Chat Highlights From 04/10/2012

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[06:53 am] Ed : covering 3/4 IOC short
[07:03 am] Ed : covering 3/4 CRK short
[09:19 am] Ed : reducing 3/4 MAN long
[09:20 am] Ed : reducing 3/4 SIG long
[06:12 am] Ed : good morning all
[06:20 am] Brent : Good morning
[06:31 am] Brent : watching VVUS for a bounce
[06:32 am] Ed : BIDU breakn out, see ifget pullback to 150.13 and hold
[06:32 am] Brent : watching FAST for a bounce
[06:33 am] Brent : watching GOLD for a bounce
[06:33 am] Brent : watching MW for a bounce
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching SODA for short
[06:34 am] Ed : monitor IOC for short
[06:35 am] Brent : watching BBY for a short
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching VMW for short
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watchign LQDT for top to short
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching STJ for top to short
[06:37 am] Brent : watching LVS for a bounce
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching VVUS closer for bottom
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching YPF for bottom to buy
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching SLXP for bottom to buy
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching LVS for bottom to buy, maybe low 59
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watchign JAZZ for top to short
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching SM for top to short
[06:40 am] Mitch K: watching CRK for top to short
[06:41 am] Mitch K: watching IVN for top to short
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching STJ for top to short again today
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching CREE for top to short
[06:47 am] Mitch K: yes they are i[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching Oii for long, i am pretty sure the last two digits are ii, not LL
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching IMOS for top to short
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching LH for top
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider selling YPF and watch for short on top of this bounce
[06:49 am] Mitch K: IMOS lower vol[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching for short on VVUS
[06:50 am] Mitch K: consider selling VVUS if long
[06:50 am] Mitch K: STJ toppy
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching HEAT for short soon
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching JOY for short soon
[06:53 am] Mitch K: watching PVR for top to short, might take awhile
[06:56 am] Ed : monitoring CRK for short
[06:57 am] Mitch K: watching WPRT for top to short'
[06:59 am] Mitch K: watching OPTR for bottom, will take awhile to bottom
[07:02 am] Mitch K: missed top in TDG for short but watching for rebound for short entry
[07:02 am] Mitch K: watching ASH for top to short soon
[07:02 am] Mitch K: looking for 39.25 area to cover STJ, be flexible
[07:06 am] Mitch K: monitor AIG for trades today
[07:11 am] Mitch K: watching CHK for bottom to buy
[07:20 am] Mitch K: sorry
[07:20 am] Brent : watching BBY for a bounce
[07:20 am] Mitch K: idcc[07:26 am] Mitch K: watching IACI for bottom
[07:27 am] Mitch K: watching RRC for top to shortr[07:28 am] Mitch K: watching WCG for bottom to buy
[07:28 am] Mitch K: watching SLXP for bottom, no hurry
[07:30 am] Mitch K: bouncy now
[07:30 am] Mitch K: watch CNC for bottom
[07:40 am] Mitch K: watchign ENDP for bottom to buy
[07:44 am] Mitch K: looking for just under $42 for CNC
[07:44 am] Brent : watching URI for a bounce
[07:57 am] Brent : I need to reboot
[08:05 am] Mitch K: CNC a little toppy here 41.52 area, consider reducing long
[08:07 am] Mitch K: yeah id close CNC if long
[08:22 am] Mitch K: watching ENDP for bottom again, first one was a trade failure
[08:29 am] Mitch K: start tracking ARLP, volatile last two days
[08:32 am] Mitch K: also watching HEAT for short
[08:32 am] Mitch K: BVN another stock worth watching for a short if more upside first
[08:59 am] Mitch K: watching TSLA for a possible long
[09:02 am] Mitch K: also watching BWLD
[09:02 am] Mitch K: monitoring PNRA
[09:03 am] Mitch K: watchign EQIX for bottom
[09:03 am] Mitch K: watchign RVBD, like chart pattern,
[09:03 am] Mitch K: looking for a bounce in stocks along with market indexes
[09:05 am] Ed : monitoring for long SIG
[09:07 am] Ed : also monitoring MAN for long 41.92 area
[09:10 am] Ed : ditto what Mitch said:: looking for a bounce in stocks along with market indexes
[09:11 am] Mitch K: most stocks should bounce when market rebounds, Nasdaq at low of day
[09:11 am] Mitch K: watching WYNN dropping, looking for bounce
[09:12 am] Mitch K: the no-name stocks dont respond as much on a bounce
[09:12 am] Mitch K: watch for larger and popular stocks to bounce with market
[09:17 am] Mitch K: should get a bounce soon
[09:26 am] Mitch K: BWLD bounce looking good, should get over 85
[09:26 am] Mitch K: THe nasdaq bouncing first
[09:26 am] Mitch K: starting to see bounces
[09:27 am] Mitch K: WYNN bounce failing
[09:27 am] Mitch K: RVBD starting, EQIX trying
[09:29 am] Mitch K: SPY starting to bounce, SPY is the SP 500 etf[09:44 am] Mitch K: weak bounce in indexes so far, its trying another surge up now, BWLD has held up well
[10:03 am] Mitch K: RVBD, BWLD looking better on bounce
[10:03 am] Mitch K: not saying anything about the trade quality, just alerting
[10:03 am] Mitch K: FSIN dropping hard
[10:07 am] Ed : Muddy Waters commenting in negative on FSIN
[10:09 am] Mitch K: ok if Muddy mentioned it and it bounced, i would close your long
[10:10 am] Mitch K: Muddy Waters has a long track record of being correct,
[10:11 am] Mitch K: is FSIN chinese stock?
[10:12 am] Mitch K: wrong keyboard, wrong brain
[10:12 am] Mitch K: sory[10:12 am] Mitch K: fsin[10:12 am] Mitch K: fsin[10:13 am] Mitch K: Muddy likes to evaluate the CHinese stocks that are weak. he hurt that forestry one, what symbol was that?
[10:13 am] Mitch K: right, it sout of Beijing
[10:14 am] Mitch K: i thought it was Sino Forest
[10:15 am] Mitch K: ok its a pink sheet stock now, he killed that one, SNOFF
[10:23 am] Mitch K: ok on the chart of the left, the WYNN alert, you see how it didnt have much power, pretty much followed the market
[10:24 am] Mitch K: now on BWLD, the chart on the right, didnt fail, just kept powering up, stronger than the indexes and stronger than WYNN.
[10:24 am] Mitch K: so lets say you by and if in the following 2 candles after you bought it and it turns down, you should be thinking it might be a trade failure
[10:25 am] Mitch K: yeah my chart is transparent a little qwert, i dragged it from teh etrade platform to the projector
[10:25 am] Mitch K: so you want to mark in your head when a trade fails you should be getting out by selling at offer, dont have to panic sell most of the time
[10:34 am] Ed : out all MAN long
[10:50 am] Brent : watching BWLD
[11:06 am] Mitch K: you guys watching FSIN?
[11:20 am] Mitch K: looks like FSIN halted
[11:53 am] Brent : SPY coming into trendline resistance
[01:00 pm] Brent : Have a good night, see you in the morning
[01:03 pm] Ed : Have a great night

[06:07 am] mikewd2 -: good morning traders, Ed
[06:09 am] mikewd2 -: Instagram only has 13 employees - wow
[06:09 am] mikewd2 -: reminds me of the dot com bubble
[06:10 am] khall : good morning
[06:11 am] doji : Good morning fellas!
[06:11 am] mikewd2 -: hi doji[06:11 am] joeytsa : Good morning Ed, traders
[06:11 am] joeytsa : agreed mike
[06:12 am] doji : Hi Mike, Joey
[06:12 am] joeytsa : only difference is that Instagram actually has an office i believe haha[06:12 am] mikewd2 -: i guess for the 13 employees - lol[06:12 am] doji : Euro down, catching up with with WS's yesterday tumble
[06:12 am] mikewd2 -: wouldn't supprise if they telecommute
[06:13 am] eyes : Good Morning
[06:13 am] joeytsa : watching VPHM,AKRX,WPRT,SNE in addition to the regulars
[06:13 am] joeytsa : not sure if today will be a lot of action or tip-toeing around waiting for Alcoa to announce
[06:14 am] joeytsa : should set a decent tone though, thurs/fri bigger names announce
[06:14 am] doji : Market is in "caution" mode at this point
[06:14 am] eddy : hello all
[06:15 am] doji : Hi Eddy
[06:15 am] joeytsa : will also watch CREE,CALL
[06:16 am] doji : AA will be the pivot point for this market to move higher or correct (hardly?)
[06:16 am] ogking : GM traders
*** Brent , Welcome to the TradeStocksAmerica Live Trading Room
[06:16 am] joeytsa : if so doji, probably more psychologically
[06:17 am] joeytsa : this market has been more tech moved
[06:17 am] joeytsa : ES trending down past few hours support near 1373, res overnight around 1381
[06:17 am] mikewd2 -: VVUS moving up
[06:18 am] mikewd2 -: FDA delayed some decision from April 17 to July 17
[06:18 am] mikewd2 -: yet its up - go figure
[06:18 am] scalpman : Gm all!
[06:18 am] joeytsa : Nokia talk on cnbc, coincidently as i was reading a positive nokia article on my homepage
[06:20 am] lisas : gm all
[06:20 am] khall : gm lisa[06:21 am] eddy : hello brent[06:21 am] joeytsa : lisa lisa :)
[06:21 am] eddy : hi lisa[06:21 am] lisas : joey joey[06:21 am] joeytsa : INFY gap down also
[06:21 am] joeytsa : gm Brent
[06:23 am] joeytsa : will also watch BIDU for a move over $150..not saying it will, just setting an alert
[06:24 am] doji : Mie, are you watching VVUS for Short?
[06:24 am] doji : Mike
[06:25 am] doji : 9:16 (Dow Jones) Vivus (VVUS) shares recovering last night's losses and more premarket. Shares initially tumbled -- off more than 8% after-hours -- on news that the FDA extended its review of VVUS's weight-loss drug Qnexa by three months. But analysts Tuesday morning tell market to calm down-- it's "not a biggie," says Cowen. Firm believes FDA wants to approve an anti-obesity compound, and Qnexa is "clearly the safest and most efficacious" of those under review by the agency. JMP Securities also optimistic, saying it interprets the delay as a positive that the FDA remains focused on finding an appropriate way to introduce Qnexa to the market. VVUS up 2.9% at $23.58 premarket.
[06:25 am] scalpman : BIDU 150.20
[06:25 am] amma : gm all :o)
[06:26 am] joeytsa : thx doji[06:26 am] joeytsa : yeah scalp
[06:27 am] doji : Keep an eye in DANG from yesterday
[06:27 am] joeytsa : i didnt jump in
[06:27 am] skydiver : gm all
[06:28 am] doji : VVUS moving down
[06:29 am] mikewd2 -: no shares to short at TS on VVUS
[06:29 am] victor51 : gm all
[06:29 am] joeytsa : VVUS sittin on support
[06:29 am] doji : Tiem to rock!
[06:29 am] joeytsa : YPF pulled back
[06:31 am] doji : VVUS S from pre-market
[06:31 am] mikewd2 -: SODA spike
[06:31 am] doji : all out VVUS
[06:32 am] doji : yes!
[06:32 am] doji : W#atching FSLR
[06:32 am] doji : Watching DANG
[06:33 am] doji : Watching LNKD
[06:34 am] joeytsa : LNKD testing $100
[06:34 am] joeytsa : trail BIDU up
[06:35 am] joeytsa : all out BIDU
[06:36 am] doji : BAC testing 9
[06:38 am] mikewd2 -: BBY CEO resigned
[06:39 am] doji : SPY truned positive
[06:41 am] joeytsa : LNKD nice push after cons @ $100
[06:43 am] doji : FSLR nice move up again....
[06:43 am] skydiver : RIMM - take over chatter circulates again
[06:45 am] doji : DANG dropping nicely
[06:46 am] joeytsa : #'s coming up in a 13 minutes
[06:46 am] joeytsa : tighten stop if long LNKD
[06:48 am] skydiver : JOY - take over chatter
[06:48 am] doji : What numbers Joey?
[06:49 am] joeytsa : WPRT up $1 from low
[06:49 am] joeytsa : doji: IBD/TIPP econ optimism, WHolesale inv m/m
[06:50 am] joeytsa : BIDU coming into support
[06:51 am] doji : Thanks Joey
[06:51 am] joeytsa : :)
[06:52 am] joeytsa : SINA, pull back from dbl top
[06:53 am] joeytsa : WLT testing $60
[06:53 am] pirate : watching CRK
[06:54 am] doji : NFLX double bottom
[06:54 am] joeytsa : nice one pirate
[06:54 am] joeytsa : LNKD trying to hold $100
[06:55 am] doji : 2nd leg long in FSLR
[06:56 am] mikewd2 -: Joy Global moves up on renewed takeover chatter
[06:57 am] joeytsa : they need it mike, ugly past 2 months
[06:57 am] doji : Watching FSLR for top
[06:59 am] joeytsa : WPRT testing prev hi
[07:00 am] joeytsa : LNKD held $100 for now, see if makes new high or lower high
[07:01 am] joeytsa : AAPL market cap $600B
[07:02 am] joeytsa : tighten stop if long SINA
[07:03 am] doji : big drop in the SPY
[07:04 am] joeytsa : nice Ed
[07:04 am] Ed : thx
[07:05 am] skydiver : all out of CRK S - thnx Pirate and Ed
[07:08 am] joeytsa : ES testing lows
[07:10 am] mikewd2 -: BBY short finally started to work out, unfortunately i was stopped
[07:11 am] khall : Mike, it was a trickeler yesterday. Drip drip all day
[07:12 am] mikewd2 -: need a higher stop but was worried it would take off
[07:12 am] khall : Yeah
[07:12 am] khall : always a concern
[07:16 am] mikewd2 -: CHK has support at 21.30'ish
[07:16 am] joeytsa : econ optimism up slightly, wholesale m/m missed
[07:17 am] khall : thnx mike, joey
[07:17 am] skydiver : thnx mike on CHK info
[07:19 am] joeytsa : BIDU sitting on lower support now
[07:20 am] joeytsa : just a guess, but if ES loses 1370, things might get a bit ugly
[07:21 am] mikewd2 -: ah, BBY would have been nice
[07:21 am] joeytsa : BBY is toast
[07:22 am] mikewd2 -: CNBC kept talking up the CEO resignation was good - and made me tighten my stop
[07:22 am] joeytsa : might get a dozen or so brick&morters throwing in the white towel
[07:22 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[07:22 am] joeytsa : i hope not..but some just cant keep up with tech
[07:23 am] joeytsa : survival of the fittest
[07:24 am] joeytsa : GOOG reports on th, JPM/WFC on friday...any negative talk may set a tone and vice versa
[07:25 am] joeytsa : the %50R, which is like Mitch's t2108 is on a sell signal, in column of o's sitting @ 39.55 as of yestersdays close
[07:26 am] joeytsa : been a long time since this low
[07:26 am] mikewd2 -: VIX 19.41
[07:26 am] khall : hmmm
[07:27 am] joeytsa : NYSE BPI just slipped under 70, still trying to hold on
[07:28 am] joeytsa : BBY into prev lo res area
[07:29 am] joeytsa : JOY moving
[07:31 am] joeytsa : crude @ $102
[07:33 am] skydiver : SWN - take over chatter
[07:34 am] joeytsa : EUR investor confidence number terrible..-14.7 with -7.7 forecast
[07:35 am] murano : DANG
[07:36 am] mikewd2 -: 3 min fade on DANG
[07:36 am] joeytsa : SPY not far from 50ma
[07:37 am] skydiver : looks interesting Mike on DANG
[07:38 am] joeytsa : LNKD bouncy today
[07:38 am] totora : VRTX bounce ??
[07:44 am] skydiver : SWN - finally came down - S 29.41 - covered 3/4 29.19
[07:44 am] mikewd2 -: nice sky
[07:45 am] skydiver : :) -- 4 trades 4 wins so fas[07:45 am] skydiver : far
[07:45 am] joeytsa : great trading sky !!
[07:45 am] skydiver : pocket change trades -- but wins :)
[07:46 am] joeytsa : if you dont want it... haha[07:46 am] skydiver : :)
[07:47 am] joeytsa : vix @ 19.20
[07:48 am] joeytsa : of AA,GOOG,JPM,WFC...whisper numbers are all slightly higher than concensus estimates
[07:49 am] joeytsa : see you in 20
[07:50 am] mikewd2 -: CHK L not working out, but still in it
[07:50 am] skydiver : yeah mike - I put an order in for CHK but didn't get filled - Was going to go short
[07:51 am] skydiver : excuse me -- Long
[07:51 am] mikewd2 -: u did good - lol[07:51 am] skydiver : lucky I guess
[07:52 am] mikewd2 -: looks like 21.02 might be next support
[07:52 am] skydiver : yes - that is what I was thinking Mike
[07:53 am] skydiver : out last 1/4 on SWN Short
[07:55 am] scalpman : URI Fizzled...
[08:03 am] skydiver : TSLA - chatter that BMW talking with TSLA - take over chatter
[08:06 am] skydiver : My time is up -- see you all tomorrow morning
[08:07 am] Mitch K: hey skydiver
[08:08 am] Mitch K: when you say your time is up, that sounds like you are going to die soon, maybe from a Western movie where the bad guy says "Your time is up"
[08:08 am] mikewd2 -: CHK breaking down
[08:18 am] eddy : endp lod[08:23 am] joeytsa : ES trying to hold 1368
[08:23 am] mikewd2 -: ARLP from yesterday is recovering nicely
[08:24 am] joeytsa : yeah it is
[08:24 am] mikewd2 -: meant to watch it and forgot
[08:25 am] joeytsa : same here
[08:25 am] joeytsa : i still most likely would not have played it
[08:26 am] joeytsa : not enough volume for me
[08:35 am] doji : One for one minute... closing 1/2 of my shorts in VVUS, SLB and DANG
[08:35 am] doji : back
[08:36 am] doji : See ya in 15 minutes... back to work
[08:38 am] eddy : Thank you all
[08:38 am] eddy : see you tom
[08:39 am] Ed : c ya doji, eddy
[08:39 am] scalpman : Bye eddy
[08:42 am] murano : GMCR
[08:47 am] joeytsa : CMI trying to hold $113 now
[08:47 am] joeytsa : NFLX $105, GS $116 other watch areas
[08:56 am] joeytsa : tightent NFLX if short
[08:56 am] joeytsa : see you all later
[09:08 am] mikewd2 -: IDCC tanking
[09:12 am] scalpman : Time to go....6/7 today...Thanks to TSA great calls.
[09:12 am] scalpman : See you tomorrow.
[09:13 am] Ed : c ya scalp. nice trading
[09:13 am] khall : great trading scalp
[09:14 am] scalpman : Thanks Ed
[09:14 am] scalpman : Thanks khall[09:15 am] scalpman : Scalpman has left the building!
[09:21 am] dmitry : test
[09:21 am] dmitry : test
[09:21 am] eyes : Thanks Ed
[09:22 am] Ed : no problem
[09:33 am] shark : GLD moving quickly
[09:36 am] mikewd2 -: WFT bounced off 13.35 support nicely
[09:43 am] qwert : watching OPTR
[09:58 am] mhaus : CP alert
[10:02 am] eyes : cp good earninga[10:02 am] mikewd2 -: Canadian Pacific sees Q1 EPS C$0.80-C$0.83, consensus C$0.65
[10:05 am] dmitry : test
[10:06 am] Ed : i c ur test dmitry[10:10 am] joeytsa : decent action today
[10:10 am] shark : :)
[10:10 am] doji : ack for 15 mniutes... bill sell of in the market
[10:11 am] joeytsa : i read this morning that if ES lost 1370 it would run down to 1358
[10:11 am] shark : you are typing with an accent again, doji[10:11 am] joeytsa : decent call
[10:11 am] shark : would or could?
[10:11 am] doji : Who took NFLX short?
[10:11 am] shark : I took PCLN short
[10:11 am] qwert : trying to remember the last symbol that muddy waters had a call on? anybody?
[10:11 am] doji : hahah Sharky[10:11 am] joeytsa : i had it earlier doji[10:12 am] joeytsa : they said would haha[10:12 am] doji : Great!. Happy for you guys....
[10:12 am] joeytsa : didnt get that last move down though..was in teh gym
[10:12 am] lisas : lol[10:12 am] shark : sounds chinese, does that count?
[10:12 am] doji : no ploblem mitch[10:13 am] Ed : he speaky german[10:13 am] lisas : lol[10:13 am] joeytsa : hah
[10:13 am] lisas : Yes, but what does he type?
[10:13 am] doji : no ploblem[10:13 am] Ed : engrish[10:13 am] doji : chinese english[10:14 am] doji : no ploblem[10:14 am] lisas : engwish[10:14 am] joeytsa : Mitch: was it SINO ??
[10:14 am] shark : ;)
[10:14 am] lisas : with the calls he give us, he can type speak anyway he wants:)
[10:14 am] doji : Wha brought the market dwon? any news?
[10:15 am] joeytsa : yeah i only need to understand 4 letters haha[10:15 am] qwert : i think so joey
[10:15 am] shark : overbought, doji[10:15 am] shark : plus europe[10:15 am] joeytsa : curtain pulled back on the wizard of oz[10:16 am] doji : SNOFF, yes, one of our fellas said he made $40K....
[10:16 am] doji : don't remember his name
[10:17 am] doji : CP
[10:17 am] doji : wrong keyboard
[10:17 am] joeytsa : AMZN still downtrending[10:17 am] doji : What is the stock on the chart please?
[10:17 am] Brent : CP
[10:17 am] joeytsa : CP dojit[10:17 am] doji : Thanks!
[10:18 am] murano : LULU
[10:18 am] shark : thx murano! awesome
[10:19 am] mikewd2 -: Fushi Copperweld presents high risk of fraud, Muddy Waters says
[10:20 am] mhaus : LQDT
[10:20 am] qwert : watching lvs[10:20 am] mikewd2 -: sorry didn't see Mitch posted the FSIN note
[10:20 am] shark : LNKD not off much today
[10:22 am] joeytsa : 1354 is support now wow
[10:22 am] joeytsa : werent we at 1430 area a week or 2 ago?
[10:22 am] shark : good info to keep in mind, joey
[10:24 am] qwert : is the chart transparent for anyone else
[10:25 am] jsn13 : Yup. qwert....
[10:25 am] lisas : yes, just trying to figure that out, is that etrade? Didn't know you could do that
[10:26 am] jsn13 : so means Mitch u want direct power up for a bounce right?
[10:26 am] joeytsa : 5 straight down days and now a flush...
[10:26 am] joeytsa : might set up a bounce for tomorrow, esp if AA blows up
[10:26 am] jsn13 : Mitch u would cut it off even b4 it hits ur stop below the low?
[10:28 am] joeytsa : my madscan is absolutely blowing up today 127K signals so far
[10:29 am] Ed : if a stock is not acting right, thats reason enogh to exit even if it does not hit ur stop. This has helped me overall
[10:30 am] Ed : everyone is different though
[10:30 am] joeytsa : smart Ed
[10:30 am] joeytsa : no need to hold for max pain...acting wrong then get out
[10:30 am] Ed : true
[10:33 am] Ed : downside is u exit, and it takes off without ya, but Im willing to live with that, cuz I feell like my system will give me my share of winners to more than make up for the wishing or should 've would ve could ve[10:35 am] eyes : is Cp a good support here
[10:39 am] joeytsa : makes sense Ed
[10:40 am] joeytsa : NFLX fighting to hold $102
[10:40 am] Ed : just my .02
[10:41 am] joeytsa : if it takes off, nothing says you cant get back in
[10:41 am] Ed : true
[10:42 am] joeytsa : as long as nothing has changed in your entry technique
[10:42 am] Ed : my lack of patience causes me to move on to next idea
[10:43 am] Ed : but thats the great part of trading finding what works best 4ur style
[10:43 am] joeytsa : same here...only time i get those is if its on one of my flock
[10:43 am] joeytsa : exactly
[10:49 am] joeytsa : saw earlier, Fitch dg'd las vegas' debt rating from stable to negative
[10:49 am] mhaus : BWLD
[10:51 am] eyes : FSIN buig move
[10:55 am] victor51 : Brent, Thanks for BWLD
[10:57 am] Ed : nice one Brent
[10:58 am] mhaus : FSIN alert
[10:58 am] eyes : FSIN another big move
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: FSIN not available for short at TS
[11:00 am] joeytsa : yeah mike, on L and CB list @ lightspeed[11:06 am] mikewd2 -: yep, but couldn't short
[11:07 am] victor51 : Mitch, it was great day after a long time. I am more successful on short than long side for long
[11:08 am] Mitch K: nice to hear victor. a lot of traders tend to be oriented in one direction or another but ideally its best to be proficient at both
[11:12 am] mikewd2 -: Ed, have you been using the chart trading on TS?
[11:13 am] Ed : not yet, how bout you?
[11:13 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, just started - its drag and drop is pretty nice.
[11:13 am] victor51 : Thanks Mitch.
[11:13 am] eyes : DANG
[11:14 am] Ed : have to give it a try
[11:14 am] mikewd2 -: you enable it by clicking in the chart and selecting chart trading
[11:15 am] Ed : thx
[11:18 am] eyes : 10 trades 6 loss 3win 1 be -150 for the day I am done for the day see you all manana[11:19 am] Ed : c ya eyes
[11:19 am] khall : bye eyes - see ya tomorrow
[11:19 am] Brent : have a good night eyes
[11:19 am] mikewd2 -: Rumor: Dangdang moves off lows on renewed takeover speculation
[11:21 am] mikewd2 -: i see it still trading Mitch
[11:22 am] victor51 : FSIN is too wild for me to handle
[11:22 am] joeytsa : FSIN not halted
[11:22 am] joeytsa : at least yet
[11:24 am] joeytsa : Santorum throwing in the towel
[11:24 am] lisas : Pa internal polls must be bad
[11:24 am] mikewd2 -: about time
[11:24 am] joeytsa : no kidding
[11:25 am] joeytsa : FFIV breaking down
[11:26 am] joeytsa : now we just need Romney to quit and get a real candidate to step up
[11:27 am] Ed : Colin Powell
[11:27 am] joeytsa : Ed, you live close enough to DC..you would look good in the white house..with a suit :)
[11:27 am] Ed : hmmm
[11:27 am] joeytsa : get RG3 as your running mate :)
[11:27 am] mhaus : Sarah Palin?
[11:28 am] Mitch K: Powell said he doesnt want to go through what it takes to try for President, said that 5 years ago
[11:28 am] joeytsa : seems very stressful
[11:28 am] Ed : yea, I recall, would have been great choice though
[11:30 am] mhaus : Powell would have been a good candidate if the Bush administration had not screwed his reputation
[11:30 am] mhaus : He lost credibility when he had to admit that there were no WMDs
[11:30 am] Ed : my opinion, Mark Warner is conservative democrat, if he ran indedpendant. Better choice than what is out there
[11:31 am] Ed : he was scapegoat, Powell
[11:32 am] lisas : The problems with WMD, is everyone thought they existed. Saddam WANTED the other countries around him to think he had them. Not often heard, was that he had the scientists and equipment to quickly produce bio weapons
[11:32 am] mhaus : We had Powell as a keynote speaker in a seminar in my previous company. He really impressed everyone.
[11:32 am] mhaus : The guy would have made a very good president
[11:32 am] joeytsa : still think he shipped them to syria[11:32 am] Ed : very genuine person,
[11:32 am] joeytsa : i like powell
[11:32 am] khall : me too
[11:33 am] lisas : many think that joey, some good evidence also
[11:33 am] joeytsa : iraq had chemical wmd[11:33 am] lisas : he was supposed to allow inspectors to see evidence he had disposed of them, he wouldn't do that
[11:33 am] joeytsa : yep
[11:34 am] joeytsa : sadly i didnt trust hussain anymore than i did bush
[11:34 am] mikewd2 -: DANG moving again
[11:34 am] shark : SPY new lod[11:40 am] Ed : news reporters, most think they are analyst (CNBC)
[11:40 am] joeytsa : half right Ed...ANAL :)
[11:41 am] Ed : lol[11:41 am] joeytsa : like the guys on Fast Money saying today...that now they are worried haha[11:41 am] joeytsa : not worried at 1410
[11:42 am] Ed : she is live from the floor, she must be a trader
[11:42 am] joeytsa : have to check and see what it takes to become an analyst
[11:42 am] khall : LOL right Ed
[11:42 am] Ed : part-time????
[11:42 am] Mitch K: CFA, Certified Financial ANalyst, usually MBA required
[11:43 am] joeytsa : thanks Mitch..never knew
[11:43 am] Ed : thats why they make big $, eduucation[11:43 am] Mitch K: my sister was CFA, her husband is too, Stanford, Harvard. in same family with a trader, can you believe that?
[11:44 am] joeytsa : interesting
[11:44 am] joeytsa : do you listent to them?
[11:44 am] Mitch K: no, they follow the herd, they follow the party line
[11:44 am] joeytsa : gotya[11:45 am] joeytsa : never trusted them
[11:45 am] Mitch K: http://www.jwz.org/blog/2005/07/make-the-pile -higher/
[11:45 am] joeytsa : seemed to me that the base the views off company numbers..which cant alwasy be trusted
[11:45 am] dmitry : test
[11:46 am] Mitch K: this is how they think, sorry to offend any analysts online
[11:46 am] joeytsa : looks like 2001 :)
[11:46 am] khall : need to run - thanks all - see you tomorrow
[11:46 am] joeytsa : lots of new investors are gettig schooled today though
[11:46 am] Mitch K: bye ms hall
[11:46 am] joeytsa : by khall[11:47 am] lisas : bye khall[11:47 am] Ed : c ya khall[11:47 am] joeytsa : all these new players that came in the market at the beginning of the year and seeing nothing but up have probably soiled themselves this week
[11:47 am] Ed : that CFA is no joke to pass, I only finished level 1
[11:48 am] joeytsa : thats because when asked: "how would you recommend this to your clients?" you answered " Buy 1 share" hahah[11:48 am] Ed : lol[11:48 am] Ed : good one joey
[11:49 am] Ed : across broad asset class too
[11:49 am] joeytsa : most also focus on fundamental analysis
[11:49 am] Ed : and modern portfolio theory
[11:50 am] joeytsa : whats mpt?
[11:50 am] joeytsa : diversification?
[11:51 am] Ed : a losing strategy
[11:51 am] joeytsa : good, we need them
[11:52 am] joeytsa : nothing wrong with diversification...its just they usually diversify you in crap
[11:52 am] Ed : basically
[11:52 am] Ed : yep, but when it takes a dive, u just lose money faster
[11:53 am] joeytsa : on top of that, they never tell you when to sell
[11:53 am] Ed : they dont want you too, they want u to double down and triple down
[11:54 am] joeytsa : just hold..its always comes back blah blah[11:54 am] Ed : no stop loss, "hold its for the long term"
[11:54 am] joeytsa : tell that to my worldcom holdings haha[11:57 am] joeytsa : obama getting ready to talk on taxes
[12:00 pm] Ed : "buffet rule"
[12:01 pm] joeytsa : yep
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : be interesting to see if the NYSE BPI flips to o's today..should be close
[12:02 pm] joeytsa : Dow 12720
[12:03 pm] joeytsa : guy on cnbc yesterday was calling for dow 17k
[12:04 pm] joeytsa : PCLN trying hold prev lo
[12:05 pm] shark : broke it, yeah
[12:05 pm] joeytsa : down $23 from highs
[12:05 pm] shark : :)
[12:07 pm] doji : FSLR broke 21
[12:07 pm] shark : there she goes PCLN
[12:08 pm] joeytsa : :)
[12:08 pm] joeytsa : just got stopped
[12:09 pm] shark : stopped? you long?
[12:09 pm] joeytsa : short, stopped for profit
[12:09 pm] shark : nice, good job joey
[12:09 pm] joeytsa : only 100 shares
[12:10 pm] jsn13 : Brent, when you guys developed the 3min fade strategy, did you use the ninjatrader strategy analyzer to backtest the strategy?
[12:10 pm] shark : 100x better than Ed!
[12:10 pm] joeytsa : haha.....still got over 3pts
[12:10 pm] shark : awesome! ;)
[12:11 pm] joeytsa : just didnt feel like putting up $3/4M
[12:11 pm] joeytsa : :)
[12:11 pm] Brent : no, just manually backtested it
[12:11 pm] shark : that's the problem, you got to take the feelings out
[12:12 pm] joeytsa : no feelings..just didnt have $750K to go all in :)
[12:12 pm] jsn13 : how far back did you test it then? Isn't it a lot to test manually?
[12:13 pm] shark : all in on one trade...a bit heavy here
[12:13 pm] joeytsa : :)
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : on high priced stocks i drop share size
[12:14 pm] shark : I like to use options as well
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : esp when i think i will still get multipoint moves
[12:14 pm] joeytsa : yeah i really need to get back into thsoe[12:14 pm] shark : some of the weeklys ATM are pricey though
[12:15 pm] joeytsa : not as pricey as going full shares though
[12:15 pm] shark : but can run 50% real quickly if you get direciton right
[12:15 pm] shark : limited risk if it runs the other way
[12:15 pm] shark : as well
[12:15 pm] joeytsa : right
[12:15 pm] doji : FSLR jumped over 7%
[12:16 pm] shark : PCLN still above 10day ma
[12:16 pm] doji : second day trading FSLR long.... no need to trade for the next weeks I will be travelling
[12:16 pm] doji : yes!
[12:16 pm] shark : WOW, doji!
[12:16 pm] shark : lots of travels for you
[12:17 pm] shark : where to this time?
[12:17 pm] doji : NExt week going to Mexico, then flying to Dubai and then back to Rio....
[12:17 pm] shark : :O
[12:17 pm] shark : skype no good for you?
[12:18 pm] doji : Have my compnary's cellphone, no need for Skype
[12:18 pm] shark : ahhh[12:19 pm] doji : I am tired.... flying so often get you drained...
[12:19 pm] shark : yeahhh[12:19 pm] shark : getting lots of mileage points too
[12:19 pm] doji : and most important, not let me trade so ofen[12:19 pm] joeytsa : nice moves on PCLN
[12:19 pm] doji : yes Sharky...
[12:19 pm] doji : but my wife uses all of them!... hahah[12:20 pm] shark : lol[12:20 pm] joeytsa : love free mileage flights
[12:23 pm] doji : I agree with Joey's comments that after so many days down and the flush today, we should see a rebound in the market tomorrow?
[12:23 pm] joeytsa : i said theres a chance haha[12:23 pm] jsn13 : Ed, did u trade CRK in the am around 6.50 pst....what is the signal for reversal of the short at around 16.40?
[12:23 pm] joeytsa : if AA disappoints all bets off
[12:25 pm] joeytsa : so AA, which has been around forever is hoping they only lose 5cents a share
[12:25 pm] doji : Alcoa (AA), whose report is widely considered the kickoff of the new earnings season, is forecast to swing to a first-quarter loss of 3 cents a share, according to FactSet Research . Adjusted earnings were 28 cents a year ago. Revenue is expected to fall 3% to $5.77 billion .
[12:25 pm] Ed : yes jsn13
[12:25 pm] joeytsa : whisper on them is loss of 6cents
[12:25 pm] doji : so 100% increase in losses
[12:25 pm] Ed : on 1min u had 2 confimring signals
[12:26 pm] joeytsa : doji: my # were concensus estimate per earningswhisper.com
[12:27 pm] Ed : the doji at 9:52est and shooting star @ 9:54, and vol. pushing price into resistance area on daily
[12:27 pm] Ed : vol on 9:51 bar
[12:27 pm] Ed : these are est. times
[12:28 pm] jsn13 : so which bar did u get in with what entry price?
[12:29 pm] doji : Ed, you are a "Monster"....
[12:29 pm] doji : Eddy "Monster" Calls
[12:29 pm] Ed : I cheated, placed entry ahead of trade 16.44
[12:30 pm] Ed : me cheating was aggressive, normally I would be entering on the 9:55 est bar
[12:30 pm] doji : At least you are honest....
[12:30 pm] Ed : lol[12:30 pm] shark : what stock, ed?
[12:30 pm] Ed : CRK
[12:30 pm] Ed : this am
[12:31 pm] shark : ahh, gotcha
[12:31 pm] jsn13 : What??? Ed u have to be consistent.... :-) how u find the level?
[12:32 pm] Ed : I is consistent, but u will learn to "get ahead of trade" also
[12:32 pm] doji : Here the market trying to move up...
[12:33 pm] Ed : I was flexible in price, I was hoping it moved up more so I could add but did not. But I got price from looking at potential areas of resistance
[12:33 pm] Ed : on daily
[12:34 pm] Ed : the only reason I did not add on the 9:54 bar is I could not find my mouse
[12:34 pm] joeytsa : haha[12:34 pm] Ed : sorry 9:55 bar
[12:34 pm] shark : haha[12:35 pm] jsn13 : can
[12:35 pm] jsn13 : typo...
[12:35 pm] Ed : could
[12:35 pm] Ed : maybe
[12:35 pm] Ed : might
[12:35 pm] Ed : typo
[12:36 pm] Ed : just messing with u jsn13
[12:36 pm] jsn13 : so where is the next level that u want to add and where is ur preferred level...
[12:37 pm] jsn13 : haha....nice one....but at that point where is ur stop?
[12:37 pm] Ed : I was lookin at .59, .68, .85
[12:39 pm] Ed : when I moved ahead of trade in case of CRK and had great price, I would have added at .59 but stopped at .63, and reevaluate from sidelines
[12:40 pm] Ed : If I had not gotten ahead of trade, I would have enterred on 9:55 bar and place stopped just over high of day
[12:41 pm] jsn13 : means for ur first entry, u place ur order even b4 the doji and shooting star patterns formed? is it after the first top failed?
[12:42 pm] jsn13 : and where is ur first level of suport to take profit?
[12:42 pm] Ed : all b4, I learned this strategy from Mitch, it is an advanced technique
[12:42 pm] Ed : when ur getting ahead of trade long/short
[12:44 pm] Ed : took it at 20 sma[12:45 pm] Ed : on 1min
[12:46 pm] joeytsa : came right to the vwap @ 7:01 pst[12:46 pm] Ed : sure did
[12:46 pm] jsn13 : did Mitch teach this strategy at the seminar? but why not add at the red bar after the doji whihc shows a lower low?
[12:47 pm] Ed : I wanted too, but could not find mouse, missed entering
[12:47 pm] Ed : He talked about it in trading room over year ago
[12:48 pm] Ed : then I went and butchered it in practice on sim[12:48 pm] qwert : that trading style reminds me of adriano[12:48 pm] doji : MAke sure next time you don;t eat your mouse....
[12:48 pm] jsn13 : Ed can u teach us? Please.....im tired of being a tad early or late....
[12:49 pm] Ed : 2 funny doji[12:49 pm] doji : Cat tates better
[12:49 pm] doji : or dogs if you are in China
[12:50 pm] doji : or guinea pigs if you are in Peru
[12:50 pm] jsn13 : so if u add at the red bar, with a stop above the hod, u would have been stopped out....
[12:50 pm] doji : or armadillos if you live in the Great State of TExas[12:50 pm] shark : INVN new lod[12:51 pm] Ed : no, stop just above hod, so normally if im entering on the 9:55 bar price of 16.23, my stop would have been 16.49
[12:54 pm] joeytsa : Ed what was your first profit target price wise??
[12:54 pm] Ed : for now, I would focus on reading the setup and managing the trade, if these are not mastered it will not matter about getting in trade early
[12:54 pm] Ed : 16.18
[12:55 pm] jsn13 : so means ur predetermined level always comes first, and if the price turns a little b4 the level, u would look for confimration to enter...like ur SIG and MAN trades?
[12:56 pm] Ed : Not sure I understand question
[12:58 pm] Ed : levels as far as support/resistance?
[12:58 pm] jsn13 : liek for MAN trade juz now, u look for 41.92 area but it turned at 42.25 area, u would still go in after u see the doji? yup S/R level that u r interested in...
[12:58 pm] Ed : Exactly,
[12:58 pm] Ed : This is why I always say dont get fixated on price
[12:59 pm] Ed : It would be too easy if it work that way
[12:59 pm] Ed : This is why MJitch always talks about being flexible
[12:59 pm] joeytsa : amen
[12:59 pm] eddy : bye all
[01:00 pm] eddy : i just came back for 10mns
[01:00 pm] joeytsa : being flexible is knowing what you will do no matter which way the stock goes...before you enter the trade
[01:00 pm] joeytsa : bye Brent thx
[01:01 pm] doji : LEt's see how AA reports today
[01:01 pm] victor51 : Thanks Brent..BWLD short was sweet...
[01:01 pm] Ed : agreed joey
[01:02 pm] doji : See ya guys
[01:02 pm] joeytsa : Hope everyone has a great day
[01:03 pm] joeytsa : thank you Mitch, Brent,Ed, traders
[01:03 pm] lisas : bye all
[01:03 pm] lisas : bye all
[01:04 pm] victor51 : Bye Mitch, Brent, Ed
[01:04 pm] jsn13 : ok i guess i see what u mean...thanks Ed....its juz a very small difference in perspective...
[01:04 pm] victor51 : Bye Lisas and Joey
[01:04 pm] joeytsa : later victor
[01:08 pm] Ed : yea jsn13, ur always looking for optimal pricing as to how one comes up with those numbers, but if ur getting good confirmation b4 hand, that the opportunity right in front of you
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