Chat Highlights From 08/12/2011

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[06:18 am] Kris : good morning traders
[06:19 am] Brent : good morning, time to close this week out
[06:19 am] Kris : ADSK, DHX, JRCC, MCP, RRGB, DDS and BYI as possible short trade setups.
[06:19 am] Kris : Today I'm watching ALR, CYH, HAR, JVA, MGM, NVDA, INCY, TIVO and RVBD as possible longs
[06:20 am] Kris : I need to get to Del Mar soon joey
[06:21 am] Brent : I've got to get to Taco Del Mar soon
[06:21 am] Kris : thanks joey, I have a horse strategy too
[06:32 am] Kris : SODA short half position
[06:33 am] Kris : DNDN long half position
[06:33 am] Kris : I'll take NVDA long over 15.05
[06:34 am] Kris : SPY trying to push through 119
[06:35 am] Kris : LNCR long
[06:36 am] Kris : YOKU long half position
[06:37 am] Brent : watching DV for a bounce, support around 42.50
[06:37 am] Kris : COV long half position
[06:38 am] Kris : out another 1/4 YOKU long
[06:38 am] Kris : out half YOKU long
[06:39 am] Kris : out all YOKU long
[06:40 am] Kris : LNCR moving up
[06:40 am] Kris : target at 21.84 on LNCR
[06:41 am] Kris : EXXI long half position
[06:41 am] Kris : SPY searching for support
[06:42 am] Kris : if you got DDS short, look to take some profit here in this area
[06:43 am] Kris : buying coming in here
[06:44 am] Kris : out half LNCR, starting to stall a little here
[06:44 am] Kris : XOM long half position
[06:45 am] Kris : DNDN testing hod, looking for another move up
[06:45 am] Kris : EXXI out half
[06:46 am] Kris : buying coming in
[06:46 am] Kris : COV making new highs
[06:46 am] Kris : EL long half position
[06:46 am] Kris : see if we can get a push on these longs
[06:47 am] Kris : out half DNDN long
[06:48 am] Kris : MELI long half position
[06:49 am] Kris : out half EL long
[06:50 am] Kris : let's watch our longs
[06:50 am] Kris : out all EL long
[06:50 am] Kris : out half COV long
[06:50 am] Kris : SPY starting to come up into hod resistance soon
[06:51 am] Kris : out another piece of LNCR
[06:53 am] Kris : SPY holding up, see if we get a higher low here and another push into the hod area.
[06:53 am] Kris : that would be bullish
[06:54 am] Kris : CSCO short half position
[06:54 am] Kris : start looking for possible short trades if we break the last low support on spy around 118.20
[06:55 am] Kris : HRB short half position
[06:55 am] Kris : SPY breaking down
[06:56 am] Kris : thanks lara
[06:56 am] Kris : what a shocker
[06:57 am] Kris : I'm out COV at 49.29
[06:57 am] Kris : ok, we should get a bounce back here soon
[06:58 am] Kris : EXXI holding up
[06:58 am] Kris : FNSR long half
[06:58 am] Kris : watch it for support soon, could give a bounce on that COV
[07:00 am] Kris : HAR long over 33.20
[07:01 am] Kris : can we?
[07:01 am] Kris : DNDN trying to hold up, still have a small piece long
[07:01 am] Kris : good news is we can't have much less confidence than we have now
[07:01 am] Kris : lol
[07:02 am] Kris : BEXP short half position
[07:03 am] Kris : out all EXXI long
[07:03 am] Kris : that's trader confidence, not consumer.
[07:04 am] Kris : out half BEXP short
[07:05 am] Kris : we hit that 119 area yesterday on the SPY, strong resistance level.
[07:06 am] Kris : FFIV long half position
[07:06 am] Kris : no, long gone dan
[07:06 am] Kris : watch DANG for a long over 10.00
[07:07 am] Kris : close eye on HRB short, needs to breakdown soon or I'm out, market coming into support now
[07:08 am] Kris : SPY basing and testing trendline
[07:08 am] Kris : watch for SPY to break 118 or new lod
[07:09 am] Kris : YNDK long half position
[07:10 am] Kris : CTRP long half position
[07:11 am] Kris : SNDK short below 37.45
[07:12 am] Kris : REGN long half position
[07:12 am] Kris : YNDX
[07:14 am] Kris : ok, we're getting buyers
[07:15 am] Kris : see if these longs can make new highs
[07:15 am] Kris : they mostly held up against the selling
[07:17 am] Kris : looking for a new hod breakout on XOM
[07:17 am] Kris : out half FFIV long
[07:17 am] Kris : out half REGN long
[07:18 am] Kris : out half CTRP
[07:18 am] Kris : see if we can get another push higher from the consolidation here in the SPY
[07:19 am] Kris : DNDN moving up to test the hod
[07:19 am] Kris : GT long
[07:20 am] Kris : NTAP long half position
[07:21 am] Kris : I have a small RENN
[07:21 am] Kris : more like a 1/4
[07:21 am] Kris : RENN long half
[07:22 am] Kris : IMAX short
[07:22 am] Kris : SPY broke low side consolidation
[07:23 am] Kris : it's a little thin on NMM so you might want to go small or pass.
[07:23 am] Kris : NMM long half position
[07:25 am] Kris : buyers coming in here
[07:25 am] Kris : here we go
[07:25 am] Kris : SPY coming into that previous consolidation resistance
[07:25 am] Kris : watching URBN for a short, needs to run more. maybe up into 29.50
[07:26 am] Kris : GMW long half position
[07:27 am] Kris : looking for new highs in NTAP long
[07:28 am] Kris : QCOM long half
[07:29 am] Kris : will watch ST for a pullback to take long possibly
[07:31 am] Kris : out another 1/4 FFIV
[07:32 am] Kris : EAT short half position
[07:33 am] Kris : NTAP still looking healthy
[07:34 am] Kris : FWLT short
[07:34 am] Kris : I guess I love making money too much
[07:35 am] Kris : don't like the buying I'm seeing with that short on FWLT
[07:35 am] Kris : so I'll stay tight and watch it a little more closely
[07:35 am] Kris : start with half on FWLT
[07:36 am] Kris : looking for new highs in RENN
[07:36 am] Kris : SUN long half position
[07:37 am] Kris : APKT long half position
[07:38 am] Kris : out half QCOM long
[07:38 am] Kris : QCOM moving up
[07:38 am] Kris : SPY has been holding the trendine
[07:39 am] Kris : I'm out. Stop over 23.63 if you're still short scalpman. I stayed with half position on that.
[07:40 am] Kris : GS short
[07:42 am] Kris : but we get a break of this trendline and it could come down to test the lod
[07:42 am] Kris : no scalpman
[07:42 am] Kris : out half GWW long
[07:42 am] Kris : some buying coming in here
[07:43 am] Kris : JOE short
[07:48 am] Kris : not quite enough money in it yet for me.
[07:48 am] Kris : watching WTW for a long reversal
[07:50 am] Kris : BBY short
[07:51 am] Kris : come on GS, move it or lose it
[07:51 am] Kris : SPY coming down into LOD support
[07:53 am] Kris : ZOLL long half
[07:55 am] Kris : ADS long
[07:58 am] Kris : a lot of green coming through here
[07:59 am] Kris : VSEA long
[08:00 am] Kris : GS still creeping down
[08:01 am] Kris : APKT moving higher
[08:01 am] Kris : s or r vans?
[08:02 am] Kris : SIGA long
[08:03 am] Kris : I missed SIGA, not gonna chase it
[08:05 am] Kris : it hasn't figured it out either vans
[08:06 am] Kris : I agree steve
[08:06 am] Kris : we see a break below lod and could have some strong selling
[08:07 am] Kris : here we go again
[08:07 am] Kris : lol
[08:16 am] Kris : BBY breaking down to new los
[08:16 am] Kris : lows
[08:16 am] Kris : out half ZOLL ong
[08:16 am] Kris : stop second half 45.77 ZOLL long
[08:17 am] Kris : buyers coming in again here
[08:17 am] Kris : out half BBY short
[08:17 am] Kris : stop second half BBY over 24.07
[08:23 am] Kris : I think it's still good uptick
[09:14 am] Kris : ?
[09:14 am] Kris : looks like what opposite happened myrontay
[09:15 am] Kris : look for a bounce soon
[09:15 am] Kris : SPY at support here
[09:22 am] Brent : take care scalpman
[09:24 am] Kris : have a great weekend scalpman
[09:26 am] Brent : SPY approaching trendline support
[09:26 am] Kris : NVDA starting to round out
[09:30 am] Kris : see if we can break that overhead trendline in the SPy coming up here around 118.75
[09:31 am] Kris : it was over before the line went up
[09:39 am] Kris : no point taking the long if the SPY breaks lower through support
[09:39 am] Kris : wait for a trendline break vans, then ZOLL could be a good long
[09:45 am] Kris : it sounds logical but the markets are rarely ever logical. I've seen the same setup before and sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. Kind of a coin toss stocknut in my experience.
[09:47 am] Kris : SPY should give a good break to one side or the other soon.
[09:55 am] Kris : speechless
[09:55 am] Kris : uncanny, just plain uncanny
[09:55 am] Kris : wow absolutely amazing vans!
[09:56 am] Kris : booyah!
[09:56 am] Kris : lol
[09:57 am] Kris : good job vans, we're just teasing you. Bert was abused as a child.
[10:03 am] Brent : SPY approaching strong resistance at 118.64 due to Vans call
[10:06 am] Kris : is that a question or a statement vans?
[10:15 am] Kris : on what mhaus?
[10:17 am] Kris : need to push over that 118.70
[10:17 am] Kris : you could go long MCP over 59.00 if we hold support and move up in the SPY
[10:18 am] Kris : a long swing entry on a Friday?
[10:18 am] Kris : buying coming in here again
[10:18 am] Kris : it filled it's gap down today from the high resistance
[10:18 am] Kris : looking like an exhaustive gap so I would wait for Monday to see how it pans out.
[10:18 am] Kris : you can day trade it
[10:21 am] Brent : REGN
[10:21 am] Kris : watching REGN for a short
[10:22 am] Brent : have a great weekend myrontay
[10:22 am] Kris : see you Monday myrontay
[10:25 am] Kris : yeah, good call REGN bert
[10:27 am] Brent : I know
[10:27 am] Brent : lol, that was Kert's call. He beat me to it
[10:27 am] Kris : I'm just teasing bert
[10:45 am] Kris : ARMH long half
[10:52 am] Kris : watch for a breakout here in SPY
[11:05 am] Kris : break time for me. be back in 30.
[11:07 am] Brent : watching SPB for a bounce
[11:13 am] Brent : SPY testing trendline support
[11:27 am] Brent : anyone get SPB long? consider reducing here
[11:34 am] Brent : CIS alert
[11:53 am] Kris : I'm back
[12:31 pm] Brent : you too apple
[12:32 pm] Kris : have a good weekend pat
[12:32 pm] Kris : here comes the selling
[12:32 pm] Kris : see you Monday
[12:32 pm] Kris : SPY breaking down
[12:36 pm] Brent : you too Joey, see you Monday
[12:37 pm] Brent : you mean all on one horse?
[12:37 pm] Kris : See ya Joey
[12:38 pm] Kris : sounds like fun joey
[12:39 pm] Kris : I learned my horse strategy from an old pro
[12:41 pm] Kris : No
[12:42 pm] Kris : and ready to run
[12:42 pm] Kris : cause they're lighter
[12:42 pm] Kris : you watch them when the come at and the one that takes the biggest crap is the one you want to bet on.
[12:43 pm] Kris : it's never let me down
[12:44 pm] Kris : I don't use confirmations. no way do I have time for that.
[12:44 pm] Kris : I think every platform allows you to turn off confirmations.
[12:58 pm] Brent : have a great weekend everyone, good job this week. See you Monday
[01:01 pm] Kris : Another week in the books
[01:01 pm] Kris : Great job today everyone
[01:02 pm] Kris : We'll see you all back here Monday morning.

TSA
[06:15 am] joeytsa : retail sales .5% beat forecasts, prelim UofM consumer sentiment report at 9:55 est..only big reports i see today
[06:16 am] joeytsa : Gap up AAPL,RRGB,MCPSODA,FFIV
[06:17 am] joeytsa : Gap downs : BYI is the only big gap down i see
[06:18 am] joeytsa : for you swing/int traders..CBOU has been the only stock to keep moving up even on the past few big down days
[06:24 am] mikewd2 -: silver on the move down
[06:25 am] Brent : for 15 days I think joey
[06:25 am] joeytsa : so Europe has banned short selling??
[06:26 am] joeytsa : yeah i am seeing that..also Greek economy shrinks 6.9% in a year..what a mess
[06:27 am] joeytsa : i doubt the ban will work long term
[06:28 am] joeytsa : SODA moving up pre-market
[06:32 am] joeytsa : NVDA pulling back from the gap up..might set up a long
[06:33 am] myrontay : can't borrow soda :(
[06:36 am] joeytsa : 1.5 pts..yeah me !!!
[06:36 am] joeytsa : all out RRGB short on open
[06:37 am] junior : DV
[06:41 am] joeytsa : RRGB just filled its entire gap up
[06:42 am] stocknut : Anyone knows why the market is heading down now?
[06:43 am] joeytsa : profit taking maybe??
[06:46 am] myrontay : very nice call on LNCR Kris
[06:47 am] joeytsa : MCP just powering up
[06:49 am] joeytsa : NVDA another nice gap up fade..let's see if she can get her legs under her
[06:52 am] randall : agq popping
[06:53 am] candelas : plus 1.5 mcp short
[06:53 am] candelas : thx 4 heads up Kris
[06:53 am] lorie : MCP short
[06:53 am] mabdeen7 : NVDA sinking
[06:53 am] myrontay : nvda sinking bad
[06:54 am] lorie : ATPG
[06:55 am] joeytsa : AAPL falling
[06:55 am] lara : consumer confidence down
[06:55 am] mikewd2 -: consumer sentiment 54.9 expecting 60
[06:55 am] myrontay : wow down she goes
[06:57 am] joeytsa : exited my NVDA short way too early..lesson learned
[06:57 am] mhaus : Kris what is your limit for COV?
[06:58 am] joeytsa : did the same thing with my RRGB short..2 lessons learned this morning
[06:58 am] mhaus : thx
[07:00 am] lara : business inventories rise less than expected
[07:01 am] joeytsa : lara..especially for investors
[07:01 am] joeytsa : that's crazy mike
[07:01 am] lara : not much good news today
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: lowest confidence since may of 1980
[07:01 am] myrontay : agree lol
[07:02 am] joeytsa : when i looked on wed?..91% of stocks were below both the 10wk and 30wk ma's...lowest since '08 and '01
[07:02 am] randall : lnkd
[07:02 am] sonorant : Yes, but we've had Mitch to listen to, most of the other news out there is sounds really grim
[07:04 am] vans : fnsr may be good long soon
[07:06 am] dan : you still have SODA short Kris?
[07:07 am] joeytsa : until i see something different..it seems like a 'short the rally' game plan
[07:10 am] toptrade : yndx
[07:11 am] lara : YNDK??
[07:11 am] stevemld : YNDK?
[07:12 am] mikewd2 -: it was YNDX
[07:13 am] stevemld : EL trying to reverse
[07:14 am] mando : Anyone else having delay trouble with TOS? I think they are transitioning to TD Ameritrade this weekend
[07:15 am] spatz13 : mando - yes in paper trading
[07:16 am] lorie : yes TOS not working well today
[07:16 am] mando : Thanks Spatz. Helluva mess if Live Trading!! Lot more exciting
[07:17 am] joeytsa : nice move on FFIV
[07:20 am] myrontay : get ready for up move
[07:20 am] myrontay : looks like market forming a flag
[07:22 am] myrontay : ah broke down
[07:23 am] mikeal : ffiv looks strong any news ?
[07:25 am] myrontay : spy should jump to 118.4
[07:26 am] rusty : before starting the position
[07:26 am] rusty : LBAS penny stock short watch....waiting for some volume/news to come in
[07:27 am] mhaus : closed my COV
[07:27 am] mikewd2 -: GMW?
[07:27 am] myrontay : and pushing :)
[07:27 am] uptick : Got Ntap on pullback
[07:30 am] myrontay : flag complete
[07:33 am] anthonyb : guys, the ocean looks too nice to pass up. I'm going fishing. Have a great weekend everyone. And thanks for all of your help
[07:33 am] Brent : have fun anthonyb, sounds awesome
[07:34 am] junior : have a great time fishing!!!!! and good weekend anthonyb
[07:38 am] myrontay : yes very nice trendline
[07:39 am] scalpman : Kris, stop on EAT...are you out?
[07:40 am] myrontay : haha nice trendline
[07:40 am] scalpman : I'm not in, just watching you on that one...
[07:41 am] scalpman : Would you still short EAT Now?
[07:42 am] scalpman : wise
[07:42 am] uptick : How many legs does APKT have?
[07:44 am] uptick : All out APKT plus .45
[07:45 am] myrontay : quite happy now lol
[07:45 am] myrontay : sold almost all my longs right at that trendline mark
[07:45 am] myrontay : thnx for the draw
[07:46 am] rusty : SODA hod
[07:47 am] rusty : getting close to hod sorry
[07:49 am] derns : Kris..pls state if you decide to jump on WTW...I've been studying it this morning. Thx
[07:51 am] mhaus : Author Glain Says U.S. War with China “Inevitable,”
[07:51 am] rusty : BKX lod
[07:53 am] apple : good morning to all top traders
[07:54 am] mhaus : Derns, I have not seen Kris so I don't know if he needs WTW
[07:54 am] scalpman : WTW
[07:54 am] scalpman : WTW L @ 56.80
[07:55 am] derns : mhaus...lol!
[07:56 am] mhaus : DDS
[07:57 am] mikewd2 -: I've been in/out DDS 3 times today
[07:58 am] mhaus : yes, DDS has been a good ride today
[08:00 am] scalpman : Out even WTW
[08:00 am] vans : soda down to resistance
[08:01 am] vans : went long soda
[08:05 am] vans : can't figure market direction today
[08:06 am] mhaus : watching ONE for short
[08:06 am] stevemld : market starting to look a little shaky
[08:07 am] uptick : All out BBY plus .15
[08:07 am] vans : dds may break up
[08:08 am] apple : spy
[08:08 am] candelas : momma said be days like this where can't make up mind
[08:08 am] myrontay : I'm kinda liking the SPY today
[08:09 am] apple : at least it's in a channel and not going down the slope
[08:09 am] apple : she was right!
[08:09 am] candelas : markets that is
[08:10 am] candelas : it will eventually find its way
[08:10 am] mhaus : Well, Weight Watchers did lose some weight today.
[08:13 am] myrontay : so... after it exits the triangle...
[08:13 am] myrontay : up or down? lol
[08:14 am] apple : up- always reach for the stars!
[08:14 am] candelas : where is helicopter Ben?
[08:14 am] myrontay : I'm actually on 5050...
[08:14 am] myrontay : might reduce all and sit on cash lol
[08:14 am] myrontay : wait for the triangle to complete
[08:19 am] rusty : WTW radar here
[08:19 am] vans : when you say "buyers coming in here" do you refer to your last post BBY or the SPY
[08:20 am] vans : Soda broke to the south
[08:21 am] vans : missed it
[08:21 am] vans : watching for ROSE break down
[08:22 am] mhaus : SPB
[08:22 am] uptick : Kris, u out VSEA or is it good on this pullback?
[08:25 am] stevemld : FFIV trying to turn
[08:26 am] myrontay : brent/kris what program are u guys using for this live chart btw?
[08:26 am] rusty : steve, I showed up for steak but no one was home
[08:26 am] rusty : wtf
[08:27 am] Brent : it is if you use it as a chart and not trade on it
[08:27 am] Brent : this is ninja myrontay
[08:27 am] Brent : what broker do you have?
[08:27 am] myrontay : I'm using etrade
[08:27 am] myrontay : is it free lol
[08:27 am] myrontay : nice
[08:27 am] stevemld : lol rusty we will try again
[08:28 am] mikewd2 -: myrontay - are you not using etrade pro?
[08:28 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[08:28 am] myrontay : and there we go
[08:28 am] myrontay : BREAKTHRU
[08:28 am] myrontay : come on spy..
[08:28 am] myrontay : does it have live charts?
[08:28 am] myrontay : i am using etrade pro
[08:28 am] myrontay : i have live ticker feeds but no charts
[08:28 am] stevemld : ZOLL nice still trending up
[08:29 am] mikewd2 -: live as in real-time
[08:29 am] myrontay : oh. lol now i feel stupid
[08:30 am] Brent : you can't link Etrade's quotes to ninja so you would need a separate data feed
[08:30 am] mikewd2 -: true, Brent
[08:30 am] myrontay : yes but does it update on its own though?
[08:30 am] vans : wish I kept ZOLL, maybe on pull back
[08:31 am] mikewd2 -: but the etrade pro charts seem to follow your ninja charts
[08:31 am] mikewd2 -: guess I'm confused on auto-updating
[08:31 am] mikewd2 -: there are real time charting on etrade pro
[08:31 am] myrontay : wait, so mike is there an auto-updating chart on etrade pro?
[08:32 am] Brent : me too, what do you mean myrontay? are you not using any charts?
[08:32 am] myrontay : so for etrade pro I'm using streaming quotes
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: correct
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: if the charts are static
[08:33 am] mikewd2 -: you're not using etrade pro
[08:33 am] myrontay : for the charts on etrade though its live meaning when i click on charts it shows me the latest but it will not refresh on its own
[08:33 am] myrontay : nice breakout on spy
[08:33 am] myrontay : those refresh on its own and so i don't do anything
[08:34 am] apple : etrade c\\
[08:34 am] Brent : no Dan, not interested in it here, I missed the bounce from earlier
[08:34 am] Brent : right mikewd2
[08:34 am] dan : Brent you still watch DV?
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: i have 10 charts setup on the four screens and can move easily to each and trade from them
[08:34 am] mikewd2 -: no problem
[08:34 am] myrontay : i got it mixed up I'm on power etrade
[08:34 am] myrontay : my mistake people im sorry
[08:34 am] myrontay : OH.
[08:34 am] myrontay : sigh.
[08:34 am] rusty : WTW near term low from the other day = 55.50
[08:35 am] apple : mike - keep a small amount - etrade pro charts are very good
[08:35 am] Brent : lol
[08:35 am] Brent : so there's a power etrade and a power etrade pro?
[08:35 am] Brent : what's this world coming to
[08:35 am] mikewd2 -: I'm in process of moving from etrade pro per everyone's feedback and high commissions
[08:35 am] mikewd2 -: power etrade is i think that you did enough trades to get the 7.99 commission
[08:35 am] myrontay : lol brent
[08:35 am] rusty : watching for panic if low breaks
[08:35 am] rusty : x lol
[08:36 am] Brent : do you you have access to power etrade pro myrontay?
[08:36 am] Brent : ok
[08:36 am] junior : watching CTSH
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: etrade pro is a non-web based application
[08:36 am] mikewd2 -: its night and day from the web based etrade
[08:36 am] myrontay : i believe so
[08:37 am] Brent : that's what you need. Login to the etrade website and it should be on the right side of the page says "launch power etrade pro"
[08:37 am] lorie : Kris/Brent, do you always run your trend lines on a triangle?
[08:37 am] mikewd2 -: has a great scanner, which i think someone on the TSA uses
[08:37 am] myrontay : haha
[08:37 am] myrontay : I've been using the web based one so far which is why I'm not getting the live charts
[08:37 am] myrontay : yup got it Brent
[08:37 am] myrontay : yup ok i just checked
[08:38 am] apple : good for you myron
[08:38 am] apple : I use it for charts and scanning
[08:38 am] Brent : nothing dumb about it myrontay, if you don't ask, you won't learn
[08:38 am] mikewd2 -: apple what did u use to trade off of?
[08:38 am] mikewd2 -: IB, lightspeed
[08:38 am] myrontay : again i feel so dumb :D
[08:38 am] myrontay : i have my live charts now hooray lol
[08:38 am] myrontay : ive been actually using google charts for the longest time
[08:38 am] myrontay : of course - that's why i asked ;)
[08:39 am] apple : i use lightspeed with esignal
[08:39 am] mikewd2 -: don't know,
[08:39 am] mikewd2 -: i should be
[08:39 am] mikewd2 -: I'm in process of figuring what to move to
[08:39 am] myrontay : how is IB mike - heard a lot about it
[08:39 am] myrontay : oh i thought u were using it already
[08:39 am] myrontay : wow market is really jumping
[08:40 am] Brent : I usually draw the triangle when it's a long one like this lorie
[08:40 am] Brent : nice myrontay
[08:40 am] myrontay : i think i made at least 12 trades on SPY just using it and made on all
[08:40 am] myrontay : in and out in and out
[08:40 am] myrontay : very nice triangle brent thank you
[08:41 am] apple : B- can you put the spy chart up?
[08:43 am] lorie : thanks Brent, very interesting
[08:45 am] Brent : that is the spy apple
[08:45 am] rusty : WTW bounce
[08:46 am] apple : thx - I just refreshed
[08:46 am] Brent : the "SMA" stands for simple moving average
[08:46 am] myrontay : wow, relentless
[08:46 am] qwert : here comes 119 on spy again
[08:47 am] candelas : classic chart pattern
[08:47 am] candelas : or old but goodie
[08:48 am] apple : hopefully it will do a noon reversal and up and up from there...
[08:48 am] sonorant : Been on Trade Station simulator this a.m. to check it out. I set up a stop to cover a short. Then I went to buy to cover on half my shares, and it wouldn't let me until I changed the stop to be for just half my shares. Very time consuming.
[08:49 am] apple : pls
[08:49 am] apple : tell us
[08:49 am] Brent : lol staz
[08:49 am] Brent : two standard ways
[08:49 am] Brent : you guys know how to figure a target for the triangle breakout?
[08:49 am] myrontay : doesn't hurt to hear from an expert :)
[08:49 am] sonorant : I thought there were platforms out there that were smart enough to adjust the stop for you? Is this true?
[08:49 am] sonorant : NO
[08:49 am] staz : Call Cramer Brent?
[08:50 am] Brent : first is the widest point of the triangle
[08:51 am] Brent : that's a huge target, but the second method is this
[08:51 am] staz : How did we get anything accomplished prior to this new trading room? I love seeing this
[08:52 am] Brent : second method is to draw another trendline parallel to the lower trendline of the triangle
[08:52 am] Brent : so that first method, I took the widest point of the triangle and moved it over to the breakout point
[08:53 am] apple : perfect, thx B
[08:53 am] Brent : make sense?
[08:53 am] Brent : not exactly parallel, but you get the idea
[08:53 am] mhaus : yes
[08:53 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[08:53 am] myrontay : thank you brent
[08:53 am] staz : Thanks B
[08:53 am] staz : Zoro
[08:54 am] apple : I think I will take the second target...
[08:54 am] junior : thank you Brent!!
[08:54 am] lara : Well, I'll be happy if SPY closes at 120 today!
[08:54 am] myrontay : that means we still have a lot of upside? haha
[08:54 am] rusty : Brent = Zorro
[08:54 am] rusty : ty
[08:54 am] sonorant : Yes, and thanks. How do they come up with this stuff? ;-)
[08:55 am] mhaus : watching SHS
[08:55 am] rusty : "A chart is found next to every shipwreck"
[08:55 am] rusty : just sayin
[08:56 am] apple : lol, very funny rusty
[08:56 am] Brent : lol
[08:56 am] rusty : nah just pissed that steve wasn't home when I went for his promised steak and wine dinner
[08:56 am] staz : Rusty gettin' philosophical
[08:57 am] aussie123 : A direct inverse relationship between the VIXX and AAPL.... watch it.......
[08:57 am] junior : good one rusty
[08:57 am] rusty : what's this world coming too
[08:57 am] staz : Kinda like my trading used to be before Bert, Kert and Mitch
[08:57 am] staz : Must have been bad charts or bad usage of them
[08:57 am] staz : Now I am only somewhat incompetent
[08:58 am] Brent : "it's not what a trader said he was going to do that's important, it's what he actually did"
[08:58 am] Brent : Rusty, with steve it's like what Jesse Livermore used to say
[08:58 am] lisas : Mike, don't tell Mitch!
[08:58 am] mikewd2 -: dumped all my TNA - hoping to buy back later today
[08:58 am] mikewd2 -: i know
[08:58 am] rusty : good point brent
[08:58 am] rusty : you8r only as good as your last trade?
[08:58 am] staz : Mike you were supposed to hold the line
[08:59 am] lisas : I added to TNA today, and to UPRO
[09:00 am] candelas : how does saying go, 1st u don't know that you don't know, if u get to 2nd its now you know that you don't know and 3rd.u don't know that you know
[09:00 am] myrontay : is there a 3x bull ETF for SPY?
[09:00 am] scalpman : sonorant...yes...you do an OCO order
[09:00 am] sonorant : Asked a complicated question before the lesson -- think it got lost. Testing out Trade Station today. Had put a stop on my position. When I went to cover half, it wouldn't let me until I reduced the stop. Very time consuming. Are there any platforms that are smart enough to adjust the stop for you?
[09:00 am] staz : Man you can't trade with that noise in your ear Vans
[09:00 am] vans : I dumped TNA at this morning's high and been day trading it. Wife is furious, but am making better money
[09:01 am] apple : aristotle candelas - so true
[09:01 am] mikewd2 -: i wanted to sell early but didn't, know hope i can get it back lower sometime today
[09:01 am] myrontay : but TNA is for russel2000
[09:01 am] rusty : TNA myron
[09:01 am] scalpman : Each fill of the limit reduces the stop by the same amount
[09:01 am] scalpman : The OCO, allows you to divide up the limit orders at various prices.
[09:01 am] staz : Or a trailing stop sonorant
[09:01 am] vans : Missed a couple, now she is out tanning
[09:02 am] myrontay : thnx though rusty
[09:02 am] myrontay : yeah i know there's the SSO for double
[09:02 am] rusty : sorry SPY has only doubles I believe
[09:02 am] scalpman : The OCO is configured with the little three dot button ...
[09:02 am] scalpman : To set the limits and the stop..
[09:02 am] sonorant : Many thanks, scalpman and staz. Will check it out.
[09:03 am] lisas : I mean sonorant
[09:03 am] lisas : Scalpman, mininim oco batch is 100 shares, ie with 2 targets you need to buy 200 shares
[09:03 am] scalpman : APKT breaking down
[09:03 am] scalpman : APKT needs to break 56
[09:03 am] scalpman : SH and SDS are proshares 1x and 2x Short
[09:04 am] Brent : yes UPRO is correct
[09:04 am] myrontay : ah. thank you
[09:04 am] rusty : myron look at UPRO
[09:04 am] scalpman : APKT first target 55.71
[09:04 am] scalpman : yes...
[09:05 am] myrontay : so brent with this new formation coming - considered a flag continuation again?
[09:05 am] scalpman : .75
[09:05 am] sonorant : Thanks lisas, am trading small shares, so that is good to know
[09:06 am] vans : soda building for something, down triangle?
[09:07 am] Brent : yes could be myrontay
[09:07 am] scalpman : DIE APKT!
[09:08 am] lisas : Sonorant, something I have done to get around that is enter my order in 2 batches, then move one of the targets up, easy to do.
[09:08 am] myrontay : let's hope so, my portfolio is now full long
[09:09 am] lisas : ie I'm buying apple, place two orders of 10 shares, slightly different price, then you can see the targets to move one higher
[09:10 am] apple : lol - i am not for sale
[09:10 am] lisas : apple the company, not apple the person, :)
[09:10 am] rusty : Im thinking we're actually in a huge trading range now with SP 12000 resistance and 11k - 11200 support
[09:10 am] scalpman : ..should leg down
[09:10 am] scalpman : APKT resis at 56
[09:10 am] scalpman : OUt 1/2 APKT S
[09:11 am] scalpman : APKT 55.21 next target
[09:13 am] scalpman : APKT should continue to drop...
[09:13 am] sonorant : lisas, I have usually been buying in one lot, and then selling in 2-4, but that makes sense. The odd thing is, that I have this vague feeling that while I was "shopping around" the choices, someone had advertised that they automatically reduced the stop number of shares for you -- very clever. But I don't know who, and know I am wondering if I imagined it.
[09:13 am] sonorant : now I am wondering..
[09:14 am] myrontay : i mean, brent lol
[09:14 am] myrontay : kris, looks like the opposite happened...
[09:14 am] scalpman : OUt another 1/4 APKT S
[09:14 am] scalpman : SODA now dropping
[09:15 am] mikewd2 -: slowly buying back my TNA
[09:15 am] myrontay : but it's dropping
[09:15 am] myrontay : sorry i meant brent - i was saying how this might be a flag continuation
[09:15 am] rusty : whew...correction to prev post.... I'm thinking we're actually in a huge trading range now with SP 1200 resistance and 1100 - 1200 support
[09:15 am] scalpman : 47.66
[09:15 am] scalpman : dropping...
[09:15 am] scalpman : SODA S @ .66
[09:16 am] lisas : Sonorant, OCO's do reduce the number of shares when a target it is hit. So if you bought 200, split the targets 50/50, then when target 1 is hit, your stop market switches from 200 shares to 100 shares. (if I understand what you are looking for?)
[09:16 am] myrontay : Kris nice call
[09:16 am] rusty : http://my.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20110812-mgv v-83kb.jpg something like this
[09:16 am] scalpman : APKT should leg down more...maybe not...tighten stop
[09:17 am] scalpman : ..in the green
[09:17 am] scalpman : @ 55.99
[09:18 am] scalpman : Out 1/5 SODA
[09:19 am] scalpman : Out Even... sadly, I have to go.
[09:20 am] scalpman : All out APKT on the last 1/4
[09:20 am] scalpman : little vacation.
[09:20 am] scalpman : See you all in week.
[09:21 am] Kris : mystery meat
[09:21 am] mikewd2 -: tigers coming back, was 123rd now 115th
[09:21 am] rusty : cya scalpman....stay away from steve's place...he not serving steak as promised
[09:21 am] rusty : lol
[09:21 am] rusty : only thing that's aging is me
[09:21 am] scalpman : Iceland
[09:21 am] stevemld : lol have them aging right now Rusty
[09:22 am] apple : really, good for for you
[09:22 am] scalpman : BYE...thanks Kris and Brent
[09:22 am] scalpman : I'm gonna see some "ice"
[09:25 am] candelas : I've taken like 50 breaks today
[09:26 am] candelas : where is Gecko
[09:29 am] stevemld : reversed ZOLL needs to break below 46.70 area to be legit
[09:30 am] apple : I asked yesterday - K said he is on vacation
[09:31 am] apple : yeah, baby, let's break it!
[09:35 am] vans : If SPY hits 118.22, should have nice up tick
[09:38 am] pow : nvda tanging
[09:38 am] vans : is this good long entry on ZOLL
[09:39 am] vans : looks like may be forming downside triangle on q min.
[09:40 am] vans : downside, 1 min
[09:41 am] mikewd2 -: have all my TNA back, shaved 0.80 off my average
[09:41 am] mikewd2 -: now we can rally
[09:41 am] vans : Not yet, waiting for TNA to hit 118
[09:42 am] rusty : lod
[09:42 am] rusty : MCP radar
[09:42 am] vans : SPY not tna, then back in TNA
[09:43 am] mikewd2 -: Kris, are you looking for 117.90 on SPY?
[09:43 am] stocknut : Should we expect a selloff at the close now that we are close to the weekend and there is still fear in the market?
[09:46 am] stocknut : Appreciated your input
[09:46 am] vans : stopped mcp
[09:47 am] vans : if it follows mcp we will fall hard
[09:48 am] rusty : JVA radar
[09:49 am] lisas : good call on mcp rusty
[09:49 am] mikewd2 -: DDS coming back into trading range, in/out 4 times today
[09:49 am] myrontay : broke
[09:49 am] myrontay : down
[09:49 am] myrontay : we go
[09:49 am] rusty : ty got lucky
[09:51 am] candelas : thought it was skill rusty
[09:52 am] candelas : Im with u on that
[09:52 am] rusty : luck is showing up at stevemld house and getting steak he promised
[09:52 am] vans : SPY bounced perfectly off 118.22 am I phsy.. now the test
[09:55 am] Brent : didn't know what to say
[09:55 am] Brent : I'm speechless vans
[09:55 am] candelas : wow Vans, way to go
[09:55 am] vans : Strange, no comments on how I called it to the penny. on SPY
[09:56 am] Brent : actually it only hit 118.23
[09:56 am] candelas : I was typeless
[09:56 am] candelas : was that rain
[09:56 am] myrontay : lol
[09:56 am] rusty : great call vans
[09:56 am] vans : Even clapping
[09:56 am] vans : THanks, needed that for confidence
[09:56 am] vans : You guys are great
[09:57 am] apple : i am ready
[09:57 am] aussie123 : Yeah VANS
[09:57 am] mikewd2 -: now give us the high
[09:57 am] rusty : go to steve's house, he'll give u a steak
[09:58 am] rusty : lol
[09:59 am] vans : 118.63
[09:59 am] vans : 118.64 sorry
[10:00 am] Brent : lol
[10:00 am] Brent : miss calculated vans?
[10:00 am] mikewd2 -: i think there will be a sell off, everyone on CNBC saying to trim your holdings into the weekend
[10:00 am] vans : OH, is simple .42 cent rule used by all trading computers
[10:01 am] Brent : even Candelas' Trader 9000?
[10:01 am] candelas : those journalist love giving calls
[10:01 am] mikewd2 -: that this volatility isn't over
[10:02 am] candelas : yep
[10:02 am] vans : OH, just joking, no one take my numbers serious, Liability
[10:03 am] candelas : for every position I take, I buy 1 share of insurance for the other side
[10:03 am] myrontay : LOL
[10:04 am] candelas : confidence in reverse, some call it hedging
[10:04 am] lisas : are you buying puts candelas?
[10:04 am] myrontay : hahaha seems like the SPY shot right thru the resistance
[10:05 am] Brent : A friend of mine does something similar with the CL. He'll do that with the next contract out
[10:05 am] vans : Resistance is only a warning to get ready, not a sell
[10:06 am] candelas : i thought it was like edged in stone
[10:06 am] candelas : now u tell me Vans
[10:06 am] vans : if breaks up
[10:06 am] vans : next stop 119.06
[10:07 am] candelas : no Lisa, don't trade options as much anymore
[10:07 am] vans : Keep me laughing and I will miss something
[10:08 am] apple : candelas - what is your email address?
[10:08 am] candelas : I did trade options 1 day in june and made like 35k
[10:09 am] apple : thx
[10:09 am] candelas : edmoody77@hotmail.com
[10:09 am] lisas : 35 k sounds good, why did you stop?
[10:10 am] apple : sounds fantastic to me...
[10:10 am] Brent : lol
[10:10 am] candelas : I am more consistent with stock
[10:10 am] candelas : Kris and I have similar stories on options
[10:10 am] candelas : LOL
[10:10 am] Kris : amen
[10:10 am] Kris : been there done that
[10:10 am] Kris : cause the next day -70k
[10:10 am] lisas : I'm learning options more now, not jumping in yet
[10:11 am] vans : options are unfair, like stealing. I have had stocks sky rocket and the options stay same, then sink when stocks correct
[10:12 am] candelas : nice call on nvda
[10:12 am] vans : but I do have a CMG option, waiting for $15 upside.
[10:13 am] mikewd2 -: 2013's, almost no time value when i bought on CSCO, HPQ and NOK
[10:13 am] mikewd2 -: and RIG
[10:13 am] mikewd2 -: i currently have Leaps on GS, CSCO, HPQ and NOK
[10:14 am] lisas : Where you at the Las Vegas seminar Mike, someone was asking about leaps there. I'd never heard of them before
[10:14 am] mhaus : for MCP
[10:14 am] mhaus : Kris, Brent, what do you guys think Where do you see a bottom? Would it be a good swing?
[10:14 am] mikewd2 -: no
[10:15 am] mhaus : I guess it already turned
[10:15 am] mhaus : on MCP
[10:15 am] mikewd2 -: i also usually buy deep in the money Leap calls, one reason for the low time value
[10:15 am] vans : MCP could close gap to 54.9
[10:17 am] mhaus : but I was looking for a good entry point for swing
[10:17 am] mhaus : ok. thanks
[10:18 am] mhaus : I am holding TNA at 43.68 for swing
[10:18 am] mhaus : ok. I guess forget MCP for swing
[10:18 am] mhaus : thx
[10:20 am] candelas : regn
[10:21 am] myrontay : going to leave myself net long
[10:21 am] myrontay : ok guys calling it a night
[10:21 am] myrontay : thnx brent and kris
[10:22 am] mhaus : myrontay, have a good weekend.
[10:22 am] myrontay : u2
[10:24 am] vans : thanks regn BRENT
[10:25 am] mikewd2 -: REG 56.25 s, covered 55.5 - nice one
[10:25 am] vans : have a gut feeling will see TNA at 40 on monday
[10:26 am] observer : SLV near hod
[10:27 am] qwert : ok thanks kris
[10:27 am] qwert : Thanks Brent for regn
[10:28 am] mhaus : guys, give some credit to candelas. She called it first.
[10:28 am] randall : nice bert; it slipped right past my limit and I let it go. Where did you fill? I tried at .14S
[10:28 am] vans : nflx looks ready to go
[10:29 am] lisas : Good call Edwina
[10:29 am] mhaus : Kris, you need to play a song for her now.
[10:29 am] mikewd2 -: your right mhaus
[10:29 am] qwert : thanks candles didn't see you beat everyone to regn
[10:30 am] Brent : lol
[10:30 am] Brent : mhaus. Candelas is a dude
[10:30 am] Brent : wow, Thanks Candelas
[10:30 am] pow : I missed the short on MCP.....What do you guys do. Set alerts for the move down?
[10:30 am] vans : Correct, didn't see, Congrats Candelas, Needed that profit
[10:31 am] mhaus : I probably will meet you all in the next seminar and then get to know you all.
[10:31 am] mhaus : sorry! song for him
[10:31 am] qwert : and has his own restaurant in Coronado!
[10:32 am] candelas : no problem
[10:32 am] candelas : the more confirmation the better
[10:32 am] lightning : REGN could become a long soon
[10:33 am] Brent : you really own a restaurant Candelas? what kind
[10:33 am] candelas : they stole my name
[10:33 am] candelas : u guys/gals are 2 funny
[10:33 am] Kris : lol
[10:33 am] mhaus : Chef is Steve
[10:33 am] mhaus : the one that serves steaks.
[10:33 am] vans : Sucks, every week i start trading well on Thur and Frid than the weekend cools me off and I suck on M-Wed again
[10:34 am] candelas : go too
[10:34 am] candelas : the one Kert and Qwert goes too
[10:34 am] Kris : I set alerts all day pow
[10:35 am] rusty : hey steve, I'm having lobster, filet and fois gras at my house in Versailles. Fee free to come over tonite.
[10:36 am] mhaus : IDCC should be ready for a small short soon
[10:46 am] randall : rusty: which versailles? LA, Manhattan Beach, Miami?
[10:46 am] vans : cmg is amazing, the stock moved up almost four dollars and my option went up 10 cents. crooks
[10:48 am] mikewd2 -: what's the strike price and month?
[10:48 am] rusty : France
[10:49 am] mikewd2 -: must be way out of the money call
[10:54 am] mhaus : YOKU on a slow climb
[10:59 am] mhaus : SPB
[11:01 am] vans : cmg strike sept 320
[11:07 am] joeytsa : you look at deltas mike?
[11:07 am] mikewd2 -: that option seems expensive
[11:07 am] mikewd2 -: vans that is why i buy in the money calls, they will move closer to the stock gains
[11:08 am] joeytsa : i stick with around an 75-80 delta when i buy in the money options
[11:08 am] vans : crazy expensive, but trusted MK intuition. went up $450 yesterday, but flat today
[11:09 am] vans : Have a house balloon coming due, need $15k in 30 days. Let me know any possible good plays, thanks
[11:10 am] lisas : You bought the options yesterday vans?
[11:10 am] mikewd2 -: go with joey to the horse track!
[11:11 am] joeytsa : :)
[11:11 am] vans : shot that
[11:11 am] vans : spy forming up triangle
[11:12 am] mikewd2 -: wow
[11:12 am] stocknut : Here it comes the selloff...nobody want to stay long, too much fear in the market
[11:12 am] vans : nothing set in stone, ay candelas
[11:13 am] stocknut : Does anyone know what is going on? Any bad news?
[11:14 am] joeytsa : only bad news i see is USPS wanting to cut 120k jobs
[11:14 am] lisas : volume at NYSE and NASDAQ down 22 percent today. Friday afternoon, thin market, may get crazy
[11:15 am] apple : or is it???
[11:15 am] vans : too early for end of day sell off
[11:16 am] stocknut : Don't know... this market is too volatile...
[11:16 am] stocknut : I better stay aside
[11:16 am] vans : not taking TNA home to mom this weekend
[11:17 am] apple : I am holding strong...
[11:17 am] joeytsa : VRUS on a nice run last few days..think they announced a split earlier in the week?
[11:17 am] stocknut : Me neither
[11:17 am] stocknut : unless it drops below $40....
[11:19 am] mikewd2 -: GS testing lod
[11:21 am] joeytsa : if SPY falls i would expect GS to fall along with it
[11:21 am] mikewd2 -: gs
[11:21 am] vans : Apple, I can't afford to stay so strong, my account is only 27k
[11:22 am] mikewd2 -: and you need to make 15K in 30 days?
[11:22 am] stocknut : Can you please share your entry price in TNA?
[11:22 am] vans : made 8 % on account yesterday, 500 today. working on it. wish me luck
[11:23 am] mikewd2 -: u might need it
[11:23 am] rusty : vans - i gotta place you can make 115k in few days
[11:23 am] stocknut : We all need it!
[11:23 am] vans : will, will need it.
[11:24 am] mikewd2 -: and trade it a couple times more today - 45 to 45.8
[11:24 am] mikewd2 -: bought back at 45
[11:24 am] mikewd2 -: stocknut, my entry was 38'ish, but sold out at 46.03
[11:24 am] rusty : u got a ski mask?
[11:24 am] stocknut : Yeah, I got it at 39.76 and sold it at 45.32
[11:25 am] apple : rusty you are too much
[11:25 am] joeytsa : if you are looking to get in at lower prices you can always sell a cash-secured naked put...but i would only do that on fundamentally strong stocks
[11:25 am] stocknut : EU
[11:25 am] stocknut : Planned to buy it back but..... not Today, you don't know what the weekend can brig form the other side of the Atlantic
[11:26 am] apple : lol mike - candelas does...
[11:26 am] candelas : if one is name after u does that count
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: anyone own a restaurant, they are usually easy to knock off -
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: naked puts that is
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, joey i've done well early in the year by selling puts
[11:27 am] joeytsa : i'm looking at a few lower priced stocks to do it on..lots of research to do this weekend
[11:27 am] mikewd2 -: there u go vans
[11:27 am] vans : will study your thoughts, thanks for brain teaser
[11:28 am] rusty : selling puts was particularly good on mega down days
[11:28 am] rusty : when premium high
[11:28 am] stocknut : Don't like how the SPY is acting....
[11:29 am] candelas : court rules against obama care
[11:29 am] joeytsa : long-term i think there are some profit areas, short-term things are very volatile right now
[11:29 am] vans : very risky on days when stocks pop up fast. prefer just puts so know my risk
[11:30 am] apple : IDCC moving up nicely
[11:30 am] candelas : yes. have to be careful selling naked
[11:30 am] joeytsa : i hear ya vans
[11:30 am] mikewd2 -: on naked sell puts you want the stock to go up
[11:30 am] mikewd2 -: then buy the put back
[11:31 am] joeytsa : unless you want to buy it cheaper :)
[11:31 am] joeytsa : you get the stock cheaper and you bring in some premium
[11:31 am] mikewd2 -: ah, i c
[11:31 am] mikewd2 -: understand, haven't done that before
[11:31 am] vans : SPB broke the consolidation and scared me, missed entry. as played TNA long instead.
[11:32 am] mikewd2 -: at least CSCO is holding up, i have 125 January '13 10 calls.
[11:32 am] mikewd2 -: at least on purpose, i've inherited some of my puts
[11:33 am] joeytsa : big money grip :)
[11:33 am] mhaus : SPB in 23.57 out 23.80
[11:33 am] mikewd2 -: avg price is 14.50
[11:33 am] mikewd2 -: didn't think it could go lower once it hit 14
[11:33 am] vans : you have 125 contracts, WOW
[11:34 am] mikewd2 -: bet
[11:34 am] mikewd2 -: only 50 cents time value for 1.5 years not a bad bed
[11:34 am] vans : i have bought plenty of stocks that I didn't think could go lower, still siiting on t hem after years
[11:35 am] joeytsa : take F ie...if you like it here at $11, but not sure, you can sell the 10puts..bring some premium, if it drops then you get F at $10..not recommendation, just mentioning an idea
[11:36 am] stocknut : SPY....
[11:36 am] vans : platform freeze up, dang
[11:38 am] mikewd2 -: CIS at all time low, any news?
[11:40 am] candelas : any major difference in esignal 10.6 and 11
[11:41 am] Brent : nothing major candelas that I've noticed
[11:41 am] joeytsa : mike..not seeing any news on CIS
[11:41 am] mikewd2 -: i read that you couldn't use 11 with lightspeed is that true????
[11:41 am] vans : good entry for small tna weekend entry, i hope
[11:42 am] candelas : thx,
[11:42 am] mberl1 : hey guys question, what trading platform do you think is best?
[11:42 am] mikewd2 -: i hope so vans
[11:42 am] stocknut : in TNA
[11:42 am] stocknut : What is your entry Vans?
[11:42 am] vans : NOT GXTrader
[11:43 am] mhaus : mberl1, check the documents section
[11:43 am] mikewd2 -: kris, did you post the poll on each traders trading platform?>
[11:43 am] vans : 44.12
[11:44 am] mberl1 : i will sorry new to TSA, where is that
[11:44 am] mhaus : a very common question. i had asked the same
[11:44 am] mikewd2 -: bottom right of the window
[11:44 am] vans : will sell TNA again if rises sharply
[11:45 am] Brent : mberl, in the "documents" folder in the lower right of the trading room has a document of recommended brokers/platforms
[11:45 am] joeytsa : bird in hand= messy hand :)
[11:45 am] mberl1 : ty
[11:45 am] mikewd2 -: CIS getting ready for a bounce?
[11:45 am] vans : hey, if it clucks like a chicken
[11:45 am] vans : prefer bird in hand then unknown weekend
[11:46 am] joeytsa : IDCC hod
[11:46 am] mberl1 : i have been looking at Interactive brokers any opinion on that one Brent?
[11:46 am] mberl1 : looking now
[11:46 am] mikewd2 -: missed CIS, not going to chase
[11:47 am] mikewd2 -: your cleaning up vans on TNA
[11:50 am] vans : sold tna at resistance, CLUK CLUK
[11:51 am] joeytsa : good job
[11:51 am] lisas : Given your situation vans, a bird in the hand is a sound trading plan
[11:51 am] vans : HEY, 15k need to be a sniper
[11:51 am] vans : unfortunately, they wont let me sell short the SPY or TNA today.
[11:52 am] candelas : what's the best way to get AD strategies over to esignal in new computer?
[11:52 am] lightning : you can go long TZA (the inverse of TNA)
[11:53 am] Brent : his efs formulas candelas?
[11:53 am] candelas : yes
[11:54 am] apple : welcome back, K - you didn't miss anything...
[11:54 am] Brent : If you go to "my computer"
[11:54 am] Brent : then Program files (x86), then Esignal, then formulas, the folder is in there
[11:54 am] Brent : you probably created a folder called ADM Strategies.
[11:55 am] Brent : I would drag that folder onto a flash drive, then transfer it over to the same location on your new computer
[11:55 am] candelas : ok thx
[11:56 am] joeytsa : SSO is the ultra s&p500
[11:56 am] joeytsa : vans...SDS is the ultra-short s&p500
[11:56 am] vans : lightning, thanks for TZA idea, will check now
[11:57 am] lightning : Vans, nearly all the leveraged ETFs have an inverse available.
[11:58 am] joeytsa : hahaha
[11:58 am] sonorant : a very simple
[11:58 am] sonorant : lisas, just tried and very simple OCO order -- for starters, much simpler than trying to place and a separate stop. And I can see there are lots of options. Will keep exploring. Thanks.
[11:58 am] vans : Hey, thanks for TZA, works
[11:58 am] vans : now I can lose money in both directions
[11:59 am] sonorant : Well, it made no sense, but hopefully you get the drift.
[12:00 pm] joeytsa : lisas...where will you open your new futures account?
[12:00 pm] lisas : sonorant, are you trading sim for now? Good idea until you learn the system. They have good vidoes to learn the system at support. ( I am still transferring my futures $ out, will keep them for stocks for now)
[12:00 pm] mikewd2 -: LO
[12:01 pm] lisas : joeytsa, I'm looking at one cadelas recommended. I also already have an account at infinity that is auto traded
[12:01 pm] lisas : They have videos on demand and live classes. Look under support tab on main website
[12:01 pm] sonorant : Yes, sim only for now. And I have found the videos -- done a couple already this morning. Still not wedded to Trade Station, but may end up there. thanks.
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : gotya
[12:02 pm] lisas : so may be easiest to add second account there
[12:03 pm] joeytsa : i have accounts set up with 4 different places...thinking about consolidating eventually
[12:03 pm] lisas : good sign that market is ticking up at bond pit close, will be interesting to see if it continues
[12:03 pm] lisas : which ones are you using? Are these all futures, or stocks or both?
[12:03 pm] mhaus : lisas, what are you using for an autotrader?
[12:04 pm] joeytsa : LS,CS,opX and trade pro futures
[12:04 pm] sonorant : Are you folks using more than one computer?
[12:05 pm] joeytsa : each one offers something a bit different for me
[12:05 pm] lisas : mhaus, email me lctcgak@aol.com, have to take a phone call right now
[12:10 pm] lightning : sonorant, I currently use 2 computers....one for trading/charts, and one for all other purposes (trading room/internet/etc.)
[12:13 pm] sonorant : Thanks. I have two going now too, but don't know if it is the most efficient way to do it.
[12:14 pm] junior : IOC
[12:14 pm] qwert : brent or kris is there a way to have a chart load for you automatically on e-signal when an alert is hit?
[12:15 pm] Brent : Not that I have found qwert
[12:15 pm] mikewd2 -: that would be cool qwert
[12:16 pm] qwert : when my alerts are hit i have to click on a chart just to see which one it is , is that the way yours is setup?
[12:17 pm] joeytsa : vans...another leveraged etf you might check out is UWM...ultra Russell2000
[12:17 pm] mikewd2 -: u do anything with IOC junior?
[12:20 pm] joeytsa : makes total sense
[12:20 pm] vans : Thanks for Idea, but need to get focused on one etf and learn to feel the vibes. not to get to many pans on the fire and lose track of all of them. Thanks for thoughts though
[12:21 pm] joeytsa : start as a specialist first, then become a shephard, finally a surfer
[12:22 pm] randall : now this is a flat market!
[12:23 pm] stocknut : Let's see what happens
[12:23 pm] stocknut : The selloff yesterday started at 3:45PM ET
[12:24 pm] vans : yes, fly baby
[12:26 pm] vans : ate too much roughage
[12:27 pm] rusty : at least u ate, try going to Steve's house for his promised steak
[12:27 pm] rusty : VIX is hammering today.... volatility aint over yet
[12:29 pm] vans : bby soon, may bounce if get more drop
[12:31 pm] apple : I have to go - thx K and B and everyone - have a wonderful weekend
[12:33 pm] stocknut : Again, today started 10min earlier
[12:33 pm] stocknut : Let's see how it goes
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : time to run..have a great weekend everyone, see you monday morning
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : have a good one Kris...might have to meet up at del mar one day
[12:39 pm] vans : OK, I need to learn to make longer trades, instead of the very stressful sniper approach. Can I get guidance into the charts to use. look at the 1day, 1 hour, 15 min, and buy on the 1 min?
[12:40 pm] qwert : do you pick the prettiest one kris?
[12:41 pm] rusty : if u want longer trades forget the one minute chart
[12:42 pm] Brent : lol
[12:42 pm] lisas : Guess I came back at the right time, Kris is talking krap again! lol
[12:42 pm] mikewd2 -: i pick the gray horses, they always screw my bets up
[12:42 pm] qwert : lol
[12:42 pm] sonorant : Brent and Kris, one last question. Just brought up my Lightspeed Demo, and my sense is that it is VERY different from the TradeStation that I have been working with for the last few days. For one thing, no confirmation step on the trades. So quicker. In your experience, does this make a difference?
[12:42 pm] staz : Feed the competition some beano
[12:42 pm] staz : or cheese
[12:43 pm] Brent : you can set up a confirmation I think. I always used it without, it was much faster
[12:43 pm] lisas : sonorant, lightspeed is probably great, but you can turn off the trade confirmation in TS. Not that I'm happy with them right now remember.
[12:44 pm] qwert : even etrade allows it
[12:44 pm] rusty : HHC radar - not ideal setup of time tho
[12:44 pm] rusty : so just observing
[12:44 pm] sonorant : Oh, good information everyone. Thanks. Lisas -- do you have the confirmation turned off?
[12:45 pm] lisas : Oh yes, takes way too much time. You can set it to confirm based on trade size, dollar amount, just in case you make a typo in your order to buy a million shares
[12:46 pm] candelas : exactly
[12:46 pm] Kris : that's a good point lisas. You don't want to get candelashed.
[12:46 pm] lisas : Just go to "file" then order preference, or right click top of order matrix
[12:46 pm] mhaus : Lisas, have sent you an email.
[12:47 pm] lisas : Just trying to answer it, will probably watch market close then finish
[12:47 pm] mhaus : anytime. not in a hurry.
[12:47 pm] sonorant : lisas, thanks
[12:49 pm] sonorant : And Brent, is it possible to do all the fancy conditional trads on LightSpeed that you can do on Trade Station. (And eventually I will quit driving everyone crazy.)
[12:50 pm] Brent : your fine sonorant
[12:50 pm] sonorant : trades
[12:51 pm] Brent : You can set up hot buttons, but you can't get do the fancy stuff like OCO's and stuff
[12:51 pm] sonorant : okay, thanks.
[12:52 pm] Brent : well done vans
[12:52 pm] candelas : stay in the zone Vans
[12:52 pm] lisas : great job vans.
[12:52 pm] sonorant : So, today I learned how to place an order to buy and a stop to sell both at the same time on Trade station. I take it I can't do that in LIght Speed. What about your Ninja T?
[12:52 pm] stocknut : Good job Vans
[12:52 pm] vans : $2500 in two days, just over 10% account growth. Need to keep it up
[12:52 pm] vans : Thanks for all your help people, and ideas
[12:53 pm] Brent : lightspeed you have to enter separately
[12:53 pm] lisas : Once my swing in TNA has hit target, I'm going to look at daytrading it more.
[12:53 pm] mhaus : Ninja allows that
[12:53 pm] mhaus : you set order type to oco
[12:53 pm] observer : way to go, vans
[12:53 pm] sonorant : I wish I had done that in my sim accounts!
[12:54 pm] mhaus : yes
[12:54 pm] mhaus : you can save it as a template
[12:54 pm] qwert : lisas- what is your tgt for tna?
[12:54 pm] rusty : BKX lod
[12:54 pm] sonorant : Thanks mhaus -- so it makes it faster, yes?
[12:54 pm] vans : I credit MK for telling us to stay strong, it worked yesterday
[12:55 pm] sonorant : Maybe we will all be up $2500 by next Friday if the TNA is strong next week.
[12:56 pm] mhaus : I had a good week thanks to AGQ and TQQQ.
[12:57 pm] mhaus : This week I am betting on TNA
[12:57 pm] mhaus : will carry it over the weekend
[12:58 pm] candelas : alright take care
[12:58 pm] lisas : qwert. I will follow Mitch's guidance, but I'm hoping to hit the mid 60's
[12:58 pm] mikewd2 -: carrying over TNA and ZSL
[12:58 pm] observer : Take care, Brent
[12:58 pm] qwert : you to brent
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