Chat Highlights From 07/25/2013

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(06:00 am) JoeyTSA :FB very active so far
(06:07 am) JoeyTSA :trail/tighten FB if long
(06:08 am) JoeyTSA :/CL coming up to $105 res
(06:25 am) Ed :BIDU looks like 134 area rejecting price for now. post and premarkt
(06:27 am) Ed :thats on SRPT
(06:27 am) Ed :would start small, or just see what kind of reaction we get right at open, if buyers do come in at all. See how far buyers can push
(06:27 am) Ed :on SRPT advanced trade look for break of 36.66 with STRONG vol for continuatiion short
(06:28 am) Ed :FB pulling back now, has issues with 35 level
(06:29 am) Ed :TRIP kind of quiet would use 70 level see how it reacts to it
(06:30 am) Mitch King:YNDX spike
(06:30 am) Mitch King:watching INFN
(06:30 am) Mitch King:Premarket up:  FB, QCOM, Premarket down:  CROX
(06:31 am) Mitch King:watching CROX, change chart settings to see closeup of chart after big drop
(06:31 am) Mitch King:watching ANGI
(06:31 am) Mitch King:watching CAB
(06:31 am) Mitch King:watching BIDU
(06:31 am) JoeyTSA :eye on WDC
(06:32 am) Mitch King:watching FFIV, probably trends today
(06:32 am) Mitch King:LNKD on the move
(06:32 am) Mitch King:watching RYL
(06:32 am) Mitch King:watching GRA
(06:32 am) Mitch King:monitoring STX
(06:32 am) JoeyTSA :eye on UA today
(06:33 am) JoeyTSA :eye on BIIB for bottom
(06:33 am) Mitch King:watching SNTS, watching closely
(06:33 am) Mitch King:watching COF
(06:34 am) Mitch King:watching POT
(06:34 am) Mitch King:watching GRA closer
(06:34 am) Mitch King:watching USU today for big drop and then pop
(06:34 am) Mitch King:watching DAN
(06:34 am) JoeyTSA :eye on GMCR @ $74, see if holds or not
(06:34 am) Mitch King:watching HERO for short
(06:34 am) Mitch King:watching CNX, short
(06:35 am) Mitch King:watching CTXS, looking for bottom
(06:35 am) Mitch King:to buy the pop
(06:35 am) Mitch King:watchign QIHU for bottom
(06:35 am) Mitch King:watching CAM
(06:35 am) JoeyTSA :eye on APD also
(06:35 am) Mitch King:watching RRC
(06:35 am) Mitch King:watching DO
(06:36 am) Mitch King:watchign SPR
(06:36 am) Mitch King:monitoring RKT
(06:36 am) Mitch King:watching EW
(06:36 am) Mitch King:watching UTHR
(06:36 am) Mitch King:watching VNTV
(06:36 am) Mitch King:watching NFX
(06:37 am) Mitch King:watching IPO  ONTX in about 20 minutes from now, supposed to be a hot one, you want big drop and buy that bottom, only on first big drop, doesnt work well after that for high odds
(06:38 am) Mitch King:watching ASGN
(06:38 am) Mitch King:watching QIHU
(06:38 am) JoeyTSA :watching AKAM for top
(06:38 am) Mitch King:watchign ESI for bottom
(06:38 am) Mitch King:watchign MJN
(06:38 am) Mitch King:watchign AAPL for bottom
(06:39 am) Mitch King:one of these days, maybe today, housing stocks should have bigger bounce than normal after lot of selling
(06:39 am) JoeyTSA :/CL pullback to $105, on watch
(06:39 am) Mitch King:watching DHI, other housing stocks are TOL, LEN, KBH, PHM, usually same pattern
(06:40 am) Mitch King:watching TSCO
(06:40 am) Mitch King:TRIP toppy
(06:40 am) Mitch King:still watchign ANGI
(06:40 am) Mitch King:watching YOKU for top
(06:40 am) Mitch King:watching GILD
(06:41 am) Mitch King:lol, that was repeat
(06:41 am) Mitch King:watchign TSCO
(06:41 am) Mitch King:watchign CELG for bottom
(06:42 am) Mitch King:watching HOT for short here
(06:42 am) Mitch King:monitoring ORLY
(06:42 am) JoeyTSA :eye on OKE near $50
(06:42 am) Mitch King:watching RCL, Royal Cruise
(06:43 am) Mitch King:monitoring AMP
(06:43 am) Mitch King:godo trades on BIDU
(06:44 am) Mitch King:watching SINA, turned over
(06:44 am) Mitch King:consider selling VNTV
(06:45 am) Mitch King:watchign for top in VMW to short
(06:45 am) Mitch King:watchign DNKN
(06:46 am) Mitch King:watching for microshort on EFX
(06:46 am) Mitch King:take time on these rebounds to short on VMW
(06:47 am) Mitch King:watching YELP for bottom, watch big spread usually
(06:47 am) Mitch King:watching RTN
(06:47 am) Mitch King:watching STX closer
(06:48 am) Mitch King:missed HOG short but monitor for rebound for 2nd helping above 58.5, prob wont happen
(06:48 am) JoeyTSA :eye on BIDU
(06:48 am) Mitch King:BG turning over, more downside
(06:49 am) Mitch King:watching INFN closer
(06:49 am) Ed :if u took SRPT short would cover some in here
(06:50 am) Mitch King:watching for 2nd short on LAZ, never saw first one.  THis is Lazard, not Lazyboy
(06:50 am) JoeyTSA :GMCR nice short if you took it on $74 loss , i missed
(06:52 am) Mitch King:HOG getting interesting
(06:52 am) Mitch King:watching RRC
(06:53 am) Mitch King:watching SLAB closely
(06:53 am) Mitch King:QQQ not quite high but also rebounded
(06:53 am) Mitch King:SPY rebounded, now toward high of day
(06:54 am) Mitch King:wait and see if HOG makes new high, looks ready to short soon though
(06:54 am) Mitch King:RRC toppy
(06:55 am) Mitch King:late to see APD turned over, nice trades on it today
(06:55 am) JoeyTSA :fomc member Lew is supposed to be talkign now, watch positions
(06:55 am) Mitch King:always use limit orders on a stock like USU with big spread, stand your grand on price you want
(06:56 am) Mitch King:watching INFN still
(06:56 am) Mitch King:monitoring CTRP
(06:56 am) Mitch King:watching AMCC
(06:57 am) Mitch King:watching AKAm
(06:57 am) JoeyTSA :eye on CAB, missed the up move
(06:58 am) Mitch King:watching ITMN
(06:58 am) Mitch King:i think AMZN earnings after market today
(06:58 am) Mitch King:big name stocks turning over, retailers like HD, TGT, even AMZN
(06:58 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX on move
(06:59 am) Mitch King:watching GMCR
(06:59 am) Mitch King:watchign FLIR
(06:59 am) Mitch King:watching YY, low vol
(07:01 am) Mitch King:watching ALKS
(07:01 am) Mitch King:consider reducing INFN
(07:03 am) Mitch King:SEC case going to be difficult to get conviction on SAC culture encouraged inside trading.  failure to supervise is a weak case.
(07:04 am) Mitch King:i guess 610 mil settlement isnt enough money for SEC
(07:05 am) Mitch King:watching YY
(07:05 am) Mitch King:watching LULU
(07:06 am) Mitch King:SEC cant get dirt on Steve Cohen himself, i doubt they can keep him from managing money but they have seriously harmed the company with high amt of withdrawals
(07:06 am) JoeyTSA :eye on /NG , also nat gas report in about 24min
(07:08 am) JoeyTSA :RRC a beautiful chart to print and study
(07:10 am) Mitch King:monitoring SODA
(07:10 am) Mitch King:monitoring RT
(07:11 am) Mitch King:watch CL for bottom to buy, should be a good buy signal to last for hour?
(07:11 am) Mitch King:watching AAPL
(07:11 am) JoeyTSA :CELG testing $140
(07:12 am) Mitch King:INFN toppy
(07:12 am) JoeyTSA :MJN giving pullback, see if $76 can hold
(07:13 am) Mitch King:you guys should all have Lightning vers 3 by now, download links,
(07:14 am) Mitch King:whatever sound or alert you liek or dont like you can have it on or off
(07:14 am) JoeyTSA :eye on AMGN
(07:14 am) Mitch King:frank sinatra sound is price levels are very low and look for bottom to buy
(07:15 am) Mitch King:looking for bounce in CL
(07:17 am) Mitch King:thats correct joey.  we developed our own version of oscillator but is so complicated i didnt want to release it, too confusing for most
(07:18 am) Mitch King:i got a lime green buy signal just now on 1 min CL
(07:18 am) Mitch King:correct joey, you are looking for next signal, best to get an orange, purple blue or now a lime green buy signal
(07:19 am) Mitch King:watching PTEN
(07:20 am) Mitch King:yes joey, ooga is overbought area
(07:21 am) Mitch King:thanks taco for ONTX headsup
(07:22 am) Mitch King:watching MTW
(07:23 am) Mitch King:more upside on WDC
(07:23 am) Mitch King:consider covering SKX if short
(07:24 am) Mitch King:USU toppy, sell if long
(07:25 am) Mitch King:PTEN bouncing
(07:26 am) Mitch King:monitoring SHPG, trending
(07:27 am) JoeyTSA :nat gas # in 2min
(07:28 am) Mitch King:ONTX posting bid and ask but not open yet
(07:33 am) Mitch King:did you guys get a orange buy signal on the 1 min chart of vers 3 on CL?
(07:34 am) Mitch King:same here qwert, lime green
(07:34 am) Mitch King:same here qwert, 720am pt
(07:35 am) Mitch King:i think qwert is too
(07:35 am) Mitch King:yes joey, i am on the 1 min chart
(07:39 am) Mitch King:watching CTXS for bottom
(07:43 am) Mitch King:this is going to be a good play on long side, the lower the better
(07:43 am) Mitch King:i am talking about ONTX ipo
(07:43 am) Mitch King:nope, just lost 22
(07:43 am) Mitch King:looks close here though
(07:43 am) Mitch King:let it drop a little more
(07:44 am) Mitch King:you have to use limit orders, i would use simulator for this if you dont know how to trade IPOs
(07:44 am) Mitch King:i think we have a bottom here n ONTX
(07:47 am) Mitch King:you buy IPO drops like this ONTX in increments  but you have to remember it is a fast moving stock, very fast.
(07:50 am) Mitch King:now this is when you need to walk away from it, i really wouldnt trade it, odds drop in half or more against you
(07:50 am) Mitch King:thats pretty much it as far as a high probabilty ipo trade
(07:50 am) Mitch King:?
(07:50 am) Mitch King:ok you guys do well on ONTX>
(07:51 am) Mitch King:the more you trade it from here the more you dribble your account balance down
(07:52 am) Mitch King:you can see it is stuck here, that is a gracious top
(07:53 am) Mitch King:if you try to force more money out of the ONTX trade, you would have to ask yourself a question of risk vs. reward.  Reward is getting very small and risk is increasing.  you would also have to ask why 10% move isnt enough money for you on an IPO when 95% of them dont act this well
(07:54 am) Mitch King:im now your mental coach.  don't be tempted to buy long here even though it is powering up,
(07:54 am) Mitch King:i think ok if you are trailing a stop from earlier long but a new position from here is financial suicide
(07:55 am) Mitch King:watching IP
(07:55 am) Mitch King:it is very very rare this happens, maybe 1-2 times a year.
(07:55 am) Mitch King:we are talking about ONTX
(07:58 am) Mitch King:the guy who gave me the alert it would be hot was Jim Cramer on cnbc.
(07:58 am) Mitch King:you have to be in the mentality with IPOs to be grateful to make that much money and hold on to it.  it is a one time opportunity.  im telling ya, old Chinese man is right on this.  this is the ONLY way i play IPOs.  a hot hot ipo, that drops hard just like ONTX did.  from $25 to $20 and bounce to $22, picture perfect high odds play.
(07:59 am) Mitch King:i also saw another commentator mention it on tv too, bloomberg tv so then i was sure it would have attention because there are specialists with IPOs.  i dont have time to be a specialist on ipos anymore, was in the mid to late 90s
(08:00 am) Mitch King:i do what Ed suggested, i replace that chart with another idea so i dont get tempted.
(08:00 am) Ed :US) July Kansas City Fed Manufacturing Activity: +6 v 0e -
(08:02 am) Mitch King:and all three have to give you a green light
(08:02 am) Mitch King:i think if anyone wants to trade ONTX again today has to get permission from 3 other traders here before clicking mouse
(08:03 am) Mitch King:but dont ask me because that chart has been replaced with the CL 1 min again.  still no sell signal from the lime green and orange buy signal qwert
(08:05 am) Mitch King:right taco, thats what i am saying the odds are it is all played out and the trade is over with ONTX.  now i get back to monitoring the CL 09 long trade from 718 and 720am buy signal this morning on 1 min chart.
(08:06 am) Mitch King:i have both charts next to each other.   only use the 362 lightning bars to execute, sometimes the 242 setting but watch the 1 min chart most of the time for overall look
(08:07 am) Mitch King:the lightning bars are a zoom lens, easier to see wider landscape view of CL on 1 min
(08:08 am) Mitch King:you can choose when to sell so dont wait for sell signal on 1 min.  it may not show an orange, purple, cyan blue or hot pink red sell signal.  but i know this type of signal, especially accompanied with that lime green buy signal is very very powerful, often times 50-70 tick moves
(08:09 am) Mitch King:other futures instruments, works same way, not so much with ES though
(08:09 am) Mitch King:look at the one earlier at 518am pacific time on CL 1 min chart, price level was around 104.45, look what happened following hour, 100 ticks or so, happens over and over and over so i have adjusted my trading style
(08:10 am) Mitch King:i think you should go back and look last 30 days on charts tonight and verify for yourself.
(08:11 am) Mitch King:you really should because confidence soars
(08:12 am) Mitch King:you should also keep records in a spreadsheet and then do that for 3 months and then get your stats.
(08:13 am) Mitch King:it calms your trading down a lot with futures.  i think skydiver would have a challenge transitioning to this but he can use 242 setting for his style and that works too, just a lot more trading, requires higher attention for shorter periods of time.  and that is profitable too
(08:15 am) Qwert :watching FB again at lod
(08:26 am) Murano :watching AEM
(08:32 am) Ed :sorry thats Newark Airport
(08:32 am) Ed :smoke reported on United Airlines flight in New York
(08:48 am) Mitch King:first sell signal since the 718am and 720am buy signals
(08:48 am) Mitch King:ok got first sell signal on 1 min CL 09
(08:48 am) JoeyTSA :/CL might bet getting toppy?
(08:49 am) Mitch King:so that is 140 tick move, monster move
(08:50 am) Mitch King:you dont have to wait for a sell signal qwert
(08:58 am) Murano :watching HD
(08:58 am) JoeyTSA :no trade yet, but keep eye on AMZN
(09:06 am) JoeyTSA :watching USG
(09:13 am) JoeyTSA :tighten USG if long
(09:19 am) JoeyTSA :CMG pop over $400, has lower vol
(09:23 am) JoeyTSA :markets getting some buying
(09:25 am) Murano :watching GRA
(09:37 am) JoeyTSA :if anyone is still long USG, now is better time to tighten  :)
(09:41 am) JoeyTSA :re: AMZN earnings, based on atm $300 straddle, potential move is $18-20 either way
(09:45 am) Ed :SPY new hod
(09:48 am) JoeyTSA :AMGN slow trend higher
(09:59 am) Ed :EG) Egypt military sets new deadline of Saturday to join with the political process (related EGPT USD/EGP -
(10:00 am) Ed :EG) Egypt military sets new deadline of Saturday for Muslim Brotherhood to join  with the political process-
(10:12 am) Murano :watching HOT
(10:26 am) Murano :watching HWAY
(10:35 am) Ed :USU forming nice triangle on 15minute chart, keep on radar to look for break to upside/downside
(10:36 am) Ed :if ur not familiear with Triangles/pennants  technical analysis by john murphy great study guide
(11:07 am) Ed :SKS on  move
(11:07 am) Ed :SPY new hod
(11:08 am) Ed :will look for tets near hod
(11:12 am) Ed :TGT monitoring would loke more selling and test @near 70 area
(11:19 am) Ed :SKS still strong
(11:31 am) Mitch King:i have stitch marks
(11:31 am) Mitch King:dont try to buy ONTX bottoms now, like trying to catch falling knife, often slashes wrist by accident
(11:36 am) Mitch King:you also need to remember that ipos usually have wide spread, ONTX has 19 cent spread, 15 cents most of today.  that makes it tougher to get good and timely prices
(11:46 am) Murano :watching EIX
(11:58 am) Ed :also quick hint for strong uptrend stocks, we spoke about downtrends yesterday, just opposite
(11:59 am) Ed :it confirmed rejection of highs just like u look for confirmation in downtrend of comfirms of lows
(11:59 am) Ed :EX. OKE had bearish candle 2:39, then u look for retest or confirmation of that and we got rejection candle 2:47 that confirmed
(12:01 pm) Ed :This will help on % basis on those trenders when one is trying to go against overall trend. No hurry  wait for stock to setup. If does not or no confirmation pass
(12:02 pm) Ed :sometimes u may not get retest, but again so many opportunities, you want to play the higher probability setups
(12:04 pm) Ed :Its all about probabilities
(12:04 pm) Ed :advanced traders will take first setup they see. Setup being signal. But again when going against trend more confirm increases odds.
(12:09 pm) Ed :US$ finally lost 82 area
(12:09 pm) Ed :US) Fed officials are said to be looking at revising guidance on rates at the July FOMC meeting on July 30-12st - financial press - Fed said to be on track to continue $85B rate of QE asset purchases.
(12:09 pm) Ed :6E (euro) and EUR/USD moving to new high
(12:30 pm) Ed :Market Internals update at 15:30ET - NYSE volume 455M shares, about 4% below its three-month average; advancers lead decliners by 1.1:1.  - NASDAQ volume 1.7B shares, about 25% above its three-month average; advancers lead decliners by 1.8:1.  - VIX index -1.8% at just under 13.00  (12:41 pm) Ed :WFC Withdraws from the Mortgage Joint Venture Business (12:53 pm) Ed :have a great eve traders
(01:17 pm) Mitch King:if anyone is still here, regarding that ONTX.  what we want to see tomorrow at opening is a drop, maybe 2 points and then look for bottom.  remind me on this
(01:19 pm) Mitch King:Expedia.com dumped, EXPE

(05:36 am) taco  :/GC poping
(05:53 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning Qwert, traders
(05:54 am) JoeyTSA :only report left today is nat gas @ 7:30pdt
(05:55 am) JoeyTSA :early gap down: CROX,WDC,EQIX,SI,SRPT,SQNM
(05:55 am) JoeyTSA :early gap up: BIDU,FB,FFIV,TRIP,BIIB
(05:56 am) JoeyTSA :UA,CELG,LNKD up too, will keep them on the radar
(05:56 am) taco  :gm Qwert Joey and all thx joey for info
(05:56 am) JoeyTSA :taco, you will love that book
(05:58 am) taco  :i read a bit this morn, thanks
(05:58 am) JoeyTSA :no prob, very easy read but great material
(05:59 am) taco  :i grabbed the others too
(06:00 am) JoeyTSA ::)
(06:07 am) Murano :good morning
(06:07 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning Murano and Ed
(06:08 am) Murano :good morning Joey
(06:09 am) Ed :good morning joey, murano,qwert, akram, austria, harlen444,mberl1, regatta,shorty,so, taco, others
(06:09 am) Qwert :Good morning to everyone
(06:12 am) JoeyTSA :/CL blew right through 105
(06:16 am) skydiver  :gm all
(06:21 am) herman  :gm all
(06:24 am) JoeyTSA :just going to use 1676,1680 on /ES to start off with as s/r
(06:24 am) JoeyTSA :probably not exact, just eyeballing those levels
(06:27 am) JoeyTSA :thx Ed
(06:27 am) skydiver  :thnx Ed
(06:29 am) taco  :THX ED
(06:29 am) taco  :caps..
(06:33 am) JoeyTSA :BIDU active
(06:33 am) so  :FB up
(06:36 am) JoeyTSA :AMZN lost $300, just watching for now
(06:37 am) JoeyTSA :thx Mitch
(06:41 am) skydiver  :ipo - WCIC now open
(06:43 am) skydiver  :FB slowly coming down
(06:45 am) Qwert :CROX new hod
(06:50 am) JoeyTSA :/ES into 1680 res
(06:52 am) JoeyTSA :yeah, RRC perfect moves so far
(06:54 am) JoeyTSA :eye on FFIV @ $91
(06:56 am) skydiver  :thnx joey for news on fomc member . . watching positions for sure
(06:56 am) skydiver  :thnx for RRC Mitch
(06:56 am) JoeyTSA :/CL was nice bounce off $105
(06:57 am) JoeyTSA :APD has been nice
(06:57 am) skydiver  :covering  3/4 RRC short
(06:58 am) so  :APD great short
(06:59 am) taco  :nice on RRC
(06:59 am) JoeyTSA :correct Mitch, AMZN after close,  cons est is .06,  whisper is .08
(06:59 am) taco  :nice so
(07:01 am) skydiver  :got out too early on RRC, but glad I kept 1/4
(07:01 am) JoeyTSA :RRC beautiful call
(07:04 am) JoeyTSA ::)
(07:04 am) JoeyTSA :if they arent happy with that, they can send it my way
(07:07 am) JoeyTSA :didnt even see TSLA hold $120 area
(07:07 am) taco  :BIDU may not hold up..
(07:07 am) JoeyTSA :yeah taco
(07:08 am) Murano :RT having a bad day
(07:08 am) taco  :so many good ideas this morn
(07:09 am) JoeyTSA :re: RRC , picture perfect moves, pullbacks, dbl top and use of round #'s
(07:09 am) taco  :totally
(07:12 am) skydiver  :TSLA strong so far this morning over all
(07:12 am) JoeyTSA :/CL ugly $1 pullback, sitting on S1 now
(07:13 am) JoeyTSA :yeah sky, missed that bounce, wasnt even looking at it
(07:13 am) skydiver  :yes Mitch -- downloaded it and using it now
(07:13 am) JoeyTSA :same here, just trying to understand what Frank wants :)
(07:14 am) skydiver  :lol joey :)
(07:14 am) Qwert :haha same here joey
(07:14 am) skydiver  :thnx Mitch -- was wondering
(07:15 am) JoeyTSA :i assume when the alert says " OSC below outer OS" it means the oscillator is below an outer oversold area?
(07:16 am) skydiver  :my aaooga horn just went off . . nice horn
(07:17 am) JoeyTSA :ok,  i dont get any color bar on those, is that correct?
(07:18 am) skydiver  :ipo - ICEL - opens in a couple of minutes arond $12 or so
(07:18 am) JoeyTSA :thanks,  i didnt get a lime green though on /CL
(07:19 am) JoeyTSA :but i did get a dbl bot with pos div
(07:19 am) JoeyTSA :/CL S1 is 104.50
(07:20 am) JoeyTSA :so oouga horn is overbought alert, now its making sense
(07:20 am) taco  :ICEL open
(07:20 am) skydiver  :thnx taco
(07:21 am) taco  :watching for ONTX too..
(07:21 am) taco  :np Captian
(07:22 am) so  :SKX great short
(07:23 am) JoeyTSA :nice run on WDC
(07:28 am) JoeyTSA :/NG can get wild, either avoid it or use caution if trading it
(07:28 am) Qwert :thx joey
(07:29 am) skydiver  :glad I passed on ICEL ipo
(07:33 am) Qwert :yes at 7:20 pst mitch
(07:33 am) Qwert :104.37 price
(07:34 am) JoeyTSA :no i didnt get it
(07:34 am) Qwert :lime green at 7:18
(07:34 am) JoeyTSA :didnt get taht either
(07:35 am) JoeyTSA :is it because i am on the 2-4-2 ?
(07:35 am) JoeyTSA :oh ok
(07:35 am) Qwert :i have 1 chart on 1 min and another on lightning 3 bar chart
(07:35 am) JoeyTSA :thx qwert
(07:36 am) JoeyTSA :great moves so far, break time, see you in 45
(07:36 am) taco  :c ya joey
(07:36 am) skydiver  :take care joey
(07:40 am) skydiver  :ipo - ONTX is open
(07:41 am) taco  :thx sky
(07:41 am) skydiver  :np
(07:43 am) skydiver  :thnx Mitch on ipo info
(07:45 am) skydiver  :ONTX - still watching
(07:48 am) Ed :thx Mitch for ONTX
(07:49 am) taco  :nice:)
(07:49 am) taco  :thx mitch
(07:50 am) skydiver  :all out of ONTX long
(07:50 am) taco  :yes
(07:50 am) skydiver  :yes Mitch -- thanks :) :)
(07:50 am) Qwert :yes ONTX
(07:50 am) skydiver  :great teaching Master Mitch :)
(07:50 am) Qwert :i still have 100 shares left
(07:51 am) skydiver  :ok . . walking away from it
(07:51 am) Qwert :stop at .99
(07:51 am) taco  :right
(07:51 am) skydiver  :understand
(07:51 am) taco  :for me that would be true
(07:51 am) Qwert :for all of us taco
(07:52 am) taco  :lol
(07:53 am) taco  :ed, theres a message stuck on the screen
(07:53 am) taco  :oh no, sorry it was mine
(07:53 am) skydiver  :ok . . my time is up . . fun morning again :)   May not be back on till Monday -- picking up step mother and sister at airport here in Portland
(07:53 am) Ed :lol OK
(07:53 am) Ed :see ya sky
(07:53 am) skydiver  ::)
(07:54 am) taco  :bye sky have a great day with fam
(07:54 am) skydiver  :thanks taco
(07:54 am) skydiver  :see ya
(07:55 am) Qwert :just trailing stop on last 100 onxx
(07:55 am) Ed :Good idea to take completely off ur screen
(07:55 am) Qwert :sorry ontx
(07:58 am) Qwert :thx mitch
(07:59 am) taco  :i was wondering how you figured it would be good
(07:59 am) taco  :BIDU dropping
(08:02 am) Qwert :haahaha
(08:02 am) taco  :)
(08:03 am) taco  :38%fib for BIDU, not trading just noticing
(08:05 am) Qwert :are u using 1 min to trade off of mitch or just for that good signal to then use lightning bars
(08:07 am) Qwert :okay thank you
(08:07 am) Qwert :right i have a tendency to get to zoomed in
(08:09 am) Qwert :Mitch are you doing the same with other instruments or just /CL
(08:10 am) Qwert :thanks
(08:11 am) Qwert :i already am  :)
(08:35 am) JoeyTSA :OKE with some nice moves today
(08:42 am) taco  :CAT bouncing dbl bot
(08:42 am) taco  :late
(08:45 am) JoeyTSA :watching RRC @ 40,  but marginal trade at best
(08:45 am) herman  :stra res 43
(08:46 am) JoeyTSA :thx herman, but do you mean support?
(08:48 am) herman  :yes
(08:49 am) taco  :nice Mitch
(08:49 am) JoeyTSA :huge move
(08:50 am) Qwert :i havnt gotten a sell on the 1 min yet
(08:51 am) JoeyTSA :10 contracts paid almost as much as a year working for minimum wage, just for perspective
(08:51 am) taco  :wow
(08:52 am) taco  :whats the margin for 1 joey?
(08:52 am) herman  :itmn rolling
(08:52 am) Qwert :oh i know was just saying my version has not kicked a signal yet on 1 min wait just did now at 8:51
(08:52 am) Mitch King:usually about 3500 taco
(08:52 am) JoeyTSA :approx $2k depending on broker
(08:52 am) taco  :ty
(08:52 am) Mitch King:Zaner has low margin requirements, IB is highest
(08:53 am) JoeyTSA :overnight is higher, closer to $5k +
(08:53 am) Ed :AMP pretty low also
(08:53 am) Ed :AMP clearing
(08:53 am) taco  :nice
(08:54 am) taco  :definitely in my future
(08:54 am) JoeyTSA :no pun intended  haha
(08:54 am) taco  :;)
(08:54 am) Qwert :i use amp they have been real good no problems
(08:54 am) Qwert :nice call on /CL mitch
(08:58 am) JoeyTSA :re; AMZN , earnings today, bouncing between 299,300 right now, i would expect some type of move
(09:06 am) JoeyTSA :USG trying to hold $24,  large red vol candle
(09:09 am) JoeyTSA :OKE still toying with $50
(09:09 am) JoeyTSA :trying to bounce a bit though
(09:12 am) Murano :covered all AEM
(09:13 am) taco  :nice call joey
(09:14 am) JoeyTSA :USG might have more upside, just dont give back much profit
(09:14 am) JoeyTSA :was originally looking for 24.60
(09:15 am) taco  :i was a little late, in at 24.07
(09:15 am) taco  :but was a triangle before the uptick
(09:16 am) taco  :i guess it had higher lows and highs
(09:17 am) JoeyTSA :all out, still might run though
(09:17 am) taco  :im out too
(09:18 am) JoeyTSA :little more cautious this time of day
(09:18 am) JoeyTSA :AMZN hilarious, keeps coming back to $299
(09:19 am) herman  :good call usg joey
(09:19 am) JoeyTSA :thx herman,  in hindsight left $ on the table, oh well
(09:20 am) JoeyTSA :if anyone took OKE off of $50, tighten as it nears $51
(09:25 am) JoeyTSA :totally missed UA
(09:25 am) JoeyTSA :thx Murano
(09:28 am) Murano :I missed my entry on GRA
(09:28 am) JoeyTSA :USG ended up making it to 24.60 , should have stuck to my guns
(09:30 am) Murano :lunch time   back in 20
(09:30 am) JoeyTSA :enjoy
(09:31 am) taco  :c ya m
(09:38 am) JoeyTSA :i left as much money on the table as i made on that one
(09:39 am) Ed :nice way to put it
(09:39 am) JoeyTSA :i typed it much nicer than i talked it out loud hahaha
(09:39 am) Ed :lol
(09:40 am) JoeyTSA :started off as " hey you dumb..."  you can figure out the rest  haha
(09:46 am) JoeyTSA :/YM up about 100pts past hour
(09:51 am) herman  :look at usg go
(09:51 am) herman  :haha
(09:52 am) herman  :out long time ago
(09:52 am) JoeyTSA :same here
(09:53 am) Murano :if you took GRA long would sell some here
(09:57 am) herman  :oke what anice chart
(10:06 am) herman  :oke
(10:08 am) JoeyTSA :yeah, OKE has been a player a few times
(10:09 am) herman  :usg finally rolling over
(10:18 am) Murano :not trading HOT short, wanted to take it long over R2
(10:21 am) JoeyTSA :ALXN lod, trying to hold $197
(10:21 am) JoeyTSA :$107
(10:23 am) JoeyTSA :lunch break, back in 40 , very good calls today
(10:43 am) taco  :thanks Mitch Ed Qwert Murano Joey and everyone. i have to paint and put new floor in a rental. have a great wknd and hope to be back monday
(10:44 am) Qwert :bye taco cya monday
(10:46 am) Ed :c ya taco, have fun
(10:46 am) Ed :and make that money dont let the money make you
(10:48 am) herman  :bye taco
(10:49 am) Murano :covered 3/4 HWAY
(10:56 am) herman  :was out at 17.64
(10:58 am) so  :watching OKE
(10:59 am) Murano :I covered 3/4 at 17.58 looking for 17.45 on last 1/4.  Stop at 17.71.
(11:24 am) herman  :oke trending wait till break trend
(11:25 am) JoeyTSA :yeah, OKE coming up to dbl top area
(11:26 am) JoeyTSA :watch for move either way
(11:26 am) JoeyTSA :bit of a market sell off
(11:31 am) JoeyTSA :haha,  i forgot all about ONTX
(11:32 am) JoeyTSA :Ed only has 7 fingers  :)
(11:32 am) Ed :7.1
(11:33 am) JoeyTSA :the updated version :)
(11:33 am) Ed ::)
(11:39 am) Ed :nice call joey on OKE over 50
(11:40 am) JoeyTSA :thx,  nice breakout over $52 a few minutes back also
(11:40 am) Ed :yep like playing those levels, case u missed stock
(11:41 am) Ed :this way u can play with low risk
(11:41 am) JoeyTSA :agree, you know quickly if you are wrong
(11:46 am) Qwert :So Ed or Joey if you go long on OKE over 52 how tight do you have your stop on that type of trade?
(11:46 am) JoeyTSA :qwert,  usually 20-25c
(11:47 am) JoeyTSA :depends on where my profit target is, and also how the chart is laid out scaling wise...
(11:47 am) Ed :only stocks under 60, I will use 52.09 for entry and 51.91 for stop
(11:47 am) JoeyTSA :i easy to eyeball the dotted horizontal lines
(11:48 am) JoeyTSA :right, also depends on where your entry is
(11:48 am) Ed :rather I use .09 to -13 for entry over whole number
(11:48 am) Qwert :okay thanks guys
(11:48 am) Ed :and like joey says about .17 to .20 stop
(11:48 am) JoeyTSA :51.60 had more s/r , but was a bit far away for me to use on a scalp
(11:49 am) Ed :If I go 1/4 of position I may give more room
(11:49 am) JoeyTSA :decent area if you think it might run $1.50 +
(11:49 am) JoeyTSA :good point Ed, position size can alter things
(11:50 am) Ed :or just wait for pullback to ma's also. So number of ways one can play
(11:50 am) Qwert :i dont play a lot of breakouts but would like to add to the tool box  :)
(11:50 am) Ed :best to go small size on breakouts, as % basis they seem like about 50% on probability scale
(11:51 am) Ed :joey may have different take, but looking back thats what i have found
(11:51 am) JoeyTSA :yeah Ed, you can enter half on teh breakout, add on pullback and hold of the breakout area
(11:52 am) Ed :now flipsdie is lot of them do work out, its just buying breakout and sometimes will pullkack stop you out and resurge later in day
(11:52 am) JoeyTSA :plus OKE had been strong all day
(11:52 am) Qwert :i have had that happen on numerous occasions
(11:53 am) Ed :Like TRIP quick breakout then pulled back, so had to have quick fingers on TRIP first thing this am
(11:53 am) Ed :but TRIP gave nice pullback
(11:53 am) Qwert :and volume on OKE is really high today
(11:53 am) JoeyTSA :same basic technique works for swing trades on stocks making new 3month,6month,52wk highs etc
(11:54 am) Ed :now like on OKE my buy over 53 did not trigger
(11:54 am) Murano :Have an issue I have to handle.  See you tomorrow.
(11:55 am) Qwert :did it miss you by only 1 cent?
(11:55 am) Ed :ok c ya murano
(11:55 am) JoeyTSA :bye murano, hope all is ok
(11:55 am) Ed :yep just 1 cent
(11:55 am) Ed :but either way if had triggered way stock reactied off 53's i would have stopped
(11:55 am) herman  :bye murano
(11:55 am) Qwert :so your using buy stop orders for the breakouts?
(11:55 am) Ed :knowing me I would have quickly reversed for short
(11:56 am) JoeyTSA :one thing on a 52wk high swing, you can enter half but use options to lower your investment,  then add on any pullback..so many ways to do things
(11:56 am) Ed :know I have quick fingers
(11:56 am) Ed :know=no
(11:56 am) JoeyTSA :7.1 of them  haha
(11:56 am) Ed :sometimes i will though
(11:56 am) Ed :lol
(11:56 am) Qwert :so using hot buttons?
(11:56 am) Ed :yes
(11:57 am) Ed :hot fingers
(11:57 am) JoeyTSA :safest way to play breakouts is let it break and pullback/hold, then enter...only risk is either small loss or missed trade if no pullback
(11:58 am) Qwert :how much will you go past the price to get filled 2-3 cents?
(11:59 am) Qwert :i have hot buttons set to 3 cents max
(11:59 am) JoeyTSA :sometimes i get in b4 the breakout, gunsling it a bit..not a recommendation though
(12:00 pm) Qwert :understand thanks for the help
(12:00 pm) JoeyTSA :profit target has a lot to do with it for me...
(12:01 pm) JoeyTSA :if i see $1 move,  i will go 15-20 past breakout area at times
(12:01 pm) Qwert :so ideally would have consolidated there just under or around 53
(12:02 pm) JoeyTSA :i didnt take it, but that was a very nice setup for a short on OKE
(12:02 pm) JoeyTSA :dbl top, neg div
(12:03 pm) Qwert :yeah real nice setup for short i didnt take it either
(12:03 pm) JoeyTSA :something else i am trying to implement more is conjunction...
(12:03 pm) JoeyTSA :sometimes best setups fail,  can be due to outside circumstances
(12:03 pm) Qwert :what is that joey
(12:04 pm) JoeyTSA :ie: a bearish setup in a bullish environment
(12:04 pm) Qwert :okay thx
(12:05 pm) Ed :or the trader who is not participant yet, sitting on sidelines waiting to enter with hi power ball money just won
(12:05 pm) JoeyTSA :overall you want to put more positive things on your side
(12:06 pm) Ed :I agwee
(12:06 pm) JoeyTSA :haha
(12:07 pm) Qwert :yeah we want his money  :))
(12:07 pm) Ed :right
(12:08 pm) JoeyTSA :and the hardest thing about all of this is that sometimes you dont get much time to decide
(12:09 pm) JoeyTSA :esp on fast movers
(12:11 pm) Ed :was waiting for 82 area to crack and missed it
(12:12 pm) JoeyTSA :nice pop on /GC
(12:12 pm) Ed :yep
(12:13 pm) JoeyTSA :gave nice signal off the pp about 40+ min ago,  didnt see it
(12:14 pm) Qwert :have to restart back in a minute
(12:15 pm) JoeyTSA :AMZN over $303 now
(12:27 pm) JoeyTSA :took my eye off of OKE, missed nice long
(12:31 pm) JoeyTSA :Thanks Mitch,Ed,Qwert,everyone..nice trading, hope you all have a great afternoon,  see you in the morning
(12:31 pm) JoeyTSA :thx Ed for info
(12:31 pm) Ed :c ya joey
(12:31 pm) Qwert :bye joey thx for helping
(12:32 pm) JoeyTSA :no prob qwert
(12:41 pm) herman  :sat back and listened ,very educational thanx for all the good trades see everyone in am
(12:42 pm) Ed :c ya herma
(12:42 pm) Ed :herman
(12:53 pm) Qwert :bye everyone cya all in the am a great day  :))

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