Chat Highlights From 08/03/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat

August 3, 2012

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TSA Moderator Chat

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[06:24 am] Mitch K: my guess is stocks wont have as deep of a drop as we have been seeing this last 4 days on the opening drop.  Stocks should be showing more  a bullish trend this morning.  The shorts wont mature as much either.  Bias is on the bullish side more today

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[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching OMPI for bottom to buy

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[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching WPRT for top to short

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[06:32 am] Mitch K: ok, it looks like same pattern as this last 3-4 days, big moves

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[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching NIL for top, 33.70 area

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[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching EOG for top to short

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[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching ARUN for bottom to buy long

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[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching MHK for bottom to buy

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[06:34 am] Mitch K: monitoring ATVI, not ready yet

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[06:34 am] Mitch K: sell signal on KCG if long

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[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching WLT for bottom to buy

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[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching ZAGG for bottom

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[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching VIAB for top to short

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[06:36 am] Mitch K: consider reducing OMPI if long

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[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching SKUL for bottom to buy

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[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching OPEN for top to short

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[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching LBTYA for top to short

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[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching V fo rbottom to buy

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[06:37 am] Mitch K: monitoring SRZ for top

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[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching CBST for top to short

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[06:39 am] Mitch K: cover VIAB short

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[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching WCG for bottom to buy

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[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching XEC for bottom to buy

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[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching MHK closer for top

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[06:41 am] Mitch K: monitoring TSU for bottom

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[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching UPL for bottom to buy

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[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching SWN for bottom to buy

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[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching CXO for top to short

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[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching NFLX for bottom to buy

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[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching DNKN for top to short, take time

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[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching AWK for bottom to buy

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[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching DHI for bottom to buy

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[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching TOL for bottom to buy

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[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching CLB for bottom

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[06:46 am] Mitch K: just monitoring

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[06:46 am] Mitch K: monitoring MELI for top but looks too strong to short

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[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching MCP for bottom to buy

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[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching WAG for bottom to buy

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[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching LPS for bottom to buy

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[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching WCG closer for bottom

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[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching homebuilders for bottom:  DHI, TOL, PHM

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[06:49 am] Mitch K: try for best price though

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[06:49 am] Mitch K: hope you covered VIAG, came back below 45, still ok to cover

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[06:50 am] Mitch K: looking for 32 on NILE, maybe lower, be flexible, try covering increments

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[06:50 am] Mitch K: consider covering EOG if short

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[06:50 am] Mitch K: be flex

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[06:51 am] Mitch K: MHK turning over nicely, looking for 68 area on short

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[06:51 am] Mitch K: consider selling ARUN if still long

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[06:52 am] Mitch K: V should move back above 130 to sell long

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[06:52 am] Mitch K: still liking WCG for bottom, just waiting

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[06:53 am] Mitch K: NILE probably goes below 32,

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[06:53 am] Mitch K: watching SYNA for top to short

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[06:54 am] Mitch K: still like WCG, getting better

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[06:54 am] Mitch K: consider selling NFLX

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[06:54 am] Mitch K: consider selling SWN long

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[06:55 am] Mitch K: little more downside on the DNKN short

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[06:55 am] Mitch K: watching SYNA for top to short, dont forget this one, keep on chart all day

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[06:56 am] Mitch K: still good trades today, just not as many as Wed THurs, has same or similar volatility

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[06:56 am] Mitch K: try for best price to sell AWK if long

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[06:58 am] Mitch K: same with SWN

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[06:58 am] Mitch K: watch NFLX for short on top of this bounce

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[06:59 am] Mitch K: consider selling AAP if long

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[06:59 am] Mitch K: more downside on NILE

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[06:59 am] Mitch K: 68 didnt happen for MHK but watch for 2nd helping short

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[07:00 am] Mitch K: still monitoring homebuilders:  DHI, TOL PHM

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[07:00 am] Mitch K: taking MCP off screen

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[07:00 am] Mitch K: MCP deadsville

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[07:01 am] Mitch K: that was best chart for long few min ago and SYNA best short chart

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[07:01 am] Mitch K: looking for over 58 on WCG

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[07:01 am] Mitch K: consider covering NILE

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[07:02 am] Mitch K: when you see big move in AAP, Adsvanced Auto Parts, you watch ORLY, Oreilly AUto Parts at same time

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[07:03 am] Mitch K: consider selling ATVI if long

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[07:03 am] Mitch K: over 20% drop today on ZAGG

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[07:03 am] Mitch K: still watching ZAGG but lower priced

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[07:04 am] Mitch K: losing patience with OMPI, good bounce but not moving up fast

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[07:04 am] Mitch K: be flexible with price on WCG long, seems stuck but no sell signal yet

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[07:05 am] Mitch K: or most of it

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[07:05 am] Mitch K: yes consider selling AAP

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[07:05 am] Mitch K: AAP might be topping

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[07:05 am] Ed : monitoring  ALXN see if we get one more push towards high

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[07:06 am] Mitch K: sell signal on AAP

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[07:06 am] Mitch K: ok WCG resuming move up

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[07:07 am] Mitch K: definitely slower today but still very good fishing

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[07:07 am] Mitch K: ZAGG should get over $9 but be flexible with your long

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[07:08 am] Mitch K: MCP resuming uptrend, found it on another chart

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[07:09 am] Mitch K: ZAGG fizzling a little, consider selling most

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[07:09 am] Mitch K: on WPRT short

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[07:09 am] Mitch K: looking for 37.60 on WPRT

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[07:11 am] Mitch K: first short on NILE was excellent, 2nd one should be too

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[07:11 am] Mitch K: watch for 2nd helping short on NILE

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[07:12 am] Mitch K: you know when i say consider selling, something like ZAGG, use limit orders above offer to sell most.  almost all of these stocks you can get better prices

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[07:12 am] Mitch K: ok to sell 1/3rd of 1/2 at market but try not to do everything at market, you are giving up too much money

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[07:13 am] Mitch K: WCG turning down

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[07:14 am] Mitch K: what i am trying to say is not everything we see is a panic buy or a panic sell situation, learn to \\"work your order\\"

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[07:17 am] Mitch K: consider selling V

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[07:17 am] Mitch K: watching ONXX for bottom

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[07:17 am] Mitch K: that and NILE are two best shorts at the moment

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[07:17 am] Mitch K: i missed posting the CTSH short earlier but watch for 2nd helping short soon

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[07:18 am] Mitch K: ZAGG resurging up

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[07:18 am] Mitch K: hope you got that 2% on NFLX short besides 3% long earlier, NFLX over now

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[07:19 am] Mitch K: what i learned int he last 8 months building Lightning system is that the buy and sell signals come later than you think, or later than i thought.

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[07:19 am] Ed : getting pulllback in SPY

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[07:19 am] Mitch K: when i posted ZAGG comment earlier at 709am, that it is fizzling to consider selling most..... there was no sell signal yet.  that was anticipating.  in the long run, best to wait for sell signal and over time that will far outperform than anticipating

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[07:20 am] Mitch K: that is especially true with stocks

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[07:21 am] Mitch K: anyone take LPS long, watch closer to sell soon

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[07:22 am] Mitch K: the WCG chart isnt as good of a short as I like gregs,  something like CTSH is what i like for 2nd helping short or NILE

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[07:23 am] Mitch K: like it is since i started wrirting this

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[07:23 am] Mitch K: NILE was just below 36 and dropped to below 32 on first drop, you look for those

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[07:23 am] Mitch K: on WCG you got a stock that dropped from 62.40 to 55.50 area and only bounced $2 or so and that is not gone up enough to look for short, odds are for the long side to continue moving up

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[07:24 am] Mitch K: on something like WCG, and fact it is a NYSE stock, healthcare, big drop down today from open to low, i\\''d look around 59.50 area

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[07:24 am] Mitch K: gregs, you probably should study fibbonacci theory

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[07:25 am] Mitch K: let me show you what im talking about

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[07:25 am] Mitch K: im saying you will be fighting something like WCG on the short side if you short down so low

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[07:27 am] Mitch K: not comparing the two, just want to watch two at a time

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[07:27 am] Mitch K: chart on left is WCG, chart on right is ZAGG

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[07:28 am] Mitch K: it just dropped $7.50 a share

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[07:28 am] Mitch K: you short down there and odds are bad

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[07:28 am] Mitch K: when you have a deep drop like this from around 63 to 55.40, you dont want to be too eager to short soon like where you were saying WCG is a good short

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[07:29 am] Mitch K: and it only bounced up $2

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[07:30 am] Mitch K: also, i see you are talking about trading using tick charts, thats really tough going using tick charts, gets very confusing switching back and forth.  easy to become a mental case after an hour or two

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[07:31 am] Mitch K: its not a sustainable lifestyle let alone it is NOT near as profitable.  i think it is a myth, a misconception about what good trading is about

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[07:31 am] Mitch K: guys, let me say, with intent of helping, not trying to beat you up... but trading doesnt have to be a nail biting, stressful job all 6.5 hours a day.

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[07:33 am] Mitch K: SYNA turnign over nicely now

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[07:34 am] Mitch K: its SYNA, SYnaptics

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[07:34 am] Mitch K: you can have periods of trading where it is time sensitive and you have to be decisive and move quickly but

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[07:35 am] Mitch K: i dont know what your opinions are but this week is one of the best day trading weeks in a year, for sure

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[07:35 am] Mitch K: i havent been watching SINA yet

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[07:36 am] Mitch K: for sure it is computer generated orders.  when i watch how many stocks are coming across the various scanners i use, it was really unusual the first 30 min

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[07:36 am] Mitch K: im not totally sure what is happening to cause such volatility.  i dont buy the story that it is all KNight Trading\\''s doing.  stocks are over exaggerated moves, which is what we want in order ot make money

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[07:37 am] Mitch K: on MOnday, i thought something may be wrong with internet or datafeed but all datafeeds kept showing same and internet speed was over 50 mbps download speed

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[07:37 am] Mitch K: first 10 min, i knew it was same as THursday, Wednesday, Tuesday.  i noticed a pattern change on Monday morning

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[07:38 am] Mitch K: nothing big, no big positions gregs, best to be on simulator when starting out

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[07:38 am] Mitch K: consider selling DLB, watch for short, quick one, try 32.80 area

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[07:39 am] Mitch K: important point on CTSH if it goes to new highs for day or turns over

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[07:39 am] Mitch K: in that first 30 min, if you are proficient at trading now, you can take more of a shotgun approach going after more ideas.  RIght now, an hour later, i like to take rifle approach with good scope, sniper style trading

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[07:44 am] Ed : getting pullback in SPY

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[07:48 am] Ed : good eye murano on SWN

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[07:49 am] Ed : watching SWN for bounce

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[07:50 am] Mitch K: same with LPS

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[07:50 am] Mitch K: consider covering DLB if you took the short on top of bounce

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[07:59 am] Ed : dont like how its trading, did that to get ahead of trade

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[07:59 am] Mitch K: can you guys answer this poll really quick?

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[07:59 am] Ed : I reduced 3/4 SWN long

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[08:00 am] Mitch K: or did they go to work already

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[08:00 am] Mitch K: i kept thinking most people lived on east coast

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[08:01 am] Mitch K: ok thanks

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[08:09 am] Mitch K: this is why i asked you what time zone because this chart is EUR/USDollar and gets active very early in morning

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[08:10 am] Mitch K: hodl times are 20-30 min and not near as critical on execution

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[08:10 am] Mitch K: these are big moves and the hold times are longer so not psycho trading like CL (Crude oil) can be

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[08:10 am] Mitch K: i cant trade at 4am pacific time but you eastern and central guys can handle that

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[08:12 am] Mitch K: if you are blind, that will be impossible but being deaf can still work

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[08:12 am] Mitch K: if you are deaf, that will be harder because you wont hear the sounds

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[08:12 am] Mitch K: and this is one thing you can multi task really well, as long as you have hearing

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[08:12 am] Mitch K: that is profit on 1 contract

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[08:13 am] Mitch K: and you wont get a lot of \\"false signals\\"  and the few that i see are tiny profits to breakeven

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[08:14 am] Mitch K: you dont have to know a lot about forex except how to set up your order screen, get correct pair loaded in order field, how many contracts, buy on green arrow/sound and sell on red

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[08:15 am] Mitch K: but it wont take much adjustment to fit it in with yoru stocks.  i think with this system, stocks will become much more profitable but you can add another financial instrument, like this pair here, EUR/USD and do very very well in addition to stocks

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[08:16 am] Mitch K: let\\''s be real truthful here, what we need is more ideas after that first 90 minutes, you agree?  and thats the beauty about this

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[08:17 am] Mitch K: CL (crude oil) has been dead for weeks, hard to concentrate so we switch up and find whats moving and tradable

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[08:17 am] Mitch K: its not that i dont want to talk to you all day but i\\''d rather talk when we have good trades going

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[08:19 am] Mitch K: those green adn red arrows are embedded in candles, working on that

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[08:20 am] Mitch K: you have other charts open anyhow on instruments and you will find out from others in the trading room what is moving anyhow

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[08:20 am] Mitch K: so if something slows down like EUro is a little slow this last 40 min, switch up

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[08:22 am] Mitch K: you guys think you can handle this?

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[08:23 am] Mitch K: but you go by sound anyhow

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[08:23 am] Mitch K: so the arrows show up here, same exact chart as before, GOld

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[08:23 am] Mitch K: you can adjust the arrows, same chart but im trying to make it so you dont have to adjust anything

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[08:24 am] Mitch K: then look at chart

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[08:24 am] Mitch K: then look on this alert window

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[08:24 am] Mitch K: since you have alot of charts open you cant spend time looking around for which chart gave the signal so dont look for visual arrow first, go for sound

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[08:24 am] Mitch K: again, so whatever chart you have open will give signals and show up here with sound

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[08:25 am] Mitch K: i will show you how to use this

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[08:27 am] Mitch K: just try to use this tool to improve your workflow, and rely on procedures that are easily repeatable.  WOn\\''t require as much thinking, virtually no interpretation of indicators.  IMPORTANT:  Anytime you change your procedures, or use no indicators, charts or a system like this, you must use a simulator to practice.  i think about 3-4 weeks for most people will be enough time to adapt

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[08:28 am] Mitch K: how do you safely make more money in our business?

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[08:28 am] Mitch K: like ive mentioned before, this increases the amount of positions you can manage and let the odds play out by following signals.  I will show you in webinar and seminar how to trade stocks, futures, forex using this tool.

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[08:29 am] Mitch K: you put more money in same idea, your risk goes up.  this method your risk goes down and income goes up with higher odds of winning

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[08:29 am] Mitch K: ANSWER:  managing more positions, not more money in same idea

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[08:34 am] Mitch K: what do you think your emotional state will be like when you stop doing bad behavior of putting high amounts of money in one stock in proportion to your account size and divide it up to  5-6 stocks at a time?  with the 5 open positions very likely being more profitable.  lower stress, more sustainable lifestyle, easier steps to manage.

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[08:36 am] Mitch K: instead of feeling like you missed out on that one good trade idea you didnt take . . . . your mindset becomes you know you will have a few more ideas come along to open and this allows you to make profits on stocks that were difficult to make profits from manually.

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[08:44 am] Mitch K: on left

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August 3, 2012

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User Chat

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[06:19 am] mikewd2 -: your right

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[06:20 am] doji  : But the bid/ask is 18.01/20.60... big spread

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[06:20 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, that\\''s typical

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[06:20 am] mikewd2 -: earnings on the 8th

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[06:22 am] doji  : Crude at 90

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[06:22 am] totora  : can u see pre market in Tradestation ??

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[06:22 am] mikewd2 -: yes

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[06:22 am] Ed : yes

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[06:23 am] mikewd2 -: under the sessions button

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[06:23 am] doji  : KCG moving

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[06:23 am] mikewd2 -: you can select what timeframe

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[06:23 am] mikewd2 -: go KCG go

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[06:24 am] Ed : click on any chart at top u will see 2 clocks click on one on left and u will see the intervals

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[06:24 am] doji  : LNKD going higher today. Doesn\\''t i have a P/E fo around 400?

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[06:24 am] doji  : Thanks Mitch

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[06:25 am] totora  : thx got it

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[06:25 am] joeytsa  : p/e means nothign to traders

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[06:26 am] doji  : I agree Joey, just trying to show LNKD P/E vs. FB P/E (~75)

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[06:26 am] totora  : P/E  physical exercise...

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[06:26 am] joeytsa  : gota doji

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[06:26 am] Ed : hey joey I know u are but what am I

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[06:27 am] joeytsa  : obama just called me..he said I didnt trade that  haha

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[06:27 am] Ed : lol

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[06:27 am] mikewd2 -: nice move in SNE this morning

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[06:27 am] doji  : Joesy, tell Obama to stope making up the job numbers please

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[06:27 am] mikewd2 -: still long from 11.02 from yesterday

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[06:27 am] skydiver  : gm all

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[06:27 am] rusty  : gm

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[06:27 am] joeytsa  : he will in 3 months

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[06:27 am] rusty  : watching ROSG

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[06:28 am] doji  : LNKD, APPL, SLB all moving high in the last minutes

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[06:28 am] doji  : Buy, buy, buy.... hahaha

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[06:29 am] doji  : That is probably what Crammer will yell today

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[06:30 am] rusty  : shorting WFM into strength

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[06:31 am] mikewd2 -: KCG secured financing

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[06:31 am] rusty  : covered remainder of TLT from yesterday +2

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[06:32 am] skydiver  : monitoring CRM - missed the short

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[06:32 am] rusty  : shorting SHW into strength

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[06:33 am] skydiver  : 3/4 out of CRM L

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[06:34 am] doji  : All out KCG L

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[06:34 am] mikewd2 -: out KCG 3.43 plus $1

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[06:34 am] mikewd2 -: me too doji

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[06:34 am] doji  : hahah right at the top Mike on KCH

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[06:34 am] doji  : KCG

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[06:34 am] doji  : Seems they were waiting for your oder to reverse

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[06:34 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, it hit me i hard target in when i bought

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[06:34 am] skydiver  : nice mike and doji

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[06:34 am] mikewd2 -: i know, got lucky

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[06:35 am] skydiver  : all out of CRM L

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[06:36 am] skydiver  : LNKD still climbing

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[06:37 am] doji  : LNKD S

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[06:38 am] mikewd2 -: no shares SRZ at TS

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[06:38 am] totora  : no shares to short wWPRT

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[06:38 am] skydiver  : none at lightspeed either mike on SRZ

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[06:39 am] mikewd2 -: should be a good short then sky - haha

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[06:39 am] skydiver  : :)

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[06:39 am] totora  : I wanted to short 4 stocks and none available

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[06:39 am] mikewd2 -: Ed, what\\''s the word on the prop firm?

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[06:40 am] cdougan  : Watching MCP

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[06:41 am] doji  : NFLX new lod

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[06:42 am] rusty  : covered SHW

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[06:44 am] doji  : AAPL double top

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[06:44 am] doji  : Watching FSLR

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[06:44 am] totora  : trying to short NFLX 3 days and no shares

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[06:44 am] skydiver  : DLB - monitoring

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[06:44 am] mikewd2 -: MCP still falling

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[06:45 am] joeytsa  : lightspeed has NFLX shorts

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[06:45 am] murano  : WAG

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[06:46 am] doji  : SPY hod

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[06:46 am] skydiver  : L MCP 12.66

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[06:47 am] joeytsa  : nice trades today

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[06:47 am] doji  : Nice Joey

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[06:47 am] doji  : still wtching

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[06:47 am] skydiver  : out 1/2 MCP L

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[06:47 am] skydiver  : out another 1/4 MCP L

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[06:48 am] shark  : consider options totora - NFLX

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[06:48 am] joeytsa  : OPEN just beautiful

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[06:48 am] joeytsa  : tighten if long

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[06:48 am] mikewd2 -: nice one joey

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[06:48 am] doji  : ?

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[06:49 am] doji  : VIAG?

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[06:50 am] joeytsa  : watching EOG @ 105

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[06:51 am] apple  : good morning all

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[06:51 am] skydiver  : gm apple

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[06:51 am] joeytsa  : hi apple

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[06:52 am] apple  : hey sky

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[06:52 am] apple  : hey joey

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[06:52 am] apple  : gm doji

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[06:52 am] apple  : gm mike

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[06:52 am] rusty  : FSLR lod

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[06:52 am] skydiver  : stopped out of my last 1/4 of MCP

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[06:53 am] skydiver  : L

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[06:53 am] rusty  : covered remainder of FSLR from yesterday

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[06:54 am] joeytsa  : ISM non-manufacturing pmi in a few minutes

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[06:54 am] skydiver  : CRM slow climb

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[06:54 am] joeytsa  : yeah sky, i stayed away

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[06:54 am] skydiver  : good wisdom joey

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[06:55 am] skydiver  : too many other better ideas

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[06:55 am] joeytsa  : not sure about that, missed a decent slow climb haha

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[06:55 am] aussie123  : LEN

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[06:55 am] skydiver  : :)

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[06:55 am] joeytsa  : DLB still making lower highs

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[06:56 am] skydiver  : thnx Mitch - on SYNA info

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[06:56 am] joeytsa  : thanks Mitch

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[06:56 am] skydiver  : glad I had a tight stop on my MCP L on final 1/4 position -

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[06:57 am] joeytsa  : smart :)

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[06:57 am] mikewd2 -: SYNA S

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[06:57 am] rusty  : sold SAN from yesterday +1/2

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[06:57 am] joeytsa  : BIDU/AMZN testing resistance

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[06:58 am] skydiver  : nice rusty

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[07:00 am] apple  : very nice rusty

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[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: great, just went long on MCP 12.50

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[07:00 am] mikewd2 -: haha

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[07:00 am] joeytsa  : better ISM #

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[07:01 am] gregs  : ATVI, should i scale final 1/4?

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[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: covered SYNA short, thanks Mitch

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[07:01 am] doji  : At this pace we\\''ll end up with the SPX at 1400 today

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[07:02 am] doji  : Watching FSLR

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[07:03 am] apple  : ES over 1385

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[07:03 am] doji  : Addind to my short in FB

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[07:03 am] mikewd2 -: could be good doji, if it breaks 20

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[07:04 am] doji  : I shorted it at 20.5

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[07:04 am] murano  : ZAGG

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[07:05 am] apple  : thx murano

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[07:06 am] mikewd2 -: KCG gave another nice move up and i missed it

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[07:06 am] doji  : KCG double top

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[07:07 am] rusty  : so now we know why market AND vix were down yesterday

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[07:07 am] doji  : AAP Short

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[07:07 am] doji  : LEN

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[07:07 am] mikewd2 -: added to MCP long 12.75

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[07:08 am] apple  : ES hit 1387

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[07:08 am] gregs  : i need another fish!

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[07:09 am] joeytsa  : better grab another worm :)

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[07:09 am] gregs  : hehe :)

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[07:09 am] shark  : FB retesting 20 area

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[07:10 am] doji  : Shark!

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[07:10 am] doji  : FB needs to break 20

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[07:10 am] rusty  : needs?

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[07:11 am] shark  : hi doji!

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[07:11 am] doji  : Needs if you want to profit on the short side

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[07:12 am] apple  : thx for the reminder MK

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[07:13 am] apple  : hey shark

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[07:13 am] joeytsa  : right Mitch

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[07:15 am] shark  : hi apple :)

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[07:15 am] qwert  : monitoring yum

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[07:17 am] qwert  : no nile at lightspeed

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[07:18 am] shark  : got the NFLX,  Mitch, thx!

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[07:20 am] gregs  : another buy on NFLX?  hm

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[07:20 am] shark  : PCLN at hod

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[07:20 am] gregs  : stoch crossover, macd bottom, impulse move up

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[07:20 am] Mitch K: move on to another stock gregs, forget NFLX

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[07:20 am] gregs  : kk :)

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[07:21 am] gregs  : WCG short working

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[07:22 am] rusty  : LOGM radar

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[07:22 am] apple  : MELI nice move up today

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[07:22 am] shark  : yeah, apple

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[07:22 am] akram  : yes

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[07:23 am] rusty  : LOGM alert

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[07:23 am] apple  : thx rusty

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[07:23 am] gregs  : 50t

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[07:24 am] gregs  : got it, will definitely do some reading...

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[07:25 am] joeytsa  : trading stocks on tick charts can be a bit tricky also

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[07:25 am] shark  : nice, Mitch

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[07:25 am] apple  : what timeframe joey

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[07:25 am] joeytsa  : he said 50T

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[07:26 am] gregs  : sure, i\\''m all ears

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[07:26 am] gregs  : especially after that short blew by my entry

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[07:27 am] apple  : nice MK

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[07:28 am] shark  : cool, MK

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[07:28 am] gregs  : joey, yes that was for a tick chart... which can definitely be dangerous... overtrading and premature exits

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[07:28 am] joeytsa  : thats what i mean greg

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[07:29 am] gregs  : think i should switch to minute charts after 30m

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[07:30 am] apple  : i have been using 500, 1000 and 4500 tick charts on the ES

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[07:30 am] gregs  : mitch, would you say the 50% level is much better odds then?

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[07:31 am] joeytsa  : yeah apple, tick charts are cool with ES

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[07:31 am] gregs  : joey, do you use tick charts?

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[07:31 am] joeytsa  : only on ES/CL

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[07:32 am] apple  : made sense to me, but mostly looking at the 5 min

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[07:32 am] shark  : AAPL testing hod

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[07:32 am] apple  : i agree MK, we make it more difficult than we need to

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