Chat Highlights From 02/06/2013

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[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching SFLY for trades both ways, first trade short
[06:30 am] Mitch K: watching GMCR drop
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching LBTYK for bottom
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watching ALLT for bottom
[06:31 am] Mitch K: watchign ARUN for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching ARUN closely
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching GPOR for bottom
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching TRIP for top
[06:32 am] Mitch K: watching VMED for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watchign ABMD for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching HAIN for top to short on rebound, taking time
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching GNW for bottom
[06:34 am] Ed : NOV
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching AFL for bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: monitoring JIVE
[06:35 am] Mitch K: really liking MCO daily chart for long swing
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching CFX for bottom
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching NOV for bottom
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching PAG for bottom
[06:37 am] Ed : RRC
[06:37 am] Ed : TRIP MONITORING
[06:37 am] Mitch K: watching GRA for top
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching SFLY for top
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching GAS for bottom
[06:38 am] Mitch K: watching HCSG for bottom
[06:39 am] Mitch K: watching ELN for bottom
[06:41 am] Mitch K: DDD bouncing
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching GRA closer
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watching CRI for bottom
[06:43 am] Mitch K: watchign MAC for top
[06:44 am] Ed : SPY new HOD
[06:46 am] Mitch K: AGN toppy
[06:46 am] Mitch K: watching DLR for top
[06:47 am] Mitch K: monitoring EXPE drop
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching GDP for more downside, prefer rebound to 12.20 first
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching CFX for bottom here, bottoming now
[06:48 am] Mitch K: name of company = Vocus
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching VOCS for bottom, dont forget this one
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching  PVH for top
[06:50 am] Mitch K: watching LRN for top
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching MCO for bottom
[06:51 am] Mitch K: watching TIVO for top
[06:52 am] Mitch K: DLR turning over
[06:52 am] Mitch K: consider selling CRI
[06:53 am] Ed : Advanced traders continue to monitor NFLX
[06:54 am] Mitch K: watching GPOR closely for selling long gradually
[06:54 am] Mitch K: DNDN moving today
[06:56 am] Mitch K: GPOR toppy
[06:59 am] Mitch K: watching DFT for bottom, slow mover
[07:00 am] Mitch K: consider selling EXPE if long
[07:01 am] Mitch K: looking to sell HAIN soon
[07:03 am] Mitch K: starting to watch HXL, lower vol
[07:04 am] Mitch K: watching BBRY for top [formlery RIMM]
[07:04 am] Mitch K: monitoring TSO
[07:07 am] Mitch K: watching BIDU for bottom
[07:08 am] Mitch K: watching CHRW for 2nd helping long
[07:08 am] Mitch K: consider reducing MCO gradually
[07:09 am] Ed : Monotoring MNST
[07:09 am] Mitch K: new high on RRC, more upside
[07:12 am] Mitch K: EXPE kicking out multiple trades today, more on the way
[07:16 am] Mitch K: next one for BIIB a long
[07:16 am] Mitch K: watching BIIB for trades both ways
[07:17 am] Mitch K: HLF spiking
[07:17 am] Ed : reducing 3/4 of NFLX long
[07:20 am] Mitch K: watching CAVM for top
[07:22 am] Mitch K: GCI finally turning over
[07:25 am] Ed : Im trailing last 1/4 right behind 20sma
[07:26 am] Mitch K: X spiking
[07:26 am] Ed : onNFLX
[07:27 am] Mitch K: watching EXPE again for bototm, 3rd bottom, all trading well longs and shorts, so far
[07:43 am] Mitch K: anyone new to the Trading Room . . . . the language I am using when looking for top means looking for a top to short.  BOttom means to buy near the bottom after it starts to turn up.  DOn't buy unless it stops going down and starts a little move up, usually thats your signal.  same with short, wait for top and stock turns over a little, then gradual entry in several orders is best
[07:45 am] Mitch K: EXPE bottoming
[07:48 am] Mitch K: watching LBTYA for bottom
[07:52 am] Ed : AAPL Ticks higher on rumors that the company could announce an expanded buyback program and dividend increase
[08:05 am] Ed : SPY new HOD
[08:39 am] Ed : SPY pullback
[09:08 am] Mitch K: watching WYNN for microshort
[09:09 am] Mitch K: never mind on WYNN idea, not enough profit potential
[09:33 am] Mitch K: EXPE spike,
[09:50 am] Ed : SPY trading in small range at highs
[10:01 am] Mitch K: microtrade long in PANL soon
[10:01 am] Ed : SPY pullinback
[10:35 am] Ed : MCO nearing hod
[10:49 am] Ed : if u took MCO short would cover some here
[11:28 am] Mitch K: watching /NG 03-13 drop, should have some bounce, maybe 10-15 ticks
[12:59 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders
[01:00 pm] Mitch K: later guys

[06:05 am] elisha  : Good Morning everyone
[06:05 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Ed, everyone
[06:05 am] joeytsa  : yeah mike /PL and /GC nice moves
[06:06 am] mikewd2 -: got some of the GC move
[06:06 am] mikewd2 -: keep moving stops too tight
[06:06 am] joeytsa  : gap down: CHRW,WYNN,SAP,LBTYK
[06:06 am] mikewd2 -: was entering short on PL at 1734 and it dropped 10 bucks
[06:06 am] joeytsa  : gap up: SFLY,BIIB,RLPNRA,CERN,TM
[06:07 am] joeytsa  : yeah 1734 had some cons
[06:08 am] joeytsa  : was happening just as i was getting booted up
[06:09 am] mikewd2 -: big sell off in CL,
[06:15 am] taco  : gm all
[06:16 am] khall  : gm traders
[06:16 am] skydiver  : gm all
[06:17 am] taco  : IB not letting traders log in , outage or something
[06:17 am] khall  : yeah, I finally got in
[06:17 am] khall  : they are having server issues
[06:17 am] elisha  : gm khall
[06:17 am] lisas  : gm all
[06:18 am] elisha  : gm lisas
[06:18 am] lisas  : Hi elisha
[06:19 am] khall  : gm elisha
[06:20 am] apple  : good morning to all smiling traders
[06:20 am] apple  : gm khall
[06:20 am] apple  : gm elisha
*** Mitch King, Welcome to the TradeStocksAmerica Live Trading Room
[06:20 am] apple  : gm taco
[06:20 am] apple  : gm sky
[06:20 am] skydiver  : gm apple
[06:21 am] apple  : gm mike
[06:21 am] khall  : gm apple
[06:21 am] apple  : gm joey
[06:21 am] mikewd2 -: hi apple, sent you new email address
[06:21 am] qwert  : gm apple
[06:21 am] joeytsa  : gm apple
[06:21 am] joeytsa  : Good morning Mitch
[06:22 am] elisha  : Good Morning Mitch and Ed
[06:22 am] apple  : gm E
[06:22 am] apple  : gm MK
[06:22 am] apple  : thx mike.
[06:22 am] apple  : qwert will send you an email later
[06:24 am] qwert  : okay i will watch for it
[06:24 am] apple  : how's laura
[06:24 am] qwert  : she is good, hurt her back a couple weeks ago but better now
[06:24 am] mikewd2 -: watching MHP, MCO for more excitement today
[06:25 am] apple  : sorry to hear that
[06:25 am] skydiver  : thnx for the reminder mike
[06:25 am] joeytsa  : hurt her back pushing the wheelbarrel with all of qwert's money :)
[06:25 am] qwert  : yeah shes good now  hahaha
[06:26 am] joeytsa  : :)
[06:26 am] mikewd2 -: DDD gap up
[06:26 am] lisas  : funny joey
[06:26 am] joeytsa  : DDD is going to do a split i read
[06:26 am] qwert  : she was sad because she missed a week at the gym
[06:26 am] mikewd2 -: nice, its a mover -
[06:27 am] mikewd2 -: both ways
[06:29 am] taco  : FIXED PHEW
[06:30 am] taco  : oops
[06:30 am] mikewd2 -: BCC IPO today boise cascades
[06:30 am] joeytsa  : watching CVS
[06:31 am] taco  : CHTR nice move
[06:31 am] mikewd2 -: ARUN
[06:32 am] apple  : NFLX on fire
[06:32 am] shark  : yeah
[06:35 am] joeytsa  : watchign GPOR
[06:36 am] joeytsa  : nice on SFLY
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : /GC moving
[06:37 am] joeytsa  : quick $6 run
[06:38 am] shark  : watching CMG at b/e
[06:41 am] skydiver  : IPO (Boise Cascade) BCC - coming up sometime this morning
[06:42 am] apple  : thx sky
[06:42 am] skydiver  : :)
[06:44 am] skydiver  : ipo BCC now open
[06:49 am] shark  : NFLX new hod
[06:49 am] mikewd2 -: hugh spreads on VOCS
[06:49 am] murano  : DNDN
[06:50 am] apple  : loving NFLX
[06:51 am] shark  : CMG new hod
[06:51 am] apple  : CMG moving nicely noff low
[06:51 am] apple  : ha shark
[06:51 am] shark  : hi apple
[06:52 am] shark  : long 315 CMG calls weekly
[06:52 am] shark  : off b/e bounce
[06:52 am] taco  : GPOR nice joey thx
[06:53 am] regatta  : CPTS
[06:53 am] joeytsa  : watching /GC here..yeah GPOR was decent..Mitch actually called it though
[06:53 am] taco  : thx mitch
[06:54 am] shark  : NFLX 180 now
[06:55 am] regatta  : CCUR
[06:56 am] shark  : CMG over R2
[06:56 am] shark  : out 1/2 NFLX long
[06:56 am] joeytsa  : nice move on CMG shark
[06:56 am] shark  : ;)
[06:56 am] apple  : me too shark
[06:57 am] shark  : SPY new hod
[06:58 am] joeytsa  : /ES to test pp res
[06:58 am] shark  : CMG moving higher
[06:58 am] shark  : watching for top
[06:59 am] apple  : CMG wow wow
[06:59 am] shark  : :)
[06:59 am] mikewd2 -: CMG to raise food prices
[06:59 am] shawn  : Anybody Short NFLX?
[07:00 am] shark  : still long, shawn
[07:00 am] shark  : out 1/2 CMG options
[07:01 am] joeytsa  : nice shark
[07:01 am] mikewd2 -: real nice shark
[07:01 am] shark  : all out CMG 315 weekly calls
[07:01 am] shark  : about 450%
[07:01 am] taco  : haha nice
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: that's alot of calls - lol
[07:02 am] apple  : me too shark -- bravo!
[07:02 am] joeytsa  : $$
[07:02 am] apple  : kaching
[07:02 am] apple  : $$$ joey
[07:02 am] shark  : :)
[07:02 am] taco  : i'm a lucky guy to be surrounded by you all
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: nice call on MCO long - mitch
[07:02 am] shark  : watching PCLN
[07:02 am] taco  : CFX working nice
[07:03 am] skydiver  : yes Mitch thnx for MCO long -- been working :)
[07:03 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL at some support
[07:03 am] apple  : i have a AAPL 445p
[07:04 am] taco  : MCO MHP nice too
[07:05 am] shark  : EXPE 70 Feb calls .70 long
[07:06 am] shark  : no more Saturday mail. end of an era
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : what will i do without a day of flyers :)
[07:06 am] skydiver  : all out of MCO L 45.68 - 47.01 (stopped out actually)
[07:06 am] joeytsa  : nice one sky
[07:06 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:07 am] elisha  : post office in Mackinaw only open 2 hours on sat anyways
[07:07 am] joeytsa  : mackinaw is only open 4 hours haha
[07:07 am] elisha  : too true haha
[07:12 am] joeytsa  : /CL up into S3 res
[07:14 am] apple  : shark you still in EXPE
[07:14 am] shark  : no, took small loss
[07:14 am] shark  : NFLX new hod
[07:15 am] apple  : NFLX c'mon 182
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : why stop at $182??  :)
[07:15 am] mikewd2 -: ARUN turnign over
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : watching EW here
[07:16 am] skydiver  : HLF - take over chatter
[07:17 am] shark  : too much prev res EXPE at b/e level
[07:18 am] shark  : NFLX vol good
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: MHP lod
[07:19 am] shark  : best trend of the year
[07:19 am] apple  : oh yeah!
[07:19 am] mikewd2 -: Herbalife active on renewed speculation Icahn may make a tender offer
[07:20 am] mikewd2 -: staying away - i lose money everytime i mess with Icahn stock
[07:20 am] shark  : he would love to put Ackman out of business and have his billions
[07:22 am] Mitch K: Mike, i find there can be a lot of truth to having difficulty trading stocks that are being manipulated by big players.  Trading action can get really odd,
[07:22 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[07:22 am] Mitch K: we know we can beat the retail investors
[07:22 am] apple  : mike, i made great money on HLF a few weeks ago
[07:23 am] shark  : BIDU nice bounce off b/e
[07:24 am] mikewd2 -: i've made good money also on HLF, but will pass now that Icahn is involved
[07:24 am] shark  : what type of sell signal we looking for on NFLX short, Ed?
[07:24 am] shark  : with lightning?
[07:24 am] shark  : looks like consolidation, still
[07:26 am] apple  : agree shark
[07:27 am] shark  : thx, apple
[07:27 am] apple  : MNST nice move off open
[07:27 am] skydiver  : 2 minuters away from dept of energy report
[07:27 am] shark  : thx, sky
[07:27 am] joeytsa  : thx sky
[07:28 am] skydiver  : :)
[07:28 am] shark  : Ed, you monitoring/trading USD/JPY?
[07:28 am] skydiver  : X - rumors - didn't hear what they were howeever
[07:28 am] mikewd2 -: U.S. Steel moves up on speculation Dan Loeb has taken a stake
[07:29 am] skydiver  : thnx Mike
[07:29 am] apple  : bot GOOG 775C
[07:30 am] shark  : I have 780 GOOG l calls
[07:31 am] apple  : nice
[07:32 am] joeytsa  : /CL still trading near S3, /ES using pp as res
[07:32 am] Ed : yes shark i always take look first thing in am
[07:33 am] shark  : had nice 3-4x bounce on pivot then move higher, Ed
[07:33 am] joeytsa  : keep eye on BA
[07:33 am] apple  : shark you are all out of CMG right?  i should have sold 1/2
[07:33 am] joeytsa  : not sure it will move, but some Dreamliner stuff goign on
[07:33 am] shark  : all out CMG, yes
[07:33 am] Ed : yes it did
[07:33 am] shark  : Dreamliner grounded, joey
[07:34 am] joeytsa  : yeah, faa report might not be out for 2 weeks
[07:34 am] shark  : they outsourced that sucker all over the world...nightmare build plan
[07:34 am] skydiver  : I went short on X at 22.79 - been slow going down
[07:34 am] joeytsa  : wasnt Boeing the plant that 0bama tried to stop from building new plant in NC?
[07:34 am] skydiver  : I think you are correct joey
[07:35 am] shark  : unions tried, not sure Obama involved
[07:35 am] joeytsa  : thought so, had to do with union vs right to work
[07:35 am] skydiver  : humm . . .
[07:35 am] shark  : yup
[07:35 am] joeytsa  : he got involved, just not sure how much
[07:35 am] shark  : i think boeing won :)
[07:36 am] shark  : NFLX testing that 34ema
[07:36 am] regatta  : watching STLD
[07:37 am] skydiver  : stopped out of X -
[07:39 am] joeytsa  : early break, see you in 20 :)  some nice moves today
[07:40 am] skydiver  : X storng - rumor might be true
[07:40 am] skydiver  : strong
[07:40 am] apple  : bye joey have fun
[07:40 am] skydiver  : take care joey
[07:41 am] skydiver  : PANL has been moving up this morning
[07:43 am] khall  : /CL moving up nicely
[07:45 am] elisha  : Thanks Mitch
[07:46 am] apple  : bot AMZN 265C
[07:48 am] lisas  : me too!
[07:48 am] qwert  : monitoring FDX
[07:48 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL trying to bounce
[07:49 am] lisas  : apple is bouncing
[07:49 am] apple  : how did you know
[07:49 am] shawn  : How high do you think Amzn can go?
[07:50 am] skydiver  : got a busy day . . decent day today  3 wins and one loss - see you tomorrow.  :)
[07:50 am] taco  : nice sky see ya
[07:51 am] Ed : c ya sky
[07:51 am] lisas  : bye sky
[07:51 am] apple  : bye sky have fun
[07:52 am] qwert  : nice call on lbtya mitch
[07:52 am] mikewd2 -: out calls on AAPL
[07:53 am] taco  : l EXPE 65.25
[07:53 am] apple  : nice one mike
[07:53 am] shark  : thx Ed
[07:55 am] mikewd2 -: nice $10 move in AAPL
[07:55 am] taco  : got 1% on 3/4 then stopped last
[07:56 am] shark  : CMG new hod
[07:56 am] apple  : CMG new hod
[07:56 am] shark  : echo, echo :)
[07:56 am] mikewd2 -: bummer got out way way too early on AAPL
[07:57 am] taco  : you're doing awesome mike
[07:57 am] apple  : next time mike
[07:57 am] mikewd2 -: could have made my week - oh well
[07:58 am] mikewd2 -: switch to puts now
[07:58 am] apple  : no mike, wait on that one it is very strong now
[07:58 am] mikewd2 -: die AAPL
[07:58 am] taco  : can change your name to oracle now apple
[07:58 am] taco  : lol
[07:59 am] apple  : haha, you are tooo funny
[07:59 am] apple  : it is heading to 466
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: /CL up $1 from lod
[07:59 am] mikewd2 -: after it bounces off 459.10 aaple
[08:00 am] apple  : let's see
[08:00 am] mikewd2 -: or not - haha
[08:01 am] mikewd2 -: ok 466 then 459
[08:01 am] shark  : over R1 res AAPL
[08:02 am] mikewd2 -: puts holding value pretty decently
[08:02 am] mikewd2 -: with that move
[08:02 am] regatta  : WNC
[08:02 am] regatta  : watching WNC
[08:04 am] mikewd2 -: you win apple!
[08:05 am] shark  : GOOG testing hod
[08:05 am] apple  : up 10K
[08:05 am] mikewd2 -: wow
[08:05 am] taco  : keep it going!
[08:05 am] lisas  : if it's real, your buying us all steak and lobster dinners!
[08:05 am] lisas  : you're
[08:06 am] apple  : it's real lisa.  no problem and some bubbly as well if you wish
[08:06 am] shark  : and the flight ticket out there :)
[08:06 am] apple  : np anytime shark
[08:06 am] shark  : ;)
[08:07 am] lisas  : way to go apple!
[08:07 am] shark  : now we just have to get joey more interested in options
[08:07 am] joeytsa  : :)
[08:07 am] apple  : he will come around
[08:08 am] taco  : tell him they are nutritious
[08:08 am] shark  : maybe his portfolio too big to trade $1.-3. options
[08:08 am] apple  : haha, you are too funny shark
[08:08 am] shark  : chomp, chomp. lol taco
[08:08 am] joeytsa  : you never know :)
[08:08 am] mikewd2 -: right taco
[08:08 am] apple  : AAPL pullback
[08:08 am] mikewd2 -: come to papa AAPL
[08:09 am] shark  : GOOG wedging at hod area
[08:10 am] elisha  : just saw your options winn post apple - congrats!
[08:11 am] elisha  : winn=win
[08:11 am] apple  : thx
[08:13 am] apple  : NFLX 200
[08:13 am] mikewd2 -: h/s setting up for AAPL
[08:13 am] shark  : have to shut down, guys. be right back...
[08:20 am] apple  : just gout of AMZN $460
[08:20 am] qwert  : wow apple awesome trading
[08:20 am] apple  : 450
[08:20 am] taco  : im liking your style
[08:20 am] taco  : any losers today apple?
[08:21 am] joeytsa  : great job apple
[08:21 am] apple  : had EXPE - dog!
[08:21 am] elisha  : apple - how long have you been trading?
[08:22 am] apple  : a few years
[08:22 am] elisha  : well, you are definately an inspiration
[08:23 am] apple  : i will send you an email
[08:23 am] elisha  : great
[08:25 am] mikewd2 -: apple, you get my new email i sent you
[08:25 am] apple  : been busy making money, have not checked, will do it now
[08:26 am] mikewd2 -: haha
[08:26 am] apple  : it's true
[08:28 am] mikewd2 -: glad all those classes are paying dividends for you
[08:29 am] apple  : right, i still owe them
[08:30 am] qwert  : monitoring BBRY
[08:30 am] scalpman  : BBRY dropping
[08:30 am] apple  : im still in BBRY from mon morning
[08:31 am] scalpman  : way to go apple
[08:31 am] qwert  : i have been in and out of the short
[08:32 am] qwert  : they have shorts at lightspeed today  :))
[08:36 am] joeytsa  : nice qwert, i saw the L, didnt bother to check
[08:37 am] qwert  : yeah i saw it to was surprised because they have not had shorts for days
[08:40 am] qwert  : shares available of JCP for short as well
[08:42 am] joeytsa  : nice pop on /CL
[08:42 am] mikewd2 -: come to papa AAPL
[08:43 am] elisha  : watching KO
[08:45 am] joeytsa  : watching HAIN here, nothing exciting
[08:46 am] mikewd2 -: /CL hod
[08:46 am] joeytsa  : real nice run there mike
[08:46 am] mikewd2 -: into some resistance here?
[08:46 am] joeytsa  : R1 just under $97
[08:47 am] joeytsa  : pp @ 96.75
[08:49 am] shark  : with 13% short interest in CMG, seems like a short squeeze
[08:51 am] joeytsa  : nice drop on HAIN
[08:51 am] joeytsa  : guess it was more exciting than i though haha
[08:51 am] mikewd2 -: CL selling off
[08:52 am] joeytsa  : /CL will be interesting on a puch thru $97
[08:53 am] elisha  : KO less exciting than I thought
[08:54 am] shark  : doji says "hi" guys
[08:55 am] shark  : says he has Ed's pinky pants, too
[08:55 am] shark  : not sure what that is all about
[08:55 am] lisas  : lol!
[08:55 am] joeytsa  : :)
[08:55 am] lisas  : I didn't see his pink pants, I said his trading room was pink, leave it Doji
[08:56 am] shark  : hmmmm.....
[08:56 am] apple  : it'salmost time for carnivale -- i think he's getting into the spirit
[08:56 am] apple  : where is he shark
[08:56 am] shark  : yeah, that must be it, apple
[08:56 am] shark  : you ready to take laptop and have a nice vacation?
[08:56 am] shark  : apple?
[08:57 am] apple  : oh, yeah
[08:58 am] shark  : ;)
[09:04 am] eyes  : see you all later on
[09:04 am] apple  : bye eyes
[09:04 am] apple  : have fun
[09:04 am] shark  : bye eyes
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : bye eys
[09:05 am] joeytsa  : eyes
[09:08 am] khall  : see ya eyes
[09:12 am] lisas  : bye eyes
[09:12 am] mikewd2 -: when does CMG earnings come out
[09:12 am] shark  : nice move on DDD, announced 3-2 split
[09:12 am] shark  : yesterday, mike
[09:12 am] shark  : they pre-announced 2 weeks ago, stock went to 265
[09:13 am] mikewd2 -: anyone know when CMG earnings come out
[09:13 am] shark  : rallied since
[09:13 am] mikewd2 -: sorry for repeat, internet hung up
[09:14 am] apple  : no mike
[09:16 am] murano  : CMG reported yesterday
[09:16 am] mikewd2 -: thanks guys
[09:16 am] murano  : Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc.'s (CMG:$322.80,00$17.79,005.83%) fourth-quarter profit rose 6.8% as the burrito chain was buoyed by improved revenue, though higher food costs continued to challenge margins.
[09:17 am] mikewd2 -: was considering puts in this area - but might not be good idea
[09:17 am] apple  : hell no, mike, it's been scrong all day
[09:18 am] mikewd2 -: so that's a maybe apple - hah
[09:18 am] shark  : you can consider a put credit spread, mike
[09:19 am] lisas  : all this talk about CMG, I'm hungry, it's lunch, taking a break. Later all
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: at some point they can't keep raising prices
[09:19 am] shark  : they aren't raising prices on menu items, mike
[09:19 am] mikewd2 -: they are here in texas
[09:19 am] shark  : analysts asking for it, though
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: just went to one last week
[09:20 am] shark  : i think that is catch up pricing
[09:20 am] mikewd2 -: could be
[09:20 am] shark  : they said they are lagging on don't want to be the 1st in restaurant sector to raise
[09:21 am] mikewd2 -: makes sense
[09:21 am] mikewd2 -: /PL short working
[09:25 am] apple  : up 15
[09:27 am] shark  : which one, apple?
[09:28 am] apple  : 15K
[09:28 am] shark  : ;)
[09:30 am] joeytsa  : nice going apple
[09:30 am] apple  : thx joey
[09:30 am] elisha  : holy cow apple
[09:30 am] mikewd2 -: dang, we will be flying first class to new york for our steak and lobster.
[09:31 am] apple  : it will be a party!
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: PANL still trending up
[09:31 am] qwert  : woohoo im ready for NYC
[09:31 am] joeytsa  : and flying back on med-alert with heart disease and mercury poisoning :)
[09:31 am] mikewd2 -: earn more apple so we can go to a show also!
[09:31 am] qwert  : hahahaha
[09:32 am] mikewd2 -: haha
[09:32 am] qwert  : heard book of mormon is good
[09:32 am] apple  : haha, you got it... np
[09:33 am] khall  : it's hilarious but irreverent
[09:33 am] khall  : so don't go see it if you are easily offended
[09:34 am] apple  : who?
[09:35 am] joeytsa  : see you all for the final 60-90 minutes
[09:35 am] elisha  : bye joey
[09:35 am] shark  : bye joey
[09:35 am] qwert  : PANL moving
[09:35 am] khall  : later joey
[09:36 am] apple  : buy joey have fun
[09:36 am] apple  : thx qwert
[09:39 am] murano  : PANL  big volume on take over speculation, over 3.3 million shares today.
[09:39 am] qwert  : thx murano
[09:39 am] apple  : thx murano
[09:42 am] apple  : bot PANL 34C
[09:42 am] murano  : Volume on PANL 1.4 million shares today
[09:50 am] lisas  : shark?
[09:51 am] shark  : yes....
[09:51 am] shark  : oh, yeah?
[09:51 am] lisas  : yep
[09:52 am] shark  : you too funny!
[09:56 am] mikewd2 -: closed AAPL puts
[09:56 am] shark  : why?
[09:57 am] mikewd2 -: need to take a break
[09:57 am] mikewd2 -: there is the 459.10 i called
[09:57 am] shark  : nice call, mike
[09:57 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, but apple won on the 466 haha
[09:57 am] apple  : haha
[09:58 am] apple  : you were going in the right direction and it's stil dropping
[09:58 am] shark  : AAPL broke thru pivot
[09:59 am] regatta  : i spy with my little eye the SPY is falling
[09:59 am] mikewd2 -: not with complete candle yet on my chart
[09:59 am] mikewd2 -: not alot of vol on this fall
[10:02 am] shark  : price is truth
[10:02 am] shark  : vol looks good on AAPL short
[10:03 am] shark  : watching at b/e
[10:05 am] mikewd2 -: /PL hod
[10:06 am] regatta  : jive
[10:06 am] regatta  : JIVE
[10:06 am] shark  : nice regatta
[10:06 am] regatta  : TKS
[10:06 am] candelas  : good eye regatta
[10:06 am] regatta  : tks
[10:10 am] candelas  : nice calls apple/mike on AAPL long/short
[10:11 am] shark  : great call, mike. still have 455 weekly puts
[10:13 am] mikewd2 -: they were 460 puts
[10:13 am] mikewd2 -: now switched to calls
[10:13 am] shark  : 1/2 out AAPL puts l
[10:14 am] mikewd2 -: also out NFLX 185 puts
[10:14 am] shark  : all out AAPL puts l
[10:14 am] mikewd2 -: nice shark
[10:15 am] shark  : :)
[10:15 am] candelas  : nice trading shark
[10:17 am] apple  : nice job mike and shark - just bot APPL 460C
[10:17 am] shark  : SPY bounce
[10:17 am] shark  : lightning worked great on AAPL short
[10:18 am] mikewd2 -: fyi: WTI and Brent hightest spread in a while, this is good for TSO, VLO refineries
[10:18 am] mikewd2 -: as that spread starts to move closer, look for selloff
[10:20 am] shark  : good to know, mike
[10:21 am] lisas  : thanks Mike
[10:22 am] apple  : yes, thx mike
[10:23 am] mikewd2 -: MCO
[10:24 am] mikewd2 -: alert fired over 47 but was already at 47.4
[10:29 am] mikewd2 -: Apple you using stops on your calls/puts?
[10:29 am] apple  : yes
[10:30 am] shark  : you trading opx on tos, apple?
[10:31 am] apple  : yes,
[10:31 am] shark  : you have hotkeys setup?
[10:31 am] shark  : for options?
[10:31 am] apple  : no
[10:32 am] shark  : hmmm....
[10:36 am] lisas  : sounds like a tutorial shark
[10:37 am] shark  : :)
[10:37 am] apple  : i could use one
[10:41 am] qwert  : nice rejection of 48.50 on MCO
[10:47 am] Ed : nice play qwert
[10:47 am] shark  : good job, qwert
[10:48 am] apple  : qwert goog
[10:48 am] apple  : good
[10:48 am] qwert  : hahaha no its goog
[10:54 am] murano  : ESV
[10:56 am] regatta  : watching SPN
[10:56 am] mikewd2 -: news on ESV? a great oil company
[10:57 am] apple  : nice move on /CL this morning
[11:06 am] shark  : you go long ESV, mike?
[11:07 am] qwert  : im long on ESV shark are you
[11:08 am] shark  : missed it
[11:08 am] qwert  : nice v pattern so far
[11:08 am] shark  : BBRY best day ever launch in canada
[11:10 am] joeytsa  : RL nice pullbak last hour or so
[11:11 am] apple  : shark, i have been in it since monday
[11:16 am] shark  : nice trend find, apple :)
[11:19 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL trying  to go higher
[11:19 am] joeytsa  : /PL nice cycles today
[11:22 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, hit a couple of them joey
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : according to CBO, 7M Americans to lose health coverage due to 0care
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : yeah mike, i knew you had the 1734 shrt..nice
[11:22 am] joeytsa  : the long right after was nice too
[11:23 am] mikewd2 -: been shorting on the tops
[11:23 am] joeytsa  : good job, looks like a slower uptrend overall though
[11:23 am] shark  : Chipotle ceo said most employees likely to opt-out
[11:23 am] shark  : don't see significant impact to earnings
[11:25 am] apple  : when is it, shark
[11:25 am] joeytsa  : CMG was yesterday?
[11:26 am] Ed : nice call shark on ESV
[11:26 am] qwert  : yes thx for ESV
[11:27 am] mikewd2 -: ESV was ok, got stopped on that dip
[11:27 am] mikewd2 -: but still ok
[11:28 am] apple  : oh, right, i am not thinking clearly
[11:28 am] joeytsa  : best thing about earnings..they come every 3 months :)
[11:29 am] qwert  : watching CHRW
[11:29 am] joeytsa  : thx Mitch, didnt even have /NG up today
[11:29 am] mikewd2 -: i was lookiing for short below 3.413
[11:30 am] joeytsa  : rut roh..your computer is at risk :)
[11:31 am] Ed : uhh ohh
[11:31 am] joeytsa  : i hate when i get that message
[11:32 am] Ed : mee 3
[11:32 am] joeytsa  : you like the 1min on futures?
[11:34 am] Ed : depends on movement
[11:34 am] Ed : if its slow will use 1min
[11:35 am] joeytsa  : ok, makes sense
[11:38 am] qwert  : joey or ed how far do you have to be in a futures trade before you move your stop to b/e
[11:38 am] joeytsa  : not sure i understand the question?
[11:39 am] joeytsa  : do you mean me personally
[11:39 am] mikewd2 -: that's a hard thing to figure out qwert - i'm still playing with it
[11:39 am] mikewd2 -: you move to early you get stopped
[11:40 am] qwert  : if you go long at 3.419 on NG how much higher would it have to go before you would move your stop to buy point
[11:40 am] joeytsa  : yeah, for a long, i try to keep stop just under last set of lows
[11:40 am] joeytsa  : depends on your overall target,  but i have my atm to go to break even after 10ticks profit
[11:40 am] eyes  : Just a thought if you are willing to risk say 20 tick how about once its 21 ticks profit move to =1 for break even
[11:40 am] joeytsa  : but sometimes i override it
[11:41 am] eyes  : +1
[11:41 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, +1 tick to cover commissions
[11:41 am] eyes  : how much is your stop Joey
[11:42 am] joeytsa  : good point eyes, it kind of depends on your risk level
[11:42 am] qwert  : just curious seems im to anxious at times and end up out at b/e
[11:42 am] joeytsa  : anywhere from 4 or 8 ticks on ES,  5-20 on everything else
[11:43 am] joeytsa  : but my trading problem is that i do change it based on gut feel..so sometimes i get stopped when i dont want to haha
[11:43 am] joeytsa  : couple times got so excited, i dragged my stop to where it was trading and it stopped me "_
[11:43 am] qwert  : yeah for some reason my gut keeps telling me to move stop to fast  hahaha
[11:44 am] qwert  : i have done that
[11:44 am] joeytsa  : it does take practice..thats where sim trading is great
[11:45 am] qwert  : its wierd im very calm trading stocks but get antsy with the futures
[11:45 am] joeytsa  : and i find futures to be more methodical
[11:46 am] eyes  : well if it makes you feel better i had it long at 95.14 took profits to soon because i was stoped out first try so when I got a few ticks i took it to try to recoupe first stop
[11:46 am] eyes  : thats been my problem
[11:46 am] joeytsa  : the cool thing with futures to me is that you can get really quick scalps in
[11:46 am] mikewd2 -: ESV still slowly cycling up
[11:47 am] qwert  : thats when i have done the best on fast moves
[11:47 am] mikewd2 -: AAPL piercing thru the down trend line
[11:47 am] joeytsa  : lots of time i lower my r/r to 1:1 on futures..rarely do that with stocks
[11:47 am] joeytsa  : qwert: you can also try having to charts up of the same instrument...
[11:48 am] joeytsa  : use a longer one for trend/setups and a shorter one for entry to scalp a few ticks here and there..like on the /ES for example
[11:48 am] joeytsa  : two not to  :)
[11:48 am] qwert  : okay thx for the advice
[11:49 am] joeytsa  : just for example a 5min chart and an 89 tick
[11:49 am] joeytsa  : not saying use those, just using them as an example
[11:49 am] qwert  : is that what you use for ES
[11:50 am] joeytsa  : been switching a bit..right now i am using a 578 and 340
[11:51 am] joeytsa  : used to follow a 2584 for long term, but dont anymore..not sure why i stopped
[11:51 am] joeytsa  : on my 340 i also have a 4ma and bb for trend on that timeframe
[11:52 am] qwert  : okay thx will look at it
[11:52 am] joeytsa  : honestly though, you can drive yourself crazy trying every combination out there
[11:53 am] qwert  : i have not been trading ES mostly just CL and NG  so didnt have a setup for the ES
[11:53 am] joeytsa  : but the idea of longer term setting with shorter term setting and Lightning signals..at least gives decent entry points
[11:54 am] joeytsa  : /ES has its moments haha
[11:54 am] skydiver  : all out of ESV long - 61.91 - 62.34  thnx to whoever called it
[11:54 am] joeytsa  : you can do the same setups with /CL or anything really
[11:55 am] skydiver  : back to my phone call . . and watching stocks
[11:55 am] qwert  : do you use BB on your CL setup
[11:56 am] joeytsa  : no, just my 340T on ES and another chart that i rotate NG,YM,SI,TF and any other contracts that arent in my regular watch
[11:57 am] qwert  : okay thx
[11:57 am] joeytsa  : like /YM..i used to use 700T for overall trend, then take entries on the 144T
[11:58 am] joeytsa  : so roughly, my longer term chart was 5x longer than my shorter term chart
[11:58 am] qwert  : my experience with futures is very small
[11:59 am] joeytsa  : mine too, i just used fib #'s to decide on which tick charts to use..except the 700
[11:59 am] Ed : you will find the setups are the same, just depending on instrument it just moves faster
[11:59 am] Ed : so like a fast moving option but with tighter spread
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : right, great advantage with LIghtning is the audio
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : so you dont have to stare constantly at a chart
[12:00 pm] joeytsa  : really nice call on ESV
[12:01 pm] joeytsa  : /ES getting some buying
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: AAPL can't seem to push past 459.2
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: there she goes
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: just got to ask
[12:02 pm] lisas  : Thanks for asking them Mike
[12:02 pm] lisas  : then
[12:02 pm] joeytsa  : MCO trying to bottom?
[12:08 pm] joeytsa  : huge storm heading you you guys in the northeast
[12:08 pm] joeytsa  : 1-2 feet of snow potential
[12:09 pm] taco  : cant wait
[12:09 pm] joeytsa  : tighten stop on MCO if long
[12:09 pm] mikewd2 -: excellent play joey, that guy moved to fast
[12:09 pm] apple  : shush, joey, i like the 1-2 inch dust that i can just push away
[12:09 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, got crappy fill haha
[12:10 pm] joeytsa  : apple, looks like 2 storms are converging
[12:10 pm] apple  : me no want to shovel -- will hire
[12:11 pm] mikewd2 -: you can buy a snow plow apple
[12:11 pm] joeytsa  : apple: always smart to hire someone to do stuff that isnt worth your time
[12:11 pm] apple  : i know.  i know.  wanted my son to help me though and learn to take care of things
[12:12 pm] taco  : you can afford to hire joey even
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : teach him to hire people to do that hahah
[12:12 pm] taco  : haha
[12:12 pm] mikewd2 -: i bet he would with a snow plow!
[12:12 pm] joeytsa  : haha taco
[12:12 pm] mikewd2 -: shark will you close out your AAPL calls this afternoon? or hold
[12:13 pm] apple  : okay joey, haha.
[12:13 pm] apple  : there goes AAPL again
[12:13 pm] joeytsa  : see if /ES can hold this pp support
[12:18 pm] murano  : See ya'll tomorrow
[12:18 pm] joeytsa  : bye murano, have a great day
[12:18 pm] taco  : bye murano
[12:19 pm] Ed : c ya murano
[12:20 pm] apple  : bye murano
[12:21 pm] joeytsa  : saw a call earlisr today from some analyst, cant remember who, calling for s&p 1575 and then a 50% correction
[12:21 pm] joeytsa  : some of these guys remind me of the lowlifes touting horses as you get to the track
[12:22 pm] mikewd2 -: PANL
[12:22 pm] joeytsa  : NFLX testing $185 now
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: nice $1 move in PANL
[12:24 pm] mikewd2 -: quick
[12:25 pm] joeytsa  : TRLG
[12:25 pm] joeytsa  : lower vol, had decent spike down
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: NG moved - glad i closed my short b/e
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch,Ed, everyone..have a great day, see you tomorrow
[12:30 pm] taco  : c ya joey
[12:30 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:30 pm] lisas  : bye joey
[12:30 pm] qwert  : bye joey
[12:34 pm] eyes  : Good Night everyone
[12:34 pm] Ed : c ya eyes
[12:34 pm] qwert  : cya eyes
[12:35 pm] taco  : bye eyes
[12:35 pm] apple  : good night eyes
[12:36 pm] jimjllsail  : Ed, Mitch  Thanks Guys
[12:36 pm] Ed : glad to have you jiim
[12:37 pm] taco  : bye jim
[12:37 pm] apple  : bye jimj
[12:37 pm] qwert  : cya jimi
[12:38 pm] apple  : qwert sent the email
[12:40 pm] qwert  : thx apple
[12:41 pm] apple  : bot GMCR 52.5C
[12:43 pm] taco  : when apple?
[12:44 pm] apple  : about 2:00
[12:59 pm] shark  : thx, Ed! :)
[12:59 pm] apple  : good nite, E, have a wonderful evening
[12:59 pm] taco  : thanks Mitch, Ed and all see you monjana
[01:00 pm] qwert  : good night everybody  cya all in the am
[01:00 pm] shark  : bye taco, qwert...
[01:00 pm] shark  : stay tuned for GMCR earnings
[01:00 pm] shark  : up 6%
[01:00 pm] shark  : that was quick
[01:00 pm] apple  : i am shark -- need to pick up robt in a few minutes
[01:01 pm] apple  : good night MK
[01:01 pm] shark  : nice, apple
[01:01 pm] Mitch K: apple, dont spend much time counting your money, bad for your mindset
[01:01 pm] lisas  : Thanks Mitch!
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: bye lisa lisa
[01:02 pm] apple  : haha, but i am having the best time.  i hear ya!
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: sounds like pizza pizza
[01:02 pm] qwert  : goodnight Mitch
[01:02 pm] shark  : lol
[01:02 pm] lisas  : Pizza sound so good
[01:02 pm] lisas  : not good for me though
[01:02 pm] Mitch K: trust the old Chinese man, counting money puts you in wrong frame of mind, sort of lose your edge and tend to get a little over confident
[01:02 pm] shark  : hey, joey might be listening lisa
[01:02 pm] lisas  : no, he left I hope!
[01:03 pm] shark  : haha
[01:03 pm] Mitch K: but i know that has never happened to any of you right?
[01:03 pm] shark  : you chinese and japanese, Mitch?
[01:03 pm] apple  : i will hire someone to count it for me, hows that?
[01:03 pm] qwert  : hahaha
[01:03 pm] Mitch K: right, i got a better idea apple
[01:03 pm] apple  : haha
[01:04 pm] shark  : down 9% now
[01:04 pm] Mitch K: seriously, hire a young gamer kid and put him on a computer and just stick him on a bunch of LIghtning charts and teach him to look and call out ideas for you
[01:04 pm] shark  : real bipolar some of these stock analyst/traders
[01:04 pm] apple  : haha, now that i am making lots of money, i can consider it
[01:05 pm] Mitch K: oh by the way, pay him minimum wage, have him sign a non disclosure agreement
[01:05 pm] apple  : now you know, right?
[01:05 pm] Mitch K: he will be happy to have a job and they really like anything related to computer programs

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