Chat Highlights From 07/17/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:20 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:28 am] Peter H: Good Morning Traders. I will be sitting in for Mitch this morning.
[06:29 am] Peter H: Thank You
[06:29 am] Peter H: Thank you joeytsa
[06:30 am] Peter H: QCOM
[06:30 am] Peter H: I am watching ERJ for a short this morning
[06:31 am] Peter H: ZMH
[06:32 am] Peter H: IMAX
[06:33 am] Peter H: Watching UA
[06:34 am] Peter H: Watching RKT
[06:34 am] Peter H: Watching SINA
[06:35 am] Peter H: watching ZMH
[06:35 am] Peter H: KSU
[06:37 am] Peter H: watching MON
[06:38 am] Peter H: watching YOKU
[06:38 am] Peter H: VVUS
[06:40 am] Peter H: watching NCR
06:41 am] Peter H: OREX
[06:42 am] Peter H: sorry LRCX
[06:42 am] Peter H: watching LCRX
[06:44 am] Peter H: watching SWN
[06:44 am] Peter H: watching NTES
[06:46 am] Peter H: FB new low
[06:47 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[06:48 am] Peter H: VSI, PII
[06:50 am] Peter H: watching ALNY
[06:53 am] Peter H: watching NTES
[06:54 am] Peter H: watching KO
[06:55 am] Peter H: VHC
[06:56 am] Peter H: watching  VMW
[06:57 am] Peter H: SYNC
[06:58 am] Peter H: Watching EDU for short
[06:59 am] Peter H: KO turned
[07:03 am] Peter H: JBHT
[07:04 am] Ed : monitor BIDU at 100 level ADVANCED trade can go eiher way long/short
[07:04 am] Peter H: QIHU
[07:06 am] Ed : more selling in markets
[07:08 am] Peter H: APOL
[07:12 am] Ed : reducing 3/4 BIDU long
[07:13 am] Peter H: watching TSLA
[07:14 am] Peter H: watching THRX
[07:26 am] Peter H: watching MMR
[07:26 am] Peter H: watching EAT
[07:29 am] Peter H: watching JBHT. Support at 54.05
[07:40 am] Peter H: watching MAT
[07:45 am] Ed : monitoring EBAY for potential long
[07:48 am] Ed : slight bounce in SPY
[07:52 am] Ed : monitoring DISH for potential short
[07:53 am] Ed : would like a move to the 29.19 area
[07:58 am] Peter H: watching SOHU
[07:58 am] Ed : placing stop last 1/4 BIDU long 101.69 below consolidation
[07:59 am] Peter H: MMR broke resistance
[07:59 am] Peter H: HBC broke support
[08:00 am] Ed : reducing 3/4 long EBAY
[08:00 am] Ed : placing stop last 1/4 EBAY long at breakeven 38.23
[08:18 am] Ed : also trading at trendline resistance
[08:18 am] Ed : getting pullback in SPY
[08:23 am] Peter H: watching KSU
[08:30 am] Peter H: BAX alert
[08:35 am] Ed : FYI: Mitch went to his daughters graduation and will be back tomorrow
[08:38 am] Ed : nice bounce in SPY
[08:39 am] Peter H: watching MLNX
[08:41 am] Peter H: watching THRX
[08:44 am] Peter H: watching ALNY
[08:45 am] Peter H: watching PNRA
[09:14 am] Ed : getting pullback in SPY
[09:24 am] Peter H: VVUS
[09:33 am] Ed : SPY trading near hod
[09:53 am] Ed : getting pullback in SPY into potenital support
[10:05 am] Peter H: MODL alert
[10:16 am] Peter H: MODL discloses $17 takeover offer
[10:25 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[10:33 am] Peter H: VVUS falling
[10:37 am] Ed : looking for more selling vol
[10:37 am] Ed : just monitoring BMRN
[10:44 am] Ed : reducing 3/4 BMRN long
[10:44 am] Ed : als=also
[10:44 am] Ed : monitoring RRC for potential short als
[10:44 am] Ed : will trail last 1/4 long BMRN
[10:45 am] Ed : on RRC would prefer a move closer to 63ish area
[10:46 am] Ed : due to consolidation just under 61.88
[11:39 am] Ed : SPY trading in tight range at highs
[11:49 am] Ed : just mentioning
[11:49 am] Ed : nice uptrend in LAMR
[11:57 am] Ed : nice breakout in SPY
[12:26 pm] Ed : if u took RKT short would cover some here
[12:29 pm] Ed : SPY broke range
[12:45 pm] Ed : out all RKT short
[12:58 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders, thanks a million Peter
[12:59 pm] Peter H: Have a wonderful evening all. It was nice to be with you all. Thanks!

[05:56 am] eyes  : Good Morning Ed Joey Austria Shorty
[05:56 am] Ed : hey eyes joey austria shorty
[05:57 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Ed, eyes..everyone
[06:00 am] qwert  : good morning to everybody  :)
[06:07 am] eyes  : how do i buy Premarket on TS
[06:08 am] eyes  : EDU BIG GAP
[06:09 am] Ed : just by placing as limit,
[06:09 am] eyes  : So Day not Day+
[06:10 am] khall  : morning all
[06:10 am] Ed : should alreeady be set
[06:11 am] eddy  : hi all
[06:11 am] qwert  : EDU big volume spike
[06:11 am] joeytsa  : gap up: MAT,GS,DGIT,WOOF,CLR,KO
[06:12 am] joeytsa  : gap down: EDU,NBL,MFRM,SCSS,JBHT,CTAS,PII
[06:13 am] qwert  : thx joey
[06:14 am] joeytsa  : no prob
[06:19 am] joeytsa  : dont forget that buckethead speaks later today..should cause some movement
[06:19 am] apple  : good morning to all top traders
[06:19 am] Ed : think meeting starts 10 est
[06:19 am] joeytsa  : yeah, thats what i have listed also Ed
[06:20 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:20 am] apple  : gm lisa
[06:20 am] apple  : gm joey
[06:21 am] apple  : gm E
[06:21 am] apple  : gm qwert
[06:21 am] apple  : gm eddy
[06:21 am] apple  : gm khall
[06:21 am] apple  : gm eyes
[06:21 am] khall  : gm apple
[06:21 am] eddy  : hi apple hi everyone
[06:21 am] apple  : gm mike
[06:28 am] joeytsa  : Welcome to Peter Huffington
[06:29 am] lisas  : Hi Peter
[06:29 am] joeytsa  : good to have you aboard
[06:29 am] skydiver  : gm all and Ed and Peter
[06:29 am] khall  : Hi Peter
[06:29 am] apple  : hm PH
[06:29 am] apple  : gm
[06:29 am] apple  : gm sky
[06:29 am] skydiver  : gm apple from Colorado Springs CO :)
[06:29 am] qwert  : welcome
[06:31 am] joeytsa  : watching BIDU
[06:33 am] joeytsa  : MOS breaking over $57
[06:34 am] joeytsa  : tighten EDU if long
[06:37 am] khall  : where's Rusty - OREX is dropping :-)
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : VVUS diving
[06:38 am] joeytsa  : EDU testing $17
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : tighten MOS here
[06:49 am] Peter H: watching PPO
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : testing $58
[06:50 am] joeytsa  : BIDU trying to hold $103
[06:51 am] skydiver  : thanx to whoever called MOS -- all out of L
[06:51 am] joeytsa  : :)
[06:52 am] skydiver  : thnx joey :)   made my morning so far in this hotel :)
[06:52 am] joeytsa  : been a long time since someone thanked me from a hotel room haha
[06:53 am] eyes  : LOL
[06:53 am] skydiver  : too funny joey :)
[06:54 am] rusty  : gm
[06:54 am] skydiver  : gm rusty
[06:54 am] khall  : gm rusty
[06:54 am] rusty  : covered balance of DIMI +1.50ish
[06:55 am] rusty  : added to OREX on bounce
[06:56 am] totora  : bidu way down
[06:57 am] joeytsa  : 1350-1356.50 ES range
[06:57 am] rusty  : AEPI very thin but daily chart should be watched
[06:59 am] skydiver  : watching LEN
[06:59 am] skydiver  : report on housing index coming up
[07:00 am] Ed : Bernanke commenting
[07:01 am] skydiver  : not very positve from Bernake so far
[07:01 am] joeytsa  : ES dropped quick
[07:01 am] skydiver  : LEN is cliimbing :)
[07:01 am] skydiver  : out 3/4 LEN L
[07:02 am] skydiver  : all out of LEN L
[07:04 am] joeytsa  : MOS right back to $57
[07:05 am] skydiver  : CRM double bottom - low volume however
[07:06 am] rusty  : Talk that Einhorn is short APOL
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : BIDU has been a great short
[07:06 am] khall  : Yep, lunch and dinner money!
[07:07 am] skydiver  : I guess joey - on BIDU
[07:08 am] rusty  : OREX 6's again
[07:09 am] rusty  : stay nimble on OREX until VVUS news
[07:09 am] rusty  : i.e. cover weakness, short strength
[07:10 am] rusty  : DIMI going to zero, why do I ever cover these
[07:11 am] joeytsa  : just in case they dont?
[07:14 am] skydiver  : thnx for BIDU E
[07:14 am] skydiver  : Ed
[07:14 am] Ed : no problem
[07:15 am] Ed : Bernanke speaking
[07:15 am] gregs  : ditto ed thx for BIDU
[07:16 am] rusty  : Bernanke lookin a little tired
[07:16 am] rusty  : like the market?
[07:16 am] eyes  : Thanks Peter for IMAX
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : i would be tired too if i had been tap-dancing nonstop the past few years
[07:17 am] apple  : APOL
[07:17 am] rusty  : trading nicely
[07:17 am] rusty  : lol joey
[07:17 am] apple  : funny
[07:17 am] Peter H: ur welcome eyes
[07:19 am] skydiver  : still have my last 1/4 in BIDU
[07:20 am] skydiver  : think I'm trading better today with 2 screens in a hotel than at home with many more :)
[07:20 am] Ed : lot more volatility this am
[07:20 am] rusty  : Holiday Inn does the same for me sky
[07:20 am] apple  : good for you sky
[07:21 am] skydiver  : well - should have chose Holiday Inn this time - would have made more $$ :)
[07:21 am] Ed : specially if ur in a hotel
[07:21 am] eyes  : Ed what candle did you long Bidu
[07:21 am] rusty  : Dont use a blue light on the bed
[07:21 am] skydiver  : thanks rusty -- trying not to think about that :)
[07:22 am] skydiver  : all out of BIDU L - have to go do some hiking etc.  Have a great day all
[07:22 am] gregs  : FMCN working
[07:22 am] joeytsa  : nice one sky
[07:22 am] Ed : was small position 10:08 added after higher low at 10:11
[07:22 am] apple  : have fun sky
[07:23 am] eyes  : Thanks
[07:23 am] Peter H: take a hike, sky
[07:23 am] joeytsa  : :)
[07:23 am] Ed : have fun sky
[07:23 am] sakii  : Sky, are you staying at the Broadmoor
[07:23 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:23 am] skydiver  : ok - I'm gone
[07:24 am] skydiver  : no sakii
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : Motel 4??  :)
[07:24 am] gregs  : out FMCN long
[07:24 am] skydiver  : at the - Academy Hotel
[07:24 am] sakii  : Go there to eat if you can
[07:24 am] skydiver  : ok
[07:24 am] skydiver  : will do
[07:24 am] go4it  : Good call on BIDU Ed
[07:25 am] Ed : thx go4it
[07:25 am] eyes  : I tryed longing EDU premarket and order would not fill :(
[07:27 am] rusty  : SOHU radar
[07:30 am] rusty  : marissamayer?@marissamayer Another piece of good news today - @zackbogue and I are expecting a new baby boy! http://postcards.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/0 7/16/may
[07:30 am] rusty  : mazal tov marissa, now get to work and stfu
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : new net worth is $300M
[07:31 am] joeytsa  : her
[07:36 am] khall  : CRM triple bottom but lower highs....
[07:37 am] rusty  : PPHM worth watching based on daily chart
[07:37 am] khall  : SPY LOD
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : nice quick drop there
[07:41 am] rusty  : LXRX another one worth watching on daily chart
[07:46 am] totora  : CLF
[07:47 am] rusty  : Senator sounds like Barney Fife
[07:47 am] rusty  : with slightly deeper voice
[07:48 am] Ed : interesting how they smiled at each other, will leave at that
[07:49 am] apple  : hey totora thx
[07:50 am] rusty  : CFTC Doesn't Have Funds To Directly Oversee Futures Firms
[07:50 am] apple  : CTRP
[07:53 am] rusty  : Bernanke needs a lighting consultant
[07:55 am] khall  : These guys just like hearing themselves talk...
[07:55 am] rusty  : add to OREX short into strength
[07:56 am] rusty  : and saving some powder for any pop into VVUS news
[07:59 am] eyes  : Ed no go Dish
[08:01 am] Ed : yes it was a go
[08:02 am] eyes  : i missed it
[08:04 am] eyes  : 2 BE 2 Small Gains
[08:06 am] eyes  : I didnt give ebay a chance out BE
[08:06 am] qwert  : Ed whats your entry on dish short
[08:06 am] Ed : did not see the short
[08:06 am] Ed : until too late
[08:07 am] qwert  : thx
[08:08 am] Ed : breakin prev low entry like 38.47 would have been good
[08:09 am] Ed : did u take the long qwert on EBAY?
[08:09 am] qwert  : yep
[08:09 am] Ed : nice
[08:09 am] qwert  : long on ebay and short on dish
[08:09 am] apple  : good job qwert
[08:10 am] qwert  : dish only hamburger money
[08:10 am] qwert  : thx apple
[08:13 am] eyes  : what was your stop
[08:14 am] mh  : PDX
[08:14 am] qwert  : under 38
[08:14 am] mh  : sorry PXD
[08:15 am] eyes  : ya i got in .30 thought i was to high put a stop at BE
[08:18 am] Ed : what time was entry eyes?
[08:19 am] Ed : on ebay
[08:19 am] rusty  : SOHU
[08:19 am] eyes  : 10.46.49
[08:19 am] rusty  : LXRX coming to papa
[08:20 am] scalpman  : PXD S@ 86.15 thanks mh
[08:20 am] Ed : what u could since u felt u were too high on price, stop at breakeven, then reasses, see if stock test the lod without breaking down or puts in higher low
[08:20 am] scalpman  : Out 1/3 PXD S
[08:21 am] eyes  : Ok I will do that next time thanks ED
[08:24 am] scalpman  : OUt another 1/3 PXD S
[08:25 am] qwert  : nice scalp
[08:25 am] scalpman  : All out PXD S
[08:25 am] scalpman  : thanks qwert
[08:25 am] eyes  : so the 10.57 candle on ebay ED
[08:25 am] qwert  : :)
[08:28 am] Ed : there u go eyes
[08:28 am] Ed : u see that
[08:28 am] eyes  : Ok i see that i just thought it had to make a higher price than previous entry
[08:29 am] Ed : did not make a new low
[08:29 am] eyes  : got it
[08:29 am] Ed : also at times it will retest lod
[08:31 am] joeytsa  : BAX
[08:32 am] apple  : thx joey
[08:32 am] Ed : nice one Peter
[08:32 am] joeytsa  : i was late on that one
[08:32 am] Ed : like 20 minutes
[08:32 am] Peter H: Thank you, ED
[08:32 am] joeytsa  : :)
[08:32 am] qwert  : hahaha
[08:33 am] qwert  : did you get any bax joey
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : on those moves 20 seconds feels like 20 minutes
[08:33 am] apple  : better late than never
[08:33 am] joeytsa  : nope
[08:33 am] qwert  : missed it to
[08:33 am] Ed : after u finish with it
[08:33 am] rusty  : nice headsup on BAX
[08:33 am] rusty  : ty peter h
[08:33 am] rusty  : is peter h brent?
[08:34 am] Ed : its a secret
[08:34 am] qwert  : hahaha
[08:34 am] Peter H: No Rusty, I am Mitch's friend. He asked me to sit in for him this morning.
[08:34 am] rusty  : I came in late, was peter h properly introduced?
[08:34 am] joeytsa  : no he just pushed him out a window and stole his color  :)
[08:34 am] rusty  : Mitch has friends???????????
[08:35 am] rusty  : Newsflash
[08:35 am] Peter H: I tolorate him
[08:35 am] joeytsa  : tell Mitch that he can dvr his cartoons and get his butt back to work :)
[08:35 am] apple  : how many hands do you have peter -- that was some morning!
[08:35 am] khall  : that's a personal question apple... LOL
[08:35 am] rusty  : Mitch's daughter has graduated 3x already
[08:35 am] rusty  : just saying
[08:35 am] Ed : lol
[08:36 am] apple  : lol
[08:36 am] rusty  : What kind of skool she go to, graduating every year
[08:36 am] Peter H: Actually, he said he needed a break from Rusty. For the TSA room, he has gone for the graduation.
[08:36 am] apple  : who graduates in july?
[08:36 am] Ed : that sounds right
[08:37 am] lisas  : too funny guys, but he has several daughters doesn't he?
[08:37 am] Peter H: 3 daughters
[08:37 am] sakii  : I think he is Brent
[08:37 am] rusty  : 3 daughters, 9  graduations
[08:37 am] lisas  : no, he's making too many calls. Brent was "selective"
[08:37 am] lisas  : much fewer calls
[08:37 am] sakii  : True
[08:38 am] lisas  : unless it's Brent on crack
[08:38 am] Peter H: His daughter graduated from the basic military training today.
[08:38 am] joeytsa  : congrats to her
[08:38 am] apple  : wonderful
[08:38 am] lisas  : oh, which service?
[08:38 am] rusty  : congrats
[08:38 am] Ed : u still have portion of EBAY qwert
[08:38 am] joeytsa  : ES on a nice run past few minutes
[08:39 am] qwert  : no renetered though
[08:39 am] qwert  : reentered
[08:42 am] rusty  : neutered
[08:42 am] Peter H: Lisas, I think from the Marines.
[08:42 am] qwert  : haha rusty
[08:43 am] apple  : didn't know she was military
[08:43 am] lisas  : I wondered, they call one of their schools "The Basic School"
[08:46 am] eyes  : Any thoughts on S BAx here
[08:47 am] Ed : would place stop 55.63
[08:47 am] Ed : if u took it here
[08:48 am] eyes  : S .51
[08:48 am] Ed : I dont usually play the 2nd opportunity short
[08:48 am] Ed : does not mean it will not work just not my style
[08:48 am] Ed : nice r/r though
[08:49 am] eyes  : whats r r
[08:49 am] Ed : risk v. reward
[08:49 am] lisas  : I'm glad to know Ed has some style
[08:49 am] Ed : lol
[08:49 am] eyes  : OK just a .12 stop
[08:49 am] Ed : 1st time for everything
[08:49 am] lisas  : you'll need it when you visit Doji
[08:50 am] Ed : true
[08:50 am] lisas  : You'll have to hold VA on your own next week
[08:50 am] eyes  : now to be ed
[08:50 am] Ed : i play those tight, so if i get stopped want to see how reacts if get push closer to hod, etc
[08:51 am] rusty  : VVUS could be halted anytime
[08:51 am] Ed : thx rusty
[08:51 am] rusty  : keep an eye on ARNA OREX if and when its halted
[08:51 am] eyes  : or wait
[08:52 am] Ed : wait?
[08:52 am] rusty  : if VVUS approved, its labeling will be paramount
[08:54 am] Ed : BAX needs to lose this .35 area eyes
[08:54 am] rusty  : wait
[08:54 am] Ed : for?
[08:55 am] rusty  : sumer?
[08:55 am] Ed : lol
[08:55 am] eyes  : ok now BE
[08:56 am] eyes  : I only have 100 Shares
[08:56 am] eyes  : or wait
[08:58 am] Ed : sure eyes
[08:59 am] rusty  : RIMM 6.86....AAPL should buy them and close them down....sell Iphones to blackberry users
[08:59 am] qwert  : Eyes can you buy and sell odd lots
[08:59 am] Ed : if cant get this breakdown I would tighten or take profit and move on
[09:00 am] eyes  : I normaly trade 200 Qwert i just did not on this  i have stop at .36
[09:00 am] Ed : thats my lack of patienc speaking
[09:00 am] rusty  : e
[09:00 am] Ed : atience
[09:00 am] rusty  : p
[09:00 am] eyes  : That my Problem all my finger nails are gone
[09:01 am] Ed : lol
[09:02 am] eyes  : Not really I dont bite my finger nails all the hair is gone thou
[09:03 am] Ed : we noticed
[09:03 am] Ed : not only are we clients, but on executive board also, "hair club for men"
[09:04 am] eyes  : LOL
[09:05 am] eyes  : out .33
[09:05 am] eyes  : Lunch money
[09:06 am] qwert  : in n out  anybody?  :)
[09:06 am] Ed : now take BAX of ur screen
[09:06 am] rusty  : VIX lod, volatilitity crushed
[09:06 am] Ed : that was for eyes
[09:08 am] Ed : u get that eyes
[09:08 am] scalpman  : Time to go...a small red...one dumb mistake ate up profits and then some...
[09:08 am] scalpman  : We see you all tomorrow.
[09:08 am] eyes  : yes it is off ty
[09:08 am] scalpman  : Scalpman has left the building!
[09:08 am] rusty  : scalpman has left the building!
[09:08 am] Ed : c ya scalp
[09:08 am] qwert  : bye scalp
[09:09 am] gregs  : tried to short VIX no shares :(
[09:09 am] rusty  : use VXX greg
[09:09 am] rusty  : VXX is an excellent short into strength
[09:09 am] gregs  : oooo
[09:10 am] rusty  : there are numerous other vix etf's
[09:10 am] rusty  : that being said, vix showing complacency
[09:10 am] rusty  : at lower end of range
[09:11 am] gregs  : you use pivots rusty?
[09:12 am] rusty  : sometimes intraday
[09:12 am] gregs  : still watching them, trying to see how useful they are
[09:13 am] rusty  : i use support/resistance, overbought/oversold indicators and volume
[09:15 am] totora  : College graduation or HS ??
[09:16 am] totora  : College is celebration and HS well....
[09:16 am] totora  : more bills
[09:16 am] gregs  : gotcha rusty... maybe i'll master the basics before doing fancy stuff like pivots
[09:18 am] eyes  : rusty what indicator
[09:20 am] rusty  : stochastics, rsi, macd
[09:21 am] rusty  : whatever is available
[09:21 am] eyes  : what setting on MACD
[09:21 am] rusty  : better to ask someone else settings
[09:22 am] rusty  : for daytrades
[09:22 am] eyes  : whys that just wondering
[09:22 am] rusty  : cause I am not a settings maven
[09:22 am] gregs  : i copy mitch's MACD setup 12,26,9
[09:22 am] rusty  : i do a lot by feel
[09:23 am] eyes  : Ok thanks
[09:23 am] gregs  : rusty is psychic
[09:23 am] rusty  : psychotic too
[09:24 am] rusty  : i like to look for news driven stocks
[09:25 am] rusty  : esp when they get overbought and oversold
[09:25 am] rusty  : e.g. obesity drugs
[09:25 am] rusty  : and then concentrate on them for a tidy profit, hopefully
[09:26 am] rusty  : OREX has gone from 3 to 8 in recent day
[09:26 am] rusty  : on no news of its own really
[09:26 am] rusty  : just sympathy to other obesity rugs
[09:26 am] rusty  : drugs
[09:27 am] rusty  : so I am banking on a push into VVUS news followed by a pullback
[09:28 am] eyes  : I will see you all in a few hours
[09:28 am] rusty  : this am we got the gap and crap as expected
[09:28 am] rusty  : now playing the bounce for a second crapping so to speak
[09:29 am] rusty  : in this type of trade I would almost prefer the short goes against me for a bit
[09:29 am] rusty  : as it helps me build the short, build my average and hopefully build my profits
[09:31 am] gregs  : are you in vvus rusty
[09:31 am] rusty  : no
[09:32 am] gregs  : its pretty wild right now
[09:32 am] rusty  : makes senses, its sort of a lottery ticket at this point
[09:33 am] rusty  : if it isnt approved will get a huge haircut
[09:35 am] rusty  : id rather play the sympathy plays
[09:35 am] rusty  : cause I can do large size with more definable risk
[09:36 am] gregs  : ARNA, OREX
[09:36 am] gregs  : as sympathy
[09:37 am] rusty  : OREX mostly.   ARNA might be a play if VVUS rejected cause then it will be the only approved drug
[09:39 am] rusty  : lotta ways to play this...no doubt...i like to look for the simplest
[09:39 am] rusty  : OREX is way off from any approval
[09:39 am] rusty  : so even if it runs I have the opportunity to adjust my short and time on my side
[09:40 am] rusty  : the only long case for OREX currently is that its undervalued as compared to ARNA and VVUS if approved
[09:43 am] gregs  : short probably has more potential in the short term
[09:43 am] gregs  : probably alot of nervous buyers in there
[09:45 am] rusty  : exactly, that's what I bank on
[09:45 am] lisas  : Great info Rusty, thanks!
[09:48 am] rusty  : ur welcome, hope it helps
[09:49 am] apple  : you are a master rusty
[09:49 am] rusty  : of disaster
[09:49 am] apple  : haha, not quite
[09:54 am] rusty  : with above method I dont have to worry too much about stops
[09:54 am] rusty  : all I have to do is manage risk by not going in to the short all at once
[09:55 am] rusty  : i also dont have to worry about exact level I short at, as I can average in to the short
[09:57 am] rusty  : only thing I need is patience in waiting for the right time to start the position
[09:58 am] rusty  : leading up to the event
[09:59 am] rusty  : I am doing this with a short, but you can do this with a long in similar fashion
[10:00 am] rusty  : e.g. buying a stock into weakness, leading up to an anticipated event
[10:00 am] rusty  : but my preference happens to be short
[10:00 am] rusty  : i find that longs drive things up too high
[10:00 am] rusty  : in anticipation of event
[10:03 am] rusty  : http://www.statesmanjournal.com/usatoday/arti cle/56271594?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Health |p
[10:04 am] rusty  : see how jumpy OREX gets as it gets closer to VVUS fda decision
[10:04 am] rusty  : up and down
[10:05 am] rusty  : VVUS is the lottery ticket trade, OREX is the moneymaker
[10:06 am] rusty  : e.g. if you go long VVUS in anticipation of approval its like a lottery ticket
[10:06 am] rusty  : cause it could be rejected
[10:06 am] rusty  : and you could lose shirt
[10:06 am] rusty  : actually worse than lottery ticket
[10:08 am] rusty  : as its fully valued before full approval
[10:13 am] mh  : PXD broke
[10:13 am] victor51  : Rusty, Short not available at TS. Did you find any? I know it's late for me
[10:14 am] rusty  : plenty available
[10:14 am] rusty  : try another broker
[10:14 am] rusty  : if you are going to start a short at this level, start it small anyway
[10:14 am] rusty  : and wait for a pop hopefully
[10:15 am] rusty  : to add to your position
[10:16 am] rusty  : in this technique you short into strength, not weakness, short when it feels unnatural
[10:19 am] rusty  : DIMI dang
[10:19 am] rusty  : covered too soon lol
[10:20 am] rusty  : shoulda been shorting instead of covering
[10:21 am] Ed : nice one rusty
[10:22 am] Ed : ur specialty 20 and under, ur favorites single digits
[10:23 am] rusty  : in the sumer
[10:23 am] Ed : right
[10:23 am] rusty  : Hedge-Fund Manager Chetan Kapur Arrested on Fraud Charges
[10:23 am] Ed : laate in d eberning
[10:24 am] rusty  : No wonder he arrested, look at his name
[10:24 am] rusty  : Cheating Caper
[10:24 am] apple  : lol
[10:27 am] rusty  : Chetan Kapur is an individual of the highest integrity, who enjoys participating in and contributing to the community. He is an individual that combines insight with integrity and experience. He combines what he learns from his personal and professional lives to do better in both areas.
[10:27 am] rusty  : http://www.chetankapur.net/
[10:27 am] rusty  : you cant make that up if you tried
[10:31 am] victor51  : Hi Peter, MODL dropping. Is offer not coming thru?
[10:33 am] rusty  : VVUS ALERT
[10:34 am] Peter H: Victor51, usually these are advanced trades, very risky.
[10:34 am] Peter H: MODL rejected the bid
[10:36 am] rusty  : CIEN radar, takeover rumors
[10:36 am] rusty  : VVUS drop n pop
[10:37 am] rusty  : very jumpy prior to decision
[10:38 am] joeytsa  : cnbc: traders are now thinking, after listening to bernanke, that there is a 50/50 chance of qe3
[10:38 am] rusty  : yesterday they were thinking 75%
[10:38 am] rusty  : go figure
[10:38 am] rusty  : just look at TLT
[10:38 am] joeytsa  : yep...gotta love cnbc though
[10:44 am] aussie123  : Hey RUSTY ...I have been trying to learn how to read it...what does theTLT chart tell you?
[10:45 am] rusty  : TLT is the 20 year long bond
[10:45 am] rusty  : so as it goes up yield goes down
[10:45 am] rusty  : yield is at historical lows
[10:46 am] rusty  : people buying for return of principal rather than return on prinicipal
[10:46 am] rusty  : i am using it as a vix of sorts
[10:46 am] rusty  : shorting it into pops
[10:47 am] aussie123  : so it would be an inverse reflection of equities??
[10:47 am] rusty  : yes more or less
[10:48 am] rusty  : as yields go to lows, people should be forced into equities
[10:48 am] rusty  : is the conventional wisdom
[10:48 am] aussie123  : Thanks...Thanks...Thanks again
[10:48 am] rusty  : let me show u on chart
[10:50 am] rusty  : http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=TLT:SPY& amp;p=M&yr=10&mn=0&dy =0&id=p32142206767
[10:50 am] rusty  : relationship between stocks and long bond
[10:51 am] qwert  : Ed thx for BMRN  :))
[10:52 am] Ed : nice going qwert
[10:53 am] aussie123  : Rusty..viewed the daily Tlt...Gotcha % thanks again.
[10:56 am] rusty  : i am putting in "wish" short orders above the market in case OREX gets a pop into any sudden VVUS news
[11:00 am] aussie123  : Orex in a squeeze on the Bollinger ...Vxx popping
[11:02 am] qwert  : Ed whats your entry on RRC
[11:02 am] Ed : 62.91
[11:02 am] Ed : I took 3/4 already
[11:03 am] qwert  : 62.92 with half off at .69
[11:03 am] Ed : on 1st drop into 20ma
[11:03 am] Ed : nice
[11:03 am] qwert  : thx
[11:04 am] qwert  : moved stop to b/e on balance
[11:07 am] Ed : not much traction on downside but I wil take it
[11:07 am] qwert  : yeah acting strong
[11:11 am] rusty  : WSJ: Pilots at Continental and United Approve a Strike
[11:12 am] joeytsa  : 94% voted,  99% of them approved
[11:13 am] Ed : guess the union will break some legs on non voters
[11:13 am] joeytsa  : yep
[11:14 am] victor51  : Peter, Thanks for MODL short +3%
[11:15 am] Ed : nice going victor
[11:15 am] rusty  : http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2012/07/17/stud y-people-who-are-constantly-online-can-develo p-mental-disorders/
[11:16 am] Ed : thats why I act like I do
[11:16 am] Ed : what's rusty's excuse
[11:16 am] victor51  : Rusty, Could you please share your thoughts on short. I have lot more winners on short side. Do you think its due to summer doldrum ?
[11:17 am] victor51  : Thanks. Ed. great call for 63's entry for RRC. i was little too early to enter but got out on short quickly
[11:18 am] Ed : thx, yea I like that MODL, 3 attempts at 15 got rejected
[11:19 am] rusty  : I don't do too many market shorts, more on individual stocks/events.  Shorts acting well probably because of market and seasonal weakness
[11:20 am] rusty  : that being said, I am in a few swing shorts that barely show any weakness
[11:20 am] victor51  : Thanks Rusty. i agree with you. It seems like lot less work on shorts in this slower market
[11:24 am] victor51  : Rusty, I used to swing trading but it used to take my daiy trading profit away in a hurry. i may get back to swing in Fall
[11:25 am] rusty  : start small
[11:25 am] rusty  : nothing wrong with small profits
[11:31 am] qwert  : watching EDU
[11:33 am] eyes  : OK back did i miss anything great
[11:33 am] Ed : nice one qwert
[11:34 am] qwert  : thx
[11:34 am] eyes  : yu long qweert
[11:34 am] qwert  : 14.95 long on EDU
[11:35 am] Ed : rusty u still have some SSH short
[11:35 am] qwert  : already out 3/4 at 15.19
[11:35 am] rusty  : yes
[11:36 am] Ed : nice
[11:37 am] rusty  : USA TODAY inadvertently published a story online this morning saying the Food and Drug Administration had given approval to the diet drug Qsymia (kyoo sim ee' uh). The story was prepared in anticipation of FDA approval, but at this hour that approval is still pending.
[11:39 am] qwert  : look at BMRN at 41.50 keeps trying to pop it
[11:39 am] Ed : ppppppush
[11:40 am] eyes  : rrc looking good missed it thou
[11:40 am] qwert  : I dont see a big seller there on bmrn
[11:41 am] qwert  : Ed did you reshort rrc
[11:41 am] rusty  : STEM on radar probably for tomorrow
[11:41 am] Ed : no, saw nice signal but passed
[11:41 am] qwert  : same here
[11:42 am] Ed : those 2nd entries pay dividends, but Im so use to taking 1st entries
[11:56 am] victor51  : Hi Joey, very quite lately
[11:57 am] apple  : hey victor
[11:58 am] eyes  : Hows your day going Apple
[11:58 am] apple  : great
[11:58 am] eyes  : that is good to hear
[12:03 pm] rusty  : and see
[12:04 pm] eyes  : How about Bidu looks weak
[12:07 pm] Ed : no trade in it for me eyes
[12:07 pm] qwert  : monitoring EDU again
[12:08 pm] eyes  : I am not trading just looking
[12:09 pm] victor51  : Hi Apple, Had great vacation. Nordiac countries incl. Moscow and St. Petersburg. McD is doing very well there. All American fast food is now doing business in Moscow, Oslo, Coppenhagen. Constrctins everywhere. Moscow's subway stations are like palaces..all marbel and very fast. Subway trainsare running every two minutes. More latter on. How you doing
[12:10 pm] apple  : great to hear victor.  just don't eat junk...
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : RKT
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : good timing Ed
[12:12 pm] Ed : yea same time
[12:12 pm] apple  : thx joey & E
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : hi victor, still here on and off :)
[12:20 pm] qwert  : Ed did you short RKT
[12:20 pm] Ed : yes
[12:20 pm] qwert  : nice whats your entry
[12:23 pm] Ed : small 62.51
[12:23 pm] apple  : nice
[12:23 pm] sakii  : Thanks Ed, Peter & everyone, I have to leave a little early. Have a nice evening.
[12:23 pm] qwert  : i tried at .60 and missed  great entry
[12:24 pm] apple  : bye sakii, have fun
[12:24 pm] Ed : c ya  sakii
[12:24 pm] joeytsa  : bye sakii
[12:24 pm] victor51  : Bye saki
[12:25 pm] qwert  : cya sakii
[12:25 pm] rusty  : bye sakii
[12:25 pm] rusty  : enjoy sake
[12:26 pm] Ed : did u get the long joey
[12:26 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, i went long..not short
[12:26 pm] joeytsa  : got it late though
[12:26 pm] Ed : I new thats ur ammo
[12:27 pm] qwert  : where did u go long at joey
[12:27 pm] apple  : long and short, something for everybody
[12:27 pm] joeytsa  : break over 61.80
[12:27 pm] qwert  : nice
[12:27 pm] Ed : long was sweet
[12:27 pm] joeytsa  : 61.87 entry..a bit late
[12:28 pm] rusty  : not sure that kind of talk allowed around here
[12:28 pm] Ed : just reverse the position joey, try it 1 day
[12:28 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, i should have
[12:28 pm] Ed : ur right sorry rusty
[12:28 pm] rusty  : if Mitch was here you would be in trouble
[12:28 pm] Ed : please dont tell on me
[12:28 pm] qwert  : hahaha
[12:29 pm] Ed : I be good from now on
[12:29 pm] apple  : you always good E
[12:29 pm] joeytsa  : haa
[12:30 pm] qwert  : i still need to work on flexibility i always think reversal
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : at least it gets you to focus that way qwert
[12:31 pm] Ed : its hard to go back and forth
[12:34 pm] Ed : be careful trading now, would use much smaller position size if u decide to trade
[12:34 pm] qwert  : im just watching dont want to give back nice profits from today
[12:35 pm] Ed : the best trade at times, sit on the hands
[12:35 pm] joeytsa  : yep
[12:35 pm] qwert  : vvus has been a wild ride today
[12:36 pm] eyes  : Amen to that Ed
[12:37 pm] qwert  : eyes hows your day goin?
[12:37 pm] apple  : you got that right E, still learning... sometimes the hard way
[12:38 pm] Ed : been there b4, has to come from within to break that cycle
[12:38 pm] eyes  : I am done for the day7 trades 3 BE 1 loss 3 small profits +135 for the day
[12:39 pm] qwert  : nice
[12:39 pm] Ed : must have had some small losses eyes, greeen is good
[12:39 pm] victor51  : Joey, Thanks for RKT
[12:40 pm] joeytsa  : :)  Ed put the chart up at the same time
[12:41 pm] Ed : confirmation
[12:41 pm] rusty  : STEM radar...hopefully it gaps tomorrow
[12:42 pm] Ed : if ur new to trading or not consistent in ur trading please stay away from stocks under 20
[12:43 pm] rusty  : that's a pretty broad swipe
[12:43 pm] Ed : true
[12:44 pm] Ed : keep an eye on ALNY tomorrow also,
[12:44 pm] rusty  : wtf
[12:44 pm] rusty  : you said to stay away from stocks under 20
[12:44 pm] rusty  : im so confused now
[12:44 pm] Ed : yes and it still goes
[12:45 pm] Ed : typcial of u rusty, I was born confused
[12:45 pm] apple  : lol
[12:45 pm] rusty  : i dont know whether im coming or going
[12:45 pm] Ed : lol
[12:45 pm] rusty  : have to check mirror, brb
[12:45 pm] Ed : I left already but dont now where i went
[12:46 pm] rusty  : must be sumer
[12:46 pm] apple  : haha, brb...
[12:46 pm] Ed : truly
[12:47 pm] victor51  : Thanks everyone for EDU. Started late but had great day 4 ?4 wins.
[12:47 pm] Ed : nice going victor
[12:47 pm] apple  : great victor
[12:48 pm] rusty  : nice vector victor
[12:49 pm] eyes  : Ed can I talk to you latter on in regards to last friday
[12:50 pm] Ed : sure
[12:50 pm] eyes  : what s a good time
[12:50 pm] Ed : anytime after 6:15 est. I have  coaching session
[12:51 pm] eyes  : sounds great
[12:51 pm] eyes  : see you all Manana
[12:51 pm] Ed : c ya eyes
[12:51 pm] Ed : tsla gave it back nicely
[12:51 pm] rusty  : take care eyes
[12:52 pm] qwert  : cya eyes
[12:59 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Ed, Peter, everyone..have a great day, see you in the morning
[12:59 pm] apple  : thx peter
[12:59 pm] rusty  : enjoy the poloponies joey
[12:59 pm] qwert  : Bye everybody thx for all the great calls Peter, Ed and everybody else
[01:00 pm] rusty  : thx and gn all

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