.75 area should be good bounce play TNA, thoughts
[09:14 am] sfarrill : IDCC
[09:16 am] vans : Thanks for IDCC, sweet play and fast
[09:17 am] rusty : APPLE INC <AAPL.O>, NOKIA <NOK1V.HE> AND QUALCOMM INC <QCOM.O> AMONG SEVERAL TELECOM AND TECH COMPANIES WEIGHING BIDS FOR INTERDIGITAL INC
[09:22 am] vans : This could be the base
[09:23 am] rusty : DECK radar
[09:23 am] vans : long TNA at 45.18, ready for drop though
[09:29 am] ltacher : back from lunch
[09:29 am] storage : thank you very much Mitch!
[09:30 am] ltacher : did i missed anything
[09:36 am] rusty : TZOO radar
[09:37 am] vans : why tzoo,
[09:38 am] rusty : oversold intraday and getting oversold on daily
[09:40 am] rusty : every analyst loved it at 90
[09:40 am] vans : OK, on pull back
[09:44 am] rusty : TZOO $1 bounce off low
[09:59 am] lightning : vans, who is your broker?
[09:59 am] vans : Broker wouldn't let me buy TZOO, on phone complaining now. also didn't fill tza long. I am switching. but only have 26k
[10:00 am] vans : GXTrader and Nurvans systems.
[10:01 am] vans : OmniTrader , trade off charts, great idea, terrible performance
[10:03 am] sonorant : vans, I got approved for accounts at all 3 places in the last 7 days -- trade station, IB, and Lightspeed. Am testing them out one by one. So far I've mostly been on Trade Station. Some things I like, some things I don't. We'll see.
[10:05 am] sonorant : Rusty, how did you know TZOO was oversold? What indices did you look at?
[10:07 am] sonorant : My sentiments exactly
[10:07 am] vans : Thanks sonorant, I will be checking into them also. Is hard enough to trade without also fighting platform.
[10:08 am] joeytsa : vans...i like lightspeed, especially coming over from schwab sse..lightspeed charting isn't the greatest though
[10:08 am] sonorant : Leo, are you still there? You said early early today that you were having issues with Ninja Trader. What kinds of issues?
[10:09 am] sonorant : Joey, are you using the hot key feature on Lightspeed?
[10:10 am] joeytsa : no..haven't dove too deep into things yet.
[10:11 am] joeytsa : just clicking on buy/sell
[10:11 am] sonorant : But you are still doing great trades....
[10:12 am] Kris : you using demo version of LS for testing sonorant?
[10:12 am] sonorant : I played with the Lightspeed buy/sell button a little last week at the very end of the day -- put in some limit orders and some market orders. A few of the market fills seemed really out of line.
[10:13 am] Kris : acts a little bananas at times.
[10:13 am] Kris : that's why your prices are off. Demo version is unstable.
[10:13 am] sonorant : Ah .. good to know. Thanks.
[10:13 am] sonorant : Yes Kris, demo version
[10:14 am] Kris : show you have to streamline it, make it sing.
[10:14 am] Kris : We will also be going over advanced customization of lightspeed in the upcoming webinar series.
[10:15 am] joeytsa : sonorant...most times i am unhappy with a fill is usually because of me being too slow etc[10:15 am] joeytsa : sounds great Kris
[10:15 am] Kris : yes, we'll be going over most of the other platforms as well.
[10:15 am] sonorant : Sounds good. Will you be doing the same for any other platforms?
[10:16 am] kisa : When is the webinar?
[10:16 am] Kris : September 23rd, 24th and 25th
[10:16 am] Kris : we'll be posting a registration page this weekend.
[10:16 am] sonorant : Excellent -- so which ever one I choose I'll learn to use it better!
[10:17 am] kisa : nice
[10:17 am] rosmag : are the webinars live only or can they be reviewed at later date
[10:17 am] sonorant : Is it just about trading platforms?
[10:18 am] joeytsa : it takes a little time to get used to each platform
[10:18 am] Kris : yes, they will be recorded and available for review online at any time.
[10:18 am] rosmag : looking forward to them..tks!
[10:21 am] Kris : I have 6
[10:21 am] lightning : watching ASIA for a possible long
[10:21 am] sonorant : Speaking of monitors, how many monitors are you monitoring, Kris?
[10:21 am] tennisball : kris, looking forward to studying the upcoming webinars. thanks
[10:22 am] Kris : 3 charts per monitor
[10:22 am] sonorant : How many charts per monitor?
[10:22 am] sonorant : Okay, thanks. 18 charts. Impressive.
[10:23 am] qwert : what size monitors kris[10:27 am] Kris : not all monitors have charts sonorant
[10:27 am] ltacher : is DE good buy here ?
[10:27 am] ronfrac : Kris: Will you be doing Think-or-swim?
[10:27 am] sonorant : Okay, so how many charts?
[10:28 am] jjammerp : and 30 "ot" six
[10:28 am] Kris : I have 4 22's and 2 27's.
[10:28 am] qwert : thanks k
[10:28 am] storage : i have two lap tops and a pickup
[10:29 am] rd : don't forget the hound dog
[10:29 am] rusty : sonorant... TZOO was mostly on gut...i am a stock stockstalker[10:30 am] Kris : yes ronfrac[10:30 am] rd : got to go kids, good luck to you all
[10:30 am] rusty : I watch for oversold on daily chart.... and then stalk it intraday for a fill
[10:31 am] ronfrac : Kris: Great. I'm having some problems with chart setup and trading from the charts.
[10:31 am] sonorant : Okay, but what tells you it is oversold?
[10:32 am] ronfrac : Are their any buys,sells, punts out there?
[10:32 am] rusty : and volume
[10:32 am] rusty : exactly
[10:32 am] sonorant : Asia starting up, for what its worth
[10:32 am] sonorant : Okay, but what specifically about the price? Relative to what?
[10:33 am] vans : I use the MacD 12, 26 -- and overlay tow STO charts, 10-8-7 and 5-3-3 using a 3 min chart. works pretty well. also histogram. have not figured out a value to using volume yet.
[10:34 am] rusty : TZOO for example had intraday panic type volume around 10:30 that was my first alert to watch it closely
[10:35 am] candelas : thx sonorant for asia out for 1%
[10:35 am] sonorant : Okay, thanks vans and rusty, I will go back and check it out.
[10:35 am] vans : TNA could be ready to drop, though charts not confirm
[10:36 am] candelas : thx Lightning
[10:36 am] sonorant : Oh no, Asia was originally lightening.
[10:37 am] joeytsa : time for lunch, see you all in 30 :)
[10:37 am] rusty : exactly kris[10:37 am] rusty : on stocks that are moving up or down fast, I think volume is still one of the best indicators to indicate when the trend is going to change
[10:38 am] rusty : and similarly at lows on oversold stocks
[10:38 am] rusty : if you look at hi flying stocks...there biggest volume is often at the high
[10:38 am] rusty : its no coincidence
[10:38 am] sonorant : Will go back and study charts -- thanks guys!
[10:39 am] Kris : I use very few studies ronfrac[10:39 am] ronfrac : Kris: Do you put all those studies on one chart or do you use 2 charts?
[10:39 am] rusty : even on the SP500
[10:39 am] rusty : keep us honest...look at any momentum type chart and you will see this pattern over and over again
[10:40 am] rusty : look at the volume the other day at the low...when TSA was telling us to buy
[10:40 am] vans : OK,
[10:43 am] qwert : cbg getting close
[10:43 am] qwert : needs volume
[10:45 am] ronfrac : KRIS: I just stARTED DAY TRADING ABOUT 3 WEEKS AGO. i USE stoc,macd HISTOGRAM,VOLUME/AVG AND BOLLINGER BANDS PLUS 5 S. ma/15/smA.
[10:46 am] Kris : for all the new strategies we'll be teaching.
[10:46 am] Kris : that's not bad. I've seen worse ronfrac. You should see gecko's charts.
[10:46 am] Kris : We're gonna spend an entire session on scanning.
[10:46 am] ronfrac : My biggest problem is finding stock during the day. Still working on scanning techniques
[10:47 am] Kris : what are you using BB for?
[10:47 am] ronfrac : Can't wait. I'm patient on learning but somewhat impatient when day trading.
[10:47 am] sonorant : Okay, I went back and looked at the volume on the TZOO chart -- the increase was really obvious at the bottom on the 5 minute chart.
[10:51 am] ronfrac : I am testing Boll Bands on day trading charts. It's amazing how accurate they are. Most stocks turn up or down when they hit the upper or lower bands. When you pick a buy or short and broadcast it many times I don't trade it because the price is very near the band and doesn't leave enough room for a profit. This seems to keep me out of trouble.
[10:51 am] rusty : become an "expert" on their trading patterns
[10:51 am] rusty : ron...find a couple of stocks you know something about...companies you like dislike or whatever.... and then keep their chart up all the time
[10:52 am] Kris : sounds good
[10:52 am] rusty : Bollinger bands by definition are very accurate...but also keep an eye on the width of the bands
[10:53 am] Kris : I can see that, especially if you're slow and you can't get the price I'm getting you're usually too far behind. I'm probably selling my shares to you.
[10:54 am] gecko : dji[10:54 am] gecko : if there is anything obvious today its 10.30
[10:54 am] gecko : peak dji 10.29
[10:54 am] gecko : time
[10:54 am] gecko : yoku[10:54 am] gecko : yoku long open reverse 10.30
[10:54 am] Kris : $10.30?
[10:54 am] Kris : on which stock?
[10:54 am] ronfrac : Rusty; right. The width of the band indicates the possible length of mood AND also the volatility. If bands are narrowing the volatility is decreasing. Opposite for widening bands. Again, gives possible trading range.
[10:55 am] gecko : would be like a 35 percenter[10:59 am] ronfrac : Rusty HPQ now at upper boll band and bands are widening. It can crawl up the band when this happens. but, if it hits the band 1,2,3 times and doesn't go up check for 5 SMA for downturn. Then run or short. Potential short profit is 30.98, now 32.17.
[11:00 am] sonorant : Rusty, I like the idea of tracking a couple of stocks. I am going to try that.
[11:01 am] sonorant : And ronfrac, I may set up some Bollinger Bands
[11:01 am] sonorant : Thanks guys for the help.
[11:02 am] Brent : we used Ballinger Bands on the farm with the bull calves
[11:02 am] ronfrac : Rusty: The slope of the upper band is important when compared to the volume. As you can see, it is almost becoming parabolic so you ride the horse if STOC and %R, MACD stay positive
[11:03 am] rusty : poor calves
[11:04 am] Brent : lol[11:04 am] Brent : you typed boll
[11:04 am] ronfrac : That's BOLL not BALL. My biggest problem is I went to school when real men didn't take typing. We went to Home ECon. because that's where the girsl were. i type with 2 fingers.
[11:05 am] Brent : I was just messing around
[11:05 am] gecko : food for thought http://www.stockmarketcats.com/f46/market-rev ersal-times-4202.html
[11:05 am] Kris : I miss Home Ec.
[11:05 am] Kris : I miss Home Ec. Back when women used to cook.
[11:05 am] ronfrac : Brent: I know. Lil humor needed in this business.
[11:06 am] eyes-inthenow : you just have to train here
[11:07 am] rusty : http://www.finviz.com a good site to use for scanning
[11:08 am] gecko : today was 10.30
[11:08 am] gecko : you could be right either way there are key times to look for reversals
[11:08 am] rusty : http://finviz.com/bubbles/bubbles.ashx
[11:08 am] rusty : this one of my favorite charts just to get an idea of what's happening int he market with one look
[11:09 am] gecko : if it was same thing everyday it nobody would work
[11:09 am] gecko : yoku at double resist on the 5m
[11:09 am] ronfrac : I shorted it at 31.23
[11:09 am] ronfrac : Rusty: HP ready to roll over
[11:10 am] gecko : spikeup[11:10 am] Kris : they buy 1 order?
[11:10 am] vans : Big brokers use computers to auto buy at .42 cent intervals, based on time, usually 45 min to 1 hr[11:11 am] ronfrac : CLX now shooting up and bears watching
[11:12 am] ronfrac : Kris: Do you use market or limit orders?
[11:12 am] vans : thousands, they control the market. Ever noticed how spy has almost perfect .42 channels, and fall on lines at perfect time intervals throughout the day. The literally control the market. Markets are just a big game to make them money
[11:13 am] vans : it is up to them which way it goes
[11:13 am] vans : we are at a line now
[11:14 am] candelas : hod vrx[11:14 am] gecko : kris when u back test can u back test a strategy for a specific time interval
[11:15 am] gecko : so its a matter of programming?
[11:15 am] gecko : thx
[11:15 am] vans : sto says their computers will probably sell, but they are in the uptick part of their cycle until 12:30
[11:17 am] vans : Everything based on .42 cents, up or down. Though huge volume from us could effect the number. In huge volatility, they double it to .84
[11:18 am] Kris : if you want to email me gecko I can put you in touch with a very good programmer.
[11:18 am] vans : draw your .42 cent lines for today's activity and it falls perfect.
[11:19 am] candelas : hod VRX
[11:19 am] vans : start with the 8:30 high on spy
[11:19 am] vans : this is top secret, and if word gets out, they will change ther=ir setting, so keep it quiet
[11:20 am] Kris : just glad you were able to escape with this information alive vans
[11:20 am] ltacher : http://twitpic.com/67l430/full
[11:20 am] rusty : rofl[11:20 am] vans : Hey , I type slow cause they took an arm.
[11:20 am] vans : probably safe to stay long until 12:30
[11:21 am] joeytsa : haha...now i am afraid to answer the doorbell
[11:21 am] Kris : that's why I trade from a missile silo
[11:21 am] vans : Hey, just send me some of the profits so I can make ny next Balloon payment.
[11:22 am] rusty : never say never
[11:22 am] vans : Staying long TNA yesterday killed me. Never swing again.
[11:23 am] joeytsa : just when i thought i knew stuff...now i have to figure out where to figure teh .42 from
[11:23 am] rusty : just saying
[11:23 am] vans : I know, My wife wants to kill me for selling, SHe love MK, He is God
[11:24 am] Brent : that's his breakeven point
[11:24 am] Kris : I think it could get to $100
[11:24 am] Kris : lol[11:24 am] Kris : lol[11:24 am] Kris : why so low?
[11:24 am] rusty : Analyst defending AMRN
[11:24 am] rusty : lol[11:24 am] rusty : lol good point
[11:24 am] rusty : maintains $35 price target
[11:24 am] vans : French accent. OK I am going to work now, quiet
[11:24 am] vans : God Like, escuse me.
[11:25 am] Kris : he'll be selling it at 34.42
[11:27 am] joeytsa : as soon as that analyst shows me that he just bought 5000 shares, then maybe i will listen to him
[11:31 am] rusty : amen joey
[11:32 am] joeytsa : it's such a game, their job isn't to tell the truth, it's to get people to like the stock
[11:33 am] joeytsa : the way to prove to me that you like the stock is to put a ton of money down
[11:37 am] topdogrex : Kris do you have time to explain the Limits
[11:37 am] topdogrex : otherwise another time
[11:38 am] ltacher : guys if you need any news feed let share this with you, http://www.inewsroom.net/live.html
[11:47 am] candelas : stopped vrx short plus .42
[11:49 am] candelas : lod sina[11:54 am] joeytsa : question : SINA having a large down day leading up to earnings...anyone thinking a bad outlook?
[11:57 am] vans : it bounced off the line twice now,
[11:58 am] joeytsa : vans...do you have .42 lines drawn, and where do you place your starting point?
[11:59 am] ltacher : Mitch I am watching TZA ,when you get a chance can i get your opinion .Thanks
[12:01 pm] sonorant : So, the idea is that there is an algorithm in the program that determines which way they go?
[12:01 pm] vans : wish I knew if Computers were going to buy or sell
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : possible late day buying on SINA?
[12:02 pm] sonorant : and does this apply to the buying and selling of all stocks, or specifically the SPY?
[12:03 pm] vans : only know the SPY system, sorry. so stocks in SPY,
[12:04 pm] sonorant : but you think the stocks, and not the index itself?
[12:04 pm] sonorant : sorry ETF itself
[12:05 pm] ltacher : Got at good price last week loving it
[12:05 pm] ltacher : I am still holding TNA
[12:05 pm] vans : I use it to play TNA for max gains min investment
[12:07 pm] vans : You love watching your stock sink? You are strong
[12:12 pm] ltacher : vans I have stop loss @ 42.96 and if it does I am still walking away with $ 1500 laveraging my Risk
[12:13 pm] ltacher : trading way above 42 ..
[12:13 pm] vans : How, puts
[12:14 pm] vans : I need to think smarter. learn how to cover both directions. maybe not possible, selling calls sucks
[12:17 pm] vans : like maybe TNA with $20 upside potential, And buy twice a many put and still have 50% upside potential and even if sink, and still own stock at good price.
[12:19 pm] ltacher : vans sound like a good plan you win both way love it ..TNA is very Volatile Stock ..I am not sure ..[12:19 pm] vans : or own TNA and Buy TZA on the dips to break almost even.
[12:19 pm] vans : sounds good if could call them correctly
[12:20 pm] ltacher : oh yeah I have ask mitch on TZA ..leverage my risk and hedge against it
[12:23 pm] ltacher : Gold keep going up Venezuela taking all gold out the central banks i[12:23 pm] vans : I guess commuters are on a budget today
[12:25 pm] gecko : yoku at sma 200 1m
[12:25 pm] ltacher : I know vans..
[12:26 pm] ltacher : ok back to trading ..
[12:28 pm] vans : don't like TNA rounding, thought it would go
[12:29 pm] lisas : I agree vans, not seeing a closing rally building yet, may not happen today.
[12:30 pm] rusty : AMRN radar
[12:53 pm] vans : I am guessing with so many attempts to break 46 and failing, I will stay out of TNA tonight. Wish I knew
[12:54 pm] vans : CF had a great week, my get an option
[12:54 pm] vans : may
[12:56 pm] eyes-inthenow : good night Everyone see you tomorrow
[12:57 pm] candelas : take care eyes. Im out as well, take care
[12:57 pm] gecko : whoever put up newsroom thanks
[12:57 pm] lightning : Thanks TSA and everyone. See you tomorrow.
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