Chat Highlights From 04/03/2013

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(06:14 am) Mitch King:the ccyle we just had in CL 05-13 that nice drop and big pop...... thats what you are looking for. (06:14 am) Mitch King:i forgot to say the obvious in webinar yesterday: Don't trade anything, let alone futures when price is going flat, choppy and no 25 tick cycles from top to bottom are occurring. Just sit on sideline. (06:16 am) Mitch King:GENERAL RULE: moves in futures as well as stocks, but mostly in futures, price moves go a lot further than you usually expect so it is best to get a signal instead of trying to outguess when a signal is going to occur. you will make more money over the long term (06:17 am) Mitch King:i got a question for you. when i post comments like this and a then someone logs into the room, can they see this text or does it look blank to them in the moderators area? (06:19 am) Mitch King:ok seee how CL is flattening on price chart here using 242 settings on LightningBars? if i have more than one contract, i tend to reduce when price goes sideways or a first bar turns red like here (06:20 am) Mitch King:without being too distracting to your trading, i want to try to point out a few things i have learned that we didnt have time for yesterday and when we see them in real time. (06:20 am) Mitch King:i will try to give a few pointers today, teaching pointers here and there today (06:26 am) Ed :good morning (06:27 am) Ed :charts coming Diosna getting set up now (06:29 am) Mitch King:looking for top in CL soon (06:30 am) Mitch King:watching CALL for top (06:31 am) Mitch King:watching NFX for trades, moredownside (06:31 am) Mitch King:watching JOY for bottom (06:31 am) Mitch King:watching SIX for top (06:31 am) Mitch King:watchign BWLD for top (06:32 am) Mitch King:watching CONN for top (06:32 am) Mitch King:monitoring CYT, missed top (06:33 am) Ed :will use 50.79 for long strong vol on SINA (06:33 am) Mitch King:CONN toppy (06:33 am) Mitch King:watching TSLA drop (06:33 am) Mitch King:watch NTI for trades both directions (06:33 am) Ed :SINA monitoring (06:33 am) Mitch King:watching UNXL for top (06:34 am) Ed :keep an eye on SBUX see if get continuantion with strong vol (06:34 am) Mitch King:watching MOS for micro short (06:34 am) Mitch King:watching MON for top (06:34 am) Mitch King:watching HFC for bottom (06:35 am) Mitch King:watching ADT for short on top of bounce, take time on these (06:35 am) Mitch King:CYT resurged, watch for top to short (06:35 am) Mitch King:watching FFIV for top (06:35 am) Mitch King:forget MOS micro short (06:36 am) Mitch King:watching PII move up (06:36 am) Mitch King:cover MON for quick profit if short (06:37 am) Mitch King:watching MNST for bottom, low vol so far (06:37 am) Mitch King:watching AYI for top (06:39 am) Mitch King:FFIV toppy (06:39 am) Mitch King:watching PBF for bottom (06:40 am) Mitch King:consider selling JOY best price soon (06:40 am) Mitch King:watching TSLA closer (06:40 am) Mitch King:watching CRL for short on top of bounce, take time on these (06:41 am) Mitch King:monitoring GOLD, the stock (06:41 am) Mitch King:CYT toppy (06:41 am) Mitch King:more downside on NFX (06:41 am) Mitch King:watching ARIA for short on top of bounce, take time on these (06:42 am) Ed :advanced high risk trade, monitoring NFLX (06:42 am) Mitch King:i think GOLD is Rangold Resources (06:43 am) Mitch King:watching CELG for bottom, early yet (06:44 am) Mitch King:starting to monitor VLO (06:44 am) Mitch King:watching PBF closer (06:44 am) Mitch King:watching AWAY for bottom (06:45 am) Mitch King:watching CL 05-13 for bounce (06:46 am) Mitch King:watching JOSB for top (06:46 am) Mitch King:watching EQT (06:49 am) Mitch King:watch CONN to cover short soon (06:49 am) Mitch King:looking for 42.50 on TSLA, that might be optimistic though (06:49 am) Mitch King:watching HAR for bottom (06:50 am) Mitch King:2nd helping short on MON here (06:51 am) Mitch King:consider selling MNST gradually (06:52 am) Mitch King:monitoring SFUN, ho hum so far (06:52 am) Mitch King:watching HCA for bottom here (06:53 am) Mitch King:and NFX short too (06:53 am) Mitch King:CYT, SIX, CONN shorts drip drip drip down (06:53 am) Mitch King:looking for 104.75 to cover 2nd helping short on MON, be flexible (06:54 am) Mitch King:CELG bouncing (06:54 am) Mitch King:i consider the CL 05-13 in no trading zone here, look for some other instrument or stock (06:55 am) Ed :now what u can do on NFLX if u missed first long, is wait for retest near the lod price and firming up of buying candle before taking long like bullish engulfing, hameer, doji, no rush though, if takes out new low with vol good quick short again (06:57 am) Ed :keep eye on SINA if markets can get bounce, trading in range at highs (06:57 am) Mitch King:i have to reset this computer (06:59 am) Mitch King:consider covering CONN if short (06:59 am) Mitch King:watching BBBY (07:00 am) Mitch King:watching MPC for bottom (07:02 am) Ed :covering 3/4 NFLX short (07:03 am) Ed :will stop last 1/4 of NFLX 166.29 (07:04 am) Ed :its adcance play, but u look for what it gives, we had test of low, gave long bounce but it came back to revisit lows, which lets one know its weak then just look for break and get on train (07:06 am) Ed :see where TSLA provided same type of pattern (07:07 am) Ed :SPY new lod (07:10 am) Mitch King:starting to monitor WLK (07:12 am) Mitch King:watching CVRR for bounce (07:12 am) Mitch King:monitoring NIHD (07:13 am) Mitch King:watching two airline stocks ALK, DAL for bottom (07:13 am) Mitch King:watching TEX for bottom (07:14 am) Mitch King:monitoring LBTYA (07:14 am) Mitch King:also watching UAL for bottom (07:15 am) Mitch King:watching GMCR for bottom (07:15 am) Ed :: gum for Kors would like more selling before considering long play (07:15 am) Mitch King:these trades in ARIA are good profit percentages (07:16 am) Ed :the big money on NFLX woud have been short when stock lossed 176 area 9:38est. just so can go back study pattern (07:16 am) Mitch King:watching AYI for top (07:17 am) Mitch King:MTH bouncing (07:19 am) Mitch King:monitoring HUM (07:20 am) Mitch King:this is no trading zone for CL 05, choppy, learn this pattern and avoid trading it in any thing (07:20 am) Mitch King:TSO bouncing, late to see, more upside (07:21 am) Mitch King:watching ES for bottom to buy, ES 06-13 (07:21 am) Ed :if u were able to take SINA long would reduce some here place stop remainder 51 (07:23 am) Mitch King:watching SIX to cover, not really interested in long bounce (07:33 am) Ed :anyone still long SINA (07:57 am) Mitch King:watching PSX closer, not expecting big bounce but should be a small tradable long scalp (07:58 am) Mitch King:missed NVGN short earlier but watching for 2nd helping short. low priced (07:59 am) Mitch King:watching GMCR closer, getting interesting for long, esp if it keeps going down more (08:00 am) Mitch King:looking for CL bounce soon (08:17 am) Ed :FNP (08:19 am) Mitch King:GMCR bouncing (08:19 am) Ed :reducing 3/4 FNP long (08:20 am) Ed :placing stop last 1/4 19.01 (08:21 am) Ed :out all FNP long (08:21 am) Ed :will stop last 1/4 19.71 (08:24 am) Ed :if u took FNP short would look to cover some here (09:48 am) Ed :TAHO (09:50 am) Ed :TAHO Tahoe's Escobal Project Receives Final Permit - (09:59 am) Mitch King:i hope you guys are having fun with CL today (09:59 am) Ed :if u were able to take TAHO short would cover (10:09 am) Ed :US) Fed's Bullard: FOMC has come around to the idea that flexibility is needed around QE (10:23 am) Ed :would like move near 65.50 area (10:23 am) Ed :monitoring ETR for potential short (10:24 am) Mitch King:what settings you using for CL qwert? (10:24 am) Mitch King:you guys liking the LightningBars? (10:31 am) Mitch King:looking for bounce in CL (10:33 am) Ed :SPY new lod (10:41 am) Ed :KS) There are signs that North Korea could be preparing another long-range missile test - foreign policy blog - (10:56 am) Ed :still lower lows on SPY (11:45 am) Ed :nice one muraon on NTI (12:05 pm) Ed :George Soros is said to be withdrawing funds from Bill Ackman's Pershing Square fund - financial press - (12:06 pm) Ed :related HLF/JCP (12:06 pm) Ed :reltaed HLF/JCP (12:09 pm) Ed :nice one on VRX (12:25 pm) Ed :another issue with CCL (12:26 pm) Ed :CCL Ticks lower following local news reports that the Triumph ship has broken loose from a dock (related CCL.UK )- (12:31 pm) Ed :US) Fed's Williams (dove, FOMC non-voter): Fed could begin reducing bond buying by the summer, could end bond buying in 2013 (12:33 pm) Ed :SPY testing lod (12:35 pm) Ed :KR) North Korea reportedly has now approved a nuclear attack on the United States - press (related EWY USD/KRW- (12:49 pm) Mitch King:later murano (12:57 pm) Mitch King:joey, since you like the ES on quick moves and small profit targets, that setting is best for that. you might look at 2,6,3 too (12:49 pm) Mitch King:joey, the LightningBars at 2,4,2 is displaying ES futures very well today (12:59 pm) Ed :have a great eveing traders (01:10 pm) Mitch King:later guys (06:07 am) joeytsa :Good morning Mitch,everyone (06:08 am) joeytsa :ISM non-man pmi @ 7pdt, crude inv # at 7:30pdt (06:08 am) joeytsa :gap down: GPN,KUB,TSLA,VOD (06:08 am) joeytsa :gap up: UNXL,CALL,OMPI,CONN (06:12 am) qwert :Good morning to everybody (06:12 am) qwert :real nice move (06:13 am) joeytsa :yeah nice (06:17 am) murano :We can see the older text (06:17 am) joeytsa :i think it depends on how long after it is that they sign on (06:17 am) qwert :not sure usually i am in the room first (06:18 am) joeytsa :thats why i like when the day's chat is posted in the dsr (06:18 am) skydiver :gm all -- Yes Mitch, I can usually see the text from earlier in your box, but not so for us regular folk's box below (06:18 am) gregs :i just logged in and i can see the text you posted 2 mins ago (06:19 am) skydiver :and joey is correct -- depends on how long it's been since text was posted (06:19 am) lisas :gm all (06:20 am) qwert :thank you mitch (06:20 am) joeytsa :sounds good (06:20 am) skydiver :great Mitch (06:20 am) joeytsa :lisa lisa :) (06:21 am) lisas :sounds good Mitch (06:21 am) lisas :Hi joey joey (06:24 am) mikewd2 -:good morning (06:25 am) doji :Good day (06:26 am) skydiver :gm Ed (06:26 am) qwert :Gm ED (06:27 am) lisas :gm Ed (06:27 am) lisas :gm Diosna (06:29 am) joeytsa :ACT is another one of those that might get pulled to $100 (06:29 am) Ed :BIIB nearing 200 level (06:29 am) mikewd2 -:I missed that lod, was about to buy and my computer decided to reset (06:29 am) mikewd2 -:on CL (06:29 am) elisha :Good Morning Mitch, Ed and everyone (06:29 am) joeytsa :/CL ran right up to pp (06:30 am) lisas :yes, it did joey, and rang the bell (06:30 am) joeytsa :yep (06:31 am) joeytsa :GPN (06:32 am) doji :APPL moving agan as yesterdya (06:33 am) mikewd2 -:will look to short doji (06:33 am) joeytsa :SINA had nice move yesterday (06:34 am) mikewd2 -:TSO still weak (06:35 am) joeytsa :yeah mike (06:36 am) joeytsa :dbl top on /CL at pp? (06:36 am) mikewd2 -:missed TSLA yesterday for short (06:36 am) Ed :range on SPY tight right now so would use smaller share size, till we get break (06:36 am) doji :FB (06:37 am) elisha :thx Ed (06:37 am) joeytsa :agreed Ed (06:37 am) skydiver :thnx Ed (06:37 am) joeytsa :1564-66 current range (06:37 am) mikewd2 -:CMG (06:39 am) joeytsa :TSLA weak (06:40 am) Ed :missed cont, weakness short for NFLX (06:40 am) joeytsa :something weird going on with OMPI (06:40 am) joeytsa :2 straight days of gap ups after months of being rangebound (06:42 am) joeytsa :correct (06:42 am) joeytsa :AMGN pulling back (06:43 am) mikewd2 -:enter long on NFLX via calls (06:43 am) doji :NFLX big drop (06:44 am) joeytsa :/ES lost that tight range to the downside (06:45 am) mikewd2 -:refiners weak Mitch (06:46 am) Ed :best on NFLX wait for low then retest (06:46 am) joeytsa :yeah, failed the first one (06:48 am) elisha :NFLX heading to 160 - 162 area? (06:48 am) doji :Any news in FB? Very strong today (06:48 am) joeytsa :maybe because you uploaded a new pic :) (06:49 am) mikewd2 -:MPC weak again today (06:49 am) doji :Nah (06:49 am) joeytsa :AAPL hod (06:50 am) doji :are you agian on calls Shark? (06:51 am) doji :I am just waiting for a lower low to take puts in APPL (06:53 am) Ed :now what u can do on NFLX if u missed first long, is wait for retest near the lod price and firming up of buying candle before taking long like bullish engulfing, hameer, doji, no rush though, if takes out new low with vol good quick short again (06:53 am) mikewd2 -:I"M in 435 puts doji (06:53 am) lisas :Thx Ed! (06:53 am) skydiver :yes . . thnx Ed (06:54 am) doji :I am not yet Mile (06:54 am) joeytsa :report in 5min (06:55 am) Ed :same theory applies for TSLA (06:57 am) mikewd2 -:die AAPL (06:57 am) doji :I took the 430 Puts @ 2.69 Mike (06:58 am) doji :only 1/2 position, will add at the re-test of the hod or close it (07:01 am) mikewd2 -:I'm in 435's at 4.9 (07:01 am) mikewd2 -:4.8 sorry (07:01 am) joeytsa :/ES testing S1 (07:03 am) doji :NFLX nice if you are short (07:04 am) skydiver :monitoring LNKD (07:04 am) Ed :its adcance play, but u look for what it gives, we had test of low, gave long bounce but it came back to revisit lows, which lets one know its weak then just look for break and get on train (07:05 am) Ed :from comments posted earlier (07:05 am) joeytsa :that bounce ran into and stopped at 15ma also (07:05 am) mikewd2 -:VIX up 4% (07:05 am) Ed :thx joey, basically problems at trendline (07:06 am) joeytsa :/CL testing low from last big run up (07:06 am) joeytsa :crude inv # in 24min (07:07 am) gregs :where did you short NFLX again ed? i got in 9:57 but closed it when it came back because it looked strong (07:08 am) mikewd2 -:TSO still falling (07:08 am) Ed :9:57 had successful retest of low from 9:48 (although it was short live) (07:09 am) Ed :i took short 10:02 (07:09 am) Ed :so u were tad early (07:09 am) doji :DId you have your oder ready to be triggered at the break of the lod or just entered it manually Ed? (07:10 am) Ed :u want to allow them to play out, stock will let u know which way it wants to go, but we have to open our thinking (07:10 am) Ed :entered manually (07:10 am) gregs :hm, why choose 9:57's low when 9:58 was lower (07:10 am) doji :Amrket? (07:10 am) doji :Market order? (07:10 am) gregs :overall strategy is making sense, just not sure why that bar (07:10 am) Ed :no limit hit/take plus .01 (07:11 am) gum :any thoughts on KORS (07:11 am) Ed :on my chart i show lowest price next to time of 9:48 (07:11 am) Ed :166.42 (07:12 am) gum :any thoughts on KORS (07:12 am) gregs :ok my lowest candle is 9:49 with low of 166.48, was a doji (07:12 am) Ed :reason I seem like I get in quickly is I practice for quickness long time, also,when I see it patter I react (07:12 am) qwert :same here on NFLX low at 9:48 (07:12 am) Ed :ok so we are just off by 1minute, no biggie (07:12 am) skydiver :LNKD still selling off (07:13 am) Ed :yea qwert my lowest is also 9:48 (07:13 am) doji :GOOD holding (07:13 am) qwert :esignal here (07:13 am) doji :GOOG (07:13 am) Ed :and 9:57 test (07:13 am) mikewd2 -:TEX (07:13 am) Ed :esignal (07:13 am) doji :and APPL also... dang (07:13 am) gregs :hmmm ok good to know (07:14 am) Ed :gum for Kors would like more selling before considering long play (07:14 am) joeytsa :GS weak (07:14 am) eyes :you think NFLX bottomed (07:14 am) gum :any thoughts on KORS ? (07:14 am) Ed :KORS flirting with lows and still looks weak (07:14 am) mikewd2 -:CREE lod (07:14 am) Ed :i responded gum (07:15 am) doji :Hey Mike I closed my Put in APPL, looks strong vs the market (07:15 am) Ed :7:14 (07:15 am) mikewd2 -:I still have mine, going to stick with it for a while (07:17 am) mikewd2 -:ALXN starting to move (07:17 am) joeytsa :using 1557 as /ES support (07:18 am) mikewd2 -:GS at some support i think (07:20 am) elisha :thx ED (07:23 am) mikewd2 -:AAPL on the move (07:24 am) Ed :thx mike (07:24 am) mikewd2 -:will look to short again near 438 (07:24 am) Ed :mike on GC key level 1555, after that 1525 (07:24 am) Ed :but 1555 is all important (07:25 am) joeytsa :crude inv 5min (07:26 am) joeytsa :thx Ed for /GC level (07:27 am) joeytsa :nice move on KORS (07:27 am) mikewd2 -:NFLX trying to rebound (07:28 am) joeytsa :UNXL nice off the gap up (07:28 am) skydiver :got to look at my notes again to figure out all the new sounds again on Lightning :) (07:29 am) Ed :word is on drop in GC, we have unwinding built up over Cyprus crisis, but one can say we have had broader commod sell off (07:29 am) joeytsa :its like a sfx factory with all the new sounds (07:29 am) skydiver ::) (07:30 am) Ed :if we get closing low below 1525 GC could really drop (07:30 am) Ed :so keep tabs on these levels (07:30 am) joeytsa :far away though right (07:31 am) mikewd2 -:CL should sell off some on inventories (07:31 am) Ed :yep (07:31 am) joeytsa :i have it in the 1572 area (07:31 am) joeytsa :oh ok, just making sure my charts werent messed up (07:32 am) mikewd2 -:would expect more downside on CL but ..... (07:33 am) skydiver :nice one on SINA Ed (07:33 am) skydiver :yes (07:33 am) Ed :thx nice going (07:33 am) skydiver :thnx to you Ed on SINA call :) (07:34 am) qwert :real nice on SINA sky (07:34 am) qwert :and Ed (07:34 am) skydiver :thnx (07:34 am) Ed :i would start to trail it up more gradually (07:34 am) skydiver :ok (07:35 am) eyes :I tryed to long 9.47 stoped out on sina (07:36 am) mikewd2 -:nice bounce in VHC, smart money would short it again i think (07:36 am) Ed :joey talks about it alot also, good to take note of movers each day keep on list for following day as that where action is and u get spill over (07:36 am) joeytsa :/GC trying to hold 1570 (07:37 am) mikewd2 -:come to papa CL - haha (07:37 am) mikewd2 -:looking for that 95.90 area (07:38 am) Ed :it happens at times eyes, especially going long a short market, thats why I mentioned to play it real small until SPY gave indication where it want to go, and it happen to be the short side paid biggest $$ (07:38 am) pirate :watching GMCRfor long, TEX for short (07:39 am) eyes :ya i need to learn to be on the right side o well (07:39 am) mikewd2 -:LNKD in still very weak (07:39 am) Ed :u had the NFLX chart mapped out, what happened (07:40 am) Ed :for short play (07:40 am) eyes :i dont know i had tsla and call as well tryed to short call no shares (07:41 am) mikewd2 -:watching PL (07:41 am) Ed :we had bear cup, at break of lows setup early (07:41 am) Ed :on NFLX (07:41 am) eyes :LNKD (07:41 am) Ed :I missed early play but caught later plays (07:42 am) Ed :but would go back and study pattern (07:44 am) joeytsa :break time see you in 30 (07:44 am) skydiver :enjoy joey (07:44 am) Ed :hey gregs, LNKD has same pattern as NFLX for 2nd tier short, 169ish level tried holding then 10:35 est broke I call it 2n tier bcuz first tier was when stock lost 10:03 (07:44 am) Ed :c ya joey (07:46 am) mikewd2 -:looks like ALXN going to test 100 again (07:48 am) mikewd2 -:Icahn has not sold NFLX shares (07:48 am) doji :He will sell if it continues tanking... lol (07:51 am) serge :Ed thanks for responding to my volume question yeasterday. I read it after hours. (07:51 am) mikewd2 -:Icahn, thinks NFLX is undervalued (07:51 am) Ed :i responded, i forgot lol (07:52 am) Ed :forgot i had responded (07:52 am) serge :yea and it was a good one too....lol (07:52 am) Ed :ok (07:53 am) skydiver :okay - time is up for me this morning . . closed ouit SINA long . . thnx for great calls again -- :) (07:53 am) mikewd2 -:Ed: you long NFLX? (07:54 am) Ed :no (07:54 am) mikewd2 -:ok, i doubled up on my calls on that retest and then news came out. (07:54 am) Ed :good move (07:54 am) mikewd2 -:would love to see 180 again - haha (07:55 am) elisha :Ed, on NFLX, is the early bearcup and break @ 8:33 thru 8:39 ish? I'm asking because it's so small. Want to be sure I understand your reference. (07:55 am) Ed :yes small but came with big pakage for $$ (07:55 am) mikewd2 -:about time for some HLF news, its been quite last few day's haha (07:55 am) Ed :but yes (07:56 am) elisha :ok - thanks Ed (07:56 am) Ed :had 2 things going, bear cup and break of prev days low (07:57 am) Ed :the more things going, better probability of trade working (07:57 am) mikewd2 -:these shorts on CL bounces working nicely (07:58 am) elisha :thanks for reminders Ed (08:00 am) mikewd2 -:CL approaching 96.00 (08:01 am) mikewd2 -:I'm looking for 95.90 area Mitch (08:01 am) mikewd2 -:still short from 96.40 (08:03 am) Ed :nice short call on TEX pirate (08:03 am) mikewd2 -:covered CL short (08:04 am) mikewd2 -:switch teams, CL L 95.80 (08:06 am) mikewd2 -:did Lightning provide buy on CL? (08:06 am) Ed :getting flows into bonds (08:06 am) lisas :Mike, why 95.80? Do you go .20 past even numbers or is it something else? I have a pivot at 95.32 (08:06 am) lisas :it did mike, several, but then below MA's (08:07 am) lisas :so I stayed short (08:07 am) Ed :nice play lisa/mike (08:07 am) mikewd2 -:9:32 yesterday low was 95.9 (08:08 am) mikewd2 -:actually wanted it after i closed the short but got filled dime below (08:08 am) lisas :ok, makes sense support at 96, have stop on last leg just above that (08:08 am) mikewd2 -:got 50 ticks on the 2nd short (08:08 am) mikewd2 -:32 on the first short (08:08 am) mikewd2 -:after the news (08:09 am) mikewd2 -:a bit supprised NFLX hasn't rebounded faster (08:09 am) mikewd2 -:been down on Icahn news (08:12 am) mikewd2 -:your 95.32 better call on support lisa (08:12 am) mikewd2 -:maybe (08:12 am) lisas :its a S2, but .50 above it, moving stop down as approach 95.5 (08:13 am) mikewd2 -:i did a 20 tick stop and still in by 3 ticks - haha (08:14 am) lisas :wow, big stop. My momentum has eased, may get your bounce (08:14 am) mikewd2 -:only because i was up nicely on previous 2 shorts (08:15 am) mikewd2 -:I get a bit more aggressive when i'm up (08:15 am) lisas :actually, that's what I start with, usually move up and take one lot off at +7 ticks (08:15 am) mikewd2 -:i'm only playing with 1 contract, acct too small (08:16 am) lisas :I use the Matrix histogram also to place my trailing stops (08:19 am) mikewd2 -:FNP nice daily chart (08:23 am) mikewd2 -:lisa you enter long on CL? (08:24 am) mikewd2 -:I couldn't get shares at etrade (08:25 am) electrader :L CL @98.58 (08:25 am) mikewd2 -:what contract? (08:25 am) mikewd2 -:95.58? (08:26 am) electrader :CL 05-13 (08:26 am) lisas :no mike (08:26 am) lisas :have painters here, think I'll call it a day (08:27 am) electrader :I'm sorry Milkewd2 95.58 (08:27 am) lisas :may check in later, take care all (08:27 am) Ed :c ya slacker, I mean lisa (08:27 am) lisas :remember, I know where you live! (08:27 am) Ed :ooooops (08:28 am) mikewd2 -:nice on FNP Ed, FNP puts were to large a spread (08:28 am) Ed :Im sorry I take it back, ur the hardest working most beautifalist lady I know (08:28 am) joeytsa :bye lisa lisa (08:28 am) Ed :how large were they (08:28 am) lisas :I'm large? (08:28 am) mikewd2 -:lisa isn't that large! haha (08:28 am) Ed :that was in response to mike (08:29 am) lisas :lol, keep digging (08:29 am) Ed :uhhhh Im done (08:29 am) Ed :stick a fork in me (08:29 am) lisas :too funny Ed, take care all (08:34 am) joeytsa :AMZN weak $260 trying to hold (08:34 am) mikewd2 -:GOOG lod (08:37 am) mikewd2 -:watching CL for long again (08:38 am) mikewd2 -:ISRG getting back toward 500 (08:38 am) mikewd2 -:NFLX pushing again (08:41 am) Ed :KORS turned out nicely afterall (08:41 am) mikewd2 -:should have stayed on CL short side!!!! (08:42 am) Ed :forgot who asked about that one (08:42 am) electrader :You are right about short on CL mikewd2. (08:43 am) electrader :Took that #3 buy signal but didn't hold very long (08:44 am) Ed :yea dont forget in overall downtrend u will still get buy signals, but those are best to cover (08:44 am) mikewd2 -:but CL has been in uptrend (08:44 am) joeytsa :/CL trying to push above S2 (08:45 am) joeytsa :not today is hasnt (08:45 am) qwert :yesterday Mitch said you can usually short first sell signal after the first #3 buy signal (08:45 am) mikewd2 -:NFLX calls paying off nicely (08:45 am) Ed :was speaking of from start of day (08:45 am) mikewd2 -:1 day doesn't make a trend (08:45 am) mikewd2 -:haha (08:45 am) Ed :right it take a village LOL (08:45 am) joeytsa :it was over 97.40 yesterday (08:45 am) mikewd2 -:yeah (08:46 am) joeytsa :always trends within trends within trends :) (08:46 am) mikewd2 -:went it fell below 95.90 should have stayed with short (08:47 am) joeytsa :decent bounce off 95.10, if it stalls here i would look for restest (08:47 am) joeytsa :but if S2 holds as support, maybe back to 95.50? (08:49 am) doji :I am back.... missed NLFX rebound..... Nice for your Mike (08:56 am) joeytsa :there's 95.50 on /CL (08:56 am) mikewd2 -:/CL on that slow rise back to 97 (08:56 am) joeytsa :about a 3pt bounce on /ES also (08:58 am) qwert :dinner bell onCL (08:59 am) joeytsa :funny qwert... (08:59 am) joeytsa :got a sell signal on /CL lightning bars, buy signal on 4R chart (09:00 am) joeytsa :both cowbells (09:00 am) qwert :joey do you use 4R for CL i never have (09:01 am) joeytsa :yeah, thats my main one..also using lightning bars today with it (09:01 am) joeytsa :2 charts i mean (09:02 am) qwert :i was using a volume chart now today just trading in sim to use lightning bars (09:02 am) joeytsa :you like vol charts? (09:04 am) qwert :yes was using only on CL though 220V check it out these signals on the lightning bars are great though just gotta get the rules memorized (09:04 am) qwert :nice retest here (09:04 am) joeytsa :should get a buy cover signal soon (09:05 am) joeytsa :there it was :) (09:06 am) qwert :yep (09:06 am) joeytsa :i dont like when it gets lower highs/higher lows, i try to wait for a break now (09:08 am) qwert :yeah im just watching now (09:08 am) joeytsa :nice pop there though, will watch 95.10-15 as support (09:10 am) qwert :im a litttle color blind but that light orange #2 signal sure looks yellow to me hahaha (09:11 am) joeytsa :i call that peach haha (09:11 am) joeytsa :all i know is that everytime i hear that cowbell, i think its time to eat :) (09:15 am) qwert :being color blind is very strange, I told Laura i was getting really blond last summer and she says thats not blond honey thats grey! (09:15 am) joeytsa :haha (09:15 am) qwert :its true i was shocked (09:16 am) mikewd2 -:out half AAPL puts (09:16 am) joeytsa :when i see the back of my head, i just want to be blind (09:16 am) qwert :hahahah (09:16 am) joeytsa :dont care about color haha (09:16 am) joeytsa :nice one mike (09:16 am) qwert :good mike im still holding 1 (09:16 am) joeytsa :my time is up for now, should be back for last 90 minutes... (09:17 am) qwert :cya joey (09:17 am) joeytsa :keep eye on /ES 1553,1557 (09:17 am) qwert :i will just wont know what color it is (09:22 am) murano :DRH (09:25 am) mikewd2 -:CL below 95 (09:26 am) mikewd2 -:wow just noticed GLD outch (09:29 am) mikewd2 -:AAPL puts working nicely (09:30 am) qwert :wasnt paying attn to my aapl put tgt got hit (09:35 am) mikewd2 -:decent bounce on CL (09:36 am) murano :If you took DRH short would cover some here (09:36 am) mikewd2 -:ISRG still moving (09:38 am) eyes :GMCR (09:40 am) qwert :thx eyes (09:40 am) mikewd2 -:thanks Aaron, bought the 52.5 puts (09:41 am) eyes :TAHO (09:41 am) doji :I should have kept my puts in APPL Mike... next time (09:42 am) mikewd2 -:yes you should have, i'm all out now (09:42 am) mikewd2 -:great profits (09:42 am) mikewd2 -:trying to milk the NFLX 170 calls now (09:42 am) eyes :TAHO alewrt (09:42 am) mikewd2 -:also GLD calls working nicely (09:42 am) eyes :careful low vol (09:42 am) qwert :taho halted (09:43 am) mikewd2 -:short NBC, jay leno leaving - haha (09:45 am) qwert :nice bounce on GMCR to bad i missed it (09:45 am) mikewd2 -:TSO still giving it up (09:46 am) qwert :eyes you get gmcr? (09:46 am) eyes :no (09:47 am) eyes :i wish (09:47 am) mikewd2 -:i added to my GMCR puts on this bounce (09:49 am) qwert :news on TAHO (09:50 am) qwert :thx Ed (09:50 am) doji :Very low volume in TAHO (09:50 am) doji :Wins Project Qwert (09:50 am) Ed :until news came out (09:54 am) victor51 :Ed, simulating Lightening bar. Need clarification.on setting, stock 2,4,6? Futures 2,3,6 ? when do we change (09:54 am) victor51 :UNH cycling well on Lightening bars (09:55 am) mikewd2 -:CL retesting lod (09:55 am) eyes :srpt (09:56 am) Ed :i wrote down 2,4,2 and 3,6,2 for futures and 5,8,2 for stocks (09:56 am) Ed :I would play with them to see which wors as one will be more sensitive than other (09:57 am) mikewd2 -:nice on Aaron on SRPT (09:58 am) Ed :makes those even better fades on ones like TAHO (09:59 am) mikewd2 -:was there news today on SRPT (09:59 am) qwert :for sure mitch (10:00 am) Ed :let me look mike (10:01 am) Ed :nothing (10:02 am) mikewd2 -:did you take that bottom, long? (10:02 am) mikewd2 -:nice vol spike (10:02 am) Ed :no wanted more down to around 32.50 (10:02 am) Ed :selling that is (10:02 am) mikewd2 -:gotya (10:03 am) Ed :i get really picky later in day (10:03 am) eyes :TNH (10:04 am) qwert :super low volume oin TNH (10:04 am) eyes :thinly traded never mind (10:09 am) victor51 :Thanks Ed. I also wrote it down same numbers . Thanks for clarification (10:11 am) Ed :best programs, and approaches are ones that came be flexible, if markets moved in straight line would not be necessary (10:11 am) Ed :thats what makes market geometric (10:11 am) mikewd2 -:that's heavy stuff Ed! (10:12 am) mikewd2 -:Finally getting some higher bounces on CL (10:12 am) qwert :thats what i was thinking mike hahaha (10:12 am) Ed :lol (10:13 am) murano :Thanks for TAHO eyes (10:13 am) eyes :YW (10:15 am) Ed :he only gets partial credit cuz he spelled alert as alewrt (10:15 am) mikewd2 -:AAPL (10:35 am) mikewd2 -:VIX up 7.67% (10:37 am) doji :Hey Ed, waht do you mean by "makes market geometric"? This is the second time I hear that from you (10:38 am) Ed :not in straight line (10:38 am) Ed :in simple terms (10:38 am) doji :ok (10:40 am) doji :It fuou see APPL, it has been trading between the 62% and 78% Fib Retraccements (10:40 am) doji :yesterday and today (10:40 am) eyes :watch Z (10:41 am) Ed :thx doji (10:42 am) doji :and the /ES has just lost its 1 hour trend line.... (10:42 am) doji :on the 30 days 1 hour chart (10:43 am) doji :I have setup several chars at different time intervals to have wider view of the instrument's performance (10:44 am) doji :I have 2d-1min, 15d-15min, 30d-1hr, 3m-daily, 1y-daily (10:44 am) doji :It just something I wanted to share with you fellas (10:55 am) Ed :thx for sharing doji (10:55 am) mikewd2 -:come to papa SINA (10:55 am) eyes :GLDD low price stock thou (10:55 am) Ed :next time on pics at the beach we want to see las mujeres not ur pic :) (10:56 am) mikewd2 -:VIX looking good (10:56 am) mikewd2 -:up 9.23% (10:57 am) doji :Ed, watch out, Lisa is around....lol (10:59 am) Ed :uhh ohh (11:06 am) lisas ::) (11:07 am) lisas :Oh, I guess it should be:(:(:( (11:07 am) Ed :was asking doji about showing family pic. :) (11:07 am) lisas :I know, I was looking for it...didn't see any links on chat (11:08 am) lisas :actually about to sign off, take care everyone! (11:08 am) Ed :c ya lisa (11:09 am) Ed :another leg down in CL (11:09 am) Ed :CL 05-13 that is (11:11 am) mikewd2 -:wow - should have stayed short (11:11 am) mikewd2 -:unreal (11:12 am) Ed :yea for fuutre u look for coninutaion play levels to get back in (11:12 am) joeytsa :that was one heck of a downmove on /CL (11:13 am) mikewd2 -:yeah, didn't think inventories was that big (11:13 am) joeytsa :maybe something else? (11:13 am) joeytsa :70cent drop in 5 minutes (11:13 am) Ed :we been having that correlation of EUR/SPY CL (11:14 am) Ed :for some time (11:14 am) joeytsa :will have to pay more attention to that (11:15 am) joeytsa :wasnt here for that last drop, but it had been struggling with the 200ma (11:16 am) mikewd2 -:large vol spike on GRMN a few minutes ago (11:17 am) joeytsa :real big mike (11:34 am) mikewd2 -:TSO moving nicely up on CL drop (11:40 am) murano :NTI (11:43 am) joeytsa :/ES moving (11:44 am) elisha :monitoring CF (11:46 am) mikewd2 -:yeah, NFLX moving again (11:46 am) mikewd2 -:push baby push (11:46 am) joeytsa :/GC might be trying to change downtrend (11:46 am) qwert :sorry mitch just noticed your question I have 2 CL charts up both on lightning bars 2,4,2 and 3,6,2 (11:46 am) mikewd2 -:see that joey, i doubled down on GLD calls (11:47 am) joeytsa :all 3 ma's pointing up, 20>50>200 (11:48 am) joeytsa :i like /GC more than GLD (11:49 am) mikewd2 -:but i can swing more GLD (11:49 am) joeytsa :gotya (11:50 am) mikewd2 -:need NFLX t get thru this 171.5 area (11:51 am) mikewd2 -:SRPT rebounding a bit (11:53 am) mikewd2 -:joey notice CJES bounced off 20.00 (11:54 am) joeytsa :nice (11:54 am) elisha :CF testing pp (12:00 pm) joeytsa :nice move elisha (12:03 pm) elisha :uh- it'll go up or down, right? or sideways... (12:03 pm) joeytsa :haha (12:05 pm) joeytsa :thx Ed (12:06 pm) Ed :worth keeping an eye on especially HLF (12:08 pm) mikewd2 -:/PL gave up about 40 bucks today (12:08 pm) joeytsa :wow, didnt have that up today (12:09 pm) mikewd2 -:VRX (12:11 pm) doji :VRX L 72.89 (12:11 pm) mikewd2 -:VRX has nice daily chart (12:12 pm) joeytsa :0bama give back 5% of his income in tribute to furloughed few workers (12:12 pm) joeytsa :sure does mike (12:12 pm) joeytsa :pulling back to bb midline (12:13 pm) doji :bb line? (12:13 pm) mikewd2 -:big blue - haha (12:13 pm) joeytsa :bollinger band (12:13 pm) joeytsa :on the daily chart (12:14 pm) doji :got it (12:15 pm) joeytsa :i use a few daily looks, just happened to pull that one up first (12:17 pm) mikewd2 -:didn't see any news on VRX recently (12:19 pm) doji :VRX at 20dMA (12:19 pm) mikewd2 -:VRX L 72.31 (12:20 pm) doji :Next support at 71.50 in VRX if it gets there (12:21 pm) mikewd2 -:wonder if VRX deal to acquire that other company when away or something (12:21 pm) Ed :most bio stocks have had nice move so not surpsing to see some profits taken off table (12:22 pm) mikewd2 -:I'm stopped (12:22 pm) mikewd2 -:should run now - lol (12:22 pm) doji :71.5 Mike (12:22 pm) Ed :u should have reversed when lod could not hold (12:22 pm) mikewd2 -:yeah (12:23 pm) Ed :felxible can help u recover many times (12:23 pm) Ed :but i know it takes practice to get to that mindset (12:23 pm) mikewd2 -:agreed Ed, got to learn that (12:24 pm) Ed :it helps to separat urself from trade and focus on chart and what you see, that way it can really wake up what already in you, as you know how to trade the setups, but being one sided can inhibit that (12:24 pm) Ed :definitely keep on list for tomorrow (12:25 pm) mikewd2 -:closed gap from the 19th (12:26 pm) joeytsa :dont recommend going on any of their cruises for awhile (12:26 pm) joeytsa :they have been snakebitten (12:26 pm) mikewd2 -:yep unreal (12:27 pm) eyes :Mike do you know were i find SMA on Tradestation (12:28 pm) mikewd2 -:indicators (12:28 pm) joeytsa :analysis technique i believe (12:28 pm) mikewd2 -:Mov Avg (12:29 pm) mikewd2 -:those are simple (12:29 pm) mikewd2 -:averages (12:30 pm) mikewd2 -:i was supprised NFLX didn't move up to 174 or higher (12:30 pm) joeytsa :Mov Avg 1line or 2 or 3 (12:30 pm) mikewd2 -:right joey (12:30 pm) joeytsa :if you want ema, you choose Mov Avg Exponential (12:31 pm) mikewd2 -:then format to select the times (12:31 pm) joeytsa :you can edit color,thickness etc (12:31 pm) joeytsa :/ES pulling back to S3 (12:32 pm) mikewd2 -:great Ed, Dow should be back to 10k by October (12:32 pm) joeytsa :1547 needs to hold (12:32 pm) eyes :Ok My bad had my chart on monthly (12:32 pm) Ed :he is just jawboning without fed markets would have been climbing from 3k (12:33 pm) Ed :and he is nonvoter (12:33 pm) eyes :Thanks Mike I had them all set (12:35 pm) eyes :Good Night Everyone (12:35 pm) joeytsa :bye eyes (12:36 pm) mikewd2 -:nice Ed. War is good for economy and oil prices (12:36 pm) mikewd2 -:and my VIX (12:36 pm) Ed :ur right (12:36 pm) mikewd2 -:which is up 12.5% now (12:36 pm) mikewd2 -:watching CL at this retest (12:37 pm) mikewd2 -:oh and GLD (12:38 pm) mikewd2 -:13.3% VIX go baby go (12:40 pm) mikewd2 -:need GMCR to get new lod (12:41 pm) mikewd2 -:PL still falling (12:43 pm) mikewd2 -:out 1/3 UVXY out 7.90 in 7.28 (12:45 pm) doji :Last minute rally? (12:46 pm) joeytsa :maybe, nice bounce there (12:46 pm) mikewd2 -:VRX moving up (12:46 pm) murano :See ya'll tomorrow (12:46 pm) Ed :c ya murano (12:47 pm) joeytsa :bye murano (12:51 pm) mikewd2 -:GLD moving up again (12:54 pm) joeytsa :interesting day (12:54 pm) joeytsa :Thanks Mitch,Ed,Diosna, everyone (12:54 pm) joeytsa :have a great day, see you tomorrow (12:54 pm) qwert :cya joey (12:54 pm) Ed :c ya joey (12:55 pm) joeytsa :good to know Mitch on the lightning bar setting (12:55 pm) Ed's assistant :see you joey (01:02 pm) victor51 :Mike, very nice trading actions (01:02 pm) qwert :Good night everyone wow some amazing calls today
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