Chat Highlights From 08/02/2012

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[07:24 am] Mitch K: watching WAG for bottom
[07:26 am] Mitch K: watching ACTG again for bottom, no hurry
[07:27 am] Mitch K: watching PXP for short here again
[07:27 am] Mitch K: there is something else going on besides Knight capitals software bug, i first though rebalancing, still could be but not sure
[07:27 am] Mitch K: the tops of the bounces are giving good shorts, like yesterday and day before
[07:28 am] Mitch K: consider selling WTW if long
[07:29 am] Mitch K: more downside on CTXS
[07:30 am] Mitch K: watching ELLI again for short
[07:30 am] Mitch K: getting early sell signal on GILD
[07:34 am] Mitch K: watching SM for short here
[07:48 am] Mitch K: or long
[07:48 am] Mitch K: this is KCG, you can see the buy after that drop, it failed withonly a 5-7 cent move, then gave a sell signal soon, which can be used for a stop loss, then dropped to 3.15 and gave a buy to cover
[07:48 am] Mitch K: i have needed to use all the charts i can find today, needed more space than normal
[07:52 am] Mitch K: or sell high buy lower
[07:52 am] Mitch K: buy low, sell high
[07:52 am] Mitch K: nothing too mysterious about forex using this, its same as other stuff, buy, sell
[07:52 am] Mitch K: Lightning kicking butt on Euro vs US DOllar again.  been happening for at least a week like this
[07:53 am] Mitch K: and you can see it is slower trading, easier to trade, not hyper speed or anything
[07:54 am] Mitch K: i need my charts back guys, i need the real estate
[07:55 am] Mitch K: you can see last two alerts were sells on EUro and ES
[07:57 am] Mitch K: buy signal Eur, that covers a short or long entry
[07:58 am] Mitch K: MT is that steel company
[07:59 am] Mitch K: cant see the red arrow well but it is buried under candle, we are trying to fix that
[08:00 am] Mitch K: but you go by audio anyhow, look visually later
[08:00 am] Mitch K: you only get a signal if you have a chart open for that symbol.
[08:02 am] Mitch K: did the ECB Draghi say something, Euro dumping
[08:05 am] Mitch K: got a buy signal on MT
[08:07 am] Mitch K: so far MT has weak bounce, thats been the pattern with MT though for months
[08:07 am] Mitch K: missed LPSN bottom but monitoring for top; take time, no hurry
[08:07 am] Mitch K: watching HOTT
[08:10 am] Mitch K: watching PH for bottom
[08:10 am] Mitch K: i need my charts back guys, sorry
[08:11 am] Mitch K: take time
[08:46 am] Mitch K: watching TRMB for bottom
[08:46 am] Mitch K: watching BBBY for bottom to buy,
[08:47 am] Mitch K: missed SMBL top, watched most of morning
[08:51 am] Mitch K: watching VRX for bottom to cover short
[08:55 am] Mitch K: the next VRX bottom should have a tradable bounce long
[09:52 am] Mitch K: how did you guys do with the BBG trade, the long and hopefully the short
[09:56 am] Mitch K: volume really dried up last 45 min
[10:30 am] Ed : monitoring SEE
[10:32 am] Ed : still weak so far
[10:43 am] Ed : reducing some SEE long
[10:54 am] Ed : SPY trading in tight range
[10:58 am] Ed : watching NAV for potential bounce
[10:59 am] Ed : thats on NAV
[10:59 am] Ed : @ or  near 20.23 see how reacts
[10:59 am] Ed : would like a move to low 20 area
[11:04 am] Ed : stocks also affected NAV, CMI, PCAR
[11:06 am] Ed : if u took NAV lon would reduce some here
[11:08 am] Ed : but as always be flexible
[11:08 am] Ed : on NAV long
[11:08 am] Ed : lookinf for 21.17 next area on NAV
[11:10 am] Ed : out all NAV long 21.17
[11:14 am] Ed : test
[11:34 am] Ed : getting some buying in markets
[11:52 am] Ed : BAS alert
[11:55 am] Ed : if u shorted BAS would cover
[12:53 pm] Ed : getting sublt bounce in SPY
[12:58 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: review your charts tonight, we should have similar action tomorrow
[12:59 pm] Mitch K: later guys
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: got to be ready in first few minutes of opening for about 1 hour, best ideas in first hour

[07:30 am] skydiver  : thnx joey - you're right
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : doji: as far as thoughts, none really, just see what it does from here
[07:32 am] mikewd2 -: stopped WTW +1.80
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : nice mike, its been $$ all morning
[07:32 am] skydiver  : nice mike
[07:32 am] apple  : nicce mike, how was your vacation?  missed you
[07:32 am] gregs  : nice mike
[07:32 am] rusty  : WFM radar
[07:32 am] mikewd2 -: first trade
[07:33 am] mikewd2 -: great apple, jamaica is always awesome
[07:33 am] doji  : Thanks Joey
[07:33 am] apple  : haven't lost your touch
[07:33 am] rusty  : MITCH Please put KCG back up on LIGHTNING
[07:33 am] doji  : Trading from Jamaica Mike?
[07:33 am] mikewd2 -: haha - was alot more patient this morning so far
[07:33 am] apple  : never been there. need to go
[07:33 am] joeytsa  : smart plan
[07:33 am] mikewd2 -: our 5th time
[07:33 am] apple  : patience is a great virtue in trading (and life)
[07:33 am] mikewd2 -: adding to SNE long
[07:33 am] rusty  : MITCH Please put KCG back up on LIGHTNING
[07:34 am] mikewd2 -: 11.02
[07:34 am] doji  : I think the strike was too damaging on Lightning Rusty
[07:34 am] rusty  : lol
[07:34 am] doji  : On SNE L Mike?
[07:34 am] mikewd2 -: yes
[07:35 am] doji  : Thanks!
[07:35 am] apple  : haha, funny doji
[07:35 am] doji  : Where is Ed "Monster Calls" today?
[07:36 am] doji  : on vacation too?
[07:36 am] apple  : MK said he would be in later today
[07:37 am] skydiver  : IPO - ILOQ - opens at 10:40am Eastern
[07:37 am] skydiver  : ELOQ - sorry
[07:37 am] apple  : thx sky
[07:39 am] rusty  : $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$MITCH PLEASE TURN ON KCG LIGHTNING  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
[07:39 am] apple  : hope he hears you screaming rusty, lol
[07:39 am] gregs  : need rain dance before lightning
[07:40 am] doji  : KCG at lod
[07:40 am] apple  : haha greg
[07:40 am] doji  : $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$MITCH PLEASE TURN ON KCG LIGHTNING  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
[07:40 am] scalpman  : GMCR S @ 22.85  target 22.25
[07:42 am] apple  : maybe the doji echo will help
[07:42 am] rusty  : covered WFM scalp
[07:42 am] gregs  : watching GILD
[07:42 am] scalpman  : goodj job rusty
[07:43 am] rusty  : was Mitch hit by LIGHTNING?
[07:44 am] apple  : maybe
[07:46 am] joeytsa  : break time, very nice morning :)
[07:46 am] skydiver  : have a good break joey - yes - nice morning :)
[07:47 am] apple  : finally
[07:47 am] doji  : Lightning is alive!
[07:48 am] apple  : time delay
[07:48 am] rusty  : TAKE KCG DOWN - PUT SOMETHNIG ELSE UP
[07:48 am] apple  : haha
[07:48 am] mikewd2 -: i went long 3.20 without lightning
[07:48 am] rusty  : amen mike
[07:48 am] rusty  : phuk lightning
[07:48 am] rusty  : oooops
[07:49 am] apple  : good for you mike, we will follow you...
[07:50 am] doji  : Thanks Mike Lightning
[07:50 am] doji  : Just send arrows Mike
[07:50 am] doji  : or smoke signals
[07:50 am] skydiver  : ELOQ - IPO - now open
[07:51 am] apple  : thx sky
[07:52 am] apple  : very nice, MK, now we need to trade forex
[07:52 am] khall  : GILD toppy
[07:53 am] apple  : thx khall
[07:53 am] apple  : sky r u going to trade ELOQ
[07:54 am] skydiver  : passing on it apple - not much money that I can see in it
[07:54 am] mikewd2 -: out half KCG 3.55 +10%
[07:54 am] apple  : right, it's always fun to watch what they do tho
[07:54 am] skydiver  : yes
[07:55 am] apple  : excellent mike, you are on your game today
[07:55 am] doji  : SPY droping
[07:55 am] mikewd2 -: not a ton of money on KCG only 2k shares
[07:55 am] skydiver  : thnx doji on SPY
[07:55 am] apple  : and sky i always remember what MK said about the IPOs - wait for that drop...
[07:56 am] skydiver  : yes apple - good wisdom from Mitch
[07:56 am] ben4givn  : MT
[07:56 am] apple  : thx MK
[07:56 am] apple  : thx ben
[07:57 am] mikewd2 -: has jason been around? or is he on vacation also?
[07:57 am] mikewd2 -: has jason been around? or is he on vacation also?
[07:57 am] khall  : Bristol Myers exec arrested for insider trading - bad boy
[07:58 am] apple  : he has been here mike
[07:58 am] skydiver  : another great morning -- have to go - will try to jump on last 90 today -- make lots $$$
[07:58 am] apple  : thx sky have fun
[07:59 am] scalpman  : bye sky
[07:59 am] khall  : see ya later sky
[07:59 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:59 am] apple  : if look look really hard you can see it... like those pictures where you have to find stufff!
[08:00 am] rusty  : Ramnarine, the executive director of pensions and savings investments, made $311,361 in illicit profit, the FBI said.
[08:00 am] apple  : as long as you get the alert...
[08:00 am] rusty  : wonder if he shorted BMY yesterday too
[08:00 am] rusty  : http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-02/b ristol-myers-executive-ramnarine-charged-with -insider-trading
[08:00 am] apple  : probably, thx rusty
[08:01 am] khall  : I doubt a jail sentence will be worth the 300k
[08:02 am] apple  : well as long as we can hear and see, we will be fine....
[08:02 am] scalpman  : S PXP @ 40.49 target 39.91
[08:05 am] apple  : thx MK
[08:05 am] rusty  : added to TLT short
[08:09 am] rusty  : DJ Knight Sale Seen Difficult; Price Seen Depressed -Fox Business's Gasparino
[08:09 am] ben4givn  : stopped out MT twice already!
[08:09 am] mikewd2 -: stopped on MT, not liking lightning so far
[08:10 am] eddy  : stopped on mt in 14.75 stopped 14.57
[08:10 am] eddy  : nt gd
[08:10 am] rusty  : Please take Lightning down
[08:10 am] rusty  : ?
[08:12 am] gregs  : bad idea to short FSLR at 18.33?  seemed like a nice triangle consolidation
[08:12 am] gregs  : i'm in, just wondering when to hop out
[08:14 am] scalpman  : GMCR attempting new hod
[08:14 am] mikewd2 -: SNE lod
[08:14 am] apple  : FSLR made a nice L at the open, greg and a good short at about 10:30 looking at a 5 min chart
[08:15 am] scalpman  : stopped on PXP b.e.
[08:16 am] gregs  : apple, those were probably the best times, maybe overtrading now
[08:16 am] apple  : looking at AFL
[08:16 am] apple  : sit on hands!
[08:17 am] gregs  : sitting on hands :)
[08:17 am] gregs  : not giving away profits
[08:17 am] apple  : good, smart guy!
[08:18 am] gregs  : was anyone able to get the FSLR long?
[08:18 am] apple  : i bet doji did!
[08:18 am] gregs  : this person would blow my mind
[08:19 am] gregs  : first step to learning haha
[08:19 am] rusty  : shorting KCG pops continues to work
[08:20 am] rusty  : TLT hod
[08:22 am] scalpman  : L PH @ 76.47
[08:22 am] scalpman  : target 77.04
[08:23 am] scalpman  : Sell 1/3 PH L
[08:23 am] scalpman  : moving up stopp to B.e.
[08:24 am] scalpman  : PH next target 77.60
[08:25 am] scalpman  : positive thinking
[08:26 am] scalpman  : that's PHositive
[08:26 am] apple  : haha
[08:26 am] rusty  : First Solar's (FSLR +24.5%) skyrockets after a strong Q2 report that featured improving margins and receivables. Four firms are upgrading - among them is Cantor, which is now more confident about FSLR's ability to transition to a construction-focused business model. However, Deutsche and Needham express worries about the profitability of construction deals, and ongoing weakness in sales for 3rd-party installations. 55.8% of FSLR's float was shorted as of July 13.
[08:27 am] gregs  : wow
[08:28 am] apple  : thx rusty
[08:29 am] victor51  : PH long 76.62
[08:29 am] gregs  : CLF near lod... still sitting on hands tho :)
[08:30 am] gregs  : 40 looks like major level to me
[08:31 am] scalpman  : sell another 1/3  PH L
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : ES down 3pts past few minutes
[08:33 am] scalpman  : trailing up last stop PH L
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : did anyone get that RIG short?
[08:37 am] scalpman  : selling all out on PH L
[08:37 am] scalpman  : good one...thanks Mitch
[08:38 am] scalpman  : I forget I was GMCR S @ 23.33
[08:38 am] apple  : ES nearing lod
[08:38 am] scalpman  : selling 1/2 GMCR S
[08:38 am] apple  : you are still ok scalp
[08:39 am] scalpman  : 2%
[08:39 am] scalpman  : I'm a dunce...
[08:39 am] joeytsa  : haha
[08:39 am] khall  : Here I thought I was the only one that did that....
[08:39 am] scalpman  : ha ....
[08:39 am] apple  : no, you are letting the trades work...
[08:39 am] doji  : Back from my daily work. Is Lightening alive?
[08:39 am] scalpman  : Yeah, that's the ticket!
[08:40 am] qwert  : hahaha
[08:40 am] scalpman  : GMCR may break more...
[08:40 am] khall  : no GMCR short at IB
[08:40 am] khall  : CLF broke $40
[08:40 am] scalpman  : support at 22.45ish
[08:41 am] doji  : SPY at lod...
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : doji: looks like that earlier 50% ES retracement was big resistance
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : made a dbl top there..around 1370
[08:43 am] apple  : how low can you go?
[08:44 am] joeytsa  : 1330 would be the big number
[08:44 am] joeytsa  : not saying it will
[08:44 am] scalpman  : Covering another 1/4 GMCR S
[08:45 am] rusty  : adding some more to TLT short swing
[08:45 am] rusty  : 1/3 position again
[08:46 am] apple  : thx rusty
[08:47 am] doji  : RUsty, are you betting on a pull back on the market?
[08:48 am] rusty  : short  TLT is a more bullish than bearish
[08:48 am] rusty  : although I am short a number of retailers and other stocks
[08:50 am] doji  : I should have said a reboud on the market as TLT moves on the opposite of market's direction
[08:55 am] joeytsa  : khall: did you get CLF, made a nice move on that loss of $40
[08:57 am] doji  : FB approaching 20
[08:57 am] doji  : would it lose it?
[08:57 am] khall  : nope -sure didn't
[08:57 am] doji  : tatatannnnnn
[08:58 am] joeytsa  : me iether, just saw it
[08:58 am] gregs  : VRX making nice run down
[09:00 am] doji  : VRX L 47.12
[09:01 am] doji  : stop at b/e
[09:09 am] victor51  : scalp, still holding PH??
[09:09 am] apple  : maybe we
[09:09 am] apple  : are seeing a noon reversal?
[09:11 am] doji  : Falling asleep
[09:12 am] doji  : FB
[09:12 am] scalpman  : no got stopped at b.e on the last piece
[09:13 am] doji  : Seeing huge orders at FB=20
[09:14 am] scalpman  : time to go..one of my best days ever....very happy.
[09:15 am] scalpman  : very green.
[09:15 am] scalpman  : I'm off tomorrow...see you monday.
[09:15 am] gregs  : happy for you scalpman, congrats
[09:15 am] victor51  : Nice scalp. Was it KCG trade?
[09:15 am] doji  : Trailing VRX L
[09:15 am] joeytsa  : nice scalp
[09:15 am] scalpman  : thanks gregs...Thanks mitch for KCG and Joey for GMCR
[09:15 am] khall  : great going scalp
[09:15 am] apple  : congrats scalp - take the day off tomorrow!
[09:16 am] scalpman  : thanks apple kahll
[09:16 am] scalpman  : Scalpman has left the building!
[09:16 am] doji  : How much is Very Green Scalpy? Like 1,000,000
[09:16 am] scalpman  : $$$$
[09:16 am] apple  : doji, you always make me laugh
[09:16 am] apple  : great for you scalp!
[09:16 am] scalpman  : Thanks...bye all
[09:16 am] scalpman  : Scalpman has left the building!
[09:16 am] doji  : Ok 9,999
[09:17 am] scalpman  : I wish....
[09:17 am] doji  : or 1,000?
[09:17 am] scalpman  : ok 2$$$
[09:17 am] doji  : VRX waking up
[09:17 am] doji  : ok 2,000
[09:17 am] apple  : doji, how about you?
[09:18 am] doji  : Like $.$$$$$$$$
[09:18 am] apple  : haha
[09:18 am] apple  : we'll get there soon enough!
[09:18 am] apple  : oh, didn't see the decimal, sorry!
[09:18 am] doji  : Just only 563 today
[09:18 am] mikewd2 -: doji, what is your target on VRX?
[09:18 am] rusty  : JPM negative on FSLR
[09:18 am] apple  : not bad
[09:19 am] doji  : 47.6 Mike
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: ok, i had 47.55
[09:19 am] rusty  : FSLR - outperformance is overdone and we think this is a good place to short it. Expect it to be used as a source of funds by vanillas and stock should sell off   JPM
[09:20 am] doji  : Thanks apple, not bad for a couple of trades... the 3rd one is VRX
[09:21 am] doji  : What about you Apple?
[09:23 am] doji  : Apple, stop counting your cash....
[09:24 am] apple  : i wish doji, 2600
[09:25 am] mikewd2 -: nice apple
[09:25 am] doji  : Very nice Apple, I am glad for you
[09:25 am] joeytsa  : there ya go !!!!
[09:25 am] mikewd2 -: jason been around?
[09:25 am] apple  : now, i do have to go... i have a class.  thx MK and everyone.  all have a fun evening. see you all tomorrow.
[09:26 am] apple  : yes mike, he just might not be here today
[09:26 am] joeytsa  : bye apple
[09:26 am] eddy  : bye apple
[09:26 am] doji  : In 23 years when I retire and dedicate my full time to trading I hope making not less that 5K/day.... hahaha
[09:26 am] doji  : Apple, still attending Kinder?
[09:26 am] doji  : GMCR
[09:29 am] mikewd2 -: doji, tired of VRX dumped for small profit
[09:29 am] doji  : Still holding VRX, no hurry
[09:29 am] doji  : KCG
[09:30 am] khall  : how low will it go?
[09:30 am] doji  : Watching SLB
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: there talking on CNBC fastmoney about KCG
[09:31 am] doji  : Watching KCG
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: KCG L 2.98 - will try again on it
[09:31 am] doji  : SPY dropping
[09:32 am] doji  : Mike, I am amazed how you get filled at 1c/2c at the high/low
[09:32 am] doji  : Need to trade along with you for sure
[09:33 am] mikewd2 -: i had the price in mind and entered it
[09:33 am] rusty  : http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-septemb er-30-2009/cash-cow---high-frequency-trading< br>[09:34 am] mikewd2 -: Ed must be here now
[09:35 am] Ed : hey guys//gals
[09:35 am] khall  : HI ED
[09:35 am] eddy  : hey ed
[09:35 am] rusty  : hi Ed
[09:35 am] Ed : looks like a fun market today
[09:36 am] rusty  : we missed you.   mitch was hit by lightning
[09:36 am] qwert  : monitoring ACTG
[09:36 am] Ed : 2 funny
[09:36 am] doji  : Hi ED!!!!!
[09:36 am] qwert  : HiEd
[09:36 am] Ed : welcome back doji
[09:37 am] doji  : Thanks "My Man"... hahaha
[09:37 am] Ed : :)
[09:38 am] qwert  : AMZN at double bottom
[09:38 am] eddy  : mike still in KCG?
[09:38 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, tried for 3.22 8% profit but didn't hit it
[09:39 am] doji  : Draghi "draghing" the market?
[09:39 am] mikewd2 -: there we go out half
[09:40 am] doji  : Nice on KCG Mike
[09:40 am] mikewd2 -: i wasn't going to trade these low priced stocks anymore but ...
[09:40 am] mikewd2 -: only doing 2k shares though
[09:41 am] Ed : man that stock really got sliced
[09:41 am] doji  : Be back in 15min
[09:43 am] rusty  : pls bring us back some french fries
[09:45 am] mikewd2 -: adding to my long position in CJES 18.23
[09:45 am] mikewd2 -: earnings Aug 8th
[09:52 am] rusty  : WSH radar
[09:52 am] rusty  : analyst downgrade
[09:53 am] gregs  : totally missed BBG mitch, nice swings though
[09:54 am] gregs  : 100t
[09:54 am] gregs  : oops
[09:57 am] qwert  : GMCR triple top at hod
[09:59 am] mikewd2 -: watching KCG for another long entry
[10:00 am] doji  : aorund 2.6 would be nice
[10:01 am] mikewd2 -: tried for 2.97 and didn't get it
[10:02 am] doji  : FB moving... trying to keep 20
[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: doji, you trading any of the oils
[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: added to my CJES longs at 18.23, earnings the 8th.
[10:03 am] doji  : No Mike, although SLB L and the S would have been nice
[10:03 am] doji  : Just day trading with oils stocks, no swings
[10:03 am] mikewd2 -: i'm definitely not has loaded with oils as i was
[10:12 am] rusty  : covered TLT scalp...have core short position
[10:13 am] qwert  : ACTG back at 24
[10:14 am] rusty  : ARNA alert
[10:37 am] rusty  : ELOQ radar
[10:37 am] rusty  : for you daredevils
[10:38 am] doji  : Mike, missed the rebound in SLB... hahah
[10:42 am] jsn13  : Ed, did u trade SEE?
[10:42 am] Ed : yes entry 1:33
[10:42 am] doji  : I didn't SEE it
[10:43 am] rusty  : MG radar
[10:43 am] jsn13  : ok thanks....signal is the indecision right at 11.50 potential support area? good one....have u reduced some?
[10:44 am] Ed : yes
[10:45 am] jsn13  : thanks even though its weak, u have the edge there when u saw rejection at that level....
[10:45 am] jsn13  : sorry indecision i mean....
[10:45 am] Ed : 11:50 appeared to hold then indecision
[10:46 am] Ed : although I was looking for lower price but was flexible in what action was saying
[10:46 am] jsn13  : agree.. nice and ur potential cost of doing business is reasonable....
[10:47 am] Ed : yes nice observation
[10:47 am] jsn13  : how do u scale out?
[10:47 am] jsn13  : i like those 1% risk trades....
[10:48 am] Ed : Like always 1st aarea of potential resistance/support
[10:49 am] jsn13  : or i should ask how much did u scale out juz now? 3/4? then trail the last 1/4 with 20sma?
[10:49 am] rusty  : ESI radar based on daily chart
[10:50 am] Ed : out 100% on it
[10:50 am] jsn13  : ur thought on that is?
[10:52 am] Ed : none
[10:53 am] jsn13  : haha ok....
[10:53 am] Ed : i go back and forth, the 1 thing I never change is where i take profit
[10:54 am] khall  : okay, they are talking about bogus refund payments made by the IRS to identity theives, but how stupid are they to send multiple refunds to one address?
[10:55 am] jsn13  : but why 100% and not 75% and trail last 25%? i'm very clear with the area that u would exit....but wanna see why u trail some and out 100% on some....
[10:55 am] Ed : no reason, i just do it
[10:56 am] jsn13  : ok thanks....
[10:56 am] khall  : GMCR falling
[10:56 am] doji  : KCG dropping
[10:57 am] Ed : yea really dont have a reason on that, maybe depends on how I feel, will try to monitor next time
[10:57 am] eddy  : KCG  new low
[10:57 am] rusty  : ROSG new lows
[10:57 am] jsn13  : no prob....it's ur instinct....
[10:57 am] rusty  : covered rest of ROSG short
[10:58 am] rusty  : had small amt left
[11:03 am] doji  : KCG at lod
[11:04 am] rusty  : shorting KCG pops working all day
[11:04 am] rusty  : and probablay tomorrow
[11:04 am] rusty  : unless they get lifeline
[11:04 am] rusty  : PCAR radar
[11:11 am] Ed : I broke it up that time jsn
[11:12 am] doji  : Ed, why 20.23 was important of NAV @ 10:59am?
[11:13 am] doji  : Ok that was the low on 6/7, got it1
[11:13 am] jsn13  : thanks ed....good guide...i entered at 20.4 late entry...out 1/4@20.63, 1/2 @ 20.94, last 1/4 @21.05.....thanks ed....
[11:13 am] Ed : I looked back to prev. low area on 6/7/12. So, was looking for test of that area or a break. We got the break by a little but sellers decreased
[11:14 am] Ed : right doji
[11:14 am] doji  : For some reason I am seeing a 1min delays on the posts....
[11:14 am] Ed : not sure why that is
[11:14 am] jsn13  : ed, why is 21.17 ur target?
[11:15 am] doji  : will relaunch
[11:15 am] jsn13  : no delay...
[11:15 am] doji  : Test
[11:15 am] Ed : it was my 2nd target area
[11:15 am] doji  : Test
[11:16 am] jsn13  : as in where u get that as ur target?
[11:16 am] Ed : I had a 3rd but I bailed since stock was up 5% laready from bottom
[11:16 am] eddy  : weird on mny sctreen NAV  is at  21.44 now
[11:17 am] jsn13  : dont look at the money ed....
[11:17 am] jsn13  : haha....
[11:17 am] doji  : You are seeing the future Eddy... nice
[11:17 am] jsn13  : but i'm guilty of that....had my target at 21.57 and i also bailed....
[11:17 am] Ed : I dont, but I also take what market gives me
[11:17 am] doji  : FSLR
[11:18 am] jsn13  : ok thanks ed for the guide....
[11:18 am] qwert  : ed what was your entry price on nav
[11:18 am] doji  : FB on it slow death march to 13
[11:18 am] Ed : 20.21
[11:18 am] qwert  : thx
[11:18 am] eddy  : test
[11:18 am] Ed : i c ya eddy
[11:19 am] doji  : I read on Market Watch that private insvestors cannot sell FB until YE
[11:19 am] doji  : at this pace FB will be less that 10 by YE
[11:21 am] eddy  : i think im laggiong big time
[11:21 am] eddy  : shud nt trade under those conditions
[11:21 am] Ed : were u able to trade NAV eddy?
[11:21 am] Ed : did u trade it qwert?
[11:21 am] qwert  : yep
[11:21 am] Ed : what price
[11:22 am] qwert  : love that chart   entry 20.30
[11:22 am] eddy  : no Ed i have a big net problem
[11:22 am] Ed : nice area qwert
[11:22 am] eddy  : all is lagging
[11:22 am] Ed : yea eddy if ur lagging best to sit on hands
[11:22 am] qwert  : thx Ed
[11:23 am] Ed : It is great pattern, and can make one lot of points
[11:24 am] Ed : missed CMI though
[11:25 am] Ed : PCAR did not bounce as much
[11:29 am] Ed : hey eddy others study this NAV chart, u see how u had sellers in control (note by red candles&amp; vol, then buyers start to come in, bottom is formed and candles turn green
[11:29 am] eddy  : yup saw that
[11:30 am] Ed : lign it up with ur indicators also, and will help as guide
[11:30 am] Ed : THis what Mitch talks about, its not rocket science, but matter of controling emotions and just waiting on a trade setup
[11:31 am] joeytsa  : bottom tail touched support also,%r turned up
[11:31 am] Ed : and of course studying patterns of charts
[11:31 am] Ed : thx sir joey, where u been?
[11:32 am] joeytsa  : i left because you werent here
[11:32 am] joeytsa  : :)
[11:32 am] Ed : lol
[11:32 am] joeytsa  : you know me, i take more breaks than a govt employee
[11:32 am] Ed : and u dont even smoke, so thats a record
[11:32 am] joeytsa  : :)
[11:34 am] doji  : SPY moving
[11:34 am] doji  : SLB has very strong support at 70
[11:35 am] joeytsa  : watching WTW as it approaches $43
[11:37 am] Ed : PCAR finaaly got moving
[11:37 am] rusty  : TLT nice
[11:37 am] aussie123  : very nice Joey
[11:38 am] eddy  : uvxy
[11:38 am] rusty  : covered FSLR
[11:39 am] qwert  : joey you get the long on WTW
[11:39 am] joeytsa  : no hahah
[11:39 am] joeytsa  : but i did sleep at a holiday inn express once  :)
[11:40 am] qwert  : Thx i got small piece
[11:40 am] joeytsa  : good job
[11:40 am] qwert  : hahaha
[11:40 am] Ed : too funny
[11:40 am] qwert  : out now watching for short
[11:42 am] jsn13  : qwert, where is ur entry long on WTW?
[11:43 am] qwert  : very small on break over 43
[11:44 am] jsn13  : cos it broke resistance? was ur entry at 2.36 est?
[11:44 am] qwert  : yes
[11:45 am] joeytsa  : jsn: the real buy rea was before that, i missed it
[11:45 am] joeytsa  : 43 would have been my exit target actually
[11:46 am] jsn13  : ok thanks qwert and joey....
[11:47 am] joeytsa  : you see how it held/tested that 42.41 pivot on pos div on the indis
[11:47 am] qwert  : Jsn thats not my normal trade thats why very small was watching mainly for short but decided to try the breakout
[11:48 am] jsn13  : ya saw nice support at that 42.40 area....
[11:49 am] joeytsa  : yeah and the indi's i have up all were moving higher
[11:49 am] jsn13  : and qwert, i see ur rationale here....
[11:50 am] qwert  : Joey is right better r/r for long at 42.40 area
[11:55 am] skydiver  : thx Ed for BAS
[11:55 am] skydiver  : ok - covering now on BAS
[11:55 am] qwert  : Bas nice thx E
[11:55 am] Ed : nice trading sky
[11:56 am] skydiver  : just got my system up - and saw - executed - and now covered -- :)
[11:56 am] jsn13  : ed, what price did u get for BAS short/
[11:56 am] qwert  : nice sky
[11:56 am] doji  : My entry on BAS was 11.93... too slow connectivity here
[11:56 am] skydiver  : love these lunch breaks :0
[11:56 am] doji  : My confirmation took several seconds....
[11:57 am] Ed : 12.09 out 11.69
[11:58 am] skydiver  : nice Ed -- I caught it a bit late 11.99 out 11.69
[11:58 am] jsn13  : ok thanks ed, how bout ur stop? where was it?
[11:58 am] Ed : still great entry, I went in early based buyers dropping off
[11:59 am] doji  : ED, 12.09 was just on the reversal candle. What was your confirmation signal?
[11:59 am] skydiver  : gotcha  --
[11:59 am] Ed : buyers dropping off
[11:59 am] Ed : It was huuge dropp off
[12:00 pm] Ed : I was using 12.17 as my stop jsn
[12:00 pm] doji  : I see that. Usually I wait until the first reversal candle close to confirm the high has been established
[12:00 pm] skydiver  : be back - have a phone call I have to take
[12:00 pm] qwert  : Monitoring AVD
[12:01 pm] Ed : right, thats best, but one u been doing thiese so many times u pick on patterns, ie buying/sellers. So, I went small and will add on confirmation
[12:01 pm] jsn13  : cool ed....nice...
[12:02 pm] Ed : early but never reckless, much smaller size and tighter stop
[12:03 pm] go4it  : Ed could you suggest a target for SEE?
[12:03 pm] qwert  : so ed did you add on BAS
[12:03 pm] rusty  : analyst on CNBC "This is a bullish day for the markets"
[12:03 pm] Ed : did not get chance,too
[12:03 pm] doji  : Ed, do you enter your entry price and stop price at the same time or you place your stop after placing being filled?
[12:03 pm] jsn13  : i have collection fo screenshots on this kind of trade.....already have some concrete steps to trade them....got confirmation from looking at BAS...
[12:04 pm] doji  : Bullish day for the market?
[12:04 pm] Ed : most time right after trade is placed
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : market has a ways to go to be bullish i think
[12:05 pm] Ed : are u long bruce
[12:07 pm] Ed : hey bruce are u long the stock?
[12:08 pm] go4it  : Yes Ed
[12:09 pm] go4it  : L12.03
[12:09 pm] Ed : are trailing all, or sittin on piece
[12:09 pm] Ed : thx
[12:09 pm] go4it  : 12.40 stop
[12:10 pm] Ed : 12.81 possilblle
[12:10 pm] victor51  : Thanks Ed . Your NAV and See were great selection.Stlll holding 1/2 see
[12:10 pm] Ed : already there never mind
[12:10 pm] go4it  : TY Ed
[12:11 pm] Ed : bump up stop to 12.53
[12:11 pm] go4it  : ok
[12:11 pm] Ed : trailing behind 20sma
[12:11 pm] Ed : nice vicotr,
[12:11 pm] Ed : thats on the 1min
[12:12 pm] doji  : KCG lod
[12:13 pm] Ed : when I dont place stop right after entering trade, I will use my oso and adjust  my stop
[12:14 pm] Ed : if u want it really tight bruce 12.77 or 12.63 for trailing 20sma
[12:15 pm] go4it  : ok I'll take both thx
[12:16 pm] qwert  : nice trading go4it
[12:17 pm] go4it  : thx qwert
[12:17 pm] doji  : I need a faster connectivity!!!!
[12:17 pm] rusty  : CNBC loaded with geniuses today
[12:18 pm] khall  : ha ha - yeah
[12:18 pm] rusty  : this guy telling how he only had $5000 loss rather than $400M cause of good stop loss
[12:18 pm] victor51  : Ed, Do you think inst. investors  come in and buy SEE??
[12:19 pm] go4it  : 1/2 out SEE
[12:19 pm] joeytsa  : nice trading go4it :)
[12:19 pm] Ed : nice trading bruce
[12:19 pm] gregs  : 1m
[12:19 pm] go4it  : thx Joey
[12:20 pm] go4it  : last 1/2 at 12.95
[12:20 pm] Ed : its possible victor
[12:21 pm] doji  : Wow KCG
[12:22 pm] Ed : but from swing idea, if ur new I would stay away from it since trading under all major moving avg.
[12:23 pm] Ed : rusty he was honest and said he bought KCG as long yesterday and is not happy
[12:23 pm] Ed : about choice
[12:24 pm] khall  : who would be?  It's probably going to rebound but....
[12:24 pm] go4it  : all out SEE TY so much Ed
[12:24 pm] Ed : great trade bruce
[12:24 pm] Ed : u get the award today
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : haha
[12:25 pm] go4it  : I'm calculating your xmas bonus
[12:25 pm] Ed : cool
[12:26 pm] Ed : where is eyes today?
[12:26 pm] khall  : how many shares of KCG does he get Bruce?
[12:26 pm] khall  : :-)
[12:26 pm] doji  : EYES = SEE today
[12:26 pm] Ed : u got that right doji
[12:27 pm] go4it  : 10 khall I'm feelig generous lol
[12:27 pm] Ed : lol
[12:27 pm] khall  : LOL  - anyone else get NAV short?  It was good for 2.9 % move
[12:27 pm] qwert  : thats 9 more than he already has  :))
[12:27 pm] khall  : true, true
[12:28 pm] khall  : he can get fries to go with his burger now
[12:28 pm] Ed : yea, I will not know what to do with myself
[12:28 pm] go4it  : lol
[12:28 pm] khall  : you know we appreciate you Ed
[12:28 pm] go4it  : upgrade to Chic fila
[12:29 pm] Ed : nothing like that chicken with pickle
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : except that fried chicken sandwich that uses donuts instead of bread
[12:30 pm] go4it  : haha
[12:31 pm] Ed : so if I put sugar on it I have a donut
[12:31 pm] go4it  : nobody goes there anymore they're too crowded
[12:31 pm] Ed : lol
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : :)
[12:31 pm] qwert  : hahaha
[12:32 pm] rusty  : Still nothing definitive out of Knight on sale or loan. 30 minutes left - ZeroHedge
[12:33 pm] doji  : Watching MTG based on daily
[12:33 pm] Ed : thx rusty
[12:34 pm] rusty  : This week's glitch is an ironic embarrassment for Knight, which publicly criticized Nasdaq for the problems with Facebook's initial public offering.
[12:35 pm] Ed : reduce mortgage principle, next we will wake up and govt. wil own our homes
[12:36 pm] Ed : oops meant to say, the govt is full our nice kind people, wink wink
[12:36 pm] joeytsa  : hha
[12:36 pm] doji  : Another 35K and by the end of the year I'll be mortahe free.... aleluyah!
[12:37 pm] doji  : mortgage
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : nice doji, get the right stock and there ya go
[12:37 pm] khall  : yeah, the govt needs to stay out of it
[12:37 pm] Ed : mortgage free, tax free what else is there doji
[12:37 pm] joeytsa  : nothing like being debt free
[12:37 pm] doji  : and 100% debt free
[12:37 pm] khall  : that's great doji!
[12:38 pm] doji  : just got my merit increase also...
[12:38 pm] Ed : I think I could live with that and have poor conectivity
[12:38 pm] joeytsa  : takes some weight off your shoulders
[12:38 pm] Ed : for internet
[12:38 pm] doji  : hahaha
[12:38 pm] Ed : So thats the trade off
[12:39 pm] doji  : Nothing is perfect as my grand father always says
[12:39 pm] joeytsa  : thats when you just swing trade
[12:39 pm] Ed : not sure doji, u all get internet figured will be close
[12:39 pm] aussie123  : Just finished my first and last Monster drink...lol that stuff tastes like poison
[12:40 pm] doji  : Yes Joey, still need to wait another 8 years to send my older daugther to school
[12:40 pm] Ed : is is suppose to be a power drink
[12:41 pm] doji  : Now I just need my short in SLB to work before the market closes
[12:41 pm] joeytsa  : with sucrallose, it is a poison
[12:41 pm] aussie123  : Well see if I can get some power in the next 20 min
[12:42 pm] joeytsa  : qwert: did you get WTW short?
[12:42 pm] joeytsa  : tighten if so
[12:42 pm] rusty  : CNBC: Traders rooting for a bad jobs number to force Bernanke's hand
[12:43 pm] qwert  : missed my order did not fill and did not want to chase  but thx
[12:43 pm] Ed : was a nice setup
[12:43 pm] joeytsa  : oh ok
[12:52 pm] doji  : Stopped SLB...
[12:52 pm] doji  : looser
[12:53 pm] doji  : short sellin covering or bullls buying?
[12:54 pm] Ed : not too many want to be heavy ahead of report in am
[12:55 pm] doji  : Good night fellas
[12:55 pm] Ed : take care doji
[12:58 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch, Ed, everyone..have a great day
[12:59 pm] Ed : LNKD reports after close
[12:59 pm] gregs  : good night mitch and ed, thanks again
[12:59 pm] qwert  : good night everybody  thx for a great day
[12:59 pm] rusty  : gn to all the good traders
[01:00 pm] ben4givn  : bye all
[01:02 pm] khall  : goodnight all
[01:02 pm] rusty  : KCG CEO CONSIDERING BANKRUPTCY REORGANIZATION
[01:04 pm] rusty  : KCG nlod
[01:04 pm] rusty  : GoodNight Knight
[01:06 pm] gregs  : lol

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