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(05:10 am) taco :gm Qwert and everyone (05:11 am) taco :/GC is moving nice (05:21 am) taco :/CL looking for bottom.. (05:23 am) Qwert :gm everyone CL is nice (05:28 am) taco :NFLX had big move last night for earnings, should be good today (05:50 am) taco :FIRE is potential aquisition (05:53 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning Mitch,Qwert,everyone (05:54 am) JoeyTSA :HPI # in 5 minutes, Rochmond manufacturing # @ 7pdt (05:55 am) JoeyTSA :early gap down ; NFLX,PENN,QXII,ISIS,RYAAY (05:56 am) JoeyTSA :early gap up : FIREmPANW,DD,CSE,FTNT,PACW (05:56 am) JoeyTSA :thx taco for FIRE info (05:57 am) JoeyTSA :FIRE being bought by CSCO (05:57 am) taco :np looked like a buyout. thx for gaps joey (05:58 am) JoeyTSA :yeahm anytime i see a gap with price stuck i assume some type of buyout etc (05:58 am) taco :right (06:00 am) taco :ARRY gap up also *** ladybug , Welcome to the TradeStocksAmerica Live Trading Room (06:02 am) JoeyTSA :ARRY had positive tests for an asthma drug (06:02 am) JoeyTSA :2 nice moves on /CL so far (06:03 am) taco :yes (06:03 am) JoeyTSA :actually 4, might as well play it while its hot (06:05 am) taco :nice trendline top /CL (06:13 am) JoeyTSA :watching /CL 106, 106.25 range for move (06:14 am) JoeyTSA :/ES in 2 pt range at the moment (06:14 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning Ed, Murano, everyone else who signed in after last gm :) (06:14 am) taco :not sure what QXII is joey, maybe typo? (06:14 am) Murano :good morning (06:15 am) taco :yes:) (06:16 am) skydiver :Nice Mitdh -- looking forward to beta version 3 -- (06:17 am) skydiver :gm all by the way (06:18 am) taco :lot of good premrkt setups, should be good morn (06:20 am) JoeyTSA :thx for list Mitch (06:20 am) taco :thx mitch (06:20 am) JoeyTSA :yes, that was a type, its QSII (06:21 am) JoeyTSA :both FIRE and PANW giving nice pullback (06:21 am) taco :whenever i type wrong symbol my wife thinks im playing space invaers lol (06:21 am) herman :gm everyone (06:24 am) JoeyTSA :my wife thinks this is just one big video game (06:26 am) taco :) (06:35 am) JoeyTSA :quick moves so far, /ES still stuck in 2pt range (06:41 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX bery strong so far (06:41 am) JoeyTSA :very (06:42 am) JoeyTSA :AAPL a bit weak, GOOG trying to hold $910 (06:47 am) JoeyTSA :GMCR still on my radar though (06:48 am) JoeyTSA :order on GMCR got filled quick, in hindsight should have waited, but thats trading (06:49 am) skydiver :TSLA - coming up to a double top (06:49 am) JoeyTSA :good catch sky (06:49 am) skydiver ::) (06:51 am) JoeyTSA :/CL might be a lower tick trade idea, may not even be worth the risk (06:52 am) skydiver :out 3/4 on TSLA long (06:52 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX,LNKD look to be coiling for something (06:52 am) JoeyTSA :great trade sky, held 123 and went up (06:52 am) taco :nice sky:) (06:53 am) skydiver :TSLA been nice to me past couple of days (06:53 am) JoeyTSA :AMGN a bit weak, just watching (06:53 am) skydiver :all out of TSLA long (06:53 am) JoeyTSA :TSLA is your new JOY :) (06:53 am) skydiver :I gues :) (06:54 am) JoeyTSA :/ES just stuck in the mud (06:54 am) JoeyTSA :my shorter tick chart looks funny (06:55 am) JoeyTSA :mistake #2 today, didnt reverse my GMCR position (06:56 am) JoeyTSA :thx Ed (06:57 am) JoeyTSA :missed nice breakout on WAT with that move to $100, on watch (06:58 am) skydiver :I mis handled GPOR - shorted to quick, but held on, fianlly coming down into profit (07:00 am) skydiver :all out of GPOR short - (07:02 am) skydiver :reminder to self -- do not look at the money - need more discipline there (07:04 am) JoeyTSA :that was a huge miss on the richmond # (07:04 am) JoeyTSA :only missed by 18 haha (07:05 am) skydiver :that was a huge miss -- wow (07:05 am) JoeyTSA :/ES lost that early range, trying to hold 1690 here (07:05 am) JoeyTSA :yeah sky, forex factory had 7 as the forecast, 8 was the previous month, so -11 is ugly (07:06 am) skydiver :I guess -- crazy (07:06 am) JoeyTSA :just not sure how that makes me money :) (07:06 am) skydiver :if you find out, let all of us know :) (07:06 am) JoeyTSA ::) (07:11 am) JoeyTSA :watchign /CL here (07:15 am) taco :think just had earnings (07:15 am) JoeyTSA :very nice on TEVA (07:16 am) skydiver :Mylan announces favoriable ruling ni patent infringement case relating to TEVA (07:16 am) taco :thx sky (07:17 am) skydiver ::) (07:17 am) taco :i think that's from july 18th (07:17 am) skydiver :sorry -- you're correct . . . old old old news - need coffee!! (07:18 am) taco :lol (07:20 am) JoeyTSA :i didnt even have TEVA listed for earnings (07:22 am) JoeyTSA :never got that breakout on SNDK from premarket mention, turned into decent short though, wasnt in it (07:24 am) taco :think im wrong re TEVA earnings (07:25 am) JoeyTSA :maybe, ihave them listed for 7/24 (07:26 am) JoeyTSA :TEVA whisper is $1.67, consensus estimate is 1.71 (07:26 am) skydiver :nice Murano on AIG (07:29 am) JoeyTSA :since pop on FSLR, nothing but lower highs (07:29 am) skydiver :TSLA - monitoring (07:30 am) Qwert :OXY holding up so far in this mkt watching for breakout (07:30 am) Qwert :if spy holds (07:31 am) skydiver :thnx qwert (07:33 am) Qwert :NAT coming back to open price (07:38 am) taco :NFLX held 251.5 (07:38 am) JoeyTSA :break time, see you in 20 (08:07 am) taco :nice DD qwert (08:08 am) JoeyTSA :DD nice both ways (08:09 am) Qwert :i missed the short but am in the long now :)) (08:24 am) taco :ed, do you use after mrkt and pre markt s/r when a stock moves as much as NFLX did? (08:25 am) Ed :yes (08:37 am) JoeyTSA :glad i was watching HLF, still missed the trade (08:38 am) JoeyTSA :AMZN, NFLX lod area (08:38 am) Qwert :i missed as well joey hahaha (08:39 am) JoeyTSA :gave me a dbl bot, no divergence but decent on support level (08:40 am) taco :joey, whats the pin you and shark were talking about? (08:40 am) JoeyTSA :its an options thing... (08:41 am) JoeyTSA :on expiration day, looking to see if a stock pins at a certain price (08:41 am) taco :ah thx, i found info on pinochio bar but diff. (08:41 am) JoeyTSA :ie: if you know or can tell NFLX will pin at $250, you can sell the higher calls/lower puts and take in premium (08:42 am) taco :right (08:42 am) JoeyTSA :or again, if you kjnow NFLX will close friday @ $250, and its at $247, it might be a decent long going into the close (08:43 am) JoeyTSA :those are just ideas/thoughts on pinning, not recommendation to attempt blindly (08:43 am) taco :right ty (08:44 am) JoeyTSA :if you google " weekly option pinning " or something to that effect, you will get a few hits to articles etc (08:45 am) JoeyTSA :cant say i would trade solely off what i THINK might be the pin level though (08:46 am) JoeyTSA :but if i see conjunction with other things, then a trade might set up (08:48 am) JoeyTSA :the one thing you dont want to do is overload your brain with a bunch of different setups to look for (08:48 am) taco :nice thanks, right (08:52 am) taco :there were noo shorts at IB for USU when it was at 13.50, still none must be painful.. (08:53 am) Murano :none at Lightspeed (08:53 am) JoeyTSA :didnt even bother to look... (08:53 am) JoeyTSA :Lightspeed had it listed as T, usually means not shortable (08:54 am) JoeyTSA :eye on USU for break over $15 though (08:56 am) Qwert :couldnt find any Mitch (08:56 am) JoeyTSA :good thing about that is, you only have to look for trades in 1 direction :) (08:58 am) JoeyTSA :quick break, back in 30 (08:58 am) taco :NBS had nice move, enjoy joey (09:01 am) taco :TSLA dbl bot (09:38 am) JoeyTSA :hope someone got HLF (09:38 am) taco :i have same pp as you for futures joey (09:39 am) regatta :watching HERO, low price (09:43 am) JoeyTSA :taco, my pp is actually set at 1689.75 is that where yours is? (09:44 am) JoeyTSA :ps: nice call on the TSLA dbl bot (09:44 am) taco :no its bang on 1690.00 (09:44 am) JoeyTSA :weird how they are off a bit (09:44 am) taco :closer than for stocks tho (09:45 am) JoeyTSA :im not using ninja for stocks.. (09:45 am) JoeyTSA :but my Tradestation pivots are different than my Lightspeed pivots (09:45 am) taco :for futures? (09:45 am) JoeyTSA :so i just basically use whichever, depending on the platform i am watching (09:46 am) JoeyTSA :yes, ninja only for futures (09:46 am) taco :ok (09:47 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX testing $250 (09:56 am) taco :HERO was nice off support (10:00 am) victor51 :Hi Joey (10:05 am) JoeyTSA :hey victor, how have you been? and how is your relative doing? (10:07 am) Qwert :Joey u trade /TF (10:08 am) JoeyTSA :i have, but not today (10:08 am) JoeyTSA :actually been a few weeks (10:08 am) Qwert :how many tics do you trail your stops? (10:08 am) JoeyTSA :i still watch it time to time, but more focused on /ES,/YM,/CL (10:09 am) JoeyTSA :it changes depending on the action, but i start it off usually at 10 (10:10 am) Qwert :okay thx do you do the same with /CL? (10:10 am) JoeyTSA :also, usually dont trail, i set a profit target and usually get out there (10:10 am) Qwert :10 tics profit tgt? (10:10 am) JoeyTSA :yeah, again kind of depends on the previous move (10:11 am) JoeyTSA :when i use an atm, i have it set at 10, but usually move it (10:11 am) JoeyTSA :its kind of like playing checkers h aha (10:12 am) JoeyTSA :move one piece, then another :) (10:12 am) Qwert :okay thanks have been watching it a little here and there? (10:12 am) Qwert :sorry that wasnt a question (10:12 am) JoeyTSA :then at times i just keep them static, whichever hits first hits (10:13 am) taco :Murano, did you trade MAT? (10:13 am) JoeyTSA :sorry it isnt really a concrete answer, i tend to trade instinctively at times..and do a lot of guessing (10:13 am) Qwert :oh its okay i totally undersdtand (10:14 am) JoeyTSA :main thing i try to do with stocks and futures is to keep myself from taking a big loss (10:14 am) Murano :yes, taco small profit and got stopped 2nd time MAT (10:15 am) JoeyTSA :if you keep your r/r high enough, you dont need a high hitrate to be profitable (10:15 am) JoeyTSA :problem is when the r/r you want isnt hit, thats where flexibility comes in (10:16 am) victor51 :Joey, I was with him last week. Doing much better with 70% improvement. Gaining weight and will try new stuff for last 30%. Thanks for asking. (10:17 am) JoeyTSA :good to hear victor, continued prayers (10:18 am) JoeyTSA :tighten NFLX if long off $250, im not in it (10:19 am) JoeyTSA :retest was nice though, the $250C went from $5.50 to over $7 (10:19 am) taco :ya beauty (10:20 am) JoeyTSA :not bad for about 20min (10:21 am) JoeyTSA :keep eye on it, lunch time for me, see you soon (10:22 am) Qwert :enjoy joey (10:44 am) taco :DPZ like the whole # (11:04 am) JoeyTSA :qwert : JNPR has earnings today (11:04 am) JoeyTSA :not sure when (11:05 am) Qwert :yeah i saw that (11:06 am) JoeyTSA :HLF now trying to hold $58 (11:20 am) pirate :watching HLF (11:23 am) Murano :CAT weak bounce so far (11:25 am) regatta :watching BLMN (11:31 am) JoeyTSA :DUST $3 selloff past 15 minutes or so (11:42 am) JoeyTSA :is today earnings for AAPL? (11:43 am) Qwert :i think so joey (11:43 am) Murano :yes APPL is today (11:43 am) JoeyTSA :thx, wasnt on my normal weekly earnings list, but noticed it at earningswhisper (11:44 am) JoeyTSA :got it, not i see it on both thanks again (11:44 am) JoeyTSA :now not not (11:46 am) JoeyTSA :noticed the AAPL options wer a bit higher priced (11:55 am) JoeyTSA :pretty decent bounce on HLF from the bottom (11:55 am) taco :sure was (11:55 am) taco :is (11:56 am) JoeyTSA :been using the 50c lines well (12:01 pm) pirate :watching DPZ (12:04 pm) taco :domioes pizza, had earnings this morn (12:04 pm) skydiver :HLF - very nice. thanks . . . at office and jumped on it (12:04 pm) JoeyTSA :yeah, HLF nice (12:04 pm) skydiver :I came in late, but making some profit (12:05 pm) JoeyTSA :you always do haha (12:05 pm) skydiver :try :) (12:05 pm) taco :nice sky:) (12:05 pm) skydiver :was in middle of a meeting with screen up and said excuse me for a moment and jumped in :) (12:06 pm) taco :haha (12:06 pm) skydiver :all out of HLF for now and back to meeting :) (12:06 pm) JoeyTSA :good job, that high vol sell candle was a nice signal (12:06 pm) skydiver :yes (12:07 pm) JoeyTSA :i didnt get the full move, but happy the a piece (12:07 pm) skydiver ::) (12:07 pm) JoeyTSA :with (12:08 pm) pirate :DPZ might have similiar candle with a lower low (12:11 pm) taco :at whispers DPZ was supposed to have 18% volatility and after it reported and nothing happened i diregarded it (12:12 pm) pirate :lookin like its just gonna base and not rebound much (12:14 pm) JoeyTSA :AAPL pulling back a bit (12:17 pm) Ed :anyone ever trade /NQ (12:18 pm) JoeyTSA :never actually traded it, but used to monitor it a year or 2 ago (12:18 pm) Ed :guess not much bang for buck (12:18 pm) Ed :not like other futures (12:18 pm) JoeyTSA :$5/tick just like /YM (12:19 pm) Ed :i always correlate to /CL and /GC (12:20 pm) JoeyTSA :makes decent moves though (12:20 pm) JoeyTSA :just brought it back up (12:20 pm) Ed :ok (12:20 pm) herman :been in and out all morning , Has it been a good day (12:21 pm) herman :yelp looks good pop (12:21 pm) JoeyTSA :early was decent, middle got boring for me (12:21 pm) taco :miss your calls herman:) (12:24 pm) Qwert :same here joey seemed to slow down early and then some strange action (12:26 pm) taco :LL is before mrkt open tomorrow with 18% volatility (12:30 pm) JoeyTSA :nice selection of earnings tomorrow + the crude inv report (12:32 pm) JoeyTSA :HLF still moving (12:32 pm) JoeyTSA :up and over $59 (12:33 pm) taco :ya beauty (12:39 pm) JoeyTSA :wouldnt surprise me to see AAPL touch $400, maybe $390 after hours (12:40 pm) Qwert :did u see how expensive the puts are? (12:40 pm) JoeyTSA :not going to gamble though (12:40 pm) JoeyTSA :puts arent too bad (12:40 pm) Qwert :yeah will just wait till tomorrow (12:41 pm) JoeyTSA :agreed, i dont like to guess anymore than i already do :) (12:41 pm) Qwert ::)) (12:42 pm) JoeyTSA :never liked holding thru earnings when i was a swing trader (12:43 pm) Qwert :same here got burned doing that so quit (12:43 pm) JoeyTSA :both premarket breakout stocks i put up turned into duds (12:43 pm) JoeyTSA :never got a trade in SNDK, and GMCR hit me with a small loss (12:45 pm) JoeyTSA :got burned a couple times also qwert, do much better playing either the run up as a swing or play the stock next day after release (12:46 pm) JoeyTSA :Ed : /NQ on nice selloff since hitting S1 res 45 min ago (12:46 pm) JoeyTSA :not in it, but have chart up since you mentioned it earlier (12:46 pm) Ed :yea i played that and TF (12:47 pm) JoeyTSA :down 11pts, which is 44t (12:47 pm) Ed :thx (12:48 pm) Ed :hmm was wondering why no news, my vol was turned off (12:48 pm) JoeyTSA ::) (12:49 pm) JoeyTSA :GOOG down about $5 past 15min (12:51 pm) Murano :done for the day, see you tomorrow (12:51 pm) taco :bye murano have nice night (12:51 pm) Qwert :cya murano (12:52 pm) herman :bye murano (12:53 pm) Ed :nice call joey (12:54 pm) taco :thx ed (12:57 pm) JoeyTSA :yeah Ed, looks like AAPL expected at 4:35ET, conference call at 5 ET (12:57 pm) JoeyTSA :sure looks like someone knows something already though :) (12:57 pm) Ed :thx (12:59 pm) taco :thanks Mitch Ed Joey Qwert, and everyone, have a great rest of your day. will watch appl too.. (12:59 pm) JoeyTSA :bye taco (01:00 pm) herman :bye taco (01:00 pm) JoeyTSA :Thanks Mitch,Ed,Qwert, everyone, enjoy your day, see you tomorrow (01:00 pm) Qwert :bye everyone cya in the am (01:01 pm) so :you too (01:01 pm) herman :see you am (01:03 pm) victor51 :Bye everyone. (05:10 am) taco :gm Qwert and everyone (05:11 am) taco :/GC is moving nice (05:21 am) taco :/CL looking for bottom.. (05:23 am) Qwert :gm everyone CL is nice (05:28 am) taco :NFLX had big move last night for earnings, should be good today (05:50 am) taco :FIRE is potential aquisition (05:53 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning Mitch,Qwert,everyone (05:54 am) JoeyTSA :HPI # in 5 minutes, Rochmond manufacturing # @ 7pdt (05:55 am) JoeyTSA :early gap down ; NFLX,PENN,QXII,ISIS,RYAAY (05:56 am) JoeyTSA :early gap up : FIREmPANW,DD,CSE,FTNT,PACW (05:56 am) JoeyTSA :thx taco for FIRE info (05:57 am) JoeyTSA :FIRE being bought by CSCO (05:57 am) taco :np looked like a buyout. thx for gaps joey (05:58 am) JoeyTSA :yeahm anytime i see a gap with price stuck i assume some type of buyout etc (05:58 am) taco :right (06:00 am) taco :ARRY gap up also (06:02 am) JoeyTSA :ARRY had positive tests for an asthma drug (06:02 am) JoeyTSA :2 nice moves on /CL so far (06:03 am) taco :yes (06:03 am) JoeyTSA :actually 4, might as well play it while its hot (06:05 am) taco :nice trendline top /CL (06:13 am) JoeyTSA :watching /CL 106, 106.25 range for move (06:14 am) JoeyTSA :/ES in 2 pt range at the moment (06:14 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning Ed, Murano, everyone else who signed in after last gm :) (06:14 am) taco :not sure what QXII is joey, maybe typo? (06:14 am) Murano :good morning (06:15 am) taco :yes:) (06:16 am) skydiver :Nice Mitdh -- looking forward to beta version 3 -- (06:17 am) skydiver :gm all by the way (06:18 am) taco :lot of good premrkt setups, should be good morn (06:20 am) JoeyTSA :thx for list Mitch (06:20 am) taco :thx mitch (06:20 am) JoeyTSA :yes, that was a type, its QSII (06:21 am) JoeyTSA :both FIRE and PANW giving nice pullback (06:21 am) taco :whenever i type wrong symbol my wife thinks im playing space invaers lol (06:21 am) herman :gm everyone (06:24 am) JoeyTSA :my wife thinks this is just one big video game (06:26 am) taco :) (06:35 am) JoeyTSA :quick moves so far, /ES still stuck in 2pt range (06:41 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX bery strong so far (06:41 am) JoeyTSA :very (06:42 am) JoeyTSA :AAPL a bit weak, GOOG trying to hold $910 (06:47 am) JoeyTSA :GMCR still on my radar though (06:48 am) JoeyTSA :order on GMCR got filled quick, in hindsight should have waited, but thats trading (06:49 am) skydiver :TSLA - coming up to a double top (06:49 am) JoeyTSA :good catch sky (06:49 am) skydiver ::) (06:51 am) JoeyTSA :/CL might be a lower tick trade idea, may not even be worth the risk (06:52 am) skydiver :out 3/4 on TSLA long (06:52 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX,LNKD look to be coiling for something (06:52 am) JoeyTSA :great trade sky, held 123 and went up (06:52 am) taco :nice sky:) (06:53 am) skydiver :TSLA been nice to me past couple of days (06:53 am) JoeyTSA :AMGN a bit weak, just watching (06:53 am) skydiver :all out of TSLA long (06:53 am) JoeyTSA :TSLA is your new JOY :) (06:53 am) skydiver :I gues :) (06:54 am) JoeyTSA :/ES just stuck in the mud (06:54 am) JoeyTSA :my shorter tick chart looks funny (06:55 am) JoeyTSA :mistake #2 today, didnt reverse my GMCR position (06:56 am) JoeyTSA :thx Ed (06:57 am) JoeyTSA :missed nice breakout on WAT with that move to $100, on watch (06:58 am) skydiver :I mis handled GPOR - shorted to quick, but held on, fianlly coming down into profit (07:00 am) skydiver :all out of GPOR short - (07:02 am) skydiver :reminder to self -- do not look at the money - need more discipline there (07:04 am) JoeyTSA :that was a huge miss on the richmond # (07:04 am) JoeyTSA :only missed by 18 haha (07:05 am) skydiver :that was a huge miss -- wow (07:05 am) JoeyTSA :/ES lost that early range, trying to hold 1690 here (07:05 am) JoeyTSA :yeah sky, forex factory had 7 as the forecast, 8 was the previous month, so -11 is ugly (07:06 am) skydiver :I guess -- crazy (07:06 am) JoeyTSA :just not sure how that makes me money :) (07:06 am) skydiver :if you find out, let all of us know :) (07:06 am) JoeyTSA ::) (07:11 am) JoeyTSA :watchign /CL here (07:15 am) taco :think just had earnings (07:15 am) JoeyTSA :very nice on TEVA (07:16 am) skydiver :Mylan announces favoriable ruling ni patent infringement case relating to TEVA (07:16 am) taco :thx sky (07:17 am) skydiver ::) (07:17 am) taco :i think that's from july 18th (07:17 am) skydiver :sorry -- you're correct . . . old old old news - need coffee!! (07:18 am) taco :lol (07:20 am) JoeyTSA :i didnt even have TEVA listed for earnings (07:22 am) JoeyTSA :never got that breakout on SNDK from premarket mention, turned into decent short though, wasnt in it (07:24 am) taco :think im wrong re TEVA earnings (07:25 am) JoeyTSA :maybe, ihave them listed for 7/24 (07:26 am) JoeyTSA :TEVA whisper is $1.67, consensus estimate is 1.71 (07:26 am) skydiver :nice Murano on AIG (07:29 am) JoeyTSA :since pop on FSLR, nothing but lower highs (07:29 am) skydiver :TSLA - monitoring (07:30 am) Qwert :OXY holding up so far in this mkt watching for breakout (07:30 am) Qwert :if spy holds (07:31 am) skydiver :thnx qwert (07:33 am) Qwert :NAT coming back to open price (07:38 am) taco :NFLX held 251.5 (07:38 am) JoeyTSA :break time, see you in 20 (08:07 am) taco :nice DD qwert (08:08 am) JoeyTSA :DD nice both ways (08:09 am) Qwert :i missed the short but am in the long now :)) (08:24 am) taco :ed, do you use after mrkt and pre markt s/r when a stock moves as much as NFLX did? (08:25 am) Ed :yes (08:37 am) JoeyTSA :glad i was watching HLF, still missed the trade (08:38 am) JoeyTSA :AMZN, NFLX lod area (08:38 am) Qwert :i missed as well joey hahaha (08:39 am) JoeyTSA :gave me a dbl bot, no divergence but decent on support level (08:40 am) taco :joey, whats the pin you and shark were talking about? (08:40 am) JoeyTSA :its an options thing... (08:41 am) JoeyTSA :on expiration day, looking to see if a stock pins at a certain price (08:41 am) taco :ah thx, i found info on pinochio bar but diff. (08:41 am) JoeyTSA :ie: if you know or can tell NFLX will pin at $250, you can sell the higher calls/lower puts and take in premium (08:42 am) taco :right (08:42 am) JoeyTSA :or again, if you kjnow NFLX will close friday @ $250, and its at $247, it might be a decent long going into the close (08:43 am) JoeyTSA :those are just ideas/thoughts on pinning, not recommendation to attempt blindly (08:43 am) taco :right ty (08:44 am) JoeyTSA :if you google " weekly option pinning " or something to that effect, you will get a few hits to articles etc (08:45 am) JoeyTSA :cant say i would trade solely off what i THINK might be the pin level though (08:46 am) JoeyTSA :but if i see conjunction with other things, then a trade might set up (08:48 am) JoeyTSA :the one thing you dont want to do is overload your brain with a bunch of different setups to look for (08:48 am) taco :nice thanks, right (08:52 am) taco :there were noo shorts at IB for USU when it was at 13.50, still none must be painful.. (08:53 am) Murano :none at Lightspeed (08:53 am) JoeyTSA :didnt even bother to look... (08:53 am) JoeyTSA :Lightspeed had it listed as T, usually means not shortable (08:54 am) JoeyTSA :eye on USU for break over $15 though (08:56 am) Qwert :couldnt find any Mitch (08:56 am) JoeyTSA :good thing about that is, you only have to look for trades in 1 direction :) (08:58 am) JoeyTSA :quick break, back in 30 (08:58 am) taco :NBS had nice move, enjoy joey (09:01 am) taco :TSLA dbl bot (09:38 am) JoeyTSA :hope someone got HLF (09:38 am) taco :i have same pp as you for futures joey (09:39 am) regatta :watching HERO, low price (09:43 am) JoeyTSA :taco, my pp is actually set at 1689.75 is that where yours is? (09:44 am) JoeyTSA :ps: nice call on the TSLA dbl bot (09:44 am) taco :no its bang on 1690.00 (09:44 am) JoeyTSA :weird how they are off a bit (09:44 am) taco :closer than for stocks tho (09:45 am) JoeyTSA :im not using ninja for stocks.. (09:45 am) JoeyTSA :but my Tradestation pivots are different than my Lightspeed pivots (09:45 am) taco :for futures? (09:45 am) JoeyTSA :so i just basically use whichever, depending on the platform i am watching (09:46 am) JoeyTSA :yes, ninja only for futures (09:46 am) taco :ok (09:47 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX testing $250 (09:56 am) taco :HERO was nice off support (10:00 am) victor51 :Hi Joey (10:05 am) JoeyTSA :hey victor, how have you been? and how is your relative doing? (10:07 am) Qwert :Joey u trade /TF (10:08 am) JoeyTSA :i have, but not today (10:08 am) JoeyTSA :actually been a few weeks (10:08 am) Qwert :how many tics do you trail your stops? (10:08 am) JoeyTSA :i still watch it time to time, but more focused on /ES,/YM,/CL (10:09 am) JoeyTSA :it changes depending on the action, but i start it off usually at 10 (10:10 am) Qwert :okay thx do you do the same with /CL? (10:10 am) JoeyTSA :also, usually dont trail, i set a profit target and usually get out there (10:10 am) Qwert :10 tics profit tgt? (10:10 am) JoeyTSA :yeah, again kind of depends on the previous move (10:11 am) JoeyTSA :when i use an atm, i have it set at 10, but usually move it (10:11 am) JoeyTSA :its kind of like playing checkers h aha (10:12 am) JoeyTSA :move one piece, then another :) (10:12 am) Qwert :okay thanks have been watching it a little here and there? (10:12 am) Qwert :sorry that wasnt a question (10:12 am) JoeyTSA :then at times i just keep them static, whichever hits first hits (10:13 am) taco :Murano, did you trade MAT? (10:13 am) JoeyTSA :sorry it isnt really a concrete answer, i tend to trade instinctively at times..and do a lot of guessing (10:13 am) Qwert :oh its okay i totally undersdtand (10:14 am) JoeyTSA :main thing i try to do with stocks and futures is to keep myself from taking a big loss (10:14 am) Murano :yes, taco small profit and got stopped 2nd time MAT (10:15 am) JoeyTSA :if you keep your r/r high enough, you dont need a high hitrate to be profitable (10:15 am) JoeyTSA :problem is when the r/r you want isnt hit, thats where flexibility comes in (10:16 am) victor51 :Joey, I was with him last week. Doing much better with 70% improvement. Gaining weight and will try new stuff for last 30%. Thanks for asking. (10:17 am) JoeyTSA :good to hear victor, continued prayers (10:18 am) JoeyTSA :tighten NFLX if long off $250, im not in it (10:19 am) JoeyTSA :retest was nice though, the $250C went from $5.50 to over $7 (10:19 am) taco :ya beauty (10:20 am) JoeyTSA :not bad for about 20min (10:21 am) JoeyTSA :keep eye on it, lunch time for me, see you soon (10:22 am) Qwert :enjoy joey (10:44 am) taco :DPZ like the whole # (11:04 am) JoeyTSA :qwert : JNPR has earnings today (11:04 am) JoeyTSA :not sure when (11:05 am) Qwert :yeah i saw that (11:06 am) JoeyTSA :HLF now trying to hold $58 (11:20 am) pirate :watching HLF (11:23 am) Murano :CAT weak bounce so far (11:25 am) regatta :watching BLMN (11:31 am) JoeyTSA :DUST $3 selloff past 15 minutes or so (11:42 am) JoeyTSA :is today earnings for AAPL? (11:43 am) Qwert :i think so joey (11:43 am) Murano :yes APPL is today (11:43 am) JoeyTSA :thx, wasnt on my normal weekly earnings list, but noticed it at earningswhisper (11:44 am) JoeyTSA :got it, not i see it on both thanks again (11:44 am) JoeyTSA :now not not (11:46 am) JoeyTSA :noticed the AAPL options wer a bit higher priced (11:55 am) JoeyTSA :pretty decent bounce on HLF from the bottom (11:55 am) taco :sure was (11:55 am) taco :is (11:56 am) JoeyTSA :been using the 50c lines well (12:01 pm) pirate :watching DPZ (12:04 pm) taco :domioes pizza, had earnings this morn (12:04 pm) skydiver :HLF - very nice. thanks . . . at office and jumped on it (12:04 pm) JoeyTSA :yeah, HLF nice (12:04 pm) skydiver :I came in late, but making some profit (12:05 pm) JoeyTSA :you always do haha (12:05 pm) skydiver :try :) (12:05 pm) taco :nice sky:) (12:05 pm) skydiver :was in middle of a meeting with screen up and said excuse me for a moment and jumped in :) (12:06 pm) taco :haha (12:06 pm) skydiver :all out of HLF for now and back to meeting :) (12:06 pm) JoeyTSA :good job, that high vol sell candle was a nice signal (12:06 pm) skydiver :yes (12:07 pm) JoeyTSA :i didnt get the full move, but happy the a piece (12:07 pm) skydiver ::) (12:07 pm) JoeyTSA :with (12:08 pm) pirate :DPZ might have similiar candle with a lower low (12:11 pm) taco :at whispers DPZ was supposed to have 18% volatility and after it reported and nothing happened i diregarded it (12:12 pm) pirate :lookin like its just gonna base and not rebound much (12:14 pm) JoeyTSA :AAPL pulling back a bit (12:17 pm) Ed :anyone ever trade /NQ (12:18 pm) JoeyTSA :never actually traded it, but used to monitor it a year or 2 ago (12:18 pm) Ed :guess not much bang for buck (12:18 pm) Ed :not like other futures (12:18 pm) JoeyTSA :$5/tick just like /YM (12:19 pm) Ed :i always correlate to /CL and /GC (12:20 pm) JoeyTSA :makes decent moves though (12:20 pm) JoeyTSA :just brought it back up (12:20 pm) Ed :ok (12:20 pm) herman :been in and out all morning , Has it been a good day (12:21 pm) herman :yelp looks good pop (12:21 pm) JoeyTSA :early was decent, middle got boring for me (12:21 pm) taco :miss your calls herman:) (12:24 pm) Qwert :same here joey seemed to slow down early and then some strange action (12:26 pm) taco :LL is before mrkt open tomorrow with 18% volatility (12:30 pm) JoeyTSA :nice selection of earnings tomorrow + the crude inv report (12:32 pm) JoeyTSA :HLF still moving (12:32 pm) JoeyTSA :up and over $59 (12:33 pm) taco :ya beauty (12:39 pm) JoeyTSA :wouldnt surprise me to see AAPL touch $400, maybe $390 after hours (12:40 pm) Qwert :did u see how expensive the puts are? (12:40 pm) JoeyTSA :not going to gamble though (12:40 pm) JoeyTSA :puts arent too bad (12:40 pm) Qwert :yeah will just wait till tomorrow (12:41 pm) JoeyTSA :agreed, i dont like to guess anymore than i already do :) (12:41 pm) Qwert ::)) (12:42 pm) JoeyTSA :never liked holding thru earnings when i was a swing trader (12:43 pm) Qwert :same here got burned doing that so quit (12:43 pm) JoeyTSA :both premarket breakout stocks i put up turned into duds (12:43 pm) JoeyTSA :never got a trade in SNDK, and GMCR hit me with a small loss (12:45 pm) JoeyTSA :got burned a couple times also qwert, do much better playing either the run up as a swing or play the stock next day after release (12:46 pm) JoeyTSA :Ed : /NQ on nice selloff since hitting S1 res 45 min ago (12:46 pm) JoeyTSA :not in it, but have chart up since you mentioned it earlier (12:46 pm) Ed :yea i played that and TF (12:47 pm) JoeyTSA :down 11pts, which is 44t (12:47 pm) Ed :thx (12:48 pm) Ed :hmm was wondering why no news, my vol was turned off (12:48 pm) JoeyTSA ::) (12:49 pm) JoeyTSA :GOOG down about $5 past 15min (12:51 pm) Murano :done for the day, see you tomorrow (12:51 pm) taco :bye murano have nice night (12:51 pm) Qwert :cya murano (12:52 pm) herman :bye murano (12:53 pm) Ed :nice call joey (12:54 pm) taco :thx ed (12:57 pm) JoeyTSA :yeah Ed, looks like AAPL expected at 4:35ET, conference call at 5 ET (12:57 pm) JoeyTSA :sure looks like someone knows something already though :) (12:57 pm) Ed :thx (12:59 pm) taco :thanks Mitch Ed Joey Qwert, and everyone, have a great rest of your day. will watch appl too.. (12:59 pm) JoeyTSA :bye taco (01:00 pm) herman :bye taco (01:00 pm) JoeyTSA :Thanks Mitch,Ed,Qwert, everyone, enjoy your day, see you tomorrow (01:00 pm) Qwert :bye everyone cya in the am (01:01 pm) so :you too (01:01 pm) herman :see you am (01:03 pm) victor51 :Bye everyone.
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