Chat Highlights From 07/15/2011

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[06:27 am] Brent : good morning
[06:28 am] Mitch K: I’m only showing you this GOOG, Google chart for fun. Up big after earnings yesterday after the market. This may influence the tech stocks a little
[06:28 am] Kris : Good Morning Traders
[06:29 am] Kris : This morning I’m watching NWSA, RBCN, HLS, CENX, CLX and QLIK as possible shorts
[06:29 am] Kris : and I have SPPI, NOC, REDF, SWN, and CHK as possible longs
[06:30 am] Kris : SINA long
[06:30 am] Kris : NWSA short
[06:30 am] Kris : AVAV short below 31.85
[06:31 am] Kris : stop CHK below 31.44
[06:31 am] Kris : ROSE long
[06:31 am] Kris : CHK long small position
[06:32 am] Kris : start with half on QLIK, look to add on a bounce
[06:32 am] Kris : QLIK short
[06:33 am] Kris : stop SINA under 117.87
[06:33 am] Kris : RIG long
[06:34 am] Kris : REDF long
[06:35 am] Kris : RENN short small position
[06:35 am] Kris : looking for new low in NWSA
[06:35 am] Kris : stop REDF under 12.88
[06:36 am] Kris : watching AMGN for a bounce to short into
[06:36 am] Kris : NVLS short below 31.40
[06:37 am] Kris : WLL long half position
[06:37 am] Kris : stopped SINA
[06:38 am] Kris : SPY consolidating under hod[06:39 am] Kris : CLX short half position
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching VRX for a top to short
[06:40 am] Kris : RIG consolidating, looking for a new high
[06:41 am] Kris : NVLS short
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watch for a rebound to short CLX
[06:42 am] Kris : RIG new hod[06:42 am] Kris : QLIK short second half
[06:42 am] Kris : look to add to RENN if you can get it short
[06:43 am] Kris : SWC short
[06:44 am] Mitch K: EQT turning over
[06:44 am] Kris : VMED short half position
[06:45 am] Kris : watching RENN for a new low
[06:45 am] Kris : SPY new lod[06:45 am] Kris : NWSA new lows
[06:46 am] Mitch K: CNX turning over
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching EMR
[06:49 am] Mitch K: should have stopped on EQT
[06:49 am] Kris : WLL long second half
[06:49 am] Kris : SPY bouncing
[06:50 am] Kris : looking to add second half CLX short here soon
[06:50 am] Kris : look for the SPY to make a new low
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching ENDP for bottom
[06:52 am] Mitch K: ENDP looks bottoming
[06:53 am] Mitch K: watching ALXN, also monitoring VRX for short here again
[06:53 am] Kris : RIG new hod[06:54 am] Mitch K: monitor SOHU for bottom
[06:55 am] Mitch K: watch SINA for bottom, should be soon
[06:55 am] Mitch K: EQT toppy again
[06:55 am] Mitch K: Consider reducing ENDP
[06:55 am] Kris : consumer confidence numbers coming out
[06:55 am] Kris : confidence numbers came in lower than expected
[06:56 am] Mitch K: SP-500 low of day and dropping
[06:56 am] Kris : short second half CLX here
[06:57 am] Mitch K: SOHU going to give good bottom for long bounce
[06:57 am] Kris : SPY selling off
[06:57 am] Kris : RENN new lod[06:57 am] Kris : out half QLIK
[06:57 am] Kris : look to cover some RENN short here in this area
[06:59 am] Mitch K: VRX powering up, consider small long
[06:59 am] Mitch K: many stocks should bounce with indexes
[06:59 am] Kris : VRX long small position
[06:59 am] Kris : out half SWC short
[07:00 am] Kris : out half RIG long
[07:01 am] Kris : NBR long half position
[07:01 am] Kris : out another 1/4 RIG long
[07:02 am] Mitch K: consider reducing ENDP
[07:02 am] Kris : looking for CLX to make a new lod[07:03 am] Mitch K: watch for shortable top on ENDP but watch for 40.50 area and see if new highs
[07:03 am] Mitch K: consider reducing SINA
[07:03 am] Kris : out another 1/4 QLIK short
[07:04 am] Kris : looking for next new lod in RENN
[07:05 am] Kris : RIG staying with trendline, look for new highs.
[07:05 am] Kris : BAX long half position
[07:06 am] Kris : QLIK new lod[07:06 am] Kris : market acting a little manic today
[07:07 am] Mitch K: looking for CLX to make lower lows, below 73
[07:07 am] Mitch K: ENDP turning over,
[07:08 am] Mitch K: new low on CLX, that’s what you want uptick
[07:08 am] Kris : look to cover more RENN short here
[07:08 am] Kris : CLX trying to lose 73.0
[07:09 am] Mitch K: CLX should head to 72.50 area now
[07:11 am] Kris : COST short half position
[07:12 am] Kris : out 1/4 CLX short
[07:12 am] Mitch K: new low on CLX again
[07:12 am] Mitch K: if anyone is short EQT, consider covering some
[07:12 am] Mitch K: anyone else beside uptick short CLX?
[07:13 am] Mitch K: my take on CLX is probably no panic to close the short, you should be able to pick your price in increments
[07:13 am] Kris : thanks Mitch
[07:13 am] Kris : SPY trying to bounce
[07:14 am] Kris : long second half BAX
[07:16 am] Kris : no I took my +1% scalpman[07:16 am] Kris : it was a short right on the open scalpman.
[07:17 am] Mitch K: on a stock like CLX, i use these little small rebounds to get better prices on short, to add to short if i had covered some earlier
[07:17 am] Kris : yes scalpman[07:17 am] Kris : RENN still looking weak
[07:17 am] Kris : QLIK looking sickly, not much of a bounce here
[07:18 am] Kris : AMP short half position
[07:19 am] Mitch K: new low on SP-500
[07:19 am] Kris : SPY new lod[07:19 am] Kris : OSIS ALERT
[07:19 am] Kris : OSIS ALERT
[07:19 am] Kris : Brent’s scan was leaked to the internet and they’re thinking about getting rid of the scanners.
[07:19 am] Kris : body scanners bad news came out
[07:21 am] Kris : out all QLIK short
[07:22 am] Kris : out all RENN short
[07:22 am] Kris : looking for another new low in CLX
[07:23 am] Mitch K: arrange your trades to parallel the indexes uptick
[07:24 am] Mitch K: watching ESRX for bottom
[07:24 am] Kris : out another 1/4 CLX short
[07:25 am] Mitch K: CLX should get to 72 area
[07:26 am] Mitch K: never mind, OSIS too big spread
[07:26 am] Mitch K: look at OSIS for bottom, start small
[07:29 am] Mitch K: getting a bounce in SP 500, should pull up most stocks, CLX probably starts bouncing
[07:30 am] Kris : AMP short second half
[07:31 am] Mitch K: CLX looks real weak still
[07:31 am] Kris : spy still looking weak, look for lower lows
[07:34 am] Kris : short second half COST
[07:38 am] Kris : out half AMP short, looking for new lod on the rest
[07:39 am] Mitch K: consider closing CLX
[07:41 am] Kris : yes scalpman[07:43 am] Kris : I’m done with bax asantern[07:44 am] Kris : what’s your entry?
[07:44 am] Kris : no, that is fine scalpman[07:46 am] Kris : stop rest NBR long under 25.22
[07:46 am] Kris : out half NBR long
[07:49 am] Kris : Yes, I’m still long WLL
[07:49 am] Kris : stop WLL below 57.73
[07:50 am] Kris : out another 1/4 NBR long
[07:51 am] Mitch K: monitoring GHL
[07:59 am] Mitch K: consider short here 67.60 area for COG
[08:03 am] Mitch K: looking for under $67 on COG
[08:09 am] Kris : yes scalpman, stop over 80.08
[08:40 am] Brent : you too rd, take care
[08:51 am] Kris : take smaller positions and try to do more trades but make sure you understand the strategy.
[08:51 am] Kris : I recommend virtual trading a new strategy until you get your confidence with it
[08:58 am] Kris : We’re putting together a webinar series scalpman on all the new strategies.
[09:10 am] Kris : Have you been gone for a while scalpman?
[09:13 am] Kris : out all NBR long
[09:13 am] Kris : looking for COST to make another move down and test the lod.
[09:16 am] Kris : Taking a higher number of trades with smaller position size will improve consistency day to day and slowly build your account. Then you can increase your positions sizes relative to your account size and make more money on the same trades.
[09:17 am] Kris : You might be able to have home run days twice a week
[09:17 am] Kris : The larger your positions and the fewer your trades per day, the greater your P&L volatility and less consistent days.
[09:17 am] Kris : So it’s a trade off
[09:17 am] Kris : but you could have a losing day or two
[09:17 am] Kris : but confidence is huge with trading
[09:18 am] Kris : so it’s my opinion to work on getting consistent gains each day.
[09:18 am] Kris : if you focus on the trades, the money will come naturally.
[09:18 am] Kris : don’t focus on the money, focus on the trades
[09:19 am] Kris : You can use the full 100k if you have that many high quality trades that fit into your strategy or strategies at that time of day.
[09:20 am] Kris : work on building your account and making consistent gains, then when your account is 150k or 200k you can do 15k to 20k positions and make more money per day with the same trades.
[09:20 am] Kris : With you scalpman, I think you might work best with about 10-12k positions and not have more than 6 on at any given time.
[09:20 am] Kris : that should still leave you some bullets if you need them.
[09:21 am] Kris : delayed gratification
[09:22 am] Kris : Also trading isn’t going to be the same every day. Today was probably the worst day I’ve had in a few weeks. A chimpanzee could have picked better trades than me this morning.
[09:23 am] Kris : So you’re gonna have a day when everything doesn’t go your way. It’s part of trading.
[09:23 am] Kris : Have a good weekend Scalpman. Recharge and we’ll see you back on Monday.
[09:43 am] Brent : watching GHL for a bounce, close to support here
[09:43 am] Brent : support 47.50 area as Rusty said
[09:45 am] Kris : out half COST short
[09:45 am] Brent : I don’t look at how much it’s been down today niko. I look for a setup of increasing volume with decreasing price heading into a support area
[10:28 am] Kris : GMO halt pending news
[10:33 am] Kris : AVT short half position
[10:55 am] Kris : long very small position in NOC as a swing trade.
[10:57 am] Kris : WBS upgrade
[10:58 am] Kris : watch GHL if it fails the lows, could be a good short.
[11:01 am] Kris : COST coming down into a possible triple bottom, look for a break below 79.40
[11:08 am] Kris : short second half AVT
[11:08 am] Kris : looking for lower lows AVT
[11:10 am] Kris : GHL new lod[11:15 am] Kris : there she goes
[11:15 am] Kris : look to start covering some of GHL if you got it short on the new low
[11:16 am] Mitch K: increasing volume on GHL, usually bounces
[11:19 am] Kris : Patience uptick. Market holding up a little here.
[11:21 am] Kris : that is fine uptick
[11:28 am] Kris : SPY looking like it wants to test the lod.
[11:30 am] Kris : BX breaking below 200 sma on daily support and previous lows
[11:31 am] Kris : it’s borderline with where we are in the day for trying to take this short. I’ll pass but a small position would have low risk.
[11:32 am] Kris : BUD at resistance, I would like to watch this for a long on Monday over 56.00 if it doesn’t break today.
[11:38 am] Kris : look to cover the rest of GHL if you still have some short
[11:42 am] Kris : ARCC is another possible short. Will save an alert on it for Monday below 15.45
[11:57 am] Kris : Yes Steve, I’ve been over 90% winners about the last 6 weeks.
[11:58 am] Kris : You’ll get there Candelas.
[11:58 am] Brent : 80% is great too
[12:02 pm] Brent : watching IRM for a bounce, but would like to see it drop more
[12:05 pm] Brent : QLIK approaching lod[12:07 pm] Brent : it’s a very useful tool to have custom orders to where your targets and stops are automatically placed when your order is filled. Then you can drag them into place exactly where you want them
[12:13 pm] Brent : IRM hitting some resistance here, consider reducing some if you took it long
[12:16 pm] Brent : next target is 34.52 area on IRM
[12:18 pm] Kris : watch NBR Monday for another long over today’s hod.
[12:21 pm] Kris : that’s good
[12:22 pm] Kris : or PUDA is holding them
[12:22 pm] Kris : I know people still holding PUDA against their will
[12:23 pm] Kris : I know candelas has 1 share
[12:25 pm] Kris : MHK possible short below 55.00 for tomorrow or next monday[12:31 pm] Kris : SPY moving up
[12:31 pm] Kris : heading for hod[12:43 pm] Mitch K: thanks lightning
[12:44 pm] Mitch K: jjammerp, we have been also talking in the Participants chat box, not just the Tsa comments box
[12:47 pm] Brent : you too uptick, good job
[12:49 pm] Mitch K: thanks for HOGS lightning
[12:49 pm] Kris : did I already talk about AMAT for tomorrow?
[12:51 pm] Kris : AMAT is another potential continuation trade to the short side tomorrow.
[01:00 pm] Kris : Great job today everyone! Have a good night and I’ll see you all back here tomorrow to close out the week.
[01:00 pm] Kris : Great Job Today Everyone! Enjoy your weekend and I’ll see you all back here Monday morning.
[01:00 pm] Brent : have a great night everyone, see you in the morning.
[01:01 pm] Brent : Have a great weekend everyone, great job this week, and see you Monday
[01:03 pm] Mitch K: bye ladies
[01:07 pm] Mitch K: later guys see you tomorrow

[05:39 am] lorie : CLX
[05:39 am] lorie : FLIR
[05:43 am] baz6308 : clx earnings?
[05:43 am] baz6308 : nice pop Google
[05:43 am] mikewd2 -: ICAHN to buy CLX
[05:44 am] mikewd2 -: price for CLX is 76.5/share
[05:50 am] baz6308 : HK
[05:53 am] joeytsa : Good morning…nice pop in GOOG for those who got in yesterday…anyone think we will see a big pullback in GOOG later?
[05:54 am] mikewd2 -: BHP to buy HK for 38.75/share
[05:55 am] mikewd2 -: joey, i was hearing last night analyst putting targets upwards of 900/share on google.
[05:56 am] joeytsa : yeah i heard a few things like that…I don’t trust analysts 🙂
[05:58 am] joeytsa : it might stay strong today…but if I see it crack i just might jump on one of the weekly puts
[06:06 am] joeytsa : seeing that $68 gap up reminds me of the late 90’s
[06:13 am] mikewd2 -: Kris, mentioned PUDA yesterday – anyone holding it?
[06:14 am] baz6308 : I think it’s a standard joke
[06:14 am] baz6308 : puda[06:15 am] mikewd2 -: unfortunately, I have some of it – bought at 6
[06:18 am] joeytsa : today’s calendar..11am est Obama speaks, 12pm est euro bank stress test results…might get interesting around then
[06:20 am] leo : Good morning Mitch, Brent, Kris and fellow traders, let’s start a wonderful day.
[06:20 am] scalpman : Energy Sector is up today
[06:21 am] lightning : re-reading Martin Pring’s Technical Analysis Explained. Very good book.
[06:22 am] joeytsa : thanks lightning..might have to get that one…
[06:23 am] joeytsa : at one time, schwab had a bunch of videos with pring talking ta..not sure if they are still there, will check later
[06:28 am] lightning : Good luck everyone. Let’s make some good trades
[06:28 am] mikewd2 -: cramer discussion GOOG future earnings could go to $40/share
[06:47 am] staz : Out NWSA swing @ 14.9 after sell yesterday @ 15.42
[07:00 am] observer : Thx, Mitch, ENDP
[07:03 am] uptick : S CLX 73.86
[07:07 am] joeytsa : sure is Kris..might get wackier later too..Obama, euro bank stress tests
[07:08 am] duckfan : Watching C
[07:13 am] barbaralla : clx
[07:13 am] joeytsa : RIG moved on an upgrade to $80
[07:13 am] johncraig : short CLX still
[07:13 am] lightning : VRX not holding up well
[07:13 am] niko : Yes, CLX at $73.85 short
[07:13 am] skydiver : I’m short CLX
[07:13 am] skydiver : ok sounds good Mitch
[07:13 am] skydiver : yes –
[07:14 am] apple : yes CLX S 73.87
[07:14 am] joeytsa : boener speaking cnbc[07:14 am] mriguy -: Yep. I just covered some CLX at 72.61. Will probably close when I drive to work. Bad things can happen driving to work. I know.
[07:14 am] uptick : CLX looks trendy
[07:15 am] mikewd2 -: is CLX still a short after this bounce?
[07:15 am] scalpman : At 1%
[07:15 am] scalpman : Kris are you stopped on NWSA?
[07:17 am] scalpman : took the profit?
[07:18 am] joeytsa : RIG cracking?
[07:18 am] uptick : Good Idea Mitch, I only started with a 1/2 position on CLX..will do that
[07:21 am] uptick : Been staring at BAX to get in, but think I’ll stick to shorts today
[07:23 am] apple : great advice, K, thx
[07:23 am] uptick : No kidding, I only lose when I fight the tape
[07:24 am] mhaus : cde[07:25 am] rusty : AMR new lows
[07:26 am] duckfan : Watching HANS
[07:27 am] apple : thx, MK
[07:28 am] mhaus : SQQQ
[07:28 am] stevemld : watching PXD for S entry
[07:31 am] uptick : Nice one Kris & Mitch CLX plus 1…out all
[07:35 am] Mitch K: good one uptick,
[07:37 am] mhaus : COF
[07:40 am] scalpman : Kris Are you stopped on BAX?
[07:42 am] asantern : Kris: Any idea about BAX?
[07:42 am] scalpman : I have stop at 60.71? Too low?
[07:44 am] duckfan : Watching GHL
[07:44 am] scalpman : 61.30
[07:45 am] asantern : bax 61.26
[07:45 am] scalpman : I was at 1%
[07:45 am] scalpman : too much perhaps on a $60 stock?
[07:46 am] duckfan : Selling all of HANS
[07:46 am] eyes-inthenow : TIE Alert
[07:48 am] scalpman : ESRX L @ .72 avg looks good, Mitch!
[07:48 am] uptick : Kris, u still in WLL?
[07:49 am] apple : out all CLX 72.88
[07:49 am] eyes-inthenow : TIE alert
[07:49 am] lightning : watching HOGS for a possible long
[07:52 am] rusty : SWC hod[07:53 am] hguru : GHL – take a look possible climb
[07:54 am] hguru : ah O MK scary
[07:54 am] hguru : I did not see your post when I put it up
[07:55 am] eyes-inthenow : Did anyone get TIE
[07:57 am] randall : watching sina[07:57 am] scalpman : Kris, what is your status on COST?
[08:00 am] uptick : S NWSA 15.30
[08:07 am] scalpman : Kris, Are you still in COST S..?
[08:10 am] truck : out ESRX , 51.90 ,plus .24
[08:11 am] scalpman : stopped on COG small loss
[08:11 am] stevemld : cg acting strong
[08:11 am] truck : Thanks Mitch,,,ESRX[08:12 am] stevemld : COG sorryu[08:13 am] scalpman : All out AMP small profit
[08:15 am] asantern : Mitch K:Is COG still Promising?
[08:16 am] scalpman : All out GHL Small profit 10c
[08:18 am] scalpman : Out 3/5 ESRX
[08:19 am] duckfan : ag stocks really taking off
[08:19 am] lightning : LOL, nice wick on FCX.
[08:22 am] scalpman : All out ESRX 18c avg[08:22 am] scalpman : COST moving down
[08:23 am] scalpman : Stopped on BAX
[08:24 am] asantern : Any idea on COG?
[08:24 am] scalpman : Stopped on COST…
[08:25 am] scalpman : sorry not stopped…
[08:26 am] pow : put up sina[08:31 am] mhaus : JVA going strong today
[08:32 am] rusty : GHL radar
[08:33 am] rusty : MLI continued radar for bull-type short – needs more volume
[08:40 am] rd : Need to leave. Thx for clx. Great wkend to all
[08:40 am] scalpman : I had a lot of small profits, but a couple of big stops that ate the profits. I missed a couple cause I ran out of money.
[08:40 am] scalpman : Kris, I am attempting to mirror your trades. I don’t have as big an account so, I am using small positions, $10,000 in place of $20,000. etc.
[08:41 am] scalpman : The Wide stops are good but if hit by a couple of positions, it turns the day red…Can you comment on this technique?
[08:42 am] rusty : if you are running out of money, you are in too many trades or positions too large
[08:42 am] scalpman : Particularly , SINA, REDF and NVLS. I also got stopped on COG.
[08:43 am] rusty : sounds simple but you’re taking a risk if you running up to your capital limits
[08:44 am] scalpman : [email protected]…if you have time. Thanks.
[08:44 am] scalpman : my email is in your system…if better to comment there
[08:47 am] jjammerp : is the market pausing for the euro bank test?
[08:47 am] scalpman : I trying to figure how to minimize the losses…
[08:47 am] scalpman : On the good side, I was in from the beginning on CLX…big profits. So I see the value here.
[08:48 am] rusty : don’t count the ones you are missing imo[08:48 am] scalpman : NBR was good but missed it as I was out of cash.
[08:49 am] mhaus : Keep some wiggle room on your shorts for SINA
[08:49 am] mhaus : scalpman, on SINA you have to be patient as it has a lot of fluctuations in price.
[08:49 am] rusty : pay more attention to the positions you are in
[08:49 am] scalpman : rusty, that’s not the context I am talking about.
[08:50 am] mhaus : I made $1000+ on SINA today
[08:50 am] mhaus : You will not be able to catch all trades
[08:50 am] rusty : sure if you have unlimited capital
[08:50 am] scalpman : There are a wide number trades going on and as a percentage, when you can’t play one, that becomes a good trade, it affects the overall average.. That is my point.
[08:51 am] apple : you have to learn to be choosey at this point
[08:51 am] mhaus : Just focus on a few and execute them per the charts
[08:51 am] rusty : agree apple
[08:51 am] rusty : and then you will miss all the trades
[08:51 am] rusty : if you go to your $ limits one day you gonna lose your $
[08:52 am] rusty : sounds simple but have been there before
[08:52 am] scalpman : Kris…is the technique on these Open-Gap plays, written anywhere. I heard that it might be posted.
[08:53 am] leo : What size is optimum for day trading? I understand it may depend on various factors. But I am asking for good profit and protecting from big lost.
[08:55 am] Brent : it depends on your account size and experience leo[08:55 am] scalpman : Understood…thanks Kris…
[08:56 am] scalpman : Kris…the action of the technique…matches my personality well.
[08:57 am] kirkg : Some good points brought up about money management. Probably not stressed enough.
[08:57 am] pow : ghl i a long?
[08:57 am] scalpman : Will you publish something on this, or perhaps in a DVD…?
[08:58 am] qwert : cog consolidation over 45 mins, looks like it should break hard one way or another
[08:58 am] scalpman : Kris, do you automatically take 50% profit at 1% move.
[08:59 am] apple : sounds great, thx K and TSA
[08:59 am] gecko : Kris that would be great
[08:59 am] scalpman : Tradestation has a order screen which shows all trades and percentages.
[09:00 am] apple : gecko, 12:00 reversal coming up
[09:00 am] leo : For example, minimum account size for day trading is 25,000, so if I take small positions, it will not make good profit. If I take large position and the trade goes opposite direction, it will hurt me. So I would like to know the optimum sizes for scalping and swing trades.
[09:00 am] rusty : 8 failures
[09:00 am] rusty : EU STRESS TEST
[09:00 am] rusty : RESULTS
[09:00 am] scalpman : So you can watch…I wonder though if it better to just put the cover or sell in place?
[09:01 am] derns : ZSL..does anyone have an opinion on a swing trade here?
[09:01 am] scalpman : I had 11…
[09:02 am] scalpman : COG may drop
[09:02 am] vans : AMZN, SORRY
[09:02 am] vans : aMZO AGIANST mONEY ZONE, VWEB, STO PEAKED, AND STILL KEEPS CLIMBING. SHOULD TURN
[09:04 am] rusty : http://stress-test.eba.europa.eu/pdf/EBA_ST_2 011_Summary_Report_v6.pdf [09:03 am] scalpman : Kris, Excellent. Looking forward to that!
[09:04 am] vans : DARN IT, AMZN BROKE THROUGH AGAIN
[09:05 am] 3be : must be good report
[09:05 am] mhaus : FSLR
[09:06 am] vans : NFLX SOON
[09:07 am] maxbor : Vans – turn off the caps – for stocks
[09:13 am] Brent : as far as position size for a 25K account. I wouldn’t go over the $12k size
[09:13 am] Brent : Leo, the key is to get consistent with your trades (and you might be, I’m just talking in general). When you get up to a point where 80% of your trades are winners, then the losses don’t really matter, because if you trade exactly the same setups and be consistent everyday you are going to be ahead.
[09:14 am] Brent : swing trade, I would be less. Like 4-5K
[09:14 am] Brent : that is for daytrades[09:14 am] leo : Thanks Brent.
[09:14 am] scalpman : Still here!
[09:14 am] scalpman : Yes…I see COST!
[09:15 am] Brent : It may not seem like a lot, but when trading is consistent, that account size will grow exponentially very quickly and you can gradually move up your position size
[09:15 am] Brent : make sense?
[09:15 am] leo : It means I cannot take another positions with the remaining money?
[09:16 am] Brent : but starting out, I would recommend no more than 2 positions, until you get comfortable with that
[09:16 am] Brent : no, you can. I would limit each position to 10-12k
[09:16 am] leo : I see. Thx Brent.
[09:16 am] scalpman : Daytrade x4 give you $100 to work with…so you could put on several small positions.
[09:17 am] scalpman : ..on a $25000 account
[09:17 am] scalpman : So you are saying don’t use the full $100K
[09:18 am] leo : Thank you Brent and Kris. I got a new view.
[09:20 am] scalpman : Thanks Kris…that is good advice that I appreciate.
[09:21 am] mikewd2 -: Icahn on cnbc discussing CLX takeover
[09:21 am] scalpman : I’ve been having a rough couple of weeks. Trying to get back on track and some positive runs.
[09:22 am] apple : yes, thanks K and B for the good advice
[09:22 am] scalpman : Bye all…thanks for great advice Kris and Brent
[09:23 am] mikewd2 -: I don’t like those days!
[09:23 am] pow : how do you get the program to mark the blue dotted line of new lows, example GHL
[09:24 am] jjammerp : are we looking catch a bounce on ghl/
[09:25 am] jjammerp : or was ghl already a short?
[09:25 am] randall : watching google; for anyone who wants to consider shorting
[09:26 am] Kris : pow, that is esignal current day high and current day low
[09:26 am] pow : thanks, i just got it so i will look for it
[09:27 am] maxbor : Kris – where is your stop on COST ? S .63 stopped .03
[09:30 am] pow : what topic is that under in esignal….tools?
[09:31 am] vans : Kris, do you typically buy stocks on the one min. and sell using 5 or fifteen min?
[09:33 am] rusty : LNKD hod[09:34 am] rusty : GHL previous low in June 47.59
[09:34 am] vans : rrc should bounce .20
[09:36 am] rusty : GHL earnings next week
[09:38 am] mikewd2 -: cnbc saying most likely there will be competing bids for CLX
[09:41 am] qwert : volume picking up in ghl[09:42 am] rusty : GHL high radar
[09:44 am] niko : GHL
[09:44 am] niko : With the big drop today, what are the changes it will rebound?
[09:45 am] rusty : don’t chase it buy on or below bid… let it come to you
[09:49 am] duckfan : Thanks for GHL guys, good quick trade
[09:50 am] leo : Are you out duckfan? There is no exit signal on my 3 min chart yet.
[09:50 am] mikewd2 -: missed GHL, had bid at 47.6
[09:50 am] observer : Thx, Brent GHL
[09:51 am] duckfan : I’m Leo, got almost 1percent, so I decided to play it safe
[09:52 am] eyes-inthenow : that was a quick 27.00 dollars
[09:52 am] leo : You are right. It is down.
[09:52 am] mikewd2 -: well i own it now
[09:53 am] eyes-inthenow : hey I got Lunch money
[09:54 am] rusty : see the volume stick
[09:54 am] rusty : we just had the panic on GHL
[09:55 am] tennisball : Brent, using esignal . simple steps to place high low on chart? thks[09:57 am] Brent : lol, don’t remember tennisball. One second
[09:58 am] Brent : it’s fine, just found it lightning, thx
[09:58 am] lightning : Brent, I know. Do you not really remember? I can explain it to tennis
[09:58 am] Mitch K: sure go lightning
[09:58 am] tennisball : I forgot myself-been working on this seems all am.
[09:59 am] Brent : right click on chart, then click formulas, then OHLC, then today’s low
[09:59 am] Brent : then do the same steps and choose today’s high
[10:01 am] Brent : did you get it tennisball?
[10:01 am] tennisball : thks, I do the same with only the highlights in top left with no showing of high and low. anyway thks[10:06 am] tennisball : I have the h/l now , found a matching color with background. so much to know (forget)
[10:08 am] pow : Kris, could not find how to check auto new lows or highs please show me on the chart
[10:10 am] Kris : what charting software are you using pow?
[10:10 am] pow : esigal pro
[10:10 am] pow : version 10.65
[10:13 am] Brent : yes
[10:13 am] lightning : yes
[10:13 am] mhaus : yes
[10:14 am] apple : loud and clear
[10:14 am] pow : I found it thanks
[10:15 am] johnny : New low for SODA?
[10:15 am] tennisball : now , unable to change colors when I change colors and hit apply
[10:16 am] mikewd2 -: lower lows on each bounce
[10:16 am] mikewd2 -: NFLX been nice short over last couple hours
[10:17 am] lightning : tennis, you have to click on the small box left of the color chooser
[10:18 am] rusty : GHL bounce
[10:19 am] candelas : sold half ghl 48.01
[10:19 am] candelas : stop b/e[10:19 am] mikewd2 -: need GHL to break thru 48.29
[10:19 am] tennisball : Ah, I got it, thanks Lightning. any color I want now. ha
[10:21 am] candelas : last 1/4 will trail
[10:21 am] candelas : out another 1/4 48.10
[10:21 am] rusty : sold GHL
[10:21 am] rusty : ty for shopping TSA
[10:23 am] candelas : stop last 1/4 ghl 48.1
[10:23 am] pow : 1 point move in GHL….good out is at 38%
[10:24 am] candelas : thx guys for GHL
[10:24 am] pow : one more question how do you get your cross cursor to show price on right axles
[10:26 am] mikewd2 -: out GHL 48.15, nice one thanks
[10:27 am] lightning : Pow, right click the chart. Select “Cursor”, select “Properties”. Then click on the box next the bottom under Axis Cursor Labels”
[10:29 am] rusty : JVA hod[10:34 am] mriguy -: new lod on AEA
[10:41 am] rusty : ZAGG radar hod[10:48 am] rusty : Kris pls resend pm..not sure what happened
[10:50 am] texas : infa lod[10:53 am] mikewd2 -: GHL increasing volume
[11:04 am] rusty : BKX lod[11:09 am] rusty : DJ: Fears Over Greenhill Defections On Display
[11:15 am] Brent : great call Kert[11:16 am] Brent : on GHL
[11:17 am] uptick : Nov if only AVT does the same…S .65
[11:18 am] rusty : nice call kris[11:18 am] vans : THANKS HUGE GOBBS kRIS – GHL
[11:20 am] uptick : I see that…is .75 too tight for AVT?
[11:22 am] uptick : Stopped out on COST because stop was too tight…
[11:24 am] tennisball : ghl short 46.44 covered half 4610
[11:25 am] leo : Is GHL bouncing for LONG?
[11:26 am] tennisball : ghl covered last half at 46.01
[11:27 am] vans : ghl great ride, thanks again, huge profits
[11:29 am] uptick : it just broke thru major support of the day…
[11:31 am] apple : thx, K, for GHL
[11:32 am] rusty : S&P Puts ‘AAA’ Rtgs On US Insurance Groups On Watch Neg[11:32 am] uptick : AVT one penny over LOD
[11:36 am] rusty : JVA moving down pretty fast
[11:40 am] rusty : XCO hod[11:42 am] uptick : AVT new LOD
[11:43 am] kirkg : jva lod[11:46 am] vans : saw rounded bottom ghl and took one more helping, thanks again
[11:49 am] randall : I am thinking java could be a long swing
[11:50 am] stevemld : Kris I’ve been trying to keep up with u early on ur breakout trades and ur success rate seems really high do u know what it is?
[11:50 am] wyldrose : looking fo a long aapl[11:56 am] jjammerp : I think he is just good, and we are in the process of becoming good Steve. I can’t keep up in the am
[11:57 am] joeytsa : way to go Kris !!!
[11:57 am] vans : out ghl[11:58 am] apple : bravo, K!
[11:58 am] candelas : Im only at 80%. I got ways to go
[11:58 am] mbear : Dang Kris…you da man!!
[11:58 am] mikewd2 -: I’m about 80%, but my loses are sometimes way bigger.
[11:59 am] candelas : thx Brent
[11:59 am] candelas : When we first started in room I was 57%
[11:59 am] mikewd2 -: i turn day trades into swings, which i know i shouldn’t
[11:59 am] mikewd2 -: need to place stops on every trade, I’m bad about that
[12:00 pm] candelas : it took a while to learn to have patience and wait for your price
[12:00 pm] leo : Great Kris. I am slow and working with only two screens. I was lagged in exit and trapped in some trades.
[12:00 pm] vans : 80% is fantastic candelas, shows you can wait for the setup, hard to do.
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : its less expensive when you learn from my mistakes haha[12:01 pm] joeytsa : mikewd2…at least you see the issue, many don’t
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: usually my mistakes happen when i go outside the “Kris” trades
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah, I’m trying to learn from my big mistakes
[12:02 pm] candelas : Mitch said it best, when u get good at strategies ur emotions will determine how much you make
[12:04 pm] stevemld : that is really great. i have only been getting 60-70% of what u do but i can tell ur percent winners is high still can only manage about 3 trades at a time
[12:05 pm] joeytsa : another lesson i learned…always know your exit b4 you enter a trade
[12:05 pm] mikewd2 -: that’s what I need to learn a bit better, Joey!
[12:07 pm] lightning : Brent, Lightspeed doesn’t have such a way to have auto stops/targets, does it?
[12:07 pm] qwert : Brent- can you do that with lightspeed[12:10 pm] joeytsa : looks like you can do some kind of custom order at lightspeed[12:10 pm] leo : Brent it sounds advanced to me. How can we know the target?
[12:10 pm] vans : wish I had discipline to let ghl ride, missed a lot of upside.
[12:11 pm] hguru : and when the price takes off quicker then you expected either way it is nice to have the profit or protection be there when you cannot physically catch the movement fast enough
[12:11 pm] joeytsa : not sure if LS has oco orders..i am still new with LS
[12:12 pm] Brent : no Lightning, I don’t think you can
[12:14 pm] Brent : Leo, targets are generally support and resistance areas. For example, moving averages, and previous consolidation areas.
[12:14 pm] niko : TOS has those features to select your targets before you enter your order. I has a very interactive platform
[12:15 pm] Brent : Study all you can about support and resistance. Understanding it goes a long way in being more profitable
[12:17 pm] Brent : that’s right leo[12:17 pm] hguru : Brent have you ever heard of the Darvas Box
[12:17 pm] hguru : I use TOS and the active trader to place orders and move the targets and stops around either click and drag right on the pricing ladder or directly from the screen it is very cool
[12:17 pm] leo : 50 days moving average is 34.52 for IRM isn’t it Brent?
[12:17 pm] vans : I think playing the one min charts makes me react too quickly and lose pot.
[12:18 pm] Brent : yes hguru, I’ve been studying those
[12:18 pm] hguru : Brent have you ever heard of the Darvas Box
[12:19 pm] Brent : jjammerp what broker do you use?
[12:19 pm] hguru : i have been using it for the last month and really makes a difference in seeing the current support and resistance
[12:19 pm] jjammerp : My timing for selling is usually poor, ie, i bail to soon on good trades. Brent/Kris, any suggestions? Seems to be the only thing between me and winning every day.
[12:19 pm] stevemld : seem to be missing posts in TSA box last post 12:05
[12:20 pm] jjammerp : tradestation[12:21 pm] hguru : the Darvas box is a study that is on the studies index on TOS found it by accident just going through all their studies one day. But I agree support and resistance lines could be the most important thing I have figured out since I started trading
[12:22 pm] Brent : it really helped me get the runners. I had the same problem
[12:22 pm] Brent : ok, if commissions are low, I would recommend exiting your positions at 1/2, 1/4, 1/4. What helped me the most is making a rule that I don’t close my last 1/4. I keep moving my stop as the price moves, but my rule is my last 1/4 has to stop out. I can’t close it
[12:23 pm] apple : B, that sounds like a helpful plan
[12:23 pm] Brent : you can exit 3/4 then 1/4 if you prefer
[12:23 pm] niko : hgur, you said the Darvas box is a type of study available in TOS? I am just confused here
[12:24 pm] 3be : hgur..I use TOS charts and Darvas never made sense to me but it does now lol[12:24 pm] Brent : it depends vans. Sometimes it’s moving averages, sometimes it’s the previous candle
[12:24 pm] hguru : yes go to the same place you can get all your studies and look for Darvas Box
[12:24 pm] jjammerp : makes sense. need to give it a try, because I miss too many big moves.
[12:24 pm] joeytsa : great idea Brent on letting that last 1/4 close itself
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: RBCN at 16 month low
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: that was one of our long swing trades a while back
[12:24 pm] vans : When placing your stop – are you using previous bar bottom 1/8 below – on 5 min bar?
[12:25 pm] joeytsa : Darvis wrote maybe 2 books that talk about his Box trading
[12:26 pm] Brent : just remember to move your stop and keep it below the closest support for a long, and above closest resistance for a short on the last 1/4
[12:26 pm] hguru : there are lots of interesting studies out there do not get to confused with all of them just find ones that seem to work for you play around with your platforms
[12:26 pm] skydiver : Thanks Brent — been learning with everyone else. Good stuff
[12:27 pm] candelas : aapl on a run
[12:29 pm] niko : Markets rallying
[12:30 pm] candelas : I use 5
[12:30 pm] leo : Candelas, btw how many screens are you using for the trades?
[12:30 pm] leo : On one computer?
[12:31 pm] candelas : i was referring to monitors
[12:31 pm] candelas : not sure I understand the question
[12:32 pm] leo : I mean you are using 5 monitors with only one computer or 2, 3 computers.
[12:33 pm] candelas : only 2 computers. 1 has 3 monitors the other has 2
[12:34 pm] candelas : I will be getting a new system in 2 weeks
[12:34 pm] joeytsa : i use 3 comps/5 monitors…been thinking about getting a quad setup, maybe 6
[12:35 pm] candelas : well it has been on my wish list for 2 years now
[12:35 pm] leo : Oh, that’s because you have 80% winners, you can afford it.
[12:36 pm] leo : I envy you. I am a naive beginner.
[12:37 pm] apple : if you think you can, you can!
[12:37 pm] apple : no envy, leo, if he can do it, so can you!
[12:37 pm] candelas : you should not. We all started out with baby steps
[12:37 pm] leo : I wish I can. May be in near future.
[12:38 pm] candelas : and most importantly keep it positive
[12:38 pm] candelas : Put in the study and it will come
[12:38 pm] leo : Thx apple and candelas.
[12:39 pm] apple : those two again – what a pair!
[12:39 pm] candelas : always keep the thought positive
[12:39 pm] Kris : yeah, trust me. if candelas can do it, anybody can, even Brent.
[12:39 pm] leo : OK, I am trying to control my fear and greed.
[12:39 pm] leo : While keeping positive.
[12:40 pm] apple : MK is watching!
[12:40 pm] candelas : algorithmic systems kicking in to buy aapl as well
[12:40 pm] candelas : gang up day
[12:40 pm] candelas : I set myself up
[12:40 pm] candelas : LOL
[12:40 pm] hguru : apple 364.90 is the High of the year
[12:40 pm] Kris : lol[12:40 pm] Mitch K: and if Kris wasn’t on point, then I was ready myself
[12:40 pm] Mitch K: I saw that one coming a mile away candles
[12:40 pm] stevemld : lots of blank spaces in TSA box
[12:41 pm] Brent : refresh the room stevemld[12:41 pm] Mitch K: it has something to do with the flash memory or something technical
[12:41 pm] Mitch K: stevemld, click the blue X on upper right and refresh your trading room
[12:41 pm] truck : NBR , new hod[12:41 pm] vans : funny, playing 5 min chart is harder to relax and wait.
[12:43 pm] jjammerp : I keep hearing dings, but nothing
[12:43 pm] lightning : 4% HOGS move in the last 2 minutes
[12:43 pm] Mitch K: stevemld, you get it? says Reload conference room in your browser
[12:43 pm] stevemld : thanks guys
[12:44 pm] leo : HOGS skyrocketing
[12:45 pm] jjammerp : my bad, scroll bar was up a little
[12:45 pm] mikewd2 -: CLX at hod[12:45 pm] mikewd2 -: was
[12:45 pm] truck : out 1/2 plus .12 NBR
[12:46 pm] uptick : Out AVT…small loss, but still a small profit for the day…have a good weekend guys and gals.
[12:48 pm] truck : out 1/4 plus .12 NBR [12:47 pm] babak -: Kris, did you get my email this morning?
[12:49 pm] lightning : you’re welcome. I haven’t traded it…not quite sure how/when.
[12:49 pm] qwert : man aapl is going crazy
[12:52 pm] jjammerp : hogs is like groundhogs day with mbi yesterday
[12:54 pm] candelas : bidu try to breakout as well
[12:54 pm] jjammerp : except that crazy action
[12:54 pm] vans : Those spikes kill my stops
[12:54 pm] vans : what luck, almost went short HOGS
[12:55 pm] candelas : 148.45 and change with vol. will be interesting for next week
[12:55 pm] truck : out last piece,,plus .14 ,NBR,,,thanks Kris
[12:56 pm] apple : thx MK, K, B and everyone. Have a great weekend all.
[12:56 pm] candelas : 148.43 or 148.63
[12:57 pm] leo : Thank you Mitch, Brent, Kris and all traders. Have a nice weekend.
[12:57 pm] vans : no fill on BIDU, great spot Candelas
[12:59 pm] candelas : new 52 high for aaplc[01:00 pm] candelas : have a great weekend Mitch, Brent, even Kris and Traders
[01:00 pm] Kris : lol[01:00 pm] lightning : Thanks TSA and everyone. See you next week.
[01:02 pm] terminator : thnkx everyone good trading
[01:07 pm] hguru : apple closed with a new High of the Year 364.92 up a dollar from when i posted what the hi was
[01:14 pm] rusty : thanks and have a good weekend everyone
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