Chat Highlights From 03/14/2013

TSA Moderator ChatUser Chat
(06:12 am) Ed :good morning
(06:20 am) Mitch King:we want volatility, its like a trader's food
(06:22 am) Mitch King:we should get some volatility in /NG, with Natural Gas inventories coming out this morning.  It is overextended on the daily chart but at same time the snow in midwest could have drawn down the inventories as well, should be interesting
(06:26 am) Ed :fyi SPY trading near highs from 2000 and 2007. still watching 157 to 160 area been bumping against 155ish area
(06:29 am) Mitch King:I personally tend to identify stocks that are at extremes and looking for either reversal or to jump on the trend if early enough
(06:29 am) Mitch King:For anyone new to the room this morning, most of the high quality ideas occur in the first 45 minutes.  VOlatility has been at all time lows.
(06:30 am) Mitch King:DYN, DYnegy short
(06:30 am) Mitch King:watching SLCA for trades
(06:31 am) Mitch King:watching LYB for short
(06:31 am) Mitch King:watching ALTR for short
(06:31 am) Mitch King:watching EBIX for short first, trades oth ways
(06:32 am) Mitch King:ALTR toppy
(06:32 am) Mitch King:watching SAVE for top
(06:33 am) Mitch King:watching FTK for top to short
(06:33 am) Mitch King:watching LULU for quick short
(06:33 am) Mitch King:watching BMRN for top
(06:34 am) Mitch King:watching MTH for top
(06:34 am) Mitch King:watching ZMH for bottom to buy, take time
(06:35 am) Mitch King:missed top in MW but more downside for short
(06:35 am) Mitch King:watching  LNG for top
(06:36 am) Mitch King:watching WLK for top
(06:36 am) Mitch King:watching ONXX for top to short
(06:36 am) Mitch King:monitoring TSO for trade
(06:36 am) Mitch King:watchign ABMD for top to short
(06:37 am) Mitch King:watching CAVM for top
(06:37 am) Mitch King:watching KMT for bottom
(06:37 am) Mitch King:watching EBAY for short soon
(06:38 am) Mitch King:monitoring NTWK
(06:38 am) Mitch King:watching CNC for trades, missed bottom
(06:39 am) Mitch King:when i use the term monitoring means it is not ready, watching is a stronger term
(06:39 am) Mitch King:monitoring RYL
(06:39 am) Mitch King:watching ETFC for trades, next one a short
(06:40 am) Mitch King:consider reducing KMT
(06:41 am) Mitch King:CAVM toppy
(06:41 am) Mitch King:monitoring DDD
(06:41 am) Mitch King:monitoring KORS
(06:42 am) Ed :on AAPL/AMZN both trading 3 point range looking for break eitther way to play along with SPY move
(06:42 am) Mitch King:watching EXP for top
(06:42 am) Mitch King:looking to reduce short in WLK
(06:43 am) Mitch King:watching CCK for top
(06:43 am) Mitch King:short entry in MW again, 2nd helping
(06:45 am) Mitch King:watching SYNA for a short if rebounds toward 37.55 again, missed first short
(06:47 am) Mitch King:watching SYNA for short entry on this rise
(06:48 am) Ed :monitrong CVLT
(06:48 am) Mitch King:looking for ONXX to sell down
(06:50 am) Mitch King:watching LULU for short
(06:50 am) Mitch King:watching CVLT closer
(06:51 am) Mitch King:looking for short in with MW
(06:53 am) Mitch King:watching DDD closer for bottom
(06:54 am) Mitch King:watching CL 04-13 for short
(06:57 am) Ed :the short in AMZN working also
(06:57 am) Ed :no signal on CVLT and its very strong, will use longer time chart for change of trend
(06:58 am) Ed :trail last 1/4 from breakevn on AMZn short
(06:58 am) Ed :will cover 3/4 here for plus 1
(06:59 am) Mitch King:GC 04-13 bottom
(06:59 am) Mitch King:for 10-12 ticks
(07:00 am) Mitch King:watching CVRR for top
(07:01 am) Mitch King:watchign AVG for quick short
(07:01 am) Mitch King:more monitoring CVRR
(07:02 am) Mitch King:expecting VLO to trend up
(07:06 am) Mitch King:watching DDD closer
(07:06 am) Mitch King:/NG has already moved up 45 ticks this morning in anticipation of a reduced inventory number.  In 23 minutes weekly inventory report comes out
(07:07 am) Mitch King:yeah joey, CL is rebounding from that 10% drop on the daily chart,  prob peaks between 94-95 on daily
(07:07 am) Ed :on AAPL key premarket area 435 area
(07:13 am) Ed :"vague takeover chatter on CVLT" being reported
(07:14 am) Mitch King:$78 to $84
(07:14 am) Mitch King:looks like that rumor being taken seriously on CVLT Ed,
(07:19 am) Ed :will tighten my stop on AMZN by trailing using 10sma
(07:19 am) Ed :thats on last 1/4 short AMZN
(07:21 am) Mitch King:DYN sure was good short today.  THis is company in same industry as Enron at when Enron was freefalling and charged with fraud, the CEO of DYN said "we are a legitimate energy company" but their stock went down 95% too, just by association
(07:22 am) Mitch King:thanks murano,
(07:22 am) Ed :out all AMZN short
(07:23 am) Mitch King:watching /GC for bottom, 10-12 profit target again
(07:23 am) Ed :MGM Tracinda Corp (Kerkorian) files amended holdings at 18.6%; requests purchases of additional shares, seeking to increase -
(07:23 am) Ed :thx murano
(07:23 am) Mitch King:watch NG weekly inventory report in 6-7 minutes
(07:25 am) Mitch King:argh, how did we miss WAGE short, needs to rebound for better price
(07:27 am) Mitch King:/GC still dropping
(07:28 am) Ed :covering 3/4 CVLT short
(07:29 am) Mitch King:that ?NG natural gas price has priced in most of a potential spike from report in 90 seconds
(07:29 am) Ed :will trail last 1/4 CVLT short
(07:31 am) Mitch King:nice jump in GC
(07:31 am) Mitch King:a lot of people already knew that NG report joey
(07:37 am) Mitch King:watching SRPT for top
(07:38 am) Mitch King:watching ZMH for bottom
(08:04 am) Mitch King:GC cycling real well
(08:29 am) Ed :nice tight range on SPY
(08:31 am) Mitch King:/PL cycling well
(09:00 am) Ed :JOY getting move
(09:04 am) Mitch King:/CL cycling well, GC finished big move up, NG now more tradable
(09:05 am) Mitch King:correction on last statement, NG not more tradable, i meant PL
(09:18 am) Mitch King:remember when you get a signal in Lightning it is best to use a limit order to improve your price by 1-2 ticks.  except for  currency futures i think the spread is so tight you can sell at ASK price.  Same with ES, very tight spread and high liquidity.
(10:05 am) Ed :White House Press Sec Carney: Process for approval of the Keystone XL pipeline is moving forward
(11:01 am) Mitch King:watching for short in CL 04-13
(11:06 am) Ed :thats on VHC
(11:06 am) Ed :potential levels to watch on support 32.50ish
(11:07 am) Ed :dont try and buy till bottoms
(11:07 am) Ed :31level, then 30
(11:08 am) Ed :and no bottoming action in sight yet
(11:08 am) Ed :extremely weeak
(11:10 am) Ed :see if can get succuseful retest if u misess
(11:13 am) Ed :if u did not get VHC no worries its very difficult news play trade
(11:13 am) Ed :thx eyes and regatta
(11:17 am) Ed :VHC Hearing weakness attributed to chatter surrounding Cisco patent case which is before a federal jury -
(11:40 am) Ed :monitoring
(11:40 am) Ed :LIFE
(11:41 am) Ed :been having issues with 65 area
(11:48 am) Ed :got that vol
(11:48 am) Ed :thx eyes for ISRG call
(11:49 am) Ed :490 is key area to watch on ISRG
(11:49 am) Ed :if u took short would cover some here
(11:53 am) Ed :did anyone else play ISRG, was nice trinagle building that i saw, only missing component was vol and came in like charm
(11:57 am) Ed :seeing about going over the ISRG chart but want to see if majority are here
(11:59 am) Ed :will mark off what i saw before the move
(12:00 pm) Ed :right joey
(12:00 pm) Ed :15minute chart
(12:01 pm) Ed :up/down just so happens that it was down and that was my clue
(12:01 pm) Ed :so as traders we just looking for move out side of triangle with vol
(12:01 pm) Ed :the thing with larget frames like daily 15 minute if it show there strong then of course for small timeframes
(12:02 pm) Ed :chart on right at top is for ISRG 1minute 2 day
(12:03 pm) Ed :great point joey usually they are bearish, but we want to teach you to be flexible so thas why you look for break eiter way so ur not caught flat footed in case it breaks to upside
(12:04 pm) Ed :hope that helps so would definitle learn to be able to spot
(12:05 pm) Ed :so as soon as I saw thats why i posted what i did
(12:06 pm) Ed :this is also why I say if ur having tough patch, slow it down meaning take fewer trades and wait for higher probability no brainer type setups
(12:11 pm) Ed :THIS is MW gave nice range to use from premarket
(12:12 pm) Ed :Just saying that all types of traders are accomodated thos who play inside ranges for scalps, pivots or breakouts/breakdowns
(12:17 pm) Ed :IR) Iranian fighter jet said to have attempted to intercept a US drone in the Gulf -
(12:24 pm) Mitch King:too slow joe
(12:24 pm) Mitch King:nice bounce on VHC, you get it eyes?
(12:25 pm) Mitch King:too slow joe
(12:28 pm) Ed :news is fluid
(12:28 pm) Ed :jury came back with adverse ruling re: VHC
(12:29 pm) Ed :confimred VHC lost trial agianst cisco
(12:44 pm) Ed :SWPY=SPY
(12:44 pm) Ed :SWPY new hod
(12:55 pm) Mitch King:later joey
(01:00 pm) Ed :have great evening traders

(06:12 am) qwert  :Good morning to everybody
(06:13 am) joeytsa  :Good morning Ed, Diosna, everyone
(06:13 am) joeytsa  :gap down: AMZN,VRA,SLCA
(06:14 am) joeytsa  :gap up: AAPL,MW,LNKD,EBIX,ASML
(06:14 am) Ed's assistant :Good Morning traders.
(06:15 am) skydiver  :gm everyone
(06:16 am) taco  :gm all thx for gappers joey
(06:16 am) qwert  :thx joey
(06:18 am) joeytsa  :no prob
(06:19 am) lisas  :gm all
(06:20 am) taco  :MBI has a nice trianlge on daily
(06:22 am) joeytsa  :thx Mitch
(06:22 am) doji  :Good day
(06:22 am) Ed :thx taco
(06:23 am) taco  :np
(06:23 am) skydiver  :GWW down - says sequestrian has impacted them reason for decelaration in March sales vs Feb
(06:24 am) joeytsa  :thx taco, sky
(06:28 am) victor51  :good Morning all
(06:29 am) taco  :calm b4 storm
(06:30 am) elisha  :Good Morning Mitch, Ed, Diosna and everyone
(06:32 am) joeytsa  :eye on EBAY
(06:32 am) joeytsa  :GS pushing
(06:33 am) joeytsa  :CAT falling
(06:34 am) joeytsa  :ZMH
(06:34 am) joeytsa  :eye on MLNX also
(06:35 am) joeytsa  :watch MW here
(06:35 am) joeytsa  :on a nice pullback
(06:35 am) joeytsa  :BIDU trying to break
(06:37 am) joeytsa  :/ES testing bull cup
(06:39 am) joeytsa  :AAPL has 2 decent sized red candles so far on 1min
(06:39 am) doji  :APPL weak Joey...
(06:40 am) joeytsa  :in a range doji
(06:41 am) joeytsa  :CVLT, very low vol though
(06:43 am) doji  :Playing with APPL Puts so far
(06:43 am) skydiver  :monitoring CF
(06:49 am) joeytsa  :tigthen CVLT if you took it long
(06:49 am) joeytsa  :looks like some news on it though
(06:50 am) Ed :yep strong so far
(06:50 am) joeytsa  :i jumped in on a whim
(06:50 am) doji  :Are you long in CVLT Joey?
(06:51 am) joeytsa  :yeah
(06:51 am) doji  :When?
(06:51 am) skydiver  :nice whim joey :)
(06:51 am) gregs  :CLF making a move
(06:51 am) joeytsa  :right after my alert
(06:51 am) gregs  :TSLA
(06:51 am) joeytsa  :rotten fill,went market haha
(06:52 am) joeytsa  :NFLX trying to hold $190
(06:52 am) doji  :FSLR in a triangle
(06:53 am) skydiver  :all out of CF long
(06:57 am) skydiver  :thnx Ed
(06:58 am) skydiver  :nice Ed
(06:58 am) taco  :nice ed
(06:59 am) joeytsa  :/CL has been nice
(07:01 am) joeytsa  :higher low on AAPL,  but still in that range Ed mentioned
(07:01 am) Ed :nice call on long CVLT joey
(07:01 am) joeytsa  :CELG strong
(07:02 am) Ed :SPY not wanting to give up the move yep so range still small on SPY
(07:03 am) joeytsa  :yeah Ed,  /ES banging head nad has R2 around 1556.50
(07:04 am) doji  :SYNA new hod
(07:06 am) joeytsa  :thx Mitch, /CL up nice from bottom too
(07:08 am) joeytsa  :CVLT testing $84
(07:11 am) joeytsa  :AMZN trying to hold $267
(07:12 am) joeytsa  :watching AXLL breakout from range
(07:14 am) skydiver  :thnx Ed for that news
(07:14 am) Ed :sure is acting tht way
(07:14 am) skydiver  :yeah . .  sure does
(07:18 am) joeytsa  :some weak charts on the big names
(07:18 am) Ed :very
(07:18 am) joeytsa  :GOOG,NFLX,PCLN,AMZN
(07:20 am) apple  :that says it all joey!
(07:20 am) joeytsa  :CVLT into $85 now  :)
(07:20 am) mikewd2 -:NFLX puts working nicely
(07:20 am) taco  :you still long joey?
(07:20 am) Ed :great call
(07:20 am) cowboyh  :FSLR
(07:21 am) Ed :an no topping action on 5min keeps one on the sidlines
(07:22 am) murano  :MGM
(07:22 am) joeytsa  :GMCR slow downtrend
(07:23 am) mikewd2 -:all the casinos doing well
(07:27 am) doji  :CVLT S 85.86
(07:28 am) doji  :CVLT now can go back to 82....
(07:29 am) doji  :or 50% retractment
(07:29 am) joeytsa  :/NG should get very volatile here
(07:30 am) joeytsa  :contracts flying
(07:30 am) doji  :Ed keep pushing CVLT lower
(07:30 am) gregs  :nice short doji
(07:30 am) Ed ::)
(07:31 am) mikewd2 -:got the CVLT puts, die baby
(07:31 am) skydiver  :yes Ed . . please do that . . .I went short much later than doji, but in it now
(07:31 am) joeytsa  :agreed
(07:32 am) doji  :Nice Mike
(07:32 am) Ed :fyi, using 1minute in combo with 5minute helps stay away from lot of false signals
(07:32 am) taco  :thx ed
(07:32 am) doji  :Yes Ed, thanks, the first red candle in the 5min signaled the reversal in CVLT...
(07:32 am) elisha  :thanks Ed
(07:33 am) Ed :yep
(07:33 am) Ed :no problem
(07:33 am) doji  :I have one limitorder to sell at 83, another at 82 and my stop at 85.25
(07:34 am) skydiver  :thnx Ed as well --
(07:34 am) doji  :to buy sorry
(07:34 am) Ed :way to work the trade doji
(07:34 am) cowboyh  :nice bounce in FSLR
(07:34 am) doji  :Thanks Ed The Man
(07:35 am) regatta  :WPRT
(07:35 am) Ed :and doji is "Da man"
(07:35 am) joeytsa  :nice regatta
(07:37 am) regatta  :watching SRPT
(07:37 am) joeytsa  :nice jump
(07:44 am) joeytsa  :break time, great trades, see you in 20
(07:45 am) skydiver  :see ya joey
(07:46 am) skydiver  :nice call on ZMH Mitch
(07:55 am) skydiver  :my time is up . . . see you all close of today or tomorrow morning . . thnx for great calls again !!!!
(07:56 am) taco  :c ya sky
(07:56 am) skydiver  ::)
(08:01 am) apple  :bye sky have a fun day
(08:01 am) qwert  :cya sky
(08:04 am) qwert  :MW still climbing
(08:05 am) mikewd2 -:CREE
(08:07 am) qwert  :WLT
(08:07 am) eyes  :SNDK
(08:08 am) mikewd2 -:MW still moving
(08:09 am) joeytsa  :same with CVLT
(08:11 am) mikewd2 -:i got the MW 32 calls at 0.25 dumped at 0.80 now 2.60 haha
(08:11 am) joeytsa  :still nice profit
(08:11 am) mikewd2 -:yeah, but ...
(08:11 am) murano  :EDU
(08:11 am) joeytsa  :no looking back :)
(08:11 am) mikewd2 -:only had 5, so didn't hold any
(08:12 am) apple  :nice on EDU murano
(08:12 am) joeytsa  :MPC drop
(08:15 am) mikewd2 -:LNKD lod
(08:16 am) mikewd2 -:was stopped on NG long after report - thought it was bullish, now she wants higher
(08:17 am) mikewd2 -:got to learn to wait a bit after reports
(08:20 am) joeytsa  :those reports usually lead to erratic trading
(08:20 am) joeytsa  :esp on /NG and /CL..but lately /NG has been more volatile
(08:21 am) mikewd2 -:NG should run to 4 bucks near term
(08:21 am) joeytsa  :a strangle would have gotten you 20-30 ticks quick though
(08:21 am) joeytsa  :i didnt do it, its been too crazy past couple of reports
(08:22 am) mikewd2 -:i had right idea, just got into early
(08:24 am) joeytsa  :tighten MPC if you took it long, wasnt much
(08:24 am) joeytsa  :still has some room though
(08:31 am) mikewd2 -:BIDU
(08:31 am) joeytsa  :ugly chart
(08:32 am) mikewd2 -:didn't stay in short long enough on that one
(08:32 am) joeytsa  :just hate that spread on /PL
(08:32 am) mikewd2 -:yeah, but it trades nice joey
(08:32 am) joeytsa  :yeah it does
(08:33 am) joeytsa  :but has the biggest spread of any of the futures i watch
(08:33 am) mikewd2 -:i've been placing buys/sells well below the pack and sometimes it hits
(08:33 am) mikewd2 -:don't give the ask
(08:33 am) joeytsa  :most are 1 tick
(08:34 am) mikewd2 -:first time i played /PL, put in OSO with 10 tick  stop
(08:34 am) mikewd2 -:got order filled, order filled
(08:34 am) joeytsa  ::)
(08:34 am) mikewd2 -:with in 2 seconds of each other
(08:34 am) joeytsa  :thats one where a stop can kick you
(08:34 am) mikewd2 -:i just use mental ones on it
(08:35 am) mikewd2 -:main thing is get in on right side of the move
(08:35 am) joeytsa  :yeah
(08:36 am) Ed :so true
(08:37 am) mikewd2 -:CREE still weak
(08:39 am) doji  :See bearish shadows on APPL's candles. Do you see also them?
(08:40 am) mikewd2 -:CVLT dropping again, needs to giv eup 84
(08:48 am) apple  :only with my glasses on
(08:49 am) victor51  :Cramer had SAVE ceo yesterday on his show
(08:49 am) mikewd2 -:CREE lod
(08:50 am) eyes  :MKTX
(08:53 am) eyes  :RCI
(08:53 am) apple  :eyes they both have very low volume
(08:53 am) joeytsa  :DDD ugly
(08:54 am) eyes  :thanks apple
(08:54 am) apple  :was a nice short joey
(08:55 am) eyes  :key area thou on RCI
(08:55 am) joeytsa  :SRPT
(08:58 am) eyes  :there she goes RCI
(08:59 am) joeytsa  :/CL in a 15c range
(09:00 am) eyes  :no trades yet today thou
(09:00 am) mikewd2 -:JOY jump
(09:00 am) mikewd2 -:with vol
(09:05 am) doji  :Watching JCP
(09:07 am) mikewd2 -:SHLD cranking again
(09:08 am) mikewd2 -:DDD into some support at 30'ish
(09:08 am) eyes  :joy breaking open any thoughts
(09:08 am) mikewd2 -:JOY tough trade here
(09:09 am) doji  :DD 200dMA at 29,24 Mike
(09:09 am) joeytsa  :JOY def using this area as s/r today
(09:09 am) doji  :DDD
(09:09 am) joeytsa  :needs over $62 for big run
(09:09 am) mikewd2 -:thanks doji
(09:09 am) mikewd2 -:or under 61 to short
(09:09 am) joeytsa  :yep
(09:10 am) mikewd2 -:news on DDD?
(09:10 am) doji  :Don;t see any
(09:10 am) mikewd2 -:SSYS hanging at 71
(09:10 am) joeytsa  :NFLX pop
(09:11 am) joeytsa  :watching /ES
(09:12 am) doji  :DDD L 29.97, stop at 29.87... risking 10c
(09:12 am) mikewd2 -:nice trade doji
(09:12 am) joeytsa  :cant get too hurt on taht
(09:12 am) doji  :Move stop at b/e, letting it ride
(09:12 am) mikewd2 -:could get decent bounce
(09:14 am) doji  :Taking 1/2 out here
(09:14 am) doji  :Thanks Mike!
(09:14 am) qwert  :nice Doji
(09:14 am) joeytsa  :great trade doji
(09:14 am) Ed :nice trade
(09:15 am) eyes  :you snooze you lose joy
(09:15 am) mikewd2 -:NFLX nice bounce
(09:16 am) eyes  :now to act on what i see
(09:18 am) mikewd2 -:might get a nice V on DDD, doji
(09:18 am) mikewd2 -:i went with calls
(09:19 am) doji  :Needs to break 30.6 to move to 31 at least
(09:20 am) mikewd2 -:done
(09:20 am) doji  :Out another 1/4
(09:20 am) mikewd2 -:SSYS moving also
(09:25 am) apple  :waiting for the pop on CAB - E - consolidating
(09:25 am) Ed :thx apple
(09:26 am) mikewd2 -:MW still moving higher
(09:26 am) apple  :still up 750 tho
(09:27 am) mikewd2 -:750 thousand?
(09:27 am) mikewd2 -:CVLT needs to lose 84 could give back a bunch
(09:28 am) apple  :, though
(09:29 am) Ed :good eye mike
(09:29 am) apple  :i damn near wish!!
(09:29 am) Ed :forming trianlge there should get some sort of break
(09:30 am) mikewd2 -:DDD looking good, needs to push over 31
(09:30 am) eyes  :short it below 84
(09:30 am) doji  :Agree Mike...
(09:31 am) mikewd2 -:I'm in CVLT 85 puts from when doji went short
(09:31 am) joeytsa  :DDD sweet
(09:32 am) doji  :I closed my intial short but re-entered when it made a double top... still holding the short position although small size
(09:32 am) mikewd2 -:nice V on DDD
(09:32 am) qwert  :nice mike
(09:33 am) doji  :all out DD Mike... nice $0.75/share profit in average....
(09:33 am) qwert  :great trade doji
(09:34 am) mikewd2 -:MLNX weak
(09:36 am) eyes  :what price would you short cvlt 33.90 area
(09:36 am) doji  :My SPY shares doing great... up now from 152...
(09:37 am) mikewd2 -:86.4 would have been nice
(09:37 am) doji  :from a weak ago....will wait until it reaches 1600... lol
(09:37 am) joeytsa  :heck, just shoot for 1700 :)
(09:37 am) mikewd2 -:watching ALXN
(09:38 am) eyes  :OAS
(09:39 am) joeytsa  :/ES into R2
(09:41 am) eyes  :Does anyone here know how to set a hotkey for trend line in tradestation
(09:45 am) lisas  :no eyes, try the help tab
(09:45 am) apple  :hey lisa
(09:45 am) lisas  :I have my drawing tools set up along left side of workspace, pretty quick that way
(09:45 am) lisas  :Hi apple
(09:46 am) apple  :agree
(09:46 am) joeytsa  :at least you guys draw stuff  :)
(09:46 am) eyes  :ok i found it thanks i like the bar thanks Lisa
(09:46 am) apple  :haha joey
(09:46 am) lisas  :and my crayons are in a happy face  mug
(09:47 am) joeytsa  ::)
(09:47 am) joeytsa  :still watching SRPT
(10:05 am) joeytsa  :/6J on a heck of a run all morning
(10:05 am) joeytsa  :correction  /6E  not 6J
(10:06 am) joeytsa  :thx Ed
(10:12 am) victor51  :SAVE sliding down S  25.50
(10:12 am) joeytsa  :nice victor
(10:18 am) joeytsa  :out SRPT
(10:18 am) victor51  :Hi Joey
(10:21 am) joeytsa  :hey there victor, hope all is well
(10:24 am) Ed :nice joey on SRPT
(10:25 am) joeytsa  :thanks
(10:29 am) joeytsa  :time for lunch, see you all in 30,  nice trading
(10:40 am) qwert  :HEy everybody lost a power strip here so just got back in anyuthing exciting
(10:41 am) Ed :good action early kind of slow now
(10:41 am) qwert  :yeah i was here up until about 45 mins ago  was great early especially MW
(10:43 am) qwert  :Did you get your CVLT short Ed
(10:43 am) Ed :yes played first drop
(10:43 am) qwert  :nice it lost 84 on good volume
(10:43 am) Ed :i did not play it there
(10:44 am) qwert  :oh where did u short at
(10:45 am) Ed :at 10;24
(10:45 am) Ed :85.91
(10:47 am) qwert  :oh okay i thought you were goint to short based on the triangle pattern on the 15min loosing 84
(10:48 am) Ed :triangle on 1minute and 15, I was but had to step out for few minutes
(10:48 am) qwert  :that was a great entry on your short
(10:48 am) Ed :thx
(11:04 am) regatta  :VHC
(11:04 am) eyes  :VHC
(11:05 am) Ed :thx
(11:09 am) Ed :been nice if could have found shares
(11:09 am) joeytsa  :would have been nice
(11:13 am) murano  :Thanks for VHC regatta and eyes
(11:13 am) regatta  :ym, moved too fast for me and i missed the bottom
(11:14 am) murano  :I missed the short but got yhe long
(11:14 am) eyes  :i wanted a better signal to enter
(11:15 am) Ed :nice going muarno
(11:15 am) Ed :murano
(11:15 am) murano  :I started buying small amounts  at 28
(11:16 am) Ed :but goes to show like we talke yesterday, support is support until its not that why like using term potential supprt
(11:16 am) joeytsa  :yep
(11:16 am) Ed :have to see how stock acts as apprproaches those levels but at warp speed
(11:17 am) Ed :did anyone else trade VHC
(11:18 am) Ed :success/non-successful
(11:18 am) joeytsa  :i stayed away, not sure why though haha
(11:18 am) eyes  :Murano buying lunch (:
(11:18 am) Ed :did u have short shares on ur end joey
(11:19 am) murano  :No shorts at Lightspeed on VHC
(11:19 am) joeytsa  :i didnt even bother to check, saw the L on it
(11:19 am) joeytsa  :@ lightspeed i mean
(11:20 am) joeytsa  :reminder ; free lightspeed webinar today at 1:30pdt on taxes
(11:20 am) Ed :ok
(11:20 am) murano  :I usually try anyway, sometimes I am able to get shares
(11:20 am) joeytsa  :yeah, good idea murano..sometimes they do
(11:21 am) joeytsa  :i just usually move on
(11:21 am) eyes  :anyone long here
(11:21 am) joeytsa  :not sure if SRPT has another move left or not
(11:22 am) Ed :Im completely out
(11:22 am) murano  :I'm out of VHC
(11:22 am) Ed :32.14
(11:23 am) joeytsa  :/CL quick pop
(11:24 am) Ed :I always look for break of trend even on fast movers for the reversal play
(11:25 am) Ed :so if ur able to draw trendlines on longer time frames its same for shorter frame fast movers, only difference u have to do it at warp speed
(11:25 am) joeytsa  :right
(11:26 am) Ed :or look for conservative play retest of low/high without being taking out so higher low/longs   lower high/shorts
(11:26 am) murano  :See ya'll tomorrow
(11:27 am) joeytsa  :bye murano
(11:31 am) doji  :I just saw VHC... nice confirmation using 144 ticks
(11:34 am) eyes  :isrg
(11:34 am) Ed :yes doji can work well also but would caution those not use to using tick charts get practice lots fo practice
(11:34 am) eyes  :scratch
(11:35 am) doji  :Yes Ed, I usually uses 1min, 5min, 15min and the daily to get a full picture of these fast movers...
(11:35 am) Ed :right but i know u are familiar with using tick as well
(11:36 am) doji  :I have all these charts linked so I just need to enter the ticker and all these charts open at the same time
(11:36 am) Ed :thx eyes ISRG is worth keep on radar
(11:36 am) joeytsa  :smart doji
(11:36 am) joeytsa  :just watch vol on ISRG
(11:36 am) Ed :good deal doji, thats how have mine too
(11:36 am) doji  :Learnt fro you guys...
(11:36 am) Ed :Im looking for break with vol on ISRG based on 15minute
(11:37 am) Ed :yea ISRG trade thin more of swing stock, buy we should get break at some point again with vol piciking up
(11:37 am) joeytsa  :gotya
(11:37 am) joeytsa  :always has wide spread
(11:37 am) Ed :yep
(11:38 am) joeytsa  :be perfect to cut, but not enough vol
(11:38 am) Ed :except for when that news hit on it
(11:39 am) Ed :that craziest spread of all had to be BVSN a year ago
(11:40 am) Ed :had like 2 spread at times for 40 stock
(11:40 am) joeytsa  :that was huge spread
(11:40 am) Ed :u recall it
(11:41 am) joeytsa  :kind of
(11:41 am) Ed :it paid some great dividends
(11:42 am) joeytsa  :i remember BVSN being in play
(11:42 am) doji  :Ed, look at the 144 ticks again in LIFE, short signal at 63.3
(11:43 am) Ed :yea i just dont like 144 tick personally
(11:43 am) Ed :just personal preference
(11:43 am) Ed :some people really like it
(11:43 am) joeytsa  :havent gotten into tick charts for stocks yet
(11:44 am) Ed :yea i tried couple years ago, did not like them much
(11:44 am) lisas  :yeah joey, you have to modify them for the stocks volume, gets hard
(11:44 am) lisas  :30 sec chart good for stocks though
(11:44 am) joeytsa  :not saying they dont work or dont have value..just havent tried it
(11:45 am) Ed :since was already getting good entries using price/vol time and sales and 1minute
(11:45 am) Ed :but i did try them though
(11:45 am) doji  :I'll post here hoy the fast movers do using tick charts
(11:45 am) eyes  :btt alert
(11:45 am) doji  :hoy=how
(11:45 am) eyes  :btt
(11:45 am) joeytsa  :thanks doji
(11:46 am) eyes  :you s ISRG
(11:47 am) Ed :make sure you tell them when and  when not to use tick doji so they will not be all over the place with all the signals
(11:48 am) doji  :Sure Ed
(11:49 am) eyes  :I didnt was on the phone
(11:49 am) Ed :did some of you all play the option on ISRG breaking down from triangle
(11:51 am) Ed :hey eyes thats why posting at times is good, can get nice play
(11:52 am) eyes  :i try to post what i see
(11:52 am) Ed :guess its just joey,eyes,doji and I
(11:52 am) Ed :everyone else very very quiet
(11:53 am) eyes  :ed you think it is setting up for long
(11:54 am) Ed :my preference is short side, since could not hold 490 area
(11:54 am) victor51  :See you all tomorrow
(11:54 am) Ed :also broke down as triangle had been builiding
(11:54 am) joeytsa  :great call on ISRG
(11:54 am) Ed :one can play scalp long, but agian my preference is trend side rightnow
(11:55 am) qwert  :im just watching
(11:55 am) eyes  :please draw triangle so i can see it
(11:55 am) Ed :is bruce here
(11:56 am) joeytsa  :ISRG options shot bigtime
(11:56 am) Ed :anyone else here???
(11:56 am) Ed :apple, mike, lisa, elisha, and rest of gang
(11:57 am) qwert  :im here Ed
(11:57 am) lisas  :y
(11:57 am) apple  :got to get robert, back in a bit
(11:57 am) doji  :On vacation Ed
(11:57 am) apple  :haha doji
(11:58 am) joeytsa  :stock was $580 couple weeks back
(11:58 am) Ed :ok wil show right quick what was looking at eyes mentioned it before it started moving, looked at chart and saw great setup brewing
(11:59 am) eyes  :BCO alert
(11:59 am) joeytsa  :huge triangle on daily
(12:00 pm) joeytsa  :actually most timeframes
(12:02 pm) eyes  :i only had showing 10 days thats why i asked
(12:02 pm) joeytsa  :descending triangle usually bearish
(12:02 pm) qwert  :thx Ed
(12:02 pm) joeytsa  :nice Ed,  lost yesterdays low too
(12:02 pm) apple  :thx E very helpful, got to go back before the close
(12:03 pm) joeytsa  :nice bounce on ISRG also
(12:03 pm) joeytsa  :correct
(12:05 pm) Ed :agreed apple
(12:05 pm) eyes  :thanks ED
(12:06 pm) joeytsa  :thats why you get paid the big bucks :)
(12:06 pm) lisas  :Thanks Ed. Do you have place resting orders? that dropped so quickly
(12:06 pm) Ed :yes
(12:07 pm) eyes  :no trades yet today
(12:07 pm) Ed :yes, the oco is great for that, so playing for break up/down
(12:07 pm) Ed :so once short triggered canceled the long play
(12:08 pm) joeytsa  :nice play
(12:08 pm) Ed :yea VHC was nice
(12:08 pm) elisha  :just got back - will read chat - what are thick horizontal blue lines?
(12:09 pm) joeytsa  :guessing new day?
(12:09 pm) Ed :seperation of today v. yesterday
(12:09 pm) elisha  :not vertical - the horizontal blue lines
(12:10 pm) Ed :vol beneath
(12:10 pm) elisha  :ok - thanks Ed
(12:10 pm) Ed :seperation of stock chart and vol
(12:10 pm) elisha  :thank you thank you
(12:10 pm) Ed :this is doji favorit, once u know the range, he plays the tops and bottoms of range
(12:11 pm) Ed :this is chart of apple one marked in green shows range for today
(12:13 pm) joeytsa  :and you dont have to get lost in indicator hell by using those levels
(12:14 pm) eyes  :i like it
(12:14 pm) Ed :right agreed
(12:14 pm) Ed :and just let stock play out
(12:15 pm) doji  :I use only the Stochastics for negative divergence only at most
(12:15 pm) joeytsa  :i use indis, but they do throw me off at tiems
(12:15 pm) elisha  :I've got to go back and read/cross reference this and so thanking you ahead of time for the lesson Ed
(12:15 pm) eyes  :TSLA broke triangle 15
(12:16 pm) Ed :no problem elisha
(12:16 pm) doji  :I use previous day H/L and pivot points on the 2day, 1min chart and thats works very well for me
(12:16 pm) Ed :that important factor doji, its working for you
(12:17 pm) doji  :In most cases the pivots mathces with the previous day's H/L
(12:17 pm) joeytsa  :nice doji
(12:18 pm) eyes  :MIDD
(12:18 pm) eyes  :low vol
(12:20 pm) eyes  :Well good luck to all see ya
(12:20 pm) joeytsa  :anyone signed up for the lightspeed webinar today?
(12:22 pm) eyes  :VHC alert
(12:23 pm) joeytsa  :funny eyes, i just pulled that chart up about 5 minutes ago and it was doing nothing
(12:24 pm) eyes  :no
(12:25 pm) joeytsa  :would have loved that short
(12:25 pm) Ed :yep
(12:25 pm) joeytsa  :they have had a rough day
(12:26 pm) doji  :VHC Long 25.5,,,,
(12:26 pm) doji  :using 144 ticks
(12:26 pm) doji  :stop at b/e
(12:27 pm) joeytsa  :doji is the tickmaster
(12:27 pm) joeytsa  :you should try the 143 tick and beat out the rest of those fib guys by 1 tick :)
(12:27 pm) doji  :It still looks weak
(12:28 pm) joeytsa  :how do you get tick chart on TS, never tried
(12:28 pm) joeytsa  :type T?
(12:28 pm) doji  :stopped
(12:30 pm) joeytsa  :see if it rebounds before the close, if not, might get some move tomorrow
(12:30 pm) Ed :nice insurance though doji
(12:30 pm) joeytsa  :AMZN lod
(12:32 pm) eyes  :OK good Night everyone
(12:32 pm) lisas  :joey, type number then tick
(12:32 pm) joeytsa  :VHC, another one where a strangle would have been nice..didnt know they had a ruling coming out
(12:32 pm) joeytsa  :thanks you lisa
(12:33 pm) lisas  :then after then just type the number
(12:33 pm) lisas  :if you want to switch between different ticks
(12:34 pm) joeytsa  :perfect, thanks lisa
(12:36 pm) doji  :See ya tomorrow fellas
(12:37 pm) joeytsa  :bye doji
(12:38 pm) lisas  :bye doji
(12:41 pm) Ed :thx lisa lisa
(12:43 pm) qwert  :Bye everyone cya all in the am  great calls and teaching today thx
(12:43 pm) joeytsa  :bye qwert
(12:43 pm) Ed :c ya qwert
(12:44 pm) apple  :back for the close.  thx Ed
(12:46 pm) elisha  :interesting lesson - great info - thanks Ed, everyone
(12:46 pm) Ed :no problem
(12:47 pm) elisha  :Is there a more powerful time frame for identifying shapes?  Like triangles - which frame means more?
(12:49 pm) lisas  :I think it's more about what's your time frame, how long you hold
(12:49 pm) joeytsa  :pattern time development also has to take trade time expectation into effect
(12:49 pm) joeytsa  :right lisa
(12:50 pm) lisas  :You should monitor/watch, at least one time frame higher than your trading time frame, and one time fram lower
(12:50 pm) joeytsa  :yep
(12:50 pm) elisha  :thanks lisas and joey
(12:50 pm) joeytsa  :/ES pushed over R2
(12:50 pm) lisas  :but helpful to look at the significant ones, like daily, weeklies, 60 min also, but don't over do it, or you get confused
(12:51 pm) joeytsa  :1560 overnight into tomorrow?
(12:51 pm) elisha  :i roger that
(12:51 pm) elisha  :Ed - i see you were typing - .......
(12:51 pm) Ed :I was
(12:51 pm) joeytsa  :if you are lookning at a daily triangle, its going to take at least a day to see the next move
(12:52 pm) Ed :maybe so, LOL, i forget now
(12:52 pm) joeytsa  :which means you miss the intraday move for example
(12:52 pm) elisha  :so you guys are saying match the time frame with the trade and check the perimeters
(12:53 pm) joeytsa  :not sure what the heck im saying haha
(12:53 pm) elisha  :well - thank you very much '')
(12:53 pm) joeytsa  :if the daily triangle is setting up,  it needs another daily bar for a signal..not much help intraday..so you would need to also narrow in like Lisa mentioned
(12:54 pm) elisha  :Ed - are you saying lisas and joey answered my question so well you don't need to?
(12:54 pm) Ed :yes and yes and yes
(12:54 pm) elisha  :thanks again joey and lisas
(12:55 pm) joeytsa  :no prob
(12:55 pm) elisha  :i'm writing all this down you know
(12:55 pm) joeytsa  :Thanks Mitch, Ed, Diosna, traders..hope you all have a great day
(12:55 pm) Ed :c ya joey
(12:55 pm) Ed's assistant :See you joey
(12:55 pm) elisha  :bye joey
(12:55 pm) joeytsa  :always good to take notes elisha
(12:56 pm) joeytsa  :that way you can see when i contradict something...
(12:56 pm) joeytsa  :or as i like to say, be flexible hahaha
(12:56 pm) elisha  :LOL
(12:56 pm) joeytsa  :is tomorrow triple witching?
(12:57 pm) joeytsa  :great song
(12:57 pm) elisha  :Ed - it's too late in the season for egg nog
(12:57 pm) lisas  :yes, it is
(12:57 pm) Ed ::)
(12:58 pm) elisha  :do you have frank sinatra's " out of the tree of life I picked me a plum"?
(12:59 pm) apple  :everyone have a fun evening.  see you tomorrow
(01:00 pm) elisha  :good night apple, good night everyone, have a happy evening

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