Chat Highlights From 05/24/2012

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
[06:03 am] Ed : good morning traders
[06:13 am] Ed : potential plays (EXPE 46.5long, short44.30) (NFLX 72.80long, short 70.4) (WLT 52.20 long, short 49.30) (RHT 53.30 short, 55.60 long) (TPX 46.60 short, 48.60 long) (CRZO 24.60 short, 26.70 long) for breakout/breakdown must have convencing vol to take the prices entere
[06:14 am] Ed : advanced traders can play prior to entries once get signal
[06:28 am] Mitch K: just stay with the number of trades you can handle at once, whether it is 1 or more
[06:28 am] Mitch K: Try to be ready because most of the best ideas occur in the first hour
[06:28 am] Mitch K: It looks like we are going to have good trades both ways long and short.
[06:29 am] Mitch K: you want to think in terms of rifle shots as opposed to shotgun approach.
[06:32 am] Ed : monitoring LNKD for bottom be patient
[06:34 am] Ed : monitoring WRC for potential short be patient let it run some more
[06:34 am] Ed : monitoring SBAC for potentital short
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching INFA for bounce
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching CREE for bounce
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching CHKP for bounce
[06:40 am] Mitch K: healthcare sector moving up, watching AET for top to short
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching for short in SBAC soon, prefer 53 area
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching UNH for top to short
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching RHT for bottom to buy
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching KORS for bottom to buy
[06:41 am] Mitch K: CI is another healthcare running
[06:41 am] Mitch K: also watch healthcare stock HUM for top to short
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching WPRT for bottom to buy
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching GLNG for bottom to buy
[06:42 am] Mitch K: ROSG bullshort candidate soon, for experienced traders
[06:43 am] Mitch K: missed BRS bottom but watch for top to short
[06:44 am] Ed : reduce more LNKD long
[06:44 am] Mitch K: watching OVTI for bottom to buy
[06:44 am] Ed : reduce LNKD if u took long
[06:46 am] Mitch K: missed PAY bottom but watching for top to short
[06:48 am] Mitch K: consider selling 1/3rd of KORS Long; be flexible
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching UNH closer for short
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching WLP for short, another health care
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider covering half of HYUM short
[06:50 am] Mitch K: consider selling rest of IMPV long
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching CVLT for bottom to buy; low vol
[06:51 am] Mitch K: monitoring MNRO for top to short
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching VFC for topt o short
[06:51 am] Mitch K: monitoring PVH for top to short; take time
[06:52 am] Ed : if u took SBAC short consider covern some
[06:52 am] Ed : getting breakdown in SPY
[06:52 am] Mitch K: WPRT too weak to buy,
[06:53 am] Mitch K: watching PAY for another bottom, watching for 45 area
[06:53 am] Mitch K: watching FLO for top to short
[06:54 am] Ed : covern more SBAC short
[06:54 am] Mitch K: watching COH for bottom to buy
[06:55 am] Mitch K: watching WLP closer for top; still take longer
[06:55 am] Mitch K: prob forgot to post BBBY but look for 71.60 to cover if short
[06:55 am] Mitch K: looking for 141 area to cover VFC, be flexible
[06:57 am] Mitch K: watchign GDOT for top to short
[06:58 am] Mitch K: consider selling most of CHKP if long
[06:58 am] Mitch K: more downside on ABX; prefer bounce toward 40 first
[06:59 am] Mitch K: watching AET closer to cover soon
[06:59 am] Mitch K: watching VMW for bottom to buy
[07:00 am] Mitch K: watching KORS closer to sell remaining long
[07:00 am] Ed : getting bounce in SPY
[07:03 am] Mitch K: did i say i like MNRO short
[07:03 am] Mitch K: im a little late to see the top but still good
[07:03 am] Mitch K: MNRO toppy, good short
[07:04 am] Mitch K: cover BBBY if short
[07:04 am] Mitch K: looking for 68.25 area to cover WLP short
[07:06 am] Mitch K: monitoring EMC for bottom to buy
[07:07 am] Mitch K: looking for UNH to go under $56 to cover short
[07:07 am] Mitch K: little more downside on AET but cover soon, very soon
[07:08 am] Mitch K: still watching CVLT for bottom
[07:13 am] Mitch K: missed LULU bottom but watchign for a top to short, 2nd helping top
[07:15 am] Mitch K: consider selling most of KORS if long
[07:17 am] Mitch K: little more downside on WLP to cover short
[07:21 am] Mitch K: still watching COH for 2nd helping short, getting closer
[07:23 am] Mitch K: consider covering GDOT if short
[07:24 am] Mitch K: same with other health stocks like AET, UNH, HUM, CI
[07:24 am] Mitch K: WLP still ok to hold open but getting closer
[07:25 am] Mitch K: the healthcare stocks all stick together when trading with news
[07:27 am] Mitch K: i think what happens is i put up a chart, dont post it yet thinking i will come back to it and post when it gets better, then get distracted by many other stocks
[07:27 am] Mitch K: cant remember if i talked about BRS this morning, was a long and then a short. weird, i have it on my charts but dont see i posted. can you fire me yet
[07:28 am] Mitch K: i think it is more of a procedure problem rather than a mental health problem
[07:30 am] Mitch K: monitoring TEX for bottom, its a slow motion type of bottom
[07:31 am] Mitch K: lol, sure is weird talking about what kind of bottoms
[07:35 am] Mitch K: when you get such a steep fast drop like we had in the health care stocks you should watch for a bounce to go long
[07:36 am] Mitch K: UNH, CI and HUM look best. but keep watching AET and WLP too
[07:36 am] Mitch K: ok now what you do is watch for a short, a 2nd helping short
[07:38 am] Mitch K: SPY almost high of day
[07:49 am] Mitch K: HUM tends to be the fastest and earliest mover of the health care stocks
[08:23 am] Mitch K: lol, i tried to tell you in earlier [07:52 am] Mitch K: on the first big drop you can scalp it long." i just forgot to press CAPS LOCK
[07:52 am] Mitch K: on the first big drop you can scalp it long
[07:52 am] Mitch K: careful with ROSG, its what we call a runner
[07:53 am] Ed : getting pullback in SPY
[07:53 am] Mitch K: but it isnt giving drops, just trending up powering up
[07:54 am] Mitch K: anyone find it let me know
[07:54 am] Mitch K: dont have a float on ROSG but it must be low
[07:58 am] Mitch K: did you guys try getting shares of MNRO to short
[07:58 am] Mitch K: tell me you guys are short MNRO
[07:59 am] Mitch K: do you want to chat or do you want to make money?
[07:59 am] Mitch K: dont talk so much the first 90 minutes
[08:00 am] Mitch K: still more downside on MNRO but wouldnt open new short
[08:00 am] Mitch K: i understand victor, good man
[08:00 am] Mitch K: do you want ot make money or make friends, lol
[08:01 am] Mitch K: probably another 30 cents on it short, but there is a lot of weight on it now, its heavy so more downside
[08:02 am] Mitch K: i dont want to get into a habit of saying an idea is good or not but i did say twice that i liked MNRO short
[08:03 am] Mitch K: when i saw it on my screen the second time around 35.25 area, i made a noise.... "Oh man, thats a godo one, short MNRO"
[08:04 am] Mitch K: its hard to explain that, might be the 19 years of watching stocks
[08:04 am] Mitch K: i use that term heavy or has a lot of weight is because i think it is really good chance of more downside, and it hasnt shown any signs of bouncing recently
[08:07 am] Mitch K: ok guys, this ROSG is going to have some good drops at some point soon, and will give a good long scalp on FIRST BIG DROP
[08:07 am] Mitch K: ROSG really spiking
[08:07 am] Mitch K: this was under $4 2 days ago
[08:08 am] Mitch K: ROSG was $1.64 on may 15th, now 21.44
[08:09 am] Mitch K: let me explain this MNRO chart now
[08:10 am] Mitch K: it doesnt break down that much but it did go down to 35.50 from 35.60 so there is 3%
[08:10 am] Mitch K: ok, so it went up to 35.60 area, then peaked and when stocks or futures or commodities are on a hot run like that, doesnt matter what financial instrument it is, the initial breakdown is sort of what i call a battle betwen teh buyers and sellers and you get that volatility, zig zag in chart right
[08:11 am] Mitch K: there is room for making mistakes and still make good money right?
[08:11 am] Mitch K: what i liked about MNRO 1) it dropped from $37 to 32.70 this morning, 2) then bounced up from 32.75 area to 35.60. so you know there is good movement and chances of making money is good
[08:12 am] Mitch K: ok after the intial zig zag or that volatility, the buyers were exhausted and the sellers is what was remaining so thats why you see that pretty much straight down look
[08:15 am] Mitch K: so what you do is you watch that day trade chart go straight down right and the odds are when it stops going down and has a little bounce, that it should be a time to start covering, especially if it has had an extended drop like MNRO
[08:19 am] Mitch K: $5 drop from high
[08:19 am] Mitch K: i think its breaking down
[08:19 am] Mitch K: should sell off a little soon
[08:19 am] Mitch K: how did you guys do on that ROSG bounce
[08:20 am] Mitch K: anyone make money on that on that bouncve with ROSG
[08:20 am] Mitch K: so it has a series of moves with generally downtrend
[08:20 am] Mitch K: thats breaking down
[08:21 am] Mitch K: you guys made money on that bounce with ROSG? id sell
[08:21 am] Mitch K: yes victor the people who were into the money on ROSG are selling first, usually. the emotions go from greed to fear
[08:26 am] Mitch K: because the drops are smaller and smaller. the stock is getting back toward neutral for awhile
[08:26 am] Mitch K: jolliffboy, usually there is a lower low. it gets harder and lower odds to scalp ROSG long on a drop
[08:27 am] Mitch K: keep it small, if you get big early you can get really hurt
[08:27 am] Mitch K: if you guys can get ROSG shares to short, i would suggest you short some as a swing trade overnight for 2-3 days but it is critical you start really small position size, im not joking
[08:29 am] Mitch K: just made lower low than that first big drop
[08:29 am] Mitch K: jolliffboy, see what im talking about with ROSG
[08:30 am] Mitch K: ok ROSG is going to give another long bounce fairly soon
[08:31 am] Mitch K: well, the short signal was 11 minutes ago, lol
[08:31 am] Mitch K: all right, i will try to give you a buy signal on ROSG
[08:31 am] Mitch K: soon on this stock means around 16.50 area
[08:32 am] Mitch K: too late to buy under bid
[08:32 am] Mitch K: by about
[08:32 am] Mitch K: ok there is an early buy signal on ROSG here, try limit order under bid
[08:33 am] Mitch K: now look for just over 19 on ROSG, be flexible as a rubber band
[08:34 am] Mitch K: post your entry price on last long with ROSG
[08:34 am] Mitch K: could hit 19.50 but dont count on it
[08:34 am] Mitch K: ok try limit orders now on ask price on ROSG
[08:35 am] Mitch K: ok thats good eddy, that works
[08:35 am] Mitch K: ROSG doesnt have much life left
[08:35 am] Mitch K: ROSG might have another breath up and then turns over again
[08:35 am] Mitch K: better hurry
[08:35 am] Mitch K: better enter limit order to sell first
[08:36 am] Mitch K: you guys promise not to touch this ROSG?
[08:36 am] Mitch K: has to go to 16 now
[08:36 am] Mitch K: ok, now please, dont touch ROSG for awhile, long while
[08:36 am] Mitch K: that was a good entry on long
[08:36 am] Mitch K: you use a market order to sell eddy?
[08:37 am] Mitch K: ok eddy, you did a market order long and market order selling long on this last ROSG
[08:37 am] Mitch K: if you think you can trade ROSG now, i suggest you give money to an orphanage first
[08:38 am] Mitch K: well eddy, most new traders are panicky and greedy at same time, so they just click market
[08:38 am] Mitch K: oh ok great, good job because that is a big spread to give up 20-25 cents each way
[08:39 am] Mitch K: just a sec
[08:39 am] Mitch K: ok listen to this. life lesson here, dont forget. a stock like this, and many others we see in morning ...... are like a bouncing ball
[08:41 am] Mitch K: when you drop a tennis ball from let's say, 6' height and you dont touch it. it bounces lower and lower and lower until no energy left right?
[08:42 am] Mitch K: you dont want to be chasing for smaller and smaller profit potential on the subsequent bounces. by the 3rd bounce, just forget it, not enough money in it
[08:43 am] Mitch K: i mean thats our problem we face, everyday
[08:43 am] Mitch K: so the problem we all have and i mean ALL OF US, is the emotional control or discipline to not go after marginal ideas and stick with the good ideas.
[08:45 am] Mitch K: so what i do now after doing well on a stock like ROSG, i get up, jump around a little, jump rope, walk around, bathroom break and then i look for something else. i dont get fixated on ROSG
[08:46 am] Mitch K: cdougan, ive heard other similar analogies
[08:46 am] Mitch K: cdougan that is very true
[08:47 am] Mitch K: the greatest trader of all time said in his book "the hardest part in trading is the waiting"
[08:48 am] Mitch K: buy this book and read it twice, get two highlighters because one wont be enough
[08:48 am] Mitch K: http://www.amazon.com/Reminiscences-Stock-Ope rator-Investment-Classics/dp/0471770884/ref=s r_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337874472&a mp;sr=8-1-spell
[08:49 am] Mitch K: yes it is on kindle too
[08:49 am] Mitch K: and this guy started trading in 1887 through 1940
[08:50 am] Mitch K: i try to think how we can communicate better ideas, what tools you need, what i would want as a newer trader, investor
[08:50 am] Mitch K: in a good way
[08:50 am] Mitch K: i actually think about you guys a lot
[08:51 am] Mitch K: hey eddy jollif, see ROSG? it is just flailing around doing nothing but start watching it is taking new downleg here
[08:52 am] Mitch K: well joey, i havent shot myself yet, he committed suicide i think around 1940
[08:53 am] Mitch K: weak early buy signal on ROSG
[08:53 am] Mitch K: he had a lot of problems with women, his kids,
[08:56 am] Mitch K: ok good idea mhaus
[09:01 am] Ed : SPY trading at lows of day
[09:03 am] Ed : report Chinese banks will fall short on there lending
[09:08 am] Ed : SPY lod
[09:14 am] Mitch K: like right here is sells ignal
[09:14 am] Mitch K: if you went long ROSG again watch for sell signal soon
[09:16 am] Mitch K: great job doji man
[09:31 am] Mitch K: watching SIG for bottom to buy
[09:46 am] Ed : getting slight bounce in SPY
[09:55 am] Ed : wrong screen
[09:55 am] Ed : pssi
[09:55 am] Ed : getting pullback in SPY
[10:01 am] Ed : SPY trading in tight range
[10:22 am] Mitch K: watching ROSG dropping
[10:23 am] Mitch K: should have a bounce, try near 16.10 area
[10:23 am] Mitch K: might not make it that low now
[10:23 am] Mitch K: hit 15.83
[10:24 am] Mitch K: we are talking ROSG
[10:24 am] Mitch K: dont get too excited, just wait
[10:25 am] Mitch K: not acting great
[10:26 am] Mitch K: look at daily chart to remind you where this came from
[10:26 am] Mitch K: remember was 1.64 a week ago, lot of selling pressure on this.
[10:26 am] Mitch K: i think forget this long scalp, too much effort for the risk
[10:30 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[10:56 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[11:00 am] Ed : more selling in markets
[11:03 am] Ed : watching ESL for another short opportunity missed 1st
[11:05 am] Ed : would prefer another push near hod, or lower high
[11:14 am] Ed : if u took ESL short would cover
[11:40 am] Ed : more selling in SPY
[11:43 am] Ed : if u took NFLX would cover some here
[11:54 am] Ed : thx Mike for CHK
[12:11 pm] Ed : gettin moe selling
[12:26 pm] Ed : getting som ebuying in SPY
[06:13 am] ogking : GM Traders
[06:13 am] joeytsa : TIF got rocked
[06:14 am] joeytsa : thank you Ed for your list
[06:14 am] apple : gm og
[06:14 am] apple : thx for the playlist E
[06:14 am] lisas : Thanks Ed
[06:15 am] ogking : GM, Apple
[06:16 am] joeytsa : WMT has been strong..right around 12yr highs
[06:16 am] joeytsa : guess that means all the people who bought in 2000 can finally break even :)
[06:17 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, i'm finally going to dump those shares.
[06:17 am] joeytsa : that should sent it to $80 then haha
[06:17 am] mikewd2 -: only seems like 10 years
[06:17 am] joeytsa : haha
[06:18 am] joeytsa : that was the basis for me liking 52wk highs
[06:18 am] hportofino19 : gm
[06:18 am] skydiver : gm all
[06:18 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, that works
[06:20 am] eddy : hello all
[06:22 am] apple : gm sky
[06:22 am] apple : gm eddy
[06:23 am] apple : gm hp
[06:23 am] eddy : hi apple
[06:23 am] skydiver : gm apple
[06:23 am] apple : on the radio they mentioned some poor woman who bought 3,000 sh of FB and now is down 30K...
[06:24 am] mikewd2 -: gambled and lost!
[06:25 am] joeytsa : idi_t i'd l ike to buy a vowel
[06:25 am] gub : hey!
[06:25 am] joeytsa : wasnt bad that she bought, it was bad she didnt sell
[06:25 am] khall : yup
[06:25 am] gub : I will try and do my best to do things right today!
[06:25 am] mikewd2 -: yeah when up 4.50
[06:25 am] Ed : flip side is that if price were at 60, she would think she is genuis
[06:26 am] apple : right
[06:26 am] joeytsa : right, and have a talk show on cnbc
[06:26 am] skydiver : right on joey :)
[06:26 am] Ed : cant spell today
[06:26 am] joeytsa : putz hahaha
[06:26 am] apple : we still understand you, tho
[06:26 am] Ed : puts putts putz
[06:26 am] joeytsa : :)
[06:26 am] apple : lol
[06:26 am] joeytsa : thats called Edbonics
[06:26 am] apple : haha
[06:27 am] qwert : haha
[06:27 am] Ed : :)
[06:27 am] joeytsa : did they say where that lady bought FB?
[06:27 am] apple : no
[06:28 am] apple : gm MK - sounds good
[06:28 am] joeytsa : she'll hold it until she breaks even
[06:28 am] skydiver : thnx mitch
[06:28 am] joeytsa : thank you Mitch
[06:28 am] hportofino19 : yeah!
[06:28 am] apple : probably
[06:29 am] hportofino19 : 2
[06:29 am] hportofino19 : good analogy
[06:29 am] doji : I'll just watch today guys... have a very busy day today...
[06:30 am] scalpman : NTAP Watching
[06:31 am] ogking : Air Line Index $AXGAL Benefiting from lower oil $
[06:31 am] skydiver : ROSG - nice jump
[06:32 am] joeytsa : LNKD testing $100
[06:32 am] skydiver : watching LNKD witih you joey
[06:32 am] skydiver : FB bouncing up
[06:33 am] mikewd2 -: out NTAP L -+0.50
[06:33 am] skydiver : all out of RSG L
[06:33 am] shark : KORS quick 2% drop
[06:33 am] apple : gm shark
[06:34 am] shark : touching support from yesterday
[06:34 am] shark : hi apple :)
[06:35 am] shark : watching P
[06:35 am] skydiver : L LNKD 99.12
[06:35 am] joeytsa : ROSG has been on fire
[06:37 am] scalpman : NTAP L @ 28.72
[06:38 am] doji : Test
[06:38 am] joeytsa : i see you doji
[06:39 am] shark : see if SPY holds be
[06:39 am] skydiver : stopped out of LNKD L -will watch for another oppoprtunity
[06:41 am] joeytsa : lots of great pullbacks
[06:41 am] shark : capital hill meetings on healthcare today
[06:41 am] joeytsa : thx shark
[06:41 am] apple : nice drop in AAPL
[06:41 am] shark : nice apple, AAPL
[06:42 am] shark : KORS S1 support test
[06:42 am] joeytsa : AAPL,BIDU,CRM,GOOG all nice pullbacks
[06:43 am] joeytsa : GS trying to hold $97
[06:44 am] skydiver : P - nice v pattern
[06:44 am] mikewd2 -: LNDK moving now
[06:45 am] skydiver : yes - hated to post, but jumjped in again at 98.89
[06:45 am] skydiver : LNDK
[06:45 am] scalpman : OUt another 1/4 NTAP L
[06:45 am] skydiver : out 1/2 LNKD L
[06:45 am] scalpman : NTAP stopp 28.99
[06:45 am] skydiver : moving stop up to BE on NTAP
[06:45 am] shark : nice sky
[06:45 am] shark : touch and go for a sec.
[06:45 am] apple : smart sky
[06:45 am] skydiver : yeah
[06:45 am] scalpman : good sky
[06:46 am] mikewd2 -: stoppedl on LNKD +100
[06:46 am] mikewd2 -: 1.00
[06:46 am] joeytsa : VFC might get toppy
[06:46 am] shark : SPY testing lod
[06:46 am] apple : mike i like the +100!
[06:47 am] mikewd2 -: stopped at 100.
[06:47 am] shark : KORS lod
[06:47 am] apple : yeah
[06:47 am] skydiver : all out of P L
[06:47 am] scalpman : alla aout NTAP
[06:47 am] joeytsa : nice on P sky, wanted the short at the open, couldnt get it
[06:48 am] shark : ugh!
[06:48 am] mikewd2 -: nice P, i got out of P to early
[06:48 am] shark : nice call, joey
[06:48 am] skydiver : thnx joey
[06:48 am] shark : LULU new lod
[06:48 am] shark : PCLN 666.66
[06:48 am] apple : scary
[06:48 am] joeytsa : most bounces have been to lower highs
[06:50 am] apple : really lower highs
[06:50 am] joeytsa : CRM dbl bottom, looks a bit weak
[06:50 am] shark : :)
[06:50 am] shark : punchbowl of death patterns -CRM, LNKD
[06:50 am] apple : lol
[06:51 am] shark : KORS breaking over 10min ma
[06:52 am] skydiver : stopped out of last 1/4 of LNKD at BE
[06:52 am] shark : wow, sky
[06:52 am] shark : wild one, today
[06:52 am] skydiver : yeah shark
[06:53 am] joeytsa : very interesting market action past couple of days
[06:53 am] skydiver : double bottom on LNKD
[06:53 am] joeytsa : GS still trying to bottom
[06:53 am] scalpman : VFC S @ 142.82
[06:53 am] scalpman : OuT 1/2
[06:53 am] skydiver : looking at CRM to see where it is at
[06:53 am] scalpman : vfc
[06:54 am] joeytsa : trying to hold $147 sky
[06:54 am] skydiver : yeah I see that joey -- thnx - looks a bit weak
[06:54 am] joeytsa : plenty a room to fall
[06:55 am] skydiver : agreed on that - CRM
[06:55 am] scalpman : ALL out VFC
[06:55 am] joeytsa : great trade scalp
[06:55 am] apple : good job scalp
[06:56 am] skydiver : nice one scalp!! VFC
[06:57 am] scalpman : Waiting for GDOT
[06:58 am] apple : of course!
[06:58 am] joeytsa : slight upmove here
[06:58 am] joeytsa : see if it sustains, or another short opp
[06:59 am] scalpman : CVLT could be good if market turns up
[06:59 am] scalpman : ...stating the obvious
[06:59 am] shark : haha
[06:59 am] joeytsa : obvious is good :)
[06:59 am] shark : SPY DIA turning up!
[06:59 am] apple : lol
[06:59 am] apple : haha
[07:00 am] shark : watch for bounce in KORS
[07:00 am] scalpman : SPY moving slightly up
[07:01 am] apple : fyi - about 40 ideas so far...
[07:01 am] joeytsa : VMW ugly so far
[07:03 am] joeytsa : US durable goods down, contruction slump in europe and china factory activity down for the 7th straight month
[07:03 am] skydiver : thnx joey
[07:04 am] shark : any govt data today, joey?
[07:04 am] scalpman : SPY holding @ 132
[07:04 am] skydiver : JOY dropped nicely - but forgot to keep an eye on it
[07:04 am] joeytsa : nat gas @ 7:30pst i think, gietner talks at noon pst
[07:05 am] shark : Higher LOWS on PCLN, GOOG, AAPL
[07:05 am] shark : has worked last week or so
[07:05 am] shark : to long side
[07:05 am] joeytsa : sure has, good catch
[07:07 am] joeytsa : FFIV a dog so far
[07:07 am] shark : FFIV some support at S3, testinng
[07:07 am] apple : nice big drop
[07:08 am] shark : KORS over 10min
[07:08 am] shark : some support at 40.25 area
[07:11 am] joeytsa : watching AMZN to see if it tests $214 again
[07:12 am] skydiver : watching KORS FFIV LNKD with patience
[07:12 am] shark : ;)
[07:12 am] joeytsa : :)
[07:12 am] skydiver : ready to pounce :)
[07:13 am] apple : AMZN AAPL charts similar both moving up after double top 1 min
[07:13 am] joeytsa : yeah there are a few taht look like they want to go somewhere
[07:13 am] shark : P hod
[07:13 am] joeytsa : ROSG testing hod
[07:13 am] shark : KORS long 40.36
[07:14 am] joeytsa : P was nice, i took it off the radar when i missed the short, oh well
[07:14 am] shark : oh man
[07:14 am] joeytsa : worked out ROSG was better $
[07:15 am] scalpman : QQQ dropping (CVLT)
[07:15 am] joeytsa : GS lod
[07:16 am] apple : watching CTXS
[07:17 am] joeytsa : quick move on the ES up
[07:18 am] joeytsa : LULU back to prev cl
[07:18 am] shark : :)
[07:19 am] joeytsa : AMZN triple bottom @ $214
[07:19 am] joeytsa : been bouncing between 214-215
[07:20 am] shark : out all KORS 40.55
[07:20 am] skydiver : SPY jovering around vwap on one minute chart
[07:20 am] skydiver : hovering
[07:21 am] eddy : stopped on ffiv
[07:21 am] apple : hey, doji, LEN down today and dropping
[07:22 am] shark : stocks not running up as much off the low as prev. days
[07:22 am] apple : i see that too shark
[07:22 am] skydiver : yeah shark
[07:22 am] eddy : bounces weak
[07:22 am] shark : yeah
[07:25 am] shark : KORS lod retest
[07:25 am] qwert : nice call on UNH mitch thx
[07:27 am] jsn13 : qwert what was ur entry for UNH?
[07:27 am] jsn13 : as in what time and price?
[07:27 am] skydiver : fire Mitch ? NO WAY!!! :)
[07:27 am] qwert : cmon mitch only like 50 ideas today
[07:28 am] qwert : :))
[07:28 am] joeytsa : haha
[07:28 am] qwert : lol
[07:28 am] eddy : joey
[07:29 am] eddy : i got that chart slider on sse
[07:29 am] apple : MK, BRS was mentioned earlier this morning
[07:29 am] eddy : no issues thx
[07:29 am] joeytsa : good to hear eddy, how did you find it?
[07:29 am] eddy : i was using it all the time
[07:29 am] skydiver : CRM making a slow u climb
[07:29 am] eddy : it is a vertical thing
[07:30 am] joeytsa : oh ok, so it was there, you just couldnt see it?
[07:30 am] eddy : i thought you were talking about one that is horiziontal
[07:30 am] eddy : it is a slider on the ptice area right?
[07:30 am] eddy : price
[07:30 am] shark : nice move CRM, you catch it sky?
[07:30 am] joeytsa : no, mine is underneatth the calendar
[07:31 am] joeytsa : nat gas #'s out
[07:31 am] apple : you are funny MK
[07:31 am] qwert : personally like a nice round bottom :)
[07:31 am] skydiver : I didn't post it due to low volume - but yeah -- $147.73 L CRM
[07:31 am] shark : ok, great
[07:31 am] skydiver : kind of a "gut" sense about it --
[07:32 am] shark : :)
[07:32 am] apple : CRM is your stock sky
[07:32 am] skydiver : :)
[07:32 am] eddy : missed wlt bounce grrrrrr
[07:33 am] apple : it had crossed vwap at that point
[07:33 am] shark : KORS nice pop
[07:33 am] apple : take it easy eddy
[07:33 am] shark : KORS long 40.39 -2nd time
[07:33 am] skydiver : out 3/4 CRM L
[07:34 am] eddy : k apple :)
[07:34 am] skydiver : nice shark on KORS
[07:34 am] apple : good job sky
[07:34 am] joeytsa : CRM was nice :)
[07:34 am] skydiver : all out of CRM L
[07:36 am] joeytsa : ES testing hod
[07:36 am] scalpman : CVLT not helped in QQQ bounce
[07:39 am] eyes : Ed on SBAC would you have entered s after the doji 9:35 candle
[07:39 am] Ed : no, it was too close to vwap
[07:41 am] jsn13 : Ed, how did u handle LNKD? i
[07:41 am] doji : Back for 1 hour I hope
[07:42 am] doji : How was the trade in the last 1 hour?
[07:43 am] skydiver : FIRE came up nicely today
[07:44 am] apple : nice one on FIRE
[07:44 am] apple : eyes, how is your father doing
[07:44 am] Ed : traded it 2x in and out 9:35, and 2nd time 9:41
[07:45 am] jsn13 : how did u know that u had to be out early at 9.35?
[07:45 am] Ed : est
[07:46 am] Ed : just feeling I get,comes from gut feeling, that experiences have created
[07:46 am] Ed : culmination
[07:47 am] apple : i like your style, E
[07:47 am] eddy : ed wat do u think of ffiv
[07:47 am] jsn13 : no prob...got it...will train my that feeling.....
[07:47 am] eddy : does not seem to find the bottom
[07:47 am] eyes : so you didnt wait for first candle to confirm
[07:48 am] jsn13 : Ed, so what was ur entry and exit?
[07:48 am] Ed : I wait for signal entry, but if in stock and does not feel right I dont wait around
[07:49 am] jsn13 : i mean for the 1st entry in LNKD...
[07:49 am] eyes : i thought signal candle was 9:36
[07:49 am] Ed : 9:34
[07:49 am] doji : Trading is an art definetely
[07:50 am] doji : Need to learn how to paint now
[07:50 am] Ed : truly is doji, thats why u have to work it at times in and out, out and in
[07:50 am] jsn13 : Ed, may i knwo ur entry and exit at the 9.35 bar for LNKD?
[07:51 am] victor51 : Thanks Ed for SBAC and WRC. It started my day with +ve feeling
[07:51 am] Ed : will look it up shortly
[07:52 am] victor51 : Mitch, Health care shorts were great. I had 4 stocks in a group and thanks for short
[07:52 am] skydiver : out 3/4 FIRE L
[07:52 am] jsn13 : hi skydiver, where is entry for FIRE?
[07:52 am] skydiver : all out of FIRE L
[07:53 am] joeytsa : sky, great job on FIRE !
[07:53 am] eddy : well done sky
[07:53 am] eyes : So According to my Chart the 9:34 Candle is red
[07:53 am] apple : you are hot, sky!
[07:54 am] khall : great job sky - I had FIRE on my screen but missed it!
[07:54 am] joeytsa : eyes: on LNKD, mine is green
[07:55 am] qwert : my 9:34 candle is green on lnkd as well
[07:56 am] Ed : .51 entry exit .63 thas 4 u jsn
[07:57 am] jsn13 : thanks ed.....
[07:57 am] skydiver : Sorry jsn missed your question - thnx Ed :)
[07:57 am] Ed : no problem
[07:58 am] skydiver : I'm not the expert -- we'll bow down to Ed and Mitch and joey and and and :)
[07:58 am] Ed : too funny sky
[07:58 am] joeytsa : take my name off that list haha
[07:58 am] doji : Nooooooooo
[07:58 am] apple : lol
[07:58 am] lisas : n
[07:58 am] qwert : you bet mk lovin the mnro short
[07:58 am] lisas : n
[07:58 am] skydiver : 20 lashes for me Mitch - too busy chatting -
[07:58 am] khall : n
[07:59 am] qwert : have em at lightspeed
[07:59 am] skydiver : and I have lightspeed qwert -
[07:59 am] skydiver : thnx for reminder Mitch
[07:59 am] skydiver : make moneyh
[08:00 am] doji : Friends!
[08:00 am] gub : both!
[08:00 am] victor51 : itch, left little early onMNRO.It was question of managing five winning horses
[08:00 am] gub : I shorted and made $ on mnro
[08:00 am] go4it : mnro
[08:02 am] qwert : Mitch can you explain what you mean by a lot of weight on it now?
[08:04 am] ogking : Just Notified:New Tradestation Release: OH GOD!
[08:04 am] qwert : thx mitch
[08:04 am] Ed : i never download new releases
[08:04 am] Mitch K: me neither, i wait a long time after its out
[08:05 am] apple : thx MK
[08:05 am] Mitch K: and then i look at blogs to see if people are having problems
[08:05 am] ogking : Thank you wise men!
[08:05 am] joeytsa : its a good term Mitch
[08:05 am] Mitch K: and then i ask Ed how it is working
[08:05 am] joeytsa : hahah
[08:05 am] qwert : haha
[08:05 am] Ed : lol
[08:05 am] skydiver : lol :)
[08:05 am] joeytsa : like buying a new car model
[08:05 am] apple : latest gadgets...
[08:05 am] Mitch K: and then i ask if he is makign money with it
[08:06 am] skydiver : argh - time is up -- see you all maybe toward close today, if not, see you in the morning -- ended day in green :) Keeps the Irish wife happy :)
[08:06 am] Mitch K: and when Ed doesnt answer that question or doesnt return my calls then i know he is into the money
[08:06 am] joeytsa : ROSG over $20
[08:06 am] Ed : c ya sky
[08:07 am] joeytsa : bye sky
[08:07 am] qwert : ROSG new hod next res 20.50 area
[08:07 am] apple : have fun sky
[08:07 am] eddy : bye sky
[08:07 am] joeytsa : no resistance
[08:08 am] joeytsa : didnt realize they were over $100 at one time
[08:08 am] Ed : try 580
[08:08 am] apple : it was up yesterday joey, i was amazed...
[08:08 am] joeytsa : i noticed them last friday
[08:08 am] khall : wow
[08:08 am] apple : the chart on the daily
[08:08 am] doji : Wow ROSG
[08:09 am] joeytsa : just ride it up
[08:09 am] doji : It was 0.13 cents on January 1st!
[08:09 am] apple : amazing
[08:09 am] doji : 200X
[08:09 am] victor51 : Mitch, what did you see in MONRO that it will drop so much with light volume over 1 hour?
[08:09 am] joeytsa : just trail it up
[08:10 am] jolliffboy : Anybody know why ROSG is taking off?
[08:10 am] apple : it's not listed on finviz -- trying to find the float
[08:10 am] scalpman : NO shorts on ROSG
[08:11 am] joeytsa : keep trailing up
[08:11 am] apple : we hear you joey
[08:11 am] qwert : none at lightspeed ROSG
[08:11 am] doji : 1 share at 22.89 long... hahah
[08:11 am] joeytsa : stopped finally
[08:11 am] apple : whew
[08:11 am] qwert : listening mitch
[08:11 am] apple : yes
[08:12 am] qwert : big drop rosg
[08:12 am] khall : no shorts at IB for ROSG
[08:12 am] scalpman : .25 cent spread on ROSG
[08:12 am] joeytsa : let it come back to a buy arean
[08:13 am] apple : agree
[08:13 am] joeytsa : yeah scalp, to volatile to cut
[08:14 am] eddy : now we need to hit the right entry level long
[08:15 am] joeytsa : i havent seen any news for ROSG either
[08:15 am] jolliffboy : ROSG -bailing like rats on a sinking ship.
[08:15 am] doji : Did you ride ROSG Joey?
[08:15 am] joeytsa : oh yeah
[08:15 am] joeytsa : ready for the next ride too
[08:15 am] jsn13 : Mitch, which bar is ur entry for MNRO short?
[08:15 am] apple : trailing joey
[08:16 am] doji : Did you call it in the room Joey?
[08:16 am] joeytsa : doji: took it @ 17.50
[08:16 am] joeytsa : no
[08:16 am] doji : ?
[08:16 am] apple : nice joey
[08:17 am] Ed : sweeeeeeetness
[08:17 am] joeytsa : it was a stock that had been mentioned a few times though
[08:17 am] apple : joey only has 2 hands and 20 monitors...
[08:17 am] joeytsa : stopped me at 23
[08:17 am] joeytsa : sorry, 22
[08:17 am] joeytsa : i let a lot of profit slip, took a chance since i was up
[08:17 am] apple : it was mentioned early this morning
[08:18 am] doji : so you took it at the breakout...
[08:18 am] apple : hey joey, you did damn good
[08:18 am] doji : good trade
[08:18 am] joeytsa : breakout and then it held the 5ma
[08:19 am] joeytsa : on that very small pullback to the 5ma
[08:19 am] apple : it did and very well too!
[08:19 am] joeytsa : 7:56 bar
[08:19 am] joeytsa : nice Mitch
[08:19 am] victor51 : Mitch, thanks, Do you think people who bought around 6:45 were selling for the past hour and prices kept falling for the past hour or so
[08:19 am] scalpman : Somebody bought 1 share on ROSG L
[08:20 am] scalpman : Was that you apple
[08:20 am] Ed : our charts are similar eyes, signal was 5th candle from open
[08:20 am] joeytsa : ROSG needs to hold $20 for next leg up
[08:21 am] doji : Meeeeeee....
[08:21 am] cdougan : I got it at 19.61 and stopped out at 20.40
[08:21 am] eyes : thanks
[08:21 am] eddy : i did not trade it
[08:21 am] apple : yes scalp
[08:21 am] eddy : it is a non marginable security
[08:21 am] apple : thx MK
[08:22 am] eddy : got a good faith penalty from schabb
[08:22 am] doji : so it it drops down to 0.13, my lossed will be $22.43
[08:22 am] doji : if
[08:22 am] joeytsa : not too bad doji :)
[08:22 am] jsn13 : Ed, did u catch that long on ROSG?
[08:22 am] scalpman : CVLT gap up
[08:23 am] doji : I'll keep it in my account until it reaches 100...
[08:23 am] joeytsa : 3 trades on ROSG today
[08:23 am] jolliffboy : Mitch: Any experience guesses where ROSG will bottom before next up trend???
[08:23 am] Ed : yes on blue line drawn on chart
[08:24 am] jsn13 : Ed, entry price? and stop?
[08:24 am] joeytsa : yeah Mitch, you need to use that caps lock button :)
[08:24 am] joeytsa : nice entry Ed
[08:24 am] Ed : breakout both times
[08:25 am] cdougan : lnkd bounced off 97.
[08:26 am] joeytsa : yeah cdoug, right in that area
[08:26 am] joeytsa : support at 97.10
[08:27 am] Ed : thx joey
[08:27 am] scalpman : Sorry but I don't see any Mention of ROSG at the open for about an hour...where did I miss this?
[08:27 am] apple : 1 share
[08:27 am] joeytsa : i missed it, so took a chance that it would give me an entry without chasing
[08:27 am] Ed : i mnetioned yesterday to have it up for today
[08:28 am] scalpman : Ah...
[08:28 am] doji : I'll turn my 1 share to short
[08:28 am] joeytsa : yeah, and sky posted at 6:31
[08:29 am] apple : 6:31 skydiver: ROSG - nice jump
[08:29 am] apple : scalp - that's when ROSG was mentioned
[08:29 am] scalpman : Yes ...I see now...I was focused on NTAP and missed the comment.
[08:29 am] scalpman : mea culpa
[08:29 am] cdougan : Joey - would that be a decending triangle? or is that too short term of a time frame for that pattern? On LNKD
[08:30 am] joeytsa : i guess it depends on how big your chart is?
[08:31 am] joeytsa : i get different patterns if the chart is fullscreen or half-screen etc
[08:31 am] cdougan : i see
[08:31 am] joeytsa : LNKD looks weak to me though
[08:31 am] eddy : thx mitch
[08:31 am] apple : agree
[08:32 am] joeytsa : trading under prev low, and just made a lower high
[08:32 am] scalpman : FAZ slow up move maybe
[08:32 am] joeytsa : i cant short ROSG
[08:32 am] cdougan : I see.
[08:32 am] scalpman : not so slow
[08:32 am] joeytsa : sorry it wasnt the best answer to your question though
[08:32 am] scalpman : FAZ
[08:32 am] scalpman : FAZ
[08:32 am] doji : Drop in SPY
[08:33 am] joeytsa : europ closing?
[08:33 am] scalpman : FAZ L @ 26.78
[08:33 am] apple : nice dbl bottom on FAZ
[08:34 am] lisas : thanks mitch!
[08:35 am] joeytsa : not in this one
[08:35 am] lisas : in 18.23, out 18.96
[08:35 am] khall : ROSG in 18.66 out 19.14
[08:35 am] apple : nice khall
[08:35 am] eddy : rosg l 18.30 out 19.03
[08:35 am] khall : happy with that trade!
[08:35 am] joeytsa : nice khall,lisa,eddy
[08:35 am] apple : nice eddy
[08:36 am] apple : nice lisa
[08:36 am] eddy : ya was a gd one
[08:36 am] khall : thanks Mitch for the guidance
[08:36 am] lisas : fun when they move so quick, as long as it's in the right way!
[08:36 am] eddy : thx Mithn ..
[08:36 am] khall : yep
[08:36 am] eddy : no limit
[08:36 am] eddy : k
[08:36 am] scalpman : Frist target FAZ L 27.04
[08:36 am] apple : thx MK... we hear you
[08:37 am] lisas : yes
[08:37 am] khall : yes
[08:37 am] khall : I don't want to give back my profit
[08:37 am] qwert : yep
[08:37 am] eddy : yes no more rosg
[08:37 am] cdougan : ha
[08:37 am] eddy : got it mitch
[08:37 am] joeytsa : so you are saying i should buy now :)
[08:37 am] eddy : it was hard enough like this
[08:38 am] eddy : no
[08:38 am] eddy : i dit limit on both in and out
[08:38 am] eddy : why wud u think i did market
[08:38 am] eddy : im scared
[08:38 am] apple : haha
[08:38 am] eddy : in entry nd exit
[08:38 am] apple : don't be scared eddy
[08:38 am] qwert : lol
[08:38 am] eddy : to be truly honnest
[08:38 am] joeytsa : we're gunning for your stops haha
[08:38 am] Ed : he saw ur entyr/exit
[08:39 am] apple : that was a quick trade eddy and you did good
[08:39 am] scalpman : OUt 1/2 FAZ
[08:39 am] joeytsa : yeah eddy, you did really good
[08:39 am] eddy : i am both yet click limit
[08:39 am] eddy : we
[08:39 am] eddy : weird
[08:39 am] Ed : nice trade eddy
[08:39 am] eddy : thx
[08:41 am] joeytsa : ALXN nice steady climb
[08:41 am] joeytsa : they were a mover from yesterday also
[08:41 am] qwert : yep
[08:41 am] apple : y
[08:41 am] eddy : right
[08:42 am] scalpman : I didn't realize FAZ was an index 3x Bear on Financials...oh well.
[08:42 am] joeytsa : yeah scalp
[08:42 am] apple : now you know... FAS is bull
[08:42 am] scalpman : Well it seemed to move....yeah like TNA TZA
[08:42 am] eddy : ok mitch we r done with rosg
[08:43 am] apple : we like the first bounce...
[08:43 am] apple : agree MK
[08:43 am] joeytsa : still keeping an eye on it for later
[08:43 am] scalpman : I will stop FAZ @ 28.80 b.e.
[08:43 am] Ed : oh jsn earlier entries on ROSG 10:51 est 16.61 after breakout from consolidation, then 11:01 est 18.01 another breakout and base on top of base
[08:43 am] scalpman : sorry 26.80
[08:44 am] Ed : agreed Mitch
[08:44 am] scalpman : Target 27.02 FAZ L
[08:44 am] joeytsa : amen Mitch
[08:45 am] cdougan : It's funny... the slower the day is the better the "marginal" ideas look.
[08:45 am] scalpman : Out another 3/10 on FAZ L
[08:45 am] apple : great advice
[08:45 am] Ed : nice going scalp
[08:45 am] joeytsa : yeah cdoug..its a trap haha
[08:45 am] apple : good job scalp!
[08:46 am] scalpman : Will trail last piece...thanks apple
[08:46 am] scalpman : Or I could go to 10ths
[08:46 am] scalpman : ha
[08:46 am] joeytsa : haha
[08:46 am] scalpman : Pattern on FAZ...is that Rounded V..
[08:46 am] jsn13 : thanks ed...so at that 11.15 ish u did not trade?
[08:46 am] apple : big double top there on AAPL
[08:47 am] cdougan : I've just notced it myeslf only doing this as a novice. It's hard to do nothing
[08:47 am] scalpman : with 5 ema crossing 15 ema
[08:47 am] scalpman : That first dip is a retrace and then higher highs.
[08:47 am] scalpman : I took profit, but the pattern said wait.
[08:47 am] joeytsa : yeah Mitch..and this mid-day time can be brutal that wy
[08:47 am] joeytsa : way
[08:48 am] apple : cd - you are always doing something, scanning or looking at charts which is all a part of trading. wait for the good ones
[08:48 am] Ed : yes i did 2 other times
[08:48 am] jsn13 : can i have the time for the other 2 entries? did not see propoerly juz now...
[08:48 am] doji : I work between trades
[08:49 am] apple : haha doji
[08:49 am] scalpman : Mitch is it a e-book too.
[08:49 am] lisas : Great book, should listen again (I have audible version)
[08:49 am] Ed : read 5 times
[08:49 am] cdougan : I will pick it up. Thanks Mitch. Very much appreaciated.
[08:50 am] lisas : :)
[08:50 am] apple : nice
[08:50 am] apple : ditto
[08:50 am] eyes : I think i Will take mine + 9 i made today and go bye it
[08:51 am] joeytsa : Mitch: i have listened to a LOT of stock guys talk...would rather have you as my coach anyday
[08:51 am] mhaus : Mitch, this book looks like your biography.
[08:51 am] Ed : entries were 11:15 and 11:32
[08:51 am] apple : hey mhaus - how are you? we missed you
[08:51 am] doji : Hey mhaues, Micth is not that old
[08:52 am] apple : haha
[08:52 am] scalpman : Out another 1/10th FAZ
[08:52 am] mhaus : you kidding?
[08:52 am] eddy : ya clear mitch
[08:52 am] apple : scalp you are good
[08:52 am] mhaus : Hi Apple, and everyone
[08:52 am] joeytsa : its really Mitch Livermore, King is just his nickname :)
[08:52 am] eddy : mitch wud you consider another seminar this year?
[08:52 am] joeytsa : keep it that way
[08:52 am] Ed : nice seeing you mhaus
[08:53 am] scalpman : Aout out FAZ
[08:53 am] scalpman : all out
[08:53 am] joeytsa : who doesnt haha
[08:53 am] joeytsa : my wifes out of town, and she still nags me
[08:53 am] Ed : did u say wives joey
[08:53 am] jsn13 : Ed, thanks alot....it confirms with what i think...so when those din go stright up and u not feeling good, u would juz close out right?
[08:53 am] doji : I never had that problem but I herd others had
[08:54 am] joeytsa : :)
[08:54 am] khall : I thought it was hands off until 16?
[08:54 am] Ed : yes
[08:54 am] khall : LOL
[08:54 am] mhaus : on a serious note, Mitch, maybe you can add all the teaching in the trade room for that week to the Friday DSR.
[08:55 am] jsn13 : very nice ed....thanks....
[08:55 am] joeytsa : CF lower highs past 90min
[08:55 am] mhaus : these teaching from you and Ed are really valuable
[08:56 am] Ed : thx mhaus
[08:56 am] joeytsa : LNKD might test $96
[08:56 am] joeytsa : yes they are great lessons
[08:56 am] joeytsa : BIDU lod
[08:57 am] eddy : joey are u in lnkd?
[08:57 am] doji : I read that the move up in the market this week has been based on only 20 or so stocks
[08:58 am] joeytsa : doji: that sounds like right befor the tech bubble
[08:58 am] joeytsa : no eddy
[08:58 am] joeytsa : $96 held so far though
[09:01 am] joeytsa : GS moving down a bit
[09:01 am] joeytsa : see if the market follows
[09:01 am] doji : Drop in the SPY
[09:02 am] doji : Any news? Europe closehigher today and here we are down
[09:03 am] eyes : Everyone Tomorow will be my last day in the room it has been awesome getting to know you all Thanks Mitch Ed I might be back in a few months will see I am moving back to iowa it will take a few months to get settled in and build my home
[09:04 am] khall : we will miss you eyes - have a safe move - hope all goes well with the move
[09:04 am] lisas : We'll miss you eyes!
[09:04 am] mikewd2 -: we will miss you eyes - take care
[09:04 am] pirate : GL Eyes
[09:04 am] eddy : all the best eyes
[09:04 am] doji : Eyes remember: you are not done when you lose; you are done when you quit
[09:05 am] doji : I have that tatooes in my forehead so I can be remembered every time I loot at myself on the mirror
[09:05 am] Ed : so we shall see u back in room nov. We will give u 4months to build ur home.
[09:05 am] qwert : you will be missed eyes good luck
[09:05 am] doji : Don't forget to come back Eyes!
[09:05 am] scalpman : E-book downloading a sample of the book
[09:06 am] scalpman : I'll will read on the train...go to go...
[09:06 am] Ed : great book, I picked it up again to read this week
[09:06 am] Ed : c ya scalp
[09:06 am] apple : bye eyes - talk to you soon. we will all miss you
[09:06 am] apple : bye scalp
[09:06 am] scalpman : I had two good trades but some losses for a b.e. day...not my best...but I think I understand my mistakes....
[09:07 am] eyes : I am not quiting doji just i i have to build my home
[09:07 am] doji : Great
[09:07 am] Ed : have to get busy, Iowa has early winters right
[09:07 am] scalpman : I when to the sim and made $1000....I am still not adept at early morning trading and seem to do well better after the first hour...
[09:08 am] scalpman : wnt
[09:08 am] qwert : are you building it yourself eyes
[09:08 am] eyes : They do get cold
[09:08 am] scalpman : See you all tomorrow...
[09:08 am] qwert : cya scalp
[09:08 am] khall : bye scalp!
[09:08 am] scalpman : Scalpman has left the building
[09:08 am] cdougan : take it easy scalp
[09:08 am] scalpman : Thanks guys
[09:11 am] gumroadboy : Thanks scalpman for FAZ
[09:15 am] doji : Ok fellas, I have a 4 hours long meeting... will leave the window open to review the posts later...
[09:15 am] doji : Make tons of money!
[09:15 am] Ed : c ya doji
[09:16 am] doji : Thanks Mitch
[09:16 am] apple : i have a class, be back later
[09:16 am] Ed : have fun apple
[09:17 am] khall : bye apple
[09:17 am] eddy : bye apple
[09:17 am] lisas : bye apple doji
[09:18 am] cdougan : bye apple
[09:21 am] eddy : ed i have a question for you
[09:22 am] eddy : lets take the example og ipgp
[09:22 am] eddy : wen i stopped going down wud u just buy the lod or wait for it to bounce to be sure and then miss the lod
[09:22 am] eddy : i =it
[09:23 am] Ed : most consistent is to allow it to bottom and give signal to buy before attempting to "bottom fish"
[09:24 am] eddy : i thought there was a buy signal at 12 20
[09:24 am] Ed : most consistent apporach
[09:24 am] eddy : i guess misread it
[09:25 am] Ed : for me, trading too thin, and candles are spotty and sporadic to get good read
[09:26 am] Ed : it has only traded 126k shares so far today
[09:26 am] eddy : ya
[09:27 am] Ed : u want that share size to atleas be around 500k
[09:37 am] eyes : AIG alert
[09:38 am] eyes : not alert just watching
[09:45 am] gub : Thanks Mitch for the rec. on "Reminiscences of a Stock Operator (Wiley Investment Classics)"Edwin Lefèvre; Paperback; $5.88In Stock Sold by: Awesome Sauce Books - just purchased it from Amazon.com for 5.88.
[09:49 am] qwert : Watching yoku
[09:51 am] qwert : no shares for short on yoku at lightspeed
[09:53 am] eddy : all out sig long
[09:53 am] qwert : nice trade eddy
[09:54 am] eddy : thx
[09:54 am] Ed : nice going eddy
[09:54 am] Ed : good eye on YOKU qwert
[09:54 am] qwert : thx
[09:55 am] qwert : hopefully someone got some shares for short
[10:02 am] Ed : '
[10:02 am] joeytsa : yeah Ed, the ES in a 3pt range the last hour
[10:06 am] eddy : taking a 10 mn break be back
[10:15 am] eddy : back ...did not seem to have missed much
[10:15 am] Ed : u missed the slow action
[10:15 am] eddy : ya i can see that
[10:20 am] eddy : joey u there?
[10:20 am] joeytsa : yeah, just napping
[10:21 am] eddy : in sse there are fibonacci right?
[10:21 am] joeytsa : let me check
[10:21 am] eddy : no fibonacci i meant
[10:21 am] joeytsa : yeah i dont see any
[10:21 am] eddy : ok thought so
[10:22 am] eddy : thx
[10:22 am] qwert : ROSG
[10:22 am] joeytsa : no prob
[10:23 am] jolliffboy : Where is the buy signal on ROSG now that it is playing with 16.00?
[10:24 am] jolliffboy : Thanks Mitch
[10:25 am] eddy : we have to break our promise top you mitch
[10:26 am] eddy : ok
[10:36 am] apple : too quiet. it's pouring rain here...
[10:36 am] Ed : here too,
[10:36 am] apple : how about a song...
[10:37 am] eddy : dark but hot nd humid here
[10:37 am] apple : eddy where are you
[10:37 am] Ed : richmond va
[10:38 am] eddy : dubai
[10:38 am] apple : i knew that E
[10:38 am] shark : yeah, I knew that too
[10:38 am] apple : wow, on the other side
[10:38 am] eddy : yup
[10:39 am] eddy : wen u have your morning cofee i have supper
[10:39 am] apple : what is the time diff. between ny? it's 1:39 pm here now
[10:39 am] eddy : 9 39 pm here
[10:39 am] apple : so this is your nighttime job?
[10:39 am] apple : 8 hours then
[10:39 am] eddy : ya
[10:39 am] eyes : My Dads operation went well
[10:39 am] apple : do you have a day job?
[10:40 am] eddy : halleluis eyes
[10:40 am] qwert : thats great eyes
[10:40 am] apple : good eyes, glad tohear that
[10:40 am] eddy : no apple
[10:40 am] Ed : glad to hear eyes, thx for update
[10:40 am] eddy : no day job anymore
[10:40 am] apple : eddy, you don't need one
[10:40 am] eddy : just this for now
[10:40 am] apple : great
[10:40 am] eddy : hopefully it will work
[10:40 am] apple : hope, nuthin', it is working and you are doing great
[10:41 am] eddy : thx for your kind words apple
[10:41 am] apple : it is true
[10:41 am] eddy : i started studying in feb
[10:41 am] eddy : trading since april
[10:41 am] eddy : too earlt to tell
[10:42 am] apple : good for you.
[10:42 am] qwert : trading live the whole time eddy
[10:42 am] eddy : no
[10:42 am] eddy : i did sim one month
[10:42 am] eddy : but rea;ized it has no room for emotions
[10:42 am] apple : right
[10:42 am] qwert : are you getting consistent winners
[10:42 am] victor51 : eye, great news that all went well with your Dad
[10:43 am] eddy : i have some wins and losses
[10:43 am] eddy : overall i am down for now
[10:43 am] eddy : but nothing that cannot be recovered
[10:43 am] apple : absolutely!
[10:43 am] qwert : keep track of win percentagr
[10:43 am] eddy : i am determined for it to work
[10:43 am] apple : it will then
[10:44 am] eddy : on the average i make a 60 % winning trades now
[10:44 am] lisas : it will eddy, you are doing everything right. Just protect your trading money. Going small size is OK
[10:44 am] eddy : but unbalanced inb terms of dollar amount
[10:44 am] eddy : i need to fix this
[10:45 am] eddy : u guys are so supportive
[10:45 am] eddy : thx for everything
[10:46 am] qwert : try to do every position same dollar amt
[10:46 am] qwert : then 60% winners means you are making money
[10:46 am] joeytsa : great to hear eyes
[10:47 am] eddy : yes qwert ..this shud become my discipline
[10:47 am] eddy : so eyes this is awesome news
[10:47 am] eddy : we are going to miss your great scanning
[10:48 am] joseph : ssysand wprt lod
[10:48 am] eyes : Thanks Eddy
[10:49 am] joeytsa : looks like ES might test this lod area again
[10:49 am] Ed : yep hovering near lows
[10:49 am] joeytsa : ES is the futures contract for the emini s&p for those who might not know
[10:50 am] qwert : MNST tryin to pop 72.00
[10:50 am] joeytsa : not Energy Solutions if you tried to type the symbol
[10:54 am] eddy : joey in wat way is ES relevant to our efforts here?
[10:54 am] joeytsa : market direction
[10:54 am] eddy : like spy?
[10:54 am] joeytsa : yeah, its the futures contracts
[10:54 am] eddy : k
[10:54 am] joeytsa : what floor traders are trading
[10:55 am] eddy : is mike in the room today?
[10:56 am] joeytsa : new lows in the markets
[10:56 am] eyes : Did anyone S aig
[10:56 am] joeytsa : i didnt
[11:00 am] joeytsa : crude has been selling off also
[11:01 am] joseph : is nflx stillgood as a short under 70.40
[11:02 am] Ed : this late in day, only if it combined with selloff in SPY and huge vol breaking down on nflx through 70.40
[11:02 am] joseph : thanks
[11:13 am] joeytsa : not a trade yet, but BIDU cons just under prev low
[11:14 am] joeytsa : nice on Ed
[11:15 am] Ed : thx joey
[11:15 am] shark : AAPL broke pivot
[11:15 am] qwert : Ed did you trade ESL
[11:16 am] Ed : yes, dont like I missed 1st short, had to take the leftover trade
[11:16 am] Ed : I mean 2nd short
[11:17 am] joeytsa : 2nd short was actually better
[11:17 am] shark : leftover money tastes almost as good as fresh money, Ed ;)
[11:17 am] qwert : Where did you enter
[11:17 am] Ed : ur right shark does taste good
[11:18 am] eddy : ED did u call to cover because it reached VWAP?
[11:18 am] Ed : entered on 2:05est, with stop 67.87 tad above 2:04 est candle high
[11:19 am] qwert : thx ed
[11:20 am] Ed : yes, I take my 1st target of profit based 1st area of resistance/support
[11:20 am] Ed : some people will use %
[11:20 am] shark : LNKD, CRM much weaker today on open.
[11:20 am] shark : keep in mind for poss POD chart pattern
[11:20 am] eddy : k thx ed
[11:20 am] joeytsa : yeah shark
[11:20 am] Ed : no problem
[11:20 am] Ed : thx shark
[11:22 am] gub : Ed when you got the price at 2:05 was it taken off the Matrix on TS?
[11:22 am] joeytsa : SPY vol looks to be just over half of yesterdays total
[11:22 am] gub : Or did you set a buy limit and wait for it to hit?
[11:22 am] Ed : no, I dont use matrix
[11:23 am] mikewd2 -: CHK
[11:24 am] Ed : I have mine set with buy at bid plus .01, and sometimes bump it up
[11:24 am] Ed : to get my price
[11:24 am] gub : Thank!
[11:25 am] qwert : nice mike on chk
[11:25 am] Ed : matrix would probably be easier,
[11:25 am] gub : I kind of like it.
[11:25 am] gub : work fast.
[11:25 am] Ed : true
[11:25 am] Ed : nice mike
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: covered CHK S 15.15
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: quick 2%, hope you guys got it
[11:26 am] Ed : we need 20 more like this
[11:26 am] qwert : thx mike
[11:26 am] eyes : I tryed to s and it just jumped past my price 15.34
[11:27 am] eddy : covered at 15.13
[11:27 am] lisas : Ed, are you using the quick trade bar?
[11:27 am] eddy : thx mike
[11:27 am] eddy : i was wondering why you were silent
[11:27 am] eddy : good call
[11:27 am] Ed : just from regular layout at top
[11:27 am] lisas : are you on 9.1 or 9.0?
[11:27 am] Ed : 9.1
[11:28 am] gub : TS had upgrade today.
[11:28 am] gub : seems quicker.
[11:28 am] lisas : haven't tried the quick trade bar yet, may try that first with sim
[11:28 am] Ed : go figure, always wanted chart trading ability, have it and hav not used it once
[11:28 am] lisas : I didn't upgrade yet gub, saw it but have learned the hard way to do upgrades at end of day, lol.
[11:29 am] apple : gotta go for now... thx MK, E and everyone. all have a wonderful evening
[11:29 am] Ed : tried it in sim, seemed ok
[11:29 am] lisas : TS sometimes rolls things out too soon
[11:29 am] joeytsa : bye apple
[11:29 am] Ed : c ya apple
[11:29 am] lisas : bye apple
[11:29 am] qwert : bye apple
[11:29 am] gub : chart trading I find too slow.
[11:29 am] eddy : bye apple
[11:29 am] Ed : i never update until Im forced too
[11:29 am] gub : on TS
[11:30 am] eddy : ok everyone im awfully late for a dinner party
[11:30 am] lisas : yeah, I'm interested in trying the chart trading, someone here was using it.
[11:30 am] eddy : closed in green
[11:30 am] lisas : bye eddy, have fun
[11:30 am] ogking : Ce ya Apple
[11:30 am] eddy : thx for all im outta here
[11:30 am] joeytsa : bye eddy
[11:30 am] lisas : good job eddy!
[11:30 am] qwert : cya eddy
[11:30 am] Ed : have fun eddy
[11:30 am] cdougan : take care eddy
[11:31 am] joeytsa : i wish i had chart trading on lightspeed..will have to make a switch someday
[11:31 am] ogking : c ya eddy
[11:32 am] eyes : The best chart trading I have seen or used is Ninja
[11:32 am] joeytsa : ninja's is nice, only had it for futures though
[11:33 am] qwert : joey do you trade the es
[11:33 am] eyes : I think TS will catch up thou
[11:33 am] joeytsa : yeah...not a while lot but i do trade it
[11:33 am] joeytsa : whole
[11:33 am] qwert : i have not but was thinking of looking at it
[11:34 am] joeytsa : i just look for patterns, just like with stocks
[11:34 am] lisas : do you have both eyes?
[11:36 am] joeytsa : qwert, lightspeed does futures also i believe
[11:37 am] qwert : i think your right do you look for the same setups as stocks
[11:41 am] Ed : CHK offered 2nd opportunity for short if u missed the 1st
[11:41 am] Ed : of course its over now though
[11:41 am] cdougan : I'm out. Have a great day everyone. Thanks for the great calls and lessons.
[11:41 am] Ed : c ya cdougna
[11:41 am] qwert : bye cdoug
[11:41 am] Ed : cdougan
[11:42 am] joseph : thiergoes nflx
[11:42 am] Ed : u get it joseph
[11:42 am] joseph : no
[11:42 am] jsn13 : Ed, did u short CHK at the double top?
[11:42 am] Ed : it was lowere high
[11:43 am] joseph : i know was looking at other stuffdistracted
[11:43 am] Ed : happens
[11:43 am] jsn13 : U shorted at 2.37 est bar?
[11:43 am] joseph : watched it for a long time ohwell
[11:44 am] joseph : aapl
[11:44 am] Ed : u will get next one
[11:45 am] Ed : 2:24est and shorted again 2:37 est
[11:45 am] joseph : petm if holds low can move up
[11:47 am] jsn13 : Ed, for the 2nd top, the signal is that the long shadows signifying the rejection of higher prices right?
[11:48 am] Ed : , cluing on price, vol, candles, price was moving up on low vol, then u had rejection of higher prices, so high prob. to go in on 2nd attempt short
[11:48 am] scalpman : Mitch: reading the book....I think I understand, but why did the "Bucket Shops" lose money if a trader made a profitable trade...?
[11:49 am] scalpman : ...I assume they owned the stock that the trader was buying as opposed to being just a broker!
[11:49 am] jsn13 : thanks ed....very nice explanation..
[11:51 am] Ed : and looks like even if u use stochastics it started turning over also
[11:51 am] joeytsa : AMZN lod
[11:51 am] jsn13 : Yes Ed...now i see it...thanks...
[11:52 am] joeytsa : they did Ed, same with %r
[11:53 am] Ed : goes to show, no matter what one uses, they tell the story if we pay attention to the action
[11:53 am] Ed : they being the charts, etc
[11:53 am] joeytsa : yeah
[11:53 am] jsn13 : agree....
[11:54 am] joeytsa : nice one mike
[11:54 am] mikewd2 -: well should have took the second short also
[11:54 am] joeytsa : did you take the long?
[11:55 am] mikewd2 -: no i have too much oil - haha
[11:55 am] joeytsa : gotta fill your tanker somehow
[11:55 am] eyes : AMED
[11:56 am] joeytsa : LNKD testing vwap res again
[11:58 am] joeytsa : ROSG sneakily up $2 from lows
[11:58 am] victor51 : Joey, what's VWAP stands for
[11:58 am] joeytsa : volume weighted average price
[11:58 am] mikewd2 -: vol weighted avg price
[11:58 am] victor51 : Thanks.
[11:59 am] mikewd2 -: victor, did you get the program that eyes found for VWAP on tradestation?
[11:59 am] joeytsa : its a fairly new indicator for me victor
[12:01 pm] scalpman : vWAP Is displayed in the price matrix on Tradestation
[12:02 pm] mikewd2 -: right, but you need to load a easylanguage program to have it on the charts.
[12:02 pm] victor51 : Mike, No. is it same as they mark V in front of price in Matrix?
[12:02 pm] mikewd2 -: yes, it great having it on the charts
[12:03 pm] eyes : NTAP breaking out Cons
[12:03 pm] eyes : NTAP
[12:03 pm] victor51 : what's best way to use, Mike
[12:03 pm] joeytsa : thx eyes
[12:03 pm] Ed : thx eyes
[12:04 pm] eyes : a little late just saw it
[12:04 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah, i missed NTAP also eyes
[12:06 pm] skydiver : thanks for vwap info -- been difficult to get it for esignal for me -- I kept my old Scott trade platform charts and they have it available
[12:06 pm] qwert : sky i have vwap for esignal
[12:06 pm] skydiver : really?
[12:07 pm] qwert : you want me to email you the file
[12:07 pm] skydiver : wow -- that would be awesome qwert
[12:07 pm] qwert : give me your address
[12:07 pm] skydiver : lorenwaggoner@me.com qwert
[12:15 pm] joeytsa : ROSG pulling back again
[12:17 pm] eyes : SPLK
[12:17 pm] eyes : scratch no vol
[12:19 pm] jsn13 : Ed, did u go long ROSG at 1.33pm est bar?
[12:19 pm] Ed : no did not trade it then, nice signal though
[12:20 pm] eyes : you see GENE on Daily
[12:21 pm] jsn13 : juz saw it...yup that bar gave very nice entry.....
[12:21 pm] Ed : i do now, thx eyes
[12:27 pm] eyes : Vol picking up in XIV
[12:28 pm] mikewd2 -: getting a little bounce in the oils
[12:30 pm] victor51 : I need to run. See you all
[12:31 pm] joeytsa : bye victor
[12:31 pm] eyes : Ed any thoughts XIV
[12:42 pm] Ed : no not my type of trade
[12:42 pm] jsn13 : Ed, did u short CHK again?
[12:44 pm] eyes : Good Night everyone +16
[12:45 pm] Ed : c ya eyes
[12:45 pm] qwert : cya eyes
[12:45 pm] Ed : yes
[12:45 pm] skydiver : Been at office trying to do a trade or two -- but now off to a meeting -- see you all in the morning -- take care eyes
[12:45 pm] lisas : bye eyes
[12:45 pm] Ed : c ya sky
[12:45 pm] skydiver : thnx for great teaching today Mitch and Ed!!
[12:45 pm] skydiver : I'm gone :)
[12:45 pm] qwert : bye sky
[12:45 pm] skydiver : thnx qwert - got your email :)
[12:46 pm] lisas : bye sky
[12:46 pm] lisas : so Ed, is ebuying like ebaying?
[12:46 pm] Ed : lol
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : bye sky
[12:47 pm] lisas : speaking of EBAY
[12:47 pm] Ed : be nice if they spin off paypal
[12:47 pm] lisas : are they talking about that?
[12:47 pm] Ed : just talk from others
[12:48 pm] lisas : I got the paypal IPO years ago, did well with it held until ebay bought it
[12:48 pm] joeytsa : ROSG up over $18
[12:48 pm] lisas : should have bought more though, didn't know anything back then about stocks
[12:48 pm] Ed : our ipo specialist
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: http://​eminisuccessformula.kajabi.com/​f e/​24127-the-30-minute-breakout-st​rategy
[12:48 pm] mikewd2 -: wrong paste sorry
[12:49 pm] mikewd2 -: CHK)Ichan's stake in Chesapeake possibly 4% or more, Bloomberg reports
[12:49 pm] lisas : actually I was an ebayer, that did a lot of business with paypal, that's why I got the ipo price
[12:49 pm] joeytsa : Twitter may want their ipo on nyse because of the FB ipo
[12:49 pm] jsn13 : Ed, ur short signal at the big green bar right? entry a 3.38 bar?
[12:50 pm] Ed : played it differently but ur signal is3:38, entry on 3:39 bar
[12:51 pm] jsn13 : the 2nd red bar?
[12:51 pm] jsn13 : harami?
[12:52 pm] Ed : no, not sure of name, but know its not harrami, remember price, vol, then candles, dont want to trade purely off candles
[12:53 pm] jsn13 : yup...got it....
[12:54 pm] Ed : price got rejected at 16, vol dropped way off, then wait for candle setup
[12:54 pm] jsn13 : but looks like the entry might be abit late with wide stop and support area at 15.40-15.50 area...
[12:54 pm] jsn13 : yup like the long shadow with 16 as top...
[12:56 pm] Ed : sure u can find a 1000's reasons not to take a trade
[12:56 pm] jsn13 : ok understand ed, no perfect setup...
[12:56 pm] Ed : but I feel like if price,vol, candle saying go, I go with stops in place, if wrong, good, Im out wont stay to figure out what went wrong
[12:56 pm] Ed : will study it later though
[12:57 pm] jsn13 : thanks for the reminder and the advice....thanks alot....
[12:58 pm] Ed : remember if they were all perfect setups, the fail rate for traders would be like 1 to 10%
[12:59 pm] jsn13 : ok i see....i will definite study those later....more screenshots....
[12:59 pm] Ed : thats why u have to have ur system, when its consistent stick with it and winners will more than make up for losses
[01:00 pm] mikewd2 -: CHK)Icahn said to be major Chesapeake holder, Bloomberg says
[01:00 pm] joeytsa : Thanks Mitch, Ed, everyone...another fun one, see you all tomorrow
[01:00 pm] Ed : on stock like chk, if u quickly examine and u dont like r/r, best not to trade it, never compromise ur system
[01:00 pm] mikewd2 -: bye guys, cu joey
[01:00 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[01:01 pm] qwert : good night evry body see ya in the am
[01:01 pm] lisas : bye all, have a great nite
[01:01 pm] jsn13 : 1st i saw it late, 2nd I dont like the rr...so no trade for me...
[01:01 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders
[01:03 pm] gub : Ed - in the early morning you gave stocks with long/short such as potential plays (EXPE 46.5long, short44.30). Are these target prices that you hold until it hits this price then you get out?
[01:03 pm] gub : Please explain.
[01:03 pm] jsn13 : gub those are entry price...
[01:03 pm] gub : daaaah...
[01:04 pm] gub : Thanks!
[01:04 pm] Ed : those are entry prices, thx
[01:04 pm] gub : My teacher always said no ? is a stupid ?
[01:05 pm] Ed : those particular entries, Im looking for either breakout/breakdown with strong vol.
[01:06 pm] Ed : so, some may not even trigger
[01:06 pm] gub : TY!
[01:07 pm] Ed : no problem
[01:10 pm] gub : This day of sim trading was very difficult today.
[01:11 pm] gub : Still learning the feel of the markets.
[01:12 pm] gub : Couldn't get my market mo jo going - what little I have anyways..
[01:13 pm] gub : But your comments Mitch are very helpful in accelating my learning and I TY.
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