Chat Highlights From 05/14/2013

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(06:23 am) Ed :good morning (06:30 am) Mitch King:watching DDD (06:30 am) Mitch King:watching SCTY (06:30 am) Mitch King:watching XONE (06:30 am) Mitch King:watching CREE (06:30 am) Mitch King:watching TSLA (06:31 am) Mitch King:watching AAPL (06:31 am) Mitch King:watching NFLX (06:32 am) Mitch King:watching SSYS (06:32 am) Ed :on DDD will use 49.31 with strong vol for breakout (06:32 am) Mitch King:watching BIDU (06:32 am) Mitch King:watching GMCR (06:33 am) Mitch King:watching WPX (06:33 am) Mitch King:watching PCLN (06:34 am) Mitch King:watching GS (06:34 am) Ed :KSU (06:34 am) Mitch King:watching TSLA for bottom (06:34 am) Mitch King:watching NFLX (06:35 am) Mitch King:watching WLP (06:35 am) Mitch King:watching BIIB (06:35 am) Mitch King:watching AMZN (06:36 am) Mitch King:watching IOC (06:36 am) Mitch King:wathing ICLR (06:36 am) Mitch King:watching BIDU (06:37 am) Mitch King:watching MCP (06:38 am) Mitch King:TSLA trying to bottom (06:38 am) Mitch King:watching FSLR (06:38 am) Mitch King:watching BBRY (06:39 am) Mitch King:watching C (06:40 am) Mitch King:watching JPM (06:40 am) Mitch King:NSM (06:40 am) Mitch King:watching NS< (06:40 am) Mitch King:watching SFLY (06:45 am) Mitch King:watching THRX (06:48 am) Mitch King:watching MSFT (06:50 am) Mitch King:IOC is also on the move (06:50 am) Mitch King:CELG on the move (06:51 am) Mitch King:SODA trending up (06:53 am) Ed :if u took DDD long would reduce some in here (06:55 am) Mitch King:JOY trying to bottom (06:56 am) Mitch King:TSLA will be good on the next bottom (06:57 am) Mitch King:watching SCTY (06:59 am) Mitch King:watching KSU closer (06:59 am) Mitch King:watching VC (07:01 am) Mitch King:watching SSYS (07:04 am) Mitch King:watching IOC (07:07 am) Mitch King:watching PCYC (07:11 am) Ed :will now use candle to tightern stop on DDD (07:11 am) Mitch King:TSLA has been a short on the top of the bounce trade all morning (07:12 am) Ed :out all DDD long (07:13 am) Mitch King:good job eddy (07:14 am) Ed :SPY new hod (07:16 am) Mitch King:watching FSLR (07:17 am) Mitch King:watching BIIB (07:20 am) Ed :on TSLA monitor 87ish area for potential long (07:21 am) Ed :advanced trade TSLA (07:22 am) Ed :still prefer selling into 87ish area (07:27 am) Mitch King:watching BMRN (07:30 am) Mitch King:lower lows, lower highs on TSLA (07:31 am) Ed :passing on TSLA idea into 87 area due to the meandering and steady downtrend (07:32 am) Ed :the way to look for long on this for advanced traders, draw ur trendline and use break of trend with closing candle for long for low risk entry (07:32 am) Mitch King:new lod of TSLA (07:33 am) Mitch King:TSLA hitting bid (07:35 am) Mitch King:looking for a small bounce on TSLA on the next bottom (07:36 am) Mitch King:will explain later (07:36 am) Mitch King:today is capitulation day for TSLA (07:37 am) Mitch King:start small (07:37 am) Mitch King:watching for short on TSLA near 89 area, be flexible (07:38 am) Mitch King:and stay small lol (07:39 am) Mitch King:soon (07:39 am) Mitch King:consider selling TSLA if long (07:41 am) Mitch King:looking for TSLA to drop down below 88 toward 87 (07:42 am) Ed :the break of trend play was speaking of happend righ at about 88.8ish level provided nice quick 1.3, but advanced traders should have gotten it sooner. fyi (07:44 am) Mitch King:watching NFLX (07:54 am) Ed :SPY higher highs (07:57 am) Mitch King:watching JWN (08:00 am) Mitch King:ARE steadiest uptrend ive ever seen lol (08:24 am) Mitch King:SODA breaking out (08:26 am) Mitch King:watching CHKP (08:26 am) Mitch King:SCTY trending up (08:53 am) Ed :11:53 AUD/USD Falls below 0.99 for fist time in nearly one year - (09:15 am) Mitch King:watching CG (09:21 am) Ed :SPY trading at highs (09:22 am) Mitch King:SNE is on the move (09:23 am) Mitch King:its probably from the CNBC report that just fnished (09:54 am) Ed :nice pullback and change of trend for now on SPY (10:22 am) Ed :13:22 ACT Said to ahve rehected a bid from Mylan valued at $15B - financial press (related MYL WCRX ) - Sourc (10:37 am) Mitch King:looking for good bounce on TSLA (10:37 am) Mitch King:lower low on TSLA (10:42 am) Mitch King:TSLA could go below $80 today on big capitulation days like today (10:45 am) Ed :for those scalping TSLA long keep eye on bounce in terms of points (10:49 am) Mitch King:on which stock Ed? (10:51 am) Mitch King:watching QCOR (10:54 am) Ed :nice murano (10:54 am) Mitch King:good eye Murano (10:56 am) Ed :nice quick scalp for longs that is on AAPL (10:56 am) Ed :AAPL is for advanced traders, overall trend is down but will provide nice quick scalp (10:56 am) Mitch King:market should rebound on SPY on next bottom (11:07 am) Mitch King:SPY and QQQ bouncing, bringing up AAPL (11:08 am) Mitch King:yes zentrader, TSLA developed into a bullshort and the peak volume is usually peak price, and has wides range from high to low, thats capitulation day (11:10 am) Mitch King:plenty of shares to short everywhere but, remember that there is a big short interest, many shares short still although that is being worked out now (11:10 am) Mitch King:on the daily chart, TSLA should get into the low 70s (11:11 am) Mitch King:only naked calls if i cannot find shares to short (11:11 am) Mitch King:i like shorting the stock or selling naked calls (11:12 am) Ed :LVS (11:28 am) Mitch King:looking for bounce in AAPL (11:33 am) Ed :nice break of trend on TSLA even on 5minute chart (11:35 am) Mitch King:remember we have had a high of 95.27 on TSLA today low just above $81 so it is common to see strong rebound. Tomomrrow is going to be another excellent trading day with TSLA both directions (11:37 am) Mitch King:also realize that SCTY has a big range today from high to low as well (11:41 am) Mitch King:should get a little pullback here in TSLA soon (11:43 am) Mitch King:might rebound to near 48 (11:43 am) Mitch King:good eye on DDD boys (11:48 am) Mitch King:closed DDD long, struggling to get to 48 (11:49 am) Mitch King:you had the right idea though Joey, i was busy with DDD (11:50 am) Ed :TSLA CEO Musk: Will make an announcement about Superchargers next week, with an additional announcement to come this week -tweet (update)- (11:52 am) Mitch King:double top on TSLA (12:24 pm) Ed :nice murano on AMBA (12:42 pm) Ed :SPY new hod (12:50 pm) Mitch King:very typical for bullshorts to end toward low of day on first correction day (12:51 pm) Mitch King:later joey, thanks for all your help, appreciate it (12:53 pm) Mitch King:with the bullshort model, if TSLA rebounds back up toward $90 area, you short again, i think it could go either way, probably up a few points at open (12:57 pm) Ed :have a great evening traders (12:58 pm) Mitch King:see you bright and early tomorrow guys (06:12 am) joeytsa :Good morning Diosna, everyone (06:13 am) zentrader :gm, everyone! it's been a while... :) (06:13 am) joeytsa :zen !!!!! (06:13 am) zentrader :Hey Joey! (06:13 am) joeytsa :gap up: SSYS,TSLA,ZONE,TTWO (06:13 am) joeytsa :how ya been? (06:13 am) zentrader :I popped in yesterday for a bit, but other than that it must be months (06:13 am) zentrader :I'm doing great. how bout you guys? I saw some nice trades yesterday (06:14 am) joeytsa :gap down: SCTY,CREE,WES? (06:14 am) skydiver :gm all (06:14 am) joeytsa :i saw your name in here yesterday, all is well (06:14 am) zentrader :great, let's get em (06:16 am) joeytsa :using 1634,1627 as /ES levels (06:16 am) joeytsa :$95.10 is the pp for /CL (06:20 am) joeytsa :TSLA just a monster (06:21 am) joeytsa :also watching NFLX, THRX from yesterday (06:21 am) Ed :hey zen (06:21 am) joeytsa :Good morning Ed and Mitch also (06:22 am) skydiver :monitoring SNE - NY times says Dan Loeb's Third Point has amassed a 6.5 % stale and is pressing the company to spin off part of it's entertainment unit (06:23 am) skydiver :stake not stale (06:23 am) skydiver :gm Ed (06:24 am) joeytsa :thx sky (06:24 am) joeytsa :SNE hits my scan at times, i pull the chart up and it goes nowhere haha (06:25 am) elisha :Good Morning Mitch, Ed, Diosna and everyone (06:25 am) victor51 :G M all (06:26 am) skydiver ::) (06:26 am) elisha :thx for gaps joey (06:27 am) joeytsa ::) (06:27 am) zentrader :Hi Ed! (06:28 am) joeytsa :nice pullback on /CL back into some support (06:28 am) joeytsa :bounced rigth off that pp (06:29 am) joeytsa :keep eye on SSYS also..same industry as DDD, XONE (06:31 am) joeytsa :TSLA to $100 today? (06:31 am) joeytsa :/NG trying to push over $4 (06:32 am) joeytsa :some nice pops in the big names (06:33 am) skydiver :s TS:A 96.01 (06:33 am) skydiver :TSLA that is (06:33 am) joeytsa :great sky, too quick for me (06:33 am) skydiver :all out of TSLA short (06:34 am) skydiver :hand my hand shaking on the mouse joey :)\ (06:34 am) joeytsa :haha, eye on THRX..gapped up yesterday (06:35 am) joeytsa :/ES testing R1 (06:35 am) joeytsa :SCTY nice (06:37 am) joeytsa :eye on LNKD,NFLX for setup higher (06:38 am) joeytsa :/ES up and over R1 (06:40 am) joeytsa :SSYS setting up a flag on 1min (06:40 am) joeytsa :watching AMGN (06:42 am) zentrader :watching JOY (06:43 am) joeytsa :SCTY has $36 res, up and over should get nice run (06:44 am) joeytsa :NFLX on watch also (06:45 am) regatta :SPY turning over (06:46 am) joeytsa :/CL back into support area (06:46 am) joeytsa :/ES a push over 1637 should get it to 1640 (06:47 am) joeytsa :SSYS has clear skies to $100 (06:48 am) joeytsa :maybe not today, but on watch (06:48 am) joeytsa :OCN (06:48 am) joeytsa :GMCR to test $80 (06:50 am) joeytsa :/GC on nice run (06:50 am) skydiver :looks like SNE might have bottomed? (06:51 am) skydiver :not yet I guess on SNE (06:52 am) zentrader :watching TCK (06:54 am) zentrader :JOY is trying to turn over (06:55 am) skydiver :short MSFT 33.27 - see what happens (06:56 am) skydiver :my first real trade this morning -- previouis were simulated due to my day yesterday (06:57 am) joeytsa :GS going for hod (06:57 am) zentrader :watching RYL (06:58 am) joeytsa :/CL nice bounce of that support area again (07:00 am) joeytsa :SSYS still nice (07:01 am) joeytsa :SSYS real nice chart to study (07:01 am) joeytsa :mentioned earlier it was making flag, then broke up, gave nice higher low pullback then to new highs (07:02 am) zentrader :man, I couldn't find any shares of SCTY to borrow this AM (07:02 am) joeytsa :same here zen, and was too slow to try for puts (07:03 am) skydiver :thnks joey for SSYS to study -- very nice (07:04 am) skydiver :all out of MSFT short (07:04 am) joeytsa :no prob, its a nice one (07:04 am) skydiver :yesterday was my first negative day in the morning, then lunch two trades ended in the green . . not fun. . .but salavaged the day (07:05 am) joeytsa :yeah, i get my share of buttkicks (07:05 am) joeytsa :NFLX trying to bottom (07:05 am) joeytsa :GOOG,PCLN nearing hod area (07:05 am) joeytsa :AMZN also (07:06 am) joeytsa :eye on GMCR if it gets over $80 (07:07 am) joeytsa :LL has a nice daily chart too, over $90 now, on alert for run to $100 (07:08 am) joeytsa :/CL triangle forming at $95 (07:09 am) joeytsa :missed great long on IOC (07:09 am) zentrader :nice NFLX :) (07:10 am) joeytsa ::) gave great pullback (07:11 am) joeytsa :IOC into $90 now, arrggg haha (07:12 am) joeytsa :nice one Ed (07:12 am) Ed :thx (07:13 am) Ed :thank you Mitch (07:14 am) skydiver :very Nice Ed . . .:) (07:14 am) zentrader :nice short on DDD but I could not find shares again (07:14 am) joeytsa :/ES testing R2 (07:14 am) Ed :yea zen was quick (07:15 am) joeytsa :BIIB might get to $230 (07:16 am) victor51 :Ed Fantastic call DDD. I missed it, well next time (07:17 am) joeytsa :IOC turned over (07:17 am) Ed :nice call on IOC (07:17 am) joeytsa :Mitch mentioned it earlier, just wished i went long then (07:19 am) joeytsa :still watching /CL for breakout, just gave me a be trade, oh well (07:19 am) joeytsa :SODA, same type of chart as SSYS (07:20 am) joeytsa :AIG slow steady up (07:20 am) joeytsa :Mitch: great call on TSLA whack-a-mole play :) (07:22 am) Mitch King:as long as ya dont whack my head (07:22 am) joeytsa :never, we need your Chinese proverbs from time to time :) (07:23 am) joeytsa :GMCR moving over $80 (07:29 am) joeytsa :got those last 2 /CL moves..made up for that earlier one (07:29 am) joeytsa :see if OIC holds $87 and gets back over ma's (07:30 am) joeytsa :LNKD moving still (07:32 am) joeytsa :AMZN,GOOG,PCLN,LNKD all near hod (07:35 am) Ed :was really great short the highs on TSLA (07:35 am) zentrader :sure was Ed :) (07:36 am) joeytsa :now 1643 printed (07:36 am) joeytsa :guess next targets will be 1647,1650 (07:37 am) joeytsa :break time, fun morning, see you in 20..make some $$ :) (07:37 am) skydiver :see ya joey (07:38 am) skydiver :thmx Mitch . . caught TSLA long at 87.70 but small position (07:38 am) Mitch King:hey zentrader! hows it goin? havent seen you for a while (07:38 am) Ed :nice trading sky (07:38 am) skydiver :87.79 that is (07:38 am) zentrader :got TSLA on both sides. that just made my day :) (07:39 am) zentrader :Hi Mitch! going well, glad to "see" you all again! (07:39 am) skydiver :all out of TSLA long (07:40 am) skydiver :thnx Mitch (07:41 am) skydiver :welcome zen . . .good to see you on board again :) (07:41 am) zentrader :thxs sky! (07:41 am) zentrader :I forgot how much fun this room was :) (07:42 am) skydiver ::) (07:42 am) skydiver :It's the best!!! :) (07:42 am) Ed :break of trend plays are for conservative play. (07:43 am) skydiver :thnx Ed . . . good teaching :) (07:45 am) Ed :fyi: on really weak stock best to wait for break of trend no hurry one can pay price if too early (07:46 am) Ed :if u study CTSH from 5/10 and 5/13 u will see what im speaking about (07:47 am) elisha :thx Ed (07:47 am) skydiver :thnx again Ed -- will study CTSH (07:48 am) Ed :no problem (07:49 am) skydiver :Okay, my time is up, but will try to jump on last 90 minutes again today. . . thanks for great callls and teaching again :) (07:52 am) Ed :c ya sky (07:54 am) victor51 :Thanks Ed for TSLA. Nice ride (08:00 am) Ed :it is (08:03 am) joeytsa :ALXN nice steady move (08:07 am) joeytsa :great job on TSLA (08:07 am) zentrader :taking a break, catch you all this afternoon (08:07 am) joeytsa :bye zen, good to have you back (08:07 am) Ed :c ya zen (08:29 am) joeytsa :nice call on SODA (08:30 am) joeytsa :/NQ up over 3000 (08:30 am) joeytsa :/CL in a range (08:31 am) joeytsa :GS having nice day (08:31 am) regatta :BBRY (08:33 am) joeytsa :eye on LNKD for break to next level (08:37 am) joeytsa :GMCR nice push (08:39 am) joeytsa :SSYS hod (08:44 am) joeytsa :/GC been in a pullback (08:45 am) joeytsa :ATHN drop (08:46 am) joeytsa :/ES hod (08:47 am) joeytsa :too bad just didnt let it run from the open (08:47 am) joeytsa :ALXN hod (08:52 am) joeytsa :eye on this slight /ES pullback to support (08:53 am) joeytsa :SODA nice $2 run on Mitch's call...nice job (08:53 am) joeytsa :thx Ed (08:54 am) joeytsa :V clear skies to $200 ? (09:05 am) joeytsa :watching SODA here near $64 (09:10 am) joeytsa :LNKD up almost $8 since first mention at 6:37 :) (09:11 am) Ed :nice move (09:11 am) joeytsa :maybe 190's this week, then $200's (09:17 am) joeytsa :/ES testing 1647 res here (09:17 am) joeytsa :/CL been giving nice scalps off this support area all day (09:27 am) murano :BBY (09:28 am) joeytsa :BBY been nice, SODA was nice on that pullback also (09:44 am) joeytsa :TSLA still trying to bottom (09:47 am) murano :If you took BBY short would cover some here (09:58 am) joeytsa :between benghazi, the irs story , and the AP story..administration is getting it from all angles (09:59 am) joeytsa :jobs are terrible, can you imagine if the stock market was in bad shape also (10:00 am) joeytsa :eye on /CL here (10:01 am) Ed :beautiful chart of TSLA on 5minute chart (10:02 am) joeytsa :wish i had those puts from the open :) (10:03 am) Ed :u had the manti teo puts (10:03 am) joeytsa :haha (10:13 am) Ed :now the shorts are celebrating, even ones underwater on TSLA (10:13 am) Ed :they are saying i knew it would eventually fall (10:13 am) joeytsa ::) (10:13 am) joeytsa :but most are still in the red haha (10:14 am) Ed :giving them hope (10:14 am) joeytsa :that 5min chart you mentioned is very telling on the day (10:14 am) joeytsa :from the very 1st candle (10:17 am) shark :EUR/USD drop (10:17 am) shark :awesome run overnight on USD/JPY again (10:19 am) Ed :u been playing those levels (10:22 am) shark :yup (10:22 am) shark :was up all night (10:22 am) joeytsa :nice little bounce on TSLA (10:23 am) regatta :WCRX (10:29 am) joeytsa :AAPL lod (10:31 am) joeytsa :early lunch, see you in 45 (10:31 am) zentrader :TSLA jsut keeps giving today :) (10:31 am) zentrader :anyone catch that short run ? (10:35 am) Ed :joey had some of the manti teo puts (10:46 am) Ed :u will notice bounces get more shallow (10:49 am) Ed :TSLA (10:53 am) murano :AAPL (10:58 am) zentrader :wow AAPL. am on the sidelines tho (11:01 am) zentrader :still getting lower highs and lower lows on TSLA short (11:09 am) shark :gotta love it - TSLA bullshort (11:10 am) joeytsa :JCP vol spike (11:10 am) shark ::) (11:11 am) shark :sometimes easier to grab some puts (11:11 am) zentrader :enjoy the ride up on TSLA (11:11 am) shark :naked calls are good too. like to close those by end of day, though (11:12 am) joeytsa :LVS (11:12 am) zentrader :you trying to get me in trouble Joey :) (11:13 am) joeytsa :not me :) (11:13 am) zentrader :lol (11:16 am) joeytsa :/CL got whacked (11:16 am) joeytsa :go to lunch and all hell breaks loose haha (11:18 am) joeytsa :those AAPL 450 puts dbled in 10 minutes (11:20 am) shark ::) (11:20 am) shark :wall street gremlins trade when you go to lunch, joey (11:24 am) joeytsa :yeah, GMCR got ugly haha (11:26 am) joeytsa :another nice bounce on TSLA (11:29 am) joeytsa :missed nice move in /NG from R1 to R2 (11:31 am) joeytsa :TSLA testing $84 res now (11:35 am) murano :Watching SCTY (11:35 am) joeytsa :thx Mitch (11:36 am) shark :where do you like to position naked calls, Mitch? ATM? (11:37 am) murano :If you took SCTY long would sell some here (11:37 am) joeytsa :i do them from vegas shark haha (11:38 am) shark :lol (11:38 am) joeytsa :nice one murano (11:39 am) joeytsa :TSLA pushing $87 (11:40 am) joeytsa :tightten TSLA (11:40 am) joeytsa :dont want to give much back (11:41 am) joeytsa :it stopped me (11:41 am) joeytsa :DDD trying to hold $47 (11:41 am) murano :DDD (11:43 am) joeytsa :ALXN hod, slow trickle up to $110 possibly (11:44 am) murano :Out all SCTY (11:46 am) joeytsa :nice trade murano (11:47 am) murano :Thanks joey, you beat me on DDD (11:47 am) joeytsa :only counts if i actually take the trade haha (11:48 am) joeytsa :TSLA fight at $85 (11:48 am) murano :I am out 3/4 now (11:48 am) joeytsa :took small loss on that failed bounce a couple minutes back on TSLA (11:49 am) joeytsa :time for a revenge trade haha (11:49 am) shark :;) (11:49 am) joeytsa :i saw DDD, went another way (11:50 am) joeytsa :SSYS trying to hold $90 (11:50 am) Ed :hey joey did u have up 5minute trendline drawn on TSLA (11:50 am) joeytsa :not drawn, but had the 5min up on another monitor (11:51 am) joeytsa :gave nice pullback to ma on the 5min (11:51 am) murano :Looking for 48.25 area las t1/4 of DDD (11:54 am) joeytsa :watching this $85-87 TSLA range now (11:56 am) joeytsa :keep eye on 1543 /ES support level (11:58 am) joeytsa :too slow on those TSLA puts (11:59 am) skydiver :joey . . who do you use for getting your puts? I am still learning options (11:59 am) murano :Stopped last 1/4 DDD (12:00 pm) joeytsa :tradestation (12:00 pm) skydiver :gotcha - thanks (12:00 pm) joeytsa :i also have accounts with schwab and optionxpress..rarely use them anymore though (12:00 pm) joeytsa :schwab bought out opx, but they are still seperate accts..but can be linked (12:02 pm) joeytsa :sky: for me, the hardest thing about options is knowing which strike to use (12:03 pm) shark :have to ask a few questions to get to that answer, joey (12:03 pm) skydiver :joey - thnx - lots to learn on options (12:03 pm) joeytsa :yes, and you have been a big hel[p, thank you (12:03 pm) shark ::) (12:03 pm) joeytsa :basic options are easy overall (12:03 pm) shark :keep asking questions... (12:04 pm) joeytsa :im new to the whole daytrading them (12:04 pm) shark :strike can depend on time horizon... (12:04 pm) shark :also how much delta you want (12:04 pm) skydiver :ok . . . keep asking questions is good :) (12:04 pm) joeytsa :swings, covered calls, bull put/bear call spreads arent too complicated (12:04 pm) zentrader :so TSLA was officially the trade of the day for me (multiple trades on both sides) . Great stuff (12:04 pm) skydiver :nice zen (12:05 pm) joeytsa :nice zen, its been a good one past few days (12:05 pm) joeytsa :stop travelling and trade with us haha (12:05 pm) shark :nice zen, me too on TSLA (12:05 pm) Ed :yea zen TSLA ben play since last thursday (12:05 pm) joeytsa :aint gonna make no money taking pics of you on the great wall of china :) (12:05 pm) skydiver :yes . . I did well with it a few times this week. (12:06 pm) zentrader :hahaha (12:06 pm) joeytsa :SCTY,GMCR and the other big names have been nice (12:07 pm) skydiver :I may have to retire so have more time to trade stocks :) (12:07 pm) shark :awesome sky! :) (12:07 pm) zentrader :yeah, I was looking to trade SCTY and DDD but could not find shares to short (12:07 pm) joeytsa :good idea, but you cant retire..your boss wont let you :) (12:08 pm) skydiver :how did you know joey :) (12:08 pm) joeytsa :thats when puts come in handy (12:08 pm) joeytsa :im just really slow with options, i tend to think stock first..its a mind thing (12:08 pm) skydiver :yes, that's main reason I want to learn options to get puts when I can't find short a stock (12:08 pm) shark :exactly (12:09 pm) zentrader :yep (12:09 pm) shark :also, if you are long puts/calls, you have some stops built in (12:09 pm) joeytsa :and can only lose your premium (12:09 pm) skydiver :frustrating to see a great short, call it correct and can not pull the trigger due to no shares available to short (12:09 pm) shark :yeah, happens too often (12:09 pm) skydiver :losing only premium sounds good (12:10 pm) skydiver :right shark (12:10 pm) joeytsa :one big negative on options... (12:10 pm) murano :AMBA (12:10 pm) joeytsa :you might get that $4 short on a stock, but the option might only move $1.30 for example (12:10 pm) shark :you have to pick a different delta, joey (12:11 pm) joeytsa :right, which then affects premium..thats where i am trying to get faster (12:11 pm) joeytsa :again, i look at the stock first, tehn the option (12:11 pm) shark :higher delta, or double up on lower detlas (12:12 pm) joeytsa :yeah (12:12 pm) skydiver :thanks shark -- will study this a bit more (12:12 pm) shark :since they are additive (12:12 pm) shark :ATM contracts have 50 delta (12:13 pm) shark :so they move .50 per 1.00 move in stock, roughly (12:13 pm) shark :volatility premium can throw a wrench in that (12:13 pm) shark :sometimes (12:13 pm) joeytsa :right (12:15 pm) joeytsa :i tend to like the slightly itm options better (12:16 pm) shark :for a quick trade, that can be better, yeah (12:16 pm) shark :depends on price target, and length to hold (12:17 pm) skydiver :let's see . . . my average hold time is . . .maybe 3 minutes? (12:17 pm) joeytsa :right, also trying to get quicker from goign from 1 call strike price to looking at the reversal put strike to use (12:17 pm) shark :yep (12:18 pm) zentrader :have a great night everyone! (12:18 pm) skydiver :take care zen (12:18 pm) joeytsa :AAPL today for example on that big drop and bounce etc (12:18 pm) joeytsa :bye zen (12:18 pm) shark :bye zen (12:19 pm) Ed :c ya zen (12:20 pm) joeytsa :TSLA des tri on 1min? (12:21 pm) shark :TSLA 90 calls, went from 9.40 high, to 2.06 currently (12:21 pm) joeytsa :wow (12:23 pm) shark :catch 3 points of that move on 10 contracts and kabooom, a 1/2 mortgate payment (12:24 pm) joeytsa ::) (12:25 pm) Ed :shark must live in museum (12:26 pm) shark :? (12:26 pm) Ed :palatial estate. 10 contracts 3 points (12:26 pm) shark :lol (12:27 pm) shark :yeah, 6k/month buys a lot where you live (12:27 pm) Ed :and its only paying 1/2 ur mtg. LOL (12:27 pm) shark ::) (12:27 pm) Ed :true (12:28 pm) shark :it's 4.3 months payment on my vegas 4k sq ft place (12:28 pm) shark :;) (12:28 pm) Ed ::) (12:29 pm) shark :some consolidation here on USD/JPY (12:29 pm) murano :Now that I am out of DDD it's up to 48.60 (12:29 pm) shark :DDD usually rough ride, murano. nice try (12:32 pm) victor51 :Thanks Murano Amba' (12:32 pm) murano :Happy to help Victor (12:36 pm) joeytsa :/ES back to 1647 (12:41 pm) murano :QCOR at R3 (12:45 pm) joeytsa :AMZN hod (12:45 pm) joeytsa :that was a nice run on QCOR (12:50 pm) joeytsa :fun day (12:50 pm) joeytsa :Thanks Mitch,Ed,Diosna, everyone (12:50 pm) joeytsa :have a great day, see you all tomorrow..see if /ES gets final push to 1650 (12:51 pm) Ed :c ya joey (12:51 pm) joeytsa :we all just try to help each other out
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