Chat Highlights From 08/14/2012

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[06:11 am] Ed : KORS should have some nice action today
[06:17 am] Ed : potential plays  COH 65.40 long/ short 55.40  ( AIG long 33.50/ short 32.90)  (ESV 56.60 long/ short 55.70)  (SBUX 46.50 long/ short 45.80)  on the long/short play make sure it has strong vol. Advanced traders can play prior to these prices
[06:20 am] Ed : potential plays  COH 56.40 long/ short  55.40  ( AIG long 33.50/ short 32.90)  (ESV 56.60 long/ short 55.70)  (SBUX 46.50 long/ short 45.80)  on the long/short play make sure it has strong vol. Advanced traders can play prior to these prices
[06:26 am] Ed : other plays  FSLR short 19.80 long 21.10 (WLT short 36.70 long 37.80) (CNQ short29.90  long 30.60) (X short 22.30 long 23.10) must have strong vol on breakout or breakout. Advanced traders can play prior to these prices
[06:27 am] Ed : also monitor KORS for multiple trades
[06:28 am] Ed : Mitch may message me ideas like he did yesterday if I fire out ideas make sure ur looking at chart and see if it fits ur style long/short, if not pass. There will be more quality ideas coming
[06:30 am] Ed : let price come back
[06:30 am] Ed : EBAY is breakout dont chase
[06:31 am] Ed : monitoring KORS for long play
[06:32 am] Ed : LNKD also breakout
[06:34 am] Ed : it was quick hope u were able to reduce long on KORS
[06:35 am] Ed : see if 105 area holds
[06:35 am] Ed : monitor LNKD on this  pullback
[06:36 am] Ed : NCR
[06:37 am] Ed : KORS  MT KMT  NSM
[06:38 am] Ed : missed the NFLX breakout
[06:39 am] Ed : NCR getting more interesting
[06:39 am] Ed : GDI   EL  CVLT  ABMD  MCRS
[06:40 am] Ed : nice bounce in NCR
[06:41 am] Ed : monitor VELT on this pullback for potential long no hurry [06:42 am] Ed : if u took NCTR long would reduce
[06:42 am] Ed : if u took LNKD long would reduce
[06:43 am] Ed : AMZN wants higher
[06:44 am] Ed : see if we can get pullback that holds 235.9ish
[06:45 am] Ed : CIE monitrong for short
[06:45 am] Ed : if u took NCR would reduce more
[06:46 am] Ed : on CIE a move inot 22.8ish area would be optima;
[06:47 am] Ed : EL monitor in the 60 area been acting as resistance
[06:47 am] Ed : u can always get signal b4 then so be flexible
[06:49 am] Ed : monitoring TFM for short
[06:49 am] Ed : no vol on this move on KORS so far
[06:50 am] Ed : monitor this pullback in AMZN see if 234.71area holds
[06:50 am] Ed : let TFM setup
[06:51 am] Ed : if u took NSM short would cover
[06:51 am] Ed : KORS making another attempt but no vol.
[06:52 am] Ed : monitroing VRTX for short
[06:53 am] Mitch K: watching NCR for short here
[06:53 am] Ed : let it setup
[06:54 am] Ed : SPY trading near lod
[06:56 am] Ed : if u took VRTX short would cover some here
[06:58 am] Ed : moniotoring CLF no hurry
[07:02 am] Ed : CLF needs more selling
[07:02 am] Ed : monitoring HNZ for potential short would like move into 56 area
[07:07 am] Ed : if u took WLT  would cover some here
[07:11 am] Ed : montirong MAKO for short
[07:14 am] Ed : monitoring RHT for bounce
[07:19 am] Ed : monitor TRIP in the 33.52 area, been weak since yesterday
[07:21 am] Ed : would like tad more
[07:21 am] Ed : finnally getting more selling in CLF
[07:22 am] Ed : would like to see successive strong selling bars
[07:23 am] Ed : dont want 1 selling bar then rest then resumption of downtrend
[07:26 am] Ed : if market sells off heavy monitor TRIP for break of lod on strong vol for short
[07:32 am] Ed : moniotor NSM for 2n helping short
[07:34 am] Ed : see if we get lower high on NSM
[07:38 am] Ed : if u took HNZ short would cover some here
[07:52 am] Ed : if u took AIG long over 33.50 would reduce
[07:54 am] Mitch K: for your viewing pleasure.  will be back in action tomorrow with regular computers.  http://www.screencast.com/t/bIdb8cfS
[07:5 7 am] Mitch K: he kept coming and grabbing the good quality fish so i ended up fishing for spawners just for him
[08:06 am] Ed : not much money at this level in COF short
[08:20 am] Ed : if u took COH short beaking 55.40 would cover
[08:51 am] Ed : would like move closer to 54
[08:51 am] Ed : wathcing VRTX for short thx qwert
[09:17 am] Ed : my comments at 09:03 am] Ed : would be more patient on VRTX short, breaking out on 2 day and 15 day
[09:03 am] Ed : or really really fast fast trigger
[09:03 am] Ed : would be more patient on VRTX short, breaking out on 2 day and 15 day
[09:05 am] Ed : so this am I knew how it closed based on my chart setup but will draw what was looking at
[09:05 am] Ed : right quick this is  1min 2day chart of FSLR
[09:06 am] Ed : I did not want to short 20 so I used .20 from 20 area for short setup as to stay away from fakeout
[09:09 am] Ed : so for long play on FSLR was looking for 21.10
[09:10 am] Ed : Its just one technique to play outside of ranges. But as advanced traders we play inside/outside the ranges
[09:12 am] Ed : this is what I saw on VRTX although I got the short but was quick
[09:13 am] Ed : thats the 1min 2day
[09:14 am] Ed : when I glanced at 15min chart thats when I alerted u guys on what i saw
[09:15 am] Ed : nice breakout but was not on my radar screen
[09:16 am] Ed : patience for the trade
[09:16 am] Ed : Dar she goes
[09:18 am] Ed : Ed's entry would be some vhere is this area if i had shorted
[09:19 am] Ed : 54.14 would have been good also eyes as u had nice break of trend
[09:24 am] Ed : if u were able to get VRTX short would cover nice call per the QWERT  ALERT
[09:44 am] Ed : Kors having issues all day with 49area
[09:59 am] Ed : not enough money at this level
[09:59 am] Ed : VMED has potential resistance in 27.80 area but I would like a move into 28 to consider short
[10:20 am] Ed : SPY nearing lod
[10:36 am] Ed : monitoring VSI would like more selling
[10:53 am] Ed : vol still thin on VSI
[11:04 am] Ed : NFLX on move
[11:06 am] Ed : just menitoning not saying buy
[11:06 am] Ed : NFLX raised to a buy
[11:06 am] Ed : see how NFLX reacts to 63.5ish area if gets that far
[11:09 am] Ed : yea no hurry they may try one last push
[11:10 am] Ed : there it goes
[11:11 am] Ed : dont forget KORS also
[11:16 am] Ed : NFLX getting close to 63.58 area
[11:17 am] Ed : no rush see how stock reacts to that aea
[11:17 am] Ed : placing stop last 1/4 KORS long at breakeven
[11:17 am] Ed : on KORs im reducing 3/4 long
[11:18 am] Ed : still  no signal for short on NFLX
[11:33 am] Ed : comment on NFLX [11:21 am] Ed : see if can get one last bounce near hod forming lowere high
[11:21 am] Ed : see if can get one last bounce near hod forming lowere high
[11:49 am] Ed : thx rusty for AMCX idea
[11:49 am] Ed : monitroing AMCX for potential bounce to take long
[12:13 pm] Ed : SPY new lod
[12:13 pm] Ed : SPY trading near lod
[12:33 pm] Ed : more selling in SPY
[01:00 pm] Ed : have a great evening

[05:58 am] Ed : I got the pop but did not play short, I was exhausted
[05:58 am] doji  : Are you long in KORS?
[05:58 am] Ed : no. I bought right at 8am
[05:58 am] Ed : I sold it at 48.63
[05:59 am] mikewd2 -: nice Ed
[05:59 am] Ed : squeezed a point
[05:59 am] doji  : Ed, does TS allow you to place Market Stop losses in pre-market? TOS doesn't
[05:59 am] doji  : only limit
[06:00 am] Ed : right only limit pre and post
[06:00 am] doji  : thanks
[06:02 am] Ed : it had nice short KORS but did not take was studying
[06:03 am] khall  : good morning
[06:05 am] Ed : be really nice a move to 45ish area on KORS would set up nice potenital long. Has some support in that area
[06:06 am] mikewd2 -: nice head and shoulders
[06:06 am] Ed : twue
[06:07 am] doji  : if it drops and hold above 45, that will be a nce setup for a long
[06:08 am] Ed : even has some support 45.6ish
[06:09 am] Ed : should get a break one way or other on EXH
[06:12 am] doji  : Net neraly trippled
[06:12 am] doji  : KORS
[06:13 am] Ed : nice break of downtrend
[06:14 am] Ed : for quick cheese, did not play though
[06:18 am] mikewd2 -: COH 65.40?
[06:18 am] Ed : thx mike meant 55.40
[06:18 am] mikewd2 -: how about 56.40
 [06:20 am] Ed : thx mike
[06:20 am] Ed : time for vacation when numbers run together
[06:21 am] doji  : Thnks Ed!
[06:23 am] Ed : other plays  FSLR short 19.80 long 21.10 (WLT short 36.70 long 37.80) (CNQ short29.90  long 30.60) (X short 22.30 long 23.10) must have strong vol on breakout or breakout. Advanced traders can play prior to these prices
[06:23 am] gregs  : thank you ed
[06:24 am] eyes  : Ed how do i tighten the range on a chart
[06:24 am] eyes  : horizontly
[06:25 am] Ed : Mitch may message me ideas like he did yesterday if I fire out ideas make sure ur looking at chart and see if it fits ur style long/short, if not pass. There will be more quality ideas coming
[06:25 am] mikewd2 -: Mitch still working on his trailer?
[06:25 am] khall  : thanks Ed - I liked the way you handled that yestereday
[06:26 am] Ed : appreciate it khall
[06:26 am] mikewd2 -: watching MCP today
[06:27 am] Ed : can someone else help eyes with chart question
[06:27 am] doji  : Thanks Ed.
[06:27 am] gregs  : eyes, are you using ninja?
[06:27 am] eyes  : on ts
[06:27 am] Ed : tradestation
[06:27 am] doji  : I hope one day I'll have enough time to review my charts well in advnaced before the market opens
[06:28 am] doji  : I just put all the alarms
[06:28 am] mikewd2 -: |<>| try that button eyes
[06:28 am] victor51  : gm all, I will be here for next hour
[06:28 am] mikewd2 -: to expand time
[06:29 am] skydiver  : gm all
[06:29 am] doji  : Time to Rock!
[06:30 am] khall  : watching HD
[06:32 am] mikewd2 -: NUS
[06:33 am] mikewd2 -: IOC
[06:34 am] doji  : LNKD S
[06:35 am] doji  : 106.1
[06:35 am] doji  : all out
[06:35 am] mikewd2 -: covering half NUS
[06:36 am] mikewd2 -: trailing last half
[06:36 am] doji  : all out COH short
[06:37 am] mikewd2 -: all out NUS short
[06:39 am] doji  : AAPL nice move
[06:39 am] doji  : NFLX
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: in/out NCR long - thanks Ed
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: NCR has more downside i think
[06:42 am] doji  : Oil stocks holding
[06:43 am] mikewd2 -: CJES L 19.3, daytrade
[06:46 am] doji  : Only one trade in LNKD and NFLX... hummm
[06:47 am] mikewd2 -: got out NCR way to early!!!
[06:47 am] doji  : APPL in ist quest to 644
[06:51 am] skydiver  : lost connection -- but CF dropping nicely :)
[06:52 am] doji  : KORS consolidating?
[06:53 am] skydiver  : covered 3/4 CF S
[06:54 am] doji  : Watching FSLR
[06:55 am] doji  : Mike stop pumping CJEs... it's the only stock moving up... hahahah
[06:55 am] mikewd2 -: MCP
[06:55 am] doji  : MCP
[06:55 am] skydiver  : all out of CF S
[06:56 am] qwert  : VELT coming down
[06:57 am] skydiver  : argh - had EL on screen and missed the short - need coffee!
[07:00 am] doji  : APPL stromg today
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: CLF L 42.10
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: CLF looking ugly on daily
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: MCP nearing $12.00
[07:02 am] skydiver  : thnx Ed on CLF
[07:03 am] doji  : MCP weaakkk
[07:03 am] mikewd2 -: MCP L 12.00
[07:03 am] doji  : same as FB
[07:03 am] skydiver  : watching CF for another possible short - small one
[07:03 am] doji  : MCP S
[07:03 am] doji  : 12.0
[07:04 am] doji  : tight stop
[07:04 am] mikewd2 -: one of us should win doji
[07:04 am] mikewd2 -: haha
[07:04 am] doji  : at b/e now
[07:04 am] doji  : Ouch sorry Mike, didn't see your post
[07:04 am] doji  : KCG
[07:06 am] mikewd2 -: NUS still weak
[07:06 am] mikewd2 -: closed my short too early
[07:06 am] skydiver  : monitoring CRM
[07:08 am] rusty  : NUS radar
[07:09 am] victor51  : Ed, nice call NCR at 6.38 am. You can answer me latter on. I entered L 6:42 but how do we tell that second bar was not a fake for long. I will wait
[07:10 am] victor51  : will cyou ...
[07:11 am] eyes  : what was your stop Victor
[07:13 am] victor51  : eyes, 23.00 and close
[07:13 am] Ed : market seems sluggish
[07:14 am] khall  : yes, like it needs a shot of espresso
[07:15 am] mikewd2 -: out CJES 19.58
[07:15 am] skydiver  : nice mike
[07:15 am] mikewd2 -: TSO dropping, still short from yesterday
[07:16 am] rusty  : '
[07:16 am] doji  : Waht was your entry in TSO Mike?
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: 38.80 was last, so just getting back to money
[07:17 am] mikewd2 -: was going to double down this morning, but got sidetracked
[07:18 am] mikewd2 -: don't like the refineries with this spread on wti, brent
[07:18 am] doji  : Why?
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: i read something that said they do much better when spread is closer
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: NUS still weak
[07:20 am] jolliffboy  : Ed: GRPN took a big hit with downgrades. Do you have a wild guess as to bottom??
[07:21 am] mikewd2 -: CLF
[07:22 am] skydiver  : does tad - $1.00 more or ??? :)
[07:22 am] skydiver  : thnx Ed
[07:22 am] rusty  : PPHM lod come to papa
[07:23 am] ben4givn  : Ed, I notice the Commodity Channel index on all charts.  Do you get any value from that?
[07:23 am] skydiver  : gotcha Ed -thnx
[07:23 am] mikewd2 -: come to papa TSO
[07:23 am] eyes  : for s CLF
[07:23 am] Ed : for long play
[07:23 am] mikewd2 -: to go long on CLF
[07:23 am] skydiver  : CF dropping again --
[07:24 am] Ed : no just took it off ben4given
[07:24 am] ben4givn  : Thx
[07:24 am] doji  : I am closing my short in MCP here; don't like the action after 25 minutes
[07:24 am] doji  : It's all yours Mike
[07:24 am] skydiver  : love CF past couple of days
[07:24 am] Ed : ur a patient man mike
[07:25 am] rusty  : covered PPHM from am gap + .45
[07:25 am] rusty  : come to papa TSO
[07:27 am] skydiver  : covering CF S
[07:27 am] skydiver  : watching CRM
[07:28 am] skydiver  : FFIV - monitoring
[07:29 am] qwert  : HNZ turning over
[07:30 am] gregs  : KORS near lod
[07:30 am] skydiver  : thnx qwert
[07:30 am] doji  : Watching FSLR
[07:31 am] rusty  : covered PPHM from yesterday +.40
[07:32 am] mh  : Great trade rusty should have joined you almost did
[07:33 am] rusty  : it's gonna go lower but they have a presentation tomorrow, so hopefully a bounce somewhere
[07:33 am] mh  : pig get ----------!!!!!!
[07:33 am] mh  : good % win
[07:34 am] doji  : More selling in SPY
[07:35 am] doji  : FSLR
[07:38 am] rusty  : CVLT radar
[07:39 am] skydiver  : covered 1/2 HNZ S 55.63
[07:43 am] skydiver  : humm - is the paint dry yet?
[07:45 am] skydiver  : KORS has come up a bit
[07:46 am] rusty  : PPHM bounce
[07:50 am] qwert  : monitoring SHLD
[07:50 am] rusty  : PPHM on record volume pace today
[07:51 am] khall  : SHLD is at yesterday's high qwert - good place to monitor :-)
[07:52 am] qwert  : :)
[07:55 am] cowboyh  : sounds good mitch
[07:55 am] khall  : nice video!
[07:56 am] skydiver  : Bear caught a nice fish - but how's the camera?
[07:57 am] qwert  : hahaha
[07:57 am] skydiver  : nice
[07:57 am] serge  : cool...salmon cam:)
[07:58 am] qwert  : Forgot no shares shld for short on lightspeed
[07:59 am] khall  : bummer
[07:59 am] skydiver  : yeah qwert -- I've tried in the past with Lightspeed on SHLD for shorts - but none
[07:59 am] qwert  : did you get it khall
[07:59 am] khall  : no, I'm already up to my limit in number of trades at one time.  I'm just watching
[08:00 am] qwert  : nice what is your number
[08:00 am] khall  : five
[08:00 am] khall  : and I'm up, so I'm trying to not perform any stupid trader tricks, like losing money
[08:00 am] qwert  : hard for me to do over 5 as well
[08:01 am] skydiver  : ok - my time's up -- see you all tomorrow morning -
[08:01 am] qwert  : hahaha
[08:01 am] khall  : bye sky!
[08:01 am] qwert  : cya sky
[08:01 am] skydiver  : :)
[08:01 am] Ed : c ya sky
[08:01 am] khall  : FSLR dropping
[08:04 am] rusty  : added to PPHM short
[08:12 am] qwert  : Monitoring PHM
[08:13 am] rusty  : ASTI radar
[08:17 am] eyes  : for S QWERT
[08:17 am] pirate  : nice bear kisses Mitch....lol
[08:18 am] qwert  : wanted to see a big push higher first eyes into resistance
[08:18 am] rusty  : added to TSO short
[08:20 am] qwert  : ESV approaching 55.70
[08:21 am] eyes  : I had a lert but missed it
[08:26 am] mh  : TSO chart looks like a bullshort ?
[08:29 am] doji  : At this pace APPL will break 644 today
[08:30 am] doji  : I shouldn't have sold my long at 618
[08:30 am] rusty  : yes i am treating TSO sorta like a bullshort
[08:31 am] rusty  : ss into pops
[08:31 am] mikewd2 -: me too
[08:32 am] qwert  : KORS at the low end of todays range again
[08:32 am] mikewd2 -: CLF coming back a bit
[08:35 am] eyes  : missed FSLR broke 19.80
[08:35 am] Ed : i missed FSLR also
[08:36 am] rusty  : TLT lod
[08:37 am] jsn13  : Ed, where would be the best place to short FSLR? is it at 11.01 est bar?
[08:38 am] mh  : my TSO stop is 40.20 just above piviot
[08:38 am] Ed : i gave trigger prices earlier
[08:39 am] rusty  : my name is Ed Brown, ask me again and I will knock you down
[08:39 am] Ed : lol
[08:39 am] Ed : was looking for break of 19.80 jsn
[08:40 am] doji  : LNKD
[08:40 am] khall  : CRM has been consolidating for a while now
[08:44 am] jsn13  : sorry ed, my adobe flash crashed and had to reload so lost the calls from early am....where did u get that 19.80?
[08:44 am] eyes  : Ed would you S CRM below 102.90
[08:44 am] Ed : from trade mapping based on 15min chart
[08:44 am] eyes  : yes
[08:45 am] Ed : which stock eyes?
[08:45 am] eyes  : crm
[08:46 am] khall  : eyes, do you mean $142.90?
[08:46 am] eyes  : sorry LNKD
[08:48 am] Ed : normally I would but LNKD has too many confluences of ma's underneath down to 101 area
[08:49 am] eyes  : OK thank I see that now
[08:49 am] qwert  : MAKO broke out
[08:49 am] jsn13  : thanks ed....could u show us how u map FSLR on 15 min chart?
[08:50 am] qwert  : VRTX
[08:54 am] eyes  : Ed do you Ever Short when a Green candle is showing weakinss like on VRTX 11.52
[08:54 am] Ed : its more advance but yes, I have to see buyers drop off using time and sales
[08:55 am] eyes  : ok thankyou
[08:56 am] rusty  : NOW radar
[08:57 am] Ed : I do it sometimes but would prefer that one  waits for signal
[09:03 am] mikewd2 -: thanks Ed
[09:04 am] rusty  : VRTX radar
[09:07 am] jsn13  : ok understand ed....
[09:09 am] Ed : so u pick out about 3 to 6 potential longs and 3 to 6 potential short. U map out the long/short for both sides This helps u to stay flexible
[09:10 am] rusty  : PPHM coming to papa again
[09:11 am] Ed : Papa Rsuty
[09:11 am] jsn13  : so ed, u want obvious break of lod/hod to enter to prevent fake breakouts right?
[09:12 am] jsn13  : ok i get it....
[09:12 am] Ed : right and entry is key also. like on FSLR not shorting 20 or 19.95
[09:13 am] jsn13  : i shorted at 19.92 at 11.01 bar...out BE when it did not break down fast.....
[09:16 am] jsn13  : did u short VRTX again? where was ur entry?
[09:16 am] Ed : I wish was showing charts
[09:17 am] jsn13  : ok if u take it wherw would the entry be?
[09:18 am] eyes  : I had a or der to s 100 did nt get filled 54.14
[09:19 am] rusty  : VRTX coming to papa
[09:19 am] jsn13  : u mean when it break the tight range with volume?
[09:19 am] Ed : my entry would be where i place
[09:20 am] Ed : the <
[09:20 am] Ed : u could use that but I watch action of price
[09:20 am] jsn13  : what was ur signal then? i understand but i would like to know reasons...
[09:21 am] Ed : i just told u
[09:21 am] rusty  : Ron Palillo, Arnold Horshack on 'Welcome Back, Kotter,' dies at age 63
[09:21 am] jsn13  : ok thanks...
[09:21 am] jsn13  : watch price actions....
[09:21 am] Ed : look at price and vol,, having issues getting above 54.42
[09:21 am] jsn13  : have alot of rejections to higher prices...
[09:22 am] Ed : right sometime u may be wrong, but with price action u can see it quickly
[09:22 am] Ed : hey mike did u short VRTX at all?
[09:23 am] Ed : sometimes jsn its just that simple
[09:23 am] jsn13  : ok thanks for the advices ed....
[09:24 am] qwert  : hahaha
[09:24 am] Ed : we just tend to complicate things, we here how many people fail in trading and think it has to be more to it than meets the eye
[09:25 am] Ed : mike went on vacation again
[09:25 am] doji  : He is chasing CJES
[09:25 am] Ed : or ignoring me cuz i said he works bankers hours
[09:28 am] Ed : Im woke now
[09:28 am] qwert  : uh oh eds got sound effects
[09:29 am] jsn13  : ed, to be honest, i think there are more subconcious thoughts going on in ur mind....but i wil do more study on this....
[09:30 am] qwert  : KORS on the move again
[09:30 am] Ed : very true jsn, its a constant battle
[09:31 am] doji  : Jason studying Ed's mind?
[09:32 am] eyes  : Ed I am trying to figure out how to show a 2 day chart like yours on trade station
[09:32 am] doji  : That is Ed Man (on the screen)
[09:32 am] doji  : hahaha
[09:32 am] jsn13  : haha learning from pro traders like ed....1st ur have to go into his mind to have his perspectives....
[09:33 am] Ed : thats scary
[09:33 am] doji  : ouchhh
[09:33 am] jsn13  : hahaha....
[09:33 am] doji  : Better you blank your mind Ed or Jason will get all your screts...
[09:33 am] Ed : i sent u a chart from my tradestation jason
[09:34 am] jsn13  : cos for ed, trading is so easy...but im fighting to be in green everyday....
[09:34 am] Ed : i know, he is already the smartest in canada
[09:34 am] Ed : know matter how good u get u will have battles
[09:34 am] eyes  : Dont feel bad me to Jason
[09:34 am] Ed : it cuts both ways
[09:35 am] jsn13  : haha where did u sent to the chart to ed? my email?
[09:36 am] doji  : To you mind
[09:36 am] Ed : i had my first losing day last thursday in over 30 days. So, I had to slap myself a few times after market closed. It really can mess with you. So having success can be just as bad if not handled correctly
[09:36 am] doji  : Didn't you say you can read Ed's mind?
[09:36 am] jsn13  : ooopppss...
[09:36 am] jsn13  : pls dont tell others bout this secret...haha...
[09:37 am] Ed : jsn can read my mind????
[09:37 am] jsn13  : i had 2 consecutive down reds yesterday and so far today,...after 7 green weeks out of last 8 weeks...
[09:37 am] Ed : It trully is so mental when it comes to trading
[09:37 am] Ed : nice jsn
[09:38 am] jsn13  : 1st 2 consecutive red days....
[09:38 am] gregs  : had 4 consecutive down days last week jsn, no fun
[09:38 am] jsn13  : wow ed, u stll have losing days?
[09:38 am] Ed : it will happen
[09:38 am] Ed : of course but few and far between
[09:38 am] doji  : AAPL coming dwon
[09:39 am] doji  : down
[09:39 am] jsn13  : it is as impossible as winning a lottery....
[09:39 am] Ed : no as trader u get proficient u have much better odds
[09:40 am] jsn13  : as in having a down day for u, ed is like winning a lottery....too low the odds....
[09:40 am] Ed : Its like if i trade fewer than 10 trades I know my % will be 80%, if I trade less than 5 is more than likely 100%
[09:40 am] Ed : o got it jsn
[09:40 am] leduc  : Hi I'm a new comer ...
[09:40 am] jsn13  : then juz take 5 trades then ed....increase ur position size....
[09:40 am] jsn13  : problem solved....
[09:41 am] Ed : i do most days 12 or less, then once out of month i trade like yesterday
[09:41 am] jsn13  : welcome to the room leduc....
[09:41 am] Ed : welcome leduc
[09:41 am] qwert  : welcome leduc
[09:41 am] Ed : We have a 2nd moderator Mitch, he has been out last 2 days but will be back full swing 2morrow
[09:41 am] jsn13  : so ed, did u send me a chart? i did not receive anything?
[09:42 am] Ed : no I sent it to eyes, he want my setup for tradestation
[09:42 am] Ed : charts
[09:42 am] leduc  : thanks ED
[09:42 am] jsn13  : ok no prob misread it....
[09:42 am] Ed : is this ur 1st day leduc?
[09:43 am] leduc  : YES i'M ON THINKOR SWIM AT THE SAME TIME
[09:43 am] leduc  : sorry cap lock
[09:43 am] Ed : In summer its kind of slow, however we do get lot of ideas first 45 to 90minutes of trading day
[09:44 am] eyes  : I didnt get it Ed
[09:44 am] leduc  : I see kors doing great
[09:44 am] Ed : I would trade in a simulator account to get feel of room
[09:44 am] Ed : will resend it
[09:44 am] eyes  : thanks
[09:45 am] qwert  : Been going back and forth between 48 and 49 all day
[09:46 am] shark  : thx, Ed - KORS
[09:47 am] leduc  : ED do you think KORS is ready for a up trend?
[09:47 am] Ed : wow I thought it was 2:00pm est
[09:47 am] Ed : its stuck in trading range
[09:47 am] Ed : I would not trade it until it can get out of range
[09:48 am] leduc  : trading range means  sideways ?
[09:48 am] qwert  : i keep waitin for the break of the lod
[09:49 am] Ed : ludec I will x out the current range
[09:50 am] Ed : hope that helps
[09:50 am] leduc  : ooh ok this is you doing this   hahaha
[09:50 am] Ed : yes
[09:50 am] leduc  : Thx
[09:51 am] qwert  : he draws cartoons as well
[09:51 am] shark  : lol
[09:51 am] cowboyh  : Ed magical
[09:51 am] qwert  : hahaha
[09:51 am] rusty  : http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-c harts-groupon-showed-wall-street-right-before -its-stock-tanked-2012-8
[09:52 am] Ed : thx rusty
[09:58 am] shark  : FB testing vwap. nice rally off bottom
[10:01 am] rusty  : TSO hod
[10:03 am] rusty  : added TSO s
[10:07 am] rusty  : Tesoro Corp :  Moodys changes Tesoros rating outlook to negative
[10:09 am] mikewd2 -: good
[10:09 am] khall  : yay for us and our short
[10:09 am] mikewd2 -: just added to my short
[10:10 am] shark  : is that for a swing trade on TSO?
[10:10 am] mikewd2 -: mine is a swing yes
[10:11 am] shark  : gotcha, thx mike ;)
[10:11 am] eyes  : but price is going up whats up with that
[10:11 am] shark  : still lookin' steady up, yeah
[10:11 am] mikewd2 -: opportunity
[10:11 am] Ed : potential topping on daily
[10:12 am] eyes  : ok
[10:12 am] eyes  : for a swing
[10:12 am] Ed : right
[10:13 am] Ed : if does top out shold provide nice intraday plasy 2morrow
[10:13 am] doji  : Is that fot TSO Ed?
[10:13 am] Ed : top out going into 2morrow yes
[10:13 am] qwert  : Curious where would you put your stop for that swing short on TSO
[10:14 am] Ed : U start small
[10:14 am] doji  : above 40 for sure
[10:14 am] mikewd2 -: yeah above 40
[10:14 am] Ed : right thats good area
[10:14 am] qwert  : it might be there by the end of the day
[10:15 am] doji  : Sorry but I missed the discussions
[10:15 am] doji  : are you saying to short it tomorrow?
[10:16 am] Ed : saying once it tops out, will be a good intraday play as well
[10:16 am] doji  : ah ok, for intraday
[10:16 am] qwert  : doji some are shortiing it now
[10:16 am] qwert  : for swing
[10:16 am] Ed : its putting in topping action but sometimes it can put that action in quickly or over some days
[10:17 am] rusty  : when stocks are overbought they can still move up big....start small
[10:17 am] doji  : I saw that qwert
[10:18 am] Ed : agree with rusty
[10:18 am] rusty  : and add as necessary...that being said... stopping out on overbough stocks is often the place you should be adding not stopping
[10:18 am] eyes  : so only 100 shares sound good
[10:18 am] rusty  : but everyone has their comfort level
[10:18 am] rusty  : this technique not for those with limited capital
[10:19 am] rusty  : or acid reflux
[10:19 am] doji  : will start with 20% position size
[10:21 am] doji  : Analyts saying TSO bought BP's infrastructure at reasonable price
[10:22 am] rusty  : so buy it
[10:22 am] rusty  : analysts said to buy FB at 38 for 50 target too
[10:22 am] doji  : I don't have Mike's pockets
[10:22 am] doji  : You got the point Rusty
[10:22 am] doji  : Analyst's opinions are worth nothing
[10:23 am] khall  : and BP's infrastructure likely needs major updating
[10:23 am] Ed : still waiting for QCOM to hit 1000. Im not in it though, just seeing how long it wil take
[10:25 am] doji  : hahah
[10:25 am] doji  : this is from Market Wathc
[10:25 am] doji  : Watch
[10:26 am] doji  : Knight shake off losses
[10:26 am] doji  : Firm's shares jump more than 6% following report suggesting Knight has discovered what triggered a $400-million-plus trading loss earlier this month
[10:26 am] doji  : YEs of course!
[10:26 am] doji  : After they lost almost 80% in value
[10:26 am] doji  : now they are celebrating 6% up
[10:26 am] Ed : fat finger
[10:27 am] qwert  : RHT near lod
[10:28 am] leduc  : lod = ?
[10:28 am] Ed : hod= high of day and lod= low of day
[10:28 am] eyes  : wheres Apple
[10:28 am] leduc  : tks
[10:28 am] Ed : not sure
[10:29 am] qwert  : probably at the track with joey  :))
[10:29 am] Ed : i think he leaves today right?
[10:30 am] qwert  : cant remember
[10:30 am] doji  : Finally TOS solvedd a problem I had for months
[10:31 am] doji  : I was seeing delayed quotes when I use two differents applications
[10:31 am] doji  : I just two one smart guy to realize what the problem was
[10:32 am] doji  : as in life, we just need to see problems froma different angle
[10:32 am] rusty  : doji = Nietzsche?
[10:32 am] doji  : ?
[10:32 am] doji  : German?
[10:33 am] rusty  : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nietzsche
[10:36 am] leduc  : too late to trade VSI
[10:38 am] qwert  : zinc
[10:46 am] qwert  : MNST
[10:52 am] doji  : LNKD
[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: CLF approaching 42.50 resistance
[10:54 am] mikewd2 -: need a push thru
[10:54 am] qwert  : KORS heading for 49 or trying
[10:55 am] mikewd2 -: NUS off lows nicely
[10:55 am] Ed : be nice get some consolidaiton in here and strong vol with break on KORs
[10:57 am] doji  : Nice breakdown in LNKD
[10:58 am] doji  : Holding 50dMA
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: VIX up 8% didn't realize
[11:02 am] mikewd2 -: come on down TSO
[11:03 am] mh  : TSO fall off your cliff
[11:03 am] rusty  : eyes called TSO top
[11:03 am] rusty  : ty eyes
[11:03 am] khall  : way to go eyes
[11:04 am] rusty  : this is typical of how stocks react when very overbought
[11:04 am] doji  : NFLX
[11:04 am] eyes  : S tso.55 out .10 50 shares
[11:04 am] rusty  : they play with your mind also
[11:05 am] dmitry  : ARNA short?
[11:05 am] rusty  : why post after the fact?
[11:05 am] rusty  : doesnt help yourself or others
[11:05 am] rusty  : just saying
[11:06 am] mh  : TCK maybe getting some vol down
[11:07 am] leduc  : look like it's going to be good to short soon   right?
[11:07 am] leduc  : NFLX  I meant
[11:07 am] doji  : ML upgradedd NFLX
[11:08 am] Ed : would be patient on  it
[11:08 am] doji  : still watching Ed
[11:09 am] doji  : FSLR regained 20
[11:11 am] doji  : KORS
[11:12 am] mikewd2 -: NUS continues to slowly move back up off lows
[11:15 am] doji  : KORS breaking down
[11:18 am] mikewd2 -: no shares to short at etrade on NFLX
[11:19 am] mikewd2 -: need TSO to break 39
[11:20 am] rusty  : need?
[11:20 am] rusty  : or want?
[11:20 am] mh  : leap maybe breaking
[11:20 am] rusty  : :-)
[11:20 am] Ed : baby nees some shoes
[11:20 am] rusty  : lol
[11:20 am] Ed : nees=needs
[11:21 am] eyes  : how about now Ed
[11:24 am] doji  : Aggg lost FSLR move above 20
[11:26 am] mh  : TSO broke 39 yes
[11:29 am] Ed : NFLX had consolidated the whole day
[11:29 am] doji  : Watching MNST
[11:30 am] Ed : better yet traded in small range
[11:30 am] doji  : FSLR nice recovery
[11:30 am] eyes  : I S .53 NFLX
[11:31 am] Ed : hey eyes once u did not get breakdown u could have stop for tiny loss like few cents. makes sure it does not take out hod
[11:32 am] Ed : when draw the area
[11:33 am] doji  : Watching PCLN
[11:33 am] Ed : also my comment had mentioned waiting for another move near hod,
[11:33 am] ben4givn  : vvus
[11:34 am] eyes  : ya and then i saw the trend line
[11:34 am] Ed : no sweat, learn from and if it happens again 4 lashes
[11:34 am] eyes  : should i just take the loss
[11:35 am] Ed : will let u make that call, but definitely if takes out hod u want to be out
[11:36 am] Ed : nice doji on PCLN
[11:36 am] Ed : u still in eyes
[11:36 am] doji  : Thanks
[11:37 am] doji  : Nice breakout in MNST also
[11:37 am] Ed : see if can lose that area of .5oish
[11:38 am] Ed : where hotizontal trendline is drawn,
[11:38 am] Ed : on chart in room the blue line
[11:38 am] eyes  : out -.14
[11:39 am] doji  : LNKD breakdown
[11:39 am] Ed : id rather u make that call on getting out, but what u do is u can drawn trendline and then let stock tell u if ur on the right side,
[11:40 am] eyes  : Ya thanks Imade the call to cut it -14.00 dollars o well
[11:40 am] Ed : cool u can recover easily from that kind of loss
[11:41 am] eyes  : Not when it,s half the profits for the day (:
[11:41 am] eyes  : LOL
[11:41 am] Ed : just saying not that u trade to cover losses. U trade whats in front of you
[11:41 am] Ed : or the action of what u see not what u think
[11:43 am] eyes  : Got it thankyou I get to go over the chart after hours so that i can learn what i missed
[11:43 am] rusty  : IOC radar
[11:46 am] rusty  : NYSE volume 275M shares - 30% below its three-month average; advancers lead decliners by 1.2:1
[11:47 am] rusty  : AMCX radar
[11:48 am] eyes  : nine trades today small 5 over BE 4 stoped out +49 I think i am done going to study what mistakes I did
[11:48 am] Ed : c ya eyes, green is good
[11:49 am] khall  : see you tomorrow eyes
[11:49 am] qwert  : bye eyes
[11:50 am] mh  : news on AMCX i dont see any
[11:51 am] leduc  : c ya later ed and tks
[11:51 am] Ed : c ya 2morrow leduc
[11:59 am] mh  : block sale caused drop in AMCX according to benzinga
[12:01 pm] rusty  : ty mh
[12:06 pm] khall  : rusty, do you have a target in mind for TSO?  I was thinking 34.50 -ish .  Think that's too aggressive?
[12:11 pm] rusty  : no target ye
[12:11 pm] rusty  : t
[12:11 pm] rusty  : has to break first
[12:13 pm] rusty  : 8-10% off high is good estimate tho
[12:13 pm] rusty  : for starters
[12:14 pm] khall  : thnx
[12:15 pm] eddy  : ASTI  losing all it gained
[12:16 pm] rusty  : CLNT radar sudden volume
[12:16 pm] rusty  : looks like some daytraders might be playing it
[12:16 pm] rusty  : dont chase it
[12:16 pm] rusty  : imo
[12:17 pm] mh  : i thought AMCX was going to be a good long
[12:17 pm] mikewd2 -: dang day traders!
[12:17 pm] rusty  : lol
[12:17 pm] Ed : no to dead
[12:17 pm] Ed : im still waiting for the action on AMCX
[12:18 pm] Ed : spoke too soon
[12:19 pm] rusty  : Ecuador to Grant Asylum to Julian Assange -Guardian
[12:21 pm] doji  : Who is that?
[12:21 pm] rusty  :  http://www.google.com
[12:22 pm] rusty  : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=julian+assange
[12:26 pm] mikewd2 -: TSO down $1 from hod
[12:28 pm] rusty  : great call by eyes
[12:28 pm] mikewd2 -: glad we all jumped on it
[12:28 pm] mikewd2 -: easy money
[12:29 pm] mikewd2 -: at support,
[12:31 pm] mikewd2 -: covering some on TSO +1.06
[12:32 pm] mikewd2 -: figured that would drive it lower - haha
[12:35 pm] mikewd2 -: CLF selling off a bit
[12:35 pm] shark  : nice one, mike
[12:36 pm] mikewd2 -: except i'm still  long
[12:36 pm] shark  : oh no
[12:36 pm] mikewd2 -: tried to squeeze a couple more cents and then it fell
[12:38 pm] shark  : :(
[12:39 pm] mikewd2 -: MCP lod
[12:40 pm] mh  : AMCX tried 4 times got burned everyone
[12:41 pm] Ed : thats too many, u want to limit those trades in any one stock. Its saying either timing is off, or ur going against the trend
[12:43 pm] rusty  : Margaret Thatcher, 86 has passed away
[12:43 pm] mh  : ya ED for some reason I thought If it was a block trade it would come back to 42 or higher oh well lots to learn thanks
[12:43 pm] rusty  : doji: who is that
[12:43 pm] Ed : lol
[12:44 pm] mh  : my aunt
[12:45 pm] rusty  : http://bit.ly/IHlqGR
[12:45 pm] mikewd2 -: SLB lod
[12:47 pm] mikewd2 -: shutten her down, have a good one
[12:47 pm] rusty  : Margaret Thatcher maybe not dead
[12:47 pm] rusty  : maybe internet rumor
[12:47 pm] shark  : bye mike
[12:47 pm] khall  : cya mike
[12:47 pm] rusty  : buy mike
[12:52 pm] rusty  : OIH lod
[12:55 pm] rusty  : good night all
[12:55 pm] shark  : c ya rusty!
[12:55 pm] khall  : later rusty...
[01:00 pm] khall  : you too Ed -
[01:24 pm] shark  : nice little pop JDSU

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