Chat Highlights From 06/06/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:05 am] Ed : good morning
[06:21 am] Mitch K: my first impression this morning is going to be giving us good initial shorts as well as good long bounces too. The futures are up on some news that G7 will help support Europe and the ECB is holding rates steady. SO that is a short term pop, sort of controlling the profuse bleeding at this point but there is a serious long term condition like liver cancer or something
[06:23 am] Mitch K: It isnt extremely positive news because the futures market isnt believing it will help, lot of selling in commodities like crude oil and a tentative rebound. GOld is up, which means investors don't trust the news is going to be that effective. That is how i use the news to get a feel for what the initial trades will be like. This sort of thinking might actually mess some of you guys up but it helps me tremendously
[06:25 am] Mitch K: im most tentative myself when the market is extremely negative and opens way down. thats when it is most difficult to tell if there is going to be any rebound or if the selling has washed out the opportunity to do any more shorting
[06:32 am] Mitch K: to buy
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching FB for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching SHAW, LRCX, TRN for top to short
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching CLR for top
[06:33 am] Mitch K: watching ABX for top to short
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching GRPN, DKS, ASH for top to short
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching SBS for bottom to buy
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching WPRT for bottom to buy
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching DGX for bottom to buy
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching RCII, also late to see, prefer rebound first
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching MTN for top to short, late to see
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching FB closer
[06:37 am] Mitch K: ok yes, watch WLT for a bottom; make take a little while
[06:37 am] Mitch K: sorry
[06:37 am] Mitch K: wlt
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching for short in SCSS
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching ETN for top to short
[06:38 am] Mitch K: for possible shorts
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching for top in RHT, ULTA, GMCR
[06:39 am] Mitch K: at least not on this initial spike, should pullback before moving up higher
[06:39 am] Mitch K: i dont expect FB to hold
[06:39 am] Mitch K: consider reducing long position in FB
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching QCOR for top to short
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching RHT closer for top soon
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching SHAW for top to short
[06:42 am] Mitch K: looking for 42.75 area on ABX to cover short, be flexible
[06:43 am] Mitch K: still watching WPRT for bottom
[06:43 am] Mitch K: PCYC needs to dorp quite a bit for me to be itnerested in buying, well below 34. and if it doesnt do that, i just look for something else; get that mindset
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching PCYC for bottom to buy
[06:44 am] Mitch K: more downside on CSTR but prefer rebound first
[06:45 am] Mitch K: RHT turning over
[06:45 am] Mitch K: SCSS should get under 21 to cover short
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching MTN closer to short
[06:46 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[06:47 am] Mitch K: i dont see repeated trades with FB
[06:47 am] Mitch K: consider selling most o f DGX long or at least half
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching MCP for quick short
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching SAP for top to short
[06:48 am] Mitch K: consider selling half of WLT soon
[06:48 am] Mitch K: consider selling SBS long
[06:49 am] Mitch K: not liking MTN, losing patience, taking off screen
[06:49 am] Mitch K: looking for 34.15 area on RCII to cover short
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider covering SHAW short
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching AAWW for short soon
[06:51 am] Mitch K: dont wait for me or Ed to give you exit points, we focus on new ideas
[06:51 am] Mitch K: thats Select Comfort
[06:51 am] Mitch K: consider covering SCSS here 20.65 area or lower
[06:52 am] Mitch K: monitor ROSG how much drop, bigger the drop the bigger the pop; use limit orders on this, big spread
[06:52 am] Mitch K: watching GOLD for top; this usually takes a while
[06:53 am] Mitch K: consider covering ABX short
[06:53 am] Mitch K: im trying to say FB tends to take longer to bottom than many stocks
[06:53 am] Mitch K: watching FB again for bottom, more selling than i thought on this 2nd possible long, take your time
[06:54 am] Mitch K: little more downside on CLR on first helping short
[06:55 am] Mitch K: soon
[06:55 am] Mitch K: 2nd helping short on GRPN
[06:55 am] Mitch K: taking TRN off screen, need room
[06:55 am] Mitch K: watching NUVA for short but want rebound to 20.50 first
[06:55 am] Mitch K: monitoring FTNT
[06:56 am] Mitch K: monitoring UFS
[06:56 am] Mitch K: great action today
[06:56 am] Mitch K: more downside on IRM, waiting for rebound first
[06:57 am] Mitch K: watching LSTR for top to short
[06:57 am] Mitch K: indexes at high of day
[06:58 am] Mitch K: CLR should give 2nd helping short
[06:59 am] Mitch K: watching WPRT closer
[06:59 am] Mitch K: watching ABV for top, lower vol, bigger spread, use limit
[07:00 am] Mitch K: watching IOC for bottom
[07:00 am] Mitch K: RHT stuck; taking off screen, need room
[07:00 am] Mitch K: watching WNR for top
[07:02 am] Mitch K: new low on FB 25.58
[07:03 am] Mitch K: sorry
[07:03 am] Mitch K: unfi
[07:03 am] Mitch K: watching WPRT, should give us 2-3% bounce from bottom
[07:04 am] Mitch K: monitoring TRW
[07:04 am] Mitch K: that is not a good idea, had wrong keyboard
[07:05 am] Mitch K: little more downside on RCII but ok to cover anytime too; taking off screen, need room
[07:07 am] Mitch K: watching LVS for bottom, make take a while but dont forget to watch this
[07:07 am] Mitch K: MLNX short here, late to see, prefer 30 cent rebound
[07:07 am] Mitch K: i like this chart but not the volume, worth watching though, CONN
[07:08 am] Mitch K: not liking AAWW, not patient enough for this
[07:08 am] Mitch K: looking for 47.50 to cover WLT short or lower; be flexible
[07:10 am] Mitch K: good idea joey
[07:10 am] Mitch K: my experience in stocks like TPX is it is hard to trade, unless you had a trading system. this is perfect stock for that because you dont have to watch it, just listen for audio. when you trade something like TPX, what i call an earnings disaster or guidance cut by company, it takes a lot of time to stare at it. and you lose a lot of other ideas inthe meantime
[07:11 am] Mitch K: missed DECK short but now watching for bottom; may take awhile
[07:12 am] Mitch K: Gold prices want to rebound to short this GOLD stock, Randgold
[07:12 am] Mitch K: forget GMCR short, just stuck; taking off screen
[07:13 am] Mitch K: watching AKRX for bottom, maybe close to 14 area
[07:14 am] Mitch K: watching RAX for bottom; should be good
[07:19 am] Mitch K: consider reducing LVS long
[07:19 am] Mitch K: watching RAX closer
[07:19 am] Mitch K: sometime look at the SCSS and TPX chart. same pattern where they have some earnings related news. gaps down pops up and often, very often goes back to bottom again
[07:21 am] Mitch K: consider selling most of IOC, try 64+ area;
[07:24 am] Mitch K: but still weak
[07:24 am] Mitch K: RAX trying to bounce
[07:30 am] Mitch K: but getting interesting, its dropping faster
[07:30 am] Mitch K: still no bottom in RAX yet
[07:31 am] Mitch K: should get a bottom soon, probably 45 holds
[07:32 am] Mitch K: still no buy signal, that $45 omment was a projection, sort of forecast but it shouldnt be weighted heavily,
[07:33 am] Mitch K: there is buy signal on RAX
[07:34 am] Mitch K: or ½
[07:34 am] Mitch K: consider selling 1/3rd of DECK long
[07:35 am] Ed : 5 min chart on right of RAX
[07:35 am] Ed : monitoring APOL for potential short let it run more
[07:37 am] Mitch K: as it moves up
[07:37 am] Mitch K: on the rest of your DECK long, use limit orders to sell at ASK price or higher
[07:37 am] Ed : passsed on APOl short at this level not enough $
[07:38 am] Mitch K: and many of these like DECK pullback a little, on this maybe to 52.50 and then stage another run up, we saw that with many stocks yesterday, even JCP after that first sell signal
[07:38 am] Mitch K: you can do this in stages, i mean the selling in stages
[07:39 am] Mitch K: there is no sell signal yet on DECK, not even close
[07:41 am] Mitch K: i am anticipating a pullback in DECK soon;
[07:42 am] Mitch K: RAX sell signal, early sell signal
[07:42 am] Ed : APOLO has some minor resistance around 34.31 buy would like move into 34.65 to consider short and pull back SPY to take
[07:43 am] Mitch K: its an early weak one so far but i sell on those and watch for re-entry
[07:43 am] Ed : APOLO=APOL
[07:47 am] Mitch K: most stocks dont act like RAX just did where it pulled back a little, just enough to give weak sell signal. then resurges up
[08:09 am] Mitch K: starting to monitor KORS
[08:10 am] Mitch K: what i like the most this time of day are stocks that were up early and sell off. i like the bounce off those bottoms
[08:14 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[08:15 am] Mitch K: im sorry qwert, im not following your question, i sort of lose memory when i scan a whole bunch of stocks
[08:20 am] Mitch K: yes qwert, MNST also fits that. anything that was bullish and then sells off is worth a look at a long on the bottom because there is still some reason why people liked it to bid it up early
[08:32 am] Mitch K: now the VRA chart, where it was up today and is selling off, i dont like that chart because it is more of a sustainable downtrend. i like those RAX chart pattern
[08:33 am] Ed : getting pullback in SPY
[08:47 am] Mitch K: there is that resurging i was talkign about earlier in DECK,
[09:26 am] Mitch K: can i show you guys something, it is a continuation of what i was saying yesterday about a new technique we will have
[09:28 am] Mitch K: this is DECK and I posted to you at 711am pacific time this morning to watch for a bottom. said something like i missed the top and now watching for a bottom
[09:29 am] Mitch K: so what i was saying yesterday is this system will give us a new technique that is easily tradable
[09:29 am] Mitch K: i had waited to post DECK for awhile too.
[09:30 am] Mitch K: this particular trade gives a profit of 70 cents potential on teh short side, easily to borrow, tight spread, high liquidity stock
[09:30 am] Mitch K: in the future, when we start using this i will post the dropping stocks that i find and short them immediately, especially the first drops on most days
[09:31 am] Mitch K: see that lower blue circle? that is a buy signal hidden in there. we will make it more obvious to see but you will hear an audio sound
[09:31 am] Mitch K: jsn, dont make this hard, it is really much easier. part of the problem is adjusting to this compared to the way you have been seeing things before
[09:32 am] Mitch K: and this is a very typical stock we see, not a hot one, just another average trade but you get two trades
[09:32 am] Mitch K: so you could have made the short profit and also the long profit
[09:33 am] Mitch K: same thing with RAX this morning, gave a post to watch for bottom. and the actual sell signal was well above 46.85 when i saw it, went to 45.00 and then bounced. so you will be able to get a short profit and then a long profit
[09:33 am] Mitch K: and as i explained to Ed last night you can manage a lot more trades at the same time, keep scanning, listen for alerts, and watch one single Alert window to see what stock it was instead of searching among maybe 12 chart windows you might have open
[09:34 am] Mitch K: it also reduces your emotions, you wont have to spend a lot of time analyzing, it is just a quick glance and then you take action
[09:34 am] Mitch K: on same stock. but as you get more proficient you can manage more ideas at the same time
[09:35 am] Mitch K: im watching for a long in CL right now, sort of busy for 5 minutes
[09:36 am] Mitch K: did that make sense
[09:37 am] Mitch K: the price printed is not useful and we are deleting that,
[09:37 am] Mitch K: yes eddy, real time, but that was a close up zoom
[09:38 am] Mitch K: distraction
[09:38 am] Mitch K: its a distration
[09:42 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[09:45 am] Mitch K: watching RAX for top to short,
[09:51 am] Mitch K: RAX sell signal a min ago but im a little busy now in a different trade
[09:58 am] Ed : getting pullback in SPY
[10:09 am] Mitch K: maybe get 80-90 cents profit per share
[10:09 am] Mitch K: watching GOLD, Rangold Resources for long entry
[10:11 am] Ed : HAL halted news pending
[10:21 am] Ed : HAL is lowering its view on forecast worse than expected
[10:30 am] Mitch K: nice bounce in SPY, not a trade idea
[10:30 am] Ed : I missed bottom action in SLB if u took long would reduce here
[10:31 am] Ed : HAL reopened
[10:33 am] Ed : ADVANCED trade watching HAL for potential long, be patient and nimble
[10:35 am] Ed : would reduce more HAL long
[10:35 am] Ed : if u took HAL olong would reduce here
[10:36 am] Mitch K: nice one eddy
[11:11 am] Mitch K: we call that HAL a version of a dead cat bounce. now its just dead
[11:12 am] Mitch K: watching for bounce in RAX again
[11:17 am] Mitch K: watching ABX for bottom to buy
[11:17 am] Mitch K: watching RGLD for bottom to buy
[11:35 am] Mitch K: looking for 45.50 on RAX
[11:36 am] Mitch K: ABX isnt as strong as RAX, could get back to 40.80 again
[11:47 am] Ed : advanced trade watch HAL for break of lod with vol. will be quick if it breaks lod. use smaller position
[11:48 am] Ed : covern 3/4 HAL short
[11:49 am] Ed : placing last 1/4 stop at breakeven HAL short
[12:06 pm] Ed : ABX ousts the ceo citing poor stock performance
[12:16 pm] Ed : gewtting pullback in SPY
[12:42 pm] Ed : nice bounce in SPY
[12:46 pm] Ed : SPY new hod
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: later guys
[01:04 pm] Mitch K: big drop in Mens Warehouse, MW
[01:30 pm] Ed : have a great night traders
 [05:52 am] ogking : E, excellent coaching session yesterday. Will concentrate on price action analysis. Thanks again
[05:54 am] mikewd2 -: good morning traders
[05:54 am] mikewd2 -: TPX big gap down, 43%
[05:55 am] Ed : sounds great, take it slow as u may get tad frustrated in beginning but it is well worth the effort will pay dividends, as you will be asessing the now which will be must faster than asessing the later
[05:56 am] ogking : Amen!
[05:57 am] Ed : also as ur transistioning, u can glance at indicators as a back up to see if ur asessing correctly
[05:59 am] ogking : Your so right behavioural interpretation of action of both the equity and mysely.
[06:00 am] ogking : Mysely=Myself
[06:01 am] Ed : exactly
[06:04 am] khall : good morning all
[06:04 am] joeytsa : Good morning Mitch, Ed, traders
*** austria -, Welcome to the TradeStocksAmerica Live Trading Room
[06:04 am] joeytsa : gap up: IRM,NVO,ACOM,VRA,INCY
[06:05 am] joeytsa : gap down: TPX,SCSS,MFRM,KMI
[06:05 am] qwert : thx joey
[06:05 am] joeytsa : looks like the ES range is 1290-1300 so far
[06:05 am] qwert : Good morning to everybody :)
[06:06 am] joeytsa : crude trading right around $85
[06:06 am] mikewd2 -: go oil go
[06:06 am] Ed : so when will we see it at the pumps
[06:07 am] joeytsa : crude inv @ 7:30pst, beige book @ 11pst..fomc guys talking also
[06:07 am] mikewd2 -: gasoline is down a bunch around here.
[06:07 am] joeytsa : 3 months b4 the election :)
[06:07 am] joeytsa : how about scott walker winning
[06:07 am] Ed : oh yea this is time that station owners make there money
[06:07 am] qwert : haha joey but probably true
[06:07 am] mikewd2 -: yep, good news for republicans
[06:07 am] joeytsa : watching pmsnbc was hilarious last night
[06:13 am] skydiver : Good morning Mtich, Ed and, and all the rest of you (the fantastic traders) :)
[06:13 am] eddy : good morning all
[06:13 am] skydiver : gm eddy
[06:13 am] gub : joeytsa - your earlier comments on stocks gap u/gap down - do you mean that the stock will gap up or down at the opening?
[06:14 am] joeytsa : possibly, but they are gapping at the time i type them
[06:14 am] parachute : Good Morning all
[06:15 am] joeytsa : they might close the gap b4 the opening sometimes
[06:15 am] mikewd2 -: gub: those stocks listed have moved several percent since the close.
[06:15 am] lisas : gm all
[06:15 am] joeytsa : right mike, gub: i only look at $ for gaps, while others look at %
[06:16 am] joeytsa : anyone think that "operation twist" gets extended?
[06:17 am] garyb : Good morning everyone!
[06:17 am] joeytsa : whats up gary....good to see you
[06:17 am] mikewd2 -: garyb, wow -
[06:17 am] skydiver : TPX is climbing back up at moment
[06:17 am] khall : hey gary b
[06:17 am] gub : TY all guys!
[06:17 am] skydiver : hey gary
[06:18 am] joeytsa : yeah sky
[06:18 am] skydiver : :)
[06:18 am] garyb : Hey!
[06:18 am] garyb : Good to see you Joey!
[06:19 am] cdougan : Morning all
[06:19 am] joeytsa : i'll shoot you a message later gary
[06:19 am] mikewd2 -: nice two $ bounce back on TPX
[06:19 am] garyb : Hey Mike & Katrina!
[06:19 am] garyb : ok Joey..sounds AWESOME!
[06:19 am] mikewd2 -: you been getting rich on the VIX trades garyb?
[06:20 am] scalpman : Hi guys, gm
[06:20 am] skydiver : yes Mike - read about TPX and SCSS early this morning -- nice pre-market jump on stock
[06:20 am] garyb : Yeh made some on UVXY Mike..you?
[06:20 am] scalpman : Hey joey are you listed Gap up and gap down this morning?
[06:21 am] mikewd2 -: yeah i did on UVXY also, but got out way too early
[06:21 am] joeytsa : MFRM had decent profit/sales..but missed estimates and lowered guidance
[06:21 am] joeytsa : should be above scalp
[06:21 am] joeytsa : @ 6:04
[06:22 am] skydiver : thnx Mitch -
[06:22 am] mikewd2 -: jason, be careful with TPX, its already moved up a bunch
[06:24 am] skydiver : Like your thinking Mitch -
[06:24 am] khall : thanks for the insight Mitch
[06:24 am] joeytsa : agreed Mitch...maybe a small bounce before the next fall
[06:25 am] parachute : thx Mitch
[06:25 am] shark : watching SCSS
[06:25 am] joeytsa : resistance in the 1304-1306 area...maybe a run there to knock out the shorts, then move down
[06:26 am] shark : watching ACOM
[06:26 am] shark : TPX too
[06:28 am] skydiver : yeah - ACOM - looking to sell itseslf is the word I'm hearing
[06:28 am] joeytsa : yeah sky
[06:29 am] garyb : I agree Joey...this bounce is only temporary before the next fall
[06:29 am] skydiver : out 3/4 on TPX L
[06:29 am] joeytsa : unless twist or qe3 kicks in, then all bets off
[06:29 am] joeytsa : but even still, i think it will be weaker than qe1 and 2
[06:30 am] garyb : yeh...and I don't think there will be a ruch to start a QE3
[06:30 am] joeytsa : dpends on how your polls are looking haha
[06:30 am] joeytsa : BBBY nice spike
[06:31 am] joeytsa : CSTR
[06:31 am] mikewd2 -: something going on with FST
[06:31 am] skydiver : all out of TPX L
[06:32 am] joeytsa : FST upgraded by some small firm
[06:32 am] skydiver : NFLX jumped a bit
[06:32 am] mikewd2 -: anything helps joey - haha
[06:32 am] joeytsa : canaccord genuity is them
[06:32 am] joeytsa : maybe not small..never heard of them though
[06:33 am] mikewd2 -: SINA flying
[06:33 am] joeytsa : MAKO up and down quick
[06:34 am] joeytsa : tighten stop if short IRM
[06:35 am] shark : LEN moving today
[06:36 am] joeytsa : trail SCSS is long
[06:37 am] doji : What do you mean Mike?
[06:38 am] mikewd2 -: on sina nice big bounce,
[06:38 am] shark : FB new hod
[06:39 am] doji : The ES was dropping in the pre-market...
[06:39 am] doji : Test
[06:39 am] shark : hi doji, see you
[06:39 am] joeytsa : i see you doji
[06:40 am] garyb : Hey dojjjiiiiiiii!!!
[06:40 am] joeytsa : AMZN going for hod
[06:41 am] mikewd2 -: CHK another nice day
[06:41 am] joeytsa : CHK upgraded by argus
[06:41 am] shark : AAPL new hod
[06:41 am] skydiver : late to see -- LNKD bounced back
[06:41 am] joeytsa : lower high on GS so far..just watching
[06:42 am] shark : watching LEN for top
[06:42 am] doji : Garyyyy!!!
[06:42 am] doji : Have a full busy morning.... see ya later fellas
[06:43 am] skydiver : take care doji
[06:43 am] shark : bye doji :(
[06:43 am] qwert : bye doji
[06:43 am] skydiver : LNKD double top
[06:47 am] shark : DIA new hod
[06:51 am] joeytsa : watching ULTA
[06:53 am] joeytsa : FB trying to hold prev lo
[06:54 am] joeytsa : GS making dbl top, had hled prev hi as support also
[06:54 am] joeytsa : ES testing 1300
[06:55 am] joeytsa : crude might test $86 res
[06:55 am] joeytsa : FFIV hod
[06:56 am] joeytsa : sure is Mitch
[06:57 am] joeytsa : LNKD has big res @ $94 today, setting an alert just above for a break
[06:58 am] skydiver : thnx joey - on LNKD
[06:58 am] joeytsa : LNKD $93 decent support so far
[06:58 am] joeytsa : will put bracket alerts around those #'s, but still might make nice inside trading
[06:59 am] joeytsa : couldnt get WPRT short
[07:03 am] joeytsa : AMZN,BIDU in a 1pt range..setting alerts
[07:05 am] khall : ULTA and MNST still running up
[07:05 am] joeytsa : ULTA just have had nice earnings
[07:05 am] khall : yep
[07:07 am] skydiver : LNKD - dropped
[07:07 am] khall : LNKD dropping
[07:08 am] joeytsa : :)
[07:08 am] joeytsa : trail it down kahll
[07:08 am] joeytsa : khall i mean
[07:08 am] khall : doing it :-)
[07:09 am] joeytsa : nice and quick
[07:10 am] khall : yep
[07:10 am] khall : great trade
[07:10 am] khall : glad I was watching it
[07:10 am] joeytsa : thats why i set alerts
[07:11 am] joeytsa : that system of yours will make things much easier
[07:11 am] skydiver : yes - looking forward to your new system Mitch :)
[07:11 am] joeytsa : never sure if i am hearing my alerts or just teh voices in my head are messing with me again :)
[07:11 am] skydiver : lol joey
[07:12 am] scalpman : SBS may turn over
[07:12 am] joeytsa : SBS has low volume be careful
[07:13 am] joeytsa : watching AMZN 216/217 and BIDU 119/120
[07:14 am] mikewd2 -: watching TPX for bottom
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: CHK nearing $18
[07:20 am] joeytsa : its been over a month since a 2day win streak for teh dow
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: looking to enter TPX long if it holds this bottom
[07:20 am] joeytsa : ES pulling back to 1300
[07:21 am] scalpman : OUt 1/2 RHT 1%
[07:21 am] mikewd2 -: TPX is a sick puppy
[07:21 am] joeytsa : TPX was $80 6 weeks ago
[07:23 am] joeytsa : CRM into prev hi support
[07:23 am] joeytsa : crude # in 5 minutes
[07:23 am] scalpman : Out 2/3 BBBY S
[07:28 am] scalpman : Out another 1/4 RHT S
[07:35 am] joeytsa : crude -0.1M, -1.1M forecast, 2.2M last
[07:37 am] go4it : RAX target lowered 15%rax
[07:37 am] Ed : thx Bruce Bruce
[07:38 am] skydiver : I am L RAX 45.19 - Thnx Mitch
[07:38 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 RAX L
[07:38 am] scalpman : 1%
[07:38 am] go4it : Does that mean we can expect 15% drop in current price
[07:39 am] scalpman : Mitch, RAX moving nicely, thanks....
[07:40 am] skydiver : out 3/4 of RAX L - moved stop up
[07:40 am] scalpman : out another 1/4 RAX L
[07:40 am] qwert : nice sky
[07:40 am] eddy : alll out RAX
[07:41 am] parachute : thx for RAX Mitch!
[07:41 am] skydiver : nice guys on RAX - thnx again Mitch for RAX
[07:41 am] Mitch K: hey parachute, you a skydiver?
[07:41 am] Mitch K: i mean not skydiver, but a jumper
[07:42 am] scalpman : TRailing up stop on RAX ...
[07:42 am] joeytsa : RAX just a beauty
[07:42 am] parachute : I wish I were! Once we had kids I was forbidden. :(
[07:42 am] scalpman : All out RAX
[07:42 am] skydiver : parachute - you sound like my son - when he got married he had to give up skydiving as well
[07:43 am] parachute : all out RAX
[07:43 am] joeytsa : same here...break time :)
[07:43 am] skydiver : enjoy joey - :)
[07:43 am] joeytsa : i will, good morning so far
[07:43 am] Mitch K: whoever skydives should see the 80 year old lady who almost fell out of her harness jumpint tandem. do a search on Youtube for 80 year old woman parachuting.
[07:44 am] joeytsa : thanks
[07:44 am] joeytsa : yeah i saw that Mitch
[07:44 am] joeytsa : thought she was going to come out of her clothes
[07:44 am] skydiver : yes I saw that too -- my wife is wanting to jump sometime, but now after that video - hummm
[07:44 am] joeytsa : sky: i have a parachute for sale..
[07:44 am] joeytsa : never opened, small stain :)
[07:44 am] skydiver : too funny joey :)
[07:44 am] qwert : hahaha
[07:45 am] Mitch K: hey skydiver, you want to take paragliding lessons with me? im sort of interested. i used to do a lot of hanggliding in 70s and 80's
[07:46 am] skydiver : hey - that sounds like fun Mitch
[07:47 am] parachute : I might not be forbidden to paraglide :)
[07:50 am] skydiver : JOY has been a very slow climber today
[07:51 am] scalpman : Mitch, if time you gave specific posted "buy signal" and "sell signal"...on RAX which you don't typically do. If time, could you state specifically how you determined that so that we can mirror add that information to our own trading...
[07:51 am] eddy : Ed did u short APOL?
[07:51 am] Ed : no,
[07:51 am] eddy : k
[07:51 am] scalpman : Was it just stochs, volume, candles, or a combination thereof.
[07:52 am] Ed : it did not move into .60ish area and SPY is still strong
[07:53 am] skydiver : my alert did not go off on CRM - missed the upward move
[07:53 am] skydiver : note to self - work on setting alerts properly
[07:53 am] Ed : FYI scalp for aggressive traders u can the next candle right after the inverted hammer with stop below that
[07:54 am] Ed : on 1min inverted hammer is at 10:31 est
[07:54 am] scalpman : Double Bottom (approx) on TPX....slight higher low...see if it holds
[07:54 am] Ed : u get that scalpman, I know u asked Mitch but was giving my .02
[07:55 am] skydiver : thnx Ed for the teaching - I caught RAX right about there - so - I am slowly catching on :)
[07:56 am] Ed : even though its agressive trade for entry ur risk on stop is very small
[07:56 am] qwert : nice entry sky i got 1/2 there as well :))
[07:56 am] skydiver : nice qwert :)
[07:57 am] scalpman : Thanks ed....I will study...
[07:58 am] Ed : I think my entry was 45.12 and stop was 45.09 so only risked .03
[07:58 am] skydiver : Very good Ed
[07:59 am] scalpman : I see.. my entry was higher...I see that mitch posted it, and then I entered...are .33
[07:59 am] scalpman : still made a nice profit.
[07:59 am] Ed : but great point scalpman, study it that way u can test and see how well it works to get comfy
[07:59 am] scalpman : wow...that is s a tight stop...
[07:59 am] Ed : oh yeah, even at that price, as I said b4 I know guys that enter well after I do and make 3x as much. Its how u manage position
[07:59 am] scalpman : Oh, LONG TPX @ 23.18
[08:01 am] scalpman : Out 1/2 TPX L
[08:01 am] scalpman : 1%
[08:03 am] skydiver : nice scalp - :) Well have to take off for the day. See you all tomorrow. Had a decent day and learned lots.
[08:03 am] Ed : nice trading sky
[08:03 am] skydiver : :)
[08:03 am] eddy : Bye sky
[08:04 am] scalpman : TPX could move to 24
[08:05 am] eddy : s SCSS at 20.94
[08:06 am] scalpman : Thanks skydiver
[08:06 am] Ed : nice trading scalpman, way to bounce back
[08:07 am] scalpman : Nope...was stopped on last half...
[08:09 am] scalpman : 3rd bottom on TPX still a higher low...if it holds...these sellers are voracious!
[08:09 am] scalpman : TPX will probably go sideways now for a while.
[08:09 am] qwert : scalp at some point there will be no sellers left :))
[08:09 am] pirate : watching PXD
[08:12 am] Mitch K: hey pirate, how have you been?
[08:13 am] qwert : Mitch would MNST fit that if it breaks above 74.40ish
[08:13 am] pirate : thx for asking....in n out of hospital with dad so not trading much...just the good ones
[08:16 am] scalpman : qwert yes.....watching...
[08:17 am] scalpman : qwert, I have alerts set...at 23 and 23.60
[08:17 am] lisas : sorry to hear pirate, hope he's better
[08:17 am] qwert : i was talking about your post at 8:10 what i like the most this time of day are stocks that were up early and sell off. i like the bounce off those bottoms
[08:21 am] qwert : thx mitch
[08:23 am] eddy : more buying in SPY and non in KORS....Bd sign for long right?
[08:24 am] joeytsa : agreed Mitch, also the johnny-come-latelys might jump on the bandwagon
[08:29 am] Ed : what day did I mention watch gold, abx, gld, for breakout? missed them all
[08:30 am] Ed : yea eddy, trading in small range so no trade
[08:30 am] joeytsa : GDX another one for your gold list Ed
[08:31 am] joeytsa : the miners etf
[08:31 am] Ed : were not we all suppose to be watching?? and aler each other hmmm.
[08:32 am] joeytsa : EQIX testing hod
[08:32 am] joeytsa : yeah..hey Ed..gold is moving :)
[08:32 am] Ed : lol
[08:32 am] Ed : thx
[08:32 am] eddy : abx broke support
[08:33 am] joeytsa : missed that dbl bottom pos div on SCSS earlier...but very nice signal
[08:34 am] Ed : good eye pirate on PXD
[08:35 am] doji : Hi fellas, back to the room for 1 hour... starting now so I need ideas or I'll end up with $0 today again... haha
[08:35 am] pirate : ylike watching paint dry....loltime to exit and look for more paint
[08:36 am] scalpman : New low TPX
[08:39 am] scalpman : TPX resistance now 23.00
[08:40 am] joeytsa : ULTA making a move
[08:41 am] doji : Wow the SPY up 1.75% alreday
[08:44 am] eddy : ABX new LOD
[08:49 am] doji : 10:49 EDT - While KeyBanc says it feared consensus 2Q forecasts were too high for Tempur-Pedic (TPX), "we were not expecting anything as dramatic as today's announcement." Neither were investors; the stock has tumbled 46% to $23.59 , hitting a 2 1/2-year low, after having already been halved since mid-April's 1Q report. KeyBanc, which had TPX at buy since April 2009 (it was around $10 then and got as high as $87.43 two months ago), pulls its $85 price target. "We had been optimistic than the rapidly growing specialty-mattress category offered enough room for TPX and competitors to increase revenue," but TPX's update shows "that is clearly not the case."
[08:50 am] doji : After this 45% pullback, now Keybanc is downgrading TPX... hahaha
[08:50 am] Ed : suntrust did also about 10 minutes ago, guess they saw it coming
[08:51 am] doji : Yes, after it dropped 45%... even a blind man can see that
[08:51 am] Ed : true
[08:53 am] doji : The SPY has been riding a perfect trendline from the open... I wonder if this a sort of computer program that trigger the buy signal everythime it hits that trenline
[08:54 am] Ed : anything is possible
[08:54 am] Ed : getting seom - divergence, will see how it plays out, if can resurgence
[08:55 am] Ed : some neg. divergence
[08:56 am] doji : It just broke that trendline ont the 1min chart
[08:56 am] Ed : did not get alot of selling coming into markets
[08:56 am] Ed : got that resurgence
[08:57 am] doji : LNKD double bottom... it's a laggard today
[08:57 am] eddy : L ABX AT 42
[08:57 am] doji : Ed, the $TICK chart has been above 0 most of the day
[08:58 am] Ed : yep most,
[08:59 am] doji : 42.35 is resistance on ABX Eddy
[08:59 am] eddy : THX DOJI
[09:03 am] eddy : all out ABX 1/2 42 .18 1/2 stopped at 42.10
[09:07 am] scalpman : Well, time to go....today, I had a good sense of the market and very green.
[09:08 am] Ed : nice going scalp
[09:08 am] scalpman : Thanks to all for excellent ideas.
[09:08 am] scalpman : See tomorrow.
[09:08 am] eddy : bye scalp
[09:08 am] cdougan : c ya scalp
[09:08 am] khall : see ya tomorrow scalp
[09:08 am] scalpman : by dougan, khall, et al.
[09:08 am] scalpman : Scalpman has left the building!
[09:09 am] qwert : cya scalp
[09:09 am] cdougan : Ed Thoughts on APOL short? Or spy too strong?
[09:11 am] Ed : spy too strong and APOL being bid up by market makers right now
[09:11 am] Ed : so will pass
[09:12 am] cdougan : Thx. How do you know it's gettijng bid up by market makers?
[09:12 am] Ed : notice the move on almost no vol
[09:12 am] cdougan : yep
[09:13 am] cdougan : Interesting
[09:14 am] Ed : its definitely bigger force than us, beit inst. or makets. U see it at times end of month and beginning
[09:14 am] cdougan : Had no idea that that occured.
[09:15 am] Ed : so what u like is if vol really shows up, its like the card player showing u his hands,
[09:15 am] doji : That is our ED!... Great Lessons!
[09:16 am] cdougan : Yep thanks ED.
[09:16 am] Ed : those can wear you out tryn to short, I learned the hard way
[09:16 am] Ed : I meant I read about it happening to others. LOL
[09:16 am] doji : Me too Ed, me too...
[09:16 am] doji : lol
[09:18 am] cdougan : Alright that's all for me. Thanks everyone. Have to go to work! Thanks for the calls and have a great day all.
[09:19 am] Ed : cya cdougan
[09:19 am] eddy : bye cdoug
[09:19 am] qwert : bye cdoug
[09:22 am] eddy : hmmm BAC made an 8% jump today...should have monitored it
[09:22 am] parachute : Going to head out. Thx for passing on some great stuff today
[09:23 am] Ed : c ya parachute
[09:23 am] eddy : bye parachute
[09:26 am] eddy : sure Mitch
[09:27 am] eddy : victor which sim are you using?
[09:27 am] jsn13 : SURE mitch
[09:28 am] lisas : please do Mitch, I wasn't here yesterday
[09:28 am] jsn13 : what stock is this?
[09:28 am] qwert : cooooolll
[09:29 am] lisas : so would you enter on break above the band I'm guessing
[09:29 am] lisas : easy is GOOD!
[09:30 am] jsn13 : Does it take into consideration the support resistance?
[09:31 am] lisas : are these going to be stocks that start dropping well after the open, or are you talking about AT the open?
[09:31 am] lisas : oh, I see the open line
[09:31 am] lisas : now I dont, lol
[09:32 am] lisas : looks like it keeps us on track during the consolidation areas that might trick us into entering too early
[09:32 am] eddy : this is great
[09:32 am] jsn13 : U plan to have webinars to teach us how to us it right?
[09:34 am] jsn13 : can u show us RAX?
[09:34 am] qwert : canwe see it in realtime looks cool
[09:36 am] lisas : yes, sound really promising!
[09:36 am] qwert : yep were ready
[09:36 am] eddy : yes can you have it real time on this screen Mitch?
[09:37 am] jsn13 : Yup made sense...does the system shows ur ahievable good entries? What is the purpose of the price printed?
[09:37 am] victor51 : It will be great addition for traders like me with slow fingers. Thank Mitch
[09:38 am] jsn13 : does the system show us achievable good entries?
[09:39 am] jsn13 : maybe show any stock that is setting up and let us watch the signals? Juz a suggestion...
[09:43 am] eddy : RAX
[09:45 am] go4it : Is HD setting up for short
[09:45 am] jsn13 : Mitch can u show us RAX using ur system in real time?
[09:46 am] jsn13 : Let us see ur sell signal....
[09:47 am] Ed : not enough money in Hd short at this level has consolidation right under 50.15 and riding the 20 and 50
[09:51 am] Ed : hey Jsn he mentioned he would be busy for about 5min
[09:51 am] Ed : he is in a trade
[09:51 am] jsn13 : No prob....did u take RAX short?
[09:52 am] Ed : no, not my type of trade
[09:53 am] jsn13 : ok I did not take it either, not enough money for me...how but u? why did u pass?
[09:53 am] jsn13 : *bout
[09:53 am] Ed : just not my style of trade
[09:54 am] jsn13 : ok....thanks....
[09:54 am] Ed : tryn to think of different response but blank right now
[09:55 am] jsn13 : haha i usually dont short the top for bounces...
[09:56 am] Ed : no has more to do with how stock is positioned on daily
[09:56 am] Ed : does not mean its not good short, I just pass on those
[09:57 am] jsn13 : ok gotcha...thanks...
[09:58 am] doji : Jason, RAX is not the type of "girl" Ed likes, got it?
[09:58 am] Ed : i cant stop laughing
[09:58 am] qwert : hahaha
[09:58 am] jsn13 : Hahahahahah
[09:58 am] doji : He needs to see the "stuff" first before committing his hard earned money
[09:59 am] doji : That, is by the way, an analogy
[09:59 am] qwert : hahahaha
[09:59 am] jsn13 : was RAX ur type of girl, dojiÉ
[09:59 am] Ed : lol
[10:00 am] eddy : all out RAX long then short
[10:00 am] eddy : finally reached BE for the day
[10:00 am] jsn13 : ABX
[10:01 am] ogking : look like the market makers are back from lunch
[10:03 am] doji : No Jason.... but better you don't ask me that here.... or I'll be in trouble
[10:04 am] lisas : something caused gold to drop
[10:04 am] lisas : something caused gold to drop
[10:04 am] Ed : i sold my 1 bar
[10:04 am] doji : Yes, 7 dollar
[10:04 am] doji : Ed sold is golend teeth
[10:04 am] doji : dolden
[10:05 am] Ed : lol
[10:05 am] Ed : the one I kept in my pocket
[10:06 am] lisas : anyone else having room freeze up?
[10:06 am] victor51 : No LIsa
[10:06 am] Ed : only people on beaches
[10:06 am] shark : lol
[10:06 am] lisas : :)
[10:06 am] Ed : i made sure I took my time spelling that one
[10:07 am] lisas : oooh Eddddd
[10:07 am] doji : Better you did Ed..... lol
[10:07 am] Ed : lol
[10:07 am] doji : Sorry Lisas... you know Ed....
[10:07 am] Ed : I know how sometimes one can type to fast
[10:07 am] lisas : yes I DO
[10:07 am] khall : no, but I have friends that do
[10:07 am] Ed : like yesterday wi
[10:08 am] Ed : i read about it happening
[10:09 am] doji : Mark Hulbert: Market significantly undervalued
[10:09 am] doji : Anyone knows this guy?
[10:10 am] doji : CHK at VWAP
[10:10 am] parachute : Back from lunch
[10:10 am] Ed : not really
[10:11 am] Ed : u did not miss too much parachute
[10:11 am] Ed : maybe 2 ideas
[10:12 am] parachute : Usually not at this time. Primetime is before noon EST
[10:12 am] Ed : depends sometimes u get some movers, each day is different
[10:12 am] Ed : some news movers
[10:12 am] shark : and rumors
[10:13 am] Ed : exactly
[10:13 am] parachute : Not that I know anything but signals seem much surer in the AM
[10:14 am] Ed : right, but later in day we are more selective and look for high probabiltiy trades which are typically news movers/rumors
[10:14 am] mikewd2 -: HAL halted
[10:14 am] Ed : but some make great living just trading those 1st 90 minutes
[10:14 am] parachute : I will stay tuned. I haven't really tried to trade news
[10:15 am] qwert : you might get your chance with HAL
[10:15 am] parachute : :)
[10:15 am] Ed : I would trade in sim, news movers tend to be pretty fast, and most of time looking to reverse the prevailing trend
[10:15 am] Ed : for advanced traders news movers can offer buy/sell but have to be nimble
[10:16 am] parachute : Definately in SIM as i learn how things go in the trading room
[10:16 am] doji : SLB dropping... following HAL being halt
[10:16 am] doji : halted
[10:17 am] doji : Oil also dropping
[10:20 am] doji : News in the market? SLB is dropping hard
[10:21 am] Ed : TRADING NEWS, NEVER ASSUME POS. NEWS= BULLISH AND NEVER ASSUME NEG. NEWS=BEARISH
[10:22 am] doji : Mike, that is what I was talking about before
[10:22 am] joeytsa : good advice Ed
[10:22 am] Ed : unless you hear the F word=Fraud and SEC never good
[10:22 am] joeytsa : accounting irregularities :)
[10:22 am] Ed : also
[10:22 am] Ed : thx joey
[10:23 am] joeytsa : some news leads to a trend,other news is an overreaction
[10:24 am] joeytsa : VRTX last week was a fadeable overreaction
[10:25 am] victor51 : RAX slow and steady drop. Might reverse?
[10:31 am] eddy : all out slb long
[10:31 am] doji : 13:27 EDT - Halliburton (HAL) becomes the latest to issue dour news about the US oilfield-services sector, saying the decline in 2Q North American margins from last quarter will be twice what the company had projected. It blames increased fracking costs related to guar gum, an agricultural commodity used in the fluids that are part of the shale-cracking process. HAL says prices have surged more than anticipated amid investor fears of a shortage later this year. India produces some 80% of the annual global production of guar bean, and guar gum is also used as a thickener in products such as cosmetics and ice cream. HAL, halted ahead of the news, is down 14% this year. (kevin.kingsbury@ dowjones.com)
[10:32 am] doji : 13:27 EDT - Halliburton (HAL) becomes the latest to issue dour news about the US oilfield-services sector, saying the decline in 2Q North American margins from last quarter will be twice what the company had projected. It blames increased fracking costs related to guar gum, an agricultural commodity used in the fluids that are part of the shale-cracking process. HAL says prices have surged more than anticipated amid investor fears of a shortage later this year. India produces some 80% of the annual global production of guar bean, and guar gum is also used as a thickener in products such as cosmetics and ice cream. HAL, halted ahead of the news, is down 14% this year. (kevin.kingsbury@ dowjones.com)
[10:32 am] Ed : thx doji
[10:32 am] jsn13 : Mitch, has ur system show a buy signal to cover the RAX short juz now?
[10:32 am] joeytsa : thx doji
[10:33 am] Ed : nimble means quick
[10:36 am] jsn13 : Ed, ur entry and exit for HAL?
[10:36 am] gub : Mitch - I shorted HAL on your call and made some good $. TY!
[10:36 am] doji : HAL price almost back to where it dropped from....
[10:37 am] Ed : 28.96 entry out 29.37 and 29.51
[10:37 am] doji : Did Mitch call to short HAL?
[10:37 am] gub : would reduce more HAL long
[10:37 am] gub : your words!
[10:38 am] Ed : did u short or go long gub?
[10:38 am] jsn13 : Ok thanks Ed...so the entry time is?
[10:38 am] gub : shorted 1000shares when Mitch said would reduce more HAL long at 10.35.
[10:39 am] gub : 29.55 out - 29.39.
[10:39 am] Ed : thx for the sympathy trade in SLB doji missed it though
[10:39 am] joeytsa : both stocks worked perfect
[10:39 am] joeytsa : SLB classic overreaction
[10:41 am] Ed : 1:33 est my stop 28.76. would have reasses action
[10:41 am] doji : SLB Short here
[10:42 am] Ed : if i got stopped
[10:42 am] doji : Rality should catch up with the stock sooner rather than later
[10:42 am] gub : Just shorted Hal again b -29.12; out 29.01.
[10:42 am] eddy : all out hal short
[10:42 am] jsn13 : thanks ed...
[10:43 am] gub : It seems the higher shares you buy the more you make - daaaah. But more risk.
[10:44 am] eddy : i need Valium after trading HAL
[10:44 am] Ed : lol
[10:44 am] gub : yes eddy
[10:44 am] gub : read the bible instead of valium.
[10:44 am] eddy : ya might be helful gub
[10:45 am] gub : Mitch would agree also.
[10:45 am] doji : Hal to lose 29 soon
[10:46 am] eddy : not touchin Hal anymore
[10:46 am] gub : should we short the hell out of it doji???
[10:46 am] gub : HAL
[10:46 am] eddy : hehehe funy gub
[10:47 am] eddy : i wud hire u as a copywriter:)
[10:47 am] gub : TY but I wouldn't hire me as one.
[10:47 am] gub : tongue too loose.
[10:48 am] eddy : Ed wud u take hal long again?
[10:48 am] gub : HAL - like the demon drop.
[10:49 am] joeytsa : nice midday flurry there
[10:49 am] Ed : not at this level
[10:49 am] doji : Die HAL die
[10:49 am] eddy : hit us with a signal if u can nd wen u feel it is gd entry ...only if u can
[10:49 am] gub : 28.93 in HAL 28.77 out HAL
[10:50 am] gub : 3 for 3
[10:50 am] doji : I am short from 29.38... will keep it as swing trade...
[10:50 am] gub : I have no idea what HAL does but I can tell you I like the company.
[10:50 am] doji : as small position although
[10:51 am] gub : joji I'm a rookie and you are the pro - this is why I'm in the same room as you all.
[10:52 am] doji : The drop in HAL is in a more steady pace compared with the initail drop
[10:52 am] gub : good job doji!
[10:52 am] joeytsa : all out HAL
[10:52 am] doji : First is overeaction, now a reality check....
[10:54 am] jsn13 : doji, what was ut signal to short at 29.38 for HAL?
[10:54 am] jsn13 : *ur
[10:55 am] doji : The inverted hammer at 1:37PM after it didn't make a new high
[10:56 am] Ed : and change of polarity, will draw the line
[10:56 am] doji : from previous pivot
[10:56 am] joeytsa : nice doji, i took it on the next bar
[10:57 am] Ed : blue line became resistance along with ma's, picots, etc
[10:57 am] gub : go long HAL?
[10:57 am] joeytsa : lunchtime..see you in 30
[10:58 am] Ed : people who had stock, crapped in there pants and were happy when stock went back up, creating selling pressure
[10:58 am] doji : It also hit the VWAP
[10:58 am] doji : so several signals at once
[10:58 am] Ed : him to
[10:58 am] doji : hahaha
[10:58 am] jsn13 : Ok R1 at 29.60..and all the other signals....got it...
[10:58 am] doji : No Gub
[10:59 am] Ed : and sellers who were frightened by news
[10:59 am] eddy : stopped out on hal long
[10:59 am] jsn13 : how bout the decreasing volume when it was going up? less demand?
[10:59 am] doji : Nice it looks like an orderly unload...
[10:59 am] doji : so market is not disturbed
[11:00 am] Ed : as well, thats what u call putting all the pieces together, but quickly like warp speed
[11:00 am] jsn13 : doji, no more zero profit for the day?
[11:00 am] doji : Nope
[11:00 am] Ed : doji made1000000000000000000000 today
[11:01 am] khall : he's flying us all to his house
[11:01 am] jsn13 : thanks ed, good lesson....hahahaha......Ed, may i know what have u tarded so far?
[11:01 am] jsn13 : *traded
[11:01 am] Ed : uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:01 am] doji : That is in $Rupias, Ed
[11:01 am] shark : :)
[11:01 am] doji : 10,000 Rupias = 1USD
[11:02 am] Ed : u can still spend it
[11:02 am] shark : LEN breaking down thru R1
[11:02 am] doji : A 5 start hotel in Jakarta, Indonesia, including the 1-hr trip from/to the aiport and breakfast cost only 50 bucks....
[11:03 am] doji : or $500,000 rupias....
[11:03 am] doji : and I was complaining hahahah
[11:03 am] doji : Got scared to see some many zerossss
[11:03 am] doji : See ya in 1/2 hour, have to get back to work
[11:04 am] Ed : just always think to urself, "Im dojiman, I pay no taxes"
[11:04 am] khall : ha ha ha. If we think that, we may end up in jail...
[11:04 am] Ed : and better yet its legal
[11:04 am] Ed : thats why its only for dojiman
[11:04 am] khall : LOL
[11:05 am] Ed : and his 20million neighbors
[11:06 am] eddy : thx Mitch for "nice one Eddy" Hal had kept me busy earlier
[11:07 am] gub : abx slow and easy down!
[11:08 am] gub : abx=$
[11:08 am] gub : been riding it down since 13:40
[11:10 am] gub : abx - stopped out for .34 gain short.
[11:11 am] qwert : lol
[11:11 am] Ed : tpx cant find a buyer
[11:11 am] Ed : being tortued by sellers
[11:13 am] gub : RAX of Lamb!
[11:13 am] shark : now I'm getting hungry
[11:14 am] shark : ULTA testing VWAP
[11:14 am] gub : 14.14 a good entry signal for RAX long?
[11:14 am] shark : SPY pulling back
[11:17 am] gub : doji did you make $ on LEN?
[11:18 am] Ed : no buy signal yet on RAX, gub
[11:18 am] gub : TY - ED
[11:21 am] eddy : LONG ABX 40.55
[11:25 am] gub : come to pappa ABX.
[11:26 am] gub : we won't hurt you ABX.
[11:27 am] gub : we just want some $ that's all
[11:32 am] gub : Mitch - TY for the heads up on ABX and RGLD!
[11:33 am] gub : 14:32 hammer is this a sell signal if going long?
[11:33 am] eddy : All out ABX 40.74
[11:33 am] Ed : nice trade eddy
[11:33 am] gub : nice eddy - I hammered it too!
[11:34 am] eddy : thx Ed
[11:34 am] eddy : way to go gub
[11:34 am] gub : TY ed.
[11:34 am] Ed : way to go gub
[11:34 am] gub : TY Ed.
[11:34 am] eddy : which ed gub?
[11:35 am] Ed : Ed, Eddy and Eddie
[11:35 am] gub : 14:32 hammer was this a sell signal if going long?
[11:35 am] eddy : yup those lol
[11:35 am] qwert : haha
[11:36 am] Ed : dont understand question gub and which stock
[11:36 am] gub : ABX
[11:36 am] parachute : What was your signal on RAX long
[11:38 am] gub : I got out there - Ed
[11:38 am] gub : 14.32
[11:38 am] Ed : yes good spot
[11:38 am] gub : TY - Ed.
[11:41 am] Ed : if u use stochastics had sell signal from peak and turn over on indicators, price action u had selling into potential area of resistance and confirmation by bearish engulfing pattern speakn of ABX 14:31 and 14:32 est
[11:41 am] gub : Mitch - how do you know 45:50 is the spot for action?
[11:41 am] gub : RAX?
[11:42 am] parachute : and buy signal on RAX?
[11:43 am] khall : Time is up for me - see you guys tomorrow - thanks :-)
[11:43 am] Ed : gub that comes from Mitch's experience as trader
[11:43 am] Ed : c ya khall
[11:43 am] shark : bye khall
[11:43 am] eddy : bye Khal
[11:43 am] gub : Ed - TY.
[11:43 am] qwert : bye khall
[11:44 am] Ed : thats also last area where u had breakdown in selling and area of consolidation much earlier in the day
[11:44 am] joeytsa : nasdaq with FB payouts
[11:45 am] Ed : ws speakn of RAX
[11:45 am] shark : I'll take some, joey!
[11:45 am] joeytsa : had to do with orders at $42
[11:45 am] shark : I think my order was over $44
[11:46 am] shark : 2nd minute after open
[11:50 am] joeytsa : its been a fun D-day so far
[11:50 am] eddy : too fast for me was hal went in nd out nd contributed commission to scwab...nothing for me :)
[11:50 am] Ed : this is where platform makes a difference
[11:51 am] shark : you got that right, Ed!
[11:53 am] joeytsa : so far the white house is saying no more bush/obama tax cuts
[11:54 am] eddy : will switch to ninja soon...just need to find the energy and time to learn to use...way to much info and stress for my first 3 months of trading
[11:56 am] gub : eddy it is stressful.
[11:57 am] eddy : how long have u been trading gub?
[12:02 pm] gub : eddy sorry was distrated with trading.
[12:03 pm] eddy : np
[12:03 pm] gub : Got the TS platform in Jan, this year and learning it and I know it pretty good.
[12:03 pm] gub : I'm devoting more time to it because I feel I'm getting the hang of it.
[12:04 pm] gub : For last 14 days been doing it 70% of time between my at home work and trading.
[12:04 pm] gub : If I trade daily I seem to do better.
[12:05 pm] shark : :)
[12:05 pm] gub : Mondays are horrible days for me if I trade because I seem to forget a lot over the weekend.
[12:06 pm] eddy : cool
[12:06 pm] gub : Since Mitch is going to present his new trading platform and will make us all millionaires - I figure I am going to start boning up so I'm ready.
[12:07 pm] joeytsa : probably give him a $50M "bonus" also
[12:07 pm] gub : to make $ that is.
[12:09 pm] gub : Since Mitch makes so much money trasding daily I figure I'll be able to afford his extra $10.00$a month platform fee he's so kindly considering.
[12:09 pm] gub : Right Mitch?
[12:10 pm] doji : Back for last hour
[12:10 pm] doji : What is going on with FB?
[12:10 pm] gub : I can tell you this isn't easy stuff to do - at least for me.
[12:11 pm] lisas : Takes time gub, but it will eventually make sense
[12:11 pm] gub : But if you follow Mitch's recommendations - there pretty accurate.
[12:12 pm] Ed : its like that for 90%, but ur in the right place to learn to be conistent and successful, what makes % so high has to do more with the emotionall component especially once one has the basic knowledge
[12:12 pm] gub : Some take time but they seem to go in the direction he says.
[12:13 pm] gub : Yes this is 100% true Ed.
[12:14 pm] parachute : I have only been watching since monday and the percentage of wins is super
[12:14 pm] gub : The basic knowledge will come by obseving this trading room; and to study the charts the next day after you gett all the recommendations - you will start to get the hang of it.
[12:15 pm] gub : My problem has been setting stoips to tight and knocking me out of trades.
[12:15 pm] parachute : I have been going back through the archive and seeing all that i missed because there were so many ideas
[12:16 pm] gub : Study them the next day and you will see most do what Mitch and the rest of the guys mention.
[12:16 pm] parachute : I have trouble with the stops too but I think that is about fear
[12:16 pm] parachute : and not trusting the calls
[12:17 pm] shark : parachute -stops has to do with position size and risk managment
[12:17 pm] gub : I can tell you if you just work with 1 - 4 ideas to begin with you will be able to make better decisions then try to grab all of them
[12:17 pm] shark : how much upside potential vs. continued downside loss
[12:18 pm] joeytsa : good point shark
[12:18 pm] doji : Drop in SPY
[12:18 pm] parachute : thx for the help guys
[12:18 pm] victor51 : Ed, MacD and Stoch signals at the same time, I don't have problem place an order. But when one lags the other in signal, how do we select which indicator and is it different for short Vs Long.
[12:18 pm] gub : You need the charts in front of your face and you will have a bead on what it's going to do so you can make a good decision on.
[12:19 pm] Ed : best way to approach attitude toward stops, is realize that stops are ur cost to find out if trade will work in ur favor. Also great remarks by shark also
[12:20 pm] gub : If you try to input all Mitch's idea's you will spend your time doing that instead of analying what to do.
[12:20 pm] gub : That was my problem.
[12:20 pm] gub : Now that I'm focusing on a few I seem to be doing better.
[12:20 pm] parachute : i learned that the first day- i was overwhelmed. Have tried to to focus on a few the last two days
[12:21 pm] eddy : the only way to manage stops prpoerly is to overcome fear.the only way to overcome feel is confidence in ones knowledge...and that require a lot more than basic learnings. it needs time to aquire the knowledge
[12:21 pm] eddy : feel=fear
[12:21 pm] Ed : victor do u still use setup from videos
[12:22 pm] gub : practice on a sim account is a must in my opion - I'd be wiped out if I didn't do sim tradeing at first.
[12:23 pm] gub : It's much easier trading when the market is going in a forcful direction either up or down I've found out.
[12:23 pm] eddy : which sim did u use gub?
[12:23 pm] gub : more prodictable.
[12:23 pm] gub : Tradestation
[12:24 pm] eddy : im done for the day
[12:24 pm] eddy : see ya tom nd thx for everything
[12:24 pm] joeytsa : bye eddy
[12:24 pm] Ed : c ya eddy
[12:24 pm] gub : by eddy
[12:24 pm] lisas : bye eddy
[12:25 pm] Ed : hey victor, you use setup from videos
[12:25 pm] gub : Ed - set ups? - chart set ups?
[12:26 pm] Ed : he was speakn of macd,and stochastics so was curious of his setup
[12:26 pm] gub : oh yea.
[12:26 pm] Ed : did Victor leave?
[12:26 pm] joeytsa : he's here
[12:27 pm] Ed : want to respond to his question but need more info
[12:27 pm] joeytsa : looks like he's writing
[12:27 pm] gub : Today was first time I palced so many trades in the first 10 minutes and I've done better then I ever have. Is this haow to do it?
[12:27 pm] gub : Right away in first few minutes?
[12:28 pm] joeytsa : its not quantity, it quality you want
[12:28 pm] lisas : Depends, today they worked well, doesn't happen that way every day
[12:29 pm] lisas : Sometimes it's hard to guage initial overall market action, and that can overwhelm specific stock behavior, ie a stock gapping on news, etc
[12:29 pm] victor51 : Ed, yes. MacD 12,26,9, Stoch. 10,8,81,20,80, Mov. ave 5/20/50 ave. volume. i am really analyzing in Sim for next two weeks
[12:29 pm] gub : this appeared to be case. I picked a few and went with them and watched them and made good $ decisions based on what I learned from Mitch's scalping videos and it worked just like he explained.
[12:29 pm] Ed : how long u been traing with those setups?
[12:29 pm] victor51 : Ed, I also like upper/lower bollinger band
[12:30 pm] Ed : ok
[12:30 pm] victor51 : three months
[12:30 pm] gub : I hope this just wasn't a fluck day and I'm starting to get this.
[12:30 pm] gub : It seemed so easy today.
[12:30 pm] lisas : gub, it usually works
[12:31 pm] Ed : how is it going overall?
[12:31 pm] lisas : some days it doesn't, and it's not that you did anything wrong
[12:31 pm] gub : It seemed to be better cause I stared right from the opening bell placing trades.
[12:31 pm] Ed : are u felling comfortable with the indicators?
[12:32 pm] gub : started
[12:32 pm] gub : Yes - but you must follow all of them to increase your odds don't you.
[12:32 pm] victor51 : Ed, B/E or little loss but no green yet
[12:32 pm] Ed : or are u fellin overwhelmed?
[12:33 pm] lisas : gub, true. Somedays though the reversal, or countrend pullbacks will take a second attempt to work
[12:33 pm] Ed : Actually, that is great, so just some minor tweeking and will get to next level
[12:33 pm] gub : going from say long to short or vice versa?
[12:33 pm] gub : lisas
[12:34 pm] parachute : anyone just use price action?
[12:34 pm] Ed : I say that bcuz many people lose quite a bit when trading
[12:34 pm] Ed : yes I do parachute
[12:34 pm] joeytsa : i do too, esp in conjuction with s/r
[12:34 pm] gub : s/r?
[12:34 pm] lisas : example, a stock moves up off the open, waiting to take it short, think I see short entry and take it. Overall market action is really strong however, so stop hit. Second leg up to short will usually work.
[12:34 pm] Ed : so little loss to breakeven is plus
[12:34 pm] joeytsa : price action IS trading
[12:35 pm] joeytsa : s/r = support/resistance
[12:35 pm] gub : TY
[12:36 pm] doji : See ya guys tomorrow
[12:36 pm] lisas : Gotta run, thank all!
[12:36 pm] Ed : c ya doji
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : bye doji
[12:36 pm] joeytsa : bye lisa
[12:36 pm] Ed : c ya lisa
[12:36 pm] doji : Taking home my swing short in HAL
[12:36 pm] gub : s/r is my problem - do you look at daily chart for this?
[12:36 pm] lisas : oh, wait, it only SEEMS like it's past 4:00
[12:36 pm] doji : Bye Lisas
[12:37 pm] parachute : After some experimentation with indicators I found price action and some Bollinger Bands worked best
[12:37 pm] joeytsa : this whole game is price action and s/r
[12:37 pm] gub : joji - thanks for LEN rec - made some $ in it today.
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : s/r can be whatever yuo make it to be, all depends on the individual stock to me
[12:38 pm] parachute : looking forward to learning some great things from you guys
[12:38 pm] gub : HAL go long?
[12:38 pm] joeytsa : you tell me :)
[12:41 pm] gub : I did already.
[12:42 pm] shark : UVXY drop
[12:42 pm] gub : on 3rd green candle.
[12:44 pm] gub : going up.
[12:46 pm] gub : joesystsa - bought 27.98 and sold for 28.11 1k shares - good?
[12:46 pm] qwert : Bye everybody cya all in the am great calls today
[12:46 pm] gub : could of done better but hinsight is always easy.
[12:47 pm] shark : bye qwert
[12:47 pm] gub : by shark
[12:47 pm] Ed : c ya qwert
[12:48 pm] gub : Ed did you take HAL long here last 10 minutes?
[12:50 pm] gub : How do you know like on this cahrt you have set up on HAL that it will produce a red candle and go down?
[12:50 pm] gub : 15:48 or 15.49 candle?
[12:51 pm] gub : on HAL?
[12:51 pm] Ed : no actually helping someone, missed it
[12:52 pm] gub : Do you lok at daily chart to determine this?
[12:53 pm] Ed : 1 sec gub
[12:53 pm] gub : ok
[12:56 pm] joeytsa : tons of orders between 28.08-28.10 on HAL
[12:56 pm] Ed : 3 more minutes actually gub, helping another trader from the room
[12:58 pm] joeytsa : DGIT big spike
[12:58 pm] joeytsa : late in the day though
[01:00 pm] gub : joeysta - what does this mean?
[01:00 pm] gub : tons of orders between 28.08-28.10 on HAL
[01:00 pm] Ed : stick around for few min gub, did not forget u
[01:00 pm] gub : ok
[01:00 pm] joeytsa : it means there are a lot of orders between those 2 prices
[01:01 pm] gub : yes but what is the meaning of this - will stock go up or down or nowhere.
[01:01 pm] joeytsa : if i knew that, i wouldnt be typing right now :)
[01:01 pm] joeytsa : just means there are a lot of orders
[01:02 pm] joeytsa : ES testing 1315..very nice day for bulls
[01:02 pm] gub : joeysta - you are funny man!
[01:02 pm] joeytsa : Thanks Mitch
[01:03 pm] gub : lol!
[01:03 pm] shark : thx Mitch!
[01:03 pm] gub : you the man Mitch!
[01:03 pm] gub : made good $ on a lot of your rec's today - spot on!
[01:04 pm] joeytsa : must have been terrible earnings
[01:05 pm] gub : what the h___'s going on with MW?
[01:05 pm] joeytsa : terrible earnings most likely
[01:05 pm] gub : never seen a drop so drastic.
[01:06 pm] joeytsa : or poor outlook
[01:06 pm] joeytsa : thats because you're new
[01:06 pm] gub : this would have ben a nice short.
[01:06 pm] joeytsa : wait until you see stocks drop 40-50 pts
[01:06 pm] gub : shut up girl!
[01:06 pm] gub : no way.
[01:06 pm] gub : have you?
[01:07 pm] joeytsa : yeah, and im not a girl
[01:07 pm] shark : 1.12 vs 1.22 est MW
[01:07 pm] shark : reaffirms outlook - MW
[01:07 pm] joeytsa : thx shark
[01:08 pm] shark : .53 vs .54 earnings
[01:08 pm] shark : 1.12 vs 1.22 for Q2
[01:08 pm] joeytsa : there ya go
[01:08 pm] Ed : therre she went
[01:08 pm] shark : reaffirms FY13 EPS
[01:08 pm] gub : funny expression - sorry.
[01:09 pm] joeytsa : no prob haha
[01:09 pm] joeytsa : just didnt want you to be confused
[01:09 pm] gub : I appreciate all your help joeytsa.
[01:09 pm] gub : You been very helpful to me.
[01:10 pm] joeytsa : no prob, always try to
[01:10 pm] gub : Your comments are all very good and informative too.
[01:10 pm] joeytsa : but learn from Ed :)
[01:10 pm] joeytsa : that way you can blame him for any losses haha
[01:10 pm] gub : LOL!
[01:10 pm] gub : good one!
[01:11 pm] gub : It's like golf - when you shoot a very good game and you think you got it- the next time you play it all goes away.
[01:12 pm] gub : You must be vigilant 24/7 in trading I can see that.
[01:13 pm] gub : cover all basis.
[01:13 pm] gub : leave nothing to chance - right?
[01:13 pm] joeytsa : just make sure you have stops set and you cant get hurt too bad
[01:13 pm] shark : make a plan, and work that plan
[01:14 pm] joeytsa : plan your work then work your plan
[01:14 pm] joeytsa : i like that shark
[01:14 pm] gub : Yes every trade ther is a target and stop auto set on my TS platform
[01:14 pm] shark : :)
[01:14 pm] shark : awesome, gub! ;)
[01:14 pm] joeytsa : gub: just make sure you give yourself room to profit
[01:15 pm] gub : I find trailing stops seem to knock me out of good trades too soon - you?
[01:15 pm] joeytsa : if you are shooting for 10cent gains, your stop has to be set too tight
[01:15 pm] gub : reg stops seem to work best for me - you?
[01:16 pm] joeytsa : its what you are most comfortable
[01:16 pm] gub : Today my share size was larger then normal and my profit target set smaller and I seemed to do much better.
[01:16 pm] gub : in AM especially.
[01:17 pm] joeytsa : dont overleverage...set realistic profit levels also
[01:17 pm] gub : TY
[01:17 pm] joeytsa : you took 13cents on that HAL trade...i took 55cents
[01:17 pm] gub : because you the man!!!
[01:17 pm] joeytsa : but i probably had a larger stop
[01:17 pm] gub : ahhhhh....
[01:18 pm] joeytsa : no, i just set bigger targets
[01:18 pm] joeytsa : i can give a 25cent stop loss if i am looking for 50cents...
[01:18 pm] gub : how many shares - I went with 1k
[01:18 pm] gub : I see
[01:18 pm] joeytsa : if you take 15cent profits, stoploss has to be set around 7cents..way too close
[01:19 pm] joeytsa : 1000
[01:19 pm] gub : si
[01:19 pm] joeytsa : didnt have time to change it
[01:19 pm] joeytsa : normally i trade less near the end of the day
[01:20 pm] Ed : less=more and more=less
[01:20 pm] joeytsa : but 2000 made sense also...lower priced and plenty of orders
[01:20 pm] joeytsa : all depends on your risk/size of account etc
[01:20 pm] gub : Ed - Ed : less=more and more=less
[01:21 pm] gub : ???
[01:21 pm] joeytsa : ok guys, i have to run....
[01:21 pm] gub : bigger lose's?
[01:21 pm] gub : by jo
[01:21 pm] joeytsa : Thanks Mitch, Ed, everyone
[01:21 pm] joeytsa : see you all in the morning
[01:22 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[01:22 pm] shark : bye joey!
[01:22 pm] shark : thx for guidance
[01:22 pm] joeytsa : shark: Kings go for the sweep tonight
[01:22 pm] joeytsa : you should go and try to get tix
[01:24 pm] gub : Thanks all!
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