Chat Highlights From 04/09/2014

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(05:45 am) JoeyTSA :early gap down: ISRG,UVXY
(05:46 am) JoeyTSA :early gap up: LNKD,CTCT,FEYE,ASML..also watching YY
(05:49 am) JoeyTSA :/ES 1846,1850,1853+ ; /NQ  3540-3547+
(05:49 am) JoeyTSA :levels /CL 102.55-102.85
(06:10 am) Mitch King:Premarket UP:  TWTR, AA, P, YOKU, ARMH, ASML, FB, LNG, BK, CTCT, FEYE, VOD, SPLK Premarket DOWN:   ISRG, GOLD, AHT, GM,  HALO, ACI, USLV
(06:31 am) Mitch King:ROVI moving up, watching for top to short
(06:31 am) Mitch King:watching CTCT for possible breakout
(06:31 am) Mitch King:watching NXST for uptrend
(06:31 am) JoeyTSA :putting FSLR on radar
(06:31 am) Mitch King:watchign ARUN for uptrend
(06:32 am) Mitch King:watching YOKU for uptrend
(06:32 am) Mitch King:PCLN moving up
(06:32 am) Mitch King:watching WLK
(06:32 am) JoeyTSA :eye on RTN
(06:33 am) Mitch King:PCRX trending up
(06:34 am) Mitch King:monitoring BYI
(06:34 am) Mitch King:monitoring CNW
(06:34 am) JoeyTSA :FEYE for potential breakout
(06:34 am) Mitch King:watching SWFT for short, low priority
(06:35 am) Mitch King:watchign CREE for uptrend
(06:35 am) Mitch King:watching MSM for uptrend
(06:35 am) Mitch King:watching GOLD for bottom, need more selling first
(06:36 am) Mitch King:monitoring CTRP
(06:36 am) Mitch King:watching R for more upside
(06:36 am) JoeyTSA :QCOR strong so far
(06:37 am) Qwert :monitoring AAL
(06:37 am) Mitch King:watchign CTCT for uptrend to continue
(06:38 am) Mitch King:CRZO uptrending
(06:38 am) Mitch King:watch MNK for trades today both ways, this is one that came down big couple days ago and now almost back up to top of range
(06:40 am) Mitch King:ROVI new high
(06:40 am) Mitch King:expecting more upside with GTN
(06:40 am) Mitch King:watching DWRE for possible short
(06:41 am) Mitch King:monitoring STZ drop
(06:43 am) Mitch King:more upside for ROVI
(06:44 am) Qwert :ARCP volume spike
(06:44 am) Mitch King:MNK acting toppy
(06:47 am) JoeyTSA :eye on ACT
(06:49 am) Qwert :monitoring CBS
(06:52 am) Mitch King:watching QIHU for bounce
(06:54 am) Mitch King:ok breaking above now
(06:54 am) Mitch King:ROVI not breaking through 21.60, should be strong if limit order pulled away
(06:58 am) Mitch King:watching STZ for bottom to buy, no hurry, prob more downside first
(06:58 am) Qwert :monitoring CZR
(07:06 am) Mitch King:could be just a spike with no follow through on GIMO
(07:06 am) Mitch King:GIMO alert
(07:09 am) JoeyTSA :see if 3540 holds on /NQ
(07:12 am) Mitch King:watchign QUNR, more downside first but could bunce
(07:13 am) Mitch King:watching ROVI for another move
(07:14 am) Qwert :covered some CZR
(07:15 am) JoeyTSA :watcing NXT $40 level
(07:18 am) Mitch King:PCRX breaking out
(07:20 am) Mitch King:CZR giving off trades
(07:26 am) Mitch King:CNAT spike
(07:52 am) Mitch King:new low on STZ
(07:57 am) Mitch King:watching STZ closely for bounce
(07:58 am) Mitch King:should see $80 area for STZ, be flexible
(08:08 am) Mitch King:should get another smaller bounce in STZ if bounce occurs above that 77.75 area
(08:23 am) Qwert :ATHL moving
(08:23 am) Mitch King:getting resistance again at $80 level on STZ
(08:25 am) Mitch King:monitoring NSR, no hurry
(08:39 am) Mitch King:STZ moving above $80
(08:42 am) Mitch King:limited profit potential though, not great idea
(08:42 am) Mitch King:watchign ETR for bounce
(08:44 am) Mitch King:cancel ETR idea,, no-go
(09:33 am) Mitch King:lower low on ETR, new low
(09:38 am) JoeyTSA :MNST vol spike
(10:42 am) Mitch King:MNST new high
(11:01 am) JoeyTSA :top of the hour spike
(11:17 am) Mitch King:looking for more sellign in MNST
(11:24 am) Mitch King:microshort in MLM
(11:44 am) JoeyTSA :great run on YY
(12:04 pm) Mitch King:the Monster runup MNST was from analyst on CNBC
(12:16 pm) JoeyTSA :watching ATHL

(05:25 am) Qwert :good morning regatta, scalpman, toby1115
(05:29 am) devo  :GM everyone
(05:29 am) regatta  :gm qwert, et al
(05:40 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning Qwert, traders
(05:40 am) JoeyTSA :wholesale inv @7, cudeinv @ 7:30, 10yr auction 10pdt
(05:48 am) JoeyTSA :/ESand /NQ already pushed thru my early levels, have to reset them
(05:51 am) Qwert :good morning joey
(05:51 am) JoeyTSA :keeping an eye on FB, should push to $60
(05:53 am) freitag8  :Morning everyone
(05:53 am) freitag8  :Todays BUY PPS signal on a Daily chart scan:    http://screencast.com/t/rBkDapP5abBi
(05:5 4 am) freitag8  :Stocks InPlay: STZ, GM, HALO, GIMO, NFLX, AMZN, FEYE
(05:57 am) skydiver  :gm all and thnx joey, freite on gappers and info
(05:59 am) freitag8  :GM
(06:13 am) devo  :FB got a nice boose this morn
(06:13 am) freitag8  :Unusual Volume with Fresh News: ISRG, PCRX, CTCT, TM, AA, VZ
(06:14 am) doji  :Good day, just connecting to wish you a  profitable day... too busy at the office to trade...
(06:15 am) Qwert :gm doji
(06:15 am) Mitch King:interesting that Goldman considering closing their dark pool operation, world's largest.  after Flash Boys book came out last monday
(06:15 am) freitag8  :Sorry to hear that Doji... you need 2 Brazilian Secretaries! Thanks for the well wishes... Hope all is well with you
(06:15 am) devo  :u finish the book Mithch?
(06:16 am) Mitch King:no, hard to read during weekday, too busy
(06:16 am) freitag8  :On the Radar: ALKS, DPS, NOW, SWFT, TCK, BX
(06:16 am) devo  :sorry for name typo
(06:17 am) freitag8  :VJET climbing the radar list
(06:17 am) devo  :VIPS
(06:18 am) freitag8  :I'll be watchiNG PBYI
(06:26 am) skydiver  :LNKD up a bit this morning -- will keep chart up
(06:27 am) JoeyTSA :for swing traders, HAR might be one to put on the radar
(06:28 am) freitag8  :u like HAR for a bullish trade?
(06:28 am) JoeyTSA :watching it for long
(06:29 am) JoeyTSA :potential swing, not daytrade
(06:29 am) freitag8  :Thanks... will do!
(06:29 am) skydiver  :ipo - LQ - La Quiinta opening today
(06:29 am) JoeyTSA :hotel chain right
(06:30 am) Qwert :yes joey
(06:30 am) skydiver  :right joey
(06:31 am) regatta  :watching HSY
(06:34 am) JoeyTSA :indice pullback
(06:34 am) skydiver  :covering 3/4 LNKD
(06:34 am) JoeyTSA :/ES trying to hold 1850
(06:35 am) regatta  :watching GTN
(06:35 am) freitag8  :PCRX) today announced the pricing of its previously announced public offering of 1,600,000 shares of its common stock at a public offering price of $64.00
(06:35 am) skydiver  :all out of LNKD short - barely caught that short on it
(06:35 am) JoeyTSA :thx freitag
(06:38 am) freitag8  :STZ) reported better-than-expected fiscal fourth-quarter earnings... ATR $1.59
(06:39 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX holding $346 so far, level on watch though for potential next leg down
(06:43 am) freitag8  :FSLR beginning to trade like yesterday... trend, consolidate, break support
(06:44 am) freitag8  :top of Radar... ROC, STZ, PDCO, USO
(06:46 am) JoeyTSA :PBYI had quck pop, call call freitag
(06:46 am) JoeyTSA :good call
(06:46 am) freitag8  ::)
(06:46 am) skydiver  :nice call on CTCT Mitch - thanks
(06:50 am) Mitch King:Got datafeed problem
(06:50 am) skydiver  :LQ open
(06:52 am) freitag8  :FSLR... similar open to yesterday... set a range with a dbl top and dbl bottom and then broke out
(06:54 am) skydiver  :TSLA - monitoring this drop
(06:55 am) freitag8  :Great trades this morning on PBYI
(06:55 am) freitag8  :gotta be quick tho... its a mover
(06:55 am) skydiver  :yes Freitage - been great
(06:55 am) skydiver  :thanks again for PBYI
(06:56 am) freitag8  :monitoring FSLR consolidation
(06:56 am) freitag8  :My Pleasure
(06:56 am) freitag8  :Mitch brought it up the other day... Thanks Mitch for PBYI
(06:57 am) freitag8  :took off long PBYI
(06:59 am) freitag8  :IB has limited Short shares available for ROVI
(07:00 am) freitag8  :got a conference call in a couple minutes... be out for a bit
(07:03 am) Mitch King:How did you find that out about ROVI shares frei?  shows 10 mil shares avail to short
(07:05 am) skydiver  :he might be on a conference call Mitch (freitage)
(07:06 am) JoeyTSA :CTCT beengreat, watch $28 for next level
(07:06 am) skydiver  :agree joey - been nice one CTCT
(07:06 am) JoeyTSA :big vol spike though Mitch
(07:07 am) JoeyTSA :must have been some news/rumor
(07:07 am) JoeyTSA :markets feel a bit heavy, but can change any time
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(07:08 am) skydiver  :ipo - KANG - now open
(07:08 am) skydiver  :it's a health care group - KANG
(07:08 am) JoeyTSA :use $18 on GIMO as potential breakout?
(07:10 am) Mitch King:yeah joey, GIMO real active at the moment
(07:10 am) JoeyTSA :bull flag formation
(07:10 am) JoeyTSA :rather wait to see $18 levelbreakout then pulback/hold
(07:11 am) JoeyTSA :its a low-risk gunsling if thats your style
(07:11 am) freitag8  :GIMO could be the next morning play
(07:12 am) rd  :watching act for bounce
(07:12 am) freitag8  :FSLR trending down nicely... moving Stop Loss down to BreakEven
(07:13 am) JoeyTSA :nice short on FSLR:)
(07:14 am) freitag8  :got in @ $72.80
(07:15 am) bill1  :Hey guys, Theres no way I can get a proper fill trading ES 06-14, I put in a stop 3 points below current price and it constantly gets hit without the actual price never even approaching my stop. My Plot symbol sits in open space. Any ideas?
(07:15 am) bill1  :Trades in /CL are bang on.
(07:16 am) JoeyTSA :no clue bill, sorry
(07:16 am) freitag8  :which platform are u using Bill?
(07:16 am) bill1  :Ninja/IB
(07:16 am) freitag8  :just gor Zero Line cross on FSLR... closing 1/2 short
(07:17 am) freitag8  :OK... I'm using IB too... but not Ninja... are you trading from the chart on Ninja?
(07:17 am) bill1  :Yes
(07:18 am) freitag8  :Let me try a trade on IB and see if I get hit out too
(07:18 am) JoeyTSA :20min break, great calls
(07:19 am) freitag8  :It must be Ninja... no hit out on /ES 6-14 via IB
(07:20 am) bill1  :Thanks Frei, Pretty frustrating not being able to trade ES/
(07:20 am) bill1  :Maybe I will try trading directly in IB
(07:21 am) freitag8  :i understand... can you do a manual stop loss... hold the order as a market under the entry and click to fill?
(07:22 am) bill1  :I still get filled a point or 2 off(Always in the wrong direction)  grr
(07:25 am) skydiver  :Bill - you may need to reboot ninja?
(07:25 am) Mitch King:also email support@ninjatrader.com  they are really fast responders
(07:26 am) Mitch King:my name is Joey, i look for spikes
(07:27 am) Mitch King:Joey King is my nickname
(07:27 am) Qwert :haha
(07:27 am) skydiver  :lol Mitch :)   good one
(07:27 am) Mitch King:Joey Skydiver
(07:27 am) skydiver  :ipo - LQ slow mover up from bottom
(07:27 am) skydiver  ::)
(07:27 am) skydiver  :haha Mitch :)
(07:27 am) freitag8  :too funny
(07:28 am) Mitch King:skydiver can say bible verses in three languages, all at the same time
(07:28 am) skydiver  :how did you know Mitch :)
(07:28 am) Mitch King:Ukrainian, English and SPanish
(07:28 am) Qwert :lol
(07:28 am) bill1  :I've sent all the log files to Ninja and they say theres nothing wrong. Sheesh!When I buy or sell initially it always gives me about a 1 or 2 point advantage but takes it back when I sell. A bit confusing when the numbers don't line up. AAAAhhhhh
(07:29 am) skydiver  :english and spanish - yes - but Ukrainian?
(07:29 am) Mitch King:people think you are talking Chinese skydiver, but i tell them you are from North Korea
(07:29 am) skydiver  :;)
(07:30 am) skydiver  :I am laughing so hard I can't see to trade!!  :)
(07:30 am) Mitch King:i had that problem once bill, forgot what solution was but support helped me through that, make sure you give them all relevant info
(07:33 am) bill1  :Thanks Mitch  I will try support again.
(07:34 am) skydiver  :thanks again for you teaching some time ago on how to handle ipo's Mitch   LQ - went long at bottom approx and been moving up since - so far
(07:34 am) Mitch King:good job sky, did you hold for very long?
(07:34 am) skydiver  :still in ;)
(07:34 am) Mitch King:great, what time did you go long?  price
(07:35 am) skydiver  :7:02 - got price at 16.59
(07:36 am) skydiver  :a llittle late, but . .
(07:36 am) Mitch King:ok this candle here, you don't need to panic sell, you can sell above ask and price will come to you
(07:36 am) skydiver  :ok - will do
(07:36 am) Mitch King:you have been in for 34 minutes sky?  good job.  thats a miracle, you can change
(07:37 am) skydiver  :amazing - isn't it :)  surprised myself
(07:37 am) Mitch King:now you just have to convince your wife
(07:37 am) skydiver  :ha ha -- that's a whole different challenge :)
(07:37 am) Mitch King:lol
(07:37 am) Qwert :for sure
(07:37 am) Mitch King:i'll tell her for you sky.  then she will say "Who are you?"
(07:37 am) skydiver  ::)
(07:38 am) Mitch King:I'm Kim, Kim Jong II
(07:38 am) Qwert :hahahahaa
(07:38 am) skydiver  ::)
(07:38 am) skydiver  :wiping tears from my eyes -- whew -- ok -- back to trading :)
(07:39 am) Mitch King:im full of it today.  serious sleep deprivation does that
(07:39 am) skydiver  :too funny -- but thanks for great laughs :) - I think I needed that :)
(07:41 am) Mitch King:sky, if LQ breaks above 17.25, you should get another 25 cents after that
(07:42 am) skydiver  :gotcha Mitch -- thnx
(07:42 am) Mitch King:now usually these IPOs don't hold up the same way that a trending stock like PCRX does
(07:42 am) skydiver  :right -- I'm usually in and out pretty fast in ipo's
(07:43 am) Mitch King:my first impression is to consider reducing some of that long here
(07:43 am) skydiver  :covered 1/2
(07:43 am) skydiver  :my impression too - thanks for confirmation
(07:43 am) Mitch King:you want to trade it with mentality of protecting what you made plus some risk too.
(07:43 am) Mitch King:you mean you sold
(07:43 am) Mitch King:you didnt cover
(07:43 am) skydiver  :sorry -- yes - sold
(07:43 am) skydiver  :still laughing a bit :)
(07:44 am) Mitch King:ok so when you get indications to sell, you put up a limit order to sell at ask or a few cents above, esp when stock is moving around
(07:45 am) skydiver  :ok
(07:45 am) skydiver  :great lesson for me Mitch -- awesome - thanks :)
(07:46 am) Mitch King:now if this were a normal stock that is established, with high vol. you don't have as much risk that it falls apart compared to an ipo
(07:47 am) Mitch King:when an ipo vol dries up, like it has  on LQ, it gets more volatile, usually toward the downside
(07:47 am) skydiver  :gotcha -- understand --
(07:47 am) Mitch King:you still have 1/2 long in LQ now?
(07:48 am) skydiver  :no -1/4 now
(07:48 am) JoeyTSA :good ipo lesson
(07:49 am) Mitch King:ok now see the chart beyind LQ, PCRX?  you get trend up, slightpullback or consolidation, then a move higher?
(07:49 am) skydiver  :right
(07:49 am) Mitch King:you can trust something like PCRX much more than an ipo.
(07:49 am) skydiver  :gotcha - makes a lot of sense
(07:50 am) Mitch King:but you have come a long way Virginia Slips to hold this long.  must be like electric shock treatment for you
(07:50 am) JoeyTSA :NXST gave great bounce, was mistyped abov @ 7:15
(07:50 am) skydiver  :pretty close Mitch :)
(07:50 am) Qwert :lol
(07:50 am) Mitch King:this is good rehab center sky
(07:50 am) skydiver  :I think so Mitch - :)
(07:51 am) Mitch King:now don't have negative thoughts if LQ makes big move higher, you just have to play the odds as it is now
(07:51 am) skydiver  :right -- In 5 minutes will need to head out to an appointment - so will shut down then or so
(07:52 am) Mitch King:well good job sky
(07:52 am) skydiver  :thanks again Mitch -- great mentor you are :)
(07:53 am) Mitch King:sure your welcome Kim
(07:53 am) skydiver  ::)
(07:53 am) Mitch King:hey sky, don't pass out bibles in North Korea
(07:54 am) skydiver  :yes, I hear those who do don't get out
(07:54 am) skydiver  :or end up worse
(07:56 am) skydiver  :ok - all out of LQ long - my time is up - thanks again for great calls, etc. and thanks again Mitch for great teaching :)   See you all maybe toward closing
(07:56 am) JoeyTSA :enjoy sky
(07:56 am) skydiver  :you too joey :)  I'm gone
(07:56 am) Mitch King:oh one last tip sky on ipos
(07:56 am) Qwert :cya sky
(07:57 am) Mitch King:ipos only sell a small percentage of their shares so the float is really small, which means volatility is very high.  small orders can move an ipo a lot more than normal stocks
(07:59 am) Mitch King:right here with STZ is where i would sell 1/3rd
(07:59 am) Mitch King:when it cant get above previous candle early in a bounce of a weak stock
(08:00 am) Mitch King:but its strong here now, should go over 80
(08:00 am) Mitch King:nice V pattern
(08:00 am) Mitch King:then i reduce again here at ask or above
(08:01 am) Mitch King:then you can have a trailing stop in case it really runs
(08:06 am) JoeyTSA :/ES testing 1847
(08:06 am) JoeyTSA :FB tagged that $60 level +
(08:15 am) regatta  :watching HSY again
(08:24 am) Mitch King:GOOD EYE qwert
(08:24 am) JoeyTSA :STZ was  good one
(08:24 am) JoeyTSA :nice Qwert
(08:25 am) JoeyTSA :what a breakout at $36, missed that one
(08:26 am) JoeyTSA :didnt have the chart up, but that hold at $35 looked like a good early entry
(08:27 am) Mitch King:sure does
(08:27 am) Qwert :yeah same here, agree joey
(08:27 am) JoeyTSA :nice higher low
(08:28 am) JoeyTSA :patterns always look amazing after the fact  haha
(08:28 am) Qwert :yeah
(08:38 am) regatta  :watching YRCW
(08:49 am) JoeyTSA :Lightspeed Webinar today on Rifle Charts..im not familiar with them and think they are something you would have to buy?
(08:50 am) JoeyTSA :actually i think its a way to set up your charts i Lightspeed..has to do with stochastics
(08:51 am) JoeyTSA :but thats just a guess
(08:51 am) JoeyTSA :think i will skip it and watch it when it gets uploaded
(09:18 am) JoeyTSA :BIDU hod
(09:19 am) Mitch King:JOEY, HOW was that webinar for Trade ideas auto trading, i think it is with their odds maker
(09:20 am) JoeyTSA :i didnt watch it actually
(09:21 am) Mitch King:I think they have something interesting with that
(09:22 am) JoeyTSA :i dont see it uploaded yet either
(09:22 am) JoeyTSA :usually they get put up quick, im not into auto anything
(09:23 am) Mitch King:that sure is a breakthrough for SKY to hold a stock that long, I never seen that before from him
(09:23 am) JoeyTSA :he is doing very well
(09:24 am) Mitch King:i figured he was on the bottle this morning to do that
(09:24 am) Mitch King:i've been telling him thats where the money is in longer hold times than 30 seconds
(09:24 am) JoeyTSA :Mitch: that webinar is uploaded
(09:25 am) Mitch King:which one
(09:25 am) JoeyTSA :its under the Lightspeed Trader sction of recorded webinars
(09:25 am) JoeyTSA :the auto trading TI one
(09:25 am) Mitch King:the autotrading?
(09:25 am) Mitch King:ok
(09:25 am) Mitch King:Lightspeed sure was in the news this week, bad press.  got a big fine from SEC
(09:26 am) JoeyTSA :i was looking in the wrong section
(09:26 am) Mitch King:i want to say something like 1.7 mil, not sure amt
(09:27 am) JoeyTSA :crazy
(09:28 am) JoeyTSA :busy few days coming up for me...
(09:28 am) Mitch King:horses?
(09:28 am) JoeyTSA :only trading 1st hour and maybe last hour tomorrow..
(09:28 am) JoeyTSA :might be late on friday.going to show tomorrow night...then only here 1st hour/last hour on monday
(09:29 am) JoeyTSA :dentist tomorrow morning, another appt on monday
(09:29 am) JoeyTSA :not dentist on monday thankfully  haha
(09:30 am) Mitch King:it has to do with the HFT guys layering or spoofing a bunch of orders showing prices and then pulling them away when traders put their orders
(09:31 am) Mitch King:i read that 95-96% of orders are pulled and cancelled from HFT firms.  that practice tricks people thinking there is actually volume or itnerest int eh stock
(09:34 am) JoeyTSA :what a mess that is
(09:36 am) Mitch King:tecd
(09:36 am) Mitch King:sorry
(10:06 am) JoeyTSA :lunchtime, back in 45
(10:16 am) Mitch King:yeah joey, the Lightspeed fine was for knowingly aiding and abetting the spoofing  and layering of orders that are cancelled when orders come in.  its sort of a trap and thats what Flash Boys book is describing.  really disturbing to see this.  i knew this was going on with my orders.  i would not be surprised they can see character recognition when people type in.  that service is available to view what people are typing when they are on your website and you get their IP address as well.  its really creepy.
(10:18 am) Mitch King:thats why with some websites, they email you with a marketing message that says something like "We see you were interested in this XYZ product...." even though I didnt complete an order.  and they autoemail that within 2 hours.
(10:21 am) Mitch King:Since most people do not complete their online orders, they don't complete them, probably about 70% of orders are not completed or sent, the savvy online websties will email you.  I think they have gotten away from that practice though.  but the HFT guys, i suspect are using same technology to see keystrokes as you type and when the hedge fund or us individual traders send the order, they actually front run the order or if it is a big order a mutual fund manager is sending like 100,000 shares, that spoof order listed in the level 2 and 3 are pulled away and the HFT back their prices away from that to get the manager to buy at higher price.  or more commonly, the HFT guys will see your order sent and within microseconds buy that same stock at lower price and sell to you to fill your buy order.
(10:21 am) Mitch King:thats what this whole stink is about
(10:21 am) Mitch King:most of that behavior has just got to be bad for the markets in every respect
(10:22 am) Mitch King:we aren't talking about the traditional way of making a market or specialists on the NYSE floor.
(10:24 am) Mitch King:this is a whole new level that has been evolving with ulta low latency datafeeds and extremely high transmission rates with super computers.  so the guys like Citadel and there is another big firm, these guys have literally been making billions with a B scalping all our orders with this front running.
(10:25 am) Mitch King:and they have 100% win rate, they take no risk at all.  they are guaranteed to make a tiny bit off you.
(10:29 am) Mitch King:you see, between all the dark pools, ecns and exchanges, maybe 15-20 of them, the HFT computers will check for better prices and reserve those shares and then fill all or part of your order.  because the HFT computers are faster, they see a different set of prices just micro seconds [millionths of a second] or milli seconds [thousands of seconds] before you.  I read an article that the HFT guys have been bragging about getting to 10-12 micro seconds.
(10:32 am) Mitch King:so the theory is the same as Einstein described it that at the speed of light, you  see things differently
(10:32 am) Mitch King:sort of
(10:33 am) Mitch King:i would love it if the markets can return back to trusting what you see listed on a book or leve 2 or 3.  I doubt that is going to happen though but it would give us better fills and pricing, let alone the trust factor.
(10:34 am) Mitch King:here is the article on SEC fines with two firms, one was Lightspeed:  http://www.thinkadvisor.com/2014/04/04/sec-fi nes-traders-3m-for-spoofing-layering
(10:3 5 am) Mitch King:was last weekend i think i read it
(10:37 am) doji  :The Wolf Hunters of Wall Street - This is summary of Lewis Flash Boys Book: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/06/magazine/fl ash-boys-michael-lewis.html?_r=2
(10:38 am) Mitch King:ok thx doji.
(10:42 am) Mitch King:im surprised MNST hasnt been bot out by someone like pepsi or coke
(10:58 am) JoeyTSA :MNST on good run
(11:00 am) JoeyTSA :thats crazy stuff Mitch, just catching up on what you wrote
(11:00 am) doji  :FED minutes released?
(11:00 am) regatta  :SPY going nuts
(11:01 am) JoeyTSA :yeah fomc minute
(11:01 am) Qwert :fed removing unemployment threshold
(11:02 am) doji  :Market Watch: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/06/magazine/fl ash-boys-michael-lewis.html?_r=2
(11:02 am) devo  :that was quite the move in /ES
(11:02 am) Mitch King:so far the new chairperson Yellen is all over the place, looking like she is really unqualified so far, credibility in question
(11:03 am) JoeyTSA :par for the dc course :)
(11:03 am) doji  :WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Federal Reserve officials had a secret video conference call in early March to discuss overhauling its communication to the market and reached a general consensus that the 6.5% unemployment rate threshold for the first rate hike was outdated, the central bank said Wednesday
(11:04 am) Mitch King:thx doj
(11:23 am) JoeyTSA :Paul Stanley coming up on cnbc..who would have thought 40yrs ago that he would still be relevant  haha
(11:36 am) JoeyTSA :BIDU another hod, up $3 since post around 9:15
(11:36 am) JoeyTSA :actually about $4move
(11:45 am) JoeyTSA :had YY on the premarket list wi the gap ups, forgot all about it..$5 move  missed
(11:45 am) freitag8  :eye on CSOD
(11:45 am) JoeyTSA :even late at the $71 breakout, missed  $2 move  arrrgggg
(12:31 pm) devo  :wrapping it up.  thx for the great calls today
(12:35 pm) JoeyTSA :bye devo
(12:35 pm) JoeyTSA :Thanks Mitch,Qwert,traders...have a great afternoon, see you tomorrow
(12:35 pm) freitag8  :Bye every1
(12:59 pm) Qwert :Good night everyone cya all in the am, awesome trades today
(01:19 pm) bill1  :Gotta Run guys, Thanks for your help today.

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