Chat Highlights From 06/17/2011

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Jun/17 05:58:11MKingThe futures are up sharply this morning on the comments from both French and German leaders confirming they will back a Greek deal. Odds are pretty high this starts the rebound we've been looking for
Jun/17 06:10:12Krisgood morning traders
Jun/17 06:14:11MKingthe RBCN swing trade long idea is a good one, has that increasing down volume and accelerated drop in price. Looking for $20-21 area next 1-2 weeks
Jun/17 06:17:15Brentgood morning everyone
Jun/17 06:19:03MKingwatching PRMW, could run quite a bit more after opening and snooping around for a short
Jun/17 06:20:14MKingPRMW, Primo Water 6M share Secondary priced at $11.26
Jun/17 06:20:49KrisI'm watching MWW, STD, TEF, SAP, BR, UAL, BIDU, LPS, LFC, BBVA
Jun/17 06:25:39Krisdepends on the type of gap UpTick but I'll post it if I trade it. Just want to give a heads up first.
Jun/17 06:25:47KrisI can explain in more detail later.
Jun/17 06:27:15MKingwatching ZRAN
Jun/17 06:28:04Kris2 minutes, time to rock. let's have a great day.
Jun/17 06:31:09KrisPNC short below 58.36
Jun/17 06:31:19KrisWRC long
Jun/17 06:31:32KrisJVA long
Jun/17 06:32:19KrisCTSH long
Jun/17 06:32:32Krisout half JVA long
Jun/17 06:32:45Krisstop second half JVA under 15.67
Jun/17 06:33:03MKingCMTL, watching for top to short
Jun/17 06:33:34KrisLFC long
Jun/17 06:33:42MKingPRMW toppy, interesting short, keep it smaller position
Jun/17 06:33:54KrisCOF long
Jun/17 06:34:19KrisHRBN short
Jun/17 06:35:38KrisNVLS short
Jun/17 06:37:20KrisMCO short half position
Jun/17 06:37:30KrisRIMM long
Jun/17 06:38:34KrisWTW long half position
Jun/17 06:39:44MKingwatching for 2nd helping short on CMTL 25.10 area
Jun/17 06:40:19Krisout half PNC short
Jun/17 06:40:39Krisstop second half PNC over 58.36
Jun/17 06:41:01MKingRBCN good long swing here 17.60 area, start small
Jun/17 06:41:27Krisout half NVLS short
Jun/17 06:41:36Krisstop second half NVLS short over 33.06
Jun/17 06:41:54MKingwatching WFM for short,
Jun/17 06:41:57Krisout half MCO short
Jun/17 06:42:07Krisstop second half MCO over 37.74
Jun/17 06:42:14MKingwatching FIO for long bounce,
Jun/17 06:44:03MKingwatching TWC for possible short
Jun/17 06:44:32Krislook to cover some HRBN short here and move down your stop
Jun/17 06:44:58KrisKSS long
Jun/17 06:45:03MKingwatching NOV for bottom
Jun/17 06:45:24Brentwatching PANL for a bounce
Jun/17 06:45:43Krisout another 1/4 MCO short
Jun/17 06:45:58Krisstop last 1/4 MCO short over 37.63
Jun/17 06:46:19MKingwatching for top in RCL
Jun/17 06:46:24Krisout all PNC short
Jun/17 06:47:59MKingconsider reducing half of long in NOV here 69.60
Jun/17 06:48:01Brentwatching SA for a short
Jun/17 06:48:01Krisyou should be stopped on RIMM hammer. stop below lod.
Jun/17 06:48:22MKingwatching for bottom in CTXS
Jun/17 06:48:30KrisBRCM short
Jun/17 06:48:57MKingwatching for top in OSK
Jun/17 06:49:13MKingwatching SNDK for bottom to buy
Jun/17 06:49:27Brentconsider reducing SA, if you got it, was very quick
Jun/17 06:50:24Brentstill watching PANL possible support around 31.90 area
Jun/17 06:50:52Brentnext target 26.95 area on SA
Jun/17 06:50:55Krislook to cover more HRBN short, coming into support here around 7.00
Jun/17 06:51:46MKinglooking for $70 on 2nd half of NOV long position
Jun/17 06:52:10KrisAVEO short half position
Jun/17 06:52:20Brenttighten stop on SA to protect profits
Jun/17 06:53:10MKingTJX toppy,
Jun/17 06:53:22KrisCREE short
Jun/17 06:54:11Kriswatching for new highs in WTW
Jun/17 06:54:27KrisSPY filling gap, trying to find support
Jun/17 06:54:31MKingRCL stuck here 34.50 area, consider reducing short
Jun/17 06:55:10MKinglooking for 55.75 area on WFM, Whole foods short
Jun/17 06:56:16Krisweak bounce in NVLS, looking for new lows
Jun/17 06:58:24MKingwatching JBL for bottom
Jun/17 06:58:39KrisCTSH consolidating, looking for breakout higher
Jun/17 06:59:24MKingwatching TWC for 2ndhelping short.
Jun/17 06:59:34MKingconsider closing TFM short, try 55.85 area
Jun/17 06:59:46MKingcorrection: I meant WFM, Whole Foods, not TFM
Jun/17 07:00:34MKingSNDK turning up
Jun/17 07:00:42Krisout half WTW long
Jun/17 07:00:55Krisstop second half WTW long under 70.93
Jun/17 07:02:02Kriswatching MCO for a possible long soon
Jun/17 07:02:17KrisFLS long half position
Jun/17 07:02:54Krisspy trying to test hod resistance
Jun/17 07:04:46MKingwatching for top to short in PCAR
Jun/17 07:05:01MKingCTXS bottoming
Jun/17 07:05:21Kriswatching MCO for a long, support around 36.00
Jun/17 07:05:39KrisPNC new lodJun/17 07:07:21MKingMHP bottoming
Jun/17 07:07:35KrisTDC long half position
Jun/17 07:09:46Kriswatching QIHU for a long
Jun/17 07:10:19MKingQIHU going to be a good one
Jun/17 07:12:22KrisQIHU long small position
Jun/17 07:13:25MKingwatching for short in KKD, Krispy Kreme on sugar high
Jun/17 07:14:01KrisMCO long
Jun/17 07:14:15Krisstop MCO under 35.94
Jun/17 07:16:26MKingwatching BBT for bottom, waiting longer than normal
Jun/17 07:17:54MKingconsider selling CTXS, try 74.50+
Jun/17 07:17:58Krislong more QIHU
Jun/17 07:18:13KrisI have half position in QIHU
Jun/17 07:18:13MKingwatching TQNT for bottom
Jun/17 07:18:53MKingBBT turning up
Jun/17 07:18:58KrisI'll wait for a solid base in MCO before re-entry
Jun/17 07:19:14MKingconsider selling CTXS on this surge here
Jun/17 07:19:26MKingalso watch for short in CTXS on top of this bounce
Jun/17 07:21:16KrisI'll stop QIHU below 17.93 diadoraJun/17 07:23:25Kristhat would be ok if you were starting small and building back towards to lod lowering your risk.
Jun/17 07:23:55KrisSPY new lodJun/17 07:24:10Krisout half KSS long
Jun/17 07:24:35Krisstop second half KSS long under 50.65
Jun/17 07:25:18Krisout half BRCM short
Jun/17 07:25:39Krisstop second half BRCM short over 31.64
Jun/17 07:26:16Krisout half QIHU long, losing patience with this
Jun/17 07:26:31Krisit will probably slingshot now, lolJun/17 07:26:51Krisstop second half QIHU under 17.98
Jun/17 07:27:03MKingwatching RBCN for long bounce
Jun/17 07:27:06Krisout another 1/4 BRCM short
Jun/17 07:27:15MKingwatching CF for long
Jun/17 07:27:26Krisstop last 1/4 BRCM short over 31.46
Jun/17 07:27:40MKingif anyone shorted CTXS, consider covering here 74.07 area
Jun/17 07:28:30Krisout all QIHU long
Jun/17 07:28:55MKingwatching POT
Jun/17 07:29:08MKingwatching NBR
Jun/17 07:29:21MKinglow of day on SP-500 last minute or so
Jun/17 07:32:35MKingwatching for bottom in AGU
Jun/17 07:33:21Krisout another 1/4 KSS long
Jun/17 07:34:21MKingwatching for bottom in KRO
Jun/17 07:36:52MKingconsider selling CF here 138.50 area
Jun/17 07:38:34Krisout half FLS long
Jun/17 07:38:54MKingwatching CAm for a bottom
Jun/17 07:38:57Krisstop second half FLS long under 105.77
Jun/17 07:39:36KrisGLNG long
Jun/17 07:41:12MKingstocks rebounding
Jun/17 07:41:14Krisout half LFC long
Jun/17 07:41:25Krisstop second half LFC under 47.97
Jun/17 07:41:31MKingmissed the WDC bottom but monitoring for possible short on top of this bounce
Jun/17 07:43:47Krisout half GLNG long
Jun/17 07:44:03MKinglost patience with KKD short, consider closing here 9.33
Jun/17 07:44:28Krisout another 1/4 GLNG long
Jun/17 07:44:29MKingwatching for short in SNI
Jun/17 07:44:39Krisstop last 1/4 GLNG long under 31.47
Jun/17 07:45:14Krisout half CREE short
Jun/17 07:45:33Krisstop second half CREE over 34.84
Jun/17 07:46:31Krisout another 1/4 LFC long
Jun/17 07:46:57Krisstop last 1/4 LFC long under 48.13
Jun/17 07:55:25Kristhanks rusty
Jun/17 07:55:57MKingcan we cover that short now Rusty? lolJun/17 07:56:09Krishe's a free man
Jun/17 07:56:25MKingwatching HOGS, Zhongpin. this is not Harley Davidson
Jun/17 07:56:49MKinglook what you started Rusty
Jun/17 07:58:43MKingif anyone went long NBR, consider selling
Jun/17 07:58:55MKingthe RBCN long scalp peaking
Jun/17 08:03:08MKingKMP looks bouncy
Jun/17 08:08:58MKingI probably shouldn't have mentioned HOGS as a long idea because these Chinese stocks are going down a lot more than most stocks. And not a lot of buying in them because of the air is being let out of the balloon in the Chinese stocks
Jun/17 08:14:40MKinggood eye Rusty, thanks for idea. Bullshorts are more difficult to find
Jun/17 08:15:16MKingnot sure if i posted GDP but consider selling if long; also watch for short on top of this bounce
Jun/17 08:15:34MKingstill watching SNI but probably too strong for short
Jun/17 08:35:40MKingif anyone shorted SNI, consider covering here 47.15 area
Jun/17 08:44:35MKingif anyone is long HOGS, consider selling most of long position here 10.80 area
Jun/17 08:48:27MKinggood eye on KMP guys
Jun/17 08:50:09MKingRITT has been difficult to find shares Zen
Jun/17 08:50:33MKingSNI probably gives a 2nd helping short soon
Jun/17 10:15:31Brenthave a good weekend Sandy
Jun/17 10:17:03Brentwatching ADTN for a bounce
Jun/17 10:17:33MKingthis market just cant seem to sustain any rally yet but today is quadruple witching expiration, we get 4 of those a year, 1 per quarter
Jun/17 10:23:37Brentyes 1/2 position DernsJun/17 10:24:45Brentlooking to reduce at 37 area
Jun/17 10:24:50Brenton ADTN
Jun/17 10:24:53MKingdiadora, triple witching or its quadruple today, usually has high volatility, biased toward the bearish side
Jun/17 10:25:43Brentjust saw it accelerating on the 3 min chart DernsJun/17 10:28:58MKinggot two funny comments in news today: 1) Greece Prime minister makes the Defense Minister the new FInance Minister. and 2) Strauss Kahn tried to use the "diplomatic immunity" defense but IMF said only is effective when he is acting in his "official capacity"
Jun/17 10:29:16Brentreducing 1/2 here on ADTN
Jun/17 10:29:34MKingI'm not making any of this up, lolJun/17 10:29:42Brentwill take another 1/4 off at 36.98
Jun/17 10:34:00Brentout 1/4 more ADTN
Jun/17 10:34:13Brentwill stop rest under 36.75
Jun/17 10:35:00BrentI use both Hammer
Jun/17 10:35:15Brentgood work guys
Jun/17 10:35:59Brentawesome RockstarJun/17 10:40:50Brentwill stop remainder under 36.85 now
Jun/17 10:40:56Brenton ADTN
Jun/17 10:41:11Brentgood job Truck
Jun/17 10:42:35Brentthx Randall
Jun/17 11:07:50Brentout last piece ADTN
Jun/17 11:14:50Krisyes I'm here
Jun/17 11:16:11KrisI'm working on the trading room platform
Jun/17 11:27:52Brenthave a great weekend qwertJun/17 12:08:37Krishave a good one jjammerp. see you Monday.
Jun/17 12:09:24MKingshould have a little short in CF
Jun/17 12:09:26Brenthave a great weekend Jammer
Jun/17 12:17:33MKingnew low of day on SP-500
Jun/17 12:25:54Kristurning losing scalps into swing trades is a very bad habit to get into.
Jun/17 12:26:11Krisit's a sure fire way to implode your account
Jun/17 12:26:50KrisI recommend swing trade positions are approximately 1/4 the size of a day trade position
Jun/17 12:27:08Krisso if you do decide to swing it, I would at least reduce your size
Jun/17 12:28:45KrisI've seen much worse Mandy
Jun/17 12:29:00BrentKeep your chin up Mandy
Jun/17 12:29:03KrisI think you'll always remember to have a stop under support levels from now on.
Jun/17 12:29:12Krisit's an important lesson to learn
Jun/17 12:29:37KrisWe have a user who changed his name from EYES-ON-MACD to EYES-USE-A-STOP
Jun/17 12:30:40Brentwhat platform do you use Mandy?
Jun/17 12:31:42Krisyou have to accept that you're going to be wrong about 25% of the time
Jun/17 12:32:00Krisyou have to appreciate being stopped out and not look at it as a negative thing
Jun/17 12:33:17Kristhat was big for me to overcome. refusing to be wrong with a trade.
Jun/17 12:34:26Krisfor me it depends on every trade but normally it's not over 1%. It also depends on the strategy.
Jun/17 12:34:52Krisif you can set an auto 1% stop on your orders it wouldn't hurt anyone.
Jun/17 12:34:59Kristhen you can adjust it as needed once you're in.
Jun/17 12:35:09Krisand don't take your stop off or move it.
Jun/17 12:35:30Krisyour stop stops you, you don't stop it.
Jun/17 12:35:47Krisnot that I know of Mandy but you can create a closeout full stop button for long and shorts
Jun/17 12:36:02Krisso once you're in you hit the stop button and then adjust price and hit enter
Jun/17 12:36:07Krisand your stop is in
Jun/17 12:37:38Krisyou don't need to waste all that space gecko. setup some hot buttons.
Jun/17 12:41:06Brentwhat's your price babak?
Jun/17 12:43:38Kriswatch SINA Monday for a break below 79.50
Jun/17 12:44:25Brentas long as it's a small position babak, I think its fine, looking at the chart.
Jun/17 12:44:26Krisvery true candelas. you want to master your strategy to where your trades become like reflexes
Jun/17 12:44:47KrisNot sure yet gecko. I'll know more by Monday.
Jun/17 12:45:16Brentwill hit resistance right at your entry price babak watch it there
Jun/17 12:47:28KrisI recommend virtual trading for at least a couple weeks Mandy
Jun/17 12:47:49Krisget your feet under you without losing your bankroll
Jun/17 12:47:58BrentI can't tell you if that's small or not babak. Don't know what your usual position size is. Personally I don't hold things over the weekend unless its 1/4 or less than my avg position size
Jun/17 12:47:58Krishave a good weekend INTHENOW, see you Monday
Jun/17 12:48:36KrisLS has a demo account you can use but they put a 2 week limit on it.
Jun/17 12:48:48Krisand it doesn't track your results so you'll have to log and study your trades manually.
Jun/17 12:49:03Krisno it's not mikewd2
Jun/17 12:49:26Kristhe only thing you can't work on is dealing with the emotional side of trading
Jun/17 12:49:58Krisagreed
Jun/17 12:50:41BrentMandy, do you use light speed charts or esignal?
Jun/17 12:51:55Brentright, just checking.. For another alternative to be able to virtual trade
Jun/17 12:53:17Krisemail me mandy123, kris@tradestocksamerica.com
Jun/17 12:53:28KrisEnjoy your weekend Junior
Jun/17 12:53:31Krissee you Monday
Jun/17 12:55:28MKinglater sky
Jun/17 12:55:45MKinglater guys
Jun/17 12:55:51MKinghave a great weekend
Jun/17 12:56:35Brenthave a great weekend everyone, see you Monday
Jun/17 12:56:37KrisSir Kris, lolJun/17 12:56:50KrisLater Traders
Jun/17 13:00:38Krisanother solid week in the books. awesome job everyone. see you all Monday morning.
Jun/17 13:00:51Krislet me know if you have any questions forgetmenot
06:14:48 candelas RBCN is classic
06:15:47 gecko sina up to 86
06:22:36 Reacher Can anyone tell me meaning of -secondary priced- ???
06:24:36 UpTick Kris, when you say you're watching these...if they're gapping up are you looking to go long, or catch them at the top for a short?
06:25:56 Lightning Reacher...check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondarymarketo ffering. The -secondary price - is the price that it will be offered at.
06:28:35 rockstar Reacher Secondary priced means that the company is offering shares at a particular price ie PRMW @11.26 to raise money
06:29:05 Reacher Thanks, rockstar06:32:45 gecko jva nice thanks
06:35:42 Lightning S TSM 12.91
06:36:19 observer RBCN L 17.77
06:37:35 observer 2nd helping 17.63 RBCN
06:40:57 mikewd2 rbcn l 17.71
06:44:17 Arkadiy Stop on Rimm?
06:44:45 qwert watching FRO
06:45:36 randall sina selling off big
06:45:56 mbear Mitch - do you still like RITT as bullshort? Higher high than yesterday, but hasnt broken the high from 2 days ago
06:50:07 gecko stopped out rbcn06:52:24 mbear SINA
06:52:48 observer Stopped out partial RBCN
06:57:09 observer bt more RBCN 17.17
07:06:18 frank1 BIDU nice green bar on 5
07:06:37 gecko rbcn s2 16.50
07:10:39 gecko tna new high
07:14:57 observer stopped out RBCN
07:18:30 diadora kris stop on QIHU?
07:19:50 mikewd2 thoughts on rbcn?
07:22:53 diadora thanks I was below the low of the day but that would have been a big loss, in at 18.34
07:24:18 diadora right, and I did start small was going to add if it dropped below 18
07:24:19 rusty SMH below 200d ma
07:26:50 krock SINA dropping again
07:27:03 diadora Then i will wait for a minute or two to get out QIHU
07:28:20 stevemld market green but weak
07:28:39 mbear FCX
07:30:22 mikewd2 rbcn l 16.13
07:30:31 truck remember,,,option expiration today
07:31:31 gecko rbcn long at 1029
07:32:01 gecko out now for .20
07:32:30 gecko prob out early
07:32:31 mbear MOS
07:33:56 mikewd2 dang l 11.22
07:34:02 candelas nice call cf07:35:20 krock SLGN little late
07:42:30 Reacher Slugfest going on in KKD and TQNT
07:45:52 jjammerp I bought that gecko
07:46:27 jjammerp I closed at 16.42
07:47:01 Reacher Kris, good call on GLNG, but it moved too quickly to jump aboard.
07:50:20 mike aapl07:50:57 mike l RBCN 16.46
07:55:14 rusty US Prosecutors Officially Drop Charges against Osama Bin Laden
07:56:01 rusty lol07:56:34 observer He already BAILED
07:58:36 candelas kmp alert
07:58:39 duckfan KMP alert
08:04:30 EJK Kris did you stop out of COF and CTSH?
08:06:30 Reacher Mich, is HOGS trying another head fake?
08:08:16 candelas slow motion kmp08:08:48 UpTick S BIDU 117.13
08:09:38 jjammerp Reacher, if it Chinese, stay short, or have a quick finger.
08:10:19 Reacher Jammer, do they make fingers that quick?
08:10:34 diadora MITCH, what does that mean for DANG? i watched my profits disappear on it this morning thinking it was a swing and i need to be patient
08:10:37 skydiver Molycorp shares defended at Piper Jaffray :theflyonthewall.com
08:10:45 rusty ONTY early radar - strong daily chart - worth watching to see if bull short might develop
08:11:50 jjammerp I like to think of Val Kilmer, I'm your huckleberry, on bounces like that. Tough though, I have
08:15:33 skydiver hewall.com: Correction: Moodys not Molycorp defended at Piper Jaffray08:22:54 UpTick Out Bidu flat...Kris, thanks for the idea yesterday...caught BIDU short in the PM...Tried to do same today, but it didn't cooperate.
08:24:25 Reacher CLNE looking for a top?
08:25:26 rusty MCO oversold...possible SEC action coming...not playing but watching for panic and or capitualtion selling if news hits
08:28:15 toptrade sni too fast
08:28:51 AKMAN Bounce in DEER?
08:31:03 rusty DEER alert - if playing just remember its Chinese possible fraud
08:31:31 rusty don't overstay your welcome
08:44:03 krock jst alert but also Chinese
08:47:36 toptrade pcar08:48:52 randall BPZ toppy low price stock
08:49:16 ZenTrader did any short RITT for a swing this AM?
08:50:00 ron RITT @ 10.96 here..virtual..haha08:50:31 rusty SNI bouncing
08:50:36 ron Mitch same fate for RITT as ORS?
08:50:58 ZenTrader yeah, was wondering, I was unable to short - tried at 10.80
08:51:33 ZenTrader GREAT idea though, Mitch
08:52:05 mhaus Mitch, do you still think RBCN is a good long?
08:52:12 randall hi Zen! it has been a while? How have you been?
08:52:55 ZenTrader Hi Randall, I've been great! Starting to enjoy the warm weather here in CT. Just got back from a fishing trip in FL - Gulf coast
08:53:26 ZenTrader how are you?
08:54:48 stevemld SINA moving up nicely
08:55:01 randall good stuff Zen! Glad you are well. I have been struggling with major personal problems on the home front.
08:55:47 randall are you long sina Steve? I missed that last run-up
08:55:54 ZenTrader sorry to hear that Randall. Hope everything works out for you....
08:56:10 rusty RYUN acting like a bullshort, albeit manipulated
08:57:06 randall thanks my friend (Zen).
08:58:45 gecko sina is a tough trade
08:59:56 stevemld I think u have to watch it all the time to get a feel Gecko
09:00:11 skydiver tsla alert
09:00:24 randall if dang closes near 12, it makes that swing trade look nice (doji)
09:00:29 junior TSLA alert
09:02:51 Reacher Got to go, thanks, good luck, enjoy the weekend.
09:03:11 skydiver Tesla Roadsters are almost sold out, San Francisco Chronicle reports
09:03:22 toptrade short hoc 63.95
09:03:54 Lorie MK, still watching RIMM for a bounce?
09:05:18 gecko i looked at the tesla car at the Detroit auto show
09:11:58 junior LNN
09:12:21 junior pretty thin LNN
09:17:20 toptrade cover hoc 63.50
09:18:34 baz6308 Candelas ,how did you spot kmp,,and thanks nice trade
09:26:46 ZenTrader starting small SHORT SNI 47.52, tight stop
09:28:22 gecko jjammer: time is not everything but it is a tool from my perspective
09:28:49 jjammerp agreed,
09:31:59 gecko rbcn approaching 16 again
09:32:12 jjammerp I got clobbered on RBCN early, didn't want anymore, but I took the 10:30 because it was 10:30 and got back all my losses and got even
09:38:30 candelas out all rbcn at 15.95
09:38:46 candelas thx for heads up got 1 percent
09:47:10 ZenTrader out 1/4 SNI 47.26
09:52:15 truck TNA,,,,,,lod09:55:37 ZenTrader out 1/2 SNI 47.12
09:58:32 ZenTrader was anyone able to find shares of RITT to short on Light speed earlier?
09:58:35 INTHENOW Mking what charts do you use
10:04:09 truck Zen ,,, are you still short SNI ?
10:07:25 ZenTrader yes, half position
10:08:13 ZenTrader will stop remaining at entry
10:12:51 stevemld CF still downward pressure
10:14:20 rockstar FWIW.. watch for pinning action for the rest of the day...
10:14:32 randall cf at a pivot
10:15:08 sandy calling it a day - happy hunting, - going to bed
10:15:51 gecko mhp possible double bottom
10:16:01 skydiver mhp10:16:21 junior rockstar, what is pinning action?
10:18:02 Lightning S RIG 61.45
10:18:32 truck new lod,,,,TNA
10:18:51 Pete555 Junior, pinning action is when prices tend to pin themselves to the closest strike price on options expiration day
10:18:56 diadora Mitch triple witching, is it usually bearish or bullish for the market?
10:19:44 randall indeed so. it is under the 5 s.ma from 138 down to under 136
10:20:14 junior Ok, thanks Pete555
10:21:00 randall how many stop sells hit on cf under that pivot? I would say quite a few
10:22:33 truck What did they do about the Greek debt ??10:22:43 rockstar pinning action is where the option guys control the price of stocks and pin them to certain numbers. for example APPL 320, AMZN 185, CMG 270... If these stocks end at or close to these numbers by the end of the day both the calls and the puts around these numbers expire essentially worthless. Make sense?
10:23:32 randall yes rockstar10:24:17 baz6308 Germany and France said they would come up with the cash, but the rally did not hold as Mitch said.
10:25:08 Derns Brent...I tend to like your calls...I am simply following/studying today and see that you called that spike 2-3 minutes before it happened...how did you know?
10:25:15 diadora Thanks, Mitch
10:27:01 Derns I need to learn that trick...thx. Randall..I see that now...thx.
10:27:15 randall volume and price candle dems10:27:48 Lightning wow, RBCN has been a steady trending dog all day.
10:27:59 UpTick Have a good weekend all...got to go...
10:28:14 Arkadiy watching CR
10:30:05 Lightning seems like Strauss-Kahn has a point. The IMF is always trying to &$ someone.
10:31:21 diadora good one lightning, you should give up trading and write jokes for Leno, he needs all the help he can get
10:31:26 Lightning ...always trying to take advantage of someone.
10:31:53 junior out half 36.88 ADNT
10:33:39 hammer brent did you buy adtn on 3 min chart?
10:34:13 randall great work Brent
10:34:33 candelas thx Brent
10:34:41 junior Thanks Brent ADNT...good one
10:35:00 qwert ADNT awesome
10:35:02 skydiver yes-- Thanks Brent
10:35:10 gecko adtn nice call
10:35:13 Derns Very nice trade Brent...nice study during a slow time...keep them coming!
10:35:23 truck out quarter 37.04 ADTN
10:35:44 rockstar Nice trade Brent! Scaled out .....I have been better at doing that lately.. With yours and Kris help
10:35:57 truck good one Brent,,,,,ADTN
10:36:07 qwert Candelas- a special thank you to you just scaled into ADTN
10:36:43 candelas nice Qwert10:39:49 gecko rbcn 15.51 lod may hold
10:40:52 truck out,,37.00 ,last piece,,, ADTN ,,,thanks Brent
10:41:34 randall that was one quite nice trade Brent
10:42:56 randall yw; hoping your skill set will rub off more!
10:43:04 junior Yes indeed, Brent you have a great eye
10:44:38 Derns WTW
10:45:07 qwert BBBY
10:49:45 junior watching VECO
11:03:18 Elias PANL
11:05:35 gecko adtn still strong nice call Brent
11:06:00 gecko looks like it wants to go to vwap11:07:01 randall anyone go long HRBN late yesterday or today
11:07:42 gecko wish I did
11:10:26 RD brent, adtn lking like a good short?
11:11:46 candelas thx for panl11:12:43 mandy123 REGN fda approved. stock halted. resumes 2:20 EST
11:14:40 gecko rd if u want to short adtn put a limit order on some resistance line
11:16:08 forgetmenot any thoughts on fcx?
11:17:00 mandy123 REGN
11:17:41 Elias PANL 30.45 OUT 31.45
11:18:15 candelas thx Elias for panl11:19:55 gecko rd if u going to short adtn around here would not be unreasonable
11:23:59 qwert wow anyone trading regn11:24:48 candelas no was managing panl position
11:25:20 qwert im just watching regn11:25:41 jivetalk short or long?
11:27:14 Derns REGN...I'm a bit confused...I really thot it would have taken off long.
11:27:32 qwert Gotta go- goodbye everyone thanks for an awesome week, see ya Monday morning
11:28:49 Pete555 SPY climbing for the last 1/2 hour
11:32:46 mandy123 REGN bottoming?
11:33:31 mandy123 I'm long 500sh 58.67.. Brent, Kris, MKing, any ideas?
11:33:45 mandy123 REGN
11:36:38 gecko do u have a stop Mandy
11:36:55 gecko if not put one in just below the low
11:37:35 duckfan Have to run, have a good weekend everyone. By the way, BJ starting to look interesting for a long
11:38:27 spider Mitch, Brent, is now a good time to go into RBCN for a swing trade??? Starting to move north.
11:39:05 mandy123 I did.. but took it off.. too much to lose.. but yet a lot more to lose without a stop.. i understand.. I thought that the stock would go up since it received fda approval
11:39:14 mandy123 doesn't make sense, does it?
11:40:17 gecko understood Mandy. need to use stops. I would put one in now at just below the low and hope u have a reversal
11:40:29 baz6308 no Mandy but like Mitch said on Thursday the market is not very logical ,,,,,,,,,,but it looks as if it may bounce here
11:40:41 mandy123 i hope gecko. thanks. adding stop at low
11:41:00 gecko put it just below by a few cents
11:41:12 Derns Mandy...I understand...I took a small position and will likely ride it out. This is clearly a sell on the news. I agree with Geckos advice...I still think it will bounce up to get us even.
11:43:07 mandy123 So some drug that receives FDA approval drives the shares down initially?
11:43:30 gecko could be buy the rumor sell the news
11:44:08 randall REGN: Classic buy on rumor sell on news; stock went from 25 to 60 since DEC. This selloff could just be brief. Upgrades could take it higher.
11:44:13 gecko have not participated in an fda drug halt trade ever so don't know what to think
11:44:37 baz6308 its weekend time thanks to all ,,,,,,,,see you Monday
11:44:54 junior GPRO
11:45:20 candelas markets are illogical and very inconsistent. That is why it is up to us to create the consistency, ie. always using stops,planning ur trades,etc.
11:46:52 candelas so we can create consistency by always being patient for setup, acting on our signs;, and being disciplined
11:48:04 mandy123 thanks candelas.. I just didn't have enough time to put the stop in place since the stock just started draining downwards
11:48:30 stevemld wow what a screwy day
11:48:32 gecko another thought Mandy is to quickly reverse
11:48:55 gecko not recommending it now but keep it in mind
11:49:14 candelas we are all here to help. As we were once in same position
11:49:16 Derns Mandy...be patient...we may see a reversal on REGN...
11:51:35 mike long rbcn 15.70
11:51:51 mandy123 thanks for your support everyone. my profits were initially -$600, then went 200 then again went $-400, and not its -$1900.. just learned something new from you guys.
11:52:39 candelas is that a scalp or swing Mike?
11:53:56 mike Im Considering scalp?
11:54:49 candelas I meant to get a position on for swing but only scalped it today
11:55:31 mike I might swing it yet
11:56:25 candelas did u bank any profits yet on it?
11:56:55 mike yes
11:57:53 mikewd2 my rbcn turned to a swing, didn't do stop and got killed
11:58:10 candelas stealing a quote from Sir Kris. you guys rock
11:58:11 jjammerp got a last hour trade. I got no good ideas at present, but scanning
11:59:25 candelas been scanning as well, nada so far
12:00:20 jakeg CF
12:00:54 junior possible HOC bounce?
12:01:00 candelas that put in a nice bottom, missed it cf12:07:59 mike I think I will swing the last 1/2 RBCN ?12:08:16 jjammerp Later gang, see you Monday.
12:09:57 gecko rbcn long still going
12:15:42 gecko Mandy did u book ur profits
12:19:37 Elias FSL
12:21:18 mandy123 No, put my stop at 54.98.. I'm lucky that it just hit 55 as a new low
12:22:20 mike Mitch do you have any thoughts on rbcn for swing long @15.70
12:23:19 mandy123 I'm thinking about removing my stop and swinging it since its Friday and Monday might open better once the news has spread to the public
12:23:37 junior LSTZA...low volume
12:23:38 candelas watching ltza for more vol12:24:05 gecko i think u r going the wrong way Mandy
12:25:20 mandy123 gecko, do u think that I should keep my stop at 54.98 or closeout right now?
12:26:16 mikewd2 wasn't rbcn suppose to be swing?
12:26:27 mandy123 thanks Kris
12:26:28 ron so true Kris
12:26:37 mikewd2 recommendation was to buy at 18
12:26:43 gecko I have nothing reading as a long now
12:27:12 mikewd2 wish i knew that earlier - lol12:27:29 mandy123 I'm out of REGN long with a $3000 loss.. biggest lesson of my life
12:27:36 gecko good luck Mandy
12:27:55 Derns Kris...can you make that comment every day around 12:15? Somehow, I keep on forgetting that wisdom.
12:28:02 ron changing the premise of the trade is a kind of denial
12:28:08 gecko ouch I'm so sorry
12:28:12 mikewd2 if it makes u feel better, I'm down greater on rbcn12:28:25 forgetmenot Mandy..I usually consider that i have to pay some tuition for learning
12:28:47 ron SNOFF spanked me the same way...Mandy
12:29:23 mikewd2 I blew that on no stop on rbnc12:29:53 gecko he went blind
12:29:58 mandy123 true, forgetmenot.. Brent, Kris-- i just realized the power of those stops.. they're hard to keep up with when u buy and the next micro send it flashes downwards
12:30:01 mikewd2 dang l 11.34
12:30:43 toptrade it pays to know the behavior of stocks you trade
12:30:57 mandy123 light speed.. my account will be on margin call Monday
12:31:07 randall What happens is that the stop isn't set, then we freeze like deer in the headlights, hope, pray and then finally realize maximum pain and sell out. This comes from experience and kills the psyche.
12:31:31 mikewd2 randall " that's exactly how I feel
12:31:43 mikewd2 had great day other than rbcn12:31:47 randall been there brother!
12:31:58 mandy123 so I might miss u guys.. with a lot of knowledge to take away from here
12:32:14 candelas u take the Lstza trade Junior
12:32:24 gecko babe ruth struck out more than anyone
12:33:40 junior no candelas, was too slow on the trigger and did not want to chase. did you?
12:33:53 INTHENOW how big of stops to put that is the question
12:34:04 randall The ego can kill us! I have struggled with that too Kris!
12:34:15 candelas yeah. I pulled .30 out
12:35:11 mikewd2 good idea Kris
12:35:12 forgetmenot I think on regn..you have to look at where the stock would be trading at without that news
12:35:15 junior way to go!!! one of the many things need to work on is being decisive and going for it.
12:35:18 mandy123 light speed can place auto stops?
12:35:30 randall that is another way to give ourselves a wammy!
12:35:36 INTHENOW how do you set that on light speed
12:35:42 candelas great discipline not to chase Junior
12:37:31 diadora REGN, not that it makes much difference now, but I read the news on REGN as board recommending for approval. Is that the same as approval in your book?
12:38:18 junior thx Candelas, miss a lot of good trades not being decisive. Missed PANL today also, which was a great trade
12:39:48 babak Kris, Brent, I have some shares in COF, what it is your take for keeping it over night? they acquired ING, announced yesterday after the close.
12:41:22 gecko fsl still diving
12:41:53 INTHENOW REGN new low
12:41:58 babak 49.71
12:41:58 mikewd2 i retired from fsl, be careful with that stock
12:42:21 mikewd2 especially on any long
12:42:49 krock SINA at LOD
12:43:36 junior nice bounce HOC
12:43:44 candelas yeah Junior whenever I start thinking about a trade I do not take it. But when I see the setup based on action,etc I take it without hesitation. I figure thinking is for study time
12:43:49 babak Brent, 49.71
12:44:07 gecko Kris is the new platform going to be up next week?
12:45:22 gecko Kris: u master your trades when the information is no longer processed by cortex but instead by your motor basal ganglia area
12:45:39 junior Good advice Candelas, need to trust the set up....and thinking always gets me in trouble
12:45:49 babak Brent, I have 1000 shares
12:46:14 Derns Someone was talking about pinning this morning...sure looks that way on a few long term holds I have...hitting round numbers.
12:46:34 mandy123 im out. thanks everyone for your support
12:46:53 gecko by everyone. thanks for ur help.
12:46:58 mandy123 I might be back once I get my account funded again
12:48:10 babak Brent, Thanks for the input.
12:48:10 mikewd2 it's hard to learn with play money
12:48:15 mandy123 that's what I was thinking Kris.. I'm just gonna start in a virtual account
12:48:28 randall Mandy: Did you buy on margin today with RGEN?
12:49:17 mandy123 randall, yes, I bought on margin, so I'll get a margin call since my account will be under 25k
12:49:26 mikewd2 your right Kris
12:49:38 mikewd2 that's what I was referring too
12:50:07 randall what I have found with virtual trading is the art of getting into a trade. Sometimes in live trading, I exit way too early.
12:50:28 randall that is where the emotions of not losing money kicks in
12:51:08 mandy123 light speed charts
12:51:18 mandy123 esignal would be extra $$
12:52:00 randall sorry Mandy. I made a practice only to trade 100-share max until I started getting my winning percentage up and handled the trades with more discipline. That is what helped me.
12:53:13 junior Thanks Kris & Brent, Mitch if you are there, also everyone in the room. Have a great weekend. See ya Monday
12:53:45 mandy123 I like randalls idea too.. I've been trading large orders.. it makes sense to start off lower
12:54:15 randall This is the only day of the week where I had any assemblance of focus. Thanks for your help Brent and Kris!
12:54:25 skydiver Thanks Kris, Brent, Mitch, and traders. I have learned a lot today. Slowly getting better each day.
12:54:26 observer C u Monday junior
12:54:33 diadora i am still doing one or two hundred shares and I've been in the room over seven months. Makes it hard to scale in or out, but keeps the emotions in check and the phone from ringing for a margin call.
12:55:19 randall you are right diadora! I am in a similar place!
12:55:20 babak Thanks Brent, Kris, Mitch. see you guys on Monday.
12:56:07 Lightning Thanks TSA and everyone. Have a great weekend. See you Monday.
12:56:09 candelas have a great weekend MK, Sir Kris, Brent and traders
12:57:27 observer A good weekend to all, Mitch, Brent,Kris, traders.
12:57:30 randall you must not know him yet. Michigan has warmer weather than San Diego today K! No PB or Coronado though!
12:58:02 diadora TNA long over the weekend, hope I can sleep tonight. See you all on Monday.
12:59:20 Lightning Me too diadora. Took TNA long yesterday. Still up a little bit. Big up to come, hopefuly13:00:16 diadora I have been in and out of some of it all day. Mostly bringing down my avg without taking a loss. TNA
13:00:30 forgetmenot thanks Kris for the email..I sure will study it
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